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Speaker 2: This week is a full week of Premier Commander's contact.

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Speaker 2: On Monday, Julie had a one on one interview with

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Speaker 2: him Terry McLaurin. Tomorrow Wednesday is Command Center and we're

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Speaker 2: talking Phase three running backs, wide receiver and Fred, you

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Speaker 2: keep getting fired up. I'm always fired, always fired up.

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Speaker 2: Thursday eight to the nine has his takes, Santana little

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Speaker 3: Got speaking of Terry were talking a little bit about

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Speaker 3: do why I receive this?

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Speaker 2: And I can't help myself. I gotta always be in

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Speaker 2: the comments section of our YouTube page. You do I

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Speaker 2: live there? You do live there and see all your questions.

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Speaker 2: And on Friday I want to engage with you and

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Speaker 2: answer as many questions as I can. We got something

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Speaker 2: for you all week. Be sure to check it out

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Speaker 2: on YouTube. Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan

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Speaker 2: Paulson here with Fred Spoot and Santana Man.

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Speaker 4: Say you guys doing that's my name, that's your name?

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Speaker 2: You're doing all right?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing. I'm always good.

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Speaker 2: That was the weekend man I had.

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Speaker 4: I had a crazy weekend.

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Speaker 5: Started off with some very good golfing on the Eastern

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Speaker 5: Shores with all of the old school guys, and I

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Speaker 5: got it. Speaking of wide receivers, I got into a

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Speaker 5: trash talking section with Gary Clark, Ricky Sanders, you know

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Speaker 5: the posse, and they threw something at me. They said,

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Speaker 5: do you think your rookie year defensive backfield could have

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Speaker 5: stopped us? And my rookie year defensive backfield was me,

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Speaker 5: Champ Bailey and Darryl Green versus Ricky Sanders, Gary Clark and.

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Speaker 4: Even my three guys.

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Speaker 6: We go mine to mine.

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Speaker 4: You don't want that, I want it all.

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Speaker 3: But see you gotta think too that that those years

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Speaker 3: that Gary Clark and all Monk was special. They was

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Speaker 3: up there in the tops with Jed Rice and all

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Speaker 3: the other guys. At times I was looking at the

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Speaker 3: All Madden team. You were seeing Gary Clark right underneath

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Speaker 4: So I don't know, there's a lot of smoke, man,

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Speaker 4: that's a lot of smoke.

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Speaker 5: We got two we got two yellow jackets on that side.

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Speaker 5: They got one yellow jacket on nail.

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Speaker 2: So what's the age difference between the two guys, like

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Speaker 2: when did they play when you played.

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Speaker 6: Well, we're looking at fifteen years.

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Speaker 4: And how much change, how much of the game change.

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Speaker 5: And Coach Gibbs in that office that they had with

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Speaker 5: the posse, plus what the Houston Oilers was doing down

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Speaker 5: They were the first teams to really push the ball

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Speaker 4: So they was anomaly at the time.

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Speaker 3: Well, me and Fred came in around the time when

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Speaker 3: a dinosaur is still roamed, so you the game wasn't

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Speaker 3: changed as much much as you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: We were still able to get hitting them out. We

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Speaker 3: were still able to get tugged on, you know, some

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Speaker 3: of the same things that you saw. Those guys you

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Speaker 4: But I don't know Fred, Fred'd be talking.

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Speaker 3: Man't want to get in front of I would have

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Speaker 3: got in front of arg money.

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Speaker 6: Tell me what you want to Let.

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Speaker 2: It happy, all right? So talk about wide receivers. Ye,

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Speaker 2: our guy Devanta Adams came out with his receiver ranking

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Speaker 2: and not surprisingly he's the number one on that lists.

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Speaker 2: I'm not man on that I'm not man, and I

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Speaker 6: Is a basketball player and a football players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he does an excellent job. But followed by Justin

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Speaker 2: Jefferson two, A Tyreek Hill to be, Stefan Diggs a

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Speaker 4: Well, I love the list.

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Speaker 3: I'm not surprised by any guy who's saying that they're

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Speaker 3: they're the best out of all these guys. But one

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Speaker 3: ones that know the game, they're not picking guys off

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Speaker 4: And you can give him any quarterback and he gonna

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Speaker 3: DeVante Adams he stands tall on that list mainly because

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Speaker 3: what the last what five years he got over six

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Speaker 4: So that's what I look for. You know, I was the.

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Speaker 3: Guy that had to play with a lot of different

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Speaker 3: But you couldn't look at the film and say, Okay,

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Speaker 4: So that's what I think.

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Speaker 3: He's basically giving these other guys credit for that did

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Speaker 2: And the thing I wanted to ask you ten is

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Speaker 2: like Davontae Adams is a like a route running technician.

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Speaker 2: Excellent releases, excellent at the top of routes, excellent at

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Speaker 2: And he picked guys i'd say that kind of do

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Speaker 2: the same thing as him. Right, They're very similar. They're

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Speaker 2: very technically kind of proficient as route runners. You know

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Speaker 2: when you were when you were making lists, when you

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Speaker 4: Game recognized game.

