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I can't wait to go 51 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: on this journey with you. Thank you so much for subscribing. 52 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: It means the world to me. 53 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: The best selling authoring most the number one healthy wellness. 54 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: Podcast and Purpose with Jay Shetty. Hey everyone, welcome back 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: to On Purpose, the number one health and wellness podcast 56 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: in the world. Thanks to each and every one of 57 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: you that come back every week to listen, learn, and grow. 58 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 1: Our mission here is to make the world happier, healthier, 59 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: and more healed, and we do that through introducing you 60 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: to experts, stories, scientists, researchers, and doctors who have insights 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: that we can all apply and improve our day to 62 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 1: day life or maybe even the way we think and 63 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: live now. Today's guest is someone that I've been working 64 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: with personally for quite a few months now, if not 65 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: a bit longer than that, and he's someone that I'm 66 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: excited to introduce you to because he has so much 67 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: great insight and I love the way he approaches some 68 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: of the challenges that we're all facing in our daily 69 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: lives with our health and wellness. Today's guest is doctor 70 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: Shah darsh And Shah, MD, a health and wellness specialist, 71 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: Board certified surgeon, published author, entrepreneur and founder of Next Health, 72 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: the world's first and largest health optimization and longevity clinic. 73 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: With expertise in all body systems, Doctor Shah has performed 74 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: over fifteen thousand surgical procedures, including trauma surgery, general surgery, 75 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: and reconstructive procedures. As a help and we as specialist, 76 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: Darshan has advised thousands of patients on how to optimize 77 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: their well being and extend their lives. Plan Please welcome 78 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: to the show, Doctor Shah. Doctor Shah, thank you so 79 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: much for having me. Good to have you here. Yes, yeah, 80 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: I was thinking about it. I think we started working 81 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: together probably just under a year ago. It feels like. 82 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: It feels like about a year. 83 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: About yeah, about yeah, about a year. And I remember 84 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: we got introduced through my health coach, I believe. I 85 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: think I'm trying to now, I'm like trying to piece 86 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: it together. 87 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, connect the dots, your health coach, right. 88 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: Somona Sharma, who I've worked with for quite a few 89 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: years now, she introduced us. You have this incredible facility. 90 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: I know it's definitely in LA because that's where I go. 91 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: Where else do you have it? 92 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: So, yeah, we have three locations in LA, one in 93 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: New York and one also in Hawaii right now and Maui, 94 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 2: which is sadly right now what they're going through a lot. 95 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: But and now we're actually franchising all over the world, 96 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: so we'll be in Dubai, we will be in Canada, 97 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: Australia and all of the United States here pretty soon. 98 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: And talk to me about this transition that you made 99 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: very early on in your journey or not early on 100 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: actually sorry, more recently. Yeah, more recently. You made a 101 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: shift in your career, right because you went from practicing 102 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 1: as a doctor traditionally to now building next health Talk 103 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: to me about that transition and us to about why 104 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: you did that and what was the reasoning behind it. 105 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, most physicians never anticipate a 106 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: complete one to eighty transition in their career, especially after 107 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: you've like dedicated twenty five plus years. But I felt 108 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: a real need to do that, and it was mainly 109 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: because of my own personal health. So what happened was 110 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 2: I started off as a surgeon. I then also went 111 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: into the entrepreneurial side of surgery. It brought surgery centers 112 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: and I started hiring doctors as well, And so I 113 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: was spending half my life being a surgeon treating patients 114 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: in the operating room, the other half my life running 115 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: the business, and the other half of my life, you know, 116 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: trying to maintain my own health and my own sanity. 117 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: And unfortunately, that last part of my life just kind 118 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: of fell through the cracks, right, And so what happened 119 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: was I found myself, fifteen plus years into my career 120 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: as probably the most unhealthy person in the building that 121 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: I was working in. I was forty pounds overweight, and 122 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: you know, weight doesn't really matter for everything, but for me, 123 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: that really led to tons of health challenges, such as 124 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: I had high blood pressure and that blood pressure was 125 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 2: not getting any better despite being on two medications. I 126 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: was pre diabetic on diabetes medications, and I was not 127 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: able to move very well like all my joints sake, 128 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: because of an autoimmune disease starting. So, you know, I 129 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: was fifteen, sixteen years into my career and I was like, 130 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: I'm getting really, really sick. And at that point in 131 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: time as well, I had my first child. And you know, 132 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: having your first child is often like a time in 133 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: your life where you sit and reflect. And I was 134 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: actually doing the math, utilizing studies that say, like, if 135 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: you have this hemoglobin a one ce, this level of 136 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: high blood pressure, this level of obesity, how long you're 137 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: going to live? And as I was doing the math, 138 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: and I came quickly to the realization I was a 139 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: little bit older when I ended my first child, I 140 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 2: was forty, that I would not live to see him 141 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: potentially graduate from college. And to me, like that was 142 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: a major kind of punch in the gut, right, like 143 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: what am I doing to myself? And so that kind 144 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: of started this thought process and this transition in my 145 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 2: life where I said I need to make some massive 146 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: changes here, and I need to do a quick because 147 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: I need to be alive for this kid. You know, 148 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: I did what a lot of people do. I said, 149 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: you know, I need to find the best of the 150 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: best doctors. So I went to Beverly Hills. I researched 151 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: all the best concierge medicine doctors. You know, I hired 152 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: an expensive concierge medicine doctor. I said, your job is 153 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: to get me healthy. Went to his office, and you know, 154 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: paid a pretty penny for this too, wasn't she. He 155 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: did a bunch of tests on me, and he found 156 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: out that, yeah, I was pre diabetic and it was 157 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: getting a little bit worse, and I was hypertensive, and 158 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: I need to be another blood pressure medication. And probably 159 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: the reason I was having difficulty moving and you know, 160 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: be performing all the activities of my life that I 161 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: wanted to perform with vitality was because I was depressed. 162 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: So then he added an antidepression medication to my list 163 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: of meds. So my list of meds grew from eight 164 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: medications to twelve medications. And that's all he told me. 165 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: He just prescribed me four or five more things. There 166 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: wasn't even a mention of do you go to the gym, 167 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: how do you sleep? What's your stress level? Like? Not 168 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: even a question about that? And I thought to myself, like, 169 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: there is something really wrong here. And this is the 170 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: world that I grew up in, right, this is the 171 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 2: medical training that I grew up in medical school. When 172 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: I did med school back in the nineteen nineties, you 173 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: spent one day of one class talking about nutrition, maybe 174 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 2: half a day of another class talking about sleep. But 175 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: it was mostly about sleep disorders, right, like sleep apnea 176 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: and things like that. I did not have the knowledge. 177 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 2: So how can I expect this guy to have the knowledge? Right? 178 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: I mean, the Western medicine is so disease focused and 179 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: so reactive that unless things are really bad and we 180 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: can't prescribe you a pill or a surgery, there's nothing 181 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: they can offer you really, right. And so I saw 182 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: like a massive flaw here, and I decided, at that 183 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 2: moment in time, like I need to learn for myself 184 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: how to do this right. So decided to hire someone 185 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: else to take position in my office that I had 186 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: and just take some time off and educate myself. And 187 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: so that led to six months to a year of 188 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: going to every conference I could find and This was 189 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: like eight nine years ago. When I have a struggle, 190 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: my first instinct is to educate myself. Learn, learn, learn, 191 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: and so I went to every conference I could find. 192 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: I went to like physical therapy conferences. I went to 193 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: like how to become a personal trainer, registered dietitian courses. 194 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: I went to all these conferences and I learned so much, 195 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: and then I kind of stumbled into the field of 196 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: functional medicine. Have you heard of functional medicine? And I'm 197 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: sure you have. Yeah, Doctor hyman On here is one 198 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 2: of the fathers of functional medicine, my favorite people in 199 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: the whole world. But learn from him and others about 200 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: the root cause of illness and it was incredible, Like 201 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: within eight months, I was able to like completely turn 202 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: my health around. And as I was doing this, the 203 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: patience I was seeing I was helping them do the 204 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 2: same thing and they're like, how come no one told 205 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 2: me this? And so that's what kind of started my 206 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 2: new career in medicine. I said, you know, medicine is fantastic. 207 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: If you're helping sick people become unsick, you're treating cancer, 208 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: you're treating diabetes. But it's also to me exponentially more 209 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 2: fantastic when you're helping the other ninety percent of people 210 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: who aren't sick stay healthy and never get to that 211 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: point in the first place. And so for me, it 212 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: was just kind of bringing all that together and really 213 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: providing a place for people to go when you're not 214 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: yet sick, like when you not yet need to go 215 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 2: to the doctor of the hospital, where do you go. 216 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: It's not just the gym, right, There's much more you 217 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: need to do. It's a lot more work to be done. 218 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: And that's what I then dedicated my new kind of 219 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: my new life in medicine to is creating that. 220 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: Place well of those key is or the core areas 221 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: of next health based on functional medicine that you're measuring 222 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: and that you think we all need to be aware 223 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: of when we're looking at that three sixty degree look 224 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: at all health. 225 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: Right, right, So you know this is where I think, 226 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: you know, I have this conversation with all my patients. 227 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: We sit down and we say, look, there's an overwhelming 228 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: amount of health information out there, and a lot of 229 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: it is not based in science. There's a lot of 230 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: like majoring in minor things, right, there's a lot of 231 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: focus on like what's the best superfood or you know, 232 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: what's the how much caffeine should I have per day? 233 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: But like, in reality, what I tell people is, let's 234 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 2: break this down for you into the main components, and 235 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: over time, let me educate you on the main components 236 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: of health, but less not major in the minor things. 237 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 2: Let's focus on the twenty percent of the information that's 238 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: going to give you the eighty percent of the result, right, Like, 239 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 2: what are the key two or three things you need 240 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: to know on each aspect of your health to create 241 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: a major difference. And that's the Parreto principle, which is 242 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: where can you expand the least amount of energy to 243 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: get the most amount of results. And once you get 244 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: that right, you can absolutely go down the rabbit hole 245 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: further if you want to. So we start off. I 246 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: have this thing called wellness wheel, I call it. There 247 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: are twelve points in the wellness wheel. We start off 248 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: with the basics nutrition, sleep, and exercise, but then we 249 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: move on to gut health, immune system health, hormone health, 250 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 2: hard health, and brain health. And so then we spend 251 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 2: a lot of time talking about each one of those 252 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: individually and in each one of these categories what I 253 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 2: do is I try to frame it as this is 254 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: a three step process, and the first step is number one, 255 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: how do we make sure you're not dying from this right? 256 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: How do we make sure your nutrition is not killing 257 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 2: you like you're becoming a metabolic disaster with diabetes, or 258 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: how do we make sure that your immune system is 259 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,119 Speaker 2: healthy enough to prevent cancer? How do not die? Basically, 260 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: the second part of it is how do we improve 261 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: your health span? How do we keep you as healthy 262 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: as possible for as long as possible. And then the 263 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: last part is what's the advanced science out there in 264 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: the longevity world that we can implement into your life. 265 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: Once we make sure you're not in trouble and then 266 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: you've maasured how to take care of your health span yourself, 267 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: how do we then start applying these these new techniques 268 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: as new science. So a lot of people come to 269 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: us and they want to jump straight to like, how 270 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: how do I do NADIV, how do I do hyperbaric 271 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: oxygen therapy? I'm like, no, no, no, Let's hold on a second. 272 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: Let's make sure you're not eating ultra processed food first, 273 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: because that's what's going to make the biggest difference, right. Yeah, 274 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: So that's kind of how we frame it, and it's 275 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: we go down each one of these categories and talk 276 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: about what's going to make the biggest difference for people. 