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<v Speaker 2>This week is a full week of Premier Commander's contact.

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<v Speaker 2>On Monday, Julie had a one on one interview with

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<v Speaker 2>him Terry McLaurin. Tomorrow Wednesday is Command Center and we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking Phase three running backs, wide receiver and Fred, you

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<v Speaker 2>keep getting fired up. I'm always fired, always fired up.

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday eight to the nine has his takes, Santana little

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<v Speaker 2>teas what we.

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<v Speaker 3>Got speaking of Terry were talking a little bit about

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<v Speaker 3>do why I receive this?

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't help myself. I gotta always be in

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<v Speaker 2>the comments section of our YouTube page. You do I

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<v Speaker 2>live there? You do live there and see all your questions.

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<v Speaker 2>And on Friday I want to engage with you and

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<v Speaker 2>answer as many questions as I can. We got something

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<v Speaker 2>for you all week. Be sure to check it out

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<v Speaker 2>on YouTube. Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan

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<v Speaker 2>Paulson here with Fred Spoot and Santana Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Say you guys doing that's my name, that's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>You're doing all right?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing. I'm always good.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the weekend man I had.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a crazy weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>Started off with some very good golfing on the Eastern

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<v Speaker 5>Shores with all of the old school guys, and I

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<v Speaker 5>got it. Speaking of wide receivers, I got into a

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<v Speaker 5>trash talking section with Gary Clark, Ricky Sanders, you know

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<v Speaker 5>the posse, and they threw something at me. They said,

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<v Speaker 5>do you think your rookie year defensive backfield could have

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<v Speaker 5>stopped us? And my rookie year defensive backfield was me,

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<v Speaker 5>Champ Bailey and Darryl Green versus Ricky Sanders, Gary Clark and.

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<v Speaker 4>Even my three guys.

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<v Speaker 6>We go mine to mine.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't want that, I want it all.

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<v Speaker 3>But see you gotta think too that that those years

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<v Speaker 3>that Gary Clark and all Monk was special. They was

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<v Speaker 3>up there in the tops with Jed Rice and all

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<v Speaker 3>the other guys. At times I was looking at the

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<v Speaker 3>All Madden team. You were seeing Gary Clark right underneath

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<v Speaker 3>Jed Rice.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know, there's a lot of smoke, man,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a lot of smoke.

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<v Speaker 5>We got two we got two yellow jackets on that side.

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<v Speaker 5>They got one yellow jacket on nail.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the age difference between the two guys, like

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<v Speaker 2>when did they play when you played.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, we're looking at fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 4>And how much change, how much of the game change.

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<v Speaker 5>And Coach Gibbs in that office that they had with

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<v Speaker 5>the posse, plus what the Houston Oilers was doing down

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<v Speaker 5>there with one moon and Buffalo spreading the ball out.

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<v Speaker 5>They were the first teams to really push the ball

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<v Speaker 5>down the field and also still run the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>So they was anomaly at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, me and Fred came in around the time when

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<v Speaker 3>a dinosaur is still roamed, so you the game wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>changed as much much as you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>We were still able to get hitting them out. We

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<v Speaker 3>were still able to get tugged on, you know, some

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<v Speaker 3>of the same things that you saw. Those guys you

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<v Speaker 3>know have to go through, uh doing their years.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't know Fred, Fred'd be talking.

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<v Speaker 3>Man't want to get in front of I would have

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<v Speaker 3>got in front of arg money.

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<v Speaker 6>Tell me what you want to Let.

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<v Speaker 2>It happy, all right? So talk about wide receivers. Ye,

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<v Speaker 2>our guy Devanta Adams came out with his receiver ranking

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<v Speaker 2>and not surprisingly he's the number one on that lists.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not man on that I'm not man, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's got a legitimate argument to be a number

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<v Speaker 2>receiver in the he.

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<v Speaker 6>Is a basketball player and a football players.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he does an excellent job. But followed by Justin

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<v Speaker 2>Jefferson two, A Tyreek Hill to be, Stefan Diggs a

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<v Speaker 2>little surprising here, Calvin Ridley at four and then at

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<v Speaker 2>five Mike Evans as the A and at B C

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<v Speaker 2>D Lamb. So what are our thoughts on this list?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I love the list.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not surprised by any guy who's saying that they're

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<v Speaker 3>they're the best out of all these guys. But one

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<v Speaker 3>of the things that you know, we talked about before

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<v Speaker 3>we got on most receivers, and I know, especially the

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<v Speaker 3>ones that know the game, they're not picking guys off

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<v Speaker 3>of the seasons they had. They're picking guys that they know.

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<v Speaker 3>You can put this guy anywhere on the field with

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<v Speaker 3>any team and he gonna give you work.

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<v Speaker 4>And you can give him any quarterback and he gonna

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<v Speaker 4>give you work.

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<v Speaker 3>DeVante Adams he stands tall on that list mainly because

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<v Speaker 3>what the last what five years he got over six

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<v Speaker 3>thousand something yards when he was considered the best, he

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<v Speaker 3>had Aaron Rodgers. Then he topped that last year and

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<v Speaker 3>went and played with car and show he can do

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's what I look for. You know, I was the.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy that had to play with a lot of different

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<v Speaker 3>wide receivers, I mean the different quarterbacks and receivers that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if you want to throw that out there,

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<v Speaker 3>But you couldn't look at the film and say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>he dropped off here or there because I gave you

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<v Speaker 3>the business. And now I might not got the attempts

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<v Speaker 3>under these guys get in these days, but when you

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<v Speaker 3>gave me the opportunity, I was gonna go out there

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<v Speaker 3>and show you the same stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 3>He's basically giving these other guys credit for that did

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<v Speaker 3>type of wire receivers.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing I wanted to ask you ten is

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<v Speaker 2>like Davontae Adams is a like a route running technician.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent releases, excellent at the top of routes, excellent at

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<v Speaker 2>that intermediate area, kind of throwing false keys in there.

