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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

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Speaker 2: Will not let what happened in Europe happen to America.

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Speaker 2: That's why on my first day back in office, I

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Speaker 2: should be imposed. Very simply, we cannot have open migration

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Speaker 2: And nothing will stop us from keeping America saying common sense.

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Speaker 3: Is that if you are able body, if you are

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Speaker 3: receiving government. And so again, historically both Republicans and Democrats

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Speaker 3: have been for this, and I think the time is now,

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Speaker 3: The season is now to implement work requirements, to implement

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Speaker 4: Failure is not an option, and we didn't intend to

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Speaker 4: deliver along with the President for the American people on

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Speaker 4: the things that he committed to do. We intend on energy,

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Speaker 4: on national security, on spending reductions, on tax policy, on

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Speaker 4: the American people care about, to make them more safe,

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Speaker 5: Prosperous displayed heightened uncertainty. The economy is still in a

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Speaker 5: solid position. The unemployment rate remains low, and the labor

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Speaker 5: market is at or near maximum employment. Inflation has come

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Speaker 5: goals Today, if oer Open Market Committee decided to leave

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Speaker 6: Unchanged, I'd like to congratulate Democrats for riding yourselves of

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Speaker 6: this untalented mediocrity. I mean, this is the most self

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Speaker 6: aggrandizing liar that has ever.

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Speaker 7: Held this job.

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Speaker 6: The White House Press secretary is a sacred position, and

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Speaker 6: she stood up there for years and lied through her

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Speaker 6: teeth to the American people.

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Speaker 8: My friend, and not the first.

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Speaker 6: She is the little worst White House Press secretary in

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Speaker 6: my lifetime. And what she did in the last year

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Speaker 6: year and a half of the Biden administration cheap fakes,

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Speaker 6: the entire cover up around the President's metal faculties.

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Speaker 9: She was in the center of it.

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Speaker 7: So if this individual puffed up on the radar and

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Speaker 7: his family who he brought here is also illegal.

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Speaker 1: ICE is going to take that action.

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Speaker 10: We're not going to walk away from anyone that's here

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Speaker 10: illegal in the country.

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Speaker 11: But it's also important to point out we have another crack.

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Speaker 11: This is all for non discretionary or mandatory spending. We

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Speaker 11: have the appropriations process to cut back on discretionary spending.

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Speaker 12: Then we have this.

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Speaker 11: Recisions package that the White House has moved forward yesterday

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Speaker 11: for some of those dos cus. No one affiliated with

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Speaker 11: the CCP, and I've got legislation with this should have

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Speaker 11: a visa to be a student in any university in

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Speaker 11: the United States of America. We are under no obligation

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Speaker 11: to educate and train people affiliated with our enemy, and

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Speaker 11: that's exactly what's happening here. So I think Lauren starts

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Speaker 11: with a recognition of who we're dealing with. This is

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Speaker 11: a communist regime that has concentration camps and there hell

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Speaker 13: So I think the ideological diversity the universities has to

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Speaker 13: get much better. And I think that if that got better,

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Speaker 13: if you actually had a place where people were open

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Speaker 13: to debating these things.

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Speaker 14: And weren't terrified they were going to lose their job

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Speaker 13: Something that was a little bit outside the Overton window.

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Speaker 15: Then I think the science would get.

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Speaker 13: Better, the reproducibility would get better, the quality of the

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Speaker 13: institution would be so much better. And that's what I

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Speaker 15: The problem is we.

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Speaker 9: Don't have them.

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Speaker 15: And we all know one thing.

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Speaker 16: Donald Trump is just lying about the bill.

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Speaker 14: Lying about the bill.

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Speaker 18: This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot.

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Speaker 17: Here we go up everybody, radio stations across the country.

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Speaker 14: That is Patrick Bette David, my friend PbD.

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Speaker 15: PbD.

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Speaker 14: Great to see you.

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Speaker 17: The audience loves hearing from you, and I'm glad that

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Speaker 15: And thirteen years thank you. That's a big deal.

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Speaker 17: I know we are officially a teenager at Turning Point, USA,

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Speaker 17: which I guess means that we now can get gender

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Speaker 8: I know it's very important to you and and you

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Speaker 8: know in a great many states you can do that.

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Speaker 15: But I'm very happy for you.

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Speaker 14: Thank you.

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Speaker 17: It's it's an amazing journey that we've been on and

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Speaker 17: just to see how the Lord has blessed us and

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Speaker 17: to see the impact that we've been able to make.

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Speaker 14: PbD.

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Speaker 17: I want to get your take because you have a

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Speaker 17: way of analyzing things and synthesizing them so crisply. What

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Speaker 17: do you make of President Trump's first couple of months,

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Speaker 17: the state of the country, the state of the Republican Party,

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Speaker 8: So you know, there's this notion, this quote that we've

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Speaker 8: all read before on when you're getting married, or you're

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Speaker 8: doing business with somebody, or when you're you know, asking

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Speaker 8: somebody investment to your company, you're raising money. You know,

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Speaker 8: it's better to underpromise an over deliver that have overpromise

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Speaker 8: based on a vision that you have that you want

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Speaker 8: peace and I'm going to end the war in Russia

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Speaker 8: and Ukraine didn't happen day one. Israel hamas you know,

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Speaker 8: hasn't happened yet. You know Epstein nine to eleven, you

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Speaker 8: know John F. Kennedy, all of these things. I think

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Speaker 8: he puts such a burden on himself of trying to

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Speaker 8: they voted for him. After what happened, the greatest comeback

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Speaker 8: ever in politics. We've never seen anything like this ever before, never,

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Speaker 8: not in baseball, not in sports, not hockey, not in anything.

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Speaker 8: This is, I believe, the greatest comeback we've ever seen.

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Speaker 8: Everybody wrote him off. A lot of people wrote him off.

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Speaker 8: So he came back and he said I'm going to

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Speaker 15: You know how I feel about you.

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Speaker 8: I call you the com nation of You're a once

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Speaker 8: in a generation type of a guy.

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Speaker 15: I said on a.

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Speaker 8: Show the other day that I think you're what if

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Speaker 8: Rush Limbaugh and Billy Graham had a son.

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Speaker 15: It would be you.

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Speaker 8: Because what you're doing is insane in a time like this.

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Speaker 8: And I say this behind your back all the time

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Speaker 8: to everybody, sause I really believe in that with you.

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Speaker 8: So when you do that you put a lot of

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Speaker 8: pressure on yourself. Now this isn't like he said that,

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Speaker 8: and he's taking three months off and he's just kind

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Speaker 8: of celebrating, going on talk shows, Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon

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Speaker 8: all these other shows like you know how I'm to

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Speaker 8: tell you how is the field that you did this?

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Speaker 8: And what is he's not doing? It is getting to

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Speaker 8: work right off the bat right. So, yes, there's gonna

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Speaker 8: be some challenges, some good, some bad, and ugly. Let's

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Speaker 8: go through some of the good. The good borders done.

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Speaker 8: You know who po Hey, what's going on? It's a

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Speaker 8: very rare reason why Fenton al cases have dropped and

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Speaker 8: all this safety security confidence, you know, kids, school, colleges

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Speaker 8: exposed to. But there's still a lot of issues that

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Speaker 8: we got to address, Charlie that is not there yet,

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Speaker 8: and he's having to negotiate a lot of deals. When

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Speaker 8: that's a lot. And you know, he probably was able

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Speaker 15: That's my opinion.

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Speaker 8: Now. Of course, he's got a great team. They're working

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Speaker 8: well together, they seem united. There's not been that much

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Speaker 8: My god, he's stepping on They said it's only going

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Speaker 17: I think you make a super smart point that I've

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Speaker 17: not heard anyone articulate the way that you just said it,

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Speaker 17: which is that President Trump could have kind of created

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Speaker 17: his own slow motion honeymoon period. He could have just

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Speaker 17: the White House and Honestly, that is the caricature the

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Speaker 17: to be on his second term he's just going to

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Speaker 17: kind of golf all the time. It's the opposite. He

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Speaker 17: work with a rapidity and a velocity that we've never

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Speaker 17: seen before. You mentioned President Trump's team, and I want

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Speaker 17: to ask you, PbD.

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Speaker 14: I think you're uniquely.

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Speaker 17: Positioned to comment on this because you are very, very

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Speaker 17: and all he did to help save Western civilization. What

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Speaker 15: So let's talk about.

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Speaker 14: The state of the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 17: You have a way of seeing things before they happen, PbD,

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Speaker 15: So here's the problem in life.

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Speaker 8: Right The Democratic Party right now is they don't know

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Speaker 8: what they stand for. They spend twenty million dollars on

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Speaker 8: this Taco campaign, and trying to talk about, you know,

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Speaker 8: President Trump, to get under his skin.

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Speaker 15: You think you're going to get under that guy's skin.

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Speaker 8: You think that guy you're going to be able to

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Speaker 8: agitate him, like Eric Swalwoll and you know, eating the

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Speaker 8: taco and going on Charlemagne. The guy thinking like he's

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Speaker 8: going to go agitate him. What I want to know

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Speaker 8: is your values and principles. Yesterday we had Stephen A.

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Speaker 8: Smith on the podcast, and he wants to run for president.

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Speaker 8: Let's say he does in twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 8: On many of the lists in the top five, top

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Speaker 8: me your top five values that if you were run

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Speaker 8: for president? What would your top five values be? He said,

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Speaker 8: number one it would be economy. I said great. Number

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Speaker 8: two would be border I said great. Number three, the

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Speaker 15: I don't know what.

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Speaker 8: Number five was, but number five would be more left

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Speaker 8: leaning policies.

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Speaker 15: I said great. I said, let's go on chat Gibt.

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Speaker 8: I went on Chat Gypt and I said, what are

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Speaker 8: the top five most important issues to Democrats today? And

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Speaker 8: we go through the five I said, are you for

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Speaker 8: that first one. He says, no, two, no three, no four.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 8: I said, you're not a Democrat, you're a conservative, and

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Speaker 8: you don't even know it.

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Speaker 15: He says, well, I don't know what's gonna happen. I said, no. No.

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Speaker 15: When you go out there and you're on stage, you.

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Speaker 8: Say shutting the border, they're gonna shut you down because

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Speaker 8: they don't want to close. When you get on stage

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Speaker 8: and you talk about economy and you don't have a

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Speaker 8: bunch of entitlement programs that you want to pay free

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Speaker 8: money out to people, they're not gonna vote for you.

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Speaker 8: If you get up on stage and say hey, we

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Speaker 8: got to stand up on a own two feet and

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Speaker 8: take care of our families.

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Speaker 15: And you get up on.

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Speaker 8: Stage and we got to get rid of vote volcan

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Speaker 8: families and schools, you're not gonna get their support. They

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Speaker 8: don't know what they stand for. And when you don't

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Speaker 8: know what you stand for, you can spend billions of

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Speaker 8: dollars on marketing, you're not gonna win people over. There's

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Speaker 8: got to be a message that cuts through people and

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Speaker 8: say you know what, I like what they have to say.

