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Speaker 1: Walk home to move the sticks? DJ Bucky back together

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Speaker 3: And it's the incremental growth that you've seen. Whatever happened

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Speaker 2: And look, these terms have gotten misconstrued.

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Speaker 3: But someone that can just manage the offense, make a

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Speaker 3: don't have to do too much, just play point guard.

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Speaker 3: Just get the ball to the weapons and we can go.

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Speaker 3: And then the thing about Michael pennix attack mentality, I've

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Speaker 2: I mean it is shot shot shot, I mean it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean over and over and over again, just taking

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Speaker 2: He does it.

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Speaker 3: And the only thing I wrote though, compared to the

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Speaker 3: is a one hundred percent pocket pass. You're not getting

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Speaker 3: the creativity and the other stuff. So whoever takes him,

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Speaker 3: you better have a sturdy offensive line because he's not

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Speaker 3: going to give you the extra second reaction plays and

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Speaker 1: That's a great way to put it. I would just

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Speaker 1: When I was a kid during Easter, my mom would

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Speaker 2: And we have a big front yard.

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Speaker 1: We had lots of bushes in different places where you

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Speaker 2: In the bucket. He has all the jelly bellies. He

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Speaker 3: The funny thing is DJ I gave him. I wrote

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Speaker 3: What do you want from the position? And uh, you

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Speaker 3: know it's funny, like you hit a practices. You see

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Speaker 2: I think that's what you get, Like you get.

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Speaker 3: A very mature like he's going to be a pro

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Speaker 2: He kind of understands it.

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Speaker 3: And so like look at look, there's no direct translation

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Speaker 2: Game, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: A couple of the names I'll run through real quick,

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Speaker 1: just it is not a complete list, but look, the

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Speaker 2: That was the way it was there.

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Speaker 1: Fuagra from Oregon State as advertising to me, he's top

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Speaker 1: every year there's receivers of this game that pop Malachi

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Speaker 2: But he was.

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Speaker 1: He was the one who if you couldn't run at corner,

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Speaker 1: Like he reminded me a little bit of Pooka at

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Speaker 1: Darius Robinson on defense, it was the kind of the

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Speaker 2: I had him.

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Speaker 1: I think he was at seventeen, eighteen nineteen somewhere like

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Speaker 3: So you brought his name up before, like before we

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Speaker 2: We talked to him as the Aldo kid man. He's

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Speaker 3: So you go and do a little research on him, right,

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Speaker 2: And then you you go and you read about.

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Speaker 3: And then the fact that he went down to the

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Speaker 3: to trust your eyes. When guys dominate on that stage

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Speaker 1: literally just image or imagine it. You'd have the tape,

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Speaker 1: check all Star gameplay, check interviews, talking with people, check

438
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Speaker 1: off the charts.

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Speaker 2: It's only two he's.

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Speaker 1: Got combined the pro day, you know, and if you

441
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Speaker 1: want to talk about a top thirty, visit. But I

442
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Speaker 1: don't anticipate he's gonna have any struggles there. He ran

443
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Speaker 1: four to three nine for the Scouts in the spring

444
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Speaker 1: with no training, So he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna roll.

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Speaker 2: So you can put it again. That's put it put.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's where we are a couple of other

447
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Speaker 1: defensive guys. Bradon Fisk the DT from Florida State. He

448
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Speaker 1: was awesome. He had a great week in a great game,

449
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Speaker 1: got traded the day before the game because they were

450
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Speaker 1: light on DT's he had to switch teams sort of

451
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Speaker 1: sacktackle Philosops excellent. Peyton Wilson had some injuries. The linebacker

452
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Speaker 1: Pence n C State has been a great player. He

453
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Speaker 1: did a nice job as well, had a really good week.

454
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Speaker 1: So you just have to kind of get around the injuries.

