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Speaker 1: mid discussion Bowen Summer. Well, first of all, can we

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Speaker 1: we were in discussion on something. First, let me quickly

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Speaker 1: We can't necessarily say explicitly what it is in detail,

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Speaker 1: Um and I just you were fantastic. Thank you, and

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Speaker 1: watch the show with Brandy so that she can see

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Speaker 1: Matt well okay. So it was so funny because she

422
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 1: was giving the best energy. She She had her camera

423
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 1: taking videos of Jennifer as she kept screaming yes, Auntie, Yes, Auntie.

424
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 1: I love it. I honestly, I turned to Vanessa, who

425
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 1: was on my left, I was like, I have to

426
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: tell you, like, I fucking stand like since since since

427
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 1: I never sitting up in my room since the beginning,

428
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 1: since the Moisha, I mean, thank god they put Mosha

429
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: on Netflix too. I used to fucking take Mosha to

430
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 1: the Danny Brandy is a talent, one of the best

431
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: singers in modern stree. But I mean when she sat

432
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: down next to me, I was like, I really was

433
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: living my life and she was giving the best vibes.

434
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 1: And I didn't know that she was close with Jennifer,

435
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 1: but Jennifer is that vibe. She said, she's a hub

436
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: in the wheel. Yes, And Debbie Allen gave one of

437
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 1: the speeches. It was amazing, Are you kidding me? Debbie,

438
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: Mark Shaman and Debbie Allan because Mark Shaman is like

439
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 1: one of her best friends. Did they work together ever?

440
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 1: They did? Actually, so from way back in the day,

441
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: you know how Jennifer started was and she'll talk about

442
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: this when she comes on the pod. I'm sure we'll ask.

443
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: But she was one of Bette Midler's backup singers. Oh

444
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: my god, yes, that's how she got her big break.

445
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,959
Speaker 1: So she was like touring with Bet like seventies eighties,

446
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: Bet like eighties Bet. I love eighties Bat. She's got

447
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: some great songs. Yeah. And if you read Jennifer's book

448
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: or listen to the audiobook, even better, the mother of

449
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: Black Hollywood. And she's coming on to promote her new book,

450
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: which is called Walking in My Joy in These Streets, which,

451
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: by the way, her publicist need to send the book. Yeah,

452
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: I would love to read it. We have to read

453
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: it before she comes on, please, because you know we

454
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: read the book like Sonny Houston while I read the book, which,

455
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: by the way, did we tell the readers and the

456
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: katies that I did that impression for her? Yeah, no

457
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: we didn't. I don't think we did. So when we

458
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: were when we did the view, Bowen literally says to Sonny,

459
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 1: Matt does an impression of you. I didn't say that

460
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: you did? You did? You did? Oh my god, you

461
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: were like, that does an impression of you? And she

462
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: turned to me and She's like, well, what is it

463
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: And I said, well, I read the book. She loved it. Yeah,

464
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: because we had just talked about how she we can reveal,

465
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: was the only one that watched the movie. She watched

466
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Speaker 1: the movie. I think that's it. Yeah, I think I

467
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: think Anna was. I don't know if I had to

468
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: watch the movie. And Anna was just like I was

469
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: so excited about Margaret Show. Yes, Anna was like, we

470
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: said Margaret Show and she lit up. And Whoopee was

471
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: didn't watch the movie, but was very supportive. She was

472
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: so supportive of it and very excited that Joe had

473
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: written it. Yes. Yes, Whoopy said many times how important

474
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: it is to create your own work. And she is,

475
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: of course the solo show icon self starter number one.

476
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 1: The fact that that's still like like gets gets her.

477
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: Like that just the concept of someone being a self

478
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: starter like the Joel is like, that's that's that's amazing.

479
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: She was beaming off camera about it, and she really was, Yeah,

480
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: we got we We did like a little reception that night,

481
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: and she was so effusive and so nice to us

482
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: and yeah, like this she she just she's not stray

483
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: too far from her values. I would say, no for

484
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,239
Speaker 1: for for the length of her career anyway to her

485
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: principles are still there, which are like, you know, you

486
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: got it, like you have to make it happen for yourself.