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Speaker 3: I was one of those guys that, man, I'm not

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Speaker 3: probably even gonna give myself the noad most of the time,

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Speaker 4: You know, uh, Tyreek Hill might.

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Speaker 3: Not be a guy like him, but he's twitched up

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Speaker 4: So I like this list.

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Speaker 3: You know, the only guy I would probably question it

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Speaker 2: When I played with him in Atlanta, though he's very

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Speaker 2: DeVante Adams ask very twitched up short area understands routes

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Speaker 2: at a high level. So I can see when I

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Speaker 2: does things well, he values.

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Speaker 5: But if I got a rank him, I can't rank

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Speaker 5: I just can't especially which guys that's out here putting

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Speaker 4: Extremely too high, and Lamb like.

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Speaker 5: Ceedee, Lamb is truly They don't play him on the

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Speaker 5: outside no more. They can't play him primarily at slot,

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Speaker 5: and he has problems separating like nobody wants to talk

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Speaker 6: Now he can contested plug catches, that's his thing.

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Speaker 4: He can make it.

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Speaker 5: But I gotta put Terry in this group because I'm

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Speaker 4: That's a dB.

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Speaker 5: If I got to study Terry, he doesn't have a

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Speaker 4: If I'm studying.

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Speaker 6: Santana Mouse, he's defining the trade.

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Speaker 4: Is he's gonna run away from you?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 5: Well, Terry does what he needs to beat you in

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Speaker 5: that circumstance, in that situation, if he needs to click

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Speaker 5: as a cornerback, you can't take your study into trying

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Speaker 4: You just got to play him man the man.

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Speaker 5: Mono you mono, and try to make sure your body

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Speaker 2: But definitely not this type of guy though Terry. You know,

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Speaker 2: Terry's not. He's better than Cdland know, but I'm saying

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Speaker 2: he's not. He doesn't have the same traits, you know.

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Speaker 2: And obviously this is a very specific type of receiver

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Speaker 4: Adam's number one on that list. If you ask me, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Tybreek Hill is the most dangerous motion hereus whipping in sports,

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Speaker 3: But he just like when it comes to receivers, you

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Speaker 2: When he came in as a running back, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's crazy to think about it. And so of these guys,

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Speaker 5: Tar receivers don't bother me, So Evans don't worry about

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Speaker 5: the city. Lamb can't get down to feel as fast

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Speaker 5: as people think he is. Tyreek Hill is the most

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Speaker 5: dangerous weapon on here. He's the one that you go

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Speaker 5: home and have nightmares about because you know you're one

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Speaker 5: bad step away from.

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Speaker 4: Him, from you not even being in the screens.

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Speaker 5: If you watch his highlights, he's the only person in

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Speaker 2: How does he compare to a guy like Randy Moss?

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Speaker 2: You know guy that.

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Speaker 5: Very similar everym it's just one tall in one short

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Speaker 5: on you like body frames are different, but how they

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Speaker 5: attack you vertically, It's like these the type guy to say,

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Speaker 5: you know what, I'm gonna run twelve routes today, ten

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Speaker 5: of them gonna be gold routes.

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Speaker 6: We know they go routes and still cannot keep up with.

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Speaker 2: How did you prep for a guy like Randy Moss? Like,

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Speaker 2: because I think people you know, they see fast guys,

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Speaker 2: but it's a different bugga.

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Speaker 5: Well, I looked like had Greg Williams when we played

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Speaker 5: against Randy and Greg used to tell us he's not

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Speaker 5: running slants.

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Speaker 6: They out started to play Slantsony's game.

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Speaker 5: I'm taking you out to gather like this guy is

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Speaker 5: gonna run go route and post. Be ready to play

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Speaker 5: go route and post. Anything short. I'll make sure the

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Speaker 5: linebackers take care. So's you have to game playing as

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Speaker 5: a group of geinst Randy.

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Speaker 5: Randy is not the type guy you say here, Deon Sanders,

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Speaker 6: Let it be over. Brandy was never that type dude.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing that's so special about the game too.

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Speaker 4: And that you do to a Randy Moss or Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And so ten, I guess, are there any

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Speaker 2: is there anybody on this list that you're surprising on

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Speaker 4: I said, Kevin. Really, now, I understand when it comes

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Speaker 3: I'm never was big on just the numbers because you

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Speaker 3: got to think I was a guy that predominantly got

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Speaker 3: because I knew that the opportunities wasn't the same, and

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Speaker 3: So I look at this list of saying he looking

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Speaker 4: Giving you the business.

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Speaker 3: Now now ceedee Lamb is somebody who I think he

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Speaker 3: give him credit. Calvin really is the only guy han't

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Speaker 2: So when you're is there anybody again that is omitted

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Speaker 4: It's not a guy.

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Speaker 6: But Tyler Lock Daddy didn't get the credit he needed.

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Speaker 2: He's not gonna get the.

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Speaker 5: Created because everybody gonna say DK is the is the

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Speaker 4: Cooper Cup? Like how much Cooper to get respect?

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Speaker 5: They treat him truly like riding the danger field like

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Speaker 4: Too many dudes don't get.

