1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Is the best of two pros and a couple of 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Joe with Lamar Airings rating Win and Jonas Knox on 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Box four Radio. 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: All Right, so let's get into the nuts and bolts 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: of some of the discussion from yesterday. Tony Pettiti is 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 2: the Big Ten commissioner. There's been this conversation about expansion 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: of the college Football Playoff for twenty twenty six. There's 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: the twelve team they had like a sixteen team. They've 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: got the SEC. I'm in the mix, ACC and Big 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: twelve seem to be paired up together. So Tony Petiti 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: yesterday spoke about everything that comes along with the discussion 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: surrounding the college Football Playoff. 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 3: Like the revenue share parameters, the Big Ten and SEC's 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: format control is set forth clearly in the agreement that 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: all members signed. With respect to format, the Big Ten 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: has been consistent and a strong preference for a playoff 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: system that allocate spots based on conference standings and the 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: results of playing games. We want to better connect the 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: regular season and the postseason. A critical goal of any 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: postseason format, regardless of sport, is to keep as many 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: teams alive as deep into the season as possible. We 22 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: want more conference games to matter in November. Also, the 23 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: playoff format should not function as a disincentive to schedule 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: tough non conference games. As we said throughout this process, 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 3: we are open to considering any format ideas that come 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 3: from our colleagues or the CFP staff, but to be clear, 27 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: formats that increased the discretion and role of the CFP 28 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 3: Selection Committee will have a difficult time getting support from 29 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: the Big Ten. 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: All right, So that being said, what the hell are 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 2: we looking at when it comes to the expanded College 32 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: Football Playoff? Because it feels like the SEC started to 33 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: maybe side a little bit with the model that the 34 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: ACC in Big twelve was looking at, and now the 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: Big ten has come out and said listen, and we're 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: just not going to support that most likely. 37 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 4: So it's a nuanced conversation. This is always about money, 38 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 4: and I've talked about this before. So the SEC is 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 4: pushing a model of the five conference champs, so the 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: Power four and the highest rank group of five would 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 4: get the automatic bids into the College Football Playoff, and 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 4: then the other eleven if we expanded to sixteen teams 43 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 4: would be at large bids, meaning the College Football Playoff 44 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 4: Committee would look based on the course of the regular 45 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 4: season and say, you know, these teams are most fit 46 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: to make the playoff. Now, if we look at last 47 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 4: year and we applied that model, what would be interesting 48 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 4: to look at and see is, you know, would the 49 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 4: College Football Playoff Committee take teams who maybe had a 50 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 4: softer schedule in comparison to an SEC or of Big Ten, 51 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 4: but teams only lost one or two games. It seems 52 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 4: like that'd be more the direction that they would lean 53 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 4: or go based on the gripes from a lot of 54 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 4: SEC teams who had three losses, for example, and weren't 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 4: a part of the playoff. Now, in a sixteen team playoff, 56 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 4: maybe it's different. You know, maybe the SEC gets some 57 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 4: of those that large bids that they, you know, wouldn't 58 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 4: have gotten in a twelve team But that's what's what's 59 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 4: really it's about. It's about money. The more teams you 60 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 4: get from your conference into the College Football Playoff, the 61 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 4: more money you're gonna get for your conference, you know, 62 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 4: for your school. So there's a push I think to 63 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 4: some degree for that format, and apart from the SEC 64 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 4: because they think they're superior, and even for some of 65 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 4: the other conferences. I think to some degree because they 66 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: feel like if there's more at large bids, there's going 67 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: to be more opportunities for some of those teams to 68 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: maybe steal more than only a couple of teams, you know. 69 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: For the example. The other format that has been discussed 70 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: and talked about is the four to four for Big 71 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: ten SEC. It'd be another two each for the Big 72 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 4: twelve an ACC So right there, if you're doing the 73 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 4: math on this and you've got sixteen, that's twelve. So 74 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: you'd have another spot for the highest rank group, a 75 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: five team that would automatically get in, So those would 76 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 4: be your automatic qualifiers. You know, you'd be done right there, 77 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 4: and you'd be at thirteen. So you only have three 78 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 4: spots for at large bids. And look, you as a 79 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: fan might say I don't really care, or maybe that's 80 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 4: enough Big ten teams, or maybe that's enough big you know, 81 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 4: SEC teams. But the reason, one of the reasons why 82 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 4: I think the Big ten wants to go at this 83 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: format is is if you go with the five conference 84 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: champions and then the eleven at large, there's the thought 85 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 4: that no one's going to schedule hard and non conference games. 