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Speaker 1: time to look ahead for Week ten in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Week nine had some fireworks, some fun stuff, some crazy moments,
Speaker 1: good bad, ugly, some great matchups too. I think we're
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Speaker 1: Thursday nights too. But we're taking this Thursday off everybody
Speaker 1: because Joeyp's going on a little vacation. Now. Two guys
Speaker 1: will never take a break, Pat Fitz Morris My Patty
Speaker 1: Cakes and of course Derek Brown Debro the King of Bros.
Speaker 1: The Fantasy Bro coming over to betting Bro just for today.
Speaker 1: Sam Hoppin taking a day off, so I guess this
Speaker 1: is the season here, so bro, looking back at week nine,
Speaker 1: was there a certain circumstance that really kind of let's
Speaker 1: be negative, let's have some fun that ruined your weekend?
Speaker 2: It's always fun, man, when you hit the over for
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley's carries and you're like, well that's a stone lock. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then the entire offense falls apart. The game goes
Speaker 2: sideways and you're questioning everything that you thought you knew
Speaker 2: about life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds about right. Poor Daniel Jones, who he's
Speaker 1: gonna be out for the year, man, talk more about.
Speaker 1: But guy could not catch a break this year. Pat
Speaker 1: fitz Morris, let's spend some positivity. What worked out for
Speaker 1: you on Sunday that you felt really good about when
Speaker 1: you look back.
Speaker 3: I caught a huge break on under in Ravens Seahawks,
Speaker 3: where the Ravens decided to show the Seahawks mercy being
Speaker 3: right at the doorstep of yet another score at the
Speaker 3: very end of the game. And luckily, I swear to god,
Speaker 3: it took like the Ravens maybe like six minutes to
Speaker 3: go the last twenty yards of that drive like they
Speaker 3: easily could have scored again, and thank goodness, took the
Speaker 3: foot off the accelerator and got me that under bet.
Speaker 4: So that was a positive result for sure.
Speaker 1: Here you go. Mercy is not for the week, So
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Speaker 5: You to say two weeks in a row. I get
Speaker 5: left out right now. I almost did it to you twice.
Speaker 5: Third time's the chart. Let's get over to Thursday Night football. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so Carolinas one and seven.
Speaker 1: The Bears are two and seven. It's on Amazon Prime,
Speaker 1: which is annoying to have to switch over and I
Speaker 1: can't DVR it. So let's look at the lines over
Speaker 1: on BP and see if we can make some money
Speaker 1: on this one. The Bears are three and a half
Speaker 1: point favorites at minus one ten right now. Forty is
Speaker 1: the number you can get the Carolina Panthers plus one
Speaker 1: forty five, Debro. Since you're our guest today, we'll start
Speaker 1: with you on this one. So many bad looks, bad
Speaker 1: reads from Bryce Young. The pick sixes are not good.
Speaker 1: You can get Carolina at plus one fifty two on
Speaker 1: the money line at Fandel right now. But we don't
Speaker 1: know the status as of right now of mister one
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. Do you want to bet this now and
Speaker 1: hope that he plays on the Thursday in the short week,
Speaker 1: and do you think that's where the value is or
Speaker 1: do you wait potentially and see where things go from here?
Speaker 1: Because if you don't think Fields is gonna play Carolina
Speaker 1: on the money line is kind of interesting? Is the
Speaker 1: upset for me?
Speaker 2: I'm willing to take Chicago here to cover. I think
Speaker 2: that Justin Fields does have a realistic chance to play.
Speaker 2: But either way, what is Carolina shown us this year? Nothing?
Speaker 2: Bryce John has shown us nothing. This defense is in shambles.
Speaker 2: And even if it's Tyson Baigen under center, he went
Speaker 2: toe to toe with the Saints this last week, showed
Speaker 2: the rushing, showed the ability to play quarterback. Like I'm
Speaker 2: willing to say that the Chicago Bears cover. I mean,
Speaker 2: outside of that, the only other action I'll have on
Speaker 2: this game is probably betting the over for when Deontay
Speaker 2: Foreman's props come out. As far as rushing, rushing attempts
Speaker 2: and stuff, playing almost sixty percent of the snaps, but
Speaker 2: past that, I'm off this game.
Speaker 1: FITZI Brian Burns is probably not gonna play in this
Speaker 1: game either, that's a big loss in the Carolina defense
Speaker 1: and the Bears defense is played better of late. Do
Speaker 1: you see any value here on this Thursday Night contest?
Speaker 3: I can't say I do show it does seem like
Speaker 3: this line is maybe giving the Bears a little too
Speaker 3: much credit, and it does seem like it is kind
Speaker 3: of anticipating the return of Justin Fields.
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I mean, the Panthers were ahead
Speaker 4: of the.
Speaker 3: Bears and the Massy Peabody rankings going into Week nine,
Speaker 3: and even if that gap has closed up, like I
Speaker 3: think they'd still be pretty close to even for giving
Speaker 3: the Bears two points for home field. Like, maybe there's
Speaker 3: a little value on the Panthers, but it is hard,
Speaker 3: as Deebro mentioned, to back the Panthers with.
Speaker 4: Anything these days.
Speaker 3: And you know, although they did knock off the Texans
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, that was kind of an
Speaker 3: impressive win. But exactly, I'm probably not gonna bet this one, Like,
Speaker 3: I just can't give more than a field goal to anyone.
Speaker 4: With the Bears early.
Speaker 1: Money coming in on the Panthers too, I think people
Speaker 1: are starting to see what I see, which is, hey,
Speaker 1: take the Panthers and then if Fields doesn't play, then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that's a good value.
Speaker 4: But it's a little even if he does.
Speaker 3: Even if he does, Joe like the Panthers can beat
Speaker 3: the justin Field's bad well.
Speaker 2: I also mentioned here I think the unders in play
Speaker 2: because both these offenses have been terrible. The pace of
Speaker 2: this game is going to be disgusting too.
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts and New England Patriots will go to Germany
Speaker 1: Guten mordon. We did that the other day, so I
Speaker 1: learned a little German guten morton. So we have this
Speaker 1: game here, sitting at forty three and a half at
Speaker 1: minus one ten. You've got the New England Patriots one
Speaker 1: and a half point underdogs at minus won ten. The
Speaker 1: Pats a plus one ten on the money line. Fits
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick after this game, taking some questions here for
Speaker 1: the media. It was ugly. It was bad. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know they won two weeks ago, but it just
Speaker 1: seems like things are going in a really bad direction,
Speaker 1: very negative. Whereas the Colts, I feel like, are competitive
Speaker 1: in these games. What do you think about this one?
Speaker 1: I mean to me, I'm on the cult side of
Speaker 1: this one. In the early going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've talked about the Colts Joe being one of
Speaker 3: those vexing teams that I've been unable to get on
Speaker 3: the right side of all season long. So I guess
Speaker 3: I don't really like either side here. I just don't
Speaker 3: like betting against the Patriots as home dogs, even though
Speaker 3: you know I bet on the Patriots as home dogs. Wait, no,
Speaker 3: they were slight favorites against the Commanders.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how didn't work out, not at all.