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Speaker 5: The dude in a career, Like how could you keep

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Speaker 2: But kill but like Kenny beat you outside would be

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Speaker 2: my question with Cooper Cup. Like I love Cooper Cup,

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Speaker 4: The Cup has beat every last corner.

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Speaker 2: Did he plays inside?

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Speaker 4: Like on his list wham? I think he does have some.

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Speaker 2: Ability to play outside. I know he's better inside. That's

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 3: I think all as a receiver, you a receiver for

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Speaker 4: So you know, if you're.

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Speaker 3: Receiving the National Football League, you're receiver here because you

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Speaker 4: I don't care that you don't get that many reps

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Speaker 4: that way. It's just that's the way the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But I mean again, very very similar Tary, not

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Speaker 3: But all they do is beat All they do is

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Speaker 3: I mean they won on one man, he just threw

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Speaker 4: I mean, you got you.

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Speaker 3: I like this listener, I love it, But I'm just

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Speaker 3: saying you can't sit there and just think about every

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Speaker 2: What about you, Mark.

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Speaker 4: Chase, She's supposed to be on this list. Hey, that's

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Speaker 4: is it too new? Hands down? Hands down? He might

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Speaker 4: be my favorite right now.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 4: I like some years ago, I was a big Odell

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Speaker 3: I watched him coming into the similar draft, and I

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Speaker 3: the best receiver in the league. Trent Williams lost that

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Speaker 3: bet to me. He didn't believe me. And he came

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Speaker 3: Chase come in from the same school, and you're like, bro,

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Speaker 3: he just dominates.

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Speaker 4: It's nice.

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Speaker 3: It's nothing he could he can't do, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. And then he has one of that. He

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Speaker 4: So I just love his game.

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Speaker 3: He can separate, catch the ball and he can beat

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Speaker 3: you for eighty or he can line up wide and

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Speaker 4: So he's one of those guys that I look at

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Speaker 3: I might not have the size, but you can get

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Speaker 3: me the ball down Phield, you can give me the

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Speaker 3: ball in immediate you know, short route, whatever it was,

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Speaker 3: I was going to find a way up.

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Speaker 4: And that's just something I love about you.

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Speaker 5: Besides the top three dudes, including himself stopping at Tyree Hill.

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Speaker 4: Should be in there. But when we get to break

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Speaker 5: Down and you forget about this Jamar chases where these

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Speaker 4: It's at least guys.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of guys that we just set their names,

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Speaker 3: and this list would look different if you really had

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I think when when looking at

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Speaker 4: You can just tell.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know when like when I'm evaluating tight ends,

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Speaker 2: it's it's not it's not essential to today's game, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I think he is saying. I

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Speaker 2: the the nuance that they bring. Because all these guys

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Speaker 5: You don't lose when you buy a sports car. Now

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Speaker 5: that's the difference between then Amborghien and the JA.

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Speaker 4: But in the end they all sports car.

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Speaker 2: And so I guess what I'm saying is like, you know,

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Speaker 4: But he got to guy.

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Speaker 2: He likes, he likes, he likes whatever. You know, he

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Speaker 2: if you were making a list, Tanner, what are the

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Speaker 2: three attributes to receiver he needs to have? And you

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Speaker 2: can say two, Fred, what do you got?

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Speaker 4: Route route running ability, a dog and dog?

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Speaker 2: Dog and dogs?

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Speaker 4: And I want you to be I mean, first you

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Speaker 3: Fred, just talking about my my first attribute or something

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Speaker 4: Fred, please get my credit for my route runner. I

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Speaker 5: When you talk about a sports card, you're worried about

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Speaker 6: But most people, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Saying, people with my speed on my gears, they can't

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Speaker 4: And that's what I did all the time.

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Speaker 2: So that's what I thought. You were a super power,

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Speaker 4: So, and that's one of the things that Cooley.

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Speaker 3: about ten and Cooley said, I never saw a guy

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Speaker 4: Incredible, that quick in and out, you know so because

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Speaker 4: something that I'll probably look at too. But I want

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Speaker 4: to see the dog in you. Like I was five

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Speaker 4: nine at.

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Speaker 3: It on great days and played outside for the first

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Speaker 3: until they made me say, hey, we just want you

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Speaker 3: getting here in your team. You know So, I played

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Speaker 3: the you know me or Steve Smith the praise that

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Speaker 3: shouldn't even be drafted because of our size. We came

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Speaker 2: You know, I know I said this to you before,

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Speaker 2: role where they can bounce you inside outside, get you

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Speaker 2: off press like would have been uncomfortable, quite franctly, you know.

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Speaker 5: So, I think when you talk about wide receivers, of

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Speaker 5: but never everybody forgets that just because you were wide

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Speaker 5: Like I have seen guy like I have been beat

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Speaker 4: Like people think automatically receivers catch every day.

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Speaker 6: They don't.

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Speaker 2: They don't.