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<v Speaker 2>And he picked guys i'd say that kind of do

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing as him. Right, They're very similar. They're

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<v Speaker 2>very technically kind of proficient as route runners. You know

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<v Speaker 2>when you were when you were making lists, when you

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<v Speaker 2>were checking guys out, did you look for guys that

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<v Speaker 2>reminded you of yourself and things that you valued in

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<v Speaker 2>the game, or was it just kind of like game

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<v Speaker 2>recognized game.

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<v Speaker 4>Game recognized game.

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<v Speaker 3>I was one of those guys that, man, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>probably even gonna give myself the noad most of the time,

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna give the other guy to naw but

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<v Speaker 3>just knowing I was confident in what I can do,

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<v Speaker 3>I was just praying that I can have the same

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<v Speaker 3>kind of quarterback or or consistency from that position.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, uh, Tyreek Hill might.

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<v Speaker 3>Not be a guy like him, but he's twitched up

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<v Speaker 3>his bad shoot in so many different ways, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So I like this list.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the only guy I would probably question it

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<v Speaker 3>is Calvin Ridley because I haven't seen enough of him.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I watched the little simple size of him,

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<v Speaker 3>he was two guys I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>When I played with him in Atlanta, though he's very

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<v Speaker 2>DeVante Adams ask very twitched up short area understands routes

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<v Speaker 2>at a high level. So I can see when I

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<v Speaker 2>like Devant Adam, says I like him. It's because he

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<v Speaker 2>does things well, he values.

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<v Speaker 5>But if I got a rank him, I can't rank

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<v Speaker 5>a guy that hasn't played in the calendar in half.

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<v Speaker 5>I just can't especially which guys that's out here putting

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<v Speaker 5>in work consistently. If I look at this top five list,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a couple of guys, Cavin Ridley being one of them,

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<v Speaker 5>A ranked.

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<v Speaker 4>Extremely too high, and Lamb like.

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<v Speaker 5>Ceedee, Lamb is truly They don't play him on the

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<v Speaker 5>outside no more. They can't play him primarily at slot,

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<v Speaker 5>and he has problems separating like nobody wants to talk

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<v Speaker 5>about that.

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<v Speaker 6>Now he can contested plug catches, that's his thing.

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<v Speaker 4>He can make it.

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<v Speaker 5>But I gotta put Terry in this group because I'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna tell you what makes Terry special to me.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a dB.

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<v Speaker 5>If I got to study Terry, he doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 5>defineding trade.

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm studying.

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<v Speaker 6>Santana Mouse, he's defining the trade.

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<v Speaker 4>Is he's gonna run away from you?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Terry does what he needs to beat you in

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<v Speaker 5>that circumstance, in that situation, if he needs to click

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<v Speaker 5>on the speed he wheeled, if he needs to out

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<v Speaker 5>jump you, he wheeled. He makes it to the point

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<v Speaker 5>as a cornerback, you can't take your study into trying

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<v Speaker 5>to play him.

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<v Speaker 4>You just got to play him man the man.

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<v Speaker 5>Mono you mono, and try to make sure your body

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<v Speaker 5>is in the right position, because if you do take

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<v Speaker 5>your your study, he'll use that against you.

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<v Speaker 2>But definitely not this type of guy though Terry. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Terry's not. He's better than Cdland know, but I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>he's not. He doesn't have the same traits, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously this is a very specific type of receiver

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<v Speaker 2>that he's looking for, and I think that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the reasons he's probably excluded from this.

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<v Speaker 4>Adam's number one on that list. If you ask me, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I like him.

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<v Speaker 5>Tybreek Hill is the most dangerous motion hereus whipping in sports,

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah he is.

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<v Speaker 3>But he just like when it comes to receivers, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to give him the knock because he is a

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<v Speaker 3>receiver you can put he can be that that same

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<v Speaker 3>caliber of danger. You know, when it comes to playing

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<v Speaker 3>any position on the field. You put him in the

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<v Speaker 3>backfield and you'll be like, he's the best running back

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<v Speaker 3>that we got in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>When he came in as a running back, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's crazy to think about it. And so of these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>smooth is there, who are you least excited to cover?

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<v Speaker 5>Tar receivers don't bother me, So Evans don't worry about

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<v Speaker 5>the city. Lamb can't get down to feel as fast

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<v Speaker 5>as people think he is. Tyreek Hill is the most

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<v Speaker 5>dangerous weapon on here. He's the one that you go

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<v Speaker 5>home and have nightmares about because you know you're one

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<v Speaker 5>bad step away from.

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<v Speaker 4>Him, from you not even being in the screens.

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<v Speaker 5>If you watch his highlights, he's the only person in

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<v Speaker 5>the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>How does he compare to a guy like Randy Moss?

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<v Speaker 2>You know guy that.

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<v Speaker 5>Very similar everym it's just one tall in one short

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<v Speaker 5>on you like body frames are different, but how they

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<v Speaker 5>attack you vertically, It's like these the type guy to say,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what, I'm gonna run twelve routes today, ten

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<v Speaker 5>of them gonna be gold routes.

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<v Speaker 6>We know they go routes and still cannot keep up with.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you prep for a guy like Randy Moss? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think people you know, they see fast guys,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's a different bugga.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I looked like had Greg Williams when we played

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<v Speaker 5>against Randy and Greg used to tell us he's not

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<v Speaker 5>running slants.

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<v Speaker 6>They out started to play Slantsony's game.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm taking you out to gather like this guy is

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<v Speaker 5>gonna run go route and post. Be ready to play

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<v Speaker 5>go route and post. Anything short. I'll make sure the

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<v Speaker 5>linebackers take care. So's you have to game playing as

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<v Speaker 5>a group of geinst Randy.

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<v Speaker 6>You can't.

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<v Speaker 5>Randy is not the type guy you say here, Deon Sanders,

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<v Speaker 5>go take Randy out the game.

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<v Speaker 6>Let it be over. Brandy was never that type dude.

