WEBVTT - Tech News: Tech and the Crisis in Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and I love all things tech. And this is the

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<v Speaker 1>tech news for Tuesday, August twenty four, twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to it, because there's a lot to cover.

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<v Speaker 1>The crisis in Afghanistan is devastating, but there are some

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<v Speaker 1>interesting ways that tech and tech related companies are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to help the people of Afghanistan. For example, Airbnb, which

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<v Speaker 1>often gets lumped in with tech companies because of the

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<v Speaker 1>software that handles bookings and such, has announced it will

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<v Speaker 1>supply temporary housing to up to twenty thousand Afghan refugees.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of people, but that's less than half

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<v Speaker 1>of those the US says it has evacuated for Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 1>so far, with thousands more attempting to flee the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Airbnb says it will fund the stays for those refugees,

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<v Speaker 1>giving them a safe place to live while they look

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<v Speaker 1>for more permanent housing. Airbnb CEO Brian Cheski called quote

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<v Speaker 1>the displacement and resettlement of Afghan refugees in the US

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<v Speaker 1>and elsewhere one of the biggest humanitarian crises of our

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<v Speaker 1>time end quote, which I think is a pretty darn

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<v Speaker 1>good summary. He also said he hopes that other leaders

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<v Speaker 1>of business will step up to try and help as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope the same thing. In related news and

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<v Speaker 1>Afghan app called at t Sab, and my apologies for

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<v Speaker 1>butchering the pronunciation of that is trying to help the

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<v Speaker 1>people of Kabul stay safe. The app publishes real time

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<v Speaker 1>reports of conflict, including you know, reports of gunfire or explosions.

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<v Speaker 1>It also reports on traffic congestion as well, clearly very

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<v Speaker 1>important if there's an incident going on in the area,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all in service of keeping the people of

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<v Speaker 1>the city informed and hopefully safe from harm. A ground

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<v Speaker 1>team in Cabool actually supplies the reports, so this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of automated service. It's rather one that's powered

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<v Speaker 1>by real humans that are on the scene. The team

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<v Speaker 1>posts the reports to a private WhatsApp group, and then

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<v Speaker 1>there's another team of fact checkers who review the reports

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<v Speaker 1>for accuracy. They remove any that are you know, unsubstantiated

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<v Speaker 1>in an effort to cut down on misinformation or perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>even disinformation. The app includes the ability to use location

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<v Speaker 1>data to send relevant alerts to people who could be

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<v Speaker 1>affected that way. Let's say that there's an incident in

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<v Speaker 1>your area, you would learn through it. You know about

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<v Speaker 1>it through the app through a notification, but for stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that would be happening, say across the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>the city, you wouldn't necessarily get that alert. Sarah Wa Hindi,

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<v Speaker 1>who founded the app, actually escape Cable for a second time,

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<v Speaker 1>I should add, and has worked to raise money from

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<v Speaker 1>within Afghanistan to support her efforts. She also recently took

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<v Speaker 1>steps to protect her employees in Afghanistan. She went to

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<v Speaker 1>delete all information about the female employees of the company

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<v Speaker 1>in order to protect them as the Taliban was advancing

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<v Speaker 1>across Afghanistan. The Taliban has extremist beliefs regarding women, such

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<v Speaker 1>as they have to remain at home unless they are

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<v Speaker 1>accompanied by a male relative. That's one of many incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>extreme rules the Taliban seeks to impose upon the population.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I'll be reporting on more stories from Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 1>in future episodes, but for now, let's switch our focus elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>So from Afghanistan to Malaysia, it's time to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the semiconductor shortage and COVID nineteen again. Now, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>in a shortage of semiconductors for several months now, with

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<v Speaker 1>practically retext sector affected as a result of this, from

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<v Speaker 1>personal computers to video game consoles, to automobiles and beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>We're seeing the shortage impact the supply chains of multiple