277 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: Fantastic, I think this is I wanted to lay that 278 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: out for people because I want to be able to 279 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: understand a you've been on this personal journey yourself. There's 280 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: a professional shift here as well, because you can see 281 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: the kind of challenges that come with traditional medicine and 282 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: how functional medicine is the future, even though it seems 283 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: like it's rooted in ancient times or an ODA method 284 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: that's coming back and then looking at these key areas 285 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: and that's what I want to dive in with you today, 286 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: if that's okay, Oh, absolutely, in all these areas because 287 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: I'd love to give people whoever listen to this episode, 288 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: whether you're watching at home, or whether you're you know, 289 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: cooking right now, whether you're listening with a partner or 290 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. I want this to be the 291 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: episode that you come back to to learn about these 292 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: areas of your health so you can become more proactive, 293 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: not reactive, and get focused on the areas that need help. 294 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: So really, yeah, let's dive in to Let's first start 295 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: with nutrition, because I think that it's such a big 296 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: area of our lives, and I think it's one of 297 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: those ones that everyone will say, Hey, I was put 298 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: in for surgery, but I was never really told to 299 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: change my diet or even even when I went last year, 300 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: like you helped me through my You didn't perform the surgery, 301 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: but you helped me through my ernia surgery. And I've 302 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: spoken that on the podcast a couple of times. And 303 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: I was never told to change my diet. However by 304 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: the doctors, you did tell me, and so did Mona. 305 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: If you had not told me that, it would have 306 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: been a lot harder to even recover. So even though 307 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't integral to this surgery, it did affect the recovery. 308 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: And so let's talk about nutrition. It's such a big 309 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: part of our life. Let's start with what has gone 310 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: wrong with our food? Like what what has changed about 311 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: our food that it's almost like a surprise to us 312 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: today that what we eat is affecting how we feel. 313 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really multi factorial, but it's all happened in 314 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: the last fifty or sixty years. You look at like 315 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: obesity rates, heart attack rates, diabetes rates the last fifty 316 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: years just exponentially increasing. And I think it's a few 317 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: things that happened. One was there was a little bit 318 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: of a panic back in the fifties that we weren't 319 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: going to have enough food to feed everybody, Right, so 320 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: the governments start putting into place subsidies and laws and 321 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 2: bringing corporations together to start mass producing food. And that 322 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: mass production of food led to overfarming of soil, packaging 323 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: foods to make them last longer. But then also, you know, 324 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: you have these packaged foods are not that inspire hiring, 325 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: So how do you make them taste better? You make 326 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: them hyper palatable. And then whenever you involve corporate America 327 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: in anything, right, what's the goal of corporations to make 328 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: a profit? How do you do that by making things 329 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: cheaper and making more of them? Right, So, now you 330 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: have these giant food conglomerates like making tons and tons 331 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: of food as cheaply as possible, and that means using chemicals, 332 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: it means using dyes, it means hiring scientists to make 333 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: it hyper palatable. So even though normally you're you know, 334 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: you would eat this thing and your body would be like, 335 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: what is this? This is horrible, and your body would 336 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: a sense how bad it is for you. Now you 337 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: can't because the scientists have made it taste good, right, 338 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: And so you have this massive kind of explosion of 339 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: ultra processed food. An entire supermarket. You look at the 340 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: square footage of a supermarket, only the outside of it 341 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: is dedicated to fresh food. The entire middle is frozen, process, boxed, 342 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: canned food. Right, And we have so much of it 343 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: in our society right now that that's really what's caused 344 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 2: a lot of the problems. In addition to that, we 345 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 2: have food coming from all over the world to us, 346 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: so as being shipped to us, is being stored, it's 347 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: being preserved, it's being grown and soiled, that's overfarmed, and 348 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: so we kind of come to this disaster point where 349 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 2: most of the food that we see that is being 350 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 2: supplied to our population has become full of toxins and 351 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: basically not healthy for you. So really we have to 352 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: really really look at and take a step back. How 353 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: do we eat fifty years ago and how can we 354 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 2: go back to that type of heating pattern. 355 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: Mental health is now talked about more than ever which 356 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: is awesome. I mean, I don't have to tell you 357 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: that it's a primary focus of on Purpose, but on 358 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: a day to day basis, many people don't know where 359 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: to turn or which tools can help. Over the past 360 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: couple of years, I've been working with Calm to make 361 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: mental wellness accessible and enjoyable, or as I like to say, 362 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: fun and ease. 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Calm your Mind, 372 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: Change your Life. I think that's the hard part, right, 373 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: Like you just said that, when you go into a 374 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: grocery store, you're seeing that the majority of is taken 375 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: up by process foods. People are thinking, well, how do 376 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: I what do I eat? Because it's almost like we've 377 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: got so used to eating out of tinscans, boxes, packets, 378 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: it almost even takes the second to think of what 379 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: food isn't in one of those, or isn't refrigerated, isn't 380 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: frozen or whatever it may be. Like, what would you say, 381 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: taking your eighty twenty principle as you were mentioning referring 382 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: to before, what is that thing that we can do 383 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: twenty percent? Because I think when we think about food, 384 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: it just feels so big and overwhelming, and then the 385 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: stress of cooking with our busy lives and working and 386 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: coming home late from work and trying to eat something quickly, 387 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: like the what's the quick win or what's the small 388 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: win that we can make? 389 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely, so the twenty percent here is working really 390 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: hard to eliminate that ultra processed food. Okay, so really 391 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: focusing on how do you get fresh, organic food into 392 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 2: your body as much as possible? And I could tell 393 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 2: you if you only make this one change, that's all 394 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: you need to worry about. You don't need to worry 395 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: about your protein content and your micronutrients, like all of 396 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: that will come with just switching from ultra processed food 397 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: to organic, fresh, whole foods, and then if that's only 398 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: one thing that you do, you've had a massive win. 399 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: That's going to give you the eighty percent of the result, 400 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: as it will force you to learn how to make 401 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: good food quickly because we're all busy, right, so how 402 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 2: do we make how do we make a quick protein 403 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: shake or how do we make a quick salad and 404 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 2: still get the nutrients in that we need to not 405 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: feel hungry. Once you start doing that, you find that 406 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: your hunger goes down just exponentially, You don't need to 407 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: eat as often, and you kind of eliminate you know, 408 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: snacking is such a huge thing now. It's almost like 409 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: we're taught that if you're not snacking, you're not going 410 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: to have enough energy for the day. And that's only 411 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 2: because we're snacking on processed food in between eating processed food, right, 412 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,959 Speaker 2: So really, once you start eating whole food again, you 413 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: can even a lot of people just stop even eating 414 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 2: one meal a day. They go straight into lunch and dinner. 415 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 2: I eat protein every morning for my meals. I need 416 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: to have protein in the morning that most people do. 417 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 2: And we could talk about fasting later too, and kind 418 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 2: of the change in thought around that, But making that 419 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 2: one change is going to give you eighty percent of 420 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: the result in my opinion and my experience talking to 421 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: hundreds of people about this over the last year too. 422 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: And then there's two or three things you can do 423 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: after that once you got that down, But that would 424 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: be number one for sure. Two and three Okay, so 425 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: number two is managing your glucose response curve. Okay, yeah, exactly. 426 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: So the science has come extremely far in this, and 427 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: what we know for a fact is, first of all, 428 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 2: we know for a fact that metabolic syndrome diabetes is rampant, 429 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: and it's just getting into more and more communities throughout 430 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: America all the time. And that's because of things like 431 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 2: we talked about snacking, ultra processed food, et cetera. But 432 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: it's also just people have forgotten how to eat in 433 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: a way that keeps your glucose curve under control. Now, 434 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: when I say glucose curve, that means that I'm talking 435 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 2: about like actually measuring your glucose all the time and 436 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 2: seeing when it goes up and when it goes down. 437 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: And so there's a device now that you can buy. 438 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 2: It's called a continuous glucose monitor have you worn one 439 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: of these yet? 440 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: I haven't seen them. Yeah, I think my wife had one. 441 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: Ah, fantastic. It is a game changer as far as 442 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: I'm concerned. I mean, I don't recommend a lot of 443 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: like you know, technology and things until it's like really 444 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: proven and vetted. But I really feel you this is 445 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: something we've used for diabetics for years now, but finally 446 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: people are starting to use it in their regular day life. 447 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: And you don't have to wear it forever. I just 448 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: wear mine for like six weeks, and I found incredible 449 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: amounts of information about how to eat. So for example, 450 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: one thing is, you know, we all sit down and 451 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: we start with chips or bread, right, it's the absolute 452 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: worst thing you can do. You want to start with 453 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 2: your vegetables first. That puts fiber into your body and 454 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: slows your digestive track. And then you do your protein 455 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: and fats, and last is the carbs, okay, because that'll 456 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: slow the release of glucose from the carbs. That's one 457 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: of the things you learn from wearing a continuous glucose monitor. 458 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: You also learn from wearing continuous glucose monitor what foods 459 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 2: shoot your glucose through the roof versus you know, rose, 460 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 2: anybody else's right, and it's different, Like if you eat 461 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: a banana, it could shoot your glucose through the roof 462 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 2: and your friend no problem at all. And that's because 463 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: your microbiome, your matabolism is different than every single other person. 464 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: So you can personalize the foods that you eat to 465 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 2: keep your glucose level steady. And if you keep your 466 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: glucose level as steady as possible day after day after day, 467 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: and you know, you can cheat. It's not like people 468 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 2: don't cheat. We all like to eat to dessert every 469 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: once in a while or cook it. But it really 470 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: makes you cognizant of what's happening internally. And you know, 471 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: we live our life not being cognizant of what's happening 472 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 2: internally until we feel really, really bad. This really teaches you, 473 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: like how your body is reacting to the food that 474 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 2: you eat. So I recommend all my patients, you know, 475 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 2: six weeks of a continuous glucose monitor really learn how 476 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 2: your glucose curve reacts to certain foods. There's a really 477 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: good book out there, it's called The Glucose Revolution, is 478 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: very well written. You can read it in like three 479 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 2: four hours about how to manage your glucose curve. I 480 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: love that book. I give it to all my patients 481 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 2: as well, and I think you learn a lot. So 482 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 2: number two is managing your glucose curve. 483 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: Well, that's fantastic. You know what. I love talking to 484 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: you because you make it sound so simple and accessible, 485 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: Like whenever I talk to you, I find it so 486 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: easy to understand what I need to do, why I 487 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 1: need to do it, why it makes sense. And I 488 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: don't need to be as well versed in what you're 489 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: talking about as you are, right, and it's not overly 490 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: technical in a way that I can't wrap my head 491 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: around it. So I love how practical you just made that, 492 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: especially how we eat what's on our plate, because I 493 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: think so many of us spend so long trying to 494 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: figure out like, oh maybe I shouldn't eat that and 495 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have that. It's actually the order can make 496 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: all the difference. And now everyone who's listening or watching, 497 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: make sure that you don't go and start with the 498 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: bread or the chips and you know instead, yeah, exactly exactly. 499 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: That's why they serve it first. Well, now I guess 500 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: they serves chips and walk first too, But what was 501 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: the number three? 502 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 2: So number three and number three and number four. It 503 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,959 Speaker 2: can be switched around based on your particular dietary pattern, 504 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: but I would say number three is making sure you 505 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: have adequate protein intake. And a lot of people they 506 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: diet and they not just cut back on the the 507 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: carbs they eat the fat state, but they also cut 508 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 2: back of the amount of protein the eed and you 509 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: lose weight on the scale, but you're losing more muscle 510 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: mass and you're losing fat. And that's a travesty because 511 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: you need your muscle mass to support not just support 512 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: your bones and give you strength, but it's also one 513 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 2: of the biggest organs in your body that's preventing you 514 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: from going into diabetes, cancer and dementia. So preserving muscle 515 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 2: mass is key. So I have all of my patients 516 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: by this really cool scale that I like. It's called 517 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: the in Body H two end Scale H twenty end scale, 518 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: and it's a scale that you step on, but you 519 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 2: also grab onto these handlebars and it tells you your 520 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 2: skeletal muscle mass. Okay, so you cannot just track your 521 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 2: body fat percentage, but also your skeletal muscle mass and Obviously, 522 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: you want to maintain your skeletal muscle mass, especially the 523 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 2: older you get. So the closer you get to forteen 524 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: and fifty, you need to have a big store of 525 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 2: skeletal muscle mass because it's going to decline. We all 526 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: start declining after the age of fifty, and it takes 527 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: a lot of protein, a lot of strength training to 528 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 2: make up for that decline. And you want to maintain 529 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: that skeletal muscle mass. Number one thing to do is 530 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 2: have one gram per pound of body weight of protein 531 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: per day, broken up into three to four divided dosages. Okay, 532 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 2: so you do that, you step on this scale. I 533 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: like weighing myself every day. It gives you that accountability 534 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 2: factor and you can track the data and make sure 535 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: you're maintaining skeletal muscle mass and if you need to 536 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 2: decreasing fat mass. Now, one gram per pound of body weight, 537 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: Like people don't really know, like what is that really? 