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Speaker 8: They don't have any values right now. Unfortunately, until they

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Speaker 8: find themselves. They're gonna be in this state that there

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Speaker 8: for a long time.

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Speaker 17: They're gonna try all sorts of different people to run.

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Speaker 17: Keep an eye on Steve Kerr. I think that is

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Speaker 17: a dark horse that they're going to try to draft.

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Speaker 17: He's you know, they're going to try to reach out

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Speaker 17: to young men. He's super left wing. I'm telling you

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Speaker 17: just keep an eye on that. He's very, very liberal.

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Speaker 17: And so just I was trying to think, who are

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Speaker 17: they going to try to draft, and you know he

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Speaker 17: kind of has some Midwest roots. He went to school

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Speaker 17: at University of Arizona. You try to run Ram Emmanuel.

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Speaker 17: I don't want to be too focused on twenty twenty

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Speaker 17: a minute a half remaining, PbD, what is your greatest

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Speaker 17: concern right now for the Trump administration in the Trump

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Speaker 17: White House that you think needs to be addressed. What

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Speaker 15: Who gets credit for what?

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Speaker 8: If they if they fight over who gets credit, it's

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Speaker 8: going to be it's gonna be catastrophic. Because I interviewed

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Speaker 8: the former Chief Disguise Officer of the CIA, Jona Mendez,

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Speaker 8: about ten years ago, and I said, what's the great

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Speaker 8: being charismatic? Is it being a great seducer? Is it

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Speaker 8: being great at doing needs analysis, getting questions? What is

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Speaker 15: He says, all of those things.

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Speaker 8: Plus, when you know you have intel that can prevent

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Speaker 8: the next war, you don't need the recognition for it.

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Speaker 8: You don't need to go out there and tell the

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Speaker 8: world about it. I just hope the Trump administration and

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Speaker 8: the leaders in there, they're all individually ambitious. I am

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Speaker 8: sure deep down inside Rubio's thinking about twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 8: I am sure JD's already thinking about those kinds of things.

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Speaker 8: They give me vibes of good values. I am sure

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Speaker 8: luck think has its own value. I am sure hexit.

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Speaker 8: But if we can forget about the credit and we

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Speaker 8: just go vision collectively together, twenty thirty forty fifty years

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Speaker 8: from that, history books are going to write about this

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Speaker 8: team in ways we've never seen before, never seen before,

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Speaker 8: and they can do something very special where Marca goes

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Speaker 8: on a run roaring twenties. I believe twenty twenty six

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Speaker 8: is going to be the greatest year we've had in

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Speaker 8: our lifetime. President Trump turns eighty on the fourteenth of

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Speaker 8: June two hundred and fiftyear anniversary. On the fourth of July.

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Speaker 8: World Cup is coming here. They can go on a run.

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Speaker 8: But as long as they stay united and don't worry

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Speaker 8: about credit.

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Speaker 17: It is amazing what people can do if they don't

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Speaker 17: care who gets the credit, and that is one of

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Speaker 17: the most important things pd Thank you so much everyone.

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Speaker 17: Check out the PVD podcast. When I'm back in Florida,

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Speaker 17: I can't wait to rejoin your wonderful show.

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Speaker 14: Thank you so much, my friend.

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Speaker 15: Thank you buddy.

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Speaker 14: Stephen Miller joins us.

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Speaker 8: Next.

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Speaker 14: It's gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 19: Stay right there, the hardest working radio show.

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Speaker 17: In the Businesslie, Okay, we have Stephen Miller with us.

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Speaker 17: This is going to be great. We're here at the

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Speaker 17: Bitcoin dot Com Studio. That's a bigcoin dot com studio.

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Speaker 17: I have lots of partners. I'm supposed to mention I

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Speaker 17: will put all of that into suspense because we're just

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Speaker 17: going to get right to Stephen Miller.

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Speaker 14: Stephen, my friend, thank you for joining. How are you

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Speaker 14: doing today?

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Speaker 20: Graduate that you, Charlie on your extraordinary success. You've been

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Speaker 20: such a critical element of the success of the Magma

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Speaker 20: movement in building this durable framework for pocket disc governance.

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Speaker 20: And so I hope your audience appreciates how much we

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Speaker 20: appreciate you.

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Speaker 17: Well, Thank you, Steven, and we have reciprocal respect here.

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Speaker 17: And I hope everyone in the audience understands that Stephen

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Speaker 17: and the White House every single day is holding down

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Speaker 17: the anchor of the populist nationalist MAGA movement. Every single day,

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Speaker 17: Stephen Miller is in the meetings, he is talking about

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Speaker 17: more deportations. He is going through the entire list of

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Speaker 17: what did we campaign on, what did we promise? And

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Speaker 17: are we delivering it? And you deserve a ton of

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Speaker 17: credit there, Stephen. We have some time and I want

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Speaker 17: to build momentum behind this big, beautiful bill because I

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Speaker 17: think some people are losing the profundity and the significance

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Speaker 17: of what this bill will actually accomplish.

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Speaker 14: What is in your opinion, the legislative history, the historical.

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Speaker 17: Significance behind this bill and what does it mean for

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Speaker 17: the conservative project more broadly?

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Speaker 20: Yes, such an excellent question, And let me start for

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Speaker 20: your audust doesn't know me as well. There's a little

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Speaker 20: bit and I normally wouldn't do this. A little bit

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Speaker 20: of extra context on myself. I started working in the

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Speaker 20: conservative movement like you, Charlie, when I was still a kid.

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Speaker 20: I was in high school. I went to war with

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Speaker 20: my administration and teachers at Santa Monica Public High School

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Speaker 20: over a radical left wing indoctrination. Carried on the fight

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Speaker 20: at Duke University thought relentlessly to defend the innocence of

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Speaker 20: the Duke lacrosse players. My first boss on Capitol Hill

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Speaker 20: was Michelle Bachman Minnesota. We were tea party before there

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Speaker 20: was a tea party. I spent my entire adult life

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Speaker 20: in this movement. In the summer of twenty fifteen, I

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Speaker 20: started working for President Trump, recognizing instantly that this was

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Speaker 20: the man who was going to finally be able to

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Speaker 20: create a winning formula for populist, nationalist conservative governance. That

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Speaker 20: he was going to be our antidote to the corruption,

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Speaker 20: to the failures, to the sinister machinations of our failed

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Speaker 20: eletes and the ruling class, which is why they spent

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Speaker 20: ten years trying to destroy him. That's what brings us

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Speaker 20: to this moment. I have waited my entire life, and

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Speaker 20: that I was older it would be. I would say

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Speaker 20: I'd been waiting for one hundred years, because there's never

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Speaker 20: been a bill like this bill since there has been

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Speaker 20: a conservative movement. This represents the culmination, in the case

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Speaker 20: of the Magnet Movement, of ten years of hard work.

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Speaker 20: This bill would have been unthinkable in twenty seventeen in

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Speaker 20: the Paul Ryan era. In this bill is the codification

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Speaker 20: of President Trump's most important campaign promises. It has done

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Speaker 20: through a process known as reconciliation, which allows us to

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Speaker 20: enact them into law with fifty votes, not sixty. No

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Speaker 20: Democrats are involved, There's no trading with Democrats. No Democrats

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Speaker 20: are involved in the writing or crafting in this bill,

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Speaker 20: nor is it ridden by the Appropriations Committee. This bill

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Speaker 20: is written by the most conservative lawmakers in Congress, people

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Speaker 20: like Jim Jordan. There is written out of the policy

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Speaker 20: making committees by the Republican members there. So, for example,

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Speaker 20: as has been much discussed, it fully funds the deportation agenda.

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Speaker 20: It fully funds massive expansions the number of ice deportation officers,

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Speaker 20: physical ceiling of the entire Southwest border. All of that money,

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Speaker 20: all that funding is provided up front. This was a

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Speaker 20: ten year plan. In other words, going back to twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 20: when Paul Ryan didn't give us the money for the

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Speaker 20: immigration project for ten years, we fought. Given the chance

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Speaker 20: to do it again, we would put all of the

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Speaker 20: immigration in the first bill out of the shoot up front.

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Speaker 20: That's what this bill does, and also significant additional changes

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Speaker 20: to the administration of our immigration system. For example, there's

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Speaker 20: language and here cracking down on nationwide injunctions. There's language

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Speaker 20: and here raising the fees on foreigners coming to our

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Speaker 20: country so that we can protect the American taxpayer. There's

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Speaker 20: language in here expanding the mission of the Defense Department

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Speaker 20: to seal and protect the US board. And I could

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Speaker 20: go on. Of course, the bill also includes in it

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Speaker 20: every single tax promise the President made on the campaign trail,

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Speaker 20: but in particular the pots of this tax promises to

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Speaker 20: forge that deep alliance with the working class of this country.

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Speaker 20: No tax on tips, no tax on social Security, no

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Speaker 20: tax in overtime. Look, if we're on Reagan had just

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Speaker 20: done no tax on tips. They've still been giving speeches

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Speaker 20: about it today at the Reagan Library. They have a

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Speaker 20: whole week at the Reagan Library. Just devote it to

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Speaker 20: that time that we're all Reagan to no taxion tips.

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Speaker 20: There'd be whole statues, there'd be a museum, displays, they'd

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Speaker 20: have entire industries built off of just telling the story

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Speaker 20: of the time Reagan did no tax on tips.

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Speaker 14: Isn't that right, Charlie, without a doubt.

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Speaker 17: I mean that alone is a It's such a major

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Speaker 17: political accomplishment. The Senate passes a ceremonial one hundred to nothing.

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Speaker 17: Everyone agrees, I know, tax on tips, and no one

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Speaker 17: has delivered it. So, Stephen, our audience wants more deportations.

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Speaker 17: Our audience wants to see the campaign promise and campaign

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Speaker 17: mandate fulfilled. How will this bill allow us to have

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Speaker 17: permanent border security, fully finance the wall, and allow us

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Speaker 17: to take our sovereignty in our country back.

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 20: So, in terms of the defense and the saving of

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Speaker 20: Western civilization, this bill is an hour never movement. For

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Speaker 20: those who say, well, split it up into a bunch

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Speaker 20: of different bills, you should understand what that would mean. First,

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Speaker 20: you would immediately change it from a fifty vote threshold

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Speaker 20: to a sixty vote threshold. I'm not here to justify

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Speaker 20: or explain Senate rules. I'm here to tell you reality,

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Speaker 20: and the reality is under the rules of the Senate,

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Speaker 20: you split it up. Each individual provision that is now

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Speaker 20: included in the big Beautiful Bill the pass of the

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Speaker 20: fifty votes that require sixty vuilt threshold, which would mean

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Speaker 20: none of them would be enacted into law, but particularly

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Speaker 20: the immigration provisions. Furthermore, not all members and I want

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Speaker 20: to be too specific here, but not all members of

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Speaker 20: the Republican Party have the same view about all of

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Speaker 20: these issues. By including the immigration language with the tax cuts,

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Speaker 20: with the welfare reform, it creates a coalition. Politics are

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Speaker 20: all about coalitions. They creates a coalition of across the Republican

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Speaker 20: Party to enact this legislation into law again, which is

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Speaker 20: fifty votes. The three major constraints on deportations are personnel,

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Speaker 20: prisons and planes. Personnel prisons and planes ICE prison is

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Speaker 20: also known as ICE bed's ICE Attention centers, ICE officers,

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Speaker 20: personnel planes, deportation planes. So the most fundamental level, this

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Speaker 20: bill is the largest ever increase in those three categories.