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Speaker 5: And then the ones that catch it in traffic that's

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Speaker 4: But that chat and that's where Terry come in the

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Speaker 2: The limitary challenge, you're just driving a lot of trades

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Speaker 3: We had this talk about Terry. I ain't want to

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Speaker 3: the best route runner, because I don't think he might

449
00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,080
Speaker 3: he might have that in him. You don't have to

450
00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,359
Speaker 3: be the best hands catcher because I don't if we

451
00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,399
Speaker 3: talk so much about him catching with his body, you

452
00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,200
Speaker 3: just got to make the play. Terry does that time

453
00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,320
Speaker 3: and time again, and when it's all said and done,

454
00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,200
Speaker 3: when it's time for him to give him his credit,

455
00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:41,960
Speaker 3: his jacket that he's trying to go get because it

456
00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,080
Speaker 3: seems like he's on that pace. You're not going to

457
00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,919
Speaker 3: say how many balls he quoted his hand, not going

458
00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,399
Speaker 3: to see how many routes he beat you on.

459
00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,200
Speaker 4: It's going to say they're.

460
00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,600
Speaker 3: Gonna look at the old status and say, man, this

461
00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,040
Speaker 3: man dominates since he came in his first year nine

462
00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,119
Speaker 3: hundred yards and a thousand yards every year after that,

463
00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,760
Speaker 3: and that's what he's shown us with ten plus quarterbacks

464
00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,960
Speaker 3: already in his four or five year careers.

465
00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,000
Speaker 4: My last he stands up about.

466
00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,320
Speaker 5: To receive was and he gets this too, So maybe

467
00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,480
Speaker 5: I'm just talking about you. It's a tracking the ball, Yeah,

468
00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,120
Speaker 5: tracking bad passes.

469
00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,480
Speaker 6: Most receivers would let bad passes flower.

470
00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,760
Speaker 5: Like they don't care like Terry tracks the like he

471
00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,200
Speaker 5: will just his body to what it needs to be.

472
00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,000
Speaker 4: And I loved it, but well, I don't love it

473
00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:20,720
Speaker 4: as a cornerback.

474
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,760
Speaker 5: But when I see receivers they do it, that just

475
00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,000
Speaker 5: tells me they ain't letting no ball get pasted it.

476
00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,440
Speaker 2: It's so funny here and you guys talking about this.

477
00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,800
Speaker 2: We had to breakdown for Terry for the show on Tuesday,

478
00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,560
Speaker 2: and I went back and watched all of his targets

479
00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,600
Speaker 2: and he's catching balls falling down that he's he's created

480
00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,880
Speaker 2: great separation on the slant that's an extra fifteen yard

481
00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,920
Speaker 2: game right, or on the goal right it's under thrown.

482
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:39,960
Speaker 2: He's had to come back and make a play. And

483
00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,080
Speaker 2: I just think about it, if he had a guy

484
00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,360
Speaker 2: that could consistently get the ball, Yeah, Like, what does

485
00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,200
Speaker 2: that look like over the course of a season? Like

486
00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:46,720
Speaker 2: is he is?

487
00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:46,800
Speaker 4: He?

488
00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,120
Speaker 2: Is he easily on this list?

489
00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's at least easily. I mean, and that's some

490
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:50,960
Speaker 4: of the things.

491
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,200
Speaker 3: And I keep bringing it up because I live through this,

492
00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,040
Speaker 3: you understand, So don't get me mixed up. And said,

493
00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,080
Speaker 3: I want to talk about myself, but I want to

494
00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,359
Speaker 3: because when you it's your experience, it's.

495
00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:02,480
Speaker 4: Like something that's just man.

496
00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,440
Speaker 3: I used to say that all types to go home, like, damn,

497
00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,719
Speaker 3: can I just get lucky? Can I get a guy

498
00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,399
Speaker 3: for three years? Can I get a guy for two?

499
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,000
Speaker 3: You know, more than two years? And you just see

500
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,879
Speaker 3: the opportunities. And I remember early in my career, Mere

501
00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 3: Reggie Wayne's to be on the phone a lot.

502
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:15,680
Speaker 2: You know.

503
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,159
Speaker 4: We came you know, came in together, um and we

504
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:18,840
Speaker 4: got out.

505
00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:19,760
Speaker 2: Very different experience.

506
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:20,840
Speaker 4: We were talking.

507
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we would talk to each other so much, and

508
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 3: it was cool because you're kind of naive and you're

509
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,920
Speaker 3: just playing a game trying to find yourself. By the

510
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 3: year like five or six, I started getting frustrated. I

511
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,680
Speaker 3: don't want to talk no more because now I see, damn,

512
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 3: I'm trying to compete, you know, I'm trying to be up.

513
00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:35,840
Speaker 4: There with these other guys.

514
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 3: And so that's why Terry so special to me to

515
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 3: see he's going through the similar you know, kind of

516
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 3: path that I took when it came to the quarterbacks

517
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,640
Speaker 3: and not having that consistency at that position.

518
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,880
Speaker 4: But he just still finds the way.

519
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,879
Speaker 3: And you got to think about last year we were

520
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 3: talking at one point in time and why we're not

521
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:54,919
Speaker 3: giving Terry more opportunities.