538 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: So look it up. Most people weigh you know, somewhe 539 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: around one hundred fifty pounds. Look up one hundred and 540 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 2: fifty grams of protein. Look that up on Google and 541 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: you'll see all sorts of infographics and it's a lot 542 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: of protein. It's not a small amount of protein, and 543 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 2: if you're vegetarian or vegan, you can still do this, 544 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 2: but you're going to probably need a little bit more 545 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: because only about eighty percent of that is bioavailable protein. 546 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 2: So you want to maybe even increase a little bit more. 547 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 2: And once you see that infographic, once you see your 548 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 2: just even like, buy a little scale and measure out 549 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: one hundred fifty grams of protein, see what it is, 550 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: You're like, oh, wow, I am really not getting enough 551 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 2: protein day. 552 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about that a lot later myself. I've 553 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: been looking at that and Roddy and I were talking 554 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: about it and I was like, yeah, I'm not sure 555 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: I'm getting as much protein as I need to be getting. 556 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: And I'm obviously plant based, so that was something that 557 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: we were diving into. What are the best plant based 558 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: sources of protein that you're seeing and that actually add 559 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: up to that amount? Not I know what the sources are, 560 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: but it's almost like, how do you get that much 561 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: of it? Yeah? 562 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you know what the sources are, 563 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: like beans and grains and all, but also I myself 564 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: and all my vegetarian and vegan friends, I recommend you 565 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: know Pee protein powder. It's really good. It goes down easily. 566 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: Put it like you need to add it to like 567 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: your oatmeal and other other things that you're eating, and 568 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: you'll you'll start building up, you know. And look, the 569 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: idea is not to get from like ten grams of 570 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: protein to day all the way to one hundred and 571 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: fifty grams. You build up slowly over time, and you 572 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 2: see what kind of works for you. All of this 573 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: needs to be individualized. And that's why I like having 574 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: like that data point which is the bioimpetent scale that 575 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: in body scale, because you can see like, oh wow, 576 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: my scale and muscle mass is going up. I'm doing good. Now, 577 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: like here's where I need to be, right so you 578 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: can really personalize it for yourself. 579 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: Okay, fantastic, this is this is already helping me. I'm 580 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: like listening to everything you're saying. This is it's so 581 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: relatable and so so actionable immediately, which which is fantastic. 582 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: And I love the and I keep keep please keep 583 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: sharing like the tools or the the gadgets that we 584 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: can have or websites, your books, because I want all 585 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: of our community to feel really supported and go Okay, 586 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: that's what I haven't read yet. 587 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: Or yeah, absolutely, And I have no financial like hookup 588 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: with any of these companies. I'll tell you if I do. 589 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: But this is the stuff that I love and I've 590 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: seen my patients really take too as well. So I'm 591 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna blurt them out and do your research, 592 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: you know. 593 00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, let's talk a bit about supplements. And because 594 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of like mixed messaging 595 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: out there about what's needed, how much of it's needed. 596 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: Some people are like, well, none of it really gets 597 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: absorbed and does it make a difference, And there's always 598 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: a debate about it. How do you go about figuring 599 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: out what someone needs as an individual as opposed to 600 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: just taking what everyone's taking because you keep hearing about 601 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: it everyone. 602 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a great question. And we can't even 603 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: talk about that, Jay without talking about number four on 604 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: the list, which was vegetables. All right, and I'll tell 605 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: you why. So the fourth thing, which is as important 606 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: as protein, is getting enough vegetables in your diet on 607 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: a daily basis. So do you know how much that is? 608 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: By chance? 609 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I have a lot of vegetables, right, 610 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: but I have no idea, so you're gonna have to 611 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: tell me. 612 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: Right, And so a lot a lot of people really 613 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: know like what's the right amount, And really the amount 614 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: of vegetables you eat has a lot to do with 615 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: the amount of fiber intake you need, which ninety percent 616 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: of America doesn't get enough fiber, and fiber is a 617 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: critical ingredient of our diet. Secondly, that's for most of 618 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: our micronutrients and phyto nutrients are is in those vegetables. Thirdly, 619 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 2: they just keep you full and satiated all the time 620 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: as well. So getting enough vegetables in your diet is 621 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 2: extremely important. The number that I've seen in a lot 622 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: of fitness and nutrition gurus talk about is it's a 623 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: big number. It's like eight hundred grams of vegetables. It's 624 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: about a quart of vegetables, right, So once again, get 625 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: your scale and measure this out and see what it is. 626 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: It's not a small amount. It's like two full salads 627 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: a day, but that's kind of what we need to 628 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: work up to. So if you're doing that, the need 629 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: for supplementation is minimal to none. Actually, I'm not a 630 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 2: big supplement pusser. I'd much rather people get it in 631 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: your diet. The reality of the situation is, however, it's 632 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 2: really hard to get that much protein and that much 633 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: vegetable product into your diet right And of course we 634 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: can't talk about vegetables without talking about making sure you're 635 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: buying organic. You know, you're buying as local as possible. 636 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: And if you can go to EWG dot org Environmental 637 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: Working Group's website, they'll give you a list of what 638 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: are the most toxic vegetables and the least toxic out 639 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: there right now. So look at that website and I'll 640 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: give you the list. So, if you're not getting enough 641 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: vegetable intake into your diet, the next step is to 642 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: add some supplementation to that. The most common supplements I 643 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: recommend for people are vitamin D. We don't get enough 644 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: sunlight to produce it. We're not getting enough in our diets, 645 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: so most people do need some vitamin D. It needs 646 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: to be dialed in based on a blood test, so 647 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: you do a blood test. I like the vitamin D 648 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: level to be around fifty to eighty and the vitamin 649 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: D form that I like people to take is vitamin 650 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 2: D three K two. The K two is also another 651 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: vitamin added in. It prevents over absorption of calcium with 652 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: the vitamin D and deposition of calcium in your blood vessels. 653 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: So vitamin D three K two. Then fish oil supplement 654 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: as well for the vegetarians and vegans out there. There's 655 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: some great non fish sources of fish oil as well, 656 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 2: so I would do that as well. Magnesium is something 657 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: that we're all very deficient in, so I would do 658 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 2: magnesium as well. And then creatine. Believe it or not, 659 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: I meino acid that has a lot of research behind it. 660 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: Do you do creatine? Yes, yeah, five to eight milligrams 661 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: every morning, just put a scoop in your coffee and 662 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: mixes in with anything. I think. That's another really interesting 663 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: good one. And then I kind of then, you know, 664 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 2: kind of do it based on what I ate the 665 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: day before, Right, So if I got a couple of 666 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: good salads in fine, I don't need to do anything else. 667 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: If I didn't, I'll take a packet of AG one, 668 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 2: which is like a phyto nutrient powder which I really like, 669 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 2: and or a multivitamin sometimes as well. I'll do that too. 670 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: And then protein powders are pretty much always a staple 671 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: for me as well. That's the other supplement that I use. 672 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: You're just putting that onto other stuff, Yeah. 673 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: Putting that onto other stuff, putting that into a shake. 674 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: You know, shakes are very convenient. There's a really good 675 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: protein powder I like called super Gut. It's actually a 676 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: resistant starch and a protein powder and fiber all in 677 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: one like bag. And so super God is a fantastic 678 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: like rescue product I have, Like if I've been on 679 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: a plane for eight hours or something, you know, and 680 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: I just come home and just take down and get 681 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: my nutrition in and that's pretty much it. You know, 682 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: there's other things you can do, Like if you're having 683 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: trouble sleeping, there's Ashwa Ganda, there's glycine. If you're having 684 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: trouble with stress, Ashaganda is another good one for that. 685 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: But then I'm really selective about which ones to use. 686 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, great, those are fantastic. That's a really good 687 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: breakdown for anyone. I mean, I remember when I first 688 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: started measuring that with Mona is like my vitamin D, 689 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: which you would never have known if you met me 690 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: or saw me. It was ten yeah, and it was 691 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: just like I was living my life like I was 692 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: on planes I was giving keynotes. I was I was healthy, 693 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: I was energetic, whatever, and she was just like, I 694 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: don't even know how you function. I was out of ten. 695 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: It was like it was and I was unaware. 696 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 2: How old were you when you do this? 697 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: This is this is like a year and a half. 698 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: Oh okay. It was just interesting to me because the 699 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: only thing I could feel is like I was feeling 700 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: a bit fatigue, and that was the only thing. And 701 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: that's why I think that the reason why I'm raising 702 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: that for my audience and community here today is don't 703 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: take it for granted, and don't assume that you might 704 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: be like, oh, I don't need any of these videamin supplements. 705 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: It's like it could be the tiniest thing that you're 706 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: experiencing as a symptom. It's important to take it seriously 707 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: because you don't want to be at a ten. 708 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 2: You bring up an extremely good point. A couple points 709 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: I want to make here. One is you have to 710 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 2: become the CEO of your own health. And what I 711 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 2: mean by that is a CEO manages a business by 712 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: looking at numbers on a daily basis. Right, most people 713 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 2: manage their health based on a feeling that they have 714 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 2: symptoms that they have. They're not looking at numbers. So 715 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: becoming the CEO of your own health means knowing what 716 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 2: are the key KPIs of your health. There's only about 717 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: ten of them, skeletal muscle mass being one of them, 718 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: body five percentage being another, Vitamin D level being another. 719 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: You got to keep that dialed in right, because the 720 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 2: other point I want to make with you is that 721 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 2: when your vitamin D level is low, like at this age, 722 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: and you don't take care of it for twenty to 723 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 2: thirty years, that's when the lack of vitamin D leads 724 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 2: to the higher risk of Alzheimer's, lease to the higher 725 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 2: risk of heart attack, least the higher risk of hormone problems. 726 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: It all started twenty to thirty years before when you 727 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 2: barely felt you see what I mean. So looking at 728 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: those numbers twenty to thirty years ahead of becoming sick 729 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 2: is the key to becoming CEO of your own health 730 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 2: and then making all those diseases a non issue, Making 731 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 2: all the things that people die of a non issue. 732 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: Fantastic. Yeah. No, I couldn't agree more And I'm so 733 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: glad you made that connection because I think it often 734 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 1: when you find it out long term. You didn't feel 735 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: as like a surprise, right, But actually it is. And 736 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: if you're looking at the numbers, and I think we 737 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: just haven't been trained to look at our health in 738 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: terms of numbers, like you'd measure your height growing up, 739 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: or you'd measure your weight growing up, but those are 740 00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,240 Speaker 1: such poor indicators of health in and of themselves without 741 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: looking at all of these other metrics that we're talking 742 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: about here today, whether it's your glucose levels, whether it's 743 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: your vitamin D levels, magnesium in se try, you mentioned 744 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: so many other vitamins and supplements. I just don't think 745 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: we're trained to know where to look and what to 746 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: look at, and therefore we're basing it on I feel 747 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: tired today, I feel and I think this is something 748 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: I want to mention as well, that the mind and 749 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: the body are so connected. But I think so often 750 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: our physical challenges we think are a mental challenge. So 751 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: we think we're tired because we have we're not focused enough, 752 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: or we're not excited enough, or we're not motivated enough. 753 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: We make the physical issue a mental issue, but it isn't. 754 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: It's purely a physical And I know that because I 755 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: feel so purposeful and love what I do, and I'm 756 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: so joyful about it, and I'm so excited about it. 757 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: So if my body's not working to the degree I 758 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: want it to, I'm very clear that you can have 759 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: all the mental stuff down, but if you're not taking 760 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: care of your body, it doesn't just you can push 761 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: it a bit further, but that's not going to get 762 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: you up the hill. 763 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: So you're absolutely right this. When your brain starts feeling it, 764 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 2: usually your body is in big trouble. That's when you 765 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 2: start feeling it. So, you know, I think your point 766 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 2: about the numbers is so it resonates with me because 767 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 2: that's what happened to me when I became sick. I 768 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 2: outsourced my numbers to my primary care doctor and my 769 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 2: you know, concierge medicine doctor, and they got my numbers back. 770 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,479 Speaker 2: They looked at them, and you know, you get these 771 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 2: if you've ever seen your blood work sheet, like if 772 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 2: something is out of range, it turns red. Otherwise it's 773 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 2: all black. It's all like a bunch of numbers. Right, 774 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: And so because things were like barely in the red 775 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 2: and not moving, they decided not to even talk to 776 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 2: me about them. Right, But in reality, things were changing 777 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 2: for a long time and going in the wrong direction. 