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Speaker 20: Just on the point about ICE officers as an example,

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Speaker 20: so ICE was created after nine to eleven to secure

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Speaker 20: immigration system. There's at least for a very brief and

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Speaker 20: fleeting period of time that was never acted upon. There

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Speaker 20: was an understanding that foreign migration was the principal national

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Speaker 20: security threat. Uncontrolled, unvetted, unchecked for migration created the conditions

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Speaker 20: for terrorism. So we created ICE. ICE has received no

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Speaker 20: increase in personnel since its creation. That's a remark, even

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Speaker 20: as the number of illegal aliens has exploded exponentially.

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Speaker 17: Repeat that so amazing. So we now have twenty five

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Speaker 17: million illegals, and yet ICE is still the same size

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Speaker 17: as it was twenty twenty years ago.

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Speaker 14: That's remarkable.

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Speaker 20: Yes, more than twenty years ago. There's less than six

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Speaker 20: thousand full time ICY.

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Speaker 15: Think about it.

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Speaker 17: Every other government agency grows by default, whoever understands this, right.

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Speaker 17: We get more TSA agents, we get more bureaucrats, we

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Speaker 17: get more mid level managers, we get more department education,

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Speaker 17: we get more DEI officers, we get more diversities ours.

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Speaker 17: But Stephen, you're telling me the one part of government

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Speaker 17: that we can all agree not to grow is the

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Speaker 17: one that we need the most.

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Speaker 20: Yes, it's been strangled on purpose for twenty plus years. Yes,

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Speaker 20: and so, just speaking on a personal level, a big

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Speaker 20: part of my own life's work, and of course it

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Speaker 20: is President Trump's vision, boldness, leadership, and stewardship of the

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Speaker 20: part of this bars to the point of this being

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Speaker 20: possible has been to just increase the number of ICE officers.

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Speaker 20: The appropriators have never agreed to do it in a generation.

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Speaker 20: And this bill is the largest increase of any federal

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Speaker 20: agency in a single bill. But this time not for

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Speaker 20: the bureaucrats, not for the lefties, but for ICE officers.

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Speaker 20: So we're going to clean double the number of ICE

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Speaker 20: deportation officers, but do many other things to expand deportations,

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Speaker 20: giving a larger role for the military, fully funding two

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Speaker 20: ety seven G so that stay on, local governments can

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Speaker 20: get involved in deportations, fully funding the National Guard Immigration Mission,

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Speaker 20: and I could go on and on and on. So

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Speaker 20: that alone would be the biggest Conservative paulicyh win in

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Speaker 20: our lifetimes.

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Speaker 14: Just that provision.

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Speaker 20: You cannot pass that as they stand alone. That is

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Speaker 20: not possible as a stand alone. So understand when you

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Speaker 20: hear certain libertarians campaigning against this bill, they're not stupid.

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Speaker 20: There are certain libertarians in the House and Senate who

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Speaker 20: are trying to take down this bill.

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Speaker 15: They're not stupid.

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Speaker 20: They understand. They just don't care. I want to be

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Speaker 20: very clear with you. They don't care. Immigration has never

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Speaker 20: mattered to them. It will never matter to them. Deportations

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Speaker 20: have never mattered to them. It will never matter to them.

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Speaker 20: You will never live a day in your life where

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Speaker 20: a libertarian cares as much about immigration and sovereignty as

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Speaker 20: they do about the Congressional Budget Office. That day will

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Speaker 20: never come. It will never happens up to you. You

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Speaker 20: listening to my voice today to vindicate President Trump's ten

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Speaker 20: years of effort and sacrifice to save the sovereignty of

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Speaker 20: this country. And I will say one other thing. If

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Speaker 20: conservatives want to be able to govern this country, they

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Speaker 20: have to stop being afraid of winning. History is set

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Speaker 20: by winners. President Trump is a winner. President Trump survived

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Speaker 20: two assassination attempts. President Trump was shot in the head.

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Speaker 20: President Trump survived an effort in multiple jurisdictions to incarcerate

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Speaker 20: him for life. President Trump is a winner. The conservative

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Speaker 20: movement needs to be able to take yes for an answer,

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Speaker 20: to accept winning, and then you make a huge, historic,

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Speaker 20: successful victory, and then you go on to the next

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Speaker 20: victory and the next victory. In the next victory, deep deep,

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Speaker 20: deep down inside, somewhere in the traumatized conservative psyche, amongst some,

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Speaker 20: not all amongst, but enough, is an allergy to winning,

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Speaker 20: a great fear of winning. There's a there's a desire

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Speaker 20: deep inside that would rather sit on a panel complaining

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Speaker 20: about a bill that is celebrating a victory. And that

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Speaker 20: instinct is everything that MAGA is allergic to. The MAGA movement,

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Speaker 20: among many other things, is that understanding that to save

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Speaker 20: this country, you have to be able to govern this country.

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Speaker 20: And all of these procedural hurdles that are being thrown

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Speaker 20: in the way, all of these highly technical bureaucratic complaints,

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Speaker 20: which whether they're all fictional, all false, you know, fake

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Speaker 20: scores of tax cuts and everything else, are all born

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Speaker 20: not from policy disagreement, but from a fear of winning.

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Speaker 20: And that is what we must overcome, whether anything else,

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Speaker 20: or we will lose the country.

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Speaker 14: There is there is so much truth to this. I

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Speaker 14: hope everyone understands.

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Speaker 17: The most important thing that we could do to fulfill

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Speaker 17: the mandate is re establish our sovereignty. Tax on remittance

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Speaker 17: is one thousand dollars upfront fee just to apply for asylum,

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Speaker 17: changing the asylum process, fully funding ICE isn't it amazing

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Speaker 17: how DC they become such fiscal conservatives when it comes

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Speaker 17: to ICE. We're able to grow every other department of

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Speaker 17: the federal government, but ICE has no growth. I wonder

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Speaker 17: why because the main core, the life force of the

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Speaker 17: globalist project is open borders. Steven's stay right there. We're

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Speaker 17: gonna go through the borders here, and then I'm gonna

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Speaker 17: we're gonna go through the borders. We're gonna come to

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Speaker 17: this readingly, we're gonna go through the break. So they

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Speaker 17: kind of like, we're gonna go through the breaks here,

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Speaker 17: and then I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you just some

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Speaker 17: of the questions that we're getting on the.

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Speaker 20: I'm gonna do a little bit of budget process too.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I'm gonna just kind of I'm gonna just mention

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Speaker 17: just some of Senator around Johnson, Senor Ran Paul's contentions,

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Speaker 17: and I want you to respond to them.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, let's do that.

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Speaker 15: Stay right there.

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Speaker 17: Okay, So Stephen, Senator Ron Johnson, Senator Rampaul say we're

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Speaker 17: not going to vote for this because it raises the

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Speaker 17: debt ceiling and it does not cut enough spending. Let

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Speaker 17: me play cut four thirteen. This is Senator Ron Johnson

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Speaker 17: who said this on the show yesterday. Play cut four thirteen.

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Speaker 21: Well, first of all, I know we're not going to

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Speaker 21: meet the moment with one bill.

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Speaker 15: We won't.

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Speaker 21: You know, the House didn't do it. We won't if

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Speaker 21: we quick rush this thing through. So we've got to

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Speaker 21: split this up, folks. On the areas of agreement, border defense,

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Speaker 21: take the spending reductions the Houses has given us that

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Speaker 21: they've agreed to extend current tax law. Take the automatic

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Speaker 21: tax increase off the table. That was a blunder in

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Speaker 21: the Tax cun Jobs Act. We should have score that

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Speaker 21: in current policy. We weren't smart enough to do that.

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Speaker 21: Increase the debt ceiling for about a year. Keep the

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Speaker 21: pressure on. I've got to convince President Trump that is

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Speaker 21: to his advantage. He wants to bounce a budget, That's

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Speaker 21: what he said. Well, we're not even coming close to

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Speaker 21: putting ourselves on a path to bounce a budget. He

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Speaker 21: needs that leverage as well. We'll never default on the

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Speaker 21: debt ever, We've got more than enough for revenue to

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Speaker 21: service our debt. We will increase the debt ceiling, but

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Speaker 21: we ought to do it in increments.

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Speaker 17: To keep the Okay, Steven, what is your response here

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Speaker 17: to Senator around Johnson?

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Speaker 20: So, on the debt ceiling, the only way to raise

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Speaker 20: the debt hilling without Democrat votes is to do it

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Speaker 20: in a reconciliation bill. So, as the first point, if

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Speaker 20: you take the debt ceiling out of this bill, the

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Speaker 20: only way to avoid a catastrophic default, which would cause

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Speaker 20: a search of interest rates or surgeon deficits in a

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Speaker 20: giant debt explosion, We'll be to make a deal with

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Speaker 20: Chuck Schumer, and that deal would come with significantly higher taxes,

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Speaker 20: a huge bailout for California, many other terrible policies, so

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Speaker 20: it would be a huge loss for conservatives. Now, the

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Speaker 20: second point that he makes is, well, why don't we

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Speaker 20: just split this up into a lot of different votes

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Speaker 20: than everything else. If you've been washing so we've been

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Speaker 20: working on this legislation, you know this is far from

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Speaker 20: being rushed. Since December. We've been working on this legislation,

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Speaker 20: so it'll be almost a year of effort. If you

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Speaker 20: split up the debt ceiling and to smaller tranches, it

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Speaker 20: will shut down the entire legislative project. We will just

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Speaker 20: spend every month, every session till the end of time

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Speaker 20: going through these internal procedural issues. We will inevitably come

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Speaker 20: up a short more than once and have to go

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Speaker 20: to Chuck Schumer begging and pleading to bail us out

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Speaker 20: on the debt ceiling. We have the chance now as

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Speaker 20: Republicans to raise the debt ceiling together attached.

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Speaker 14: To without simultaneous concessions. So that's the argument.

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Speaker 20: So the arguments attached to the strongest set of conservative.

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Speaker 17: Otherwise Tchruck Schumer would hold the debt ceiling hostage and

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Speaker 17: then we have to do all this other stuff we

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Speaker 14: So the other question I have.

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Speaker 17: Your price will be every conservative. I think that's smart,

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Speaker 17: it's very pragmatic. What do you have to say to

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Speaker 17: the contention that this bill does not cut enough spending,

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Speaker 17: that is not a big enough cut.

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Speaker 14: What is your response to that?

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Speaker 20: A few very important points in this The first is that.

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Speaker 14: Actually a lot of thut very bad.

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Speaker 17: For just one second, I gotta welcome back radio. We're

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Speaker 17: gonna do this in just a second. Ten seconds, stay

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Speaker 17: right there. Okay, Just to reask the question, Stephen, what

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Speaker 17: is your response to the contention that the big beautiful

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Speaker 17: bill does not cut enough spending?

