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Speaker 1: it is me Rachel Bannetta, And if you don't know yet,

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Speaker 1: With the Super Bowl right around the corner and in

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Speaker 1: your podcasts. On this special edition of Earning It Calls You,

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Speaker 1: bat Rain was the best thing that ever happened to him.

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Speaker 1: take you inside the greatest show on Earth. Can no,

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Speaker 1: we can't, the Super Bowl Halftime Show. Hello, and welcome

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Speaker 1: back to Earning It. I'm Sam Rappaport. For those of

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Speaker 1: you who haven't listened to our earlier episodes, this show

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Speaker 1: What an incredible season? I had more pinch me moments

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Speaker 1: stunt like that, then there's a price to pay for it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I for one, like, my life wasn't

428
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: ended with the showing of a nipple. I mean to

429
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I've missed it. Like you know,

430
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't like it wasn't like my eyes were blue

431
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: to the to the TV, like what did you know?

432
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: I think I was in the kitchen and everyone started

433
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: screaming like, oh my god, like they didn't know what

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00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: they saw. But as far as the outrage was concerned, um,

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00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: I see it as as fake outrage. There's not a

436
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: single thing that happens in that show that is not

437
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: run by every single stakeholder in the Super Bowl world,

438
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: from the NFL to Pepsi in our case, to whatever

439
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: network it's on, Like everybody literally gets a minute by

440
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: minute of what you will see, who's gonna do, what,

441
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: what they're wearing. Everything has to be approved in advance,

442
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: well in advance they're they're at So you're saying like

443
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: they would have to completely never rehearse it, never talk

444
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: about it, never anything. I just don't think that's possible too.

445
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: I do think that's possible, but I also think that

446
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: that is really, really, really risky for a lot of reasons.

447
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: And if the producer said she felt betrayed, that would

448
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: make me feel like some people were like, oh, do it,

449
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: It'll be fine. And then when everybody was like clutches pearls,

450
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: they were like, point the finger. If she did this,

451
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: like that would make me be like, but you guys

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Speaker 1: approve this. Next up, Dion takes us inside this year's

453
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: halftime show. You know, I think they all feel a responsibility,

454
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: like we are doing this for our community. We're coming

455
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: back to our community, and this is for them. I

456
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: think there's some added weight to this that maybe hasn't

457
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: been a part of other Super Bowls. You know, they

458
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: owe this is their community. Plus, she and quest Love

459
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: share their favorite shows in halftime history and what they

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Speaker 1: dream to see in halftime future. Hey, it's Collin Wolf.

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Speaker 1: Joined me and my co host Erica Tampozzy on the

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Speaker 1: Split Ends podcast live from Radio Row. We'll be interviewing

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00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: players and celebrities with the hard hitting questions that you

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00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: need to know, and we're doing it with a Bingo wheel.

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Speaker 1: Tune into Split Ends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. This year's halftime show,

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Speaker 1: super Bowl fifty six has what I consider a dream lineup,

468
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: Doctor Dre, Kendrick Lamar, Mary J. Blige, Snoop Dogg, Eminem

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00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: Dion called it the blackest show in Super Bowl history.

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Speaker 1: It's also a way to honor La where this game

471
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Speaker 1: is being held in the brand new, beautiful Sofi Stadium.

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Speaker 1: The most significant thing about the Super Bowl is the

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Speaker 1: fact that it's in Inglewood. When we found out that

474
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Speaker 1: these were the artist it was what I hoped when

475
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: I found out it was so Fi, I was like,

476
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Speaker 1: oh my god, it would be so amazing if it

477
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Speaker 1: were like Dre and Snoop. And it was this whole

478
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: West Coast moment. And you know, we got the call

479
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: from Rock Nation that that's who the artists were, and

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Speaker 1: we were thrilled. And I think the full circle moment

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Speaker 1: of you know these artists and you know, Mary's from

482
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Speaker 1: New York and Eminem's from Detroit, but Dre, Snoop and

483
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: Kendrick came up in really rough parts of Los Angeles,

484
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: you know, really tough upbringings. They overcame a lot to

485
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Speaker 1: get where they are. So the full circle moment of

486
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: kind of imagining them as youth navigating the streets of

487
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: LA during the times, you know, some of the worst

488
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Speaker 1: time in this city to now being on the biggest

489
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: world stage in their city. You know, I think they

490
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: all feel a responsibility, like we are doing this for

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Speaker 1: our community. We're coming back to our community, and this

492
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: is for them. I asked her for a tease of

493
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: what to expect. She smiled and would only say that

494
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: doctor Dre plays a central role in the story. He

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00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: is the glue that holds all of this together. You know,

496
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: Dre was responsible for Snoop. You know Dre was responsible

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Speaker 1: for Eminem and Kendrick. You know, he had a huge

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Speaker 1: hand in Mary's career and has produced albums for her.

