Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2: Final Hour in this Thursday. You have to have your
Speaker 2: brackets in by now if you want to be in
Speaker 2: the Bracket Challenge at Foxsports Radio dot Com. A lot
Speaker 2: of luminaries, a lot of celebrities are involved. Fritzie had
Speaker 2: a couple of no's which were surprising to Fritzie. Fritzi's
Speaker 2: always surprised when somebody says no to him. I would
Speaker 2: figure you'd be used to that. Your wife says that
Speaker 2: on a daily basis. Wow.
Speaker 3: True, though I can't argue that.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: But is it rude when I say what's your problem?
Speaker 5: When they say I'm not gonna be able to do
Speaker 5: that or I'm not really a bracket kind of guy
Speaker 5: or gal, and then I say, what's your problem?
Speaker 3: It just takes it for a minute.
Speaker 2: Okay, who bothered you by saying no?
Speaker 3: I was surprised Steve Levy wouldn't do it. And I
Speaker 3: love Steve.
Speaker 5: I know him back from the beginning of early nineties
Speaker 5: at f AN. I thought for sure he'd do one.
Speaker 5: But he was one of those I'm not a bracket guy,
Speaker 5: but thanks for asking.
Speaker 3: Very polite.
Speaker 2: He's a hockey guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's sports at a anchor. He knows enough
Speaker 5: about all sports. Is not just a hockey guy, and
Speaker 5: a lot of we all just guess anyway, you don't have.
Speaker 5: None of us are experts in college basketball, so it
Speaker 5: doesn't matter what sport you're focused.
Speaker 3: On in life.
Speaker 2: Why did Nick write pass soft?
Speaker 3: I don't think he responded at all.
Speaker 5: So some of them, some of the ones that didn't
Speaker 5: send one either didn't respond at all. A few of
Speaker 5: them said, I just said it's not my thing, or
Speaker 5: if I have time, I'll see what I can do.
Speaker 6: Are we getting to where Nick Wright only responds to you?
Speaker 7: Dan?
Speaker 8: Hm?
Speaker 6: He might be doing that move now. You guys are
Speaker 6: like that close that he's like. I don't really go
Speaker 6: through Todd. If Dan asked me, I.
Speaker 3: Didn't give him a watch or anything. I didn't take
Speaker 3: Hi out to dinner.
Speaker 2: So maybe Yeah, Alex Ovechkin is in. Adam Sandler's in again.
Speaker 2: No for Will Ferrell, what happened.
Speaker 3: I think Chrissy was busy or something like that.
Speaker 2: Busy.
Speaker 5: I got another one that was surprising, But there must
Speaker 5: be a reason why he just couldn't get it.
Speaker 2: Takes five minutes. You're better than that, Brian Cranston's back
Speaker 2: in again, Josh Dumel, Dreamy Josh Dumel, Jim Parsons, Rebecca Lowe,
Speaker 2: from NBC's coverage of the Premier League, Joey Vado, George
Speaker 2: Bretts involved no response from Jennifer Lawrence.
Speaker 3: That hurt a lot.
Speaker 5: I didn't want to bring that one up, but thought
Speaker 5: I'll get at least a polite no thank you, because
Speaker 5: if we've reached out to some big time movie stars
Speaker 5: and the publicist will get around to saying, you know,
Speaker 5: thanks for thinking of him or her, but that's not
Speaker 5: their thing, but their you know, filming in Europe somewhere,
Speaker 5: and they just can't get it done.
Speaker 2: Rob Low, no with Rob Low, Paul Rudd Snoop Dogg,
Speaker 2: ice Cube. They all said no to you.
Speaker 8: J J.
Speaker 2: Watt said no. Maybe if Paulie had reached out then
Speaker 2: he would have said, sure, I will for you again.
Speaker 5: A lot of them were, you know, no response as
Speaker 5: opposed to I don't want to do it or I
Speaker 5: can't be bothered.
Speaker 2: Uh. Carissa Thompson, not even a response.
Speaker 3: Hurt feelings.
Speaker 2: They're gone on. Saquon Barkley, all the things. All we've
Speaker 2: done for Saquon Barkley and he can't fill out a bracket. Wow,
Speaker 2: Nick Wright, Don maddingly Drew Breese.
Speaker 3: This is where we have to shame everybody that we're
Speaker 3: invited in our participating.
Speaker 2: That's what happens, That's what we're doing right now, Todd,
Speaker 2: I know Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick didn't even respond.
Speaker 5: We saw something the other day on the X on
Speaker 5: the Twitter whatever the kids are calling it these days, saying, hey,
Speaker 5: you know any cool bracket challenges I can get into?
Speaker 5: And we reached out to North Carolina Sports Information. They
Speaker 5: said they'd run.
Speaker 3: It by him, but did not get a chill.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's busy on the beach. Maybe he's doing whatever
Speaker 2: he was doing on the beach with his girlfriend. Maybe
Speaker 2: she could have filled out a bracket. Yeah, we should
Speaker 2: have asked. His partner has to go through, right, Why
Speaker 2: didn't you ask her?
Speaker 3: How's mistake? Everything goes through.
Speaker 2: Our She has to be surprised you wouldn't go through
Speaker 2: the woman to get to the man.
Speaker 3: Hearepoint, all right.