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Speaker 14: Stephen Miller?

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Speaker 20: So, first facts, just off the top. According even to

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Speaker 20: the hoighly flawed Congressional Budget Office score, the bill cuts

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Speaker 20: one point six plus trillion dollars in federal spending, including

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Speaker 20: the largest welfare reform and history, far larger by the

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Speaker 20: way than the much vaunted well for reform from the

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Speaker 20: Gin retier in the nineties. So a full welfare reform

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Speaker 20: attached to medicaid and food stamps, the biggest wealth for

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Speaker 20: reform and history. And then again one point seven trillion

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Speaker 20: dollars one point six or so tillion dollars in spending cuts. Now,

874
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Speaker 20: with respect to the CBO score, that score solely is

875
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Speaker 20: referring to the tax cut. So this is there's a

876
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Speaker 20: been a deliberate bad faith substitution argument that's been made here,

877
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Speaker 20: where you have certain people, some libertarians, making bad faith

878
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 20: arguments saying, oh, the CBO says it's going to explode

879
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 20: the death the CBO says is going to expode the

880
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Speaker 20: data sit you know, and then therefore, because there's all

881
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Speaker 20: this pork in the bill. No, there's no pork in

882
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 20: the bill. The bill has been public for weeks. Every

883
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 20: single provision is just one campaign pledge, one promise, one

884
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Speaker 20: campaign bow after another. Right, the only new spending in

885
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Speaker 20: the bill is to secure the homeland of the United

886
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 20: States and safe American sovereignty will be paid for, by

887
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Speaker 20: the way, by increased VS fees on foreigners. But the

888
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 20: CBO score is just what they say is the cost

889
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 20: of extending the twenty seventeen Trump tax cut. For my

890
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 20: entire life, every conservative fiscal voice has understood that not

891
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 20: raising taxes doesn't cost anything. In other words, keeping the

892
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Speaker 20: current tax rates in place has no cost associate with it,

893
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Speaker 20: so that is a that is a budget gimmick. The

894
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Speaker 20: bill cut spending. Now for people who would say they'd

895
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Speaker 20: like to add more spending cuts, here's a very important point.

896
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Speaker 20: There'll be a process in the Senate. We will see

897
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Speaker 20: what comes out of that process. This bill was never

898
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Speaker 20: sold to the American people, not in the campaign, not

899
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Speaker 20: in the transition, as the one great, big chance to

900
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Speaker 20: permanently solve America's debt problems. That kind of process requires

901
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 20: significant public buy in, because you're talking about changing benefit

902
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Speaker 20: programs that people rightly or wrongly rely on and depend upon.

903
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Speaker 20: It requires significant public education, It requires multiple steps. We

904
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Speaker 20: would be committing the same air in a different direction

905
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Speaker 20: as Barack Obama did when he campaigned on dealing with

906
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Speaker 20: the Wall Street housing recession and the housing maildown, and

907
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Speaker 20: he came in and did Obamacare. If we just came

908
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Speaker 20: in and relist, said, oh, I know. We campaigned on

909
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Speaker 20: fully feeling the southern border, deporting all the illegals, reclaiming

910
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Speaker 20: our sovereignty, reclaiming your national unity, unleashing American energy, the

911
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Speaker 20: regular economy, extending all these tax cuts and making them

912
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Speaker 20: permanent and making them bigger. But instead our first bill

913
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Speaker 20: is going to be principally a healthcare bill, right that

914
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Speaker 20: would be seen as a big switch on the American people,

915
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Speaker 20: a bad face switch. So yes, this bill will include

916
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Speaker 20: very significant, very important welfare reforms and deep pubstantive spending cuts.

917
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Speaker 20: But it is a fundamentally bad faith argument to say

918
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Speaker 20: the tax cut and border bill is now a healthcare bill.

919
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Speaker 14: So the.

920
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Speaker 17: Response though, that some people would say, is that why

921
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Speaker 17: don't you do two reconciliation bills, one in twenty five

922
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Speaker 17: and one in twenty six.

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Speaker 14: What would your response to that be, Stephen, And.

924
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Speaker 20: If we have a big win right now, and we

925
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Speaker 20: have the win that are back, then absolutely we will

926
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Speaker 20: do another reconciliation bill and another reconciliation bill. And by

927
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Speaker 20: the way, not having the debt feeling on the future

928
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Speaker 20: reconciliation bill by doing it in this bill will make

929
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Speaker 20: it far easier to pass the next bill, and the

930
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Speaker 20: next bill and the next bill, to keep reforming government,

931
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Speaker 20: to keep delivering conservative policy wins. One to the point,

932
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Speaker 20: you remember the first day, first week, the first couple

933
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Speaker 20: weeks of the Trump presidency, when we do the big

934
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Speaker 20: beautiful bill version of executive orders, where every campaign promise

935
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Speaker 20: that we could do was done where we did ended DEI,

936
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Speaker 20: we ended CRT, we ended gender manness, we got the

937
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Speaker 20: transgender troops out of the military, we sealed the border,

938
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Speaker 20: shut all of those things. I don't remember anyone any

939
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Speaker 20: commentators on the right saying oh no, no, no, no, you

940
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Speaker 20: can't do all your promises. Also quickly, you've got to

941
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Speaker 20: ty trade it out, do three promises a year. The

942
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Speaker 20: Reconciliation Bill is a chance in one fell swoop without

943
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Speaker 20: eating democrat ope, So without a filibuster, to be able

944
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Speaker 20: to codify the very campaign promises that we have done

945
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Speaker 20: by executive order. So people keep saying, we why don't

946
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Speaker 20: you put the executiveorders into law. That's what this bill

947
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Speaker 20: literally does. And one last point, this bill is not

948
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Speaker 20: a spending bill. So this might shock some in your

949
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Speaker 20: audience who've been following the commentary online. How much money

950
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Speaker 20: is this bill appropriate to the Department Education? Zero dollars.

951
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 20: How much does it appropriate to left wing NGOs zero dollars.

952
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 20: How much does it give the Department of Labor zero dollars,

953
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Speaker 20: the Department of Commerce zero dollars, the federal workforce zero dollars.

954
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Speaker 20: It's not a spending bill. It does not fund the government.

955
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 20: It has two major fiscal provisions. It expands and makes

956
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Speaker 20: permanent the tax cuts, and it finally reforms welfare. And

957
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Speaker 20: the most significant policy provision, which pays for itself, is stealing.

958
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Speaker 17: The Southern We're going to do three minutes exclusively on

959
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Speaker 17: the podcast in real America's voice. Steven, stay right there,

960
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Speaker 17: ten seconds. Okay, Stephen. We have three minutes here, and

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Speaker 17: then I know I got to let you go. Response

962
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Speaker 17: to people say, well, the bond market is not is

963
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Speaker 17: a little shaky and wobbly on the bill and the

964
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Speaker 17: and finally, just I want you again to say that

965
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Speaker 17: this would be one of the greatest legislative accomplishments in

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Speaker 17: the Republican Party history. Any response to Rand Paul's contention,

967
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Speaker 17: the bond market is not responding very favorably.

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Speaker 8: Here.

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Speaker 20: The number one thing that the bond market needs to

970
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Speaker 20: see is predictability and certainty in our tax rates, including,

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Speaker 20: by the way, the one hundred percent expensive provision for

972
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Speaker 20: new factories, fulfilling the President's manufacturing reshorting pledge, so that

973
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Speaker 20: we can begin to realize the full potential of massive

974
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Speaker 20: economic growth, both through job creation and restoring, which will

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Speaker 20: that increase revenues create confidence, create certainty that, combined with

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Speaker 20: tariffs which are already now seeing projections even with the

977
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Speaker 20: current rates, that three trillion dollars in tariff for revenue

978
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Speaker 20: that will provide the bond market certainty. A giant tax

979
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Speaker 20: cliff combined with a giant debt cliff is the worst

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Speaker 20: thing for bond markets. As far as again, how significant

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Speaker 20: historic this bill is. The seventeen tax cuts were rightly

982
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Speaker 20: hailed as one of conservative one of the conservatives great victories.

983
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Speaker 20: How much greater would we say that victory was if

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Speaker 20: it also included full funding for the border wall. What

985
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 20: if it also included full funding for deportation. What if

986
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 20: it also defunded transgender surgeries nationwide? What if it also

987
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 20: had the first ever endowment tax on America's corrupt institutions

988
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 20: of higher learning. What if that bill also had no

989
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 20: tax on tips, no tax in overtime, no tax on

990
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 20: soid security. What if that bill also created the strongest

991
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Speaker 20: framework for energy regulation in American history?

992
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Speaker 22: Right?

993
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 20: What if that bill also created the first ever system

994
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 20: for the Department of Defense to be involved in the

995
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 20: defense of our sovereign border. In other words, one policy

996
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 20: went after another. Plus the tax cuts Nothing like this

997
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 20: has ever been done before in the history of the

998
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 20: conservative movement. This bill is electric. It is that good,

999
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 20: and it saddens me that there have been attempts to

1000
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 20: misportray it so severe. None of it doesn't mean that

1001
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 20: we can't agree. Yes, let's keep finding ways to reduce

1002
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 20: the budget deficit, let's keep finding ways to cut spending,

1003
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 20: Let's keep finding ways to lower our debtrajectory. But a

1004
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 20: rational person should be able to say, wow, it is

1005
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 20: amazing that this bill accomplishes the full tax agenda, the

1006
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 20: full border agenda, the full immigration agenda, the full energy agenda,

1007
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 20: large portions of the trans and dewocifying agenda, large portions

1008
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 20: of the higher ed agenda, also cancels the Green New Deal,

1009
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 20: also cancers, the student loan bail out, also has the

1010
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 20: largest welfare reform in history. But you could acknowledge all that,

1011
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 20: and then if you want to be an even greater

1012
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 20: fiscal hawks say, but I'd like to cut more. But

1013
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 20: to pretend this bill includes pork. There's no pork in

1014
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 20: the bill. It's been public for weeks and the only

1015
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 20: provisions you will find in the bill are campaign promises.

1016
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Speaker 17: And Stephen the other component of this that I think

1017
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Speaker 17: is important, and you mentioned this though. Guys, we have

1018
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 17: a budget that we have to do later this year

1019
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 17: that Congress will vote on, and another reconciliation bill next year,

1020
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 17: and another budget, and so there are other opportunities to

1021
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 17: get more spending reforms, to do more recision. By the way,

1022
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 17: we're going to have Impoundment Act stuff that's coming up

1023
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 17: in the Supreme Court. There are another stabs to go

1024
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 17: after this. But let's also be very good.

1025
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Speaker 20: All government funding inspires in September thirtieth. Yes, all government

1026
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 20: funding aspires in September thirty by the way, as proof

1027
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 20: that this bill isn't a quote spending bill. After we

1028
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 20: pass this bill, guess what still happens. Funding for the

1029
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 20: Huttery bureaucracy goes to zero September thirtieth. Again, I'll probably

1030
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 20: surprise some of your listeners who've been following online commentary.