778 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 2: And that's because Western medicine can't really do anything about 779 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 2: that number until they can prescribe you a pill for it, 780 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 2: and that pill only comes when it is disease time. 781 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 2: That's the problem. And I also think people get overwhelmed 782 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: with the numbers because you know, most people, you don't 783 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 2: know what these numbers are mean. So what I really 784 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 2: try to do with my patients is give them like 785 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 2: ten numbers. These are the ten numbers you need to 786 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 2: watch and why. And I think that makes it a 787 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 2: lot easier for them. So I give them a spreadsheet, 788 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 2: I let them watch their own numbers. And I think 789 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: it's important for them to watch their own numbers rather 790 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 2: than outsource their health to their physician, because they need 791 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 2: to know what the optimal ranges, not just a disease range. Right, 792 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 2: So let me just give you one more real quick 793 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 2: on the glucose because it's a really important one. It's 794 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 2: a hemoglobin A one C and you probably heard of 795 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 2: this before too. It's a measure of your last three 796 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 2: months average of glucose and you're pre diabetic when this 797 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 2: number is five point seven and you're diabetic when it's 798 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 2: six point five or above. My number was five point 799 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 2: seven and he just put me on a medication. But 800 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 2: five years ago I had measured this with my doctor 801 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 2: and it had gone from four point seven to five 802 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 2: point zero to five point two to five point three 803 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 2: to five point four, and no one said anything to me, 804 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 2: you know, And I could have done something about it 805 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 2: back then before I had to. Now it's an emergency, right, 806 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 2: So I think that's another number of people should watch 807 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 2: nutrition wise. Is that hemoglobin a one cee number. And 808 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 2: I guarantee you if people call their doctors and ask 809 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 2: for their latest blood work result, it's on there, or 810 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 2: it should be. If it's not on there, you have 811 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 2: a bigger problem. But it should be on there and 812 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 2: you'll see kind of where you're at. You know. 813 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: This is fantastic doctor show. Thank you so much. All right, 814 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: I want to dive into let's do exercise next. You 815 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: brought that up. I want to dive into it. And 816 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: if I if there's any ever a time when you 817 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: want to go back or share something, feel free. This 818 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: is all about giving the most value to everyone who's 819 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: listening watching. When we talk about exercise, I think everyone's 820 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: kind of always known they need to exercise. One of 821 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: the things I love. Before we start talking about the 822 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 1: technicality of it, you talk a lot about the need 823 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: for social exercising, which I love that because recently I've 824 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: been playing so much pickleball with friends. I don't know 825 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: if you I got to play pick a ball with you, 826 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: and it's just it. It's like I have played at 827 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: this point. Today I don't I'm not playing today. I 828 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: played the last five days ROW every day. I probably 829 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: played for an average of two hours a day on average, 830 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: some days with three, some days one. And it is 831 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: such an easy workout because you're just running around, you're swaying, 832 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: you're having a good time with friends, you're outdoors. And 833 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: I've made it a priority in my life that all 834 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: of my friendships this year, we're gonna do something active together. 835 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: So instead of getting together and sitting down and eating dinner, 836 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: even though I love doing that, we're actually going to 837 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: go on a hike instead, or we're going to go 838 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 1: on a walk. And if I don't feel like going 839 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 1: on a hike or a walk, then at least we're 840 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: just gonna do something active, whether it be an escape room. 841 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: So that we're moving around, or if it is that 842 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: I have enough energy to play pickleball, we're doing that. 843 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: The idea is, how can every friendship be based on 844 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: fitness that is also fun, rather than friendship which is 845 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 1: based on us sitting on a couch watching a movie together, 846 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: which by the way, I still do as well, but 847 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: that can't be the primary way to hang out. 848 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 2: Such an incredibly good point. And I just spent the 849 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 2: last week in Ohi with some of my friends and 850 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 2: literally like we would not sit down until we all 851 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 2: hit ten thousand steps. Yeah, you know, for the day. 852 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 2: And pickleball was part of it, hiking was part of it. 853 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 2: And you know, the old adage is so true. You 854 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,959 Speaker 2: become the average of the eight people you surround yourself with, right, 855 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 2: And so if the eight people you're friends with, like 856 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 2: my community of friends, we work out together, that is 857 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 2: our social activity and it's so much fun. We find 858 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: different things to do. You know, we're lucky we live 859 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,919 Speaker 2: in the hills and we can hike together, we can 860 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 2: go to these really fun gyms together. But it makes 861 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,240 Speaker 2: exercise not exercise. I think what happens and why people 862 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 2: don't get enough exercise is because exercise is literally like 863 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 2: going to the gym by yourself, and it's not inspiring 864 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 2: a lot of times when you go to the gym 865 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 2: if you don't especially if you don't have a trainer. 866 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 2: You know, and social exercise for me was the cure 867 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 2: getting enough movement in my day. 868 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, it's huge, And tell us about let's talk 869 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: about what type of movement is needed, because I think again, 870 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: we have so many preconceived notions. Exercise in someone's head 871 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: could be like weightlifting, that's what it looks like. Exercise 872 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 1: could be doing a high intensity workout at a gym. 873 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: Exercise could mean a sport. What movement do we actually 874 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: need to genuinely be healthy in a real way, because 875 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: you could be doing any or none of these things 876 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: and you could or could not be healthy. So what 877 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: is that? What do we actually need? What do our 878 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: bodies need? 879 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 2: I love this question because it's counterintuitive. Okay, So people 880 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 2: are always like, what do I need to do? Go 881 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 2: to the gym? How many sets and reps and minutes 882 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 2: on the treadmonk do I need? And I tell them, wait, 883 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 2: once again, preto principle, all you have to do is 884 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 2: move all day long. So sedentary behavior, which means sitting 885 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 2: for more than an hour at a time, for eight 886 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 2: hours a day, is literally what's killing most of us 887 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 2: right now. So what happens is most people have an 888 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 2: eight hour job. Right out of that eight hour job, 889 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 2: they'll sit for two hours, maybe get up to go 890 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 2: to the bathroom, sit down for two or three hours, again, 891 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 2: have lunch where they're sitting. So just sitting for long 892 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 2: periods of time increases your rate of mortality exponentially. So 893 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 2: for every ten percent additional time you spend sitting, you 894 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 2: have an increase of ten percent and your all cause mortality. 895 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 2: And it's like lineara say that again. Yeah, for every 896 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 2: ten percent of time that you spend sitting over a baseline, 897 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 2: you have a ten percent increase in all cause mortality. 898 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 2: Big studies. Yeah, it's crazy how much sitting just moving 899 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 2: changes the entire equation. So once you go from being 900 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 2: sedentary to not sedentary, your rate of death from heart attacks, 901 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 2: from Alzheimer's and dementia, from stroke, from anything goes down exponentially. 902 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,280 Speaker 2: So what I tell people is, no matter what, every 903 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 2: forty five minutes, you can take an exercise snack. And 904 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 2: this has been proven in research as well, every forty 905 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 2: five minutes, spend ten minutes getting up and walking around 906 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 2: a little bit. And if you do that, you've broken 907 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 2: the cycle of sedentary behavior completely. So what I do 908 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 2: is I have my patients buy like a little egg timer, 909 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 2: like a little metal it looks like an egg and 910 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 2: we just set it to forty five, put it down, 911 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 2: and when it rings, you get up, walk around and 912 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 2: guess what, that's the same amount of time needed to 913 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 2: break the strain in your eyes, to break the stress 914 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: cycle as well. So it's a really good idea to 915 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,399 Speaker 2: take these exercise snacks when you're at home. I'm sorry 916 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 2: when you're at work, but then also when you're at home, 917 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 2: people sit down and watch TV for two hours, so 918 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 2: it happens again. So that's step one is don't be sedentary. 919 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 2: Even athletes. There's so many athletes that are sedentary during 920 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 2: the day like or during the evening that they're affected 921 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,959 Speaker 2: by this as well. So focus on that first, don't 922 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 2: be sedentary. Then step two on exercise is now what 923 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 2: kind of activity can we put in to really start 924 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 2: like moving the needle with how exercise can improve your 925 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 2: longevity and health span. So do you want to talk 926 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 2: about that a little bit too. 927 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, before you dive into that, there's something that I'm 928 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: really glad to hear of that, because one thing I've 929 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: been recommending to a lot of my corporate clients is 930 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: I don't know who invented thirty minute and sixty minute meetings. 931 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: I just don't know where that came from. We just 932 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 1: invent these things where they have to be that long. 933 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: And I've started saying to so many of my clients 934 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: who are living like, I don't live a meeting to 935 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 1: meeting life anymore. So I get a lot of movement. 936 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: I'll stand up, I'll walk over there, I walk back, 937 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: I'll walk next door, I'll jump in a car, we'll 938 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: walk to the meeting. So I thankfully have a lot 939 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: of movement in my day. But when I used to 940 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,760 Speaker 1: work in the corporate world, I used to always tell everyone, 941 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: have a fifty five minute meeting, or have a twenty 942 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: five minute meeting. That then gives you an extra five 943 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: minutes to stand up, to walk, to get hydrated, to 944 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: look out of a window well maybe get some fresh air, 945 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: and then to look out into the distance so that 946 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: you're not constantly shortsighted. I feel today We're constantly looking 947 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: at our phone, at our laptop, an iPad, and we're 948 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: becoming more and more shortsighted. And that's why it kind 949 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,320 Speaker 1: of feels like our mind can feel a bit crowded 950 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: and clouded. And to me, just going outside and looking 951 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,720 Speaker 1: out into the distance, maybe spotting a bird, a cloud, 952 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: a distant building, it just opens up the mind a 953 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: little bit. And I feel like, just shifting it from 954 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: having five minutes off every hour, which isn't going to 955 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: negatively impact a meeting, You're not going to achieve anything 956 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 1: more in that extra five minutes. And same with if 957 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,919 Speaker 1: you took fifteen minutes off a meeting. Maybe if meeting 958 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 1: shifted to being forty five not an hour, I think 959 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,720 Speaker 1: you'd achieve so much more in the meeting too, because 960 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: now you have less time. And so I just think 961 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: there's so much there and I just want to give 962 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: people more value on that that it's so easy and 963 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: practical to implement some of this, and a lot of 964 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: it's just breaking these old rules that have just lasted 965 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: for far too long. 966 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, so true. And you must have talked to Google 967 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 2: about this, because on Google Calendar you can program twenty 968 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,439 Speaker 2: five minute meetings. Do you know that? Or I don't know, yeah, 969 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 2: or fifty five minute meetings, so every meeting is automatically 970 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 2: like short by five or ten minutes. 971 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that. 972 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then what I tell people do too is 973 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 2: switch from a regular Zoom account to the Freezom account 974 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 2: because it kicks you off in forty minutes. That's not 975 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 2: it's just like, sorry, guys, I gotta go. I'm running 976 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 2: out of time here. 977 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you might look cheap, but you save your health. 978 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. But on that one more double click on that 979 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 2: point too, is that if you do have a life, 980 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 2: we have to spend a lot of time at your 981 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 2: desk on the computer on meetings. Really consider getting a 982 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 2: treadmill desk or a walking desk. That's been a game 983 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 2: changer for me too, Like I'll get twenty five thirty 984 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 2: thousand steps in after three hours of meetings. You know, 985 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,240 Speaker 2: it's pretty pretty incredible amount of steps. 986 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing, all right, sor right, So go to 987 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: the number two on the X. 988 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 2: Okay, so number two. I always think the most important 989 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 2: thing that you can first start doing in an exercise 990 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,240 Speaker 2: routine is strength training, especially after the age of forty 991 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 2: muscle breakdown is a root of all physical problems and 992 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 2: frailty as we age, and so really getting into a 993 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 2: good strength training routine is key. And then secondly, you 994 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 2: want to work on your cardio right, and cardio really 995 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 2: and you think about it in two prongs. There's anaerobic 996 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:10,720 Speaker 2: and aerobic, and anaerobic is basically, you know, working really hard, 997 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 2: and then you have the aerobic where you're not working 998 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 2: as hard and you're utilizing oxygen to make energy. So 999 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 2: the way you do your anaerobic I like using hit exercises. 1000 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 2: There's anaerobic training protocols I guess sports right exactly where 1001 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 2: you're working really hard. You don't have to do a 1002 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 2: lot of that every week, but you do need to 1003 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 2: get some of that in every week. And then I 1004 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:34,800 Speaker 2: really like what Peter Atia says about Zone two aerobic exercise, 1005 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 2: I getting thirty to forty five minutes a day and 1006 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 2: to start every other day or so. I think that's important. 1007 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 2: But look, it's so hard for people to fit all 1008 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 2: this into their lives, right, so you got to make 1009 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 2: it as easy as possible. So there's like these seven 1010 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 2: minute hit routine apps that you can do, which are 1011 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 2: fantastic getting a set of barbells and putting them in 1012 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 2: your closet or your bedroom, so every time you go there, 1013 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 2: you do fifteen twenty, like you know, Arnold presses or 1014 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 2: something that, as long as it's consistent and done on 1015 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 2: a daily basis for busy people, is going to be 1016 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 2: extremely helpful. I think a lot of people think like 1017 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,359 Speaker 2: it's either go to the gym for an hour three 1018 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,720 Speaker 2: to four days a week or just give up completely. Yeah, 1019 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,919 Speaker 2: and nothing can be part of that from the truth, right. 