Speaker 2: I don't see any local news anchors, nobody from NBC News.
Speaker 2: There's usually a reporter in there, maybe a weather forecaster.
Speaker 5: Shout out Alssa, Ray Tagli and Hard the Frank Rachel,
Speaker 5: Frank Xer Fox just blew it.
Speaker 4: I don't even know her name.
Speaker 8: You blew it?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I watch a lot of Fox sixty one Connecticut.
Speaker 2: Dang, yeah, you do watch. I don't think you listen,
Speaker 2: but you do watch.
Speaker 3: I know I have no idea what the news is
Speaker 3: or what weather's coming.
Speaker 2: But uh, how often do you hear back from these
Speaker 2: people you reach out to? Have you heard back from
Speaker 2: these women?
Speaker 3: It's really hit or miss. It's really a coin flip.
Speaker 3: But you make the effort and see what happens.
Speaker 2: Alpine skiing legend Lindsay Vaughn goes to Sun Valley, Idaho
Speaker 2: the Steefel Sun Valley Finals Saturday and Sunday one East
Speaker 2: And have you reached out to Lindsay Vaughn? Did you
Speaker 2: read it? Reach out to Lindsay.
Speaker 5: We did invite Linda von She wasn't able to join us,
Speaker 5: but maybe at at a later date.
Speaker 3: But we did ask her at.
Speaker 2: A later date like this, like a later date like
Speaker 2: around the Sweet sixteen. She's going to join us in
Speaker 2: philadel Bruh somewhere.
Speaker 3: Between the Sweet six and the Elite eight.
Speaker 5: I thought you meant in general, you meant for the
Speaker 5: specific for the bracketchise where you're not invited for the
Speaker 5: Bank of Challenge.
Speaker 3: We invited to be a guest on the show.
Speaker 2: All right, final hour of the program coming up. The
Speaker 2: Celtics have been sold for over six billion dollars. I
Speaker 2: don't know what that means for the Celtics other than
Speaker 2: somebody had that kind of money and decided to buy
Speaker 2: the Celtics. I knew that they were up for sale,
Speaker 2: at least a portion or up was up for sale.
Speaker 2: But the Boston Celtics for over six billion dollars? Is
Speaker 2: that the highest price for a North American team? Six?
Speaker 2: Now I'm not talking about the value, but what somebody
Speaker 2: paid for a a franchise, because it felt like the
Speaker 2: Washington Commanders were tops on that list. But they blew
Speaker 2: by that with because that was around four and a
Speaker 2: half billion maybe, and the Celtics going for a little
Speaker 2: over six billion dollars.
Speaker 9: Yes, the Washington Commanders recently went for just a tick
Speaker 9: over six billion. So this supposedly beats that. The prices
Speaker 9: have really drastically gone up in the past fifteen years.
Speaker 9: For example, the Dodgers in twenty twelve were two billion,
Speaker 9: which seems like a drastic bargain.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah wow, yeah, yeah, Well they certainly put the
Speaker 2: money back into that franchise, that's for sure, all right.
Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three DP show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com,
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Speaker 2: on today and tonight. Xavier advances. They were down thirteen.
Speaker 2: They advanced. Mount Saint Mary's beats American Houston, Auburn, Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Saint John's among the teams that will be in action
Speaker 2: later on today. And today I was watching Luka Doncic
Speaker 2: and the Lakers. They beat the Nuggets. The Nuggets sat
Speaker 2: out Jamal Murray and the Joker. Luca had twenty one
Speaker 2: of his thirty one in the first quarter. Lakers had
Speaker 2: forty six in the first quarter. Paulie brought this up
Speaker 2: a while ago when Lebron James got hurt, and he said,
Speaker 2: I think this is a good thing because this will
Speaker 2: allow Lebron to be able to sit out. It's a
Speaker 2: good thing that he'll be able to rest. Now you
Speaker 2: can hopefully hold on to your playoff spot or not
Speaker 2: fall too far down or get into the play in situation.
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden. A couple analysts said yesterday
Speaker 2: that you know, this could be a good thing for
Speaker 2: the Lakers because Lebron will be resting. You have players
Speaker 2: who are sitting down now, you have jokers been sitting out.
Speaker 2: Jamal Murray's been sitting out the Thunder. I think sat
Speaker 2: out just about every one of their starters in a
Speaker 2: game last night or the day before. But you're going
Speaker 2: to get this load management where I don't think you're
Speaker 2: going to raise suspicion with the NBA where the Lakers
Speaker 2: are going to get fined that you know, Lebron hasn't
Speaker 2: been back, but this could be great. This could be
Speaker 2: something that he gets rested healthy. Err And you just
Speaker 2: hope that this doesn't come back once you get to
Speaker 2: the playoffs. But the Lakers, you know it's about seating.
Speaker 2: But if you're the Lakers, can you stay in the
Speaker 2: top four, I'd say, you know that's your sweet spot here. Yes,
Speaker 2: Marvin Well.
Speaker 4: They're only saying that now about Lebron because they won
Speaker 4: three straight games. But when they lost the previous three, I.
Speaker 2: Was like, yeah, he better get back.
Speaker 4: You better get back sooner than later. But it seems
Speaker 4: easier when you lose when you went through straight games.
