1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: It is a Football Friday Week fifteen edition and another 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: trip to Texas got Zach Gerstman with me berg Gang. 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: The Cardinals won their last trip to Texas beating the Cowboys. 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Can the Cardinals go two for two? We go over 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: the injury reports, plus we head into enemy territory. John 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: Harris joins the show. He covers the Texans for Houston 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Texans dot Com. Plus he's the team sideline reporter. It's 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, Episode nine fifty eight, and it starts now. 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 3: Pooda Baker, What Heart? 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals podcast. Visit Azycardinals 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: dot Com slash podcast. 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: Right at the five hit the end up for the 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: Cardinal touchdown. Drey McBride, he's been an absolute monitor. 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: Here's Craig Grila before we dive into the matchup on 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: Sunday and discuss who is and who isn't playing against 19 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. I do want to single you out, 20 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: Zach and everyone behind the scenes, because well it's only 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: been what a couple of hours since I last saw 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: you here on a Friday morning. What do you think 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know? 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 3: I was like, what article did I write this week? 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: Which so egotisticled me to say, that's my bad. 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: Continue, Wow, what the article did you write this well? 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: You were saying you're gonna single me out, Yeah, and 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, what did I What did I do? 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 4: Well? 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: There is an article that was posted late last night 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: talking about Thursday Nights and the cardinals first ever high 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: school football Honers event at State Farm Stadium that again 33 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: want to applaud everyone who was involved first and foremost 34 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: to put it on, and then congratulations to everyone, all coaches, 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: all players, high school football, girls, flag football, as the 36 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals honored all players and coaches that were honored weekly 37 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: and then there were individual awards handed outs on Thursday night. 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: And that can be all detailed and readabouts on Easycardinals 39 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: dot com. But I think a fantastic event and has 40 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: this looking forward to this next year because it is 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: going to be an annual events, kind of like the 42 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: NFL Honors before the Super Bowl. Now you've got high 43 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: school honors after the end of the regular season. 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: Yep. The show the Award event presented by Avnet. It 45 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: was awesome to see more than fifty different players from 46 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: both boys and girls coaches. A lot of different people 47 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: were recognized for their contributions both on the field off 48 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: the field, and they kind of all got the star treatment. 49 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: They walked into State Farm Stadium, had a red carpet 50 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: laid out for them, The lights were flashing, you know, 51 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 3: the pictures were all being taken, the interviews were being conducted, 52 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 3: and then they went inside the Morgan Athletic Club and 53 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: had a top ten best of the best all in 54 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: dining experience and the award show, and so many different 55 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: people were recognized, a lot of the people that you 56 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: could expect to see playing at State Farm Stadium and 57 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,839 Speaker 3: Sundays down the line. You know Roy Oliver, the third 58 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: from Hamilton, He's only a sophomore, bo was already named 59 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: the Larry Fitzgerald Boys Player of the Year. So a 60 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: lot of different players that have made the valley you know, 61 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 3: their home, have started to lay down the foundation for 62 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: what they're able to do in the high school scene. 63 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: And then it's only the future is bright you will 64 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: get across the NFL. You have Brock Purdy who has 65 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 3: been recognized by the Arizona Cardinals when he was in 66 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: high school at Perry. You had Tyler Shuck Like, there's 67 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: so many different players that are out there, and fortunately 68 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: for us we had a front row seat to see 69 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: and a lot of them getting recognized as high schoolers. 70 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: And a shout out to Arizona's Family's Mark mcclun who 71 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: emceed the events. Arizona family has done a lot for 72 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: high school football boys and girls flag as well. But 73 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: a fun one nights and look forward to next season. 74 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: What comes to the high school. Speaking of high school, 75 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk a former high school winner here in Arizona 76 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. We'll see Christian for the first time on Sunday. 77 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: He left the Arizona Cardinals several years ago for the 78 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars side now with the Texans, and this is 79 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: the first time that Kirk will play the team that 80 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: drafted him all the way back in twenty eighteen. So 81 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: one of those little storylines that you like to highlight, 82 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: especially because everyone knows Christian and was such a phenomenal 83 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: high school athlete, college athlete, and his career in the 84 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: NFL has lasted very I think It's a promising career 85 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: for him and a rewarding experience to see someone you 86 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: talk about, Roy Oliver all of a sudden, Okay, you 87 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: see them grow up, literally grow up high school, college 88 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: to the NFL, and there's a possibility you can add 89 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: someone that we saw last night to the list of 90 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews, Rock Purdy, Christian Kirk. I mean, there is 91 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: a long, long list of Arizona high school athletes that 92 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: have made it to the NFL, and you likely will. 93 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: You likely will because that's how good a lot of 94 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: these players are. They're getting recruited left and right, not 95 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 3: just for boys tackle football, but for girls five football 96 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: as a lot of different colleges are starting to add 97 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: it as a sport. It's pretty it's pretty sweet to see. 98 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: And you just have to hope that when Christian Kirk 99 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: heads back home, you know, comes back to the valley, 100 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: his friends and family could say, well, at least the 101 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: Cardinals beat you that weekend. 