86 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 4: They're they're going to try to have just a clean 87 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 4: sheet all the way through, and then that's gonna give 88 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 4: them the best chance of the best possible chance of 89 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: getting the playoff. If you schedule an automatic qualifiers, then 90 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 4: it kind of comes back to instead of just worrying 91 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 4: about trying to make the college Football Playoff, it's more 92 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: about trying to be one of those top four teams 93 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 4: in your conference, at least if you're the Big Ten 94 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 4: or SEC, and if you're the Big twelve or ACC 95 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 4: one of those top two teams. And here's what's interesting 96 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 4: about that model. If you did go with that model, 97 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 4: I think what the Big Ten is proposed or some 98 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 4: people have talked about, is you would have a conference 99 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 4: championship game one in which we're you know, obviously the 100 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 4: two teams playing for the conference championship one and two 101 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 4: in the conference would automatically be going into the College 102 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 4: Football Playoff. The winner would be the team that most 103 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 4: likely would get a buy if it was fourteen. If 104 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 4: it's sixteen, there's really not as much of an incentive, 105 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 4: but at least you're still winning the conference. If you 106 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 4: looked at teams three through six, they would be, you know, 107 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 4: playing off for those final two spots, So it's kind 108 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 4: of more enticing at least when you look at that 109 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 4: conference championship weekend or how you go about structuring November, 110 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 4: as you heard Tony Petiti talk about, it would make 111 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 4: it more exciting because you'd have three games that are really, 112 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: really meaningful. Now, look, there's kund of arguments to all 113 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 4: these because my counter argument, as I'm saying that right now, 114 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 4: would be, well, you look at last year. You know, 115 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: you felt like there was a ton of teams who 116 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: were in it because we didn't know who the College 117 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 4: Ftall Playoff Committee was going to select and be able 118 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: to rank within that group, and we also didn't know 119 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 4: how Confence Championship weekend was going to play out. So 120 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 4: I got to be honest with you, like, I'm not 121 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: sure how this hits you, and I know that's a 122 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 4: lot of talking, but that's where college football's at. There's 123 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 4: a lot of disagreement, there's a lot of confusion. There's 124 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 4: a lot of people who, quite honestly, I almost feel 125 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 4: like they don't they don't even want to deal with 126 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 4: it because they may want to see the twelve team 127 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 4: playoff play out a little bit more before they make 128 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: this expansion push. 129 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: That's kind of where I fall in it is it's 130 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 2: a little overwhelming that we got one taste of the 131 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: college Football Playoff at twelve teams and expanding to that point, 132 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 2: and I felt like people were so in the weeds 133 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: with complaints about last year's formats to really sit and 134 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: enjoy it. And I just looked at it and said, 135 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: he's year one. It's expanded, and it's awesome. The fact 136 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 2: that you're getting to see those home games, the weather 137 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: having an impact, getting to be there at the Orange Bowl. 138 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: Like going into that scene at the Orange Bowl between 139 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 2: Notre Dame and Penn State, I wasn't really sure what 140 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: to expect because I thought, Okay, you know, how how 141 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: is this? How are they really going to present this 142 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: to people on the outside. Myself didn't have a rooting interest, 143 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: just went there to cover the game with you guys, 144 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: and then to be there and see the excitement, and 145 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: I thought, oh, this is awesome. And the fact that 146 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: you get more of these type games in playoff games, 147 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: meaning moving forward, I think is great for the sport. 148 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: And I just felt like there was too much of, well, 149 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: what's wrong with it? As opposed to what's right? 150 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 5: With it. 151 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: And that's where now we get to this offseason and 152 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: instead of just looking at the twelve team that we're 153 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: going to get here and some of the adjustments that 154 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: they've made, now we're already talking about sixteen. You've got 155 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: you know, the Big Ten campaigning for their side of it, 156 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: You've got the SEC doing it. You've got you know, 157 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: the ACC and the Big twelve kind of pairing up, 158 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: and it just feels like it's overtaking what should be 159 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: a really fun season and the expanded playoff. Now we 160 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: get to see in year two how teams adjust and 161 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: how teams are going to I guess, approach the year 162 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: with one year in the bag, one year in the books, 163 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: and what does it look like in year two of 164 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: this expanded version, as opposed to let's just jump right 165 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: ahead to twenty twenty six and then talk about that. 166 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: I just I want to kind of take in year 167 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: two and then go from there. And I feel like 168 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: there's been a lot in the weeds. And I'm talking 169 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: to Petros about this and I was like, man, it's 170 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: kind of like the college football offseason is kind of 171 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: exhausting because it is about nil. It is about the 172 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: expanded playoff, and you're not hearing a whole hell of 173 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: a lot about all right, well, who's supposed to be 174 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: good this year? Like who are the players to watch? 