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Speaker 1: So in the way that he's a producer, he is

500
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Speaker 1: like the artist producer of the Super Bowl. She hopes

501
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: the show will go down in history as one of

502
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Speaker 1: those iconic performances like You two and O two, Prince

503
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: in oh seven or Beyonce times too. Was she that

504
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: formation that to me was the the the blackest moment

505
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: at a Super Bowl halftime show, and I loved it.

506
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: I was there for that. Quest Love called it one

507
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 1: of the most magical things he's seen on stage. A

508
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: lot of people say she stole the show from the

509
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Speaker 1: headline or coal play with her tribute to black culture.

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00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: It's interesting because I think Beyonce is really the only

511
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: artist who could have done that, because she just I

512
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't even know how to explain what

513
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: I mean by that, but you know, such a blatant,

514
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: clear message of just like black lives matter, pride and

515
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: resistance and protest. But you know, there there was a

516
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: world when you know, a black woman would definitely be canceled, like,

517
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's angry, that's scary, Like we don't

518
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: do that all lives whatever it is. But she was

519
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: able to perform that message loud and clear, and it

520
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: resonated to everybody, and I didn't seem much negative about it.

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00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: I mean, some of it could have been that maybe

522
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Speaker 1: people didn't even understand how truly black that moment. It

523
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: was like that might have been super inside her baseball,

524
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: but we were all like, you know, but it it

525
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: was empowering. Especially in that moment of time. It was

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Speaker 1: a huge moment in Beyonce's career. The Super Bowl has

527
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: a way of moving the needle for artists, even when

528
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: they're already household names. I felt that the Gaga moment

529
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: was a game changer for her, and she flew, which

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00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: you don't see a lot. The Lady Gaga Show was

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Speaker 1: one of my producer Jane's top moments too. On the

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Speaker 1: top of the roof and then she comes down and

533
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: she singing and moving and doing acrobatics. She is all

534
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: over that stage. Then she's at the piano. She stops,

535
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: says HI to her mom and dad. It is so incredible,

536
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: it's so aerobic. Her voice sounded good. She did the

537
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: perfect you know medley of her songs. She kind of

538
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: paid tribute to the league, I thought, in a really

539
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: great way, and I thought she set that bar so

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Speaker 1: high for everybody coming after her. For me, that was

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Speaker 1: such a moment for Gaga to prove that that was her.

542
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: That was her moment, in my opinion, to really deliver

543
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Speaker 1: on the promise of what we wanted her to be.

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Speaker 1: And I almost feel as though that an entire moment

545
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: that she rose the occasion and really showed not even America,

546
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: but the world as a creative, as an artist, as

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Speaker 1: as an a list celebrity, that she indeed had a

548
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Speaker 1: good to deliver. So, my god, this is one of

549
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: those moments that I felt allowed her the leverage to

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00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: continue to go on. It's crazy this surprise element too,

551
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: because when she starts and she's singing America the Beautiful,

552
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: You're like, wait, didn't this already happen in the pre show?

553
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: Like what are we doing? Like this is not what

554
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: I'm here for. I know, disrespect that being patriotic, but

555
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: you're like, and then for her to just dive down

556
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: and she's hanging, she's flying, she's doing all of these things.

557
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 1: I think that surprise element made it hit that much harder.

558
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: So Lady Gaga twenty seventeen makes the list of the

559
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Speaker 1: best we've covered YouTube Diana Ross, Beyonce, Michael Jackson as

560
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: for the very best in halftime history. Though we all

561
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: agreed it's one name I want to see in the brain.

562
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: I felt that that was probably the I felt that

563
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: was the first genuine moment that an artist that really

564
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: didn't fall in line with the unspoken white elephant of

565
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: quote unquote American values. Like you know, I would like

566
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: to think that when they're choosing, you know, you're either

567
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: choosing someone who's like next to God, like with Michael

568
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: Jackson's like that's next to God. With Dinah Ross that's like, well,

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00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: she's part of the Motown Ilk. So you know, all

570
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: Motown artists sort of get that that pass. So you know,

571
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: it's it's it's easier. You know, there was a year

572
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: where then the then the Blues Brothers wants to do

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00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: a year or two like I remember Akroyd when Blues Brothers,

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Speaker 1: uh the sequel came out. I think they were a

575
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: halftime at so it's almost right. So I almost feel

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00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: as though that Prince was the first time that an

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00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: artist that clearly his younger self would have given the

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00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: middle finger to the idea of this sort of amalgamation Americana.