487
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: And then she said something interesting. She's like, she goes

488
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: because they're not checking for us. And then I think someone,

489
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: maybe it was Sarah, said well, they're checking for you,

490
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: and then Whoopy goes but never first and that just

491
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: to know that, like you know, who be Goldberg. Yeah,

492
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: oh my god, right anyway, Okay, Jennifer Lewis, Oh, I

493
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: was talking, So we were starting we were talking about

494
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: soaps and were you transitioning into housewives. There's much to say,

495
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: There's much to say. There's so much to say. We're

496
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: recording this episode before we get to Aspen, which is

497
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: like Beverly Hills is about to really pop off apparently

498
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: in Aspen. But I want to say something and I

499
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: want to direct it at Lista Arena, who I've always

500
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: you know, sort of appreciate it as like the fun

501
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: villain of the show sort of getting conflict. She keeps

502
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: saying on the show that, um, she's getting herself, cutting

503
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: herself slack and giving herself quote unquote grace because her

504
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: mother just passed away. And I have all the sympathy

505
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 1: in the world for Lisa Arena for the death of Lois.

506
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: She seemed like an incredible woman and I know they

507
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: had a close relationship. This is just a global note

508
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: I have for everyone in the world. You cannot use

509
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: your grief as an excuse to treat people badly. And

510
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: I think it's gross. It's it's a it's an organizing

511
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: principle for her right now or when they were shooting

512
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: this season, because I would say her instinct a lot

513
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: of the time is to dominate, and so I think

514
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: that's what's happening. Because I'm actually watching because you and

515
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 1: I are both rewatching season four of Potomac, and Karen's

516
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: parents died within six months of seven months of each

517
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 1: She is deeply grieving, and I would say she does

518
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: not give herself carte blanche to like be monstrous to

519
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: people because Lisa Is can I say, Beverly Hills really

520
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: bum bummed me out this season overall, and I'm not

521
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying past tense because it's almost there. I just

522
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: think no one's like, no one's really like, no one's

523
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: really that sympathetic or at least no one is that

524
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: like person to me where I can be like, well,

525
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,719
Speaker 1: at least I like them where I'm watching whereas I'm

526
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: watching Potomac now past seasons and even like i rewatched

527
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: the season six episode where Wendy pops off at Gazelle

528
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: and Robin, and I'm like, see, I love the show

529
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: because and I've said this before, Baseline enjoy all of

530
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: them as people, even Gazelle when she sucks up, like,

531
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: she's still really funny. She's still so funny. And I'm like,

532
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: and I was talking to some people when I was

533
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: posting about Potomac on my stories, like overall best vibes

534
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: of any city franchise in my opinion, But anyway, Beverly Hills,

535
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, each of them are a little just

536
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: just a little like gross to me. You know. The

537
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: thing is like, and here's the deal, It's like ze

538
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: Way tweeted this, and I thought that it was very apt.

539
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: So essentially, all these women are characters on a television show.

540
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: And ze Way said the reason why Lisa Vanna is

541
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: not working on this season is because her character is

542
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: not grounded. She has no motivation, like she'll be in

543
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: one scene and apologize and say I have to get

544
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: over some things and I know I'm being out of control,

545
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: and then in the next scene she'll be a complete monster.

546
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: And then the same scene, after she broke down at

547
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: the Homeless not Toothless party, she fucking sorry she like

548
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: homeless not toothless. That eight minutes of TV was iconic.

549
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: It does make the whole season worth it. Please there was.