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Speaker 1: Kind of reminded me of I'd said it during the week.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember, h gosh, why am I drawing a

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Speaker 1: blank on his name?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Oregon? Who Keiko Alonso coming out at some injuries and

460
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Speaker 1: people like I don't know how long he played for

461
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Speaker 1: a long time. Uh so, uh you had Keiko Alonso

462
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Speaker 1: and then Alex Angzeloni was the other one. I was

463
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Speaker 1: thinking of who was another? And I think Alex Angeloni

464
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Speaker 1: had a bunch of injuries players coming to the league.

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Speaker 3: Playing playing in Detroit. Now here's the thing about Peyton Wilson.

466
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Speaker 3: Like Peydon, Wilson was originally committed to my he's just

467
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Speaker 3: committed to Carolina. Grew up right there in Chapel Hill

468
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Speaker 3: around Chapel Hill. I think his grandparents parents went to State.

469
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Speaker 3: That's why he goes to State. But when you watch

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Speaker 3: him on tape. So here's the thing we like.

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Speaker 2: And I think we're influenced by the people that we know.

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Speaker 3: Like so we've had Luke Keigley come on the show right,

473
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Speaker 3: just as nice as everything, but Dyke Man, there's something

474
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Speaker 3: when he steps between the lines.

475
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Speaker 2: He's an absolute animal.

476
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Speaker 3: Same thing with that guy like who just got promoted

477
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Speaker 3: to GM for the Panthers, Dan work and that's how

478
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Speaker 3: Dan was like nice, has got all the thing, but

479
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Speaker 3: like you put you put the armor on, they become

480
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Speaker 3: a different person. When I watched Peyton Wilson, Peyton Wilson

481
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Speaker 3: got some he got.

482
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Speaker 2: Some dog in him that I absolutely love. Man.

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Speaker 3: He is not afraid to go through the echo of

484
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Speaker 3: the whistle. He'll chase people down all over the field.

485
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Speaker 3: And if not for I would say the series of

486
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Speaker 3: just being the bumps and Bruce. I think it's just

487
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Speaker 3: easy to fall in love with that kind of guy.

488
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Speaker 3: Because when I look at linebacker playing, I look at him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he fits.

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Speaker 3: He checks off a lot of the boxes when it

491
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Speaker 3: comes to how he gets down and how he plays

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Speaker 3: no doubt.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we're going to we're gonna take a quick break,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna come back. We're gonna talk about some of

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Speaker 1: these new coaches and also some gms that have been hired.

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Speaker 1: We haven't had a chance to talk about yet, so

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Speaker 1: we'll jump to that.

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Speaker 2: Right after this.

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Speaker 1: All right, bock the list here. We've got new coaches.

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Speaker 1: We've got Dan Quinn the most recent hire for the Commanders.

501
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Speaker 1: We've got Mike McDonald with the Seahawks. Raheem Morris goes

502
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Speaker 1: to the Falcons, Dave Canalis goes to the Panthers, Jim

503
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Speaker 1: Harbaugh with the Chargers, Brian Callahan is the new coach

504
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Speaker 1: for the Titans, ap Antonio Pears with the Raiders, and

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Speaker 1: Gerd Mayo was the first one I believe who is

506
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Speaker 1: upgraded with the head coach of the Patriots. Where you

507
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Speaker 1: want to go here.

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Speaker 3: Look, let's start out with familiarity first. Let's start with

509
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Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh and the Charges and the reason why I

510
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Speaker 3: want to go there. One, Obviously, you do all the

511
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Speaker 3: work for the Charges, being on their broadcast team. But

512
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Speaker 3: the fact that you and I have seen the work

513
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Speaker 3: that Jim Harbor has done up close, having started at

514
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Speaker 3: West Coast stouts, having had to go. Man, I remember

515
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Speaker 3: going to USD Washington and watching what he did at Stanford,

516
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Speaker 3: looking from afar what he did with the San Francisco

517
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Speaker 3: forty nine before he went to Michigan. And now, Man,

518
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Speaker 3: I'm just excited about what he talked about. I think

519
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Speaker 3: he said the tone and the presser. I think what

520
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Speaker 3: has been written about him texting all the players. I

521
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Speaker 3: think the secret sauce to Jim Harby was looking ain't

522
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Speaker 3: all the x's and o's and that stuff.