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<v Speaker 1>industries and this has a ripple effect on stuff like pricing.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, the auto market has seen skyrocketing prices, which

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<v Speaker 1>is in part a consequence of this shortage. Though it

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<v Speaker 1>does get a bit more complicated than that. So what

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<v Speaker 1>does Malaysia have to do with all of this, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the country has become an important part of the supply

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<v Speaker 1>chain for semiconductors. UH. They are a large center in

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<v Speaker 1>semiconductor testing, so they do a lot of the testing

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<v Speaker 1>of the tech to make sure that it's actually working

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<v Speaker 1>so q a UH. They also are a big part

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<v Speaker 1>of packaging, so they're part of that process too. But

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<v Speaker 1>COVID cases have been on the rise in Malaysia and

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<v Speaker 1>the seven day average of reported daily infections has gone

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<v Speaker 1>above windy thousand cases, which is pretty astonishing. The Malaysian

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<v Speaker 1>government has already granted certain exemptions to the manufacturing industries

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<v Speaker 1>in the country in an effort to keep the economy going,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially saying, you know, we're supposed to lock down, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're dependent upon you for our economy, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>continue to operate. But that has also meant that some

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<v Speaker 1>of these factories have had to shut down completely for

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<v Speaker 1>weeks at a time due to infected employees coming into work.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a serious vaccination push within Malaysia at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and according to the Health Ministry, fifty seven percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the country's population has received at least one dose of vaccine.

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<v Speaker 1>We're likely to see the effects of these disruptions for

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<v Speaker 1>months to come across multiple product lines, and businesses are

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<v Speaker 1>likely to struggle with keeping production going as they encounter

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<v Speaker 1>component shortages. While the semiconductor shortage is a huge headache

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<v Speaker 1>for the automotive industry, one company in particular is dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with a different technical problem, and that company is GM,

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<v Speaker 1>which has announced a recall of the Chevrolet Bolt as

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<v Speaker 1>in all of them. Every single Bolt vehicle that has

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<v Speaker 1>been manufactured and sold, including the newest ones on the market,

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<v Speaker 1>are all part of this recall. The issue is one

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<v Speaker 1>that folks in the text space have seen before, which

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<v Speaker 1>is battery problems, as in, you know, lithium batteries that

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<v Speaker 1>catch fire on their own. The batteries and Chevy bolts

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<v Speaker 1>come from the company l G. It's LG KIM to

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<v Speaker 1>be specific, and GM says after an investigation, the company

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<v Speaker 1>discovered ten cases in which faulty batteries caught fire. GM

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<v Speaker 1>traced the issue to two separate manufacturing problems that together

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<v Speaker 1>created a short circuit. And just in case you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>that term but you don't actually know what it means,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you a quick explanation. So electricity flows through

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<v Speaker 1>conductors right like you have a conductive substance, electricity can

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<v Speaker 1>flow to it. Well. Circuits are essentially a pathway made

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<v Speaker 1>out of conductive elements, and electricity will follow down this

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<v Speaker 1>pathway and somewhere along the way, the electricity does some work.

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<v Speaker 1>So like the classic example is it lights a lightbulb

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever before it continues on the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>pathway and ends at the other terminal. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>were to create a shortcut that bypassed the lightbulb and

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<v Speaker 1>went from one terminal to the other directly, electricity would

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<v Speaker 1>take that path. It would be the easiest path for

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<v Speaker 1>it to get to where it quote unquote wants to go.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you're talking about batteries, if you create a

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<v Speaker 1>shortcut for electrons to go from the negative terminal to

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<v Speaker 1>the positive terminal really quickly, well, the battery tends to

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<v Speaker 1>heat up because the electrochemical process that generates the electrons

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place, it ramps up faster and faster,

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<v Speaker 1>and this can lead to a fire or even an explosion.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the case with Samsung's Galaxy phone a few

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, and it appears to be a similar issue

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<v Speaker 1>with a Chevy Bolt. GM says that the recalls, which