Speaker 3: But then again, like they knocked off the Bills a
Speaker 3: few weeks ago, now they're really kind of squarely at home.
Speaker 3: I don't like either side, but the Colts have been
Speaker 3: a pretty reliable over team. Week nine notwithstanding, I thought
Speaker 3: the Panthers were gonna be able to keep up their
Speaker 3: end of the bargain and score enough to get that
Speaker 3: game over. It didn't happen. It was the Panther's fault,
Speaker 3: but I don't know. The Colts have gone over the
Speaker 3: total in four of their last six and six of
Speaker 3: their last nine games have gone over fifty points. The
Speaker 3: average point total of the Colts game this season is
Speaker 3: fifty two point seven, So I do kind of like
Speaker 3: the over here. I think I'm gonna bet the over,
Speaker 3: but I don't think I'm gonna bet either side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, debro, what's interesting here? Obviously the neutral site comes
Speaker 1: into play quite a bit, but still the you have
Speaker 1: to two of the Patriots, you know, not being able
Speaker 1: to find any consistency. The fact that they are underdogs
Speaker 1: in this game feels right to me. I like the
Speaker 1: Colts in the minus one and a half. At minus
Speaker 1: one fifteen you get a FanDuel. But what do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if I got to take a side here,
Speaker 2: I'll go with the Colts. I have no confidence in
Speaker 2: the Patriots. But my favorite bet out of this game,
Speaker 2: and I think fits hit hit the nail on the
Speaker 2: head here, is betting the over. We quietly have two
Speaker 2: teams that are top three in neutral pace, so I
Speaker 2: think the play volume and neither one of these defenses
Speaker 2: have been playing fantastic. Let's also throw that out there, like,
Speaker 2: I know, Kenny Moore house two touchdowns and you don't
Speaker 2: want to target the slot versus defense. The outside corners
Speaker 2: have still been up and down. I like the over
Speaker 2: in this game because I think the play volume is
Speaker 2: gonna be fantastic.
Speaker 1: All right, about the volume in this next one here,
Speaker 1: Green Bay and Pittsburgh coming up here. I got one
Speaker 1: word for you kids under unders. That's wharble. Thirty seven
Speaker 1: and a half is that number of my at minus
Speaker 1: went aw eight on FanDuel, green Bay's plus one sixty
Speaker 1: seven on the money line, Pittsburgh minus three and a
Speaker 1: half points over on DK one on five de bro.
Speaker 1: I know I'm kind of like quick to that and
Speaker 1: I'm being facetious, but it just neither of these offenses
Speaker 1: give me a lot of real confidence necessarily week to week.
Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers like to play, you know, all these
Speaker 1: kind of down and dirty games. A little bit you
Speaker 1: saw also the Christian Watson is gonna be dealing with
Speaker 1: an injury, so Green Bay is not gonna be one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. You got Jordan Love on the road Pittsburgh defense.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at this under to me, that's the
Speaker 1: best bet of this one. I think Pittsburgh can handle
Speaker 1: the three and a half. I would like it to
Speaker 1: be three, to be honest, like god like, but whatever, Well,
Speaker 1: beggars can't be choosers. What are your thoughts here on
Speaker 1: this one?
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Joe. I think I wish this opened
Speaker 2: at like two and a half.
Speaker 1: Or three.
Speaker 2: But I still think Pittsburgh can cover because the thing
Speaker 2: they do well is get after the quarterback, and the
Speaker 2: thing that Jordan Love can't handle is pressure. So he's
Speaker 2: gonna see one huge dose of TJ. Watt all up
Speaker 2: in his face all day. So I think Pittsburgh, Well,
Speaker 2: the money line has been good. Lord, it's been seduced
Speaker 2: by the juice. But looking at I mean minus one ninety, No,
Speaker 2: but you can give me to hope that the Steelers
Speaker 2: will cover in this one. I'm in on the under. Really,
Speaker 2: this comes down to I'm probably gonna attack this mostly
Speaker 2: with props. But I do also think that once we
Speaker 2: get the news that Christian Watson is out, we could
Speaker 2: see this line move a little bit more in the
Speaker 2: Steelers favor.
Speaker 1: Well here's the thing, Fitzy, this one did open at three,
Speaker 1: and now every book has added the hook. What do
Speaker 1: you make of that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think they're recognizing that the Packers'
Speaker 3: offense is pretty sickly and that it's hard to see
Speaker 3: them going to Pittsburgh and winning. I mean, I've been
Speaker 3: very guilty of over estimating the Steelers all season.
Speaker 1: So I'm you and me both brothers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, We've talked about this, Joe, I'm wary of that,
Speaker 6: but like I still considering that, I can't see the
Speaker 6: Packers winning this game.
Speaker 3: I think I am going to bet the Steelers, and Joe,
Speaker 3: if you're going to grab that under you better grab
Speaker 3: it fast. You mentioned it's thirty seven and a half
Speaker 3: on Fan Duel. It's already down to thirty seven on
Speaker 3: DraftKings as of late morning on Monday, and I could
Speaker 3: see this going down to thirty six.
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Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints and the Minnesota Vikings. The Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 1: aren't a roll. I'm feeling it, boys. Let's go. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be at home against the Saints. You know the
Speaker 1: Saints are, obviously, you know, a defense that continues to
Speaker 1: be steady. Here Taysom Hill continues to do Taysom Hill things.
Speaker 1: Forty one is the number. Here you have the Minnesota
Speaker 1: Vikings home under dogs at two and a half, which
Speaker 1: is always appealing minus one oh two o Ron DK
Speaker 1: can get that if you like Minnesota for the upset
Speaker 1: of plus one twenty five or a points bet. This
Speaker 1: one's really intriguing to me. Both teams are five and four. Derek,
Speaker 1: It's interesting narrative. It feels like the Minnesota Vikings have
Speaker 1: this good favor rolling and this confidence. The Josh Dobbs
Speaker 1: thing gave them this life. It feels like they're really
Speaker 1: coalescing and the Jefferson injury almost kind of united them
Speaker 1: to get Yeah, there is it enough though to bet
Speaker 1: them in this scenario at home week ten?
Speaker 2: I think it is. I was actually kind of surprised
Speaker 2: where this opened that I thought the line was gonna
Speaker 2: be closer. I feel like this is giving way too
Speaker 2: much credit to the minute to the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 2: With Minnesota's secondary playing better, they're gonna blitz they ever
Speaker 2: live in heck out of Derek Carr, He's been up
Speaker 2: and down. It's always an adventure with Derek Carr. Give
Speaker 2: me the Minnesota Vikings money line, especially a plus money,
Speaker 2: and I am intrigued by the over in this one,
Speaker 2: with Josh Jobs having a full week to actually learn
Speaker 2: all the names of the people around him. What can
Speaker 2: he do? And this Saints offense is starting to come together.