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Speaker 2: I just believe the dude is just such a great connector.

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Speaker 3: He really builds a team in terms of like they

525
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Speaker 3: played for one another and all that other stuff. And look,

526
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Speaker 3: pros are different than college. But I look at how

527
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Speaker 3: connected his Michigan's teams were and I think it back

528
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Speaker 3: when you talk to people about his time with the Niners.

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Speaker 2: This is what he does.

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Speaker 3: And look, if I'm a Chargers fan, I'm excited because

531
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Speaker 3: you know, not only getting a guy who want stands

532
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Speaker 3: how to make the game easy for the quarterback, but

533
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Speaker 3: you're getting a guy who builds a team, but also

534
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Speaker 3: he builds it on the principles of toughness and tenacity

535
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Speaker 3: and those things like he made sure everyone knew that

536
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Speaker 3: toughness is a big part of the DNA. I just

537
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Speaker 3: think in this game, when you look at the final

538
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Speaker 3: four and you look at the teams of the there man,

539
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Speaker 3: toughness was a big part of the equation.

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Speaker 2: To go along with the talent that you have to have.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to give you some reason for optimism.

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Speaker 1: And I know people like to poke fun at the

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Speaker 1: Chargers and say, oh, you guys, everybody hypes the Chargers

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Speaker 1: in the offseason, and this is always going to be

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Speaker 1: the year. I'm going to give you some concrete evidence

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Speaker 1: of why this is. This should be a pretty exciting

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Speaker 1: time if you like the Chargers, if you're a fan

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Speaker 1: of the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: You've got the head coach with Jim Harbaugh, who has

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Speaker 1: a history of not only creating an identity, but of

552
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Speaker 1: success when everywhere he's gone, everybody knows that I'm not

553
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Speaker 1: telling you anything you don't know. You go out and

554
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Speaker 1: you go get Joe Ortiz to be the GM who

555
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Speaker 1: I've worked with and I've known for over twenty years

556
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Speaker 1: and is an excellent evaluator. So you get two guys.

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Speaker 1: He's been with the Ravens. Joe's you know, think of

558
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Speaker 1: all the success they've had drafted with the Ravens. He's

559
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Speaker 1: been Eric Decassa's right hand guy. So two guys are

560
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Speaker 1: really good individually at what they do. That's not why

561
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Speaker 1: that would be excited. You don't want me to be

562
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Speaker 1: excited because as we're recording that, some of the names

563
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Speaker 1: are coming out of the coaches. So Greg Roman, it

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Speaker 1: looks like it's going to be the offensive coordinator. You've

565
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Speaker 1: got Mike Devlin who's going to be the offensive line coach.

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Speaker 1: So then on the defensive side of the ball, it

567
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Speaker 1: looks like it's going to be Jesse Minner. He's going

568
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Speaker 1: to be coming with Harball to be the defensive So

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Speaker 1: let me connect this.

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Speaker 2: For you real quick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all these guys, Greg Roman had been in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: Greg Roman has worked with Jim Harbaugh. You look at

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Speaker 1: Jesse Mentor. Jesse Mentor has coached with Jim Harbaugh. Jesse

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Speaker 1: Mentor has been with the Baltimore Ravens. Mike Devlin's the

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Speaker 1: assistant offensive line coach of the Ravens, has been with

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh. Now he's going to go join Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 1: So this is the reason why I'd be optimistic. Do

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Speaker 1: you know how and you on this is a rhetorical question.