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<v Speaker 6>You would have to game play.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thing that's so special about the game too.

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<v Speaker 3>People fail to realize is that DB's don't neces necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>have to go out there and be man the man

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<v Speaker 3>all day With guys like that, your defense should be

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<v Speaker 3>able to say, you know what, play what he's mostly

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<v Speaker 3>through at, and we're gonna handle the rest.

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<v Speaker 4>And that you do to a Randy Moss or Tyreek Hill.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, this is one of those guys that you gotta

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<v Speaker 3>know he's gonna take the top off. Yeah, but he

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<v Speaker 3>also one of them guys you can get him the

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<v Speaker 3>ball on the phone book, a phone boot and Henna,

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<v Speaker 3>he gonna get missing. So on the screen, you just

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<v Speaker 3>got to make sure that everybody's hunting. But when you're playing,

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<v Speaker 3>when you checking them, don't leave no guy out there

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<v Speaker 3>in one on one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, And so ten, I guess, are there any

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<v Speaker 2>is there anybody on this list that you're surprising on

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<v Speaker 2>that I know? Fred said Terry, and I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>all like, you know, I understand it based the type

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<v Speaker 2>of guy that he's looking for, but I'm a little

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<v Speaker 2>surprised to anybody that you'res.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, Kevin. Really, now, I understand when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to rating guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm never was big on just the numbers because you

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<v Speaker 3>got to think I was a guy that predominantly got

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<v Speaker 3>eight hundred yards a year. But that didn't take nothing

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<v Speaker 3>from Did I think I was better than some of

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<v Speaker 3>those guy who was getting fifte hundred yards? Hell yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because I knew that the opportunities wasn't the same, and

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<v Speaker 3>I knew they didn't have to walk in the same

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<v Speaker 3>shoes I was walking in. You understand quarterbacks, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>five and six quarterbacks in one season and then just

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<v Speaker 3>just not having those opportunities because we was run first oriented.

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<v Speaker 3>So I look at this list of saying he looking

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<v Speaker 3>at these guys and saying, when I watch these guys

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<v Speaker 3>on film, they.

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<v Speaker 4>Giving you the business.

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<v Speaker 3>Now now ceedee Lamb is somebody who I think he

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<v Speaker 3>can give you the business too. I do agree with

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<v Speaker 3>what Fred said when he's not separating, But the guy's

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<v Speaker 3>deadly for doing what he does, so you got to

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<v Speaker 3>give him credit. Calvin really is the only guy han't

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<v Speaker 3>played enough for me to give him that credit.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you're is there anybody again that is omitted

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<v Speaker 2>from this list that's not on the list that you're saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>like for me, I'm a little surprised, Like Tyler locketson

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<v Speaker 2>on this list.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not a guy.

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<v Speaker 6>But Tyler Lock Daddy didn't get the credit he needed.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not gonna get the.

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<v Speaker 5>Created because everybody gonna say DK is the is the

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<v Speaker 5>number one dude over there?

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<v Speaker 4>Cooper Cup? Like how much Cooper to get respect?

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<v Speaker 5>They treat him truly like riding the danger field like

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<v Speaker 5>they do not the guy had the trip a clown.

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<v Speaker 4>Too many dudes don't get.

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<v Speaker 5>The dude in a career, Like how could you keep

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<v Speaker 5>leaving Cooper Cup out of these conversations?

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<v Speaker 2>But kill but like Kenny beat you outside would be

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<v Speaker 2>my question with Cooper Cup. Like I love Cooper Cup,

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<v Speaker 2>I love what he brings, but like, these guys are

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<v Speaker 2>all legitimate outside guys that can play inside.

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<v Speaker 4>The Cup has beat every last corner.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he plays inside?

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<v Speaker 4>Like on his list wham? I think he does have some.

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<v Speaker 2>Ability to play outside. I know he's better inside. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just the game.

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<v Speaker 4>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I think all as a receiver, you a receiver for

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<v Speaker 3>a reason. You could play outside inside. I think the

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<v Speaker 3>game ain't playing for some of these guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>makes them more lead through playing them inside.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, if you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Receiving the National Football League, you're receiver here because you

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<v Speaker 3>can go outside of inside.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care that you don't get that many reps

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<v Speaker 4>that way. It's just that's the way the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But I mean again, very very similar Tary, not

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<v Speaker 2>that super sudden, twitchy guy.

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<v Speaker 3>But all they do is beat All they do is

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they won on one man, he just threw

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<v Speaker 3>some names from the top of his head.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you got you.

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<v Speaker 3>I like this listener, I love it, But I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>saying you can't sit there and just think about every

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<v Speaker 3>guy in the league and say, oh, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he just threw some names out there.

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<v Speaker 2>What about you, Mark.

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<v Speaker 4>Chase, She's supposed to be on this list. Hey, that's

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<v Speaker 4>is it too new? Hands down? Hands down? He might

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<v Speaker 4>be my favorite right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Really.

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<v Speaker 4>I like some years ago, I was a big Odell

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<v Speaker 4>Beckham fan.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched him coming into the similar draft, and I

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<v Speaker 3>came home and beded guys like, look, I just saw

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<v Speaker 3>the best receiver in the league. Trent Williams lost that

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<v Speaker 3>bet to me. He didn't believe me. And he came

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<v Speaker 3>in and he dominated. And years later you see this dude,

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<v Speaker 3>Chase come in from the same school, and you're like, bro,

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<v Speaker 3>he just dominates.

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<v Speaker 4>It's nice.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nothing he could he can't do, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. And then he has one of that. He

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<v Speaker 3>has a body type like he can be a running back,

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<v Speaker 3>no get in the backfield and be one of your

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<v Speaker 3>better backs.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just love his game.

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<v Speaker 3>He can separate, catch the ball and he can beat

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<v Speaker 3>you for eighty or he can line up wide and

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<v Speaker 3>beat you for eighty, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's one of those guys that I look at

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<v Speaker 4>him like myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I might not have the size, but you can get

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<v Speaker 3>me the ball down Phield, you can give me the

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<v Speaker 3>ball in immediate you know, short route, whatever it was,

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to find a way up.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's just something I love about you.