522
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 4: Then here goes.

523
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 3: Heinykey comes in and say, if all said it, then

524
00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 3: throwing the ball up Terry, do you know what.

525
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 4: You saw? The guy win games for you with that opportunity.

526
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 3: So that, man, it just it baffles me sometime when

527
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 3: we talk about guys because I can argue, I can

528
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 3: sit up in and argue with you and say, I

529
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 3: like Johann when it comes to everything about the wide

530
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 3: receiver position, hands, rot running, abillity, separation, all that, I

531
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,400
Speaker 3: would give him a noddter front of a lot of guys.

532
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 3: He's younger than a lot of these guys, but I

533
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 3: would give him a not.

534
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 4: But Terry is the dog that I like. That's why

535
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 4: he will always be one of my top wide receivers.

536
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 2: So obviously a big part of Terry's career moving forward

537
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 2: is you know Eric Banamy coming in the young what

538
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 2: do you call him? Fred? The air Airwolf, Sam House

539
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 2: coming in right, and that all starts today basically Phase three.

540
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 2: What let's talk about Fase three and what that really

541
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 2: means for guys, and what does that mean in terms

542
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 2: of getting a team ready for the season.

543
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:53,400
Speaker 5: Vacation is almost over. The fare sid Now you're trying

544
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 5: to get yourself back in like you just brought up

545
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 5: coach B and me and from my office player, I'm

546
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 5: trying to get in here and learn everything I need

547
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 5: to know. Mentally, when trying camp start, I ain't no

548
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 5: asking questions, no more come out there. It's just now

549
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 5: everything starts to wrap up and you get to see

550
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 5: the whole team. You get to see the rookies mixing

551
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 5: with the old guys. Not the old guys looking at

552
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 5: the rookies because they know some of these guys coming

553
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 5: for their job. The rookies big eye looking at the

554
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 5: Ventures because they've been watching him on TV for ten years.

555
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 5: So you're finish, get that all out the way now,

556
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 5: and your coaching staff is starting to finish, start to

557
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 5: imprint the team they finished, start to tell him this

558
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 5: is what I demand, this is what I want. And

559
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 5: I did have a long, good discussion with Jack del

560
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 5: Rio this weekend over the things he likes to do.

561
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 6: And like he said, right now, I'm not a prisoner

562
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,360
Speaker 6: of my calls anymore.

563
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 2: It's true.

564
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 4: I'm not a prison of my calls.

565
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 5: If you get well as a coordinator, you can only

566
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 5: do what your players allow you to do.

567
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 6: Like if I play for gred with he want to

568
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 6: play a lot of man and man.

569
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 5: Well, if we ain't have a man and man corners,

570
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 5: he couldn't play a lot of man man He's gonna

571
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 5: be forced to dictate it on different terms. Like I think,

572
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 5: if you ever want to judge coach real, this gonna

573
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 5: be the year he got a front end that matches

574
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:03,959
Speaker 5: the back end.

575
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 4: And that's all he's been waiting on.

576
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 5: Like he said, I love to blitz and feel the

577
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 5: sheet up, but if I got guys, it's not gonna

578
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 5: be aggressive going down here. I got guys started going backwards.

579
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 5: They not gonna make no plays with the guys I

580
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 5: got now. They like to make plays go in the

581
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 5: opposite direction, and I get to teach them without anybody

582
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 5: tame them first. So at the end of the day, yes,

583
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 5: it's a coordinating You are a prisoner of your players,

584
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 5: and you always be and is.

585
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 2: It also part of it, Like the players are comfortable

586
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 2: in the system, they can kind of make those make

587
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 2: quarters come to life or three match come to life

588
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: in the way they couldn't before.

589
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, they can't because now you got guys with it

590
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 5: what I call get out of trouble speed. Get out

591
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 5: of trouble speed, meaning I can exactly do the wrong thing.

592
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 5: I was studying it. I jumped it.

593
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 4: It wasn't what he was doing.

594
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 6: I still can spind my hips get out of there

595
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 6: and still go make a play.

596
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 5: Well that's what he has right now, because look at

597
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 5: the guys we had, like kenil Full probably had his

598
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 5: best year in the NFL last year, but we also

599
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 5: know he's losing a step in the top end speed

600
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 5: like with Saint Juice had a great year year, He's

601
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 5: not the fastest guy.

602
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 4: Like we needed speed in the back end. We got

603
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 4: speed in the back end.

604
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 2: And so you know, what are they actually doing on

605
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: the field. Obviously their installing defenses. This is like the

606
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 2: first day of install, Like what does that look like?

607
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: Because I you know, I think back to when we

608
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: were with with Mike and OTAs were way different, but

609
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: like it was basically a practice it was structured me running.

610
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 4: I mean, I want to say that. And you know,

611
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 4: I like listening to Fred because he gave you a

612
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 4: lot of insight.