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Speaker 1: You know how easy it is to go scout for

580
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Speaker 1: things that you already know what they like. So in

581
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Speaker 1: other words, I've seen situations for man, you've got a

582
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Speaker 1: great head coach, you've got a great general manager, but

583
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Speaker 1: the shopping list hasn't been right. Like he's going and

584
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Speaker 1: scouting and evaluating players for who he likes, but it

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Speaker 1: doesn't fit or marry up with what the coach wants

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Speaker 1: and what the coach plays with. Joe Ortis and he's

587
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Speaker 1: gonna be able to build out his scouting staff knows

588
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Speaker 1: the menu for what works in this offensive scheme and

589
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Speaker 1: this defensive scheme. He's already scouted players and brought players

590
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Speaker 1: into these schemes. That makes life infinitely easier for everybody involved.

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Speaker 2: So total alignment, right. So you're gonna have some people

592
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Speaker 2: who believe that you have you should have a shared vision.

593
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Speaker 3: But I believe you should have a shared vision when

594
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Speaker 3: it comes to general manager, head coach.

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Speaker 2: Whoever has the jews has the juice.

596
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Speaker 3: But you have to be able to work in concert

597
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Speaker 3: to make sure that you're building the team the right way,

598
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Speaker 3: that everyone is kind of pulling the boat in the

599
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Speaker 3: right direction. When you see so much carry over and

600
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Speaker 3: crossover from Baltimore, look love m or hate him. You

601
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Speaker 3: can say what you want to about the Baltimore Ravens.

602
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Speaker 3: The Baltimore Ravens, I would say, are the envy of

603
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Speaker 3: many franchises in the league because they're always in the conversation.

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Speaker 2: So we can talk.

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Speaker 3: About they're always in the conversation and you know exactly

606
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Speaker 3: what you're getting when you play them. When you close

607
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Speaker 3: your eyes and we say, hey, the Baltimore Ravens will

608
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Speaker 3: come to town, you know what kind of team is

609
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Speaker 3: coming to town. And I think about Jim Harbard bringing

610
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Speaker 3: people that he already has ties with, and this is

611
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Speaker 3: different than when some people bring buddies. No, he's bringing

612
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Speaker 3: guys that he's worked with, that he's had success with,

613
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Speaker 3: and they're bringing it back. You can say whatever you

614
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Speaker 3: want to about Greg Roman as an offensive coordinator. You

615
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Speaker 3: can say whatever you want to about a he doesn't

616
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Speaker 3: know the passing game and all that other stuff.

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Speaker 2: I do know this.

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Speaker 3: I know when they were together with the San Francisco

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers, they bludging people with the run game,

620
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Speaker 3: and they found a way to do it, and they

621
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Speaker 3: made Alex Smith look they helped repair and revive his career.

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Speaker 3: You know, they made Colin Kaepernick a star for the

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Speaker 3: time that they were together. So I understand what that

624
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 3: looks like. I also understand they have a superstar quarterback

625
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Speaker 3: in Justin Herbert, and at a time when people think

626
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Speaker 3: that when you have a superstar, you want to use him,

627
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 3: use every drop. No, you want to use him when

628
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 3: you need him, not because you have to. You want

629
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Speaker 3: to establish a running game to make the game easy

630
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Speaker 3: for Herbert. You don't want him to have to feel

631
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Speaker 3: like he has to do everything so you can get

632
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Speaker 3: more out of it. And when you talk about George's

633
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Speaker 3: and making sure everyone's on the same page, a lot

634
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Speaker 3: of people that have taken this from the Ravens play

635
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Speaker 3: like a rape.

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Speaker 2: But you work there.

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Speaker 3: I always had a finess for the guys that scouted

638
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 3: the and worked there. They would talk about it. There's

639
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 3: a clear identity in terms of who you want to

640
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 3: bring into the building. Guys who love ball, guys who

641
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 3: are tough, guys who have some of that physicality and stuff.

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Speaker 2: That's a big part of what they do. The Chargers

643
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Speaker 2: will now have that.

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Speaker 3: And it's funny because he said, hey, don't be fooled

645
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Speaker 3: by the powder Blues.

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Speaker 2: I think that's always the thing.