102 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: Cardinals at the Houston Texans on Sunday eleven am, kickoff 103 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: six thirty am. Pregame coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals 104 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: Radio network, and yeah, I expect Zach Gershman to be 105 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 1: up for early bird that we're probably not going to happen, 106 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: but I expect him to be up. It's six thirty, 107 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: it's an hour later than typically it is. 108 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: That that's even I want it to be even earlier 109 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: so I could wake up. I can't sleep because I 110 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: just get so excited. 111 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we all know what you're really doing on 112 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: a Saturday night's early Sunday morning, Zach. 113 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 3: What is that work? 114 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: Of course, you've been working all week long, Cody, I 115 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: fooled them. You've been working a lot, especially on the 116 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: injury report. So let's not waste any time before we 117 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: get to our conversation with John Harris. Here's who's not 118 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: playing on Sunday. We already knew about Harris Johnson. He 119 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: is not going to play. We expect Josh Fryer now 120 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: to get the starts at left tackle and then offensively, 121 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior is going to miss a second straight 122 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: game because of a heel injury. He will, though, according 123 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: to head coach Jonathan Gannon, is expected to return at 124 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: some point this season. That was a follow up question 125 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: asked at some point during Friday's press conference that Yeah, 126 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: we haven't seen Marvin in four of the last five games, 127 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: but he is someone that is not going to be 128 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: shut down. You hope to see him sooner rather than later. 129 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm not gonna doubt the Cardinals head coach. 130 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: I just you have to wait to see what it's 131 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: actually gonna be like when he does get out there. 132 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 3: He's feeling better according to the head coach, which is awesome. 133 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: You obviously hope for the long term development of Marvin 134 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: Harrison Junior. This year number two probably has not gone 135 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: the way he has expected for it to go out 136 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: the way that many of us didn't expect for it 137 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: to go so far. He's obviously dealt with the appendicitis 138 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: that had him sideline for the few games. He's now 139 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: dealt with with the heel injury that's had him sideline, 140 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: and of course the struggles in the beginning half of 141 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: the season. So you hope for his sake that he 142 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: could try to end his sophomore season on a positive note. 143 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: Hopefully he is out there, but heel injuries are tricky, 144 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: especially for a lot of these guys where your get 145 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: off from the line of scrimmage is super important. I 146 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: mean on the defensive side, of the ball, we start 147 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: to see it with Max Melton. They brought him back 148 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: to practice on a Wednesday, two different occasions, and he 149 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: practiced on a Wednesday, and then for some reason, one 150 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: way or another, he wasn't able to practice then on Thursday. 151 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: Doubt he's going to be out there on Friday, considering 152 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: John again and has already ruled out the second year cornerback. 153 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: So if you feel for Marvin, but you have to 154 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: hope that you see him out there. If he is 155 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: not out there like he won't be this weekend, there 156 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: is still one hundred percent confidence in what Michael Wilson's 157 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: able to bring to the table. And Jacoby Brissett said 158 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: that the new term he used to describe Michael Wilson 159 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: is that he has no fear. So you hope that 160 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 3: when he's in Houston, you know, fear is not going 161 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: to be traveling on that flight. 162 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: Since week eleven, so the past four games, Michael Wilson 163 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: leads the league in receptions and receiving yards. It's been 164 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: impressive to see Michael operate as wide receiver one, and 165 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: he's gonna get another opportunity to do that on Sunday. 166 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: You brought up Max Mountain. Let's touch on the other 167 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: injuries that are affecting in the defense. It's specifically the 168 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: secondary that safety position. Jalen Thompson out with a hamstring 169 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: and Rabbit Taylor Demerson is going to miss a fifth 170 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: straight game because of an ankle issue. So that leaves 171 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, who did return to practice this week on Thursday. 172 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: And you've got Keaton Crawford who did see significant playing 173 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: time last week, got his first career start. My guess 174 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: is he's going to get another start this week and 175 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: see what he can do as a safety. We know 176 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: he can do as a special teams player, but someone 177 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: that I think this coaching staff, this front office why 178 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: they drafted him, like the skill set. And again, if 179 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: you have a uniform on game day and you're just 180 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: playing special teams, Okay, what happens if someone loses his shoe? 181 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: I e. Nick Rallis uses that phrase a lot when 182 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: there's an injury. Okay, well, let's turn to see who's active. 