Speaker 2: But also what this does it allows other players like
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves Dalton Connect. Like now you're saying you take
Speaker 2: on more of a load that that's what you want,
Speaker 2: because when you get into the postseason, you may be
Speaker 2: relying on them to be your third score, your second score,
Speaker 2: and to be able to get those You know, all
Speaker 2: you want to do is be able to show get
Speaker 2: me the ball. Austin Reeves shows that he can get
Speaker 2: thirty points, Dalton Connect can get twenty points. That's what
Speaker 2: you want. You want the threat of that guy. If
Speaker 2: all else fails, or somebody gets injured, somebody gets in
Speaker 2: foul trouble, they can help you. They can step up.
Speaker 2: Great teams have that player or players who when they
Speaker 2: get a chance, they step like Derek White. You give
Speaker 2: him an opportunity. He's not the first option or the
Speaker 2: second option, but he can step up in a big way.
Speaker 4: Yes, Mark, every single playoffs, there's got to be a
Speaker 4: guy where it's like Bruce Brown, where do you go
Speaker 4: to college? You gotta have a guy like that that
Speaker 4: has a big game for in the Western Conference Finals
Speaker 4: that you never heard of until Game four. The Western
Speaker 4: Conference finals.
Speaker 2: Gabe Vincent, you know where you're saying, who is this guy?
Speaker 2: You know the Spurs always had that, They're always it
Speaker 2: felt like there was a guy who was going to
Speaker 2: be able to come in and give you some some
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Speaker 2: We talked a lot about North Carolina. Do they deserve
Speaker 2: to be in? I think you got to look at
Speaker 2: the name on the front of the jersey. I do
Speaker 2: think that factor's in. I think it factors in in
Speaker 2: this sport, this time of the year, and probably played
Speaker 2: a little bit of a role in this. I have
Speaker 2: a source, an NC DOUBLEA source not with the NC
Speaker 2: double A who sent a note to me this morning.
Speaker 2: I have no dog in the fight, but North Carolina's
Speaker 2: inclusion in this year's field is, by a large margin,
Speaker 2: the most inappropriate single decision in decades of the selection process.
Speaker 2: He goes on to say that yes, North Carolina can
Speaker 2: compete in the tournament, but that has nothing to do
Speaker 2: with the committee. The committee has to look at what
Speaker 2: North Carolina has done, not what they can do. He
Speaker 2: goes on to say, Tuesday night's result doesn't demonstrate North
Speaker 2: Carolina should have been included in any way. Of course
Speaker 2: they can compete, perhaps get on a role. Goes on
Speaker 2: to say, there's no logical base which North Carolina should
Speaker 2: be in this year's field. My source goes on to say,
Speaker 2: on the basis of the criteria and the process, North
Speaker 2: Carolina it should not have been in the field. And
Speaker 2: the committee's confusing messages and failure to adhere to the
Speaker 2: plan and process that it crafts and agrees to follow
Speaker 2: will set scheduling in college basketball and how schools respond
Speaker 2: back several years. So that's a powerful statement here that
Speaker 2: it's the most inappropriate single decision in decades of the
Speaker 2: selection process. So that's a source that I have with
Speaker 2: college athletics. But North Carolina may go on a role.
Speaker 2: Jim Beheim yesterday loves North Carolina. It's kind of a
Speaker 2: dark orse sleeper team. I get it. And it's not
Speaker 2: to say they don't have talent. And yes, losing two
Speaker 2: of your last three games to Duke, and they lost
Speaker 2: their other game was to Clemson, a team in the tournament.
Speaker 2: But if they got blown out by Duke, by twenty one.
Speaker 2: I don't think they get in the tournament. They came
Speaker 2: back and they had a chain still win, that's it.
Speaker 2: If they get blown out, there'd be no way you
Speaker 2: could put them in the tournament. Do I think that
Speaker 2: the head of the committee, who is the athletic director
Speaker 2: at North Carolina was playing favorites here. Well, I'm sure
Speaker 2: he wants to get his school in. But just because
Speaker 2: he got a one hundred thousand dollars bonus for North
Speaker 2: Carolina getting in, I don't think you risk your reputation,
Speaker 2: your job to go, Hey, I'd love to get one
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars, We'll get North Carolina in. I mean,
Speaker 2: you don't want to take away the credibility of the
Speaker 2: committee that you oversee. I just I don't think the
Speaker 2: committee stayed with what their process was. So but I
Speaker 2: couldn't care less If Carolina is in, great, If they're
Speaker 2: not in, I couldn't care less.
Speaker 9: Yes, point, I have a theory about this with the
Speaker 9: College Basketball Playoffs, the NCATE Tournament committee that just happened
Speaker 9: with North Carolina and going back to remember last year,
Speaker 9: last year, last year with Flora stake Itt and Hose
Speaker 9: and the college Football Playoff Committee. I think these committees think,
Speaker 9: you know what, if we do this, we're gonna get
Speaker 9: ripped for a couple of days. We're gonna get lit
Speaker 9: up for a couple of days and critique. But it
Speaker 9: provides content, even argument content, And no one in that
Speaker 9: room is getting rid of the head of the nca
Speaker 9: Basketball Committee or the College FOOTBA Committe because they're all
Speaker 9: in it together. You know, they're all getting paid, they're
Speaker 9: going on trips, they're all doing these things. And if
Speaker 9: they themselves, we'll take the heat for a few days.