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<v Speaker 5>Besides the top three dudes, including himself stopping at Tyree Hill.

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<v Speaker 4>Should be in there. But when we get to break

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<v Speaker 4>in this league.

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<v Speaker 5>Down and you forget about this Jamar chases where these

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<v Speaker 5>guys it will push.

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<v Speaker 4>It's at least guys.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot of guys that we just set their names,

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<v Speaker 3>and this list would look different if you really had

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<v Speaker 3>to break it down.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. I think when when looking at

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<v Speaker 2>this list, and I've said this before, he values certain things.

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<v Speaker 4>You can just tell.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know when like when I'm evaluating tight ends,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, not a great blocker, So I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of demote him, you know what I mean, even though

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's not it's not essential to today's game, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. I think he is saying. I

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<v Speaker 2>like the twitch, I like the releases, I like the

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<v Speaker 2>the the nuance that they bring. Because all these guys

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<v Speaker 2>have very very high level nuance.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't lose when you buy a sports car. Now

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<v Speaker 5>that's the difference between then Amborghien and the JA.

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<v Speaker 4>But in the end they all sports car.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I guess what I'm saying is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think jamar ch should one thousand percent,

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<v Speaker 2>no question.

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<v Speaker 4>But he got to guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He likes, he likes, he likes whatever. You know, he

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<v Speaker 2>likes Laborghini's and that's what he's gonna go with. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you were making a list, Tanner, what are the

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<v Speaker 2>three attributes to receiver he needs to have? And you

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<v Speaker 2>can say two, Fred, what do you got?

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<v Speaker 4>Route route running ability, a dog and dog?

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<v Speaker 2>Dog and dogs?

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<v Speaker 4>And I want you to be I mean, first you

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<v Speaker 4>got to run routes.

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<v Speaker 3>Fred, just talking about my my first attribute or something

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<v Speaker 3>that he would have to identify me with my speed?

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<v Speaker 4>Fred, please get my credit for my route runner. I

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<v Speaker 4>will rot your side. But I understand he left it sports.

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<v Speaker 5>When you talk about a sports card, you're worried about

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<v Speaker 5>the speed. First, you don't worry about the European steer.

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<v Speaker 6>But most people, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying, people with my speed on my gears, they can't

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<v Speaker 3>stop on a down, couldn't stop.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what I did all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what I thought. You were a super power,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So, and that's one of the things that Cooley.

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<v Speaker 3>When me and Cooley did a coaching thing for the

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<v Speaker 3>nfl PA, they asked him Coolly, what was something special

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<v Speaker 3>about ten and Cooley said, I never saw a guy

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<v Speaker 3>that can get to top speed, stop and break it down.

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<v Speaker 4>Incredible, that quick in and out, you know so because

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<v Speaker 4>five receivers can't stop. People to understand that. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>something that I'll probably look at too. But I want

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<v Speaker 4>to see the dog in you. Like I was five

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<v Speaker 4>nine at.

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<v Speaker 3>It on great days and played outside for the first

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<v Speaker 3>ten years of my career. I didn't get into slot

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<v Speaker 3>until they made me say, hey, we just want you

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<v Speaker 3>to slot to take something off you. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I played a slot all through college while I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>getting here in your team. You know So, I played

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<v Speaker 3>outside at five nine, and no one ever gave me

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<v Speaker 3>the you know me or Steve Smith the praise that

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<v Speaker 3>we should get. When it came to just these two

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<v Speaker 3>guys who they said during our draft class that we

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't even be drafted because of our size. We came

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<v Speaker 3>out here and dominated with the guys who we saw

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<v Speaker 3>for years be what four feet you know in just

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<v Speaker 3>taller than us.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I know I said this to you before,

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<v Speaker 2>but I really feel like you played like ten years

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<v Speaker 2>too early. Like you like you in that Cooper Cup

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<v Speaker 2>role where they can bounce you inside outside, get you

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<v Speaker 2>off press like would have been uncomfortable, quite franctly, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So, I think when you talk about wide receivers, of

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<v Speaker 5>course we're out running has to come up number one,

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<v Speaker 5>but never everybody forgets that just because you were wide

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<v Speaker 5>receiving the league catching the ball, yeah, like I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 5>Like I have seen guy like I have been beat

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<v Speaker 5>on a double move and the guy just drops the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Like people think automatically receivers catch every day.

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<v Speaker 6>They don't.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't.

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<v Speaker 5>And then the ones that catch it in traffic that's

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<v Speaker 5>who I get loved to contested balls everything because guess

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<v Speaker 5>what in college, man, you got five feet on these

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<v Speaker 5>guys three greens in separation.

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<v Speaker 4>But that chat and that's where Terry come in the

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<v Speaker 4>best in.

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<v Speaker 2>The limitary challenge, you're just driving a lot of trades

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<v Speaker 2>to Terry. Terry is best dog, He's competitive, he catches

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<v Speaker 2>the football and contested situations.

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<v Speaker 3>We had this talk about Terry. I ain't want to

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<v Speaker 3>cut you off, and I want to mention it. We

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<v Speaker 3>had this talk about Terry, and you asked me, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I thought about his game, uh, last year

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, and I spoke highly of it because

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like, you don't really have to be

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<v Speaker 3>the best route runner, because I don't think he might

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<v Speaker 3>he might have that in him. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>be the best hands catcher because I don't if we

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<v Speaker 3>talk so much about him catching with his body, you

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<v Speaker 3>just got to make the play. Terry does that time

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<v Speaker 3>and time again, and when it's all said and done,

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<v Speaker 3>when it's time for him to give him his credit,

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<v Speaker 3>his jacket that he's trying to go get because it

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<v Speaker 3>seems like he's on that pace. You're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>say how many balls he quoted his hand, not going

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<v Speaker 3>to see how many routes he beat you on.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to say they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna look at the old status and say, man, this

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<v Speaker 3>man dominates since he came in his first year nine

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<v Speaker 3>hundred yards and a thousand yards every year after that,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's what he's shown us with ten plus quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 3>already in his four or five year careers.