1031
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 20: They say, wait, how's that possible? I heard it was

1032
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 20: a spending bill. How's fund and going to run out

1033
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 20: in September? Because it's not a spending bill. And the

1034
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 20: people who told you it was a spending bill lied

1035
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 20: to you. And the question you should be asking yourself

1036
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 20: is how do we get to a place in the

1037
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 20: movement where we can have disagreements in good faith, which

1038
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 20: is the necessary condition for winning. But being addicted to

1039
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 20: a losing cycle is what will relegate the conservative movement

1040
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 20: to a future of failure. And that's the cycle we

1041
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 20: have to break.

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Speaker 14: Okay, final final question here, Stevens.

1043
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 17: Some people on the internet are clamoring about those Artificial

1044
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 17: Intelligence Amendment to it or some sort of saying that

1045
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 17: local and state governments cannot regulate AI. What is the

1046
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 17: truth or the fiction here regarding this? This is receiving

1047
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 17: a lot of attention.

1048
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Speaker 20: Yeah, so this is something that David sax has talked

1049
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 20: a lot about. Now, I wouldn't claim that this provision

1050
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 20: is essential to the to the framework of a buildvy way,

1051
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 20: but as an example of another conservative policy in so,

1052
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Speaker 20: one of the biggest problems that we have as a

1053
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 20: nation is that California, because of its size, can set

1054
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 20: the rules for the entire country because companies have to

1055
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 20: do business there. So they set a fuel emission standard

1056
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 20: that all the car companies have to.

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Speaker 14: Abuy by that standard, that's exactly right.

1058
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 20: They say they're not going to allow energy infrastructure, then

1059
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 20: no one in the country to get energy shipped from

1060
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 20: our coast through California, so they basically bully dominate and

1061
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 20: intimidate freedom for the rest of the country. This provision

1062
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 20: presents California from setting an AI standard that will then

1063
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 20: be the standard for every other state in the country.

1064
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Speaker 20: So if California mandates DEI affirmative action, racial discrimination in

1065
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 20: transmaginety in AI, and that will be the model for

1066
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 20: the whole.

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Speaker 17: Country that I have not heard anyone made that argument,

1068
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 17: And that's exactly right, because almost all these AI companies

1069
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Speaker 17: are headquartered in California, so they could pseudo nationalize the

1070
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Speaker 17: entire country. If Gavin Newsom all of a sudden says, actually, no,

1071
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 17: in your large language models, you have to say that

1072
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 17: men can become pregnant. You have to be able to

1073
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 17: say that you have you know, white people are terrible.

1074
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 20: Yes, they will be able to effectively nationalize AI policy

1075
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 20: for the entire nation through San Francisco. That's why this

1076
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 20: language was included. Again, people can say it doesn't essential

1077
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 20: to the framework of this bill, but if another example

1078
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 20: of a conservative policy win inside the bill, are.

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Speaker 14: You optimistic this is going to pass?

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Speaker 20: I am optimistic, very optimistic. Because fundamentally I have faith

1081
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 20: in the power of the Trump voter. Yes, more than

1082
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 20: anything else, I have faith in the power of the

1083
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 20: Trump voter. The people who waited in line, the people

1084
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 20: whose hearts fell to their stomachs in Butler, Pennsylvania and

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Speaker 20: then left with joy when he stood up and raised

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Speaker 20: his fists. The people who've been going through rain, sleet,

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Speaker 20: and snow for ten years, the people who endured alongside

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Speaker 20: President Trump every prosecution, every hoax, every witch hunt. At

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Speaker 20: this moment of culmination of victory for the movement, I

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Speaker 20: have faith in them to demand their members stand with

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Speaker 20: President Trump, the man who has led this movement to

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Speaker 20: one hardship after another for ten years, to bring us

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Speaker 20: to the precipice of this victory.

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Speaker 14: Stephen, thank you so much. We have your back one

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Speaker 14: hundred percent.

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Speaker 17: I think you made a phenomenal case for why we

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Speaker 17: need to get this bill done. It is more than

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Speaker 17: eighty percent of the pie, and we're going to balance

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Speaker 17: this budget. In so sbsequent reconciliations and budget it still

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Speaker 17: cuts over one point six trillion dollars.

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Speaker 14: And Steven, you made a great case. Credit to you.

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Speaker 14: Thank you for the time, Thank you for being generous.

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Speaker 17: We're gonna clip this and send it everywhere and anybody

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Speaker 17: before you make up your mono Big Beautiful Bill. Listen

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Speaker 17: this whole conversation, Stephen, thank you so much, Thank you.

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Speaker 17: I want to hear from you. Email me freedom at

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Speaker 17: charliekirk dot com right now. And if you missed any

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Speaker 17: of that conversation, by the way, Steven Miller, that was

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Speaker 17: exclusive stuff. You will not hear Stephen in long form anywhere.

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Speaker 17: You won't hear it on cable news. That right there

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Speaker 17: is juicy, deep, really really thoughtful analysis on all the

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Speaker 17: main contentions. We're gonna post all of it on our

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Speaker 17: social media page and so also on our podcast.

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Speaker 14: So we're gonna post it on X, We're gonna post

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Speaker 14: it on Rumble. So make sure you.

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Speaker 17: Guys subscribe to the Charlie Kirkshow podcast page. And look,

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Speaker 17: this is a phenomenal opportunity that Blake made a great

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Speaker 17: point in our chat. I think this is so great.

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Speaker 17: There's so much good stuff in the Big Beautiful Bill.

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Speaker 17: It's just simultaneously so upsetting that we're in such a

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Speaker 17: bind because we're broke due to blowing money eternally on

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Speaker 17: stupid stuff. The last forty years. It's a great point,

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Speaker 17: and so it just kind of puts us in this bind.

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Speaker 17: But there is so much good stuff here. Everybody that

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Speaker 17: will liberate the American economy, that will grow, that will drill,

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Speaker 17: baby drill, and no tax on tips and tax on

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Speaker 17: remittances and deportation agenda and build the wall.

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Speaker 14: And so.

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Speaker 17: If you guys want to listen to that whole conversation,

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Speaker 17: please subscribe to the Charlie Kirkshow podcast. But I want

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Speaker 17: to hear from you based on what Stephen Miller and

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Speaker 17: the case that he just presented, where do you stand

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Speaker 17: on this? Email us Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. That

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Speaker 17: is freedom at Charliekirk dot com. By the way, we

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Speaker 17: worried about a few trillion dollars well the cost of

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Speaker 17: the Iraq war we pointlessly fought two decades ago. It'd

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Speaker 17: be great to have that money back. I want to

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Speaker 17: hear from you Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. Senator Jim

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Speaker 17: Banks joins us. Next, we're just going to keep rolling

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Speaker 17: great energy today. Back in about thirty seconds. Okay, everybody,

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Speaker 17: welcome back. Email us Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. We're

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Speaker 17: going to keep the momentum going. Joining us now is

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Speaker 17: Senator Jim Banks. We're here at the Bitcoin dot Com studio.

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Speaker 17: Phenomenal senator from the state of Indiana. Senator, thank you

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Speaker 17: for taking the time of day. Look, we're all focused

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Speaker 17: on the Big Beautiful Bill. Elon Musk is saying some

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Speaker 17: pretty harsh things about it, but there's things in the

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Speaker 17: bill that we've been talking about that are so important

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Speaker 17: for the MAGA agenda. What is your response to Elon

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Speaker 17: Musk and is he having any impact on your colleagues please, Senator.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we've got to pass this bill. If we don't

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Speaker 7: pass it, working class families and tax hit that they've

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Speaker 7: ever that they've ever had before, three thousand dollars on

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Speaker 7: average that every family will be taxed if we don't

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Speaker 7: extend the Trump tax cuts on working class families, the

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Speaker 7: individual rates, the small business rates from the twenty seventeen

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Speaker 7: Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, That's what this is all about.

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Speaker 7: And then funding the mass deportation effort, securing the border,

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Speaker 7: modernizing our military so that we can keep up with

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Speaker 7: the China threat. This really is the Big Beautiful Bill

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Speaker 7: because it pushes the Trump agenda that the American people

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Speaker 7: voted for. That's exactly what we promised on the campaign

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Speaker 7: trail and is what we're going to deliver with the bill.

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Speaker 7: I understand some of the complaints about the bill. A

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Speaker 7: thirty seven trillion dollar national debt. We have to address it.

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Speaker 7: President Trump is serious about balancing the budget, but this

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Speaker 7: isn't where you do that. You do that on the

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Speaker 7: spin in the spending fights, the appropriations fights that come

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Speaker 7: later in the summer. The Big Beautiful Bill is about

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Speaker 7: keeping taxes low for the working class voters of America

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Speaker 7: that elected Donald Trump. That's why we have to pass

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Speaker 7: this bill asap.

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Speaker 17: Let's talk more about the priorities here, including the Golden Dome.

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Speaker 17: Why does America need a Golden Dome? And that will

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Speaker 17: that include defenses against a potential drone invasion by the

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Speaker 17: Chinese Communist Party. We're seeing sophisticated drone technology and weaponry

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Speaker 17: be used for example of Ukraine versus Russia. Will the

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Speaker 17: Golden Dome fortify our defenses against the potential drone incursion

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Speaker 17: against the United States?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the Golden Dome will do that in a big way.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you think about the Iron Dome and what

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Speaker 7: it does to protect Israel. The Golden Dome is America's

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Speaker 7: version and President Trump that really the first time since

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Speaker 7: Reagan talked about the talked about this in the eighties,

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Speaker 7: President Trump is delivering on it with the Golden Dome.

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Speaker 7: Indiana is going to play a big role in it.

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Speaker 7: We're going to help build it at companies in Indiana

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Speaker 7: and at a Navy base in southern Indiana called Crane

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Speaker 7: Navy Base is going to play a big role in it.

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Speaker 7: But what it will do to make Russia and China

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Speaker 7: and some of their weapons obsolete because America will be

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Speaker 7: able to We'll be able to defend itself against those

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Speaker 7: those weapons from the from our biggest enemies, our biggest adversaries.

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Speaker 7: That that's really significant because it's a deterrent. It pushes

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Speaker 7: them back and it takes some of their loud their

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Speaker 7: defend against anything that they put up in the air

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Speaker 7: after us. So it's really significant. It'll keep America safe

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Speaker 7: and secure for a long time to come. And it

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Speaker 7: delivers on another one in President of Trump's campaign promises

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Speaker 7: with the Golden Dome so I'm proud to support it,

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Speaker 7: and the Big Beautiful Bill funds it. It puts a

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Speaker 7: major down payment on the Golden Dome, the first to

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Speaker 7: start building it, to get it going, and it's it's

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Speaker 7: a it's a significant reason, another significant reason why we

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Speaker 7: got to We got to pass this bill as soon

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Speaker 7: as we can, to extend the track the tax cuts

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Speaker 7: on working class families, to fund the mass deportation effort

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Speaker 7: to get these these these criminal illegal immigrants out of

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Speaker 7: this country, like the like the the the the the

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Speaker 7: terrorist in Boulder, Colorado last weekend should have been deported

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Speaker 7: but he overstayed his visa. The Big Beautiful Bill will

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Speaker 7: fund the deportation effort of terrorists and criminals just like

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Speaker 7: that one. So there's so much about this bill that

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Speaker 7: the good far outweighs the bad, and that that's why

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Speaker 7: we have to pass it, send it to President Trump

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Speaker 7: to sign it, and then move on. I mean, Charlie,

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Speaker 7: this is a big part about this is the first

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Speaker 7: reconciliation bill. We can pass more reconciliation bills if we

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Speaker 7: get this one out of the way, get the first

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Speaker 7: big one passed into the president, and then we can

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Speaker 7: do the next one. That can focus more on on

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Speaker 7: cutting spending and cutting a lot of the bad things

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Speaker 7: that the Biden administration did to this country. That let's

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Speaker 7: move on quickly to the next one.