613
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 3: And but that phase three, whether you're a veteran or

614
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 3: a young guy, especially being a veteran, I feel like

615
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: I was a vet for more years than I was

616
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 3: a young guy. You honestly sitting there watching guys to

617
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 3: see who's gonna be on the field with you, you know, Like,

618
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: I mean, we all can be like right now, all

619
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: these guys learning something new on the offensive side, But

620
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 3: as a veteran, you're gonna learn it. You're gonna be

621
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 3: home studying that stuff. Them young guy might be on

622
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 3: the video games, you home, white, you could. I used

623
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 3: to come in and be like, coach, put the stuff

624
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 3: up there. We gotta do And I knew and I

625
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 3: ain't have to look at him the board because I

626
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: just went over the helme.

627
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 4: You know.

628
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 3: But you're gonna watch and see who can soak all

629
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 3: this knowledge up and go out there and put that

630
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 3: on the field.

631
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:01,479
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a pro.

632
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: You know who's gonna be a pro, And who's the

633
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 3: guy you're gonna have to get in this ear time

634
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 3: and time again. But even some of those guys you

635
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 3: might have to get in the ear, but you look

636
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 3: at the talent and they're like, man, and we can

637
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 3: get hold of him.

638
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 4: Now we don't have to worry about waiting to you know,

639
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 4: a blossom lady.

640
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 3: That's what I used to get out of fair Street,

641
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 3: just knowing that we all get together. You got especially

642
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 3: when you got a guy like Fred across from you,

643
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 3: it's gonna be fun practices because he's gonna call somebody

644
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 3: out and then be out and then you have fun

645
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 3: just competing against these guys, knowing that man, we're finna

646
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: get ready to go home and chop it up and

647
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 3: play cards.

648
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 4: And he just brought what up. Make a team.

649
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 5: This is when you become a team because regardless, we're

650
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 5: gonna come today and we're gonna work, but in the

651
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 5: night time we're gonna be.

652
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 4: Freeom we're gonna go.

653
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 6: We're gonna do that because you're gonna get to do

654
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 6: that in the in the end scene.

655
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 4: This is when you do it.

656
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 6: This is when you come together right now a lot

657
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 6: more time.

658
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 5: You had a lot more time to do it. So

659
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 5: now you get to know the people on the offense

660
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 5: because we spend it. You know, we separated. Now get

661
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 5: to spend time with TWNA and Rock and the rest

662
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 5: of the guys. And now we're finna go out and

663
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 5: do stuff, Jill.

664
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 3: We used to leave practices, man, and especially in my

665
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 3: later years, and I promise you guys used to be

666
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 3: at my house playing Bowery until time to basically go

667
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 3: to sleep. You know, at be one o'clock in the morning,

668
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 3: you're trying to kick you know, lett them, uh hangerson out.

669
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, y'all got to go home.

670
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 5: Man.

671
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 4: Oh no, now you're gonna go to the casino. You

672
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 4: get to practice on time tomorrow, you know.

673
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 3: So this is the fun time of the year where

674
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 3: you can really start, you know, really meeting the guys

675
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: and knowing who you have. But I used to just

676
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 3: love going out there just knowing who I'm going to

677
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: be able to rely on during the season, because.

678
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: That starts now, right.

679
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

680
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: And also I will say that, you know, because I

681
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: was old CBA for a year, Tanny, you were new

682
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 2: CBA for three or four years, right, And obviously it

683
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: changed pretty dramatically, and I think it's even changed more now,

684
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 2: like this is more of like uh.

685
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 6: Say, say stop being poltically correct. It's just say they

686
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 6: sol I'm.

687
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 2: Not going to say they're soft because I mean, it's

688
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 2: just different now, it's just different. The expectations are different,

689
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: Like how do you you say they're soft? Like what

690
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 2: do you think the physic Do you think the physical

691
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: stuff on the field is as important or is it

692
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 2: all a mental?

693
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 5: I think it is, especially on defense. Every year we

694
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 5: watched this in the NFL the first four weeks of

695
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 5: the season. Nobody in the league katacky, no offices, just

696
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 5: explode up and down the field because guess what, in

697
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 5: training camp we didn't hit. In the OTA, we didn't hit.

698
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 5: So the first time I get to lay my past

699
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 5: on somebody's gonna be week one. Don't think my past

700
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 5: is gonna have any thump behind it. I played with

701
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 5: London Fletcher. London Fletcher got not coming out of his nose.

702
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 5: We ain't been in practice thirty minutes because he just

703
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 5: ramming against the guards and coming back to the hold

704
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 5: and let's do it again. So this that's what I'm

705
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 5: used to. And now I know I'm starting to age.

706
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 5: I'm starting to sound like my daddy. Y'all ain't made

707
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 5: like I used to walk nine miles to school.

708
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 4: You a liar, you.

709
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 6: Did walk mine after school.

710
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 4: But I understand what they're talking about now, I understand.

711
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so how do you feel about it?

712
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 3: Man?

713
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm a receiver. Man, I don't want to

714
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 4: say you don't want whatever you want, worry about all

715
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 4: that hitting. Nothing, don't touch me at all. You know,

716
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna still get out there and route you up,

717
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 4: and then at the same time I have to, you know,

718
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 4: anticipate that hit.