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Speaker 1: And you know, he's playing ball because it's different than

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00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: like the Rolling Stones doing it, or the year that

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00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: Paul McCartney did it. You know, Prince is not like

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00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: he didn't come to us in American Pie or next

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00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: to God format that the Stones and Michael Jackson did,

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00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: so for him to do it, that was the first

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00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: time where I finally saw the NFL organization and the

586
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl sort of coming to our side of the fence,

587
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, like you have to meet in the middle,

588
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: and he cleared, he delivered her like that rain was

589
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: the best thing that ever happened to him. It almost

590
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: it was like he's magic, He's actually magic. Yes, he

591
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: made this happen. This is another one of those shows

592
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: you have to go back and watch. It's pouring rain

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00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: and Prince is performing with pyrotechnics, electric guitars and a

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00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: full band. When he starts playing purple rain, the entire

595
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: stadium sings along just to see him in that environment.

596
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: And it can just night time. This beautiful curtain blowing

597
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: in the wind and the shadow on it, with his

598
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: symbol guitar and the rain. I mean, it was just

599
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: really it gives me goose bumps even to this day

600
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: thinking about it. Every time I see it, every time

601
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: I hear like hearing the rule or of that room, stadium.

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00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: It just really I don't know if you could ever

603
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: talk that because every single element combined to make that happen,

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00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: and in twenty seventy on, it was it wasn't just raining,

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00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: it was we woke up and it would be pouring

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00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: rain buckets of rain, right and right before the show

607
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: was about the halftime show was about to start. To

608
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: as a producer, now, how how would you have handled that?

609
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: I feel like my entire job is like problem solutions.

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00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: Something happens, deal with the show must go on. So

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00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do in that moment. I mean

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00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: you can't you know, phone the weather and say, hey,

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00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: can you stop this for fifteen minutes? So you really

614
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: just have to you know, there are contingencies. I'm sure

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00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: they had some contingencies in place, and it's really a

616
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: game time decision, and there are a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: What this team does is mind boggling. The show itself

618
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: is a precisely produced twelve minutes, made more challenging by

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Speaker 1: the fact that the crew has roughly five minutes to

620
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,479
Speaker 1: set everything up and another five to break everything down.

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Speaker 1: I mean literally the moment halftime starts, that exact second

622
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: everyone gets out and they start building, and then once

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Speaker 1: everything is done, you'll kind of have lights down that moment.

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Speaker 1: You'll hear the voice, you know, welcome to the Pepsi

625
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty six app time show, and then boom,

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Speaker 1: your show starts right there, and I mean from that

627
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: last kind of hero shot, you know, you think your

628
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: white shot, all of the bells and whistles. The moment

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Speaker 1: that that's done, that clock starts counting down and then

630
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: you're taking everything off in this perfect choreograph routine, and

631
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: then it's over and it goes spy like a like

632
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: a snap. It's crazy, like you look up and you're like,

633
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't believe like that just happened.

634
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: It's an incredibly complicated dance that hundreds of people spend

635
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: weeks practicing. This year, Dion's team has constructed the set

636
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: at a nearby airplane hangar where they're rehearsing every single

637
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: move by every single person from stage hand to superstar. Well,

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Speaker 1: the good thing is that's what rehearsals are for. So

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Speaker 1: in those rehearsals, we will run through everything. We'll stop down,

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Speaker 1: we'll go, we'll stop rewind, we'll look, you know at

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Speaker 1: this camera's great, And you're really planning all of that

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00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: in advance so that hopefully by game day you're kind

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00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: of moving on autopilot. Dion, in addition to producing one

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00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: of the biggest Super Bowl halftime shows, we've ever seen

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Speaker 1: this year. You also made history last year in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, is the first black woman, the first woman

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Speaker 1: of color to produce a Super Bowl halftime show. And

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00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: there was so much intentionality cross the board with everyone

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Speaker 1: who was hired to bring this to life. Talk to

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Speaker 1: us about that impact, what that means to you. I

651
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: mean it, you don't even think about it. It's someone

652
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: just set it in passing last year and I was like, what, Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy. I had no idea. And you know, there

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00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 1: is a just a sense of pride and a sense

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Speaker 1: of responsibility. And we had a lot of women in

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Speaker 1: key roles on the show, and it wasn't even like

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Speaker 1: we got to get a bunch of women in here.

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00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: These women are truly the top of their field and

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00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: the best people to come put this show together, which

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00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: had so many challenges because of COVID. But Lyla Nicole,

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Speaker 1: she was the first Latina department head. She ran wardrobe.

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Speaker 1: She's coming back this year. Is well as Devlin, who

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Speaker 1: was the creative mind behind the design of the Weekend's

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Speaker 1: set and is also the creative director for us this year,

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Speaker 1: so it's amazing to have her back. But Tima Robinson,

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Speaker 1: who is a choreographer who's worked on two or three

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls in the past, and she's coming back and

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Speaker 1: joining us. So, you know, another year with a lot

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Speaker 1: of really strong women in key positions, and this show

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Speaker 1: is made even more special by the fact that Mary J.