Speaker 2: So give me the over and I'll take a Minnesota
Speaker 2: money line.
Speaker 1: Okay, Minnesota money line. I like where Debro's head's at.
Speaker 1: It's two for two, for two, Pat, you want to
Speaker 1: make it three for three? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I like Debro's call on this one too. Minnesota is
Speaker 3: a tough place to play. And granted this is not
Speaker 3: like a star studded edition of the Vikings, but man
Speaker 3: like Brian Flores has really got that defense overachieving. The
Speaker 3: Saints defense has been really good too. But why do
Speaker 3: I also feel like the over is the right play here?
Speaker 3: I mean, this was supposed to be Josh Dobbs Vikings debut.
Speaker 3: He's already, as it turns out, had a week to
Speaker 3: dig his heels in and get comfortable, and he makes
Speaker 3: the Vikings kind of plucky on offensively plucky offensively. So
Speaker 3: at this low number I'm leaning over to It's it's
Speaker 3: just kind of a vibe. I know both of these
Speaker 3: teams have maybe been a little better defensively than offensively,
Speaker 3: but I think we're going to see points.
Speaker 1: In this one. The over is probably the safest bet
Speaker 1: of anything on here. I think if you're trying to
Speaker 1: have a little little bit more juice there, you take
Speaker 1: the Vikings on the money line. But I agree with
Speaker 1: you Fits, I think the safe bet here, or if
Speaker 1: you like individual props, you want to put something along
Speaker 1: with the game, you take the over, and then you
Speaker 1: take something you really like, whether now you know Madison
Speaker 1: might be that you know, now that Acres is out
Speaker 1: with that torn Achilles, you know, maybe some Madison propsy
Speaker 1: come a little bit easier to digest. Let's get to
Speaker 1: the next game on the slate here as a run
Speaker 1: through Week ten in the NFL. Having a good time here.
Speaker 1: The next one, we've got the Houston Texans and the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. Now, gentlemen Joe Burrow and c. J. Stroud
Speaker 1: looked really good on Sunday. This one, in theory, should
Speaker 1: be a very entertaining contest. The number forty seven and
Speaker 1: a half pretty pretty good. Minus one ten on FanDuel,
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals are seven point favorites at home. That
Speaker 1: feels right. I think the Bengals have earned that plus
Speaker 1: two to eighty over on the FanDuel side. Now that's
Speaker 1: for the Houston money line fits. I want to talk
Speaker 1: about this because there's that dangerous thing, and we talked
Speaker 1: about it last week.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 1: You know, just because the team looks great one week
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it travels around. The Cincinnati Bengals are starting
Speaker 1: to really look like the Cincinnati Bengals of old, that
Speaker 1: big time playoff team. The seven is a big number.
Speaker 1: I'm still here for it. The forty seven and a half,
Speaker 1: I think is pretty high. I'm actually staying away from
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go with Cincy in the seven. But Fitz,
Speaker 1: do you see anything different here in this game? Do
Speaker 1: you think forty seven and a half is a number
Speaker 1: that this game can go over?
Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I'm not betting the total
Speaker 3: this one. I think the total is pretty spot on.
Speaker 3: But I'm kind of with you and the Bengals, Joe.
Speaker 3: They like they've got it together. They are rolling. They
Speaker 3: look like the AFC Super Bowl contender that we've seen
Speaker 3: the last couple of years. And I do find it
Speaker 3: interesting that this game opened up on DraftKings at plus
Speaker 3: eight for the Texans and was quickly bet down to
Speaker 3: like money must have come flowing in on the Texans
Speaker 3: right off the bat, and it got down to seven
Speaker 3: really quickly. But seven is a number one.
Speaker 1: Good thing for everybody who wants to bet Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And I'm pretty comfortable with it. At Bengals
Speaker 3: minus seven, I think I want to hit that now
Speaker 3: before it goes up again and you have to throw
Speaker 3: a hook in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'll tell you what too. This is why you're
Speaker 1: watching betting pros, this is why you're subscribe to the channel.
Speaker 1: Three weeks ago, I think I think it was before
Speaker 1: the San Francisco game. I it was my number one
Speaker 1: bet of the week, which was the plus five hundred
Speaker 1: on Cincinnati to win the AFC North, and I said,
Speaker 1: you're never gonna see this number again if they bet
Speaker 1: if they win against San Francisco, and then it went
Speaker 1: to three fifty. I didn't look at it what it
Speaker 1: is this morning. I'm gonna check it right now. But
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's like, you have to say, all right,
Speaker 1: you're in a position now if Cincinnati runs a couple
Speaker 1: of these big games, if they go and beat San Francisco,
Speaker 1: they beat Buffalo, what does that number look like. I
Speaker 1: don't care what the Ravens are doing. I don't care
Speaker 1: who they're beating up on, the Arizona Cardinals and teams
Speaker 1: like that. I care about the Bengals beating the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers. I care about the Bengals beating the Bills.
Speaker 1: That says to me that team is ready. Trey Hendrickson
Speaker 1: being back to has been such a huge piece for
Speaker 1: this defense. On that that defensive line get into the
Speaker 1: quarterback making things happen. Debro any final thoughts on this
Speaker 1: contest here? How do you want to approach it?
Speaker 2: I'm in locks up with you, guys. I thought I
Speaker 2: thought you were gonna mention how we bet or we
Speaker 2: both bet the Cincinnati Bengals money line against San Francisco,
Speaker 2: which was.
Speaker 1: Oh we did that too, Oh we did that too.
Speaker 2: That was what was a joe plus two ten at
Speaker 2: one point?
Speaker 1: Like it was plus two ten. I think I got it.
Speaker 1: Plus two forty is what I got.
Speaker 2: Oh it was so nice, man. But I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I think the Bengals cover this number. I'm intrigued by
Speaker 2: the under in this game. Cincinnati has been rolling. If
Speaker 2: they get to the over, I think it's because the
Speaker 2: Bengals just mollywop them in this one. But I'm curious
Speaker 2: what the line does if it goes up. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: let this kind of simmer. I'm curious that this line
Speaker 2: continues to go up a little bit, and then I'm
Speaker 2: gonna hammer the under later in the week depending on.
Speaker 1: What it does. Still good value the Bengals on FanDuel
Speaker 1: plus three twenty to win that division. Baltimore's minus one
Speaker 1: forty five. It is wrong that it gets wrong. That's
Speaker 1: absolutely right. Go better right now, folks. You know what.
Speaker 1: It's going back in the video again. It's going back
Speaker 1: in the video again tomorrow because the people need to know.