175 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: We've heard a lot about arch Manning. I can already 176 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: get the vibe that he's going to be the guy 177 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: that's going to be the lightning rod for hot takes 178 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: because of the name and everything that goes along with it. 179 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: But as opposed to all of that, all we're talking 180 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: about is how do we expand it? How do you 181 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 2: fix nil? It's in the it's played out lead, like 182 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: all of the other things that come along with it. 183 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: As opposed to, hey man, we're going to get expanded playoffs, 184 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: teams with an opportunity that maybe wouldn't have had an 185 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: opportunity to win a championship, and the seasons right around 186 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: the corner. We're a month out, literally a month out 187 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: from the season starting. That should be the excitement as 188 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 2: opposed to all the other stuff that's playing to next 189 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: year and beyond. 190 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 4: I don't know, And look, it's unfortunate, but this is 191 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 4: where college football has been. I mean, it seems like 192 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 4: every single offseason it's conversations about an il, it's conversation 193 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: about the transfer portal, and there was a ruling yesterday 194 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: that we can get to it at some point later on. 195 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 4: That's going to change the way at least based on 196 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 4: the past week or so schools thought they were going 197 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 4: to operate with how much money they could spend on 198 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 4: a roster. You know, that war chest of funds just 199 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 4: opened back up yesterday. So that's a whole other conversation. 200 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 4: Like all that being said, college football, just from meeting 201 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 4: with these coaches and players, though, is still in a 202 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 4: really great spot. I mean, I'm always blown away by 203 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 4: one just how much bigger and more athletic, and like 204 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: the kids keep getting like every single time, like every 205 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 4: year that goes by, I'm like, gosh, am I getting smaller? 206 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 4: Or like Sonny Styles, the linebacker for Ohio State, I'm like, 207 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 4: my god, like he's just you see these kids walk by. 208 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 4: Jeremiah Smith yesterday, I'm looking at him like I literally 209 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 4: said to him, I go, hey, I have to come 210 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 4: by a house state that do do I ca an 211 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 4: interview with you and your coach in like a week 212 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 4: or two, I go, can we just play catch? Can 213 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 4: I just throw to you? For I just want to 214 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 4: get the experience of what it feels like to throw 215 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 4: to someone who's going to be that talented, who's like 216 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 4: the next Randy Moss or whoever you want to compare 217 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 4: him to. That's what strikes me as But it's just 218 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 4: ridiculous when you see these young men and you're going, 219 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 4: I don't remember them looking like this back when I played, 220 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 4: and so I do fall sometimes, not to completely segue 221 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 4: to a different topic to when you hear all these 222 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 4: old timers are like a play back, I'm like, I 223 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 4: don't know, man, these guys are pretty damn elite and 224 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 4: athletic and so much more technically sound and more fundamentally 225 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 4: advanced than the older generations, just with how much specialized 226 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 4: coaching they've gone and training they've gotten. It never never 227 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 4: amazes me every single year just seeing some of the 228 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 4: studs that come through the sport. 229 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: Being at the Orange Bowl on the side, like watching 230 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: and kind of looking from you know, the crowd and 231 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: seeing all the guys that aren't playing that either you know, 232 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 2: aren't in the rotation, aren't good enough to play, or 233 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: still working their way into potentially more of a playing 234 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: more of a role next year, and seeing how big 235 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: those guys are, and then it just puts into perspective 236 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: if those guys can't get on the field, what the 237 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: hell are the guys on the field like? And you 238 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: just you take a step back and you realize, my god, 239 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: I just looked up by the way you mentioned sunny styles. 240 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: He's twenty years old, he's six four, two thirty five, 241 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: so it hasn't even really filled out. And so he's like, 242 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: it's just it's a whole nother world, man, It's a 243 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: whole nother world. And you see, you know, you you 244 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: just think about, you know, what it takes to actually 245 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: get to that. And I'm surprised every time I see 246 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: somebody who's an athlete, the difference, like we're both human beings, 247 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: yet we're not really the same human being, Like they're 248 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 2: on another level. And so to see that it's right 249 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: around the corner is going to be a lot of fun. Now, 250 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 2: do you have a preference? Do you have a preference? 