183 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: Keaton Crawford's been active and he's gotten a taste and 184 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: now we'll get even larger taste on defense with. 185 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 3: The amount of shoes that have been lost you can 186 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: start to fill up the shields shoe section at this rate, 187 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 3: because that's how many players have been sidelined so far 188 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: this year. But johnath Agannon I asked a head coach 189 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 3: about Keaton Crawford and what he has seen from the 190 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 3: seventh round rookie oot in Nevada, and he spoke very 191 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: highly of the of the safety. He talked about how 192 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: his anticipation for certain plays with his work, how that 193 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: has improved. He said, the first thing he looks at 194 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: as the mental component of it, because we know that 195 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 3: they asked their safeties to do a ton in Nick 196 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: Rollis's defense, and in that first game he did quite well. 197 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: Now you had Jalen Thompson for almost the entirety of 198 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: the game. He wasn't ruled out of the game with 199 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: the hamstring injury until the last drive when the Rams 200 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: were kneeling it out. That was the only time that 201 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 3: we heard that Jalen Thompson was not going to be 202 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: out there. So there's been a lot of praise for 203 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: Keenan Crawford what he's been able to do his development. 204 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 3: We know from the start when Mani austin Ford and 205 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: Dave Sears came out for their press conference right after 206 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: the draft. They said that they got a text from 207 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: a special teams coordinator around the NFL that said that 208 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: the Cardinals got a steal on special teams with Keaton Crawford. 209 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 3: He has been an ace in that department and a 210 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: very important piece since you lost Joey Blunt in the 211 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 3: first game of the season, so you needed that really 212 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: strong special teamer out there. Keenan Crawford has taken that role, 213 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: but in the secondary, especially when you're getting ready to 214 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 3: go off against a Houston offense, which has had its moments, 215 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: it hasn't been super great, but you know that they 216 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: still have Christian Kirk, they still have Nico Collins, a 217 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: speedy threat that the Cardinals are going to have their 218 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: hands full with Keyan Crawford. I think that there's gonna 219 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: be a lot of excitement about what he could do. 220 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: We talk about this all the time, Craig, that now 221 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: is the time of year with the Cardinals not making 222 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 3: into the playoffs, the way that the season has gone, 223 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 3: the development of a lot of these players is huge. 224 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 3: I would love to see Mac Wilson senior out there, 225 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: no doubt about it. But I'm very interested to see 226 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: what the tape is going to tell us at the 227 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: end of the season about what Cody Simon has been 228 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: able to do at that green dot position. Hopefully walteron 229 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: Onlan the third plays a hand full more games and 230 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: you're able to start to see it a little bit more. 231 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: You hope Will Johnson stays healthy and get string together 232 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: in more games. But with Kean Crawford's case, he's kind 233 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 3: of been the wild card. What do you have? We 234 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 3: know what you have on a special team side, what 235 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: do you have on the defensive side. Well, now you're 236 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: going to have that answer in these next couple of weeks. 237 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: Well here's another name. If he is going to be 238 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 3: out there the next couple weeks, here's. 239 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: Another name to add to that list, because I know 240 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: you're working on a story to preview Sunday's game. That 241 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: is Denzel Burke, who is a part of that twenty 242 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: twenty five draft class, who has seen a lot of 243 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: playing time, and again saw a lot of playing time 244 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: last week. I know it was a tough coverage for 245 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: that Cardinals secondary against the Los Angeles Rams. And now 246 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: you've got what you just mentioned was again not nearly 247 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: as high profile of a passing offense with Matthew Stafford. 248 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: But you have CJ Stroud, who is certainly someone that 249 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: is capable and again probably playing with a lot more 250 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: confidence considering the one two in a row with him 251 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: as the quarterback recently. And then as good as that 252 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: defense is playing, you play a little bit more confidently 253 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: as an offense. So the task at hand for this 254 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: Cardinal secondary is to make sure that those windows aren't 255 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: nearly as wide and make it difficult for CJ to 256 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: figure it out way to get the ball in the 257 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: hands of his pass catchers. 258 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Pooka Nakula had his way against the Cardinals last weekend, 259 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 3: going for a buck something two touchdowns. He had a 260 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 3: really strong game. And Jonathan again and said when asked 261 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: earlier in the week about the mindset that the cornerbacks 262 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: need to have, he said, he said, I want my 263 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: dbs to go back into the huddle and they're either 264 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 3: going to think one of two things. Either one, don't 265 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: throw me the ball or two I'm ready throw throw 266 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 3: the ball at me again, try me one more time. 267 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: And I think the mental makeup of a lot of 268 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: these players is try me one more time. We'll see 269 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: what happens here, and if I get beat again, we'll 270 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: try me one more time. I'm gonna see what happens here. 271 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: And I think that you've seen that so far. With 272 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 3: Denzel Burke especially, he's a fifth rounder that has been 273 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 3: thrown into extensive amount of playing time, extended amount of 274 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: playing time, and he's done a really solid job out there. 275 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: Pooka Nakula is one of the best wideouts in the league, 276 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 3: and there's been enough of a threat with DeVante Adams 277 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 3: out there and knowing what he was able to do 278 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: that the Cardinals contained him, but that allowed for Pooka 279 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 3: to have the type of day that he did. You 280 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 3: can't afford to put all your eggs in one basket 281 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: to focus on Nico Collins, because then Christian Kirk could 282 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 3: really go off. You focus too much and you start 283 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: to let loose of what the rushing attack starts to 284 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 3: become depending on their injury status. Nick Chubb what he marks. 