Speaker 1: I have to be the voice of the people. Let's
Speaker 1: get to the next TikTok superstar, Joey p I'm an
Speaker 1: influencer if nothing else. The Cleveland Browns Baltimore Ravens. Again,
Speaker 1: all credit to Baltimore. They are handling their business. Offense
Speaker 1: is starting to jive here with the new play calling
Speaker 1: and then everything going on here in the new OC.
Speaker 1: Baltimore's six point favorites at home against this Cleveland defense,
Speaker 1: that is for real. You can get minus one oh
Speaker 1: five on Baltimore DK. You get minus one ten over
Speaker 1: on the plus six side Cleveland. Thirty eight and a
Speaker 1: half is the number everywhere here for this game pretty
Speaker 1: much right now, plus two twenty on the Cleveland side
Speaker 1: for the upset debro. The Baltimore Ravens continue to be
Speaker 1: that team that kind of plays up and down to
Speaker 1: the competition. Now, Seattle was kind of a weird one
Speaker 1: where I feel like that was almost like a mid
Speaker 1: so I guess this is to me where Baltimore starts
Speaker 1: to really prove itself winning these big Indivision games because
Speaker 1: they came up short against the Steelers. These are the
Speaker 1: games you have to win. What do you think about
Speaker 1: this contest? You see the early value on the betting side.
Speaker 2: I think that this is giving way too much credit
Speaker 2: to the Cleveland Browns and their defense. This line should
Speaker 2: be seven seven and a half. I think I'm willing
Speaker 2: to say the Raven's going to cover this at home.
Speaker 2: I'm staying away from the total. I think it's good,
Speaker 2: but I think Baltimore evens just stomp the Browns in
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah see, I tend to go that way too, But Fitz,
Speaker 1: I've learned one thing in all of these years, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, some times when it looks like this too
Speaker 1: good to be true, Like the real value on this
Speaker 1: game is to go bet the Browns, Like that's where
Speaker 1: the value lies. There's no doubt about that. And I
Speaker 1: know it's Oh, I get it, it's so gross. But
Speaker 1: if you're the Browns, what you have to do is
Speaker 1: defensively contain Lamar Jackson, make him beat you throwing in
Speaker 1: the football, and continue to sack and rush that passer. Now,
Speaker 1: Lamar's a little slippery, That's that's true. But pat to me,
Speaker 1: the value on this game is the brown side, which
Speaker 1: I know it's gross, like Derek is alluding to, and
Speaker 1: I'm with you, but I might even watch this one
Speaker 1: and bet it in game live because I feel like
Speaker 1: that is something. If you see that Browns come out
Speaker 1: then looking like that team that played the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: right or leaving the team that came out yesterday, that
Speaker 1: energized Browns team, that's a tough team to beat anywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, although you know the Cardinals are such a punching bag,
Speaker 3: Like I don't feel like we can take that much
Speaker 3: away from that game, especially with Clayton Tune at quarterback.
Speaker 1: But you know what, they should have beaten the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 1: They had that game in their grasp. That was a
Speaker 1: road game they beat San Francisco, you know, and they're
Speaker 1: doing it with subpar quarterback play at times. But I
Speaker 1: keep coming back to, like, this is one of those
Speaker 1: games that you know it's going to be nasty. It's
Speaker 1: an indivision AFC North kind of grinding game, and I
Speaker 1: think that style favors Cleveland because of the defense.
Speaker 2: Where I agree with you in Baltimore.
Speaker 4: Where I agree with see.
Speaker 3: Where I agree with you on this show is that
Speaker 3: you know, like I think the Ravens are the more
Speaker 3: complete and the better team, but this game, with these defenses,
Speaker 3: I do see this as being a classic AFC North
Speaker 3: rock fight kind of game, and six points is too
Speaker 3: much to give up in a rock fight. And like,
Speaker 3: I just kind of have a policy where I do
Speaker 3: not bet against the Ravens when they're at home. It's
Speaker 3: either bet four layoff, and it's probably going to be
Speaker 3: a layoff. I was mildly interested in the under here
Speaker 3: when it was thirty nine and a half to open.
Speaker 3: It's already gone down to thirty eight and a half,
Speaker 3: and I'm not quite as comfortable with it. They're so
Speaker 3: I'm probably just gonna enjoy this as sort of a
Speaker 3: classic AFC North defensive struggle and not bet at at all.
Speaker 1: Well, let's see if you can enjoy the battle of
Speaker 1: two three and five teams in Tampa Bay. The Buccaneers
Speaker 1: are going to host the Tennessee Titans. Will Levis with
Speaker 1: a little bit extra time to prepare for this one.
Speaker 1: Give Levis credit. You know Pittsburgh, he got down to
Speaker 1: that last play and then he threw the picky. You know,
Speaker 1: bog and I were talking on that thursdaynight football game.
Speaker 1: I said, look, there's just too many negatives against Levis here,
Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks, short week on the road against the Seilers,
Speaker 1: like there was just and you know what, we got
Speaker 1: it right. Bogman hit four out of his five props
Speaker 1: that night, and I hit the three, and that's it.
Speaker 1: Like that, we crush that game. Now it's time to
Speaker 1: crush this one. Titans Tampa. I know here, you're getting
Speaker 1: basically a pick them. I like Tampa. On this side.
Speaker 1: It's one point minus one ten over the minus one
Speaker 1: side of Tampa. That's on DraftKings. Thirty eight and a
Speaker 1: half is the over under the money line for tennesseet
Speaker 1: fandels two DKs at minus one fifteen. So Vegas is
Speaker 1: telling you this game is a pick him, and I'm pat.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna pick Tampa and I'm gonna pick the
Speaker 1: home team with Baker Mayfield coming off of a bad
Speaker 1: loss there where I think the defense kind of grabs
Speaker 1: itself up by the Haunches and has a better showing
Speaker 1: here against Will Levis. What do you think.
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Joe. The Buccaneers just have not finished
Speaker 3: well lately. They've lost three straight, but all of them
Speaker 3: have been one score games, two of them by a
Speaker 3: field goal, and the Bucks do seem to play a
Speaker 3: lot of these close games. I just feel like this
Speaker 3: line is giving Levis too much credit. And I understand
Speaker 3: the enthusiasm, like he immediately has looked like he belongs
Speaker 3: in the NFL. But rookie quarterbacks are still gonna make mistakes.
Speaker 3: And while the Buccaneers are, you know, like certainly not
Speaker 3: one of the better teams in the league, they're not
Speaker 3: an NFL doormat. And it just seems like giving too
Speaker 3: much credit to the Titans to have them be almost
Speaker 3: to pick them in a road game against the Bucks.
Speaker 4: So I agree with you. I like the box here.
Speaker 1: I'll say this too. I think I'm very comfortable going
Speaker 1: up there to let's say, like right now, on the
Speaker 1: alternate spread on fandle you can get at minus three
Speaker 1: and a half at plus one forty like I'm comfortable,
Speaker 1: And if you don't want to go that far, you
Speaker 1: can get minus two and a half at plus one
Speaker 1: oh four. I can move the needle just a little bit,
Speaker 1: get plus money and just take that, because I think
Speaker 1: that is the best way to approach this game. Debro,
Speaker 1: what do you think?