Speaker 9: But putting UNC in as opposed to putting in a
Speaker 9: more deserving team, that doesn't help anybody in this room
Speaker 9: and all our friends who got us here.
Speaker 2: I would be shocked if that was their logic. Oh,
Speaker 2: I'd be shocked.
Speaker 9: But they know going into that room that UNC was
Speaker 9: not worthy based off resume to make it, and they
Speaker 9: put them in any way, And so I think their
Speaker 9: logic is, you know what, batton down the hatches.
Speaker 2: We're doing this. I don't know how many people are going, Oh,
Speaker 2: I gotta watch North Carolina if this was the college
Speaker 2: football playoffs, I understand that where you go, Hey, we
Speaker 2: got Florida State or Notre Dame, and you will lean
Speaker 2: towards Notre Dame because it's Notre Dame and they're going
Speaker 2: to be give you a bigger rate. This is at
Speaker 2: the bottom. This is at the bottom of the barrel
Speaker 2: of teams getting in. I don't think you want to
Speaker 2: risk anything where you gotta get How do we get
Speaker 2: Carolina in? I don't know. We come up with some
Speaker 2: metrics here, we disavowant a knowledge of these other metrics.
Speaker 2: I just I can't imagine. I would love to have
Speaker 2: a reporter who's in there to listen to this and
Speaker 2: help us understand what goes on.
Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, but isn't that a tradition every year that
Speaker 4: somebody's gonna complain that they didn't get to the tournament
Speaker 4: because there's about seven eight other teams that have basically
Speaker 4: the same resume. You guys all got thirteen fourteen lawsuits,
Speaker 4: So it's the same thing every year anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Indiana, Ohio State, they can have an argument here, yeah, seton. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean it's a TV show, right, and North Carolina
Speaker 6: is a brand, so you're gonna put in your strongest brands.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's that. I get that you might
Speaker 2: factor that in. It just can't be the we have
Speaker 2: to somehow get if it was Duke, that's different. There's
Speaker 2: only a couple of schools where you go teams are
Speaker 2: you know, people are going to watch those teams play,
Speaker 2: either to watch them win or watch them lose. Carolina's
Speaker 2: not polarizing.
Speaker 4: Yes, is North Carolina not on that list of teams.
Speaker 4: They're not up there with the UCLA's, the Kentucky's, the Dukes.
Speaker 2: Well, they are, they have been.
Speaker 4: They looked at it.
Speaker 2: Indiana, Indiana was up there too. I mean they become
Speaker 2: a football school. But do you go out of your
Speaker 2: way to put North Carolina in? Out of your way?
Speaker 4: No, okay, it's not like they went over a team
Speaker 4: that went twenty three and nine.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think anybody got jobbed here. I don't
Speaker 2: think North Carolina deserve to be in. But if you
Speaker 2: put him in, Okay, if you put Indiana in, if
Speaker 2: you're not firing Indiana's head coach, does he get in?
Speaker 2: Do they get in because Mike Woodson got fired?
Speaker 4: Don't know?
Speaker 2: Now, Ohio State, Boise State, there are other schools that
Speaker 2: can make an argument. But I mean Ohio State, Indiana
Speaker 2: aren't the blue blood that Carolina is. Indiana used to be.
Speaker 2: Ohio State has been sporadic there, But I am I
Speaker 2: would be shocked if the committee would be like, let's
Speaker 2: somehow get Carolina in. I would poll question for the
Speaker 2: final hour of the program is going to be watched.
Speaker 2: Seaton o' connor is going to be hot. Let me
Speaker 2: see what I just put up there. We had this
Speaker 2: one from Paul. If you had the funds, you would
Speaker 2: buy a basketball team, baseball team, football team, hockey team.
Speaker 2: I threw in a soccer team because that's what I do.
Speaker 2: Of course you do. Yeah, I'm taking I'm going to
Speaker 2: take soccer off of it because it feels like, aren't
Speaker 2: they worth more money? Some of these are their soccer
Speaker 2: teams worth more than the Cowboys.
Speaker 9: It's a similar neighborhood like else I think was five
Speaker 9: point three billion when they sold, so very similar neighborhood
Speaker 9: to NBA and NFL team.
Speaker 6: But I don't know if it necessarily like like I
Speaker 6: would even buy a cheap soccer team, like well cheap,
Speaker 6: you know, relatively whatever I would. I was taking it
Speaker 6: more as what sport would you like to own a team?
Speaker 6: In not what team are you going to make the
Speaker 6: most money off of?
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I would do NFL. It still feels like
Speaker 2: when you walk into a room and your owner of
Speaker 2: We tend to know the owners of NFL teams a
Speaker 2: little bit more than we do in other sports.
Speaker 9: Yeah, pull, I think I go Major League Baseball. I'd
Speaker 9: like to spend more time outside eighty plus home games.
Speaker 2: No, it's way too many games to go to. But
Speaker 2: you have to go to all these games? Do you
Speaker 2: have to go to all those games?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well it helps, But like football, all right, I got
Speaker 2: seventeen games to go to. I'm pretty good with that.