251 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: If somebody were to say to you, you've got to 252 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: pick your expanded college football playoff model for the sixteen team, 253 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: do you do you fall on the side of the 254 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: five plus eleven or do you go with the other 255 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: the other eye. 256 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 4: I think it depends on like, I'm not as much 257 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 4: of a fan. Well, I guess there's there's two reasons 258 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 4: why I would be a fan for the four and 259 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 4: four automatic qualifiers for the Big ten and SEC is 260 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 4: if they did do the playing games with the third 261 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 4: through sixth ranked teams. I think it makes that pretty 262 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: compelling case where you've got three games that are ultimately 263 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 4: really mean in the Big Ten the SEC, and obviously 264 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 4: you would have you know, a couple of those as well. 265 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 4: And then the problem is with that model, I don't 266 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 4: know how the ACC and the Big twelve would would 267 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 4: handle the automatic qualifiers with two because I mean, you're 268 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 4: gonna have basically your two teams playing in the conference championship, 269 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: and if there's two teams going from your conference, you'd 270 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 4: be saying, well, it's not we can't say the winner 271 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 4: of this game goes and the loser dozen. But the 272 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 4: problem with that is if you say both teams go, 273 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 4: then there's nothing on the line. So what do you 274 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 4: do to create two games where the winner I mean, 275 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 4: now you have four teams in the mix for it, 276 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 4: even though they're that fourth team might have three losses 277 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 4: and they're playing the number one team and they've got 278 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 4: their undefeated. If you catch where I'm going with this, 279 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 4: it gets complicated with how you go about breaking it down, 280 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: and so it's it's one of the reasons why I 281 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 4: think I like the five conference champions and the eleven 282 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 4: automatic qualifiers and that model better. But that's still without 283 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: you know, not without issues. Ultimately, when it comes down 284 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 4: to it, you know, I think, what's happened in this case, 285 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 4: and this is not to go on a diatribe. This 286 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: is a byproduct of ESPN and what they've done to 287 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 4: college football. And you might think it's good, you might 288 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 4: think it's bad, but this is what's happened. College football 289 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 4: was always a regular season sport. You'd play your ten games, 290 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 4: eleven games back in the day, you'd go to a 291 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 4: bowl game, and then the AP would decide who they 292 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 4: thought was the national champion. 293 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 5: All right. 294 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: It evolved from then to then becoming this. Well, now 295 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 4: we're gonna have the BCS, so we have a ranking system, 296 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: and that ranking system is going to pair off the 297 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 4: top two teams based on the computer and all these 298 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 4: different models, and even there were some human you know, 299 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 4: votes that were in there too, And we're going to 300 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 4: decide who the two teams are there, and those two 301 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 4: teams played off for the national champion. That's how we 302 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 4: did it. Then then we expanded to the playoff. We 303 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: had four teams playoff for right and now we're to 304 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 4: this point. And what's interesting about the more we expand 305 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 4: the playoff, it takes away then from the regular season. 306 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 4: It takes away from those non conference matchups because teams, 307 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: as was a talking point yesterday Indiana, go look at 308 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 4: there when you get a chance, their non conference schedule 309 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 4: for the next five years, and look at what they've 310 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 4: done to try to make sure they have an unblemished 311 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 4: record in non conference play just to get to conference play. 312 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 4: And the shots that Kirk Sidnetty took up the SEC 313 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 4: it was great, But more teams are going to do 314 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 4: that unless you force him to play tougher non conference schedules. 315 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 4: And so what's happening, at least in my opinion in 316 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 4: college football is ESPN has taken it to make it 317 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 4: more about the college Football Playoff, which they completely own. 318 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 4: Tn T will be a part of it only because 319 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 4: they leave. They they at least you know, a portion 320 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 4: of it back, but they completely own it. And so 321 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 4: the SEC is backed by the ESPN, the ACC is 322 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 4: backed by ESPN, the Big Twelve who's partially backed by ESPN. 323 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: They're all pushing for that model because it really comes 324 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: down to what ESPN wants to do, and they want 325 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 4: to highlight the playoff as much as possible because they 326 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: have control over that. That's what this is really about. 327 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 4: It's about ESPN trying to manipulate, to me the game 328 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 4: of college football and change it from being what was 329 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 4: a regular season sport. And we all kind of, you know, 330 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 4: love the matchups, love the robberies, love the history, and 331 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 4: now kind of make it not as consequential only to 332 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 4: the point of, well, you know, how are we getting 333 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: those teams to get in? But once we get in 334 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: the playoff, that's what really matters. That's what's happening in 335 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 4: to college football. One of the conference championship games are 336 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: becoming somewhat meaningless, at least as it currently stands, until 337 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 4: we expand to sixteen and so forth. 