719
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 3: So I was just I felt like I was built

720
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 3: with that, you know, I was born to get hit

721
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 3: and get back up and say, all right, you gave

722
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: me your best stuff, you know what I mean.

723
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 4: So, and I think I said before That's.

724
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: Why I say I don't look for a lot of

725
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: stuff into guys when it comes to playing my position.

726
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 4: I want to see your dog, because I mean, your

727
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 4: receiver you're gonna catch.

728
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 3: You know, you don't have to be the best route runner,

729
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 3: but you're here for because you can get open. But

730
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: I want to see can you sustain or with you know,

731
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: take a couple of hitscross the middle from a London

732
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: Fletcher or Ray Lewis and have a guy like Fred

733
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 3: chirping at you in your ear and still be able

734
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: to go out there and go toe to toe with him.

735
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And you mentioned London Fletcher. Yep, it

736
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: was birthday over the weekend, low Green. He's looking good

737
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: these days anyway, So happy birthday, Fletch. But also we

738
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: gotta have stories about fletch Man. Yeah you got any

739
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: stories Tanning. Let's start with tenn and.

740
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: Then you know what, the only thing I just remember

741
00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: from fletch Man how he came every day aim the

742
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: word relentless.

743
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 4: You know what.

744
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say something about Fletch that probably you guys

745
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: didn't hear. Fletch came back, We did a show together.

746
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 3: He did my podcast a couple of years ago that

747
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 3: I had. I think it was pre pandemic. I had

748
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 3: the podcast and Fletch spoke and said, the one thing

749
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 3: I liked about Tanner was I watched him prepare and

750
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 3: get ready for practice every day, and he did the

751
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 3: same thing, and then he wanted the feeling did the

752
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: same thing. And I'm like, Fletch, I ain't know you

753
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: was watching me, say I watched you all the time

754
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 3: because you was a guy that didn't say a lot

755
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: you went out and did it, and.

756
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 4: That right there gave me.

757
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 3: I was always I've always gave him praise and respected him,

758
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: but I was kind of pleased to know that a

759
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: guy who I respected on the team and looked up

760
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: to was watching me and saw how I carried myself.

761
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: So that's one of the stars all share.

762
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 6: When I think about Fletch, is he just relentless.

763
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 5: He relentless in his study habits, He relentless in his rehab.

764
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 5: And when I first met him, and I first met him,

765
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 5: I was like, damn you what like? He just he

766
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 5: like better for me to hit people with. And ain't

767
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 5: I never forgot. We was playing against the New York Giants,

768
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 5: last game of the season. You know it get cold

769
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 5: in New York. Brandon Jacobs goes from two eighty to

770
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 5: three hundred by time we in December, and.

771
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 4: He just pounding me.

772
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 5: They just tossing the sweep, forcing me to hit him.

773
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 5: And one time he knocked my helm and off and

774
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 5: here comes London over there.

775
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 4: He's like you.

776
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 6: I was like, if we keep this up, I ain't

777
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 6: gonna be and then London said, don't.

778
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: Word, I get him for you.

779
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 5: Two three players later they ran him down the middle

780
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 5: and London just I didn't think len one of these

781
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 5: dudes was gonna get up like Landa.

782
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 4: Just he gets the dude.

783
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 6: It feels like an eighteen wheeling cockrash.

784
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 4: He jumps back up and say, that's for smooth. I said,

785
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 4: you know what you deserve to be in the Hall

786
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 4: of Fame. That's what I told you deserved, the Hall

787
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 4: of Fame. I got one more story about London, and

788
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 4: this is we both as on other teams.

789
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: I was with the Jets my second year as a Jet,

790
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 3: but my first year really playing, and Flesh was playing

791
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: with Buffalo with the Bills. Yep, and I run a

792
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 3: scene route, Like I said, this is my first year

793
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: really getting acclimated because you know, my first year as

794
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: a rookie, I was hurt.

795
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 4: I had a serious knee injury. So I catch the

796
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 4: scene route. I had to turn around for it. Chad

797
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 4: pinning and through it to me. I couldn't just catch

798
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 4: it up to see.

799
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: I turned around to turn my whole bike around, catches

800
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: it and I turn around and I know it was

801
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: a guy outside of me, but I don't want to look.

802
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: You know how they tell you not to look back,

803
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 3: So I'm kind of like feeling my periffic saying like, okay,

804
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: I know someone to the left, so let me veer

805
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: to the to the middle of the field because I'm

806
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: out running everybody, and I just get tripped up.

807
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 4: In the middle of the field and I look back.

808
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 4: It's a little.

809
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 6: Butterball linebacker and I'm like the three. I'm like, I'm like, the.

810
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: Linebacker just court me. So I went to the sideline.

811
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: Moe Lewis was like, so they say he fast. That

812
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 4: was a lineback of that court.

813
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: And I'm like, so, nah, I'm going to watch the

814
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: films see how he really caught me so low and

815
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: behold he was in like two under.

816
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 4: I mean to Tampa two. Tampa two.

817
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: He was already going dropping to the middle of the field,

818
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: but I kind of ran right into his thing. But

819
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: not only does that, he was fast too. So I

820
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: went through a couple of games feeling like that here

821
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: I might have lost. And then I realized London flats,

822
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: you know, he could run with some of the best guys.