1020 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you're saying literally, having something at your office desk, 1021 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: having something in your bedroom, just that little bit of 1022 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 1: addition to your already busy life is going to make 1023 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,879 Speaker 1: a difference. And we need to stop having this glorified 1024 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 1: view of going to the gym and having the perfect 1025 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: workout routine. Right, how do we get how do we get? 1026 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 1: How have you found people get rid of that perfectionist 1027 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 1: mentality when it comes to health, because I feel like 1028 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: we also have it with food. 1029 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 2: We have it. 1030 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 1: We talked about nutrition. We have it with exercise, where 1031 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: it's like I'm going to eat really healthy or I'm 1032 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 1: gonna eat really bad, Like if I had a pizza 1033 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 1: too many days in a row. I might as well 1034 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 1: just carry on eating pizza, because, oh, it's not going 1035 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,240 Speaker 1: to matter that I had vegetables for one day, although 1036 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: you would argue it does matter and that one day 1037 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: of breaking the cycle is probably useful. How have you 1038 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: worked with clients on that mental aspect of it, because 1039 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 1: that's obviously what I focus on in my work so much. 1040 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear about it from yours. 1041 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you knows. There's a lot of science around habit 1042 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 2: building and routine building. Atomic Habits is a great book 1043 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 2: that I read. There's a couple others that I really like. 1044 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 2: It is this kind of like this reward and cycle 1045 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 2: that you reward yourself over. You have to consistently reward 1046 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 2: yourself on a daily basis for doing the right things 1047 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,720 Speaker 2: and then not punish yourself for doing the wrong things. 1048 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 2: And so I think there's a lot of psychology around that. 1049 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 2: It's it's honestly, it's really hard. I mean, we find 1050 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 2: it hard for ourselves too, right, But I really believe 1051 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 2: in having a positive attitude about it. I think if 1052 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 2: you come at it with positivity and say, you know what, 1053 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 2: it's fine, I messed up, but I'm going to do it. 1054 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 2: You're just positive about it. That in itself is a 1055 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:52,319 Speaker 2: psychological barrier broken into starting today as the first day 1056 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 2: of your life to start building new habits again. 1057 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely right, absolutely, yeah, it's I think I can't remember 1058 00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 1: who said it, but I've had the Rock say plenty 1059 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: of times. He's like, it's either one day or day one, right, 1060 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: And he always quote that right as the mindset like 1061 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: it's either one day we'll get through it, one day, 1062 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 1: I'll do it one day, or it's like, no, today's 1063 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 1: day one. This is the day that I'm going to 1064 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: solve it and start it. And I think that's that 1065 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 1: positive mindset you're speaking. 1066 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 1067 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 1: Was there a point through an exercise that you wanted 1068 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: to make? I'm sure there's a point seven, but yeah, 1069 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 1: is there another one you wanted to kind of. 1070 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 2: We should probably stop there on exercises, There's absolutely more 1071 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 2: you can do as you get older. You know your 1072 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 2: audience spans all ages and everyone. As you get older, 1073 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,879 Speaker 2: you really want to look at stability and balance. So 1074 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,759 Speaker 2: I try to do stability and balance exercises on a 1075 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,800 Speaker 2: daily basis as well, things like standing on one foot 1076 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 2: believe it or not. Yeah, just things like that. As 1077 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 2: we get older, we lose that and if you're not 1078 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 2: training it, especially after the age of fifty, you're going 1079 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,760 Speaker 2: to keep losing it. And then the number one killer 1080 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 2: of older people is becoming frail falling because they lose 1081 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 2: their balance, and breaking a hip or a bone usually 1082 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,720 Speaker 2: takes out most older people, and so you can avoid 1083 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,720 Speaker 2: that by incorporating some stability balanced routines in your life. 1084 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you also looking at it from the 1085 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: perspective of, like, let's stop there, because I think so 1086 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 1: often people listen to podcasts or read books and there's 1087 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 1: just so much information and then that makes us go, 1088 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: all right, I don't know what it's start. And so 1089 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 1: I love the fact that you're like, well, wait a minute, 1090 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 1: let's just this is step one, this is stage two. 1091 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,760 Speaker 1: I love that very curriculum, systematic based approach to monstering 1092 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 1: our health rather than starting on point number seven and 1093 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: then figuring it out. 1094 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 2: So and like what I do with my patients is 1095 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 2: like we're having this conversation about everything, but I'll only 1096 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 2: give them one thing to do right, and like we'll 1097 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 2: change two or three things, and then you come back 1098 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 2: and we'll do the next thing, and then the next thing. 1099 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,320 Speaker 2: So let's not worry about how much protein you have 1100 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 2: in your diet until you clean out your pantry and 1101 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 2: get rid of all the crap in your pantry. Right, 1102 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 2: let's do that first, and then let's talk again next week. 1103 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 2: And so we take it at a step wise approach. 1104 00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 2: But if whoever's listening to this, you know, if you're 1105 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 2: taking notes, don't try to implement all of it at 1106 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,879 Speaker 2: the same time. Overwhelmed and quit. 1107 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, absolutely, all right, let's talk about sleep. So 1108 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: I've generally been a good sleep of my whole life 1109 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: and very grateful for that. By measuring, I was going 1110 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,880 Speaker 1: to say, by measuring, not by how I feel. By measuring, 1111 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about an experience that I had 1112 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: that was bad, which was surprising for me. So I 1113 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 1: was wearing the or ring for a long time measuring 1114 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: my sleep, and I was scoring really well. And then 1115 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 1: during the pandemic, we moved home and we were renting 1116 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:40,319 Speaker 1: a place that was really disruptive at night. We'd get 1117 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 1: real animals in the floorboards, in the walls. There was 1118 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 1: lots of noises outside I often because of where we were, 1119 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 1: and there were certain things about it that I was 1120 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 1: worried that what if someone broke in, and you know, 1121 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,359 Speaker 1: there were these other anxieties that I had around it. 1122 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: And it was the first time in my life that 1123 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: I think I consecuted had one and a half years 1124 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: of bad sleep during the pandemic. And it was really 1125 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: interesting because I was doing my supplements, I was eating right, 1126 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 1: I've always meditated, I was doing everything, and just this 1127 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 1: one undercurrent meant I was fatigued, I was exhausted, I 1128 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,280 Speaker 1: was irritable, like it was. So it was so intense 1129 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 1: because I just wasn't sleeping deeply and I'd often wake 1130 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 1: up multiple times per night and that wasn't normal for me. 1131 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 1: And I also was running the ORB ring at that time, 1132 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,240 Speaker 1: and it was my sleep score was just not great. 1133 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: And that was actually what forced me to move to 1134 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 1: this place and get this home because I was just 1135 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 1: like I was, I was saying, rather, I was like, 1136 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 1: I need to leave, like it was that bad. And 1137 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 1: so I know what it feels like to have good 1138 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 1: sleep and bad sleep. And I think that sleep is 1139 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,720 Speaker 1: one of those areas of our health that we underestimate 1140 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: in terms of how great it can be. But I 1141 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 1: think so many of us struggle would sleep, whether it 1142 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 1: be anxiety, whether it be insomnia, whether it be stress. 1143 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: And so I want to start off by talking about 1144 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: tracking your sleep and improving the environment that we sleep in, 1145 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 1: at least as a starting point. But I do want 1146 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,399 Speaker 1: to get to two and three with you today on 1147 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 1: your list, because I do think there are people who 1148 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,959 Speaker 1: are trying to do all that stuff, but there's still 1149 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 1: something not clicking. And I'm sure you've experienced this a 1150 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 1: million times in clients. So let's start I step one 1151 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 1: and then see where we go from there. 1152 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,360 Speaker 2: Right, So, I agree with you like tracking is a 1153 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,839 Speaker 2: game changer. But I can also tell you that I've 1154 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 2: had a lot of patients that get super anxious tracking 1155 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 2: and they live and die by those numbers. Right, So, 1156 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 2: if you're one of those people that the over tracking 1157 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 2: of sleep kind of changes your day and changes your 1158 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,879 Speaker 2: perspective on your day, only use tracking for a very 1159 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 2: specified amount of time. Use it for when you are 1160 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 2: very mindfully changing your sleep habits and your routines, and 1161 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 2: then stop worring it once you got your sleep score 1162 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 2: up to a score that you like. Right. I personally, 1163 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 2: I like tracking my sleep all the time. I'm just 1164 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 2: a real data guy. So I like to see it. 1165 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,919 Speaker 2: But when I go on the now, I don't wear 1166 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 2: my aura ring because I know that sometimes right, So 1167 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 2: so you know I use it. I use it for 1168 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,240 Speaker 2: when I'm being mindful about trying to get better sleep 1169 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 2: or if something's changed. Like I notice, I had COVID, 1170 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,520 Speaker 2: and right after COVID, I had long COVID and my 1171 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,240 Speaker 2: heart rate was racing for months. Yeah, it was horrible 1172 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 2: and it really affected my sleep. But my Aura ring 1173 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 2: told me that this is what's happening. This is why 1174 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 2: you're not sleeping while your heart rate is racing. So 1175 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 2: I think the benefit of sleep tracking is really understanding 1176 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 2: it's not just the number of hours you're sleeping, it's 1177 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 2: really the sleep pattern and educating yourself on that sleep pattern. 1178 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,319 Speaker 2: Aura does a good job, Wroop does a good job. 1179 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 2: The eight Sleep pattress has a phenomenal tracker. It's great. 1180 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,399 Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, and you know, understanding how much 1181 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 2: deep sleep you need, where that deep sleep needs to 1182 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 2: be in your sleep night, and understanding things like heart 1183 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 2: rate variability and I average heart rate at night is 1184 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 2: a game changer. Right while you're modifying your sleep environment 1185 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 2: and your routine. So once we get that in place, 1186 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 2: then the second thing we do is we absolutely make 1187 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 2: sure the person doesn't have sleep apnia. All right, So, 1188 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:13,880 Speaker 2: for those of you who don't know sleep apenias, that's 1189 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 2: when you stop breathing at night. Your body physically stops 1190 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 2: taking in oxygen. You don't have oxygen in your body 1191 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 2: for for a few seconds at a time, but all 1192 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 2: night long. That affects your brain, your heart, virtually every 1193 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 2: organ in your body. So many people have sleep apnia 1194 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 2: and don't recognize it, and it's really sad because it's 1195 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,919 Speaker 2: causing Basically I tell them it's causing a slow death. 1196 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 2: Believe it or not. If you have sleep apnia, you 1197 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 2: have to get it treated right away. There's lots of 1198 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 2: different ways of treating it. There's dental appliances, there's you 1199 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 2: know that seapap mask you can wear this surgery, but 1200 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 2: you got to figure it out because no matter what. 1201 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 1: You doing to that, people could notice. 1202 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 2: Right. So, the symptoms of sleep apnia are number one, 1203 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 2: you wake up gasping for air in the middle of 1204 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 2: the night, or your significant other you're sleeping with tells 1205 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 2: you that. Secondly, you wake up really tired every morning 1206 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 2: and you have daytime somulance, you're just kind of falling 1207 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 2: asleep a few hours after you've woken up. Even snoring 1208 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 2: very loudly can indicate sleep apnea as well. So if 1209 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 2: you know your spouse, whoever tells you're snoring really a lot. 1210 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 2: And then there's a questionnaire you can take online. It's 1211 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 2: a very simple questionnaire called the stop Bang Questionnaire. Stop 1212 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 2: B A n J. Just google that and you take 1213 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 2: the questionnaire, will give you a score and I'll tell 1214 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 2: you if you need to be evaluated for sleep apnea. 1215 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 2: So being evaluated for sleep apnia now is much easier. 1216 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 2: People used to dread going to a sleep lab and 1217 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 2: getting all the wires put on them. Now you just 1218 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 2: wear like a little device on your finger overnight at 1219 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 2: home and we can get a good idea if you 1220 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 2: have sleep apney or not. 1221 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 1: Wow. 1222 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,760 Speaker 2: And the sleep doctors are very good at treating this 1223 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 2: now as well. 1224 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 1: Wow. And you're saying there's different types of therapy, there's 1225 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 1: different types of treatments for sleep treatments. 1226 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's there's stuff you can get from your dentists, 1227 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 2: like a little dental appliance that pulls your jaw forward 1228 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 2: there's a pap mask. There's also surgeries that you can 1229 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 2: do as well, losing weight, special pillows, propping your bell, 1230 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 2: there's lots of things you can do. 1231 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, yeah, I can't believe that. It's so fascinating. 1232 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: Right again, because these things haven't been measured since we 1233 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 1: were young, and because we don't know what to look 1234 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 1: out for, you could be sitting there for months or 1235 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 1: years going why do I wake up feeling like this? 1236 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm anxious, maybe I'm stressed, and that could be 1237 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 1: a part of it, but there's something else going on 1238 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 1: as well. 1239 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I can tell you how many people that I 1240 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 2: simply asked a few questions. I just asked you, and 1241 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,360 Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, I have that, Yeah, I have that. 1242 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,840 Speaker 2: It's like a revelation. And they're fifty five years old 1243 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 2: and they have sleep apnia. They've had it for twenty 1244 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 2: five years. So it's really sad how underdiagnosed it is 1245 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,120 Speaker 2: and how incredibly treatable it is. And I could change 1246 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 2: the trajectory of your life, you know, because once you 1247 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 2: treat sleep apnea, your metabolism actually gets under control and 1248 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 2: you start losing weight, you start having less glucose spikes, 1249 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:59,280 Speaker 2: you start eating better, you feel less brain fog, and 1250 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 2: then you you also prevent sleep happening as one of 1251 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 2: the main risk factors for Alzheimer's disease, so you prevent Alzheimer's. 1252 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 2: Do so once again is knowing early and treating things early. 