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<v Speaker 1>cover more than one thousand vehicles, are likely to cost

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<v Speaker 1>the company nearly two billion dollars, and it also said

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<v Speaker 1>it plans to seek reimbursement from LG, which just makes

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<v Speaker 1>me think of a very advanced version of the joke

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<v Speaker 1>from Better Off Dead two billion dollars, I want my

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<v Speaker 1>two billion dollars. I don't know how many of you

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<v Speaker 1>out there have actually seen Better Off Dead and recognize

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<v Speaker 1>that reference, but never mind. Making dense batteries is a challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>like making batteries that can hold enough energy storage so

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<v Speaker 1>that they can do what we need them to do

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<v Speaker 1>that's already very hard to do, making them in mass quantities,

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<v Speaker 1>while ruling out defects is even harder. But these are

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<v Speaker 1>challenges that will need to overcome as the world creeps

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<v Speaker 1>towards electrification of vehicle fleets. Right if we start to

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<v Speaker 1>push more and more towards electric vehicles, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we should in an effort to remove transportation as a

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<v Speaker 1>big source of carbon emissions, while we obviously have to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that the batteries that were depending upon are

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<v Speaker 1>reliable and safe. US President Joe Biden is reportedly hosting

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<v Speaker 1>a cybersecurity meeting in the near future, and big names

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<v Speaker 1>like Apple CEO Tim Cook and Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella

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<v Speaker 1>are among the guest list. The assumption is that this

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<v Speaker 1>group will be called to discuss recent high profile cybersecurity

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<v Speaker 1>issues such as the rise of ransomware and the emergence

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<v Speaker 1>of supply chain cyber attacks. And just to define some terms,

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<v Speaker 1>ransomware is a specific subset of malware that locks down

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<v Speaker 1>systems or otherwise makes data inaccessible to users unless they

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<v Speaker 1>pay a ransom to the hackers, typically in the form

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<v Speaker 1>of cryptocurrency. These attacks can center on individuals like you

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<v Speaker 1>could get targeted by a ransomware attack, but it's more

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<v Speaker 1>common to see hacker take aim at really big organizations

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<v Speaker 1>where they can have a really big payday, particularly ones

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<v Speaker 1>that rely heavily on digital information, such as healthcare organizations

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<v Speaker 1>where that is critical to their operation, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>companies in the tech sector in general. A supply chain

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<v Speaker 1>attack is a an attack where hackers focus on the

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<v Speaker 1>company that supplies software to other companies. So imagine a

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<v Speaker 1>company that creates like administrative software that's used in corporate offices,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got a lot of organizations, like big companies

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<v Speaker 1>that rely on this particular administrative product. That's what they

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<v Speaker 1>use to keep their records or whatever. So these hackers

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<v Speaker 1>in this case would go in and target that software company.

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<v Speaker 1>They would try to infiltrate that company systems and then

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<v Speaker 1>plant malware into the code of a software patch. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when the patch goes out to all the company's customers,

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<v Speaker 1>the customers, because they trust the software patch because it's

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<v Speaker 1>coming from a known source, it's coming from a vendor

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<v Speaker 1>they work with, they install that patch, and unknowingly they

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<v Speaker 1>introduced the malware into their own systems. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing we suspected happened with solar winds, though

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<v Speaker 1>later reports made that a little more muddy and complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>The Verge published an article about this. But the companies

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<v Speaker 1>I see listed, which include the Southern Company, IBM, Google, JP,

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<v Speaker 1>Morgan Chase, and Amazon in addition to Google and Apple,

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<v Speaker 1>all these companies are are obviously big tech companies. They

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<v Speaker 1>or they are related to tech, or depend heavily on tech. Undoubtedly,

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<v Speaker 1>they all have departments that focus on cybersecurity, but none

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<v Speaker 1>of them are actual cyber security companies. And I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>if the White House is also inviting security researchers from

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<v Speaker 1>one of or maybe more than one of the big