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<v Speaker 4>My last he stands up about.

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<v Speaker 5>To receive was and he gets this too, So maybe

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just talking about you. It's a tracking the ball, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>tracking bad passes.

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<v Speaker 6>Most receivers would let bad passes flower.

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<v Speaker 5>Like they don't care like Terry tracks the like he

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<v Speaker 5>will just his body to what it needs to be.

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<v Speaker 4>And I loved it, but well, I don't love it

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<v Speaker 4>as a cornerback.

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<v Speaker 5>But when I see receivers they do it, that just

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<v Speaker 5>tells me they ain't letting no ball get pasted it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so funny here and you guys talking about this.

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<v Speaker 2>We had to breakdown for Terry for the show on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>and I went back and watched all of his targets

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<v Speaker 2>and he's catching balls falling down that he's he's created

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<v Speaker 2>great separation on the slant that's an extra fifteen yard

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<v Speaker 2>game right, or on the goal right it's under thrown.

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<v Speaker 2>He's had to come back and make a play. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just think about it, if he had a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that could consistently get the ball, Yeah, Like, what does

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<v Speaker 2>that look like over the course of a season? Like

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<v Speaker 2>is he is?

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<v Speaker 4>He?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he easily on this list?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's at least easily. I mean, and that's some

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<v Speaker 4>of the things.

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<v Speaker 3>And I keep bringing it up because I live through this,

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<v Speaker 3>you understand, So don't get me mixed up. And said,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk about myself, but I want to

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<v Speaker 3>because when you it's your experience, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Like something that's just man.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to say that all types to go home, like, damn,

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<v Speaker 3>can I just get lucky? Can I get a guy

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<v Speaker 3>for three years? Can I get a guy for two?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, more than two years? And you just see

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<v Speaker 3>the opportunities. And I remember early in my career, Mere

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<v Speaker 3>Reggie Wayne's to be on the phone a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>We came you know, came in together, um and we

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<v Speaker 4>got out.

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<v Speaker 2>Very different experience.

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<v Speaker 4>We were talking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we would talk to each other so much, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was cool because you're kind of naive and you're

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<v Speaker 3>just playing a game trying to find yourself. By the

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<v Speaker 3>year like five or six, I started getting frustrated. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to talk no more because now I see, damn,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to compete, you know, I'm trying to be up.

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<v Speaker 4>There with these other guys.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's why Terry so special to me to

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<v Speaker 3>see he's going through the similar you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>path that I took when it came to the quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 3>and not having that consistency at that position.

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<v Speaker 4>But he just still finds the way.

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<v Speaker 3>And you got to think about last year we were

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<v Speaker 3>talking at one point in time and why we're not

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<v Speaker 3>giving Terry more opportunities.

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<v Speaker 4>Then here goes.

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<v Speaker 3>Heinykey comes in and say, if all said it, then

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<v Speaker 3>throwing the ball up Terry, do you know what.

0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:07.040
<v Speaker 4>You saw? The guy win games for you with that opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>So that, man, it just it baffles me sometime when

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<v Speaker 3>we talk about guys because I can argue, I can

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<v Speaker 3>sit up in and argue with you and say, I

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<v Speaker 3>like Johann when it comes to everything about the wide

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<v Speaker 3>receiver position, hands, rot running, abillity, separation, all that, I

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<v Speaker 3>would give him a noddter front of a lot of guys.

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<v Speaker 3>He's younger than a lot of these guys, but I

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<v Speaker 3>would give him a not.

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<v Speaker 4>But Terry is the dog that I like. That's why

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<v Speaker 4>he will always be one of my top wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 2>So obviously a big part of Terry's career moving forward

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<v Speaker 2>is you know Eric Banamy coming in the young what

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<v Speaker 2>do you call him? Fred? The air Airwolf, Sam House

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<v Speaker 2>coming in right, and that all starts today basically Phase three.

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<v Speaker 2>What let's talk about Fase three and what that really

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<v Speaker 2>means for guys, and what does that mean in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of getting a team ready for the season.

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<v Speaker 5>Vacation is almost over. The fare sid Now you're trying

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<v Speaker 5>to get yourself back in like you just brought up

0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:57.359
<v Speaker 5>coach B and me and from my office player, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>trying to get in here and learn everything I need

0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:00.840
<v Speaker 5>to know. Mentally, when trying camp start, I ain't no

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<v Speaker 5>asking questions, no more come out there. It's just now

0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:06.480
<v Speaker 5>everything starts to wrap up and you get to see

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<v Speaker 5>the whole team. You get to see the rookies mixing

0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.520
<v Speaker 5>with the old guys. Not the old guys looking at

0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:14.240
<v Speaker 5>the rookies because they know some of these guys coming

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<v Speaker 5>for their job. The rookies big eye looking at the

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<v Speaker 5>Ventures because they've been watching him on TV for ten years.

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<v Speaker 5>So you're finish, get that all out the way now,

0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:24.440
<v Speaker 5>and your coaching staff is starting to finish, start to

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<v Speaker 5>imprint the team they finished, start to tell him this

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<v Speaker 5>is what I demand, this is what I want. And

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<v Speaker 5>I did have a long, good discussion with Jack del

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<v Speaker 5>Rio this weekend over the things he likes to do.

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<v Speaker 6>And like he said, right now, I'm not a prisoner

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<v Speaker 6>of my calls anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not a prison of my calls.

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<v Speaker 5>If you get well as a coordinator, you can only

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<v Speaker 5>do what your players allow you to do.