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Speaker 3: The Charges have always had a reputation for being soft, right, talented,

648
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Speaker 3: but not the toughest team. He'll eliminate that. He'll eliminate that.

649
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: So it should be fun to see if you're a

650
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Speaker 3: Charges fan, see what this looks like.

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Speaker 1: No doubt so interesting. Interesting times there for the Charges.

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Speaker 1: Now they got some tough decisions to make, but I

653
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Speaker 1: think there's a few moves they can make and get

654
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Speaker 1: the salary cap back in order. I'll hit you up

655
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Speaker 1: on one other name here on this list that I'm

656
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: kind of curious about, d Q dan Quinn going to

657
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: Washington to join up with our with our friend Adam Peters.

658
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Speaker 3: So here's the funny thing, right, because I've seen so

659
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 3: many people critical about this move with dan Quinn.

660
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, why did I harson? I was like, Okay,

661
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: let's let's go back in time when dan Quinn was

662
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: a head coach.

663
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 3: Uh, dan Quinn should be a super Bowl champion based

664
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Speaker 3: on how they Based on how that game played out,

665
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 3: they were dominating the pages in the Super Bowl. He

666
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: took the Falcons to a Super Bowl, had them up

667
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: and going, had a quarterback that played at.

668
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: An MVP level.

669
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Speaker 3: So to me, I don't understand why there's so much

670
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, like just criticism over guy getting the

671
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 3: second opportunity there, like, no, it wasn't the sexy name

672
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: because everyone wanted the offensive guy to come in there

673
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: and do it. But I think when you look at

674
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: dan Quinn, not only the work he did with the Falcons,

675
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: I think you have to understand the work that he

676
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: did with the Cowboys. Having gone up to Oxnard and

677
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 3: watched it in training camp multiple years, you got to remember, man, look,

678
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: that team was dead in the water after Mike Nolan

679
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: was being the defensive coordinator, Mike McCarthy couldn't get it going.

680
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: Dan Quinn quickly turns it around. And I would say

681
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: dan Quinn changed the culture in the entire building based

682
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: on what he did with the defense, how hard they played,

683
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 3: the brotherhood that they established, how they were connected on

684
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: that side of the ball. We talked about the takeaways

685
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: and all that other stuff, but this was a team

686
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: that was super connected on that side. And I think

687
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: it carried over to the way the entire team operated.

688
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: But let's also talk about connections and when we talked

689
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 3: about alignment. So Adam Peters comes from San Franciscoyle Shanahan

690
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: was the head coach. Ale Shanahan before he was a

691
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 3: head coach with the San Francisco for not as was

692
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator for dan Quinn. So when we talk

693
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: about bringing this all together and how important it is

694
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: for the general manager and the head coach to see

695
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: the game out of the same prison.

696
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: DJ is there.

697
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: I am sure that ape that Peters talked to Shanahan

698
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: about a man, what's it like to be around dan Quinn?

699
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: How is that relationship going to be? Like DJ?

700
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Speaker 3: I think is a great marriage and setup because they

701
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 3: gonna build this thing the right way and they're gonna

702
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: be connected.

703
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: Every step of the way. As they talk about bringing the.

704
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 3: Talent but also developing the talent and the underrated part

705
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: of dan Quinn and this part would come from his

706
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: time in Seattle. When they were in Seattle, you remember

707
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 3: how many young players they got on the field and

708
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: how they played dan Quinn when he went to the

709
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Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons, based on that experience, they created a thing

710
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Speaker 3: in Atlanta called the Plan D program. It was called

711
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: Plan Development. And what they did is, I want you

712
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: to think about practice every day and I want you

713
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: to think about DJ. We got all the practice squad

714
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: players and the young guys who aren't playing every day,

715
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: they're required to spend ten minutes ten minutes after practice

716
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: working with their position coach or working with a veteran set.

717
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: So if you think about, okay, that ten minutes doesn't

718
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: seem like much, but let's just kind of compound the

719
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: interest of doing it ten minutes a day over time.