823
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: So that's that's something me and him talked about being teammates.

824
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: Here.

825
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: We have to buy it, because I say, London, I

826
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: ain't gonna lie was checking myself like every week I'm

827
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: trying to outrun guys to make sure I still got

828
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: those gears.

829
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: Ye, dude. I remember the first time I came out

830
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: to practice with London, so you know, London was in

831
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: year thirteen, like he was, He's been around for a while,

832
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: and we were on the sideline and I remember he

833
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: went and he was in the middle of field and

834
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: chased running back down I think it was Clinton Porters.

835
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: Chased him down kind of a full tackle out of bounds,

836
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: did a cartwheel, jumped right up to his feet, and

837
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: then sprinted back to the huddle. And I was like,

838
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: it was like day four or five of training camp,

839
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: and I was like, man, he is a absolute machine.

840
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: Because I felt terrible, you know, And I was like,

841
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: this man's been banging heads like for a million years

842
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 2: and he just had that he just had that thing

843
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: to him, man.

844
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 5: And I just wish he was a better salesman. I

845
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 5: always told him that the only reacause him and Ray

846
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 5: Lewis numbers are identify They identical. But Ray is a salesman,

847
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 5: you understand, Like some guys say, here, look at me,

848
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 5: and now I can show you great and some guys

849
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 5: just say, you know what, I'm just great and I'm

850
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 5: just gonna.

851
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: Go do it. Well.

852
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 6: I always told down South for quiet mouth doesn't get fed.

853
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean that's a great segue. Like do

854
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: you think he deserves to be in the Hall Fame? Yeah?

855
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 5: I do think he no question, But we're gonna have

856
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 5: to sell him because he won't sell hisself.

857
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: And why should you, That's my thing. I don't I

858
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 3: don't feel like that's appropriate. If I got to tell

859
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: you that I can catch passes and you don't turn

860
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: the film and see that, that's.

861
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: A great point.

862
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 4: I shouldn't have to do that. And I told you

863
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 4: that I bring it back from experience.

864
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: No guy that goes out there and put it on

865
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 3: tape should have to go out there and tell you

866
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: what I put on tape.

867
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 4: It's there, Stop playing favorites.

868
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: Leave.

869
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 4: But we may see it.

870
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 5: But when you're seeing this campaign and go on for

871
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 5: what fifteen years, players look like Basselli and the Risky's guy.

872
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 5: I watched him campaign himself to the point that that

873
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 5: Bruce Smith had to say he don't deserve to be

874
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 5: in So I've seen this.

875
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: I watched receivers when I was sitting out that year,

876
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 3: right after my last year here in my fourteenth season.

877
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 4: I was sitting home just like.

878
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: Other receivers, and I watched what the kid name is?

879
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 3: The guy name is from New England that called the bass.

880
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: He's now Wes Welker west Walker had to go to

881
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: Twitter and say I'm still.

882
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 4: I'm on the market. I did this and did that

883
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 4: and then he got picked up. Wow, Wes Walker pull

884
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: on his film. You know what I'm saying. So a

885
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 4: guy hit me up on Instagram like Tanner, you need

886
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 4: to say, I wouldn't do it. That's not me.

887
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 3: I would not go out there and beg for nothing

888
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: because they always tell you to put good stuff on tape.

889
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 4: So getting back to London, he did that.

890
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: The number speaks for you know how they say numbers

891
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: don't lie and everything don't You could do the numbers there.

892
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: So while we have to sit here talk about this

893
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: man deserve credit the same way as a guy like

894
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: b Mitch, who's the second.

895
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 4: All time and you know all you know behind Jared

896
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 4: robson scribbles, you know what I mean, Like all Purple

897
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 4: Jars like it don't make it.

898
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 6: But Devin Hester will make it in before be mitched.

899
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 3: We undersaying that, but I'm just saying, bro like London,

900
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 3: Fletcher shouldn't have to be you should have to sit

901
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 3: here and talk about when or why he's not in there.

902
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 4: He needs to be in there.

903
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 5: Guys like I love like pat Rillis played that old miss.

904
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 5: He gonna be a guy that they throw up there.

905
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 5: He retired early, so it's gonna be so many guys

906
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 5: that they throw up there because this it's literally the

907
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame is.

908
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 4: Turning into a salesman competition right now.

909
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: It ain't about who the best, know, it's all about

910
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 3: the who who I can get in here with a

911
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 3: big enough name.

912
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 4: It's all about that that can make us.

913
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: Look good like you know, yeah, well I mean London,

914
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: great leader, great teammate, great player. Right, So, happy monthday,

915
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: Happy birthday, London.

916
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 4: Happy seventy third line.

917
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: Hopefully you're here for you and they love you and

918
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: that gold jacket. Sooner rather than later, he'd be pretty awesome,

919
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: seeing he definitely deserves it, all right, guys, I think

920
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: that's it for the show, all right, So be sure

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Speaker 2: to rate and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, and

922
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,960
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