285 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: Two really solid backs, and of course c. J. Stroud 286 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: could throw it into really tight pockets. He could extend 287 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: plays with his legs. This Cardinal secondary is definitely gonna 288 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: need to be on one and not having Jalen Thompson 289 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: or Rabbit Taylor Demerson out there hurts the back end. 290 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: Second time this Cardinals team will head to the state 291 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: of Texas. Earlier in the season, the Cardinals beat the Cowboys. 292 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: Can the Cardinals go two for two in the Lone 293 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: Star States. Let's dive further into this matchup. As I 294 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: mentioned off the top, Zach and I had the chance 295 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: to speak with John Harris. He's the sideline reporter for 296 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. He also writes for Houston Texans dot Com. 297 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: Here now is our conversation. First off, appreciate the time, John, 298 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: and I guess it's easy to start with the defen 299 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: so let's start there. You've been covering the Texans for 300 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: a little while. Just how good is that side of 301 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: the ball this season. 302 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 4: I've be't covering his team since two thousand and seven. 303 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 4: I've been in the building since fourteen. I've seen some 304 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: really good defenses. Our twenty sixteen team that had Clowney 305 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 4: ironically didn't have JJ Watt that year, but he had Clowne, Whitney, Merciless, 306 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 4: Bernard McKinney. We had a wall in the middle of 307 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 4: DJ Reider and Vince will Fork and you just you 308 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 4: never ran on us. But this group is different. This 309 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 4: group is the level of football violence that they bring 310 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 4: to a game. I think everybody saw that on Sunday night. 311 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 4: I've been watching that since twenty twenty three. It's been 312 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: building to this moment to this season. You know, adding 313 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 4: a piece here, adding a piece there. You know, last 314 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 4: year twenty twenty four, getting Kaylen Bullock and getting Kamari 315 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 4: Lasser in the same draft in rounds two and three 316 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 4: to you know, really round out the secondary. Keeping Jalen 317 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 4: Petrie health. But you know, last year we went into 318 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 4: the playoffs, we had lost pe Tree and we twelve 319 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 4: against the Titans, and we really we were hurting without him. 320 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 4: And I think everybody saw on Sunday night how much 321 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 4: value he provides this team. But they're ferocious. I mean, 322 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 4: they just you know, they they want they want to 323 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: end you. It's amazing. They want offenses to feel their pain. 324 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 4: And you know, they put the helmets on and that's 325 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 4: the way they play. They take the helmets off. And 326 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 4: there's some of the nicest guys, some of the best 327 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 4: in the community you're gonna find. I know a lot 328 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 4: of people, you know, point out A Z's al shy 329 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 4: because they watched the Z's on the field. They're like, oh, 330 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 4: that guy is dirty. He's just Aziz al Shire is 331 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 4: one of the best humans I've ever met in my life. 332 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: And I think that's what makes this group so interesting 333 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 4: is that when they take the helmets off, they're just 334 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 4: brilliant young men, and when they put the helmets on, 335 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: they are a whole different mentality. And Demko has them 336 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 4: and Matt Burker, I know, you guys remember Matt from 337 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 4: his time with Arizona. Matt Stunn. Heck of a job 338 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 4: to Mico turn the defense over to him in week 339 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 4: four and from that point forward, nobody's thrown for over 340 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: two hundred yards. But we in Houston know a lot 341 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 4: about Jacoby Brissett, and Brissette scares everybody. We've seen Brissette 342 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 4: beat this team with three other teams, with teams that 343 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 4: probably weren't that great, but he did it with the Patriots, 344 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 4: you know, Colts, and also the Dolphins. So this building 345 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 4: is very, very respectful of Jacoby Brissette. A lot of people, 346 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 4: some people coached him, some people have been in the 347 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 4: personnel department. Nick Cassario was one of the instrumental pieces 348 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 4: in drafting him. So there is a high level of 349 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 4: respect for Jacoby Brissett. And I know that's got to 350 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 4: be something to the Cardinals to be able to throw 351 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 4: it against this team, and they thrown against really good defenses. 352 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 4: It'll be tough to do it against this defense, but 353 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 4: I know that if an offense can do it is 354 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 4: probably this one in Arizona. 355 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: Well, if Jacoby Brissette listen to your description of the 356 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 3: violence and the physicality, I think he'd be scratching his 357 00:17:58,920 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 3: head saying, no. 358 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: Boys, this is gonna be a long week. 359 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 3: But we know all the time about when coaches come in, 360 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: their team kind of takes on a part of their identity. 361 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 3: That the last time that the Cardinals saw Houston was 362 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: during Demiko ryans first season at the Helm. In what ways, 363 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: over the last three seasons with Demiko leading the charge, 364 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 3: has this Texans defense kind of picked up on some 365 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: of his personality. 366 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's the biggest thing. Just the more 367 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 4: you're around Demiko, the more you you want to please him. 368 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 4: You know, you talk to your players and you see 369 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 4: Demico on the sidelines, he's smiling, he's laughing. You see 370 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 4: him in a hallway you know, he's always got a 371 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 4: smile for you. But you ask every single one of 372 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 4: those defensive players and they'll kind of, you know, kind 373 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 4: of lift their eyes at you and go, oh, he's 374 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 4: hard on us. Like he does not back off. He 375 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 4: has a level of standard that he demands that they reach, 376 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 4: and I think they've taken a lot of pride in 377 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 4: reaching that standard. I think it's twenty three when we 378 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 4: faced each other here at Energy Stadium, like it was 379 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 4: just starting, you know, it was it was kind of 380 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 4: you know, it was Will Anderson's rookie year. You know, 381 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 4: we didn't have Daniel Hunter at that point, we didn't 382 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 4: have a Z's you know, secondary was kind of half built. 