0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:49.960
<v Speaker 6>Like if I play for gred with he want to

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<v Speaker 6>play a lot of man and man.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, if we ain't have a man and man corners,

0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:54.200
<v Speaker 5>he couldn't play a lot of man man He's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be forced to dictate it on different terms. Like I think,

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<v Speaker 5>if you ever want to judge coach real, this gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be the year he got a front end that matches

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<v Speaker 5>the back end.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's all he's been waiting on.

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<v Speaker 5>Like he said, I love to blitz and feel the

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<v Speaker 5>sheet up, but if I got guys, it's not gonna

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:13.320
<v Speaker 5>be aggressive going down here. I got guys started going backwards.

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<v Speaker 5>They not gonna make no plays with the guys I

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<v Speaker 5>got now. They like to make plays go in the

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<v Speaker 5>opposite direction, and I get to teach them without anybody

0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:23.600
<v Speaker 5>tame them first. So at the end of the day, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a coordinating You are a prisoner of your players,

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<v Speaker 5>and you always be and is.

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<v Speaker 2>It also part of it, Like the players are comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>in the system, they can kind of make those make

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<v Speaker 2>quarters come to life or three match come to life

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<v Speaker 2>in the way they couldn't before.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they can't because now you got guys with it

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<v Speaker 5>what I call get out of trouble speed. Get out

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<v Speaker 5>of trouble speed, meaning I can exactly do the wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I was studying it. I jumped it.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't what he was doing.

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<v Speaker 6>I still can spind my hips get out of there

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<v Speaker 6>and still go make a play.

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<v Speaker 5>Well that's what he has right now, because look at

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<v Speaker 5>the guys we had, like kenil Full probably had his

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<v Speaker 5>best year in the NFL last year, but we also

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<v Speaker 5>know he's losing a step in the top end speed

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<v Speaker 5>like with Saint Juice had a great year year, He's

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<v Speaker 5>not the fastest guy.

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.200
<v Speaker 4>Like we needed speed in the back end. We got

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<v Speaker 4>speed in the back end.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you know, what are they actually doing on

0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 2>the field. Obviously their installing defenses. This is like the

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<v Speaker 2>first day of install, Like what does that look like?

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Because I you know, I think back to when we

0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:15.560
<v Speaker 2>were with with Mike and OTAs were way different, but

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 2>like it was basically a practice it was structured me running.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I want to say that. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I like listening to Fred because he gave you a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of insight.

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<v Speaker 3>And but that phase three, whether you're a veteran or

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:31.960
<v Speaker 3>a young guy, especially being a veteran, I feel like

0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:33.320
<v Speaker 3>I was a vet for more years than I was

0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:36.800
<v Speaker 3>a young guy. You honestly sitting there watching guys to

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<v Speaker 3>see who's gonna be on the field with you, you know, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we all can be like right now, all

0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 3>these guys learning something new on the offensive side, But

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:45.440
<v Speaker 3>as a veteran, you're gonna learn it. You're gonna be

0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:47.200
<v Speaker 3>home studying that stuff. Them young guy might be on

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.200
<v Speaker 3>the video games, you home, white, you could. I used

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:50.960
<v Speaker 3>to come in and be like, coach, put the stuff

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:52.240
<v Speaker 3>up there. We gotta do And I knew and I

0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:53.520
<v Speaker 3>ain't have to look at him the board because I

0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 3>just went over the helme.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:58.439
<v Speaker 3>But you're gonna watch and see who can soak all

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:00.359
<v Speaker 3>this knowledge up and go out there and put that

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<v Speaker 3>on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a pro.

0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 3>You know who's gonna be a pro, And who's the

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 3>guy you're gonna have to get in this ear time

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.440
<v Speaker 3>and time again. But even some of those guys you

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:08.679
<v Speaker 3>might have to get in the ear, but you look

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:10.439
<v Speaker 3>at the talent and they're like, man, and we can

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:11.120
<v Speaker 3>get hold of him.

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 4>Now we don't have to worry about waiting to you know,

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:14.880
<v Speaker 4>a blossom lady.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I used to get out of fair Street,

0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:19.760
<v Speaker 3>just knowing that we all get together. You got especially

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 3>when you got a guy like Fred across from you,

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be fun practices because he's gonna call somebody

0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 3>out and then be out and then you have fun

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 3>just competing against these guys, knowing that man, we're finna

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 3>get ready to go home and chop it up and

0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:30.200
<v Speaker 3>play cards.

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<v Speaker 4>And he just brought what up. Make a team.

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 5>This is when you become a team because regardless, we're

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 5>gonna come today and we're gonna work, but in the

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 5>night time we're gonna be.

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 4>Freeom we're gonna go.

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:43.680
<v Speaker 6>We're gonna do that because you're gonna get to do

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:44.879
<v Speaker 6>that in the in the end scene.

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<v Speaker 4>This is when you do it.

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:48.639
<v Speaker 6>This is when you come together right now a lot

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 6>more time.

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 5>You had a lot more time to do it. So

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:52.439
<v Speaker 5>now you get to know the people on the offense

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:55.879
<v Speaker 5>because we spend it. You know, we separated. Now get

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 5>to spend time with TWNA and Rock and the rest

0:24:58.080 --> 0:24:59.440
<v Speaker 5>of the guys. And now we're finna go out and

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 5>do stuff, Jill.

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<v Speaker 3>We used to leave practices, man, and especially in my

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 3>later years, and I promise you guys used to be

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:08.920
<v Speaker 3>at my house playing Bowery until time to basically go

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 3>to sleep. You know, at be one o'clock in the morning,

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:13.879
<v Speaker 3>you're trying to kick you know, lett them, uh hangerson out.

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 4>Hey, Hey, y'all got to go home.

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 5>Man.

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, now you're gonna go to the casino. You

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 4>get to practice on time tomorrow, you know.

0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 3>So this is the fun time of the year where

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 3>you can really start, you know, really meeting the guys

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 3>and knowing who you have. But I used to just

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:29.639
<v Speaker 3>love going out there just knowing who I'm going to

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 3>be able to rely on during the season, because.

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<v Speaker 2>That starts now, right.