338 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 339 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 340 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 341 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 342 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 6: Hey, we're Cavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 343 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 6: five to seven pm Eastern. 344 00:16:59,080 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 5: But here's the thing. 345 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 6: We never have enough time to get to everything we 346 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 6: want to get to. 347 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 7: And that's why we have a brand new podcast called 348 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 7: over Promised. 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Listen over Promised with Covino and 369 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 7: Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you 370 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 7: get your podcasts. 371 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: We do have some hopes that maybe things will turn 372 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: round for somebody in the NFL, and that somebody is 373 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: none other than Trey Hendrickson, the star pass rusher for 374 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals. This from Diana Rossini, who wrote this 375 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: on social media yesterday on x quote just spoke to 376 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: Bengals pass rusher Trey Hendrickson, who is currently in Jacksonville. 377 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 2: For the last thirty days. He'd been at his home 378 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati and training, but his training camp approached, he 379 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 2: and his wife decided to leave. They received two offers 380 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: and a twenty four hour span, none containing the guarantees 381 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 2: passed the first year he was looking for. Hendrickson didn't 382 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: want to hear the practice whistles while being a distraction 383 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 2: to his teammates, so he and his wife, Alyssa, decided 384 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 2: to pack up and head to Florida. Down in Jacksonville, 385 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: Hendrickson continues to train, hoping that a deal could be 386 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 2: worked out. 387 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 4: Quote. 388 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: I was more than willing to take less in some 389 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 2: ways in order to make this work. So that from 390 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: Diana Rossini on the subject of Trey Hendrickson, he has 391 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: not agreed to a deal with the Cincinnati Bengals. I 392 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: mean it just it discontinues on and I get this 393 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: funny feeling this thing's gonna end poorly. Either he's going 394 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: to get traded or he's just not going to get 395 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: a deal with the Bengals. 396 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 4: That based on that report, does it feel like the 397 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 4: Bengals are almost betting against him being able to keep 398 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 4: this sort of productivity. And that's what it feels like. 399 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 4: If you're only able to give him one year of 400 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 4: guarantees in the deal, you're you're looking at his age 401 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 4: and you're saying he's either going to be subject to 402 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 4: injury or he's gonna have a dramatic decline in his 403 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 4: level of play. Now, I also say this too about 404 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 4: Al Golden and when we you and I have talked 405 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 4: about this before in regards to scheme and sometimes the 406 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 4: coordinators and how that can play a factor into how 407 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 4: they value players and some organizations and how those coaches 408 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 4: play a factor in how much they value you know, 409 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 4: a big contract extension like this, because if you've got 410 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: a more elaborate scheme, we're gonna be pressuring like Al 411 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 4: Golden does. And I assume what he did at Notre 412 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 4: Dame wi Vie is very similar to what he's going 413 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 4: to do in Cincinnati. I'm not saying that you don't 414 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 4: need talented players. You always need talented players. But when 415 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 4: you talk about a guy who's got what seventeen sacks 416 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 4: the past two years, you know you are at times 417 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 4: trying to isolate him and you can get away with 418 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: a four man rush because he's so productive, and I'm 419 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 4: sure every defense coordinator would love that luxury. But if 420 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 4: you're a guy who likes to bring pressure and likes to, 421 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 4: you know, do a variety of things, maybe that is necessary, 422 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 4: right because you're going to find a way of getting 423 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 4: free runners based on the protection, and you're going to 424 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 4: scheme up some things to get pressure. You don't need 425 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 4: to necessarily pay you a ton of money out for 426 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 4: it if that's the case. So I do wonder how 427 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 4: you know that new defensive scheme without Golden calling the 428 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: defense is factors in to some degree to to any 429 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 4: of this. But when I hear only one year of guarantees. 430 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 4: What it's saying to me is like they don't believe 431 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 4: that he's going to be able to maintain his production. 432 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 4: They don't believe he's gonna be able to maintain his 433 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 4: level of health, which is unfortunate. So hopefully they can 434 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 4: get to a point where they at least give him 435 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 4: two years of guarantees. You know, it used to be 436 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 4: quarterbacks were the only ones who got into the third year. 437 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 4: We're seeing some of the top players now other positions 438 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 4: get that, and we've obviously seen players like Deshaun Watson 439 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 4: get a fully guaranteed deal, but those are few and 440 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 4: far between. As we know, the owners have colluded to 441 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 4: make sure that doesn't happen again. This is what doesn't 442 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 4: make any sense about what the Bengals are doing. If 443 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 4: this is the approach and the report is true, he's 444 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 4: only getting one year of guarantees. I could understand if 445 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 4: there was a history of injuries, especially over the past 446 