Speaker 2: Absolutely agree? You bet the all line and I think
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay's gonna cover this. And the other part about
Speaker 2: this is as news trickles out, I think we could
Speaker 2: see this line move more in the Buccaneers favor because
Speaker 2: none of us project that Traylon Burks is probably gonna
Speaker 2: play this week. Now, that's probably not gonna be the
Speaker 2: needle mover. But the other side of that is DeAndre
Speaker 2: Hopkins is not fully healthy. He's been dealing with a
Speaker 2: toe issue. If anything comes out midweek about oh, maybe
Speaker 2: he's more doubtful to play. Who the heck is Will
Speaker 2: Levis throwing to? And yes, this line is giving Tampa
Speaker 2: Bay at home. This line is giving way too much
Speaker 2: credit to Will Levis. So give me Tampa Bay outright
Speaker 2: to win this game, and I agree Betett right now
Speaker 2: with them at minus one or a pick them. I
Speaker 2: think Tampa Bay wins this game.
Speaker 1: And I think the cover. That's my favorite thing. The
Speaker 1: best thing that came out of that Will Levis debut
Speaker 1: was the three touchdowns and all of this, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. Nobody could believe it. But let's
Speaker 1: not forget the reason why we couldn't believe it. I
Speaker 1: think everybody has. And that's what Bogwin and I were trying.
Speaker 1: We were trying to check the privilege. That's what we're
Speaker 1: trying to do. And Thursday night, damn it, we checked
Speaker 1: the privilege and I want to check it again here
Speaker 1: checking privileges. That's what we do here at betting Pros.
Speaker 1: Let's get to another game here. Can the San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty nine er stopped the bleeding in Jacksonville five and
Speaker 1: three going to Jacksonville six and two, Jacksonville three point
Speaker 1: underdogs at home at minus one oh five, man is
Speaker 1: attempting debro. Forty five is the number for this one.
Speaker 1: Minus won ten in the under over at bet MGM
Speaker 1: forty five and a half over on fand what minus
Speaker 1: won ten. If you like Jacksonville for the upset at
Speaker 1: plus one forty five at points bet, you can get
Speaker 1: it there. Debro look, San Fran looked like first class
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they got bumped down
Speaker 1: to coach. And now I think this is where you
Speaker 1: got to figure out where you are if you're the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, because the headspace I feel like is
Speaker 1: a little iffy at this point. So do you think
Speaker 1: Jacksonville has it in them for this kind of upset
Speaker 1: or do the forty nine ers get right?
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can confidently say that Jacksonville
Speaker 2: can upset them. I don't disagree that they've been bumped
Speaker 2: down to coach. They're riding in the middle seat, somebody's
Speaker 2: reclined back on them, and they're just questioning life and
Speaker 2: all their choices. I agree with all of that. I
Speaker 2: think the way that I want to attack this game
Speaker 2: with I think Deebo Samuel's gonna be back this week,
Speaker 2: and I think that's gonna be a big boost to
Speaker 2: this offense for me. I'm staying away from the sides.
Speaker 2: What I like here is the over in this game.
Speaker 2: I think that this game could be a shootout. If
Speaker 2: San Francisco gets right, I think Jacksonville can push back
Speaker 2: on the other side against what we've seen be more
Speaker 2: of a porous San Francisco forty Niners defense.
Speaker 1: They are giving well. Now they've added Chase Young, so
Speaker 1: we'll see what that pass rush look.
Speaker 2: But even with the pass rush, secondary has been more
Speaker 2: poorishe you can get at them? I think I like
Speaker 2: the over in this game.
Speaker 1: You know, to Derek's point, Pat, you know, when you
Speaker 1: have Dee Deebo Samuel in the game, party's numbers are
Speaker 1: markedly different. Uh, the splits with that, It's like the
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones splits with and without Saquon Barkley. So if
Speaker 1: you have that in this one here, I start to
Speaker 1: lean towards the individual rock party props here because I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be low after these last couple of
Speaker 1: weeks that I think that is a great opportunity of
Speaker 1: deep if if Deebo's healthy. So you're gonna wait till
Speaker 1: Friday for this one, have to wait for the Friday
Speaker 1: show for it. But in your opinion, Pat, how do
Speaker 1: you see this one, because both of these teams I
Speaker 1: think you can throw on them. That's gonna be the
Speaker 1: interesting part. Do you think that tends to an over?
Speaker 1: Do you see any value there?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: How do you how do you parse this game?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think that the total is about right, and but
Speaker 3: I do kind of like those Rock Party overs if
Speaker 3: Deebo does in fact play, And it seems like things
Speaker 3: are trending towards debo playing.
Speaker 4: But we've got two streaking teams here.
Speaker 3: We've got the forty nine Ers who've dumped three straight,
Speaker 3: and the Jaguars have won five straight. And I mean,
Speaker 3: although I don't think anyone considers the Jaguars like legitimate
Speaker 3: Super Bowl contenders, I do think they have stamped themselves
Speaker 3: as a legitimate AFC playoff team. I still don't think
Speaker 3: there's much disputing that the forty nine Ers are the
Speaker 3: better team, however, although maybe Jags fans would dispute it.
Speaker 3: So I'm leaning slightly towards betting the Niners here to
Speaker 3: end their three game losing streak.
Speaker 4: I just think this team is.
Speaker 3: Too good to lose four straight and coming off the buy,
Speaker 3: hopefully that gave them time to patch up some of
Speaker 3: the holes in the secondary and get the defense right again.
Speaker 4: But I kind of like the Niners here, all right.
Speaker 1: Next game on the slate here, we got the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers at home. We'll see what they do tonight
Speaker 1: against the New York Jets. This is that Monday when
Speaker 1: we're recording this. Plus one and a half minus one
Speaker 1: ten on DK. The Los Angeles Chargers at home against
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. Lions coming off of bye here, they
Speaker 1: are favorites, as they should be. I don't think their
Speaker 1: favorites by enough. I know that sounds a little kooky
Speaker 1: considering you know, they kind of got their rear end
Speaker 1: handed to them, but they've had some time to think
Speaker 1: about what they did wrong. Maybe you get David Montgomery
Speaker 1: back in this game. I'm still waiting on news for that.
Speaker 1: Forty eight and a half is the number pretty much
Speaker 1: everywhere here. Plus one ten for the Los Angeles Chargers.
Speaker 1: Pat The Chargers have no home field advantage. They are,
Speaker 1: you know, they're an army without a country. They are
Speaker 1: this team that continuously lets you down. I would again,
Speaker 1: I can't find the alternate spreads because they're not up
Speaker 1: right now for this game. In particularly because the Chargers
Speaker 1: play tonight, but I would say this. I would no
Speaker 1: matter what happens tonight. I don't care if the Chargers
Speaker 1: win this game tonight against the Jets. I still don't
Speaker 1: like this number here. For the Charger side, I would
Speaker 1: tease this one. Try to get it to three or so.