1253 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 1: What if someone's they're okay just about getting to sleep, 1254 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 1: but that they wake up multiple times when they're sleeping. 1255 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 1: What have you found to be useful for someone in 1256 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,160 Speaker 1: that scenario if you treat it, work with anyone who 1257 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 1: has that. I've just met so many more people these 1258 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 1: days that not telling me they can't sleep. They saying 1259 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 1: I can sleep, but then I'm waking up and then 1260 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 1: waking up. And these aren't people with kids or anything. 1261 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 1: So this is like a you know, it's just how 1262 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 1: they're feeling. 1263 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 2: Three main reasons for it I normally see. One is 1264 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 2: not turia, where they have to get up in the modent, 1265 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 2: like to go to the bathroom, and so there's medications 1266 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 2: and exercises you can do to treat that. The second 1267 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 2: reason is going to bed with anxiety and stresses on 1268 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 2: your mind. So what they tell people to do is 1269 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:53,120 Speaker 2: number one, no electronics and maybe even no TV before 1270 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,240 Speaker 2: going to bed because that can keep you thinking. But 1271 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,640 Speaker 2: keep a notebook by the side of your bed. If 1272 01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 2: you're one of these busy people that you have so 1273 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 2: many going through your head, write them all down and 1274 01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 2: then you'll at least download that into a piece of 1275 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 2: paper and hopefully get it out of your head. But 1276 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,360 Speaker 2: the third thing that I find that really does this 1277 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 2: too is eating or drinking a little bit too close 1278 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 2: to your sleep. You have this kind of glucose surge 1279 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 2: that happens after you get to bed and it just 1280 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 2: wakes you up. So really making sure there's three to 1281 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 2: four hours between your last meal and going to bed, 1282 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 2: it's key. 1283 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm so glad you brought up the devices 1284 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,720 Speaker 1: and conversation because I was talking to a lot of 1285 01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,840 Speaker 1: people when people have been saying to me gm experiencing anxiety. 1286 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 1: One question that I often ask people is what did 1287 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 1: you watch last night? And there are some people in 1288 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,760 Speaker 1: the world who can watch the craziest, scariest, eeriest things 1289 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,520 Speaker 1: and not feel anything. And there are people who watch 1290 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 1: those things and it puts these cliffhanger chemicals, as I 1291 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 1: like to crut them, into your body, which constantly puts 1292 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,479 Speaker 1: you on that cliffhanger, which keeps you up, that makes 1293 01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 1: you wake up with this state of fright. I was 1294 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,479 Speaker 1: just we went to watch Oppenheimer a couple of weeks ago, 1295 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 1: and we're watching the trailers and the Exorcist trailer came up. 1296 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 1: There's another and Radi just sat there like this, if 1297 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 1: you're not if you're watching, sorry, if you're listening, then 1298 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm closing my eyes and my ears. And Radi literally 1299 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 1: sat there like that, and she was like, just tell 1300 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 1: me when it's done, because she doesn't want to watch it. 1301 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 1: And that trailer was far too long for a trailer. 1302 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 1: I felt like it told me the whole movie. So 1303 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 1: for Radi, she knows that she's aware of that, and 1304 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 1: so she won't watch and consume content like that. I 1305 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,919 Speaker 1: can watch it and laugh it off and be fine 1306 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 1: and it won't affect me. And there's I'm watching it 1307 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 1: every day, And I think it's so important that we 1308 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 1: check ourselves that way, because you're just making it harder 1309 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 1: for yourself in a way you don't need to. 1310 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 2: Right absolutely, I'm one of those people. I can't watch 1311 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 2: horror movies anymore. It just affects me way too. It 1312 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 2: just sticks to my head. I actually become a scaredy 1313 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,439 Speaker 2: cat at night. I can't sleep, so I just don't 1314 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 2: even entertain the thought of watching like even a trailer. 1315 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 2: I'd probably closed my eyes on the trailer. 1316 01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 1: That trailer was haunted. Do you know what, then you 1317 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,160 Speaker 1: excess trailer if you want to sleep at night, down 1318 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 1: like it's stating me for a while. But uh no, 1319 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 1: that's great. Anything else on sleep that you feel as 1320 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 1: that one, two, three is we're going in. 1321 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so number one is sleep apnea. Make sure you 1322 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,960 Speaker 2: don't have it as you're tracking your sleep. Two and 1323 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 2: three are fix your sleep environment and fix your sleep routine. 1324 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,120 Speaker 2: So your sleep environment needs to be like how our 1325 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 2: ancestors slept when they were cave men, a cold, dark 1326 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,919 Speaker 2: cave right, So turn the temperature down in your room 1327 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 2: was even better than turning it down in your room 1328 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 2: is buying like an eight sleep or something that keeps 1329 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 2: your bed cool itself. But it should be somewhere around 1330 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,280 Speaker 2: sixty five degrees dark, like totally dark, like even the 1331 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 2: little red lights and alarm clock. Cover them with black 1332 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 2: electrical tape and put them in a different room and 1333 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 2: then quiet. And most people can't get it fully quiet 1334 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 2: or some people like the quiet even becomes like it 1335 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 2: becomes noise to them. So a sound machine, like a 1336 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 2: white noise machine, is very very effective in improving your sleep. 1337 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,920 Speaker 2: And what's really cool about doing these things is you 1338 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,320 Speaker 2: can do like one thing and see how it affects 1339 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 2: your sleep score, and then a week later, buy a 1340 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 2: white noise machine and see what happens to you're a 1341 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,720 Speaker 2: sleep score Like you might not feel it physically the 1342 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,440 Speaker 2: next day, but your tracker will tell you like, you 1343 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 2: went up from eighty five to ninety five just by 1344 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 2: buying a white noise machine. And I've seen it happen 1345 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 2: over and over again. And so your sleep routine, what 1346 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 2: I like to tell people is your sleep routine actually 1347 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 2: starts the moment you wake up. And there's probably like 1348 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 2: only three percent of people that the moment they wake up, 1349 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,919 Speaker 2: they actually go outside to expose themselves the sun. Right. 1350 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,919 Speaker 2: Most people just they go from being inside to going 1351 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 2: in their garage, getting in their car, going to work, 1352 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 2: parking the garage, right, Like, no one goes outside anymore 1353 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,640 Speaker 2: in the morning. I make it a point to take 1354 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 2: me and my kids outside first thing in the morning. 1355 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 2: Expose yourself to sunlight that sets your circraitian rhythm, your 1356 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 2: melatone is gonna start secreting like it's fourteen hours afterwards. 1357 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,440 Speaker 2: That's key. Sleep routine starts first thing in the morning. 1358 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 2: And then you know how the iPhone now has like 1359 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,919 Speaker 2: a sleep alarm, right like, it's not an alarm clock 1360 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,439 Speaker 2: to wake you up as when you need to start 1361 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 2: preparing for sleep. So when that alarm goes off two 1362 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 2: hours before sleep, all the lights turn off as much 1363 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 2: as possible, switch on some you know, soft orange colored 1364 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 2: bulbs instead, and just start winding down your brain. You 1365 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,440 Speaker 2: know a big part of that is avoiding electronic devices absolutely. 1366 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, great advice, no great, great advice and all things 1367 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,480 Speaker 1: that I've been practicing. I used to I used to 1368 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,800 Speaker 1: worry about sleeping at sixty five degrees because I think 1369 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,000 Speaker 1: it would feel cold. And what I always remind people 1370 01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 1: is you still have your do it. You still have 1371 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,080 Speaker 1: your blanket over you, like you don't you don't have 1372 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 1: to be cold. You can still wear pajamas, right like, 1373 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 1: it's just cooler in the room. And that's been done. 1374 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,960 Speaker 1: Wonders for my sleep, even for sleeping in longer and 1375 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 1: being more comfortable. The cave like darkness has always been 1376 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 1: a big win for me and huge and I think 1377 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 1: that the we've always tried to have very early dinners 1378 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,680 Speaker 1: and that's been such a huge thing of like we 1379 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,600 Speaker 1: try to eat dinner at like six six thirty pm, 1380 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,120 Speaker 1: just so that when you and bed at nine thirty 1381 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,040 Speaker 1: that it's you know, easier to go to sleep. But right, 1382 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 1: all things we've had to work on over time and 1383 01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 1: adjust and figure out, and it's not always perfect, and 1384 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,920 Speaker 1: you know it's yeah. 1385 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 2: And part of like the eating dinner earlier thing too 1386 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 2: is our caveman ancestor didn't eat after it became dark, right, 1387 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,600 Speaker 2: And so it's really food is another item that sets 1388 01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 2: your circadian clock almost as much as light does as well, 1389 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 2: So that's that's a key factor eating earlier. But yeah, 1390 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 2: it's all little things and one at a time, and 1391 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,520 Speaker 2: you know, you're not going to change everything overnight. It 1392 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 2: might take a year, but it benefits you for the 1393 01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 2: next fifty. 1394 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. I want to dive into So there's 1395 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 1: a few areas left and I want to take bits 1396 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,200 Speaker 1: and pieces of all of them. I don't want to 1397 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 1: do all of them, but I want to dive into 1398 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,840 Speaker 1: gut health just because it's so I didn't realize for 1399 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 1: years I was having gut issues because I just didn't 1400 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,440 Speaker 1: know what they even meant. I didn't know how to know. 1401 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 1: I think today now people are much more informed. I'm 1402 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,000 Speaker 1: talking about like ten, thirteen, fifteen years ago, when I 1403 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 1: didn't feel it was in the site guys to the 1404 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 1: conversation as much. How can someone be conscious and aware 1405 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,000 Speaker 1: if they're not already that they may have leaky got 1406 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 1: that they may have got issues that they're not fully 1407 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,520 Speaker 1: conscious or aware of, or they're being negligent. I was 1408 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 1: one of those people who, even if there was some discomfort, 1409 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 1: I would just write it off because you're young, and 1410 01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,600 Speaker 1: you're fit, and you're healthy, and you don't care about 1411 01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,680 Speaker 1: it too much. What should people be looking out for? 1412 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's a really good point. And once again, 1413 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 2: you know, by the time you become symptomatic from some 1414 01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,440 Speaker 2: of this stuff, a lot of damage has already been 1415 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,520 Speaker 2: done for a long period of time. Right, And so 1416 01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 2: what I look at here is another one of those biomarkers, 1417 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,840 Speaker 2: one of those CEO of your own health type of things, 1418 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 2: which is a biomarker called hs CRP highly sensitive C 1419 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,920 Speaker 2: reactive protein. This is a marker of inflammation. It's a 1420 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,440 Speaker 2: very simple test that every doctor lab can do. We've 1421 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,000 Speaker 2: been doing it for like fifty sixty years in medicine. 1422 01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,840 Speaker 2: But it's a marker of inflammation. You want this number 1423 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,760 Speaker 2: as close as zero as possib, but a lot of 1424 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:02,479 Speaker 2: times it'll go up to one, two, three, or four. 1425 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,080 Speaker 2: And usually that comes from some sort of situation going 1426 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 2: on in your gut. So your gut is the biggest 1427 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,920 Speaker 2: organ in your body, protecting you from the outside environment. 1428 01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,400 Speaker 2: Most people think it's your skin, but your gut actually 1429 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,439 Speaker 2: has four or five times the surface area of your 1430 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 2: skin does, and so when that barrier to the outside 1431 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:25,240 Speaker 2: environment is disrupted, toxins from the outside environment filter into 1432 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 2: your bloodstream, causing inflammation. Inflammation is when your immune system 1433 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,720 Speaker 2: is overactive and you not only destroy the toxins, but 1434 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,400 Speaker 2: you start destroying your normal brain, heart, muscle, bone cells, 1435 01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,280 Speaker 2: all of it. So you need to know when you 1436 01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,519 Speaker 2: have inflammation going on in your body. The first way 1437 01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,519 Speaker 2: to tell is by this blood test, and then probably 1438 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 2: after that blood test has been elevated for months and years, 1439 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,720 Speaker 2: is you finally start feeling it in your gut. So 1440 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,960 Speaker 2: if you get this measured and you have this a 1441 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,960 Speaker 2: little bit too high. Then you start need to looking 1442 01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 2: at your gut as a primary source. Secondary source would 1443 01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,719 Speaker 2: be your oral health. Believe it or not, like yeah. 1444 01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, good for it. 1445 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a huge association between poor oral health, dementia, 1446 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,559 Speaker 2: and heart attacks as well. And that's because a lot 1447 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,720 Speaker 2: of inflammation takes place in your mouth, if you have cavities, 1448 01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,680 Speaker 2: if you have gingivitis, et cetera. So you know, if 1449 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,280 Speaker 2: your inflammation levels are high, you need to go see 1450 01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,600 Speaker 2: the dentists, make sure your oral health is okay. But 1451 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 2: then you need to start treating your gut. Here's where 1452 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,360 Speaker 2: a functional medicine doctor can be extremely helpful because they 1453 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 2: can really sort through, like what is going on with 1454 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,840 Speaker 2: your gut? Do you have leaky gut? Why do you 1455 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,840 Speaker 2: have leaky gut? You know, ten percent of the population 1456 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,679 Speaker 2: as gluten sensitivities, seven percent is dairy sensitive, or probably 1457 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,919 Speaker 2: even more. These are just you know, these are just estimates. 1458 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:48,800 Speaker 2: And once you start eliminating those inflammatory foods, the toxins 1459 01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,120 Speaker 2: in your food from your diet, your gut starts to 1460 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:52,679 Speaker 2: heal and we can put you on a gut healing 1461 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:56,960 Speaker 2: protocol reduces inflammation, and inflammation is the root cause of 1462 01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,439 Speaker 2: all the major diseases. Once you treat inflammation, your chance 1463 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,200 Speaker 2: of getting all the other diseases are much less, right, 1464 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,160 Speaker 2: So you've got to focus on your gut. And so 1465 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 2: this is where you know, I tell my patients like, look, 1466 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,760 Speaker 2: it's not just about sleep, exercise, and diet, and now 1467 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,720 Speaker 2: we need to start talking about gut health. Like, that's 1468 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,320 Speaker 2: another thing that we need to talk about. And so 1469 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 2: hscorp is the biomarker for that, measure that and then 1470 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:24,320 Speaker 2: of course if you're having symptoms bloating, diarrhea, constipation, definitely 1471 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 2: need to go get that checked out. 1472 01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it can be so easy to just kind of 1473 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,439 Speaker 1: feel embarrassed about it or be negligent of it, or 1474 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 1: to just kind of brush it off to the side. 1475 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,200 Speaker 2: But again, tell you the number of like men and 1476 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 2: women that I see that are like don't want to 1477 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,720 Speaker 2: talk about it because they're just like doctor, you know, 1478 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,000 Speaker 2: like I have a lot of gas. Yeah, they're so 1479 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 2: embarrassed about it. But it's like less double click on that. 1480 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:47,639 Speaker 2: We need to figure that out, right. 