720
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Speaker 3: So what the Falcons did, particularly doing the Super Bowl year,

721
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: all these young players had to play prominent roles at

722
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: the end of the season. But because they were developed

723
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 3: each and every practice day, talk about maybe an hour

724
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: a week of just extra time devoted to developing them,

725
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 3: they were ready for it. So now you have Adam Peters,

726
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 3: who's a guy who loves to draft, loves young players. Well,

727
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: now you have a coaching staff that is going to

728
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 3: be about developing young players. And so when we talk

729
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: about working in lockstep, we're going to take these low

730
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 3: round picks. We're going to give them opportunities because we're

731
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Speaker 3: going to develop them and make sure they're ready to

732
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: play when it's there. You and I have both been

733
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: at programs where the coach is like, hey man, I'm

734
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: not playing that young player, and you can't get the

735
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Speaker 3: young player on the field, and now your depth is weakend.

736
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Speaker 2: That's not going to happen. Look, I think it's gonna

737
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: be a phenomenal thing in Washington, yep.

738
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Speaker 1: And they've got a new coordinator there as well. So

739
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Speaker 1: when you when you go out and get Cliff Kingsbury,

740
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: someone who not only has been a head coach in

741
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: the NFL, but a long time of coaching the position

742
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: at quarterback having played the position.

743
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: And then who did he coach?

744
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and Patrick Mahomes. Oh, Patrick mahone who's like

745
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes in this draft?

746
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 3: Oh?

747
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: Oh like and he just came from USC.

748
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I don't want to connect and

749
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: he does, but he just came from USC. Kay Williams

750
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: was his quarterback. Kay Williams is from the DC area.

751
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: Washington is sitting in number two. So I don't think

752
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: it would take much to go from two to one.

753
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: We have.

754
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Speaker 1: That's where I disagree with you. It might take a

755
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 1: little bit to go from two to one, you think

756
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: take a lot.

757
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: You think it take a lot.

758
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if the if the Bears, if the Bears,

759
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: if the Bears find themselves in love with another quarterback,

760
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I'm just saying we have

761
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: someone that's a premium.

762
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: It is.

763
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: Well, we see someone who's not scared because he was

764
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: part of a front office that moved up.

765
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: To the Trey Lance trade didn't work though, So I

766
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: don't know if a p it will trigger a shy

767
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: on that one one to go up.

768
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

769
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Speaker 1: I mean they're in a good position, you know, if

770
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: they want either way, But there's still up there.

771
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, the three good quarterbacks.

772
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: You have Cliff Kingsbury who has experienced calling a game

773
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: with a young quarterback playing because he had to do

774
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: it with Kyler Murray.

775
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: Uh So, whether it's Kaylen Williams or whether it's Drake

776
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: may or Jaye Dames.

777
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: Or whatever, you have someone who is comfortable building an

778
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 3: offense with a young quarterback at the hem. To me,

779
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: I think that's beneficial at a time when we talk

780
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: about a man. Look, you have to build around the player.

781
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: It can't be your system. And you drop him in.

782
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: You got to find a way to mix what he

783
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: does with what you want to do to get him

784
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: ready to play. If you're can play him right away,

785
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 3: you got to help him. You gotta kind of let

786
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: him go out there with some training.

787
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: Will Caler Murray came out there. It's hot and there's

788
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: no smoking under Cliff. Yeah, I couldn't stay health. They

789
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: made their way to the postseason and everything. So you think,

790
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: I just think of all three of these guys can move.

791
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see what happens there, what

792
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: they do in the draft. We have time to jump

793
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: under that more after we get through the Super Bowl.

794
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: All right, Buck, anything else you want to add here

795
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: before we jump out of here.

796
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: No. The one thing, DJ and I want to get

797
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: your take on this Boston College head coach, former head

798
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: coach Jeff Hadley leaving, leaving a college job where he

799
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: was successful. They going to some bowl games to become

800
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 3: a coordinator at the pro level. One, what do you

801
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: think about this move specifically Halfley going there?