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<v Speaker 1>security research firms out there, in addition to these high

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<v Speaker 1>profile companies. I don't know. The White House hasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>commented on it. We have some more stories to cover,

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<v Speaker 1>but before we get to that, let's take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back turning to Apple. Apple turnomer. The company recently

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<v Speaker 1>announced that employees will not be returning to the office

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<v Speaker 1>in October after all, and October was already delayed. The

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<v Speaker 1>original plan was to come back in September, but then

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<v Speaker 1>the company pushed that back to October, and CEO Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Cook famously posted a memo that talked up the benefits

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<v Speaker 1>of being at work in an office environment with the

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<v Speaker 1>announcement that employees would be expected to go into the

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<v Speaker 1>office at least three days a week. While Apple employees

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<v Speaker 1>objected to this, and an internal survey showed that the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of employees were not in favor of a return

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<v Speaker 1>to the office while the pandemic was still going on

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<v Speaker 1>well due to coronavirus numbers continuing to rise and the

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<v Speaker 1>dangers of the delta variant as well as other ants.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Apple employees won't be expected to return to the

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<v Speaker 1>office until January of next year. Now I'm thankful for that,

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<v Speaker 1>because I really think pushing to go back to the

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<v Speaker 1>office while the numbers are so bad is beyond irresponsible.

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<v Speaker 1>Other tech companies like Facebook and Amazon have made similar

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<v Speaker 1>decisions for a corporate employees, and that brings me to

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<v Speaker 1>another point that I need to stress this really does

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<v Speaker 1>only apply to corporate employees. The people who work in

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<v Speaker 1>the corporate offices of these companies. Amazon and Apple both

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<v Speaker 1>still have employees who have to go to work in

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<v Speaker 1>various like warehouses and stores and whatnot, so there is

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<v Speaker 1>a sharp divide here. Right. The corporate employees are allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to work remotely, but other employees they're required

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<v Speaker 1>to go in and that's a pretty tough issue to

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<v Speaker 1>get into. I'm gonna save that for a full episode

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<v Speaker 1>because I do think it's something that we need to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. In other Apple News, employees are organizing at

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<v Speaker 1>the company to voice concerns about the company these policies, processes,

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<v Speaker 1>and culture. As part of that strategy, the employees have

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<v Speaker 1>launched a website. That website is Apple to dot us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Apple t oo dot us. They have issued a

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<v Speaker 1>statement about their plans, which I'll read part of right now. Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>For too long, Apple has evaded public scrutiny. The truth

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<v Speaker 1>is that for many Apple workers are reality faced disproportionately

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<v Speaker 1>by our black, Indigenous, and other colleagues from minoritized, racial, gender,

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<v Speaker 1>and historically marginalized groups of people. The culture of secrecy

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<v Speaker 1>creates an opaque, intimidating fortress. When we press for accountability

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<v Speaker 1>and redress to the persistent injustices we witness or experience

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<v Speaker 1>in our workplace, we are faced with a pattern of isolation, degradation,

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<v Speaker 1>and gas lighting. No more. We've exhausted all internal avenues

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked with our leadership, we've gone to the people team,

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<v Speaker 1>we've escalated through business conduct. Nothing has changed. It's time

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<v Speaker 1>to think different. A group of Apple workers have joined

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<v Speaker 1>together to organize and protect ourselves. We are asking fellow

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<v Speaker 1>Apple workers who want to see real change at Apple

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<v Speaker 1>to share their stories. End quote. This statement goes on

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<v Speaker 1>there's actually a lot more at the website, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can read the whole thing at Apple two dot us.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the Verge, the group of employees consisted of

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<v Speaker 1>around fifteen current and former Apple employees, so not not

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<v Speaker 1>a huge group. However, they are already getting support among

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<v Speaker 1>other current and former Apple employees who are posting their

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<v Speaker 1>stories and the site is publishing them as well. As

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<v Speaker 1>some of these stories are getting published in internal communications