Speaker 9: But in football, I think as an owner, I don't
Speaker 9: know if you could sit in a seat outside with
Speaker 9: the civilians, I don't. I have never seen a own
Speaker 9: to do so.
Speaker 2: I'd rather sit in a suite. But they do have
Speaker 2: those suites that have the indoor outdoor. That's the least
Speaker 2: of my worries. Baseball. Can you imagine being the Oakland
Speaker 2: A's owner and going to eighty one of those games
Speaker 2: and you're just going, oh, this is death. Like if
Speaker 2: you're the Yankees of the Dodgers ownership, I mean you're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit right there behind a home plate. This
Speaker 2: is great, but I think I'd rather own an NFL team.
Speaker 5: Yes, Todd, I fact, the GM has to be there
Speaker 5: as much as possible. But the owner can we win
Speaker 5: at that? He's out in his yacht, he's paying all
Speaker 5: the bills. Is you need to be seen as much
Speaker 5: as possible, especially for a season that's got eighty one
Speaker 5: home games.
Speaker 2: Possibly, if you're an NFL owner, you're there.
Speaker 3: That's not a well, you have no excuse because there's
Speaker 3: hardly any games.
Speaker 2: All you have to do is show up for the
Speaker 2: home games and then show up for a playoff game.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk some more basketball. More phone calls
Speaker 2: coming up, take a break back after this.
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Speaker 2: That's Cavino and Rich. Boston Celtics sold for just over
Speaker 2: six billion dollars if you go back to the last
Speaker 2: time they were purchased two thousand and two, three hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty million dollars. That's a nice return on your investment.
Speaker 2: Nice return on your investment. All right, we'll get to
Speaker 2: more phone calls coming up. He's one of the great
Speaker 2: basketball minds that I know. He is Dan Dickow who
Speaker 2: joins us on the program. Oh, No, it's Dan. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's Dockage. Oh. Dan Dockage a former college coach. He
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Speaker 8: On dick Out Dreams of having my hair, Dreams of It.
Speaker 2: Good to have you on your reaction to the committee
Speaker 2: putting North Carolina in the tournament? How egregious is this?
Speaker 2: Or is it to you?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 10: I think it was ridiculous, And I think I like
Speaker 10: Bubba Cunningham. I've known him since he was at Ball State. No,
Speaker 10: I was in Bowling Green, and I've always thought twelve
Speaker 10: of it. But you can't have in your contract, you know.
Speaker 10: Some say you got one hundred and four thousand, some
Speaker 10: say you got sixty seven. I don't care. You can't
Speaker 10: have that in your contract. A hint of impropriety is ridiculous.
Speaker 10: And the other thing is, you know, Dan, they put
Speaker 10: all these metrics in. Okay, that's fine, And you know,
Speaker 10: I know mathematicians. I got three friends that are mathematicians
Speaker 10: math teachers, and they're like, you can make math go anyway.
Speaker 8: You won. I didn't think Carolina.
Speaker 10: Should be in for the simple reason who did they
Speaker 10: be over the course of a season. I don't think
Speaker 10: Indiana should have been in the same reason. But I
Speaker 10: do think that it has to get straightened out where
Speaker 10: guys have bonuses for their schools to be in the tournament.
Speaker 8: I think that's just wrong.
Speaker 10: It reeks of well, oh, frankly, it it's nefarious.
Speaker 8: Don't tell me you weren't in the room. Don't. Don't
Speaker 8: treat us like children.
Speaker 10: You were talking to them at dinner, you would have
Speaker 10: drinks whatever at the coffee shop.
Speaker 8: Don't don't.
Speaker 10: Don't treat us like children. We know how this works.
Speaker 10: And I just think you know, whether you want to
Speaker 10: put him in or not.
Speaker 8: Great. You know, they played wonderful. R. J.
Speaker 10: Davis made threes, but you know, you should never have
Speaker 10: a bonus for being the head of a chair getting
Speaker 10: your team, and that's just that's bad business.
Speaker 2: But they knew that there was going to be blowback, right,
Speaker 2: you can't be in that committee and go, boy, how's
Speaker 2: this going to look? But then you just say maybe
Speaker 2: we just survived the first couple of days.
Speaker 10: That Dan, that's exactly we all know, right. You know
Speaker 10: I always said this when I was in ESPN. Dan
Speaker 10: Brackett was going to come out, Billis was going to
Speaker 10: complain about the CD, Dick Fettel was going to complain
Speaker 10: that the little guy didn't get in right, and that'll
Speaker 10: last for twenty four forty eight hours.
Speaker 8: And then we moved along and.
Speaker 10: We had maybe the greatest game of the tournament, the
Speaker 10: first game with Alabama's. But that's how you gotta be.
Speaker 10: You're in the public. You know, things come, they go,
Speaker 10: they blow over, and you move it along in the
Speaker 10: game start and it's what's Bill to say? It's idiot proof?
Speaker 10: And oh is that true? It's just a great tournament
Speaker 10: every year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you start to look at this and then
Speaker 2: Jim Beheim last year said on our show they should
Speaker 2: expand it to ninety six teams, Like, how many is
Speaker 2: too many?