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:32.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I will say that, you know, because I

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 2>was old CBA for a year, Tanny, you were new

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:40.399
<v Speaker 2>CBA for three or four years, right, And obviously it

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:42.840
<v Speaker 2>changed pretty dramatically, and I think it's even changed more now,

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:44.160
<v Speaker 2>like this is more of like uh.

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<v Speaker 6>Say, say stop being poltically correct. It's just say they

0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 6>sol I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Not going to say they're soft because I mean, it's

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 2>just different now, it's just different. The expectations are different,

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Like how do you you say they're soft? Like what

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:57.919
<v Speaker 2>do you think the physic Do you think the physical

0:25:57.960 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 2>stuff on the field is as important or is it

0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:00.400
<v Speaker 2>all a mental?

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<v Speaker 5>I think it is, especially on defense. Every year we

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:05.639
<v Speaker 5>watched this in the NFL the first four weeks of

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 5>the season. Nobody in the league katacky, no offices, just

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 5>explode up and down the field because guess what, in

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 5>training camp we didn't hit. In the OTA, we didn't hit.

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 5>So the first time I get to lay my past

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 5>on somebody's gonna be week one. Don't think my past

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:21.879
<v Speaker 5>is gonna have any thump behind it. I played with

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 5>London Fletcher. London Fletcher got not coming out of his nose.

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:29.359
<v Speaker 5>We ain't been in practice thirty minutes because he just

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:32.200
<v Speaker 5>ramming against the guards and coming back to the hold

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 5>and let's do it again. So this that's what I'm

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 5>used to. And now I know I'm starting to age.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm starting to sound like my daddy. Y'all ain't made

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<v Speaker 5>like I used to walk nine miles to school.

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<v Speaker 4>You a liar, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Did walk mine after school.

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<v Speaker 4>But I understand what they're talking about now, I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so how do you feel about it?

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:53.439
<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not I'm a receiver. Man, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>say you don't want whatever you want, worry about all

0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 4>that hitting. Nothing, don't touch me at all. You know,

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna still get out there and route you up,

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<v Speaker 4>and then at the same time I have to, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>anticipate that hit.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was just I felt like I was built

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<v Speaker 3>with that, you know, I was born to get hit

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<v Speaker 3>and get back up and say, all right, you gave

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<v Speaker 3>me your best stuff, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>So, and I think I said before That's.

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<v Speaker 3>Why I say I don't look for a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>stuff into guys when it comes to playing my position.

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 4>I want to see your dog, because I mean, your

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<v Speaker 4>receiver you're gonna catch.

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, you don't have to be the best route runner,

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 3>but you're here for because you can get open. But

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 3>I want to see can you sustain or with you know,

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 3>take a couple of hitscross the middle from a London

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Fletcher or Ray Lewis and have a guy like Fred

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:38.640
<v Speaker 3>chirping at you in your ear and still be able

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<v Speaker 3>to go out there and go toe to toe with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And you mentioned London Fletcher. Yep, it

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 2>was birthday over the weekend, low Green. He's looking good

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 2>these days anyway, So happy birthday, Fletch. But also we

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 2>gotta have stories about fletch Man. Yeah you got any

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 2>stories Tanning. Let's start with tenn and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you know what, the only thing I just remember

0:27:55.440 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 3>from fletch Man how he came every day aim the

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<v Speaker 3>word relentless.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what.

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say something about Fletch that probably you guys

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 3>didn't hear. Fletch came back, We did a show together.

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 3>He did my podcast a couple of years ago that

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 3>I had. I think it was pre pandemic. I had

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:18.159
<v Speaker 3>the podcast and Fletch spoke and said, the one thing

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 3>I liked about Tanner was I watched him prepare and

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 3>get ready for practice every day, and he did the

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 3>same thing, and then he wanted the feeling did the

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 3>same thing. And I'm like, Fletch, I ain't know you

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 3>was watching me, say I watched you all the time

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 3>because you was a guy that didn't say a lot

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 3>you went out and did it, and.

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 4>That right there gave me.

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 3>I was always I've always gave him praise and respected him,

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 3>but I was kind of pleased to know that a

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 3>guy who I respected on the team and looked up

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 3>to was watching me and saw how I carried myself.

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 3>So that's one of the stars all share.

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 6>When I think about Fletch, is he just relentless.

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 5>He relentless in his study habits, He relentless in his rehab.

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 5>And when I first met him, and I first met him,

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 5>I was like, damn you what like? He just he

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 5>like better for me to hit people with. And ain't

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 5>I never forgot. We was playing against the New York Giants,

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 5>last game of the season. You know it get cold

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 5>in New York. Brandon Jacobs goes from two eighty to

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 5>three hundred by time we in December, and.

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 4>He just pounding me.

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.479
<v Speaker 5>They just tossing the sweep, forcing me to hit him.

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 5>And one time he knocked my helm and off and

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 5>here comes London over there.

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 4>He's like you.

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 6>I was like, if we keep this up, I ain't

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 6>gonna be and then London said, don't.

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 4>Word, I get him for you.

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 5>Two three players later they ran him down the middle

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 5>and London just I didn't think len one of these

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 5>dudes was gonna get up like Landa.

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 4>Just he gets the dude.

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 6>It feels like an eighteen wheeling cockrash.

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 4>He jumps back up and say, that's for smooth. I said,

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 4>you know what you deserve to be in the Hall

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 4>of Fame. That's what I told you deserved, the Hall

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 4>of Fame. I got one more story about London, and

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 4>this is we both as on other teams.

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 3>I was with the Jets my second year as a Jet,

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 3>but my first year really playing, and Flesh was playing

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 3>with Buffalo with the Bills. Yep, and I run a

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 3>scene route, Like I said, this is my first year

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 3>really getting acclimated because you know, my first year as

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 3>a rookie, I was hurt.

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 4>I had a serious knee injury. So I catch the

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 4>scene route. I had to turn around for it. Chad

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 4>pinning and through it to me. I couldn't just catch

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 4>it up to see.