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 4: couple of years as he's gotten older. There hasn't he 447 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 4: started every game the past two years. He's gotten better 448 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 4: as the contract has gone on. 449 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: From twenty twenty one to now, he's gotten better and 450 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: he's been healthy the previous two years. So if anybody's 451 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: got a gripe, or if anybody's got a a you know, 452 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 2: look at what I've done. There's no evidence to support 453 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 2: the fact that maybe I'm slipping as I'm getting a 454 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: little bit older. In fact, I've gotten better the previous 455 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: two seasons. It's Trey Hendrickson. And yet for some reason, 456 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 2: if that's the case, and the Bengals are like, yeah, 457 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: we're just not sure if you can keep this up. 458 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 2: What has given you any indication of that. He hasn't 459 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 2: missed games like he's produced. He's been one of your 460 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: only producers on the defensive side of the ball. Without him, 461 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: what is this defense? And then it goes to the 462 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart stuff where it's like, Okay, well, at least 463 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: we've got a backup plan. You don't even have that 464 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: like that. That's the part of this I don't understand. 465 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: And I know that you're paying somebody not for what 466 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: they've did, but for what they can do. But at 467 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: a certain point you do have to look at this 468 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: and go, what evidence do we have to support us 469 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: thinking that he can't last, or that he can't hold 470 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 2: up physically or whatever. It is at this at this 471 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: stage of his career when all the evidence would point 472 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: to no, he actually has, and in fact, he's gotten 473 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 2: better the previous two years. That's a part of this. 474 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense to me. 475 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 4: It's also odd too, because we've seen like older pass 476 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: rushers still be able to play extremely well late into 477 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 4: their career, and if you look at how the leagues 478 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 4: continue to evolve, it's not as if we're talking about, 479 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 4: you know, a guy who is going to be going 480 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 4: up against a lot of you know, I formations, base 481 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 4: personnel sets where you're gonna be playing against the run 482 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 4: more often than not. I mean, these guys are are there, 483 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 4: everyone's throwing more, everyone's playing in more spread formations, So 484 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 4: he's going to have the opportunity to be in there 485 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 4: on passing downs or even passing situations to impact the game. 486 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 4: So you know, not only do you do you like 487 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 4: to have Shamar Stewart in there as a young player, 488 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 4: but you'd like to have a veteran that at least 489 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 4: if it's you know, for a year, you know they 490 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 4: can you know, they can model this after And to 491 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 4: be quite honest, that's the other part of the equation 492 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 4: is they're only probably willing to do one year of 493 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 4: guarantees because they don't want to have to thrust Shamar Stewart, 494 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: as we talked to Pete Prisco about yesterday, into starting 495 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 4: and playing right away. He hasn't been there all off season. 496 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 4: They can't seem to figure out that contractual situation. So 497 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 4: even if they do get him in at some point, 498 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 4: you'd like him to be able to sit and watch 499 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 4: and then slowly work him in until he's playing a 500 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 4: more pivotal role, and then two years from now, you know, 501 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 4: let that be his opportunity to be the guy. And 502 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 4: at that point in time, you're going to look the 503 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson saying, hey, there's no guarantees left on this deal. 504 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 4: That makes it much easier to trade. That makes us 505 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 4: much much easier to move on from you if we 506 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 4: need to, if there's an issue. You know, creates more 507 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 4: flexibility for the ownership. So you can understand too why 508 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 4: they only have one year of guarantees in it, and 509 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 4: and because of you know who's waiting in the wings, 510 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 4: And you can understand why Trey Hendrickson would be frustrated 511 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 4: by that because to a certain degree he knows that's 512 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 4: the writing on the wall, like he knows exactly the 513 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 4: move that they made. Even though you know Sam Hubber retired, 514 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 4: you know, they still are looking at it saying like 515 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 4: this is eventually going to end, and we've got your 516 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 4: replacement waiting to you know, sitting right behind you, waiting 517 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 4: to come in for that moment. We just haven't figured 518 00:24:59,400 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 4: out his contract. 