Speaker 10: Dan, Dan, I've always said this, and tell me if
Speaker 10: you think this is wrong, but I've always said, everybody
Speaker 10: is in the NCAA tournament like you have a conference tournament,
Speaker 10: you win, you stay in. Like I get it, CBS
Speaker 10: or whomever. They do their thing, and great, but everybody's
Speaker 10: already in. I have no I don't care expand it. Dan,
Speaker 10: I'm at an age where I love the games, I
Speaker 10: love the sport. Give me morees. Fine, but I've said,
Speaker 10: I've said this, everybody's in a tournament, and I think
Speaker 10: Vegas should determine the bracket. Take Vegas, take the human
Speaker 10: air out of it, give your parameters, give your policies,
Speaker 10: give it all of those guys in the desert, as
Speaker 10: Brent would say, and let's figure this out. Let them
Speaker 10: do it unbiased. And then we got a bracket and
Speaker 10: we moved along. Those are the two things I've always said.
Speaker 10: Everyone's already in the tournament. You got a conference tournament,
Speaker 10: you got a chance, don't lose, and you keep playing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been saying the last couple of years, let's
Speaker 2: just take it out of a committee. Let's do it
Speaker 2: with the people who it's all about the bottom line,
Speaker 2: all the money that's made with march madness. Let Vegas
Speaker 2: figure this out. I did think of you yesterday. We
Speaker 2: were talking about how Georgetown had to fire Patrick Ewing,
Speaker 2: Saint John's had to fire Chris mallin Houston, fired Clyde Drexler.
Speaker 2: Steve Alford has never been offered the Indiana John. Is
Speaker 2: that correct? And if so, why not.
Speaker 8: There's a weird thing.
Speaker 10: Quinn Buckner this time is ahead of the board of
Speaker 10: Trustees and he's got some weird and this is true.
Speaker 10: I mean, nobody had missed this, but I know this
Speaker 10: Night told me this. He's got some daddy thing with
Speaker 10: Knight and Alford. It's a really weird thing. Dan, and
Speaker 10: the previous guy, the ad uh and Buckner's ahead of
Speaker 10: the board of Trustees. The previous guy, Rick green Span
Speaker 10: the Electric didn't like Alford. He was in Illinois state.
Speaker 10: They had some kind of hassle. Dan, I've never understood it.
Speaker 2: I've said it expand, so Quinn Buckner's daddy issue with
Speaker 2: Bob Knight and therefore doesn't want Steve Alford.
Speaker 10: I've never been able and I've asked Steve, and that's
Speaker 10: all I've ever You know, it's just a weird thing
Speaker 10: where Buckner's jealous of the relationship or and you know,
Speaker 10: nobody will admit it, but I've heard this for so
Speaker 10: many years.
Speaker 8: And Buckner again he's ahead.
Speaker 10: Look, whether it's true or not, I bet you know
Speaker 10: I always say gun to head, gun to head.
Speaker 8: I think it's true as hell.
Speaker 10: Buckner and Woodson were boys when Knight was first in Indiana.
Speaker 8: He kind of legally cheated.
Speaker 10: He got Woody and I think Buckner, I know Scott
Speaker 10: May involved with a guy named Steve Ferguson, one of
Speaker 10: the richest guys. They bought all the hotel or they
Speaker 10: bought all the apartments in Bloomington.
Speaker 8: Alfred wasn't a part of that.
Speaker 10: It's just a it's a ridiculous, idiotic, stupid, desperate housewives
Speaker 10: kind of a program that hopefully now we got a
Speaker 10: decent dude in there that can coach some ball. West
Speaker 10: Virginia fans, you can suck it. I love that you're mad.
Speaker 10: Go away, Indiana got a good dude, Let's go.
Speaker 2: He's Dan Dakiche, host of Don't At Me podcast on OutKick.
Speaker 2: He played for Bob Knight in Indiana. You coached with him.
Speaker 2: Was there any joy when you played for Bob Knight?
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 10: I always say it was fun, and the fun was
Speaker 10: when you got his approval. The fun was how big
Speaker 10: the program was, how revered you were. But you know,
Speaker 10: Dan Fife and I always talk about this as white
Speaker 10: dudes that aren't very fast. Everybody thinks they're better than you,
Speaker 10: Like everybody that was third team All conference in their
Speaker 10: little conference, you know, couldn't wait to play in the hyper.
Speaker 10: But playing basketball in Indiana, I don't know if it
Speaker 10: was fun.
Speaker 8: I don't know. Is that the same as joy?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 10: I had a blast. I liked when he got crazy.
Speaker 10: I loved watching his eyebrows grow. Randy Whitman told me
Speaker 10: that he'll yell, his eyebrows will grow.
Speaker 8: But I loved everything about it. I love the place. Yeah, no,
Speaker 8: it was.
Speaker 2: I will tell you to scare you. Did night?
Speaker 8: Scare you scare me? No, not at all. Make you question.
Speaker 10: Everything about yourself? Yes, like could you play? Like could
Speaker 10: you think? Like?
Speaker 8: He would ask me Dan.
Speaker 10: He would go, hey, Doccas, you're either too dumb to
Speaker 10: understand this or you don't listen to me. And I'm like, man, hey, coach,
Speaker 10: I listened to every word you said. I'm just stupid,
Speaker 10: like just a moron coach, you know. But no, he
Speaker 10: made you question if you were working hard enough. He
Speaker 10: made you question, and you know I can't. He's like
Speaker 10: my dad. My dad was the principal in Gary, Indiana
Speaker 10: High School principal. He was he was like my dad,
Speaker 10: and I loved it.