1481 01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,200 Speaker 1: It's just it's just it's almost like it's it's weird 1482 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,840 Speaker 1: what we've been taught to like be ashamed of in 1483 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:58,680 Speaker 1: society when these are like really normal, natural things that 1484 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 1: we only need to be massively aware. It's interesting how 1485 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 1: the most important things in society become the most taboo 1486 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,519 Speaker 1: to talk about. You know, we're talking about health right now. 1487 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,960 Speaker 1: Money is another one in a different way. Or like 1488 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,880 Speaker 1: even like relationship challenges or things that are vulnerable have 1489 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 1: become this thing of like don't talk about it. It's 1490 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,519 Speaker 1: it's weird, sad, right, Yeah, it's really sad. Yeah, it's 1491 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:19,040 Speaker 1: really sad. 1492 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,800 Speaker 2: Like so well hopefully, I mean stuff like this podcast, 1493 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 2: you bring it to light, people start talking about it, 1494 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,919 Speaker 2: and bringing you more to mainstream conversation is so important. 1495 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what's needed. I mean, I know, 1496 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,960 Speaker 1: for a long time, like I didn't know who to 1497 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,439 Speaker 1: talk to about things because you just don't hear it, right. 1498 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 1: And I think when people are talking to their doctors, 1499 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 1: also having physicians who we feel understand this language. And 1500 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,400 Speaker 1: that's why I think with you saying that we need 1501 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,760 Speaker 1: to become the CEO of our own health, I think 1502 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,280 Speaker 1: we've always wanted to outsource it to a doctor or 1503 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 1: to a healthcare professional, whatever it may be. And the 1504 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,360 Speaker 1: truth is, no one's going to care about it as 1505 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,840 Speaker 1: much as you, absolutely, and so it has to start there. 1506 01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,160 Speaker 1: So this I want to focus on this one because 1507 01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 1: it's so interesting. So you obviously talk about how health 1508 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:05,880 Speaker 1: is one part of your wellness wheel, and it fascinates 1509 01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,280 Speaker 1: me because even when I've seen it on your wellness 1510 01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 1: wheel a million times when I've been in and when 1511 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,960 Speaker 1: we know how important the heart is, we rarely talk 1512 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,600 Speaker 1: about heart health, and if we do, we kind of 1513 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,240 Speaker 1: do it in a soft way. We don't really talk 1514 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,800 Speaker 1: about it from a scientific point of view. And you 1515 01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:27,000 Speaker 1: talk about how important it is to know our levels 1516 01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:31,120 Speaker 1: at twenty five years old. Is the APO B yep, 1517 01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,720 Speaker 1: it will be right, yeah, So walk us through that 1518 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,599 Speaker 1: and understanding what that is, what it means and how 1519 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:37,960 Speaker 1: do we know right exactly? 1520 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,040 Speaker 2: So I think everyone's heard about like watching your cholesterol levels, 1521 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,400 Speaker 2: right okay, So right now, what happens is you get 1522 01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:47,479 Speaker 2: your cholesterol levels measured, sometimes in your thirties, if you're lucky, 1523 01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,080 Speaker 2: usually docked away to your forty and unless it's like 1524 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,439 Speaker 2: over a really high number, no one's really going to 1525 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,920 Speaker 2: do anything about it. And then people will start talking 1526 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,479 Speaker 2: to you about your diet and managing your extra size. 1527 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,479 Speaker 2: You know, exercise more, eat better, eat less fat, eat 1528 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,320 Speaker 2: less cholesterol. Then you just kind of let it go 1529 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,880 Speaker 2: until all of a sudden it's an emergency for you 1530 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 2: to get on a statin. And I think it's kind 1531 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,960 Speaker 2: of ten, fifteen, twenty years too late at that point 1532 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 2: in time, right, the damage has already been done. If 1533 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,760 Speaker 2: you do cardiac testing, you'll see that there's already blockages 1534 01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,800 Speaker 2: and blood vessels at that point in time. And most 1535 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,760 Speaker 2: of the time these are not diagnosed until people have 1536 01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,160 Speaker 2: their first heart attack. No one even looks at the 1537 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:33,800 Speaker 2: blood vessels until you've had a heart attack. And it's 1538 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,439 Speaker 2: really sad the way this whole thing goes. And it's 1539 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 2: especially sad because heart attacks and strokes could become like 1540 01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,640 Speaker 2: an orphan disease, like a disease that never affects us 1541 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,800 Speaker 2: if we just do it right. And this is where 1542 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,240 Speaker 2: I think medicine has made like a tremendous incredible amount 1543 01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:53,120 Speaker 2: of knowledge has been gained. And this is where I 1544 01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,160 Speaker 2: try to really encourage my patients to really partner with 1545 01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 2: their medical doctors and really get this treated. So when 1546 01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:02,000 Speaker 2: I say no your APO B level, I love APO B. 1547 01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,759 Speaker 2: It's a new type of cholesterol measurement kind of lumps 1548 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,680 Speaker 2: together all the bad forms of cholesterol, which I even 1549 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,360 Speaker 2: hate saying bad cholesterol, but it lumps that together the 1550 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,360 Speaker 2: dangerous forms. And knowing what your apo B level is 1551 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,800 Speaker 2: when you're twenty twenty five, that's kind of the baseline 1552 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:19,640 Speaker 2: where you want it to be right. So as this 1553 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,320 Speaker 2: starts creeping up, you want to start doing things about 1554 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,880 Speaker 2: it with your exercise, diet, sleep, gut health, all of 1555 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 2: that matters. But then when it gets to a certain 1556 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,880 Speaker 2: level that's a little bit too high, that's when you 1557 01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,800 Speaker 2: want to start doing cardiac testing and diagnosis. So this 1558 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,960 Speaker 2: really great test that can be done now cat scans 1559 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:40,080 Speaker 2: of your heart that can tell you twenty thirty years 1560 01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:41,960 Speaker 2: ahead of time before you have a heart attack if 1561 01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,680 Speaker 2: you have a blockage, and we have great therapeutics now 1562 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 2: to turn back the time on these blockages to get 1563 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,720 Speaker 2: rid of these blockages to prevent you from having a 1564 01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,559 Speaker 2: heart attack. I can't tell you the number of patients 1565 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,360 Speaker 2: that we've had in our clinics that we've done this 1566 01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,600 Speaker 2: scan on preventatively, and how many of them at you 1567 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,200 Speaker 2: had to go straight to the emergency room to get 1568 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,439 Speaker 2: a blood vessel opened up, you know, double clicking on 1569 01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,160 Speaker 2: this just because I think it's really important for your 1570 01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,200 Speaker 2: audience to know APO B. And there's another one everyone 1571 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 2: needs to get measured when they're young is LP little 1572 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,360 Speaker 2: A or even young or old if you've never had 1573 01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,040 Speaker 2: it done, got to measure LP little A. LP little 1574 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,720 Speaker 2: A is a genetic form of cholesterol that can't be 1575 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 2: treated with diet, nutrition and exercise or cholesterol lowering medication 1576 01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,879 Speaker 2: traditional ones. And if you're one of the few percentage 1577 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,440 Speaker 2: of people that have it, you'll still get massive blockages 1578 01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,120 Speaker 2: in your arteries at a very young age. So most 1579 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,160 Speaker 2: people don't check that until it's too late as well, 1580 01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,760 Speaker 2: and we can treat that now as well. So LP 1581 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,320 Speaker 2: little A and APO B two tests everyone need to 1582 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:43,240 Speaker 2: ask their doctor about. 1583 01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,400 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. I'm so glad you're like giving us a 1584 01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,439 Speaker 1: vocabulary of knowing what to check because I think otherwise, 1585 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, I know, I just go up to my 1586 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 1: doctor and be like, well, how how healthy is my 1587 01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,160 Speaker 1: het and they're going to be like you're fine, like 1588 01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,599 Speaker 1: you know, and it's and I think that's the challenge. 1589 01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,800 Speaker 1: We don't really have a vocabulary. Well, we don't know 1590 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,360 Speaker 1: the exact tests and checks that need to happen. And again, 1591 01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,360 Speaker 1: I think you've given us so many across the board, 1592 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,880 Speaker 1: and I just hope everyone who's listening to watching, like, please, 1593 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,600 Speaker 1: please please go and check these things out, because I 1594 01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,880 Speaker 1: just want you to live a healthier, longer, happier life. 1595 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,040 Speaker 1: And you know, so much of this could either make 1596 01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:19,080 Speaker 1: it easier or hard. 1597 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,240 Speaker 2: Right absolutely. And I think you know there's different types 1598 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,680 Speaker 2: of people. Some people like you, like you want to know, 1599 01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 2: and you want to know as soon as possible because 1600 01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,439 Speaker 2: you want to make sure you get it treated or 1601 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,720 Speaker 2: take care of it before it becomes a big problem. 1602 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:32,720 Speaker 2: And so those are the type of people I think will 1603 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,559 Speaker 2: take this information and really run with it. Then there's 1604 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,080 Speaker 2: another type of people that will take this information bring 1605 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:41,240 Speaker 2: their notes to their doctor. Some of the doctor will 1606 01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,000 Speaker 2: say okay, let's check it. Someone will be like, no, 1607 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:44,479 Speaker 2: you don't need to do that, and they'll be like, okay, 1608 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,640 Speaker 2: I'll just leave it, which you know, it's fine. But 1609 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,439 Speaker 2: I really encourage people to become the CEO of their 1610 01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:53,160 Speaker 2: own health, become more aggressive and proactive and learning and 1611 01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,800 Speaker 2: tracking these things and pushing your doctor on some of 1612 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,720 Speaker 2: this stuff. And then you have a group of people 1613 01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,320 Speaker 2: that just like they want their head and they're saying, like, 1614 01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to until it's a problem. Tell me then, 1615 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 2: which there's not much you can do about that except 1616 01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:06,439 Speaker 2: you know, take care of them. 1617 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, absolutely. We've talked about brain health before on 1618 01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,160 Speaker 1: the show, but I wanted to talk about cancer. 1619 01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:12,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1620 01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,439 Speaker 1: And the reason why I want to touch on that, 1621 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,240 Speaker 1: obviously is because I think the rates are just going 1622 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 1: up and up and up. I've lost two people in 1623 01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,559 Speaker 1: the last four years, three people in my entire life, 1624 01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,800 Speaker 1: people that I'm like very close to. This does not 1625 01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,439 Speaker 1: include your aunt and your mum's friend, like you know, 1626 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,759 Speaker 1: like not even just like looking around the whole space, 1627 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,000 Speaker 1: but like people that I'm directly close to, and all 1628 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,120 Speaker 1: from different causes, all from different reasons. It's something that 1629 01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:40,120 Speaker 1: I think, you know that we will have a fear 1630 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 1: around because you just hear it so often and everyone's 1631 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,759 Speaker 1: going through something. Like you talk about cancer's biggest enemy 1632 01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,679 Speaker 1: is being diagnosed at stage one, but that whenever I've 1633 01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,479 Speaker 1: had friends or people I love, we always find out 1634 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,599 Speaker 1: it stays three or four. So how do we get that? 1635 01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 2: What do you mean to do? So? Cancer diagnostics literally 1636 01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:05,639 Speaker 2: in the last five years has become incredibly revolutionized. And 1637 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,680 Speaker 2: there's two tests that have done this. One is a 1638 01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,919 Speaker 2: test called the full body MRI, like the Pernuvos scan. 1639 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,640 Speaker 1: Which is what we did when I think right exactly. 1640 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:18,080 Speaker 2: Yep, you did the full body MRI, and that happened 1641 01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,519 Speaker 2: because we've always had MRI scanners, but now MRIs are 1642 01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,839 Speaker 2: becoming more ubiquitous and cheaper. These are no radiation scans 1643 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,080 Speaker 2: of your entire body, and they're getting quicker too, so 1644 01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,280 Speaker 2: we can do the whole body in like under an hour. 1645 01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 2: I always says Steve Jobs that one of these you'd 1646 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,080 Speaker 2: still be alive today, you know. So it's a scan 1647 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,920 Speaker 2: that scans your whole body for not just tumors, but 1648 01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:39,800 Speaker 2: also other anatomical abnormalities that can kill you, like aneurysm's 1649 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,639 Speaker 2: in your brain or your aorda. So I think that's 1650 01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,360 Speaker 2: a very useful test is controversial because you do find 1651 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,440 Speaker 2: a lot of us called incidental omas. These are incidentals 1652 01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,160 Speaker 2: that you end up chasing down a rabbit hole as 1653 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,800 Speaker 2: far as what is that thing over there? But if 1654 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,679 Speaker 2: you can tolerate a little bit of you know, having 1655 01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,559 Speaker 2: diagnostics done and a little bit of stress while you 1656 01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,120 Speaker 2: figure out what those things are. You'll know a lot 1657 01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,360 Speaker 2: more about your body in enough time to take care 1658 01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:09,120 Speaker 2: of an issue. So that's one technology. The second technology, 1659 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,320 Speaker 2: which is truly revolutionary is the liquid biopsy. This is 1660 01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:15,880 Speaker 2: the Grail, the Gallery Grail test, and this is a 1661 01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,599 Speaker 2: blood test that you can do and you just send 1662 01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:22,000 Speaker 2: in a vile of blood. They check it for little 1663 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:25,599 Speaker 2: fragments of DNA from active tumors in your body. Okay, 1664 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:30,200 Speaker 2: and so it can diagnose fifty of the most hard 1665 01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:34,680 Speaker 2: to diagnose tumors at very early stages. And right now, 1666 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,640 Speaker 2: unfortunately this test is expensive and not covered by insurance. 1667 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,519 Speaker 2: My feeling is as a technology evolves, it'll become cheaper 1668 01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:45,160 Speaker 2: and cheaper of course, and it'll become the new standard 1669 01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,720 Speaker 2: in medicine is to check everyone for this once a year. 1670 01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,920 Speaker 2: Because the reason cancer is so hard to treat is 1671 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:53,880 Speaker 2: because of being diagnosed as Shays three or four, when 1672 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:57,200 Speaker 2: it's sometimes metastatic, right, and then it's almost you have 1673 01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:01,080 Speaker 2: to go chemo radiation surgery. It's so hard. But once 1674 01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,439 Speaker 2: you diagnose it a stage one, it's like it's not 1675 01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,519 Speaker 2: even had a chance to get there, right. So this 1676 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,080 Speaker 2: blood test, if you can afford it, right, now you know, 1677 01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,320 Speaker 2: once a year, I would start doing it for if 1678 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,439 Speaker 2: you can't, it's going to get cheaper. Keep your eye 1679 01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:15,360 Speaker 2: out on it. I think it get cheaper really quickly 1680 01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,000 Speaker 2: as a lot of technology is becoming right now, it's 1681 01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:21,120 Speaker 2: going to revolutionize the way we diagnose cancer. And then 1682 01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,800 Speaker 2: everyone in addition to those, you can't just do those. 1683 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,400 Speaker 2: Each of those detects its own things, right, You've got 1684 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,519 Speaker 2: to get your klonoscopy, do it early, especially if you 1685 01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:34,759 Speaker 2: have a family history of colon cancer too. Yep, exactly, Yeah, 1686 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:35,639 Speaker 2: very important. 