Speaker 1: For the Lions, what do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Chargers still can't close. Joe coffee is for closers,
Speaker 3: no coffee for the Chargers.
Speaker 1: So that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm taking the Lions here. I've bet this one already.
Speaker 3: You've got the team coming off the bye well rested,
Speaker 3: probably getting David Montgomery back this week, and going against
Speaker 3: the team that's gonna be on short rest after the
Speaker 3: Monday night game in what's probably gonna be a hard
Speaker 3: fought and physical game against the Jets.
Speaker 4: I love the Lions here.
Speaker 1: I love a good Glenn Gary Glenn Ross reference. That's
Speaker 1: what I love. And for those of you who have
Speaker 1: never seen the play or the movie, you should. You
Speaker 1: should find it. It's great, fantastic performances. Al Pacino sell
Speaker 1: in real estate. I got a piece of land I
Speaker 1: want to sell you. I want you to take a
Speaker 1: look at this. It's a good deal. It's a good
Speaker 1: deal for everybody. We're gonna make so much money here.
Speaker 1: But the fun fact, the Alec Baldwin character in that
Speaker 1: movie who comes in does that amazing monologue. It's not
Speaker 1: in the play. They wrote it just for Alec Baldwin
Speaker 1: to show up that day and be in the movie.
Speaker 1: Fun facts. Here at betting pros and again people he's like,
Speaker 1: what wire you talking about? Just go look for it.
Speaker 1: It's great. It's a dude movie. It's a true dude movie.
Speaker 1: Derek Brown, you're a dude. What do you make of
Speaker 1: this game?
Speaker 2: But you're going to bring up in this entire schools.
Speaker 1: The problem is again Glengarry Glenn Ross is not a
Speaker 1: PG film necessarily to the way they talk to each other.
Speaker 1: So any quotes that I could lend here, uh would?
Speaker 2: He's gonna tell your Paccino story. Your Pacino story is
Speaker 2: very good, but we don't.
Speaker 1: I met out a couple of times. He's very small,
Speaker 1: but he's got a big head. That is as it is.
Speaker 1: It is. He has a huge head. I don't know
Speaker 1: how it stays on top of his body. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: He just had a kid. He's like eighty years old.
Speaker 1: He just had a kid god blessed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just that man.
Speaker 1: His girl friends like in her thirties, Al Pacino, Robert
Speaker 1: de Niro. These guys are like eighty years old, having.
Speaker 2: Man, let's go off.
Speaker 1: You want to legost lego? All right, let's let's caf
Speaker 1: What do we have? Yeah, let's talking about Lord.
Speaker 2: I think we're still somewhere in the midst of the
Speaker 2: Lions and Chargers. Uh yeah, I'm with paddle this one.
Speaker 2: Give me the Lions. I think all spreads are definitely
Speaker 2: in play here. I think the total is spot on.
Speaker 2: If anything, I think the Lions could slow this down
Speaker 2: and drag the Chargers down, so the under in this
Speaker 2: one is actually more in play for me. But I
Speaker 2: think the Lions take this one.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 2: The Chargers, Yeah, they get no coffee, they cannot close,
Speaker 2: they fall on their face. I think it's gonna happen
Speaker 2: again at home this week. Now.
Speaker 1: You haven't seen The Godfather? Have you seen Glenn Garry
Speaker 1: Glenn Ross?
Speaker 2: At least I have seen that, And no I have
Speaker 2: not seen The Godfather. But you take a little bit
Speaker 2: of ownership for this. Joe, I was up in Jersey.
Speaker 1: I'm staying at the we just had no turn, no time.
Speaker 2: Here's the excuses.
Speaker 1: We were at the draft, a big talk. I was
Speaker 1: too busy embarrassing you and Madden. That's what's too busy doing.
Speaker 2: You don't want to talk about your three losses.
Speaker 1: You don't want to talk about Alea Pacheco running for
Speaker 1: three eighty five on you. You know what, we don't need
Speaker 1: those screenshots, So I don't even in my life have
Speaker 1: a screenshot to prove it that Atlanta Falcons head over
Speaker 1: to aaron Zona, Arizona. You can get plus two and
Speaker 1: a half over on BETMGM at minus one ten. You
Speaker 1: can get Atlanta at minus one and a half at
Speaker 1: minus one ten over on DK, So this game is
Speaker 1: all over the map here. Forty one and a half
Speaker 1: is the number you can get at bet MGM, forty
Speaker 1: two over on DK. Everyone's just trying to figure this
Speaker 1: out because we don't know if Kyler Murray's gonna play
Speaker 1: plus one ten on the money line for Arizona right now.
Speaker 1: That's the best number you get it. But bet MGM
Speaker 1: debro we anticipate Kyler Murray's returned this week. I think
Speaker 1: that feels about right. So not being said, do we
Speaker 1: want to jump on this one ten now before that
Speaker 1: news comes out.
Speaker 2: I think it's in play. I would like this number
Speaker 2: if it was a little bit higher. Honestly, my favorite
Speaker 2: play in this game is just hitting me over. We've
Speaker 2: seen theirs on a Cardinals y fans can't stop anybody
Speaker 2: through the air on the ground. This number is going
Speaker 2: to go up as soon as we get news. And
Speaker 2: I fully believe that Kyler Murray will play this week.
Speaker 2: This has been my thought the entire time that if
Speaker 2: this team wants to put Kyler Murray and won a
Speaker 2: spot to succeed in his first game back, you're not
Speaker 2: running him out there versus the Browns of the Ravens,
Speaker 2: as well as his trade value if they do want
Speaker 2: to trade him this offseason, You're not going to put
Speaker 2: him out there in his first game. So I think
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray does play, and for me, my favorite one
Speaker 2: is just betting the over and moving on.
Speaker 1: Okay, bet in the over, moving on, Pat, how do
Speaker 1: you want to take this one?
Speaker 3: I'll take the Cardinals' home dogs, Joe, and you can
Speaker 3: interest me in that money line going against the Falcons.
Speaker 3: Where is the Falcons morale going to be after losing
Speaker 3: that damn to the Vikings as maybe better if they
Speaker 3: get rid of Arthur Smith, that would be great. And
Speaker 3: like I'm a Packers fan, I can't stand the Vikings.
Speaker 3: I was cheering for the Vikings to pull off that
Speaker 3: upset yesterday, like that was yeah. So I think the
Speaker 3: Cardinals can win this game absolutely with Kyler Murray at quarterback.
Speaker 3: And I do think we're going to see Kyler back so.
Speaker 1: And people wanted to give crap for Bejon's fumble. Look,
Speaker 1: Bijon is a guy. He's carrying the football twenty five times.