802
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 2: But two?

803
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 3: Is this part of an upcoming trend that we're going

804
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: to see college coaches fleeing the college game to come

805
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: to the pro game because they don't have to deal

806
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 3: with all the other stuff that has now become a

807
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 3: big part of the college game, with fundraising and nil

808
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: and transfer portal and all of the chaos they call

809
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 3: football has begun.

810
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: I was talking to a coach at the Senior Bowl

811
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: and we were talking about how much nightmare it is

812
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: in college right now for these coaches, and everybody's like,

813
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. To make tons of money,

814
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that there's a drastic difference in

815
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: what their job was five years ago and what their

816
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: job is now. It's not and they will all tell

817
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: you it's not for the good for them.

818
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: It is what it is.

819
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: So that's why I think you're seeing. And you know,

820
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly's name has been out there for some of

821
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: these coordinator jobs, be willing to leave UCLA.

822
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 2: And one of these.

823
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: Coaches brought up a great point. He said, there's ten

824
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: to twelve teams in college football. They can do whatever

825
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: they want, spend as much money as they want. He said,

826
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: for everybody else, it's a nightmare. It's a nightmare if

827
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: you're not one of those ten to twelve teams with

828
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: the deep pockets and the resources to be able to

829
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: do whatever you.

830
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 2: Want to do. He goes, let me give you an example.

831
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: Of what the resources are like at those schools.

832
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: I got, what do you mean?

833
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: He's like, I know, I have a coach that's on

834
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: one of these staffs. He said, they've gone out and

835
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: they've been able to kill it in the portal and

836
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: bring in recruits. So they're over right. So they're over

837
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: so used to be now you can get you have

838
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: to clear players off of your roster. You can't you know,

839
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: technically cut them right if you're in an existing program.

840
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: So what they would have to do is say you

841
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: encourage them. You know the old ways they would just

842
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: you just kind of dog puss them and make life miserable.

843
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: Then they would tell them, honestly, hey, you're not going

844
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: to play here, you should leave. But the kid doesn't

845
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: have to leave, so then he could medically. If he

846
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: medically retires, you get the spot back. He stays on scholarship.

847
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: And that's if the kid doesn't have a future in

848
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: football whatever. Like, okay, this works, you can you can

849
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: stay here, get your degree. It's free, but we free

850
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: up your spot. But if the kid doesn't want to leave,

851
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: and he doesn't want to medically retire. You got to

852
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: get the spot cleared, he said. These teams with the

853
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: deep pockets, He's like, they're paying kids to go into

854
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: the portal, paying them. We will not pay you only

855
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: to come here. We will pay you to leave because

856
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: we have a better player than you that we need

857
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: to get in and we need your spot.

858
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: I was like, what, Wow, guys are getting the guys

859
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: are getting buyouts and severe.

860
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: In the ros to.

861
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 1: I couldn't I can wrap my brain around it.

862
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 2: It is first of all, if.

863
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: The coach comes in there like, hey, memo to those kids.

864
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: The coach comes in and say, hey, you don't have

865
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: a spot here, you can't play here, You're like, well

866
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: that's going to cost you, coach, and make sure you

867
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: negotiate it. You just don't a parting gift. How a

868
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: party gift on the way out. But that tells you

869
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,479
Speaker 1: how crazy and it's crazy. That's why I like halfway leaving. Uh,

870
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: you know Chip Kelly's name being out there, I think

871
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: you're going to see more of that man.

872
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's why it was until they figured out because

873
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: I honestly believe that college football is going to become

874
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 3: a lot like high school football where you have all

875
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: the different divisions and dividers because everyone is not gonna

876
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 3: be able to play with the big boys, the ten

877
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 3: to twelve teams that you talk about, uh, the teams

878
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: in the SEC and the big ten.

879
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: Everyone doesn't have pockets like that. So where does that

880
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: lead to a group.