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Speaker 17: And this still does cut spending. It doesn't cut what

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Speaker 17: all of us would want as enough. The bond market

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Speaker 17: is still a little shaky, but it still does cut spending.

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Speaker 17: That's very important. So people don't know that medicaid is

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Speaker 17: really preserved perverse in its incentive structures. We want to

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Speaker 17: be able to say, if you are able.

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Speaker 14: Body to get off the couch.

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Speaker 17: I assume that the Senate is looking very closely at

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Speaker 17: the Medicaid component in particular.

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Speaker 14: What are your thoughts.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think this is this is good policy and

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Speaker 7: it's really good politics. I mean, you think about the

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Speaker 7: the all of the estimates are that somewhere between five

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Speaker 7: and six million Americans who are able bodied, who aren't

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Speaker 7: taking care of a sick kid or a sick mom,

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Speaker 7: but are sitting at home, not working and still getting medicaid.

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Speaker 7: So work requirements means that those Americans will be pushed

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Speaker 7: back into the workplace, and that's good for that's good

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Speaker 7: for society, and that's good for those those individuals. It

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Speaker 7: makes them, It gives them more worth and more satisfaction.

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Speaker 7: It gives them a better life and a better lifestyle.

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Speaker 7: So this is really good for America. And then and

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Speaker 7: then another million and a half illegals who are on

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Speaker 7: Medicaid who shouldn't receive medicaid.

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Speaker 20: Charlie.

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Speaker 7: I think about my dad all the time. He's a

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Speaker 7: retired union factory worker, and he can't believe it. He

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Speaker 7: can't believe it when I tell him that there are

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Speaker 7: five million Americans who are sitting at home who don't

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Speaker 7: go to work, but they can work. My dad went

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Speaker 7: and worked in a factory all of his work in

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Speaker 7: life and made axles. And then there are people that

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Speaker 7: are sitting at are sitting at home and they get

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Speaker 7: a free paycheck. So there's something. There's something gross about that,

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Speaker 7: there's something there's something completely unfair about it. And work

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Speaker 7: requirements on Medicaid is a big way to fix it.

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Speaker 7: And it turns out it saves hundreds of billions of dollars.

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Speaker 7: I think seven hundred billion dollars that will save through

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Speaker 7: work requirements on Medicaid over the next ten years. That's

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Speaker 7: really good policy, really good politicies.

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Speaker 17: There are so many other elements here ten thousand new

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Speaker 17: ice agents, eliminates the medicaid for illegal aliens, mandates voter

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Speaker 17: ID for federal elections, stop Chinese ownership of US land,

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Speaker 17: revives the Keystone Excel pipeline, tax breaks for adoption in

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Speaker 17: large families. The deeper we go into this this bill,

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Speaker 17: the more good that we realize. Also, my understanding is

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Speaker 17: that there's some opportunities in this bill to stop corporations

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Speaker 17: from getting subsidies for taxes they didn't pay, basically bleeding

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Speaker 17: US taxpayers to help foreign companies. I mean, apparently there's

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Speaker 17: some loophole where foreign companies are getting refunds from the

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Speaker 17: federal government by using some sort of import export scheme. Senator,

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Speaker 17: can you explain this?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's so absurd you can't explain it. I mean,

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Speaker 7: when when President Trump talks about America First, it means

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Speaker 7: closing loopholes is subsidized foreign countries and jobs and foreign

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Speaker 7: countries to the detriment of jobs in America. So this

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Speaker 7: really is a America First bill. It's the one big,

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Speaker 7: beautiful bill the President Trump promised on the campaign trail.

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Speaker 7: You listed so many good things about it, but at

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Speaker 7: the end of the day, hr LEA mean, I can't

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Speaker 7: to those on my side of the aisle, those Republicans,

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Speaker 7: those critics of this bill, Do you really want working

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Speaker 7: class families, the mechanics, factory workers, teachers, police officers, the

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Speaker 7: men and women who go to work every day, you

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Speaker 7: want to stick them with an extra three thousand dollars

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Speaker 7: in taxes when they have such a hard time already

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Speaker 7: making ends meet today? Do you really want the biggest

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Speaker 7: tax hike on working class families to go into effect

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Speaker 7: on our watch, with our president with majority, with the

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Speaker 7: Republican majority in the House and the Senate. I just

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Speaker 7: can't believe. I can't believe there's any Republican that would

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Speaker 7: be okay with that. And that's why we have to

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Speaker 7: pass this bill as fast as as we can to

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Speaker 7: send it to the president. It gets our economy.

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Speaker 17: Passed, the big beautiful bill period. And just to add

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Speaker 17: more contextualization there, because this was in my show notes

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Speaker 17: sent to me by somebody.

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Speaker 14: They said, apparently there was some like.

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Speaker 17: Foreign loophole where I guess, like cigarette companies are able

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Speaker 17: to get refunds from the federal government. Like it ends

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Speaker 17: all that it puts American companies first. Just one of

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Speaker 17: many many accomplishments in victories. No tax on tips, American companies,

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Speaker 17: first ice agents, you name it. Senator thirty seconds. Are

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Speaker 17: you optimistic your colleagues are going to step up to

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Speaker 17: the plate and pass the big beautiful bill.

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Speaker 7: We have to We have to pass this bill. I mean,

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Speaker 7: it's so important to the men and women who gave

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Speaker 7: President Trump a historic election victory, a man a historic mandate,

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Speaker 7: now because of Donald Trump. They're counting on us to

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Speaker 7: pass this bill to make sure that the biggest tax

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Speaker 7: increase in American history doesn't occur on our Wise, we

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Speaker 17: Senator, thank thank you so much. Get your senators across

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Speaker 17: the line. We must pass the.

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Speaker 14: Big beautiful bill. Thank you so much. What do we

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Speaker 17: years ago, I was in a car driving to Rockford, Illinois,

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Speaker 17: and this journey started. It's June fifth, twenty twelve. I

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Speaker 17: was wrestling kind of what we're going to call this organization,

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Speaker 17: and my dad came up with a list of names,

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Speaker 17: and all of a sudden, he said, turning point, I said,

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Speaker 17: that's the one. Spoke at a tea party rally out

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Speaker 17: in Rockford, and the journey started. No money, no connections,

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Speaker 17: and no idea what I was doing. Started the barnstorm

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Speaker 17: Illinois in the Midwest, speaking at every possible tea party

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Speaker 17: rally I could that was the gara that we literally

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Speaker 17: started in Lamont, Illinois. I had burning desire looking back

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Speaker 17: at it, I wanted to grow this thing more than

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Speaker 17: anything imaginable. I poured every part of my being into this.

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Speaker 17: As Napoleon Hill would say, conceived, believe, work achieved. CBWA

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Speaker 17: was the daily mantra that I would have. Nobody believed

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Speaker 17: in us. We were considered not just me an outsider.

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Speaker 17: It is incomprehensible odds that we were up against. Show

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Speaker 17: some of these pictures in the chat guys and Bill

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Speaker 17: Montgomery may he rest in peace, great man and great

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Speaker 17: mentor was one of the few people that was a

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Speaker 17: picture of Bill and I I think got a lot

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Speaker 17: of pictures with Bill. Unfortunately, at the Republican National Convention

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Speaker 17: in twenty twelve, where I basically had to smuggle myself

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Speaker 17: in to that convention. That's where I met the great

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Speaker 17: Foster Freeze, and I mean he also rest in peace.

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Speaker 17: Where I gave him the first starewell pitch. I said,

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Speaker 17: will you give us some money? And he told me

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Speaker 17: his name in a very comical way, and he ended

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Speaker 17: up writing us a ten thousand dollars check, which might

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Speaker 17: as well have been one hundred million dollars at the time.

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Speaker 17: That was the startup funding to allow us to get

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Speaker 17: a website and for ten years straight. I made a

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Speaker 17: promise to myself and I kept that promise that I

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Speaker 17: might not be the smartest, I might not have the

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Speaker 17: best college education or any at all, but I will

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Speaker 17: outwork you. You see, when I first entered the political space,

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Speaker 17: I had a misconception. I thought everybody worked hard. I

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Speaker 17: thought in the world, everybody had a burning desire to succeed.

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Speaker 17: I thought that was largely universal. Of course, that was

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Speaker 17: my youthful naivete. Little did I realize that most people

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Speaker 17: are just kind of meandering through life. As the Roau

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Speaker 17: would say, the massive men lead lives of quiet desperation.

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Speaker 17: So I realized that not everyone wanted to take right

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Speaker 17: eye flights. Not everyone wanted to do Fox News hits

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Speaker 17: on Thanksgiving. Not everyone wanted to do Friday night radio hits.

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Speaker 17: Not everyone wanted to wake up, as I did over

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Speaker 17: one hundred times at three am or four am to

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Speaker 17: go do Fox and Friends. First, people thought I was nuts,

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Speaker 17: but I said, I'm going to outwork you. We got

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Speaker 17: to make this thing happen. We got to save the Republic,

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Speaker 17: We got to save Western civilization. And the movement grew,

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Speaker 17: and our team increased, and we started to meet donors,

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Speaker 17: and we started to meet funders, and oh my goodness,

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Speaker 17: the first trial that we had were other conservative organizations

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Speaker 17: and libertarian organizations trying to attack us because we were

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Speaker 17: the new kids on the block. Who were we what

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Speaker 17: were we trying to do? The asymmetric warfare from many

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Speaker 17: organizations that are just you know, they pale in comparison now,

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Speaker 17: trying to sabotage us. We're going to take Charlie Kirk out.

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Speaker 17: It wasn't the left, it wasn't the media. It was

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Speaker 17: other conservatives that tried to take us out. But boy

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Speaker 17: did we persevere, and we kept our head down and

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Speaker 17: we kept on working with grittiness and with fortitude. That

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Speaker 17: was one of our first events ever, go Back Go

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Speaker 17: Back at University of Wisconsin Madison. Three members. Three people

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Speaker 17: attended our event. Who's three more than I ever would

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Speaker 17: have expected. And I would travel the Midwest and my

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Speaker 17: votes wagon. If I could speak it to ten people,

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Speaker 17: I would do it. If I could speak to five people,

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Speaker 17: I would do it everywhere imaginable. I would be just

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Speaker 17: trying to get the message of Turning Point USA out.