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Speaker 1: Blige will be the only female headliner on the stage.

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Speaker 1: When I think about Mary, there is a Mary J.

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Speaker 1: Blige song for every moment in my life. If I'm happy,

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Speaker 1: if I'm sad, if I'm mad, if I'm frustrated, if

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00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm in love, if I had a breakup. And I

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00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: think that she has this voice that people connect with,

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00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: and she's down to earth. I mean, she's like your

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00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: girlfriend that you can have drinks with and hang out with.

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00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: There's no pretenses about her and for her to be

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Speaker 1: such a huge star and to have sold millions and

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Speaker 1: millions of records and toured the world many times over

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Speaker 1: all of the awards, has remained grounded and you know,

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Speaker 1: just continues to inspire the next generation of singers, but

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Speaker 1: is still also out there making music and touring and

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Speaker 1: being the big star that she is. I think in

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Speaker 1: this lineup, she is one of the few women that

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Speaker 1: can stand and hold her own next to these humongous

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Speaker 1: personalities that are around her. I couldn't let Dione and

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Speaker 1: quest Love go without asking them for their dream halftime lineups.

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Speaker 1: Not that you asked, but mine would be a nod

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Speaker 1: to nineties female hip hop and wrap artists including Lauren Hill,

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Speaker 1: Missy Elliott, Lil Kim, Foxy Brown, and TLC. You know

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Speaker 1: what I would love to see and it could still happen,

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Speaker 1: and I'm certain that you know I. I think I

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Speaker 1: would love to see kind of a Pete Funk red

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Speaker 1: out Chili Peppers, just just a George Clinton kind of

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00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: lad because he's theatrical and he fits right into it.

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Speaker 1: And I mean he is a staple whether America wants it.

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00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just as American as apple pieus, you know,

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00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: and he's he's a He's I don't even consider McCall artist,

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00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: like what he's done for funk music, which should be acknowledged.

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Speaker 1: Like I feel as though George Clinton, that could be

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Speaker 1: very interesting to see. I think I would love to

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Speaker 1: see just for the creativity and theatrics of it. Tyler

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00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: the Creator and Frank Ocean that that there's nothing more

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00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: inside baseball than this bearing but it would be like

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Speaker 1: the most visually stunning created. I would have to obviously,

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Speaker 1: are you ready? Because you know and I know that

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Speaker 1: if Tyler ever given, if you give Tyler an inch,

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00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: but I'm sorry. I did his last two performances, Amaze

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00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: where it snowed on him and he rode off in

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00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: a Vespa and the BDT Awards where he was blown

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Speaker 1: away with debris. I love working with him like I

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Speaker 1: love his team. I feel like, if you give him

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Speaker 1: this canvas of this field and say come up with

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Speaker 1: thirteen minutes, I would just be like, what is it?

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Speaker 1: Tell me, I'm ready, let's do it. Well, Commissioner Cadell,

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Speaker 1: if you're listening, Tyler the creator Frank Ocean twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: d As the producer, We're going to put that out

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Speaker 1: in the universe. Oh you better believe. I will make

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Speaker 1: sure he's listening. He doesn't always love my input over

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Speaker 1: the dinner table, but when I tell him tonight that

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Speaker 1: it came from Dion and quest Love, well, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what those two are. The dream lineup for the

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Speaker 1: finale of our first season of the Urnat Podcast a

726
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: huge thanks to both Dion Harmon and Quest Love for

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Speaker 1: being game to take us on a ride through halftime history. Jane,

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Speaker 1: this has been a blast. Thank you for forcing me

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Speaker 1: to this mic and for trusting me with the task

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Speaker 1: of bringing your ideas to life. Well, Sam, I would

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Speaker 1: say thank you because you're the one who actually brought

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Speaker 1: them to life. I felt like the interviews we got

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Speaker 1: from the biggest name starting with the commissioner and the

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Speaker 1: head coaches, the Ron Riveraz and Sean McDermott and come on,

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Speaker 1: Billy Jean King, you brought them to life because it's

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Speaker 1: the people who know you and trust you who opened up.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like we got terrific interviews because of that.

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Speaker 1: But also people came on the pod who just knew

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Speaker 1: of you, and they respected you so much and they

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00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: trusted you to open up. So thank you for making

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Speaker 1: it such a blast. And a special shout out to

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Speaker 1: the incredible badass iHeartMedia team, Sean Jason, Mike, Julia, Kurt Grace.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for making us sound amazing all season. Wow,

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00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: for many reasons. I'm not sure that this season could

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00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: get any more exciting. But let's go watch some football,

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Speaker 1: do it. Thanks. Thanks,