1687 01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:36,840 Speaker 1: I was scared for like a week. 1688 01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is scary, but the nice colonoscopy is not 1689 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:42,920 Speaker 2: just diagnosing cancer. Like if you go in there and 1690 01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,160 Speaker 2: you see a pre cancer, you can remove it immediately, 1691 01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 2: so it's like treatment as well. Right. And then for men, 1692 01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:50,960 Speaker 2: get the PSA test, which is a blood test for 1693 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,240 Speaker 2: your prostate. For women, make sure you get your mammograms 1694 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:57,200 Speaker 2: and make sure you get your obgian exams. That's kind 1695 01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:01,200 Speaker 2: of like the array of preventative diagnos gnostics you want 1696 01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:05,400 Speaker 2: to do now in the twenty first century to you know, basically, 1697 01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,160 Speaker 2: diagnose cancer before before it kills you, you know, as 1698 01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:09,560 Speaker 2: soon as possible. 1699 01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,559 Speaker 1: And how do we can sipproof all buddy. 1700 01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,760 Speaker 2: Cancer proofing is done by doing all of the other 1701 01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,840 Speaker 2: things that we talked about today, getting seven eight hours 1702 01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,599 Speaker 2: of sleep, making sure that your nutrition is comes mostly 1703 01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,920 Speaker 2: from whole foods, not processed foods, and exercising and not 1704 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,680 Speaker 2: being sedentary. The other thing is eliminating toxins from your 1705 01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,280 Speaker 2: day to day life. And so we can talk about 1706 01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,400 Speaker 2: that a little bit if you like. How to eliminate toxins. 1707 01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,519 Speaker 2: So the PREADA principle on that is realize where do 1708 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,479 Speaker 2: you spend the most time. Right, you spend the most time, 1709 01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,200 Speaker 2: probably at work and sleep in your bed at night. 1710 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,680 Speaker 2: That environment, the air in that environment, You want that 1711 01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,000 Speaker 2: to be as clean as possible. So you want to 1712 01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:51,479 Speaker 2: detoxify your air, your water, your food, and chemicals on 1713 01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,920 Speaker 2: your skin, so air buy an air purifier for each 1714 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,280 Speaker 2: one of those environments. If the air is not perfectly clean. 1715 01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,880 Speaker 2: For your water, I recommend getting an undersync reverse osmosis 1716 01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,000 Speaker 2: system in your kitchen where you drink get most of 1717 01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,280 Speaker 2: your drinking water, drink it out of glass bottles for 1718 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,320 Speaker 2: the most part, and for your food organic or go 1719 01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,559 Speaker 2: to that website called ewg dot org and Finally, for 1720 01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,760 Speaker 2: the cosmetics that you use and the stuff you put 1721 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,040 Speaker 2: on your body, there's a great app called Think Dirty, 1722 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:23,439 Speaker 2: and you can put any product in there, scan the barcode. 1723 01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,360 Speaker 2: It'll tell you the level of toxin and recommend to 1724 01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,160 Speaker 2: you the most non toxic products. You do that you've 1725 01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,840 Speaker 2: covered eighty percent of the landscape, like you're you're living 1726 01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,160 Speaker 2: in a mostly non toxic environment. I'm sure there's people 1727 01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,120 Speaker 2: that have other things that they do, but that to 1728 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:38,400 Speaker 2: me are the keys. 1729 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, my wife is my thing that Yeah, like she 1730 01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,120 Speaker 1: can figure out. She's like she's checked every product, she 1731 01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,960 Speaker 1: got us to switch to glass bottled water, she put 1732 01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:51,840 Speaker 1: the reverse system in, Like she's just so untop of 1733 01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:53,559 Speaker 1: all this stuff. And I'm like, if I didn't have 1734 01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:55,519 Speaker 1: her in my life, I don't know what I'd be 1735 01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:59,360 Speaker 1: doing right now. And it's incredible how these and also 1736 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,200 Speaker 1: you know when someone recommends these things, And when my 1737 01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,559 Speaker 1: wife first came up with this reversals most as water thing, 1738 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,280 Speaker 1: I was like, come on, like do we really need it? 1739 01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,320 Speaker 1: Like you know, And it's interesting how we have such 1740 01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:12,080 Speaker 1: random resistance to a lot of these things. We kind 1741 01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,960 Speaker 1: of overthink it or we underthink it where we just go, oh, well, 1742 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:16,560 Speaker 1: that can't be that such a big deal. Like I 1743 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,519 Speaker 1: think the whole bottled water thing is now blown up. 1744 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,080 Speaker 1: When my wife was talking to me about it like 1745 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,080 Speaker 1: four or five years ago, and at the time it 1746 01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,320 Speaker 1: was like I could have been a bit like, oh, no, 1747 01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, it's just a plastic water bottle. And 1748 01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,559 Speaker 1: now you see the research, right, And so I think 1749 01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:33,600 Speaker 1: it's so interesting, how like if you have someone in 1750 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,920 Speaker 1: your life, your friends, your family who are recommending things 1751 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,360 Speaker 1: to you, be open minded about it. You have no 1752 01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,320 Speaker 1: idea when it's finally going to be proven. And I'm 1753 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:45,320 Speaker 1: hoping that anyone who's listened to this episode, please please 1754 01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,519 Speaker 1: please share this episode with friends and family members, because 1755 01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,280 Speaker 1: I think what doctor Shah's done beautifully today is he's 1756 01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,400 Speaker 1: laid out step one, step two, and step three. And 1757 01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,479 Speaker 1: so whether you're someone who's just getting started in your 1758 01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,760 Speaker 1: journey or whether you're someone who's trying to refine it 1759 01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,799 Speaker 1: and improve it and enhance it in a deep way, 1760 01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:02,920 Speaker 1: you know you've kind of given the pathway. 1761 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,400 Speaker 2: For all of those Well, thank you, And you know 1762 01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:06,960 Speaker 2: you're right. It's so easy to be skeptical, right, It's 1763 01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,160 Speaker 2: hard to be not skeptical and open minded and do 1764 01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:13,360 Speaker 2: your research and really dive in. But I mean, you 1765 01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,280 Speaker 2: do such a good job of, you know, trying to 1766 01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,040 Speaker 2: get people to break through that barrier of skepticism opening 1767 01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:21,240 Speaker 2: their mind to new possibilities that I think if people 1768 01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,439 Speaker 2: were to like just kind of even they pick up 1769 01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,120 Speaker 2: one thing and while you search it on their own, 1770 01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,080 Speaker 2: that you're going to make a positive change. Right. 1771 01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:29,760 Speaker 1: I agree, Doctor Show, You've been incredible to them. I mean, 1772 01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,479 Speaker 1: thank You've giving us such a wealth of insight. And 1773 01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,120 Speaker 1: like I said at the beginning, I want this to 1774 01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,479 Speaker 1: be the episode that you come back to to go 1775 01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:38,519 Speaker 1: If I'm looking at my gut health, what do I 1776 01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:40,280 Speaker 1: need to focus on? If I'm looking at my nutrients, 1777 01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:42,120 Speaker 1: what do I need to focus on? Please please please 1778 01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,880 Speaker 1: take a screenshot of this episode right now. I want 1779 01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,320 Speaker 1: you to make sure that you tag doctor Shah and 1780 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,120 Speaker 1: I on social media so that he can see what 1781 01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,479 Speaker 1: resonated with you, So that I can see what's that 1782 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,920 Speaker 1: one thing you're trying. What's that thing that is now 1783 01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,640 Speaker 1: your day one not your one day? What is the 1784 01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,360 Speaker 1: thing that you're putting into practice that it is going 1785 01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:02,280 Speaker 1: to shift how you feel, that is going to shift 1786 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:04,559 Speaker 1: how you live your life. What is the thing that 1787 01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,960 Speaker 1: you've been avoiding measuring that you're going to measure from 1788 01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,719 Speaker 1: now on to make sure that you can start taking 1789 01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:13,200 Speaker 1: the proactive steps in avoiding some of these challenges that 1790 01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:15,559 Speaker 1: you can, Doctor shaw, I want to ask you the 1791 01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,000 Speaker 1: final five of course, which we do with every guess, 1792 01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,280 Speaker 1: but I want to make sure that I ask where 1793 01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,639 Speaker 1: should people find you? Where should people follow you? Where 1794 01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:26,160 Speaker 1: can people connect with your work to continue to be educated? 1795 01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I've been doing this course for 1796 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,439 Speaker 2: my patients now for many years and a lot of 1797 01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:32,880 Speaker 2: them want their family and friends to do this, but 1798 01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,439 Speaker 2: they might be living in different countries. So I recently 1799 01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,320 Speaker 2: started putting the entire course on my Instagram page and 1800 01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:42,519 Speaker 2: so at darshanshaw MD. If you go there like it's 1801 01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,519 Speaker 2: all kind of in order. We're going to start with nutrition, 1802 01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,280 Speaker 2: then move on to sleep and move on to exercise, 1803 01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,280 Speaker 2: et cetera. And over the course of the year we'll 1804 01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,360 Speaker 2: have all the content on there, but in a sequential fashion. 1805 01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:56,040 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. So Darsian Shaw MD on Instagram right is 1806 01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,400 Speaker 1: the place to go and follow. We're hoping you're nowtploaded 1807 01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,840 Speaker 1: to TikTok as well, So yes, yeah, yeah, we need 1808 01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,400 Speaker 1: we need dush and on TikTok. I love it, both 1809 01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,080 Speaker 1: of them. It would be amazing. Uh, Doctor Show. These 1810 01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,759 Speaker 1: are your final five. We asked these to every guest, 1811 01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:12,200 Speaker 1: sometimes a different mocktel of all of them, but we 1812 01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,839 Speaker 1: need one word to one sentence maximum for each question. 1813 01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:19,280 Speaker 1: So question number one, what is the best health advice 1814 01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:20,479 Speaker 1: you've ever received? 1815 01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:22,880 Speaker 2: Get up and start moving nice? All right? 1816 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,880 Speaker 1: Question number two, what is the worst health advice you've 1817 01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:26,760 Speaker 1: ever received? 1818 01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,840 Speaker 2: Let your doctor watch your blood markers? All right? 1819 01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:35,000 Speaker 1: Well, all right? Question number three, what is something you 1820 01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,760 Speaker 1: used to be skeptical about in terms of health and 1821 01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,720 Speaker 1: wellness techniques but now you swear by? 1822 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, this whole field of eliminating toxins from your day 1823 01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:45,760 Speaker 2: to day environment. I used to think it didn't matter, 1824 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,639 Speaker 2: but it matters so much again. 1825 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,639 Speaker 1: Yeah you think O air purifier like it's just yeah. 1826 01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,200 Speaker 2: What are they trying to sell me? But it does 1827 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:53,600 Speaker 2: make a huge difference. 1828 01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:57,800 Speaker 1: Right, Question number four, what is something that you used 1829 01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,680 Speaker 1: to swear by for your health and now you actually think? No, 1830 01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't need to focus on that anymore. 1831 01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,759 Speaker 2: Intimate and fasting. I know a lot of people will 1832 01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,439 Speaker 2: get upset at that answer, but I think there's a 1833 01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:10,799 Speaker 2: lot of science in the contrary. 1834 01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,599 Speaker 1: Now let's yeah, let's dive into that. Let's segue into 1835 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:14,320 Speaker 1: that for a second. 1836 01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, intimated fasting is great for people that need 1837 01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,759 Speaker 2: to start eating less calories on a day to day basis. 1838 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,360 Speaker 2: It's a good way to manage your caloric intake. But 1839 01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:26,320 Speaker 2: like I said earlier, a lot of people end up 1840 01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,800 Speaker 2: taking less protein and so they lose skeletal muscle mass. 1841 01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,519 Speaker 2: And that's what happened to me. I was intimated fasting. 1842 01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:34,719 Speaker 2: I started at my skeletal muscle mass and my scales 1843 01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,240 Speaker 2: started like plummeting, and I was what is happening? And 1844 01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,479 Speaker 2: it's all because of inmate and fasting, so I stopped it. 1845 01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,760 Speaker 2: So it's really more about what molecules you're putting into 1846 01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:46,120 Speaker 2: your body, I think, rather than the timing of it. 1847 01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:48,720 Speaker 2: And I think, you know, you really want to be 1848 01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,679 Speaker 2: careful if you are intimate and fasting that you're still 1849 01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,559 Speaker 2: getting your protein intake. And you are also not in 1850 01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,960 Speaker 2: the category of people that are either pregnant or breastfeeding 1851 01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,400 Speaker 2: or you know, an athlete. I think I've seen a 1852 01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,040 Speaker 2: lot of athletes actually cause a lot of damage to 1853 01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:04,679 Speaker 2: their metabolism and imin infesting. 1854 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,160 Speaker 1: That's I mean, I'm not an athlete, but I found 1855 01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:10,200 Speaker 1: that when I was experimenting with it. So I stopped 1856 01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,720 Speaker 1: eating dinner by like six thirty PM, and I don't 1857 01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,080 Speaker 1: eat until the next morning until nine am. So that's 1858 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,400 Speaker 1: the closest I get to it. But I'm someone who 1859 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,240 Speaker 1: needs to eat three meals a day and I don't 1860 01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:22,320 Speaker 1: snack a lot, and so for me, it's like those 1861 01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,320 Speaker 1: three meals are my main meals and I'm very happy 1862 01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,120 Speaker 1: with them, so breakfast, lunch, and dinner. So I eat 1863 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,080 Speaker 1: breakfast at nine, lunch at twelve to one, and then 1864 01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,160 Speaker 1: dinner at six, and it's like for me, that keeps 1865 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,200 Speaker 1: my energy steady. I'm not overeating or under eating at 1866 01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,080 Speaker 1: any point. Like it works for me, and so I've 1867 01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,080 Speaker 1: always I've always been interested in that as well, because 1868 01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:45,240 Speaker 1: I've always found myself feel healthier, happier, and stronger when 1869 01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm doing that. 1870 01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:47,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the key. You have to go by 1871 01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:51,120 Speaker 2: how you feel. And I think you said another key 1872 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,559 Speaker 2: where you don't have to snack during the day, like 1873 01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,960 Speaker 2: you're obviously eating coal foods and you're eating an adequate 1874 01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,800 Speaker 2: quantity where you're not having a snack, So that's another 1875 01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:00,519 Speaker 2: key as well. 1876 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right. Fifth and final question, doctor Shaw, 1877 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,040 Speaker 1: which is if you could create one law that everyone 1878 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,200 Speaker 1: in the world had to follow, what would it be? 1879 01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:14,120 Speaker 2: Get yourself a group of friends that you're so happy 1880 01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,639 Speaker 2: and proud to be around, that you share common interest 1881 01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,920 Speaker 2: in where you want your life to go, not just 1882 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:20,880 Speaker 2: where it's at right now. 1883 01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:24,439 Speaker 1: It's a great answer everyone. That's doctor Shaw on on purpose. 1884 01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,280 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening and watching. Again. I 1885 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:30,120 Speaker 1: hope that you take away and practices Doctor Shah kept 1886 01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,960 Speaker 1: saying just one thing from this episode and watch how 1887 01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 1: your life changes. Again, a big thank you. Follow doctor 1888 01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:40,320 Speaker 1: Shaw on Instagram at Darshan Shaw MD on Instagram and 1889 01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:43,160 Speaker 1: on TikTok soon to come make sure you do that. 1890 01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,280 Speaker 1: And I hope that you stay happy, stay healthy and 1891 01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,720 Speaker 1: stay well. Thank you again, Doc, Thank you so much. 1892 01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:50,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Jay, thank you. If you love 1893 01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:54,360 Speaker 1: this episode, you'll enjoy my interview with doctor Daniel Ahman 1894 01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,439 Speaker 1: on how to change your life by changing your brain. 1895 01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:02,320 Speaker 2: If we want a healthy ma mind, it actually starts 1896 01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:03,719 Speaker 2: with a healthy brain. 1897 01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:07,160 Speaker 1: You know, I've had the blessing or the curse to 1898 01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:12,280 Speaker 1: scan over a thousand convicted felons and over one hundred murderers, 1899 01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:14,599 Speaker 1: and their brains are very damaged.