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Speaker 17: And now thirteen years later, hundreds of thousands of student members,

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Speaker 17: thousands of high school and college chapters, we have TPUSA faith,

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Speaker 17: we have Turning Point Action, We're chasing ballots, we have

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Speaker 17: billions of views online, we have four hundred thousand donors

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Speaker 17: to Turning Point USA. Relationship with the President of United

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Speaker 17: States played a role in this massive movement. And let's

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Speaker 17: be honest that President Trump, our increase would never been possible.

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Speaker 17: We would have been big, we would not be where

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Speaker 17: we are today. And Don Junior deserves credit and Jade

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Speaker 17: Van deserves credit President Trump. And now here we are today,

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Speaker 17: we are the biggest conservative organization period, not just young,

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Speaker 17: but the biggest conservative organization, and no one really.

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Speaker 14: Comes even close.

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Speaker 17: The media has trouble even saying saying that they think

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Speaker 17: we're just a youth organization, We're actually much bigger. And

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Speaker 17: I say that with a great deal of heaviness and

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Speaker 17: humility and weight, because with great privilege comes phenomenal responsibility.

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Speaker 14: Now we are thirteen years old.

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Speaker 17: We are a teenager defying all the odds and only

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Speaker 17: made possible thanks to God Almighty blessing us every step

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Speaker 17: of the way.

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Speaker 15: Be right back.

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Speaker 23: I'm Bo Davidson with your Real America's Voice headlines. President

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Speaker 23: Trump has ordered the Justice Department to investigate Joe Biden's

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Speaker 23: auto pen use for pardons. Trump says Attorney General Pam

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Speaker 23: Bondi and any other relevant department heads should look into

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Speaker 23: if certain individuals in the Biden administration tried to deceive

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Speaker 23: the public about Biden's mental state. Trump's memo claimed Biden's

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Speaker 23: mental state was declining at the end of his term,

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Speaker 23: but his signature appeared on documents that put in significant

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Speaker 23: policy changes and pardons. Meanwhile, President Trump has signed a

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Speaker 23: proclamation banning travel to the US from at least twelve countries.

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Speaker 23: The proclamation cited national security reasons for the ban, and

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Speaker 23: some of the countries are Iran, Afghanistan, Burma, Chad, the

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Speaker 23: Republic of the Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Haiti, Somolia, Sudan, Yemen,

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Speaker 23: and Libya. There are also seven other countries that have

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Speaker 23: traveled to the US partially restricted, like Cuba and Venezuela.

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Speaker 23: The White House says President Trump is keeping his promise

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Speaker 23: to the American people to keep us safe. Earlier, President

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Speaker 23: Donald Trump spoke with spoke with Chinese President Shi Jinping

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Speaker 23: this morning, according to the Chinese Foreign Ministry. In a

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Speaker 23: true social post, Trump said that the two had a

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Speaker 23: quote very good call and discussed some of the intricacies

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Speaker 23: of the recent trade deal, saying there should no longer

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Speaker 23: be any questions about the complexity of rare earth products.

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Speaker 23: He indicated that teams from the two countries would be

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Speaker 23: meeting shortly at a location to be determined. Also said

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Speaker 23: that she invited him to visit China, which Trump also reciprocated. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 23: Texas universities will soon become less woke as new legislation

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Speaker 23: heading to Governor Greg Abbott's desk gives state boards more

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Speaker 23: power to change the curriculum. Abbott is expected to sign

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Speaker 23: the bill, joining states like Florida and Ohio in reshaping

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Speaker 23: education standards.

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Speaker 14: As soon as the ink is.

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Speaker 23: Dry on his signature, higher education institutions throughout Texas will

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Speaker 23: be able to review hiring practices and eliminate courses that

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Speaker 23: promote quote woke teachings like DEI and gender ideology. Universities

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Speaker 23: will now need to ensure each course is quote necessary

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Speaker 23: to prepare students for civic and professional life, equip them

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Speaker 23: for their workforce, and worth the cost to.

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Speaker 15: Students end quote.

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Speaker 23: And today the Supreme Court sided with a Wisconsin Catholic

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Speaker 23: charity group in a case regarding unemployment tax credits for

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Speaker 23: religious institutions, which is a victory for religious institutions, and

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Speaker 23: a unanimous opinion of the Court issued that the state

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Speaker 23: had engaged in unnecessary entanglement.

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Speaker 14: Those are your headline. Now back to Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 15: It's waking up woke. Oh you should get over that quickly.

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Speaker 18: One brainwashed radical at a time.

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Speaker 15: That's enough.

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Speaker 18: It's the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 17: Okay, everybody, welcome back. In just the second we will

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Speaker 17: you for taking the time here. I know there's a

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Speaker 17: lot you want to talk about, in particular about the

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Speaker 17: Chinese Commuist Party and officials and their relationship with Harvard

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Speaker 17: and the infiltration of our country. Please explain to our

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Speaker 17: audience some of the work that you're doing. We'll go

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Speaker 17: from there.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Well, Charlie, awesome seeing you and thanks for having me out.

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Speaker 10: Absolutely seeing you again. Yes, yeah, So on the point,

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Speaker 10: I think a lot of people saw this story that

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Speaker 10: Trump was talking about, you know, banning most of the

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Speaker 10: student visas for Chinese students. And I mean, I know

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Speaker 10: what a lot of people might be thinking. Isn't that

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Speaker 10: a bit extreme? They're not all bad people and so on.

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Speaker 10: I can tell you I have a lot of Chinese

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Speaker 10: colleagues and friends who came here as students, people very

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Speaker 10: much against the CCP.

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Speaker 1: But across the board, they'll tell you something.

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Speaker 10: If you come here as a student the Chinese Communist Party,

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Speaker 10: they will send somebody to meet with you before you go,

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Speaker 10: and they will tell you to remember the motherland. They

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Speaker 10: all understand this takes place. The Chinese Communist Party regards

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Speaker 10: students as spies. I did a recent big expos on

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Speaker 10: one of the big networks as part of this, and

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Speaker 10: I guess, if you know, if there's anybody wondering if

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Speaker 10: you want to really root out the real heart of

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Speaker 10: Chinese espionage at American universities, the real heart is an

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Speaker 10: organization called the Chinese Student and Scholar Associations the cssas,

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Speaker 10: right alongside.

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Speaker 1: The Confucius Institutes in the little Red schools.

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Speaker 10: The cssas are openly funded by the Chinese Communist Party,

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Speaker 10: openly operated by the Chinese Communist Party and openly active

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Speaker 10: at most American universities, most of them, and I'm talking Harvard,

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Speaker 10: I'm talking like you know, the majority of the top

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Speaker 10: colleges in the United States. And these are these are

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Speaker 10: effectively student unions or Chinese student groups that don't just

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Speaker 10: include the students, includes faculty, It includes.

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Speaker 1: And just people within the Chinese community.

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Speaker 10: Who are part of what you call the Tong system,

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Speaker 10: the Chinese Communist Party system to subvert the United States.

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Speaker 10: And I'll lay out a couple of things they do

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Speaker 10: on one side of it. These are the eyes and

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Speaker 10: ears of the Chinese Communist Party at American universities. And

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Speaker 10: so if you're a normal Chinese student, this is the

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Speaker 10: group that will harass you. This is the group that

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Speaker 10: will monitor you. This is the group where if you

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Speaker 10: are a normal Chinese student and you just happen to

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Speaker 10: believe in democracy and you go to a you know,

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Speaker 10: support democracy and Hong Kong event, this is the group

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Speaker 10: that will provide your name and your identity to the

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Speaker 10: Chinese agents. So you will be punished if you join

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Speaker 10: a human rights event, maybe against slave labor in China

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Speaker 10: or against organ harvesting of religious believers. This is the

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Speaker 10: Chinese student group that will report you to the authorities,

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Speaker 10: and I should not it. Also, when I know, Charlie,

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Speaker 10: you do a lot of work going to American universities,

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Speaker 10: you've probably dealt with some Chinese protesters students. A lot

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Speaker 10: of those protesters are from this group. And the big

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Speaker 10: thing is they're organized by the Chinese consulates openly. In

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Speaker 10: fact that if you saw my recent episode on Crossroads,

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Speaker 10: I did a big exposa they even have on their

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Speaker 10: own websites. They will state they're funded by them, they

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Speaker 10: will state that they're operated by them, and they will

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Speaker 10: state they're tied into the entire network of subversion. But

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Speaker 10: I would add one more thing to this for American

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Speaker 10: national security, when we talk about Chinese researchers and stuff

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Speaker 10: at our universities, you know, oftentimes we think about brain drain.

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Speaker 10: We think about, okay, taxpayer money is being used to

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Speaker 10: finance weapons development or medical medical research at universities. That's

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Speaker 10: one of the big arguments with Harvard right now, for example.

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Speaker 10: What is not often talked about is, aside from them

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Speaker 10: coming here researching things and then taking our state funded

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Speaker 10: research and bringing it back to China, the biggest threat

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Speaker 10: that these things represent, these student organizations is that if

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Speaker 10: they are connected to the CCP, which they are again

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Speaker 10: even openly on their own websites. In fact, the cssas

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Speaker 10: are openly operated through the Chinese Embassy, their educational programs

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Speaker 10: of the Chinese Embassy, it means that the CCP can

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Speaker 10: grow them. So for example, you have a Chinese student,

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Speaker 10: maybe they're studying law.

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Speaker 1: They might go in the future in work, maybe in

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Speaker 1: the Justice Department.

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Speaker 10: If you have a Chinese student who's studying maybe national security,

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Speaker 10: and they're an American, maybe they become an American citizen

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Speaker 10: or marry an American citizen. They can later on get

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Speaker 10: a job in the FBI, they can get a job

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Speaker 10: in the intelligence community. They can enroll in the US military.

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Speaker 10: And even if you're not an American citizen in the

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Speaker 10: United States, there is a pathway to citizenship if you

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Speaker 10: join the military. And I know from people who work

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Speaker 10: in some of the organizations that review these individuals, they're

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Speaker 10: having massive lines of Chinese nationals trying to enlist in

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Speaker 10: the US military.

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Speaker 1: This means if this is a way.

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Speaker 10: For them to implant spies within our system, it doesn't

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Speaker 10: matter if it's government or top level business or finance

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Speaker 10: or anything else. This is a way for them to

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Speaker 10: get into our institutions and then use our institutions against

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Speaker 10: us and in their favor.

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Speaker 17: So, I mean, let me just ask a question here.

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Speaker 17: They're treating us as if we're an enemy, They're infiltrating,

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Speaker 17: they're spying. Is that how China would the Chinese Chemist

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Speaker 17: Party would internally describe their relationship with America, Because externally

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Speaker 17: they're all like, oh, we know, we're not an interventionist.

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Speaker 17: I mean, they're just so they're pathological liars. How does

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Speaker 17: China internally view their relationship with the United States of America.

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Speaker 10: The exact slogan, word for word from the Chinese Communist

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Speaker 10: Party that has been in place from the very beginning

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Speaker 10: up until now with Chijingping.

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Speaker 1: Is we live you die, We live you die.

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Speaker 10: They believe the Chinese Communist Party cannot coexist on the

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Speaker 10: same planet.