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<v Speaker 1>channels like Slack channels and stuff at Apple. So we

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<v Speaker 1>will continue to follow this story as it develops. And

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<v Speaker 1>now for some stories about hacking and cryptocurrency. The Verge

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<v Speaker 1>reports that a hacker who stole around six hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars worth a cryptocurrency from a company called the Polly

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<v Speaker 1>Network has returned the assets. And you might be saying, what,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean, I know I was, well it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out that this particular hacker found an exploit and decided

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<v Speaker 1>to take the assets and then store those assets, those

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<v Speaker 1>stolen cryptocurrencies into a trusted account while the hacker then

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<v Speaker 1>communicated with Polly Network and Polly Network worked to patch

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<v Speaker 1>the vulnerability. Apparently, the hacker decided to do this because

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<v Speaker 1>they felt it was just a matter of time before

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<v Speaker 1>someone else spotted this vulnerability and then stole crypto. But

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<v Speaker 1>for real zes, this hacker a a white hat hacker type,

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<v Speaker 1>was really making a big statement, and so once Polly

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<v Speaker 1>fixed the problem, the hacker returned all those assets, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Polly network then invited the hacker to serve as

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<v Speaker 1>the chief security adviser for the company, which was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cute, and the hacker even asked that some of

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<v Speaker 1>the hacker's own money taken from a half million dollar

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<v Speaker 1>bounty that Polly Network paid for the reporting of the

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<v Speaker 1>bug in the first place, that some of that might

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<v Speaker 1>should be distributed to the quote unquote survivors of the

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<v Speaker 1>escapade to make up for the inconvenience and stress of

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<v Speaker 1>having money stolen, even though it was just a temporary thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No word yet on whether Polly customers will stick with

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<v Speaker 1>the company in the wake of this experience, or if

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<v Speaker 1>they'll look to port their assets to some other organization. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>in Sweden, authorities are legally required to return bitcoins to

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<v Speaker 1>a convicted drug dealer because of the way things were

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<v Speaker 1>worded during the dealer's sentencing. See after being convicted of

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<v Speaker 1>the crime of dealing drugs, the court ruled that the

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<v Speaker 1>dealer should be stripped of his earnings as a drug dealer.

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<v Speaker 1>Those earnings were in bitcoin. He had earned thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin as a drug dealer, and around the time when

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<v Speaker 1>he was arrested, those bitcoin were worth around a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven thousand dollars. Now, apparently the sentencing framed this

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<v Speaker 1>in the form of standard Swedish currency rather than bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 1>saying all right, well, we need the the equivalent amount

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<v Speaker 1>in cash seized from this drug dealer. But by the

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<v Speaker 1>time the Swedish enforcement authority was ready to actually auction

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<v Speaker 1>off the cryptocurrency to get the equivalent cash, the value

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<v Speaker 1>of bitcoin had increased dramatically and the whole one seven

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars worth of fine only required three bitcoins to

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<v Speaker 1>cover it. And because the court didn't demand the bitcoin instead,

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<v Speaker 1>they demanded that cash equivalent of bitcoin at the time

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<v Speaker 1>of sentencing, which was around a hundred thirty seven thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>That meant that the other thirty three bitcoin could not

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<v Speaker 1>be auctioned off because the court had already received the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of money and had demanded and those thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin had to be returned to the drug dealer and

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<v Speaker 1>that is now worth around one point six million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently crime does pay, and this is another example of

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<v Speaker 1>how courts around the world are really struggling to keep

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<v Speaker 1>up with how things change in the text space. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people have said, well, this just

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<v Speaker 1>shows that the sentencing needs to be more specific about

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<v Speaker 1>taking the bitcoin that was earned as opposed to the

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<v Speaker 1>cash equivalent of whatever the bitcoins value was at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Lesson learned. Alright, that wraps up the big news stories

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<v Speaker 1>for Tuesday, August one. Will be back later in the

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