519 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: How could Joe Burrow factor into this? Could he put 520 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: pressure on the organization publicly? I know it's not you know, 521 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: maybe his job to do that, but if he's the guy, 522 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: if he's the face of the franchise, and you know 523 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 2: he is spoken about, yeah, listen, it's not ideal. You know, 524 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 2: we've got you know, he's made mention of it before 525 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: in the off season. But if they start asking him questions, 526 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: how could he put pressure on them to try and 527 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: get this deal done? Because he wanted to get the 528 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: t Higgins deal done, they got it done. He wanted 529 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: to get Jamar Chase done. They got it done. They 530 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: obviously got his deal done. Why not step on the 531 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: gas and put heat on the organization to get this done. 532 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 4: Well, that'd be a better question for him, But of 533 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 4: course he could you know, put pressure on them by 534 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 4: publicly stating we need to get this done or publicly 535 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 4: advocating for Trey, and not that I mean that would 536 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 4: be a comment that if he said it out loud 537 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 4: or to the media, I would assume Mike Brown would 538 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 4: be walking down to his locker soon after that. I mean, 539 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 4: that's that's where this thing goes. So he's aware of 540 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 4: that he's been compensated handsomely. And you know, as much 541 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 4: as you want to help out your teammates, there's also 542 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 4: elements of like, well how much are you willing to 543 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 4: help out? And maybe that'd be a conversation Mike Brown 544 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 4: would wouldn't have with them, you know. But again that 545 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 4: hasn't happened yet, not saying it won't if we don't 546 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 4: get to that point, but because I'm sure they're going 547 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 4: to continue to keep asking Joe Burrow about this, and 548 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 4: again I keep going back to the track record. I 549 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 4: know Bengals fans probably hate hearing this and that sound 550 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 4: like it's a broken record, But Carson Palmer got frustrated 551 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 4: with this and it eventually drove him away from the franchise. 552 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 4: And you have to beg it begs to ask the question, 553 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 4: will Joe Burrow get frustrated with this if every single time, 554 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 4: you know, we look at this Bengals organization is are 555 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 4: they willing to step up? You know, we never got 556 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 4: our clip yesterday together. Of all the many things that 557 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 4: I told you, Pete Prisco would say in defense. 558 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: Of the Bengals, by the way, your best performance in 559 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: the history of this show is. 560 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 4: I don't know about that, but the prediction, I mean, 561 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 4: it's again he's he's It's very easy to tell with 562 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 4: Pete because he's got his buddies and he defends his 563 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 4: buddies and like anyone would, but he's also blinded to 564 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 4: the fact that they are cheap. I mean, I know 565 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 4: guys who played for that organization. Trust me, they are cheap, 566 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 4: all right. They will any play let's play with them, 567 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 4: and they play anywhere else. They'll tell you that. So 568 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 4: that being said, I do think Burro could help, but 569 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 4: it might come at the expense of maybe his relationship 570 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 4: with Mike Brown or the organization and how that would feel. 571 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 2: Like I do wonder about that when you mentioned people 572 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 2: who have been there, because I think TJ. Hush Manzada 573 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 2: has talked about just how cheap they were when he 574 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: was a part of it. And then you hear the 575 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: Carson Palmer stuff. He basically just decided to retire, like 576 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: really good quarterback just decided I got to get the 577 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: hell out of here. I can't I can't be a 578 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 2: part of this anymore. And I do wonder all this 579 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: offseason is done, even though they paid t Higgins and 580 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 2: even though they paid Jamar Chase, Like if you're a 581 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: defensive player, like, are you even considering the Bengals in 582 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: free agency? Like based on all of this? Like if 583 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: you're a guy in the draft, are you are you 584 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: looking at the bank when their pick comes up and 585 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: you're playing on that side of the ball, thinking, oh, please, 586 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: please not this. Like all they've done is prove people 587 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 2: right about how frugal and cheap the organization is. And 588 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 2: Bengal fans can get pissy about it all they want. 589 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: Andy Furman just text me, By the way, all of 590 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 2: a sudden, he's a Bengals ball washer, a guy's been 591 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: ripping the organization for thirty five years, going all the 592 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 2: way back to Sam Weish, and now he's texting me, going, 593 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: but Trey's under contract. Apparently that doesn't mean anything. Dude, 594 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: he's outperformed his deal. Max Crosby went down with an 595 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: injury last year and got paid this offseason. Miles Garrett 596 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: got paid, TJ Watt got paid. He's made. Trey Henderson 597 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: is making half of what those guys have made, and 598 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: he had a better year than all of them last year. 599 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: Like I don't, there's no argument for the Bengals at 600 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: this point, And for some reason, you got people like 601 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: fanboys like Andy Furman, who's gonna sit there and cave 602 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: up for him. It's disgusting. 603 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 604 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and 605 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 606 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: These might smell a little fun, that sounds incredible, but 607 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: they're still good. Time to find out what's left. It's 608 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: Lee's leftovers. 609 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well kind of Lee's not here, so we do 610 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: have some leftovers. 611 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 5: And so, do you have any. 612 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 2: Questions you want to ask Coop about his child acting career? Brady, So, 613 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: I've got. 614 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually have a lot of questions. The first 615 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 4: being this though, Coop, So when you're a childhood actor, 616 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 4: I feel like you're not far removed from like a 617 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 4: like a pet that's on like a TV show or 618 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 4: a movie. Is that kind of similar to how you're 619 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: like directed and how your coached everything. When you're out there, 620 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 4: they're like are they like, oh good boy? Yeah, great child? 