881
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: Of five teams that you don't want to continue to

882
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: be a league system for the big boys, you know,

883
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: because what you're seeing is people plucking the top players

884
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: from group of five teams. You're seeing guys pluck the

885
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: top players from lower ranks, and you spend all this

886
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: time developing them and then you kind of left at

887
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: the altar at the end of the day. I think

888
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 3: you have to separate, and I think they're gonna they

889
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: will end up being multiple champions at different levels, just

890
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: like you have a six A and a five A

891
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: and a four A champ.

892
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: I think they have to break it up.

893
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: I think you can see the big boys in the

894
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 3: group in the group of five groups, then you can see,

895
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: you know, the lower divisions. I just don't think they

896
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 3: can continue to sustain it because I don't know how

897
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: these colleges are going to continue to sustain the kind

898
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: of budgets and the commitments that they have to make

899
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 3: while trying to do other things.

900
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: It's just not feasible.

901
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes sense to just you take the big

902
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: ten in the SEC, and maybe they each bring in

903
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: a couple more, you know, maybe it's a clump center

904
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: of Florida State, whoever, Miami whatever, and then they are

905
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: their own football you know, league and conference and division,

906
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: and then then all the other sports can be regional.

907
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 1: You don't need there's no reason for the tennis team

908
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: that you see to go to Columbus, you know, like

909
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: they can just play all the other sports regionally. I

910
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: don't know, but I think I think even Chip Kelly

911
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: might have said that or somebody brought he did he is.

912
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 3: It because it impacts everybody because I want what I

913
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: don't want to see is I don't want to see

914
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: what happens in football effect all the rest of sports.

915
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 3: Like I'm still not all the way up priors, but

916
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 3: I still think, Look, there's value in college athletics in

917
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: terms of person and all that other stuff, and so

918
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 3: I would like to see some of it go back

919
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: to some of the student athletes stuff. Where I mean,

920
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: you go to your school, you get your degree, you play,

921
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: and you partic.

922
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: Colas with other students. You're not just taking online courses

923
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: with just your football team and your in your football

924
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: dorm with proxies downstairs to take your test, like not

925
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: even going to college. I wouldn't want that. Like I

926
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: know everybody's like, man, you wish do you know? I

927
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't good enough? You were, but like to have to

928
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: don't you wish you could go? Now you got this money? Like, no,

929
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: I had a college experience, I wouldn't I enjoyed that.

930
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I just think it's so important to

931
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 3: be able to do that. So if you can separate

932
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: them and put all the big boys, and I think

933
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 3: some colleges would would like thepportunity to be like, hey,

934
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 3: you know what, we're not going to compete at that

935
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: upper level. So coach, I just want you to know

936
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: we're okay being a two way program and we're gonna

937
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: do it. We're gonna pour in. You can be the

938
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 3: best two way program there. But here's the cat. We're

939
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: not spending more five million dollars on all this nil

940
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 3: stuff or whatever. And so I think you want to

941
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: do that because you you should want to give coaches

942
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 3: and players and everybody opportunities to kind of understand where

943
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: they fit in and the university, because everyone's not going

944
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 3: to be able to compete at the level of Ohio

945
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: State and Alabama and Georgia and some of those other

946
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 3: big programs that can spend the money and get whatever

947
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 3: they want to get done.

948
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. All right, Well, this was a fun

949
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Speaker 1: one today. We will be back tomorrow. We'll look at

950
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: how these Super Bowl rosters were built. We'll dig into that.

951
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: I want to encourage if you haven't already, leave us

952
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: a rating and a review. We do appreciate those. Don't

953
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,479
Speaker 1: ask often, but do appreciate when you do that. Any

954
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: ideas you guys have for us. Will take them in

955
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: terms of what we can do better as we head

956
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: towards the draft with some draft content. So we do

957
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Speaker 1: appreciate that and see it tomorrow right here on move

958
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Speaker 1: the stick.

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Speaker 3: Mhmm.