383 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 4: You know. Singley was just kind of coming back from 384 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 4: a really bad hamstring injury and he had an interception 385 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 4: in that game, going over Hollywood Brown for interception, and 386 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 4: that was kind of the beginning of staying at that point. 387 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 4: But we've added so many pieces and they they have 388 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 4: a great chemistry and a lot of that has to 389 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 4: do with the miko. But it's interesting how the players 390 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 4: they've found that competitive fire, they have matches what demiko 391 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 4: is all about, and like I just said, you know, 392 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 4: you take the helmets off these guys. They're they're a 393 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 4: lot like Demiko. When Demiko is in the hallway and 394 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 4: he's just you know, he's he's still Nika Ryan's, but 395 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: it's not coach Ryan's. Man, he is one of the 396 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 4: nicest guys I've ever met. He's giving, he is a 397 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 4: very faith based individual. But man, you put him on 398 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 4: a football sideline and it is a different He's a 399 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 4: different cat. And I think he's gone out and gotten 400 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 4: players along with the Cassario that match that. But then 401 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 4: he's gotten guys that he knows can go to a 402 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 4: different level. And they've shown that defensively this year. And 403 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 4: you know the struggles the offense has had, it's kind 404 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 4: of forced the defense to do it. But they don't 405 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 4: mind it. They want the pressure on them. And that's 406 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 4: exactly the way the Miko Ryans played the game himself, 407 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: and that's the way he's coaching the game, and he's 408 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 4: got his players to respond. 409 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: One more defensive question, just looking at the numbers, the 410 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: sack total, the interception total. Is it the rush that 411 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: it's accounting for the interceptions or is it the coverage 412 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: accounting for the sacks? 413 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 4: Yes, the old adage that I've heard this for years. 414 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 4: They say Russian coverage have to work together, and it 415 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 4: really does, you know. Against the Buffalo Bill's I think 416 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 4: it was a great example. They eight sacks and Josh 417 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 4: was holding the all trying to get guys open, but 418 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 4: they decided to protect five with four and our four 419 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 4: are gonna be five nearly every time, and so they 420 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 4: got eight sacks. But when he did decide to throw it, 421 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 4: Kaylin ended up with two interceptions and forced to fumble 422 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 4: the other thing against the Chiefs, the Chiefs like, hey, 423 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 4: we're smart guys. You're not gonna go sack Patrick Mahomes. 424 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 4: Whole game. We got a bang up offensive line. So 425 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 4: there were times they were protecting with seven and sometimes eight, 426 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 4: But even with those numbers trying to protect Mahomes, they 427 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 4: still got pressure. And I think that's the most important thing, 428 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 4: because you know we've heard that, Hey, well the numbers 429 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 4: say this, The numbers say that, and it's yes, the 430 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: numbers do say, Okay, sacks against Mahomes, you only have 431 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 4: a couple of me, Tommy Toad, Gayda sack and I 432 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 4: think den he Ca autred to sack, but Daniel Hunter 433 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 4: and Will Anderson created all kinds of mayhem, and that 434 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 4: helped force Patrick Mahomes in the three interceptions, a couple 435 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 4: of four down incompletions, and just in general creating problems 436 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 4: for Mahomes. But while you only had two secs, if 437 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: you didn't watch the game, you think we had eighty. 438 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 4: H Josh Allen, you only had two. Oh, the pass 439 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: rush didn't get it done. And then you look at 440 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 4: the secondary and how they were able to play. There 441 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 4: are only three receivers in routes a lot of times 442 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 4: because the chiefs are you leaving them in the block. 443 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 4: So it's an offensive decision. How you're gonna go about it. 444 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: Do you think the rush? Do you want to save 445 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 4: your quarterback and we'll give him an opportunity to throw it, 446 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 4: or are you gonna get sacked eight times like Josh 447 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 4: Allen and hope that the quarterback can just put the 448 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 4: cape on and go win like Superman. And I think 449 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 4: that's the tough decision that offenses are having to make 450 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 4: against this defense. Well, the rush is the problem. Well, no, 451 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 4: the coverage is the problem. And I like I said, yes, 452 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 4: they're both problems. And if you get too greedy the 453 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 4: coverage beat you. If you get too stubborn, then the 454 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 4: rush is going to beat you. And so it's just 455 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 4: a matter of how you go about it. And I 456 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 4: think what you have to do is kind of mix 457 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 4: it up and trying to keep the Texans off balance. 458 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 4: You've got to do some different things. Maybe some up 459 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 4: tempo screens, draws be very effective counters using their aggressiveness 460 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 4: against them, but even teams that do that have success 461 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 4: on a player too, and then it's right back to them. 462 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 4: You know, defense kind of taking advantage of it. But 463 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 4: I think the biggest difference you were talking with Russian 464 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 4: covered who think first and third levels, but the second level. 465 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 4: The linebackers have been immensely better in coverage this year. 466 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 4: The last couple of years they weren't, and that's where 467 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 4: we got hurt a lot. Now Trey McBride might end 468 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 4: up with fifteen catches on Sunday. I can I promise 469 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: he's gonna get his because we're not all the way there. 