621 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 4: Like how exactly does that work? 622 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 7: Yeah? 623 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 5: I mean that can happen. 624 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 8: There's but it depends on like who it's coming from, 625 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 8: because there's there's that vibe. 626 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 5: And then there's also kind of a lot. 627 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 8: Of times I experienced where you've got like the really 628 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 8: seasoned actor and it's just kind of like, you know, 629 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 8: we're we're doing to be a professional. 630 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 4: You're like, yes, I mean how old were you when 631 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 4: you're acting? 632 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 5: I started when I was like four, and I went 633 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 5: till I was like thirteen. 634 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: And by the way, for people listening, you were the 635 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: star of Liar Liar and Dennis the Menace. 636 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 5: Right strikes again? 637 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but yeah you were the Liar Liar? 638 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah? Do I mean again, in that particular case, 639 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 4: you're working with like a star like Jim Carrey. How 640 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 4: is he to work with? 641 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 5: He was awesome? 642 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: Uh. 643 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 8: I think a big part of what you know, how 644 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 8: your experience as a child actor, you know, pans out 645 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 8: is how involved your parent is and how on top 646 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 8: of things they are. Because my mom was very much 647 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 8: she's oh, she's. 648 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 4: Like a dance mom. She's like there all the time. 649 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 5: And just always always there. 650 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 8: And I feel like a lot of the times when 651 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 8: you have like the child actors that you know, go 652 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 8: awry and you know, get into drugs and flame out, 653 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 8: like like the the Amanda Bids types. 654 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 9: And I don't know specifically her story, by the way, 655 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 9: you know, she crashed into my buddies, like right right 656 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 9: in front of my buddy's house and thousand Oaks like 657 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 9: that was right in front of his house. 658 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 2: His dad actually came out and found her. Was she 659 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: having a car or a car? 660 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 8: Well, you know, And I feel like a lot of 661 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 8: times when that sort of thing's happened, it's the parent 662 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 8: is kind of just like. 663 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, you know, go ahead, you know, do do whatever, 664 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 5: just like you know, do whatever you want with my kid. 665 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 8: But my mom was not like she she went up 666 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 8: to Jim Carrey at the start and was like you 667 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 8: you did not curse around my child. 668 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 4: She was giving Jim Carrey a business. 669 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is great, this is great, all right, Coop, 670 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: which actor did you work with that you would not 671 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: be surprised if they were at a ditty party? 672 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 8: Ah, I don't know that I want to answer this? 673 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: Why not? 674 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 2: I don't. 675 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 5: I don't know that anybody that. 676 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: I worked with would have been at a ditty part. 677 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: Who was the biggest weirdo? 678 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna take this on a terrible Tangentop, don't 679 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 4: listen to what he's asking you these I actually want 680 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 4: to know something real. How do you rememberize lines? 681 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: Like? 682 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 4: Is there a method to that? 683 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 8: I just always had a really good I don't. I 684 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 8: don't know if you can call it photographic memory. 685 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 5: I guess. 686 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 8: I would just have to kind of read through the 687 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 8: script once and I would kind of I would know it. 688 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 689 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 4: So there's no way that you could, like someone could 690 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 4: coach you or teach you and how to remember this stuff. 691 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 5: I imagine you can. It's not something that that I 692 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 5: ever needed to do. 693 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 8: In fact, it was kind of something that I remember 694 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 8: co stars getting annoyed with because like they would forget 695 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 8: their line and they'd be like line and then and 696 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 8: then I would say what their line was? 697 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure get beat up. I didn't know stuff locker. 698 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: Was it Marlon Brando who had an earpiece when he 699 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: was acting? Or he had Q cards. I've heard that 700 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 2: some actors will have Q cards that camera. 701 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, that happens sometimes. 702 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. Now Marlon Brando is how old? 703 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: But I think this den Yeah, yeah he is. 704 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. You're bringing up somebod who's not 705 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 4: even alive. You know, the age gabber Di spirit between 706 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 4: Coop and Parland. 707 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: Brando was an actor like Coop knows all these people. 708 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 2: Come on, you've got your sad cards. 709 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure you've met Marlon Brando a number of times. 710 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 5: That's that's one that I did not meet unfortunately. 711 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: Okay, good stories, Yeah, listen, but we got something done 712 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 2: here