Speaker 1: He needs to be in a rhythm. And I don't
Speaker 1: make excuse for him, but like, enough is enough already.
Speaker 1: If we're not gonna use John Robinson, why we spend
Speaker 1: the draft capital on him? It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Roll that same clip for Drake Clundon and Kyle Pitt's baby,
Speaker 2: and Arthur Smith has nothing to hide behind, because guess what.
Speaker 2: You can't pander to the media about the w's you're
Speaker 2: getting this week, buddy, it's.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's it's like Chris Farley and
Speaker 1: Tommy Boy is like I'm like JoJo's the idiot's circus. Boy,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. I get all excited.
Speaker 1: I get a fleasant like. That's what he feels like.
Speaker 1: He's Jojoe the idiot circus boy, that's what he is
Speaker 1: at this point. He doesn't know what to do with
Speaker 1: any of the toys that we've given him. And he's
Speaker 1: got really good toys. Learn to play with them the
Speaker 1: right way.
Speaker 2: I just want him gone. I want to see victory cigars.
Speaker 2: I want to see vibes all out out of the falcons.
Speaker 1: Antonio Pearce is my spirit animal. All right, Let's get
Speaker 1: to Washington, Seattle. Seattle goes back home to the great
Speaker 1: Northwest here locking their wounds after just a butt kicking.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest by the ravens, and we'll see who
Speaker 1: shows up there. Washington. Let's you go against Philly goes
Speaker 1: on the road, upsets New England. In New England, they're
Speaker 1: still six and a half point underdogs. The though to
Speaker 1: travel to Seattle, which is really interesting. Minus one tens
Speaker 1: that number forty five, forty five and a half. That's
Speaker 1: where this range of the total is plus two thirty
Speaker 1: on the money line. FITZI, you might call me crazy here,
Speaker 1: kind of like Washington to go in there and handle
Speaker 1: their business against Seattle, which I know sounds insane, but
Speaker 1: I just I don't get this whole Seattle like Seattle
Speaker 1: is mid to me, and those teams always scare me.
Speaker 1: So whenever I have a mid team, I'm gonna look
Speaker 1: what the value of the line is. And the value
Speaker 1: of the line is clearly on the Washington side. But
Speaker 1: maybe you see this one differently.
Speaker 4: I do see it differently than you, guys. I'm afraid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I don't want to give Seattle too much credit,
Speaker 3: but this defense has been pretty respectable. And although Gino
Speaker 3: has not been the Geno of early twenty twenty two,
Speaker 3: like I think he's kind of reverted to early career Gino,
Speaker 3: I still think they can beat the Commanders. And I
Speaker 3: was expecting a dud performance by the Commanders last week
Speaker 3: after getting rid of Montese sweat and Chase Young, and
Speaker 3: I seem to doubt Sam Howell at all the wrong times.
Speaker 3: He went out and had a pretty good game against
Speaker 3: the But this is still a guy who makes a
Speaker 3: lot of mistakes leads the leads the NFL in Sacks
Speaker 3: has thrown nine interceptions in nine games. Now they're traveling
Speaker 3: cross country to Seattle, which I think is gonna be
Speaker 3: uh circling the wagons after let's just say, not their
Speaker 3: finest effort in Baltimore in week nine. So I'm actually
Speaker 3: willing to lay the points here and take Seattle, I think.
Speaker 3: But I think a lot of people are gonna be
Speaker 3: thinking the way you guys are, and I wouldn't be
Speaker 3: surprised to see the line drop, which is why I'm
Speaker 3: not taking it yet. I think it could go down
Speaker 3: to like five, and in that case, I'll be bouncing
Speaker 3: on Seattle pretty vigorously.
Speaker 2: Debro what side of the game that you want with
Speaker 2: any I'm on the I'm on the Commander side. For me,
Speaker 2: looking at the plus two fifteen right now on the
Speaker 2: money line for the Commanders, that's a side of one.
Speaker 2: I get Seattle is at home, and yes, the defense
Speaker 2: has been good. This is a This offense stays in
Speaker 2: games every single week. So even if you don't want
Speaker 2: to bet the money line for the Commanders, take the
Speaker 2: over here. We talked about Seattle's defense has played good,
Speaker 2: but Commanders have put up points. They've been in every
Speaker 2: single game. If you can hang with the Eagles, you
Speaker 2: can hang with the freaking Seahawks. So that's the way
Speaker 2: I'm approaching this game. I like the over is my
Speaker 2: favorite bet in this game, but I am willing to
Speaker 2: put some keshe down on the Commander's money line.
Speaker 1: All Right, We'll see how you feel about this next one,
Speaker 1: because this one's a doozy. It's a big number of folks.
Speaker 1: It is fifteen and a half to sixteen right now,
Speaker 1: and the number is, of course, the Dallas Cowboys at
Speaker 1: home against the New York Giants. I assume it's Tommy
Speaker 1: DeVito playing quarterback, so I get it. I mean it
Speaker 1: feels like the Giant season is over at this point,
Speaker 1: which is two and seven, probably true. Look, Dallas, Dallas
Speaker 1: hung in there, so like I'll take the I'll take
Speaker 1: a tiny little l, tiny little l on that because
Speaker 1: they said the Eagles are gonna blow their doors off,
Speaker 1: they didn't blow their doors off.
Speaker 2: You were not in on Dak Prescott this last week.
Speaker 1: You said he was all and did Dak Prescot step
Speaker 1: out of bounds instead of explaining the session, did Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott not throw a ball in the end zone on
Speaker 1: the last play.
Speaker 2: Of the game, and that closing play sequence could not
Speaker 2: have gone worse?
Speaker 1: Closing place like here's why I love the Eagles, and
Speaker 1: here's why I bets at the beginning of the year
Speaker 1: at plus seven hundred to go back to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: The reason why is because there's no other team in
Speaker 1: the NFC to me that plays upfront on both sides
Speaker 1: of the football the way the Eagles do. That offensive
Speaker 1: line is tough and the defensive line is tough. And
Speaker 1: if you can play on the if you play that
Speaker 1: kind of brand of football, you're gonna win football games
Speaker 1: in the NFL. That being said, let's take a look
Speaker 1: at this one here, Dallas right now with this big
Speaker 1: line here, thirty nine and a half is the number
Speaker 1: plus eight seventy for a Giants upset. Not gonna go there.
Speaker 1: It's a minus one thousand already on DK for this game.
Speaker 1: One thing I will say, Pat, if you don't think
Speaker 1: Dallas completely blows them out and just kind of takes
Speaker 1: their foot off the gas a little on Fandle they
Speaker 1: have that you know, winning margin four way plus one
Speaker 1: seventy five for Dallas to win between one and thirteen points.