470 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 4: But that is one area where the linebackers have gotten 471 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 4: a lot better. But facing a guy like McBride, I 472 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 4: worry that he could end up having a game and 473 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 4: that could be a good answer to kind of balancing, 474 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 4: how do you slow the rush, how do you defeat 475 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: the coverage? Well, maybe it's right there in the middle 476 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 4: with a guy like McBride. 477 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: I think it'll be interesting to see the health status 478 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: as do we goes on for Marvin Harrison Junior, because 479 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 3: we know how Michael Wilson has been as well in 480 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 3: that kind of wide receiver one role flipping it over 481 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: to the offensive side of the ball. For the Texans, 482 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 3: it seems like when CJ. Stroud went out, Davis Mills 483 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 3: came in and kind of lit a spark in this team, 484 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 3: kind of like a shine the arm of adrenaline basically, 485 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: and the way that they've been able to strink together 486 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: these last five wins, especially even with CJ being back 487 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: at the helm. Is that a fair assessment or what 488 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 3: kind of flipped the switch for this offense knowing how 489 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 3: they started the season versus where they're at now. 490 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 4: Well, Sun and Night was not a great indication of this, 491 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 4: but really what flipped it was against Jacksonville they found 492 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 4: their offensive line. And I know it sounds weird, which 493 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 4: jackson was what we hand week eleven, somethings like that 494 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 4: we tried. I can't remember what it was, but it 495 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 4: took all the way till that time to find the 496 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 4: right offensive line, and I think that's really what kind 497 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 4: of held everything back. And once they kind of settled 498 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 4: on what it was supposed to be, I think everybody 499 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 4: kind of hit in their spots finally, and then they 500 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 4: were able to find some consistency. They had a couple 501 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 4: of games where they didn't give up sacks, they ain't 502 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 4: got blood pressure, and both Davis and CJ were able 503 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 4: to kind of sit back and really kind of, you know, 504 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 4: pick apart in opposing secondary because these receivers young athletic, 505 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 4: big they're they're still kind of learning together with CJ. 506 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 4: You know, Nico's been here for a little while, but 507 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 4: you know some of the you know, Jade Hagen's a 508 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 4: rookie Jay, the Nola rookie, Kirsha Kirk just got here 509 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 4: this year, so they're all kind of still learning everything together. 510 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 4: But I think this offensive line, those struggles when they 511 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 4: face some really good interior players, like they struggled. We 512 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 4: struggled against the Titans, they got Jeffrey Simmons. We struggled 513 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 4: the other night against the Chiefs, they got Chris Jones. 514 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 4: Interior pressure and interior problem problems are going to give 515 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 4: us problems. But if we can get those guys protected. 516 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 4: Areon Irsery, the rookie left tackle has progressed very very 517 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 4: well as a rookie, Titus Howard fits better at guard, 518 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 4: and Trent Brown seeming these tails a little bit of 519 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 4: football left. He's one of the largest human beings I've 520 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 4: ever seen. So they're getting better protection, and the receivers 521 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 4: and quarterbacks have been working well together. But when this 522 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 4: you season the epitaph, when the season has written, those 523 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 4: three games where Davis Mills had to come in and 524 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 4: essentially save the season will not be forgotten. I think 525 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 4: he showed everybody that he can play. CJ's even said it. 526 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 4: He's like, I believe Davis is the starting quarterback, and 527 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 4: I think Davis is. Look, he's he's not a top 528 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 4: ten guy, but I think Davis can start in this 529 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 4: league and play, And he showed in those three games. 530 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 4: I mean, we're three and five and we're down twenty 531 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 4: nine to ten to Jacksonville and we've just blown the 532 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 4: whole game with every problem you can think of. Interception, 533 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 4: kickoff return, fumble, gave up a punt return. We're down 534 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 4: twenty nine to ten, and Dave, this brings us back, 535 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 4: and that really was kind of the spark of the season. 536 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 4: And then CJ came back against Indianapolis and kind of 537 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 4: continued that and now we got the momentum rolling and 538 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 4: now we're back at home. So I think what for fans, 539 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 4: they'll look at this game and go, the Cardinals are 540 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 4: three and ten, they've lost six in a row or 541 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 4: five in a row, whatever it is, we'll make this season. 542 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 4: I think everybody in this building knows exactly what the 543 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 4: Cardinals can bring to the table, how well they've played 544 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 4: in games against AFC South teams. Should have beaten Jacksonville, 545 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 4: should have definitely been the Tennessee Titans, which I know, 546 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 4: I'm sure that's one you don't want to talk about. 547 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 4: And so the Texans are well aware of how well 548 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 4: the Cardinals can play and what that game was like 549 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three, how tough that game was. So 550 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,959 Speaker 4: they're bracing for a pretty damn big fight on Sunday 551 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 4: against the Cardinals. 552 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: It should be a lot of fun coming up at 553 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: eleven am Arizona time on Sunday. John appreciate the time again, 554 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: great information and looking forward to this matchup coming up 555 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: this week. 556 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 4: Absolutely my pleasure, guys, thank you for having me. 557 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: Really good stuff there from John if you want to 558 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: follow him on Sunday, it's at Jay Harris Football does 559 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: a great job covering the Houston Texans, and of course 560 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: this season a Texans team that is eight and five, 561 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: currently the seventh seed in the AFC and a chance 562 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: to three peat within the AFC South. But see if 563 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: the Cardinals can't make things difficult for this Houston Texas team. 564 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: But it is going to be a challenge because it 565 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: is the number one defense in the league. 