Speaker 2: Is Rick Pattino a feel good story?
Speaker 10: I think it's a yeah. I like redemption. I like
Speaker 10: the fact that Rick Patino humbled himself. He went to Greece.
Speaker 10: You know, it's funny. I was talking to some coaches
Speaker 10: about him going to Greece and winning that league. Dan,
Speaker 10: that league is a big time, big time lead. He
Speaker 10: won that thing twice, and I remember thinking, I don't care.
Speaker 10: You know, I don't care the backstory. I think Rick
Speaker 10: Patino I would have hired him in a second.
Speaker 8: And Dan. The other thing is, I wish Louisville would
Speaker 8: do this.
Speaker 10: I wish Louisville would say, screw you, we're putting the
Speaker 10: banner from thirteen backup. N Cuba is feckless right now, Dan,
Speaker 10: And well, okay, get mad at us.
Speaker 8: Good for you. I don't I don't care. I really
Speaker 8: wish they would do that.
Speaker 2: Would you do that if you're Michigan?
Speaker 10: Yeah, Final four maybe a little different. And those guys
Speaker 10: held whoever allegedly was going to jail if the Martin
Speaker 10: guy didn't die. You know, for a lot that got
Speaker 10: a little bit what's the right, I got a little
Speaker 10: bit too much in the courts for me.
Speaker 8: But I think I would. Now, you know, I.
Speaker 10: Haven't thought about it. I'm just thinking about that for
Speaker 10: the first time. Yeah, I think I probably would. I
Speaker 10: think i'd say, look, these games were played, we won them.
Speaker 10: You know, I like it. It's like I used to
Speaker 10: tell my kids, Dan, you're mad at me. Really, I
Speaker 10: still tell them, you're mad at me. Go stand over
Speaker 10: there in the corner and be mad and let me
Speaker 10: know when you're not mad anymore and come back. That's yeah,
Speaker 10: I would. Yeah, I would put those banners up at Michigan.
Speaker 10: I certainly would do it. A Louisville absolutely.
Speaker 2: Sneaky team that you like in the tournament.
Speaker 10: You know, it's funny. Everybody likes Drake, and I love
Speaker 10: Drake's coach. But I saw today seventy one percent of
Speaker 10: the money is bet on Drake. That tells me bet
Speaker 10: against Drake. Every time the you know, the public goes
Speaker 10: on someone, I go gainst. I will tell your team
Speaker 10: I'm fascinated by and Dan that's Wisconsin. You know Dan
Speaker 10: with my trico. When I used to do this when
Speaker 10: we were broadcast. We wouldn't look at the line until
Speaker 10: game time, and then I would ask him, Mike, what's
Speaker 10: the over under? And he was really good, like he
Speaker 10: would you know, I think he cheated, but he would
Speaker 10: nail it. But with Wisconsin, the over under was always
Speaker 10: like one twenty something, right, one one eighteen.
Speaker 8: They can get in the eighties, they can get high seventies.
Speaker 10: I'm fascinated because Dan, they have switched their entire operation.
Speaker 10: I mean when you and I were in co Dan,
Speaker 10: we went in my time in Indiana seventeen years. We
Speaker 10: went for sixteen years. We went thirty one and one
Speaker 10: against Wisconsin. And so they got Dick Bennett. They went
Speaker 10: a different way. Now they're going to up and down.
Speaker 10: I'm fascinated to see how they do. And I'll tell
Speaker 10: you what I like Kentucky. I don't know why I
Speaker 10: got them going to the final four. D I just
Speaker 10: I like their team. I'm not mad at their path.
Speaker 8: I just do. And you know one of the sleeper
Speaker 8: teams that I like.
Speaker 10: I'm anxious to see what High Point does today against Purdue.
Speaker 10: And I'll tell you why. I've never seen a guy
Speaker 10: used more than Brayden Smith is used at Purdue. Like Dan,
Speaker 10: they don't have a second ball handler. Kid's a first
Speaker 10: team All American. He's asked to do everything, and I
Speaker 10: mean everything, and I thought, I'm not.
Speaker 8: You know, I'm one of those guys. A shut up,
Speaker 8: put some dirt on it. Let's go.
Speaker 10: I don't want to hear about you being tired. But Dan, dude,
Speaker 10: legitimately should be wore out. And I'm anxious. High Point
Speaker 10: gets up and down. They can score. They got a
Speaker 10: good coach. I'm looking forward to that game. I'm looking
Speaker 10: forward to Creighton and Louisville. Louisville got job, Creighton got job.
Speaker 10: Eight nine game my ass, Yeah, I know that'll be just.
Speaker 10: You know, Creighton's got a lot of things that you
Speaker 10: need to advance in the tournament.
Speaker 2: I'll leave you with this. Your days is a player,
Speaker 2: as a coach, as an assistant coach. The best performance
Speaker 2: you ever saw by a player was turned in by who.
Speaker 10: Calbert Cheney against Louisville in the NCAA Tournament.
Speaker 8: Dwayne Morton. Dwayne Morton was really good back then and Calvert.