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Speaker 1: As the United States. They view the United.

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Speaker 10: States as the largest in the largest things standing in

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Speaker 10: front of the CCP in front of their goal of

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Speaker 10: trying to effectively take over the world, and.

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Speaker 1: What would that look like?

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Speaker 10: It means the China model in their eyes, there's two

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Speaker 10: competing global systems. There is the packs Americana and American values.

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Speaker 10: The idea of you know it is liberal democracy, meaning

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Speaker 10: human rights, the idea that people are endowed by God

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Speaker 10: is having God given rights, and that people and the

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Speaker 10: government is instituted as a system to protect God given rights.

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Speaker 10: You know, that's the American idea. Free market capitalism, meaning

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Speaker 10: it's not controlled by a governing party. Of course, the

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Speaker 10: Chinese Communist Party's ideology is communism.

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Speaker 15: We all know.

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Speaker 1: And of course, while some.

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Speaker 10: People argue that they are engaged in the capitalistic system,

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Speaker 10: the system they use is what's called state capitalism. What

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01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 10: state capitalism? It just means the state controls this system

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Speaker 10: of capitalism. What is that that socialism? In fact, going

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Speaker 10: back even to the Russian Bolshevik Revolution, one of the

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Speaker 10: first articles written by Vladimir Lenin was called how can

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Speaker 10: we advance to communism if we fear the stage of socialism?

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Speaker 10: And he described socialism as the state capitalist monopoly, meaning

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Speaker 10: the state seizes control.

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Speaker 1: Of the businesses. That's what the CCP practice is.

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Speaker 10: And unfortunately a lot of people have come to believe

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Speaker 10: that somehow they're a free market economy. They're not any

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Speaker 10: medium to large sized business in China is deeply controlled

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Speaker 10: by the Chinese Communist Party, and if you refuse, you're

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Speaker 10: gonna you're gonna get thrown in the gulag. And that's

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Speaker 10: the way it works there. They regard America as an

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Speaker 10: existential threat, the greatest enemy of the Chinese Communist Party

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Speaker 10: that has been in place, going back.

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Speaker 1: To Mao Zidong.

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Speaker 10: It did not change even under Deng Shaoping when they

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Speaker 10: did the reforms in opening up. When Deng Shaoping was

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Speaker 10: questioned on this by his advisors, his exact words were

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Speaker 10: something on the lines of orange cat, black cat. What

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Speaker 10: does it matter as long as it can catch mice?

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Speaker 10: Meaning open market, closed market? What does it matter as

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Speaker 10: long as the goal is to undermine and destroy the

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Speaker 10: United States? And Chi Jinping is just revived all of this,

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Speaker 10: in fact, even throwing off some of the facade that

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Speaker 10: was maintained of the quote unquote peaceful rise of China.

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Speaker 10: They regard us as an enemy and in their eyes,

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Speaker 10: all of this is war war by other means to.

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Speaker 1: Undermine the United States.

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Speaker 17: And so there's a lot to discuss here. How then

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Speaker 17: should the United States retaliate? Because I don't think anyone

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Speaker 17: wants a kinetic war with the Chinese Communist Party. But

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Speaker 17: how if we are on a war footing, how should

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Speaker 17: the United States then respond?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think we need.

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Speaker 10: To recognize that war is not always war is not

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Speaker 10: always kinetic. In fact, in the eyes and the public

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Speaker 10: statements of the Chinese Communist Party, they are at war

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Speaker 10: with us. We are already at war with them. It's

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Speaker 10: just the war we don't realize we're fighting for them.

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Speaker 10: Of course, so we can look at many things.

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Speaker 1: We can look.

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Speaker 10: One big example people use is what two Chinese kernels

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Speaker 10: referred to as unrestricted warfare. That's business warfare, meaning you're

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Speaker 10: fighting for the actual businesses. Economic theft, where the Chinese

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Speaker 10: military is stealing intellectual property and then feeding it to

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Speaker 10: Chinese businesses, registering patents even slightly altering things they steal

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Speaker 10: from us, and then undercutting us on the global market.

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Speaker 10: That's warfare for them. In case in point, the Chinese

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Speaker 10: military is engaged in that the hackers are Chinese military hackers.

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Speaker 10: There's economic warfare, which is fighting over GDP when they

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Speaker 10: do hostile takeovers of entire industries in other countries, for example,

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Speaker 10: buying up the dairy industry in New Zealand buying up

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Speaker 10: the iron and minerals industries in Australia doing debt traps

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Speaker 10: through the Belt and Road initiative. They call that economic warfare,

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Speaker 10: the monopolizing of natural resources. There's manufacturing warfare. What did

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Speaker 10: Maozodong say is one of the main goals of communism

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Speaker 10: sees the means of production. Who controls the means of production?

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Speaker 10: That's your factories, China.

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Speaker 1: We gave it to them.

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Speaker 10: There's drug warfare, an operation actually started under Maozotong using

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Speaker 10: the spy networks through Cuba to establish cocaine smuggling, which

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Speaker 10: has now evolved into them providing precursor chemicals from ethymphetamine,

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Speaker 10: includes for example, fentanyl. In their open writings, this is warfare,

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Speaker 10: and they are killing more Americans every single year than

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Speaker 10: we lost in the entire Vietnam War. They're killing more

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Speaker 10: people than we lose in a kinetic warfare using drug warfare.

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Speaker 10: If I were to go over the whole list, they

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Speaker 10: list publicly over seventy strategies of unconventional warfare, even ideology

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Speaker 10: they have adopted into their actual military code what's called

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Speaker 10: the three warfares. Psychological warfare made their warfare in legal war.

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Speaker 17: So I want to ask you after the break the

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Speaker 17: Taiwan question, are we going to see a move on

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Speaker 17: and the Lion. Very important topic here about the Chinese

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Speaker 17: Communist Party. I classify the Chinese Communist Party as an

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Speaker 17: enemy of the United States.

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Speaker 14: How we respond to that is very complicated.

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Speaker 17: Joshua Philip, host of Crossroads at the Epoch Times and

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Speaker 17: senior investigative reporter at the Epoch Times. So do you

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Speaker 17: think that Jijipang and the Chinese Communist Party is going

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Speaker 17: to make an imminent move on Time one?

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Speaker 10: It's very possible. So there's a lot happening right now

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Speaker 10: Epic Times. Of course, we have a lot of contacts

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Speaker 10: in China. You know we're able to make phone calls

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Speaker 10: into China. You know we're blacklisted in China. But that

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Speaker 10: also means that anytime somebody wants to defect or get

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Speaker 10: information out, we tend to be the.

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Speaker 1: Go to place for it.

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Speaker 10: I can tell you that our own sources in China

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Speaker 10: say there's a power struggle taking place within the Chinese military,

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Speaker 10: and it looks so far like Chijiping is losing the

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Speaker 10: power struggle of the Chinese military. As of now, it

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Speaker 10: does appear that Chijing Ping does not fully control the

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Speaker 10: Chinese military. What does that mean for Taiwan, Well, it

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Speaker 10: means one of two things. Either Chiging Ping does not

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Speaker 10: have the control or power to launch a war right now,

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Speaker 10: or it means he might do it drastically with the

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Speaker 10: intent of maybe keeping his military busy as a way

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Speaker 10: to consolidate power and try to win back control of

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Speaker 10: the military. It is possible he might he might start

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Speaker 10: a war to kill off the individuals he does not

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Speaker 10: want in the military, and so in terms of national interest,

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Speaker 10: in terms of internal infighting within the CCP itself.

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Speaker 1: It might happen.

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Speaker 10: What would that mean for US is the United States well, Japan.

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Speaker 10: Japan would very quickly move to defend Taiwan. They would,

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Speaker 10: and because we have a defense agreement with Japan and

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Speaker 10: Japan's defense agreements with the Philippines and Australia and India,

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Speaker 10: this would very quickly escalate into a much larger war.

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Speaker 1: We would probably get pulled into it.

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Speaker 10: What would a CCP war look like against Taiwan, So

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Speaker 10: the northern basically the Northern Strait, the entire straight there

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Speaker 10: and including even to the west.

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Speaker 1: The whole strait is like shallow water. They can't really

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Speaker 1: field submarines. Everything will be visible. You would have large scale.

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Speaker 10: Rocket attacks from the Chinese Communist Party bombarding Taiwan, and

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Speaker 10: you would have a boat incursion. Taiwan would defend against that.

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Speaker 10: Imagine saving private Ryan times a thousand, where machine gun

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Speaker 10: nests are replaced with rockets and they're bombing boat.

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Speaker 1: It's far out into the sea.

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Speaker 10: The United States is putting in a place what it

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Speaker 10: calls the Hellscape strategy, which is various drones. It's aerial drones,

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Speaker 10: surface of the water drones like boats, and under sea drones.

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Speaker 10: And we would also be bombarding the Chinese invasion.

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Speaker 15: I don't know what.

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Speaker 10: Japan would do, but they'd very likely be involved in

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Speaker 10: that as well. But what the cc WE might try

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Speaker 10: to do in the short term is effectively isolate Taiwans,

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Speaker 10: surround it with their ships, launch kind of a castle siege,

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Speaker 10: very likely, try to sever their internet cables, cut them off,

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Speaker 10: starve them out, and then from there slowly.

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Speaker 1: Move to an actual invasion. Would the CCP do it?

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Speaker 1: They might, They really might.

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Speaker 10: But right now I think that's what's most concerning about

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Speaker 10: them is everything is up in the air. They're in

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Speaker 10: a very delicate state, but they're also in a very

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Speaker 10: dangerous state because of that.

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Speaker 17: In closing here, Joshua, what do we need to do

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Speaker 17: very quick, just rapid fire, to continue to have supremacy

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Speaker 17: over the Chinese Communist Party?

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Speaker 14: One?

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Speaker 17: Two, three, four Things that you want to s see

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Speaker 17: President Trump too very quick, Joshua.

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Speaker 10: The United States needs to recognize we are already at

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Speaker 10: war with the Chinese Communist Party, but it's a war

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Speaker 10: through other means. Number Two, we need to understand they've

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Speaker 10: been subverting our government for decades. There's what's called transnational repression.

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Speaker 10: They have placed agents within our government. Those need to

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Speaker 10: be rooted out absolutely. Number three, understand that they use

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Speaker 10: the open systems of the United States against us. The

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Speaker 10: actual slogan for it is strangle you with your own systems.

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Speaker 10: They infiltrate and try to take advantage of open systems.

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Speaker 10: And number four recognize that even if we don't regard

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Speaker 10: them as an enemy, they regard us as an enemy.

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Speaker 10: That does not mean the Chinese people. The Chinese people

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Speaker 10: are great. The Chinese Communist Party is the greatest enemy

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Speaker 10: even of the Chinese people. And I think the United

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Speaker 10: States hopefully realizes this that they believe they can't coexist

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Speaker 10: with us.

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Speaker 17: Joshua, thank you so much for your time. We'll have

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Speaker 17: you on again soon and check out Crossroads. You're doing

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Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate it. Thank you.

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Speaker 15: We'll see you soon.