566 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: Can we go back for quick seconds? It just hit 567 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 3: me when we were talking about the cornerbacks Denzel Burke 568 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: practice against c J. Stroud a ton at Ohio State. 569 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 3: It's true and Will Johnson played against c J. Stroud 570 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: during their time in the game. So that's certainly something 571 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: I think is going to go to go to their benefit. 572 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: And Paris Johnson and CJ. Stroud very good friends. Parris 573 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: is not playing this weekend. 574 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Marvin Harrison Junior. There's a lot of different connections 575 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: out here, but to specifically go to how the Cardinals 576 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: could utilize that on defense, I was listening to something 577 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: that CJ. Stroud spoke about when he was talking about 578 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: scouting this Cardinals defense, and he was talking about the 579 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 3: three safety looks. How does that now change with not 580 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 3: having Rabbit Tator Emerson and Jalen Thompson out there. Do 581 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: the Cardinals start to move things around with Garrett Williams 582 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 3: to try to try to confuse CJ. Stroud. He is 583 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: still a young guy out there, so you hope to 584 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: try to confuse him in different ways. But if you're 585 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: able to with Denzel Burke and Will Johnson and to 586 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 3: try to slide Garrett Williams around, utilize him like a 587 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: chess piece, that could be something. Now, what was what 588 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: you said beforehand? 589 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: Very well done, Zach. You when you get off on 590 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: these tangents, it's like squirrel moment. 591 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like squirrels. So that was really wrong 592 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 3: with you covered that. 593 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: Go back into the archives, google it and you can 594 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: figure it out. Why the task for Jacoby Brissett's and 595 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: this Cardinals offense and then the flip side, what this 596 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: Houston defense has done in what they are capable of doing. 597 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: And we've spent a lot of time this week, it's 598 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: just going over the numbers and it's I mean, look, 599 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: they're the best. I mean there's outside of giving you 600 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: like where they're number one and top five and top 601 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: ten and most of it's top three. But they do 602 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: a very good job and they are the perfect example 603 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: of what Jonathan Gannon likes to say, rush and coverage 604 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: go together. Okay, well what is better? And we even 605 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: asked John what's the best? Is it the coverage or 606 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: is it the rush of the Texans? He answered yes, 607 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: And that's what I think any head coach would love 608 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: to see, because if you can just rush four, then 609 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: it makes it easier on the secondary. And if they're 610 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: playing tight coverage and you've got a lot of dbs 611 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: in that Texans secondary who have passed the defense and interceptions, 612 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: then it makes it a little bit easier for the 613 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: rush because you can get home and make it difficult 614 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: on opposing quarterbacks. 615 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 3: I'm not going to say I had the Texans as 616 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 3: my fantasy defense, but I'm also not not going to 617 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 3: say that I had the Text Negative as my fantasy defense. 618 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not in the playoffs, so no need 619 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 3: to worry about that. So at this point I'm glad 620 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 3: I'm glad that the season, you know, you look in to. 621 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: Make some changes, maybe a new decision maker or. 622 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 3: I think I just stopped piping. Okay, it's so I 623 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 3: look as long as I did not come in last place. 624 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 3: That I will leave to my good friend Jared. He 625 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 3: will be driving around with the license plate that says 626 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: I saw at Fantasy Football that's all pink, and he's 627 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 3: gonna love hearing that that this is being. 628 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: Discussed on the podcast. 629 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 3: I definitely will be sending that into the fantasy group chat. 630 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: But with this, with this Texans defense, they forced turnovers 631 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 3: and that's something that they do super well, and they 632 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 3: confuse a lot of different quarterbacks. They made Patrick Mahomes 633 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 3: look pedestrian over the weekend, and it's something that this 634 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: Cardinals defense made. This Cardinals offense, especially with that offensive line, 635 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 3: this is not going to look like the same unit 636 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 3: that started in Week one of the season. You're gonna 637 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 3: have yelled Defroholder out there, and you're gonna have Isaiah 638 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 3: Adams are right guard outside that. Those are likely going 639 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: to be your two star. We're not sure about Evan 640 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 3: Brown's status going into the weekend. Johnathangana said he's dealing 641 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: with the family matter by your right tackles different, your 642 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: left tackles different, and likely your left guard is going 643 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 3: to be different. That's very tough when you're going up 644 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 3: against this defense because of the Russian cover covered and rush, 645 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: but they force turnovers. And Jonathan Gan talks about the 646 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 3: value of the ball. That's where it all starts with, 647 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 3: is the value of the ball. Jacoby Brissett needs to 648 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 3: keep it not in harm's way because you need to 649 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: try to find your playmakers. Now John was talking about it, 650 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 3: Trey McBride is going to get his and I think 651 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: that that's encouraging because this offense now with James Connor 652 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 3: not out there, this offense goes as Trey McBride goes. 653 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 3: If you're able to start to get trade involved, which 654 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 3: could open up something from Michael Wilson. You have to 655 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 3: hope your passing attack is going to be on point 656 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 3: because the rushing attack has not been there so far 657 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 3: this season. But you need your offensive line at the 658 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 3: end of the day to just try to hold up 659 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 3: as best as they can. 660 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: Now, John talks a lot about the respects that the 661 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: Texans have for Jacoby Brissett, who has faced The text 662 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: is nine times. That was asked of Jacoby earlier this week, 663 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: and he didn't even want to talk about it because 664 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: so much has changed and it's different teams and different staffs. 