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 3>I turned around to turn my whole bike around, catches

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 3>it and I turn around and I know it was

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 3>a guy outside of me, but I don't want to look.

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 3>You know how they tell you not to look back,

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 3>So I'm kind of like feeling my periffic saying like, okay,

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 3>I know someone to the left, so let me veer

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 3>to the to the middle of the field because I'm

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 3>out running everybody, and I just get tripped up.

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 4>In the middle of the field and I look back.

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 4>It's a little.

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 6>Butterball linebacker and I'm like the three. I'm like, I'm like, the.

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 4>Linebacker just court me. So I went to the sideline.

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 4>Moe Lewis was like, so they say he fast. That

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 4>was a lineback of that court.

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, so, nah, I'm going to watch the

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 3>films see how he really caught me so low and

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 3>behold he was in like two under.

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 4>I mean to Tampa two. Tampa two.

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 3>He was already going dropping to the middle of the field,

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 3>but I kind of ran right into his thing. But

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 3>not only does that, he was fast too. So I

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 3>went through a couple of games feeling like that here

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 3>I might have lost. And then I realized London flats,

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, he could run with some of the best guys.

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 3>So that's that's something me and him talked about being teammates.

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Here.

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 3>We have to buy it, because I say, London, I

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 3>ain't gonna lie was checking myself like every week I'm

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 3>trying to outrun guys to make sure I still got

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 3>those gears.

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Ye, dude. I remember the first time I came out

0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 2>to practice with London, so you know, London was in

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 2>year thirteen, like he was, He's been around for a while,

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 2>and we were on the sideline and I remember he

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 2>went and he was in the middle of field and

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 2>chased running back down I think it was Clinton Porters.

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Chased him down kind of a full tackle out of bounds,

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>did a cartwheel, jumped right up to his feet, and

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 2>then sprinted back to the huddle. And I was like,

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 2>it was like day four or five of training camp,

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, man, he is a absolute machine.

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Because I felt terrible, you know, And I was like,

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:58.720
<v Speaker 2>this man's been banging heads like for a million years

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:00.959
<v Speaker 2>and he just had that he just had that thing

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 2>to him, man.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just wish he was a better salesman. I

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 5>always told him that the only reacause him and Ray

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 5>Lewis numbers are identify They identical. But Ray is a salesman,

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 5>you understand, Like some guys say, here, look at me,

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 5>and now I can show you great and some guys

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 5>just say, you know what, I'm just great and I'm

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 5>just gonna.

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Go do it. Well.

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 6>I always told down South for quiet mouth doesn't get fed.

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I mean that's a great segue. Like do

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 2>you think he deserves to be in the Hall Fame? Yeah?

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 5>I do think he no question, But we're gonna have

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 5>to sell him because he won't sell hisself.

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 3>And why should you, That's my thing. I don't I

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 3>don't feel like that's appropriate. If I got to tell

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 3>you that I can catch passes and you don't turn

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 3>the film and see that, that's.

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 2>A great point.

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 4>I shouldn't have to do that. And I told you

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 4>that I bring it back from experience.

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 3>No guy that goes out there and put it on

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 3>tape should have to go out there and tell you

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 3>what I put on tape.

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 4>It's there, Stop playing favorites.

0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Leave.

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 4>But we may see it.

0:32:57.760 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 5>But when you're seeing this campaign and go on for

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:03.479
<v Speaker 5>what fifteen years, players look like Basselli and the Risky's guy.

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 5>I watched him campaign himself to the point that that

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 5>Bruce Smith had to say he don't deserve to be

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 5>in So I've seen this.

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 3>I watched receivers when I was sitting out that year,

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 3>right after my last year here in my fourteenth season.

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 4>I was sitting home just like.

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 3>Other receivers, and I watched what the kid name is?

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 3>The guy name is from New England that called the bass.

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 3>He's now Wes Welker west Walker had to go to

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Twitter and say I'm still.

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm on the market. I did this and did that

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 4>and then he got picked up. Wow, Wes Walker pull

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 4>on his film. You know what I'm saying. So a

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 4>guy hit me up on Instagram like Tanner, you need

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 4>to say, I wouldn't do it. That's not me.

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 3>I would not go out there and beg for nothing

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 3>because they always tell you to put good stuff on tape.

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 4>So getting back to London, he did that.

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 3>The number speaks for you know how they say numbers

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 3>don't lie and everything don't You could do the numbers there.

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 3>So while we have to sit here talk about this

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 3>man deserve credit the same way as a guy like

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 3>b Mitch, who's the second.

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 4>All time and you know all you know behind Jared

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 4>robson scribbles, you know what I mean, Like all Purple

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 4>Jars like it don't make it.

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 6>But Devin Hester will make it in before be mitched.

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 3>We undersaying that, but I'm just saying, bro like London,

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 3>Fletcher shouldn't have to be you should have to sit

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 3>here and talk about when or why he's not in there.

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 4>He needs to be in there.

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:26.359
<v Speaker 5>Guys like I love like pat Rillis played that old miss.

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:28.359
<v Speaker 5>He gonna be a guy that they throw up there.

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 5>He retired early, so it's gonna be so many guys

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 5>that they throw up there because this it's literally the

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 5>Hall of Fame is.

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 4>Turning into a salesman competition right now.

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 3>It ain't about who the best, know, it's all about

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 3>the who who I can get in here with a

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 3>big enough name.

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 4>It's all about that that can make us.

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Look good like you know, yeah, well I mean London,

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 2>great leader, great teammate, great player. Right, So, happy monthday,

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Happy birthday, London.

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:53.439
<v Speaker 4>Happy seventy third line.

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully you're here for you and they love you and

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 2>that gold jacket. Sooner rather than later, he'd be pretty awesome,

0:34:58.040 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 2>seeing he definitely deserves it, all right, guys, I think

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 2>that's it for the show, all right, So be sure

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 2>to rate and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, and

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<v Speaker 2>check out command Center every Wednesday, on the commander's YouTube page,