Speaker 10: He said something to Calbert, I don't know if this
Speaker 10: is the best, but Calvert was a player of the
Speaker 10: Year Morton said something and Calvert just went stupid.
Speaker 8: You know what I mean?
Speaker 10: Dan, Like, Calvert was the nicest guy in America, easiest
Speaker 10: guy in the history of basketball to coach every day.
Speaker 10: And I never saw this until this guy, Dwayne Morton
Speaker 10: came at him and Dan, it was like guys talking
Speaker 10: about Michael Jordan when you said something to him. He
Speaker 10: had an electricity. It was in the regional I think
Speaker 10: it was in the sweet sixteen, maybe ninety three. He
Speaker 10: dunked on him, got face to face, and I'm sitting
Speaker 10: there going, wait a second, here, hang on, baby, that's
Speaker 10: pretty damn good.
Speaker 8: Shack. We beat Shack.
Speaker 10: He made all twelve of his free throws in ninety
Speaker 10: two his last game, true story.
Speaker 8: He had thirty six and made all of his free throws.
Speaker 10: And I told Matt and over the guy that guarded him,
Speaker 10: I said, Mat, I've never said this about a dude
Speaker 10: that got thirty six on you.
Speaker 8: But that's a hell of a defensive performance. Brother.
Speaker 2: What was the performance better than your performance against Michael Jordan.
Speaker 10: Nothing will ever surpass that, Dan, nothing in the history
Speaker 10: of basketball.
Speaker 2: You've been dining out on that for decades, that you
Speaker 2: held Jordan under twenty.
Speaker 10: Hell Jordan under ten I found he got four more.
Speaker 10: He ended up with thirteen. I was a little pissed
Speaker 10: about that thing.
Speaker 8: Kick.
Speaker 2: Did you say anything to him at all during that?
Speaker 2: I mean, he wasn't Michael Jordan then they were playing
Speaker 2: him in college, but didn't know he's still there. That
Speaker 2: you were, you know, you could get him fired up.
Speaker 8: No, you know, Dan, I.
Speaker 10: Don't know if you remember this, but Orlando Woolridge and
Speaker 10: Notre Dame beat Virginia and Ralph Samson and I was
Speaker 10: at the game, and Orlando Woolridge said, I didn't say
Speaker 10: a word to Ralph. I just stayed behind him and
Speaker 10: next to him, didn't say a word. And I thought
Speaker 10: about that, and I did that during that game. I
Speaker 10: didn't say a word. But if he was back, you know,
Speaker 10: somebody shooting free throws and he was at half court,
Speaker 10: I stood next to him. If he was on the
Speaker 10: free throw line, I stood down. I just I don't
Speaker 10: know why I did, though. Dan, we played golf that summer.
Speaker 10: I beat him out of sixth grand and I talked
Speaker 10: a lot of hish that night. Dan, I'm not gonna
Speaker 10: lie to you. I told him I'll play it for
Speaker 10: any dime you want. I'll play for everything you want
Speaker 10: because you suck and I'm good and I'm gonna kick
Speaker 10: the living audio And he owed me six grand by
Speaker 10: the end of the day, and of course, being Michael Jordan,
Speaker 10: he never paid, but eight out.
Speaker 8: It's a good story.
Speaker 2: Keep started up. Great to talk to you as always, Bud.
Speaker 8: Thanks brother, See you at.
Speaker 2: Dan Dakich the host of Don't At Me podcast on OutKick.
Speaker 2: I loved him on games. I thought it was one
Speaker 2: of the best basketball analysts that I had ever heard.
Speaker 2: He was great at dissecting a game. And if you're
Speaker 2: learning the game while you're in the locker room with
Speaker 2: Bob Knight as an assistant coach and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: Dockach was really good. I miss him on the Foxes. Well,
Speaker 2: he was on ESPN, but the coverage of college basketball, well,
Speaker 2: take a break, Last call for phone calls, What we learn,
Speaker 2: What's in store tomorrow?
Speaker 1: Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition
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Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls? What we learn This day
Speaker 2: in sports history? Basketball getting ready to start in less
Speaker 2: than fifteen minutes. What are the games coming up at noon?
Speaker 2: And does anybody have a crazy final four team in
Speaker 2: their bracket? Marvin, I'll start with you. Anything crazy in
Speaker 2: your final four as you pull out your bracket.
Speaker 4: I have Michigan, Saint John's, Alabama and Tennessee Michigan.
Speaker 2: I do riding off that big big ten tournament champ victory.
Speaker 4: That's right. Got my favorite not Yukon player, Danny Wolf.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you do love Danny Wolf. Danny Wolf
Speaker 2: looks like he would play for Yukon, doesn't he?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: For sure, he definitely be on the Cream team.
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Speaker 2: Maybe you saw him, yeah tournament? Oh that's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's like six', ten but he's, good he's. ACTIVE. Pauli
Speaker 2: anything crazy in your final?
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Speaker 3: and twos in these.
Speaker 2: Things, yeah, Uh, seatan what about?
Speaker 6: You my final four Is, Auburn, Alabama, Houston. YUKON i
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Speaker 9: owners oh, no this is not a good. One nineteen eighty,
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Speaker 2: Friday have a great, day, everybody