665 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: So it is one of those numbers. And I know 666 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: you wrote about on Uneasycardinals dot com just Jacoby's success 667 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: at it against this Texans team, and there are numbers 668 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: out there. Hey, this quarterback is beaten this team so 669 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: many different times or undefeated, and it's great. But in 670 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: the NFL, there's so much change year to year that 671 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: those numbers when you talk to the player don't mean anything. 672 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: But it's just nice to bring up and like, Okay, 673 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: well maybe, but it's like, no, that's that's got a 674 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: brand new roster, it's got a brand new coaching staff. 675 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: Nothing's really similar to what Jacoby Brissette has faced. The 676 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: last time you saw. 677 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 3: The Tech, the last time Jacoby beat the Texans was 678 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two in Cleveland when Drew Petsing was 679 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: his quarterbacks coach. So a lot has changed since then. 680 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 3: Houston's gone through a whole new coaching staff since now 681 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator here, Jacoby Brisset's been on two different 682 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 3: teams since then. So a lot has changed, but when 683 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 3: you go into that venue. 684 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 1: And that might yeah, that might be the best example 685 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: because you're familiar with it. 686 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 3: You're familiar and he talked about it. He Jacoby was 687 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 3: asked about it by Darren earlier in the week and 688 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 3: he said, the only thing I go into it knowing 689 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 3: is that it's going to be loud. That is huge 690 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 3: as a quarterback to already kind of know what the 691 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 3: volume of the stadium is going to be. 692 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: Like. 693 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 3: You'd mentioned how they are still trying to fight for 694 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 3: that division crown and how that they're trying to stay 695 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 3: in that battle. This game means a lot for Houston 696 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 3: to try to come away with the victory, try to 697 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 3: continue their winning streak, and hopefully in their case, to 698 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 3: beat the Cardinals. The Cardinals at this point of the season, 699 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 3: you want to be the spoiler, and nobody has been 700 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 3: a spoiler more for the Houston Texans in recent memory 701 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 3: than Jacoby. 702 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: Brisseaid eight in. 703 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 3: One record four and one as a starter, if I'm 704 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 3: not mistaken, he's done a really solid job at the helm. 705 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 3: When playing against Houston, you just have to hope that 706 00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 3: that stretch continues. 707 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: I know it. 708 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 3: Different teams and you know, different staffs, and it's a 709 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 3: completely different time at Kobe Brissette's life now as a 710 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 3: journeyman backup that's now taken over as the starting quarterback 711 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 3: for the rest of the season. However, when you always 712 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 3: see that one team on the schedule, when you know, 713 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 3: like I kind of have their number, it gives you 714 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 3: that little extra confidence. And I hope that that's something 715 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: that Kobe could take on the fight with him down 716 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 3: to Houston and could you know, hopefully leave Energy Stadium 717 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 3: with the win and added to his record. 718 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: Look to in the Texans five game winning streak and 719 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 1: put a stop to the Cardinals five game losing streak. 720 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals three and ten, Texans eight and five. Eleven am 721 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: is the kickoff six thirty. Pre game coverage begins on 722 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Anything else on this matchup, Zach, 723 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: before we allow you to enjoy your weekend here in 724 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: week fifteen, but this matchup specifically that has you, I 725 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: don't know, excited or anxious to see on Sunday. 726 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 3: I just think that the Cardinals have done a really 727 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 3: solid job against AFC South teams. You know, we saw it. 728 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 3: They haven't come away with the victories like they've needed to. 729 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 3: But they could have beat Indianapolis, they could have beat Jacksonville. 730 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 3: And that's something that John spoke about. It's something I 731 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 3: didn't even think about until he mentioned it. The Cardinals 732 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 3: have been in the fight against a very tough division, 733 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: so hopefully this is the time when they could go 734 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 3: in and they could, you know, hopefully secure a victory 735 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 3: against one of the AFC's best. 736 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: And just feel good about where this Cardinals team is period, 737 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: considering it has been a little while since they've walked 738 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: off the field heads held high because they have secured 739 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: a victory. So maybe this is the week again. Week fifteen, 740 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,919 Speaker 1: Cardinals headed to the Houston Texans, and of course we'll 741 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: talk about it next week here on Cardinals Cover two. 742 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: And on that notes, we will put a lid on 743 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hyundai, probably 744 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to 745 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,959 Speaker 1: our executive producer jim On Mahundra, our associate producer Cody 746 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: Fincher for Zach Gershman, I'm Greig real Lou. We'll talk 747 00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 1: to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two. The