Speaker 1: That's interesting take on this game. What do you think
Speaker 1: about that? Pat?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 3: I mean, because like I you can't bet the Giants
Speaker 3: with Tommy Devine, Like, their implied point total in this
Speaker 3: game is thirteen and a half and it's hard to
Speaker 3: kind it's hard to argue it should be any higher
Speaker 3: than that, right, I mean like they might need a
Speaker 3: defensive touchdown.
Speaker 4: To get there.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't necessarily love laying fifteen and a
Speaker 3: half points with anyone in the NFL, but I'm certainly
Speaker 3: not betting the Giants. So that is an interesting bet.
Speaker 3: Joe at that, what was what were the odds on
Speaker 3: that winning one?
Speaker 1: One seventy five win between one and thirteen, So basically
Speaker 1: like it's basically yeah, so not cover. But the thing
Speaker 1: about that is it's like, Okay, you could still have
Speaker 1: this game well in check and just kind of take
Speaker 1: your foot out of the gas and take starters out
Speaker 1: in the third, like if it just becomes one of these,
Speaker 1: you know, with the defense, like you know, if they're
Speaker 1: a little i don't know, slow out of the gate. Like,
Speaker 1: it's just an interesting thing because you're giving yourself such
Speaker 1: a wide positive range of outcomes and positive mind. To me,
Speaker 1: that's the way to approach this game and not muck
Speaker 1: around with the sixteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not messing with anything from this game outside
Speaker 2: of your bet, Joe, and I'm just going to wait
Speaker 2: until the props get released and just bad seedee lamb
Speaker 2: overs because they get their cash and every week, Baby.
Speaker 1: We can't have a week in the NFL without a
Speaker 1: New York team in a primetime game. So the Jets
Speaker 1: are gonna go to Las Vegas because I hate life
Speaker 1: and we're gonna see this one here. And look, I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I'm drinking the kool aid. I mean,
Speaker 1: comic crazy. I don't know why Antonio Pierce got me
Speaker 1: fired up. I don't know if it's gonna carry over.
Speaker 1: The Jets defense. A very different piece here you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: But asking Zach Wilson to go over there and cover
Speaker 1: two and a half on the road is intriguing to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he could do it. Thirty six
Speaker 1: and a half to thirty seven is the number you're
Speaker 1: getting for this one. I like Vegas plus one eighteen
Speaker 1: on the money line, Derek, what do you think?
Speaker 2: Yep? I'm taking Vegas money line, man. I think Antonioppiers
Speaker 2: got them fired up, and this is not to besmirch
Speaker 2: with the Jets. Have been doing. They're reeling off wins,
Speaker 2: and they're doing it a lot with their defense. This
Speaker 2: is an easy spot where you could see the Raiders
Speaker 2: can continued to be fired up and Zach Wilson implode,
Speaker 2: especially on the road. So yeah, give me the Raiders.
Speaker 2: I'm staying away from the line and the total and stuff,
Speaker 2: but Raiders' money line all day fits your thoughts.
Speaker 3: I told you, Joe that last week I bet the
Speaker 3: Giants plus one and a half. On Monday, when Josh
Speaker 3: McDaniels was the head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders,
Speaker 3: he got fired, that line went up to Giants plus
Speaker 3: three and a half. And like, even though I was
Speaker 3: getting the Giants, uh man, Like, I felt much worse
Speaker 3: about that beat after McDaniels got fired, Like I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1: Win all So yeah, when you cash out and you
Speaker 1: go ticket somewhere else, that's called hedging.
Speaker 3: I'm actually tempted to be I've been just faithfully betting
Speaker 3: against the Raiders every week with Josh McDaniels, and now
Speaker 3: I might actually bet on them, Like, I can't back
Speaker 3: Zach Wilson as a road favorite.
Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 3: No, No, there's as much respect as I have for
Speaker 3: that Jets defense.
Speaker 4: Like I'll take I'll take the money line with the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Here Monday Night football. I'm not gonna lie. I hate
Speaker 1: this line. Buffalo seven at home, minus seven at minus one,
Speaker 1: fifteen at points bet. It's not that I don't think
Speaker 1: Buffalo is good, but I don't know if I'm comfortable
Speaker 1: with Buffalo and a seven point lead with anybody nowadays.
Speaker 1: Denver's coming off of bye, Buffalo didn't look great like
Speaker 1: and I never felt like Buffalo was going to win
Speaker 1: that game with the Bengals, even when I got in
Speaker 1: the second half. It just never felt like that from
Speaker 1: the jump. To me, you're getting plus three twenty in
Speaker 1: the money line for Denver upset. Forty six to forty
Speaker 1: seven is the numbers, So there's a range here. Pat
Speaker 1: This one to me is as a stay away. I'm
Speaker 1: not a big fan of this game.
Speaker 3: I agree Joe, like I can't bet on the Broncos
Speaker 3: as bad as they looked early in the season, but
Speaker 3: I wonder, like have they fixed their defense. They did
Speaker 3: a really good job against the Packers a few weeks ago,
Speaker 3: kept the Chiefs under twenty points. In that upset victory. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: the Bills lost to the Patriot Yets needed to stop
Speaker 3: the Giants on the final play of the game to
Speaker 3: avoid being upset at home by the Giants. You know,
Speaker 3: like played a decent game against the Bengals, but like
Speaker 3: you said, we're really in No, they weren't close to
Speaker 3: winning that game. So there's no way I can lay
Speaker 3: a touchdown or more with the Bills right now to
Speaker 3: a team that has played better of late. So I agree,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to touch this game.
Speaker 1: I don't feel great about the Broncos either, Debro, so
Speaker 1: that's why this game I have an individual game for me.
Speaker 1: So tell you think they can cover that seven and
Speaker 1: a half.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not worried about that. I'm betting the Denver
Speaker 2: Bronco's money line of plus three hundred.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is let's go.
Speaker 2: That's how this is getting way too much credit, giving
Speaker 2: way too much credit to the Bills. Like if we
Speaker 2: take out the Bills name Cache here and the fact
Speaker 2: that they're at home, this is giving too much credit
Speaker 2: to them. If we look at what the Bills have
Speaker 2: been as far as offensively and defensively over the last
Speaker 2: few weeks, this team is trying hard to find themselves,
Speaker 2: and I think the Broncos have found themselves. I think
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a wopping dose of Javonte Williams. You
Speaker 2: can run all over the Bills. The Broncos slow this
Speaker 2: game down, pull like we've talked about with like the
Speaker 2: Titans love to do, Joe, Pull them down into the
Speaker 2: muck and say this is going to be a nasty game.
Speaker 2: So give me the under and give me the Broncos
Speaker 2: money line.
Speaker 1: By the way, boys, I was just tinkering around a
Speaker 1: little bit on fandel. You could take that Dallas by
Speaker 1: one to thirteen points and then the Lions one to
Speaker 1: thirteen points victory at plus one forty five and plus
Speaker 1: one seventy five respectively. Put them together for plus five
Speaker 1: seventy three. Kind of interesting, kind of interesting right there. See,
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