550
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: It honestly harkened back to ugly other pants, like almost

551
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: but it's better than early weather pants to me. I'm

552
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: just saying, like, in terms of a sequence of television,

553
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: these women dressed up for a disco party for to

554
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: celebrate a like are in a beauty launch for the

555
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: second time, like them dressed up in this garb arguing

556
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: about the title of a charity the order if it's

557
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: toothless not homeless or homeless not toothless, And it's just them,

558
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 1: all of them, saying it over and over again, and

559
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: it's it's it's literally Kristin Shaw is a horse like

560
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: they just keep saying it, and so it gets funny

561
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: and then unfunny and then funny again, and it's so

562
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: insane to me, homeless notime, I'm sick of it, and

563
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: then I love it, and then I'm sick of it

564
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: and it's it's incredible homeless not toothless. And then I

565
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: have to say, I've said it so many times that

566
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: I did go to the website and almost make it

567
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: there you go, but then I found out they have

568
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: like a bad they have like a bad rating from

569
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: like there you go charity, charity dot com or whatever.

570
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: Those two reps at the dinner that was us, That

571
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: was us. That was very watching. I think they're playing

572
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: plots of jet them. I mean, ultimately those ladies just

573
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: silently just like just like and then I loved in

574
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: the last episode when they're like Dory was like you

575
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: guys can leave, like you don't have to sit here,

576
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: and they were like we don't know if we want

577
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: to leave or want to stay, like this is wild.

578
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: And then Melissa Ethridge coming out. Can you imagine like

579
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: Garcela was absolutely so bummed out that Melissa Ethridge. I

580
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: just listened to them scream or maybe she didn't was

581
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: she She was not under the fucking cloth the whole time.

582
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 1: She wasn't under the cloth. Kathy was like under the cloth.

583
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: I did stand when Kathy said, I've worked with the home,

584
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: I've worked with the toothless. I mean, as as a

585
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: gawker did a great article. I think it was Kelly Conor. Boy,

586
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: it's time to press the factory reset button on Kathy.

587
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: It's it's tough. We're going to see how this the

588
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: rest of the season turns out. But I will say

589
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: it was shocking to watch watch What Happens Live when

590
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: they played that game which was setting her up to fail,

591
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: but she did fail, which was do you know this person?

592
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: And they showed a picture of Lizzo and she wins

593
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: at the screen said I can't see it. Who is

594
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: that precious? And then some people said, well, she probably

595
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: thinks it's preciously the model who like does bear a

596
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: resemblance to Lizzo. But I think I think she was

597
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: trying to make a joke and was you know, it

598
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: was a racist When you tell someone I don't know,

599
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: it's like it's like emperson you close. It's like when

600
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: you sort of like kind of love or celebrate someone

601
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: for being like I don't know, like ignorant, that of

602
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: touch that way, it's it's setting them up for something awful.

603
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing is she was not celebrated for

604
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: this one. I mean, she was dragged on Twitter and

605
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: even issued an apology, and she said in the apology like,

606
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: my eyesight is bad. My eyesight is bad, but that's

607
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: not the point. I mean. So we will see how

608
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: this goes with Kathy, because apparently something major happens with

609
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 1: Kathy Hilton and Aspen. It's right where Kyle freaks out

610
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: at her. But did you see so sometimes in the

611
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: edit they hint at this stuff. So there was a

612
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: moment in the last episode of Beverly Hills where she's

613
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: talking to someone and she says, you know, Rick, her

614
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: husband says to me all the time, you have to

615
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: be careful what you say because if you say the

616
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: wrong thing. And you have to wonder why was that

617
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: in the episode, because they're probably hinting that something is

618
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: about to happen because they just took that snippet of

619
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: casual conversation rights and put that in there. That's like

620
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: that kind of politically says something about her. And you

621
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: remember that scene where Diana says to Garcella, you're the

622
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: coldest of the bunch. I feel like I can't get

623
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: to know you. And Garcella's like, what are you talking about?

624
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: And then Kathy laughs. When Renna starts to get involved,

625
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: you can see Rinna and Erica decide that Kathy is

626
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: the next on their list. I think because to target. Yeah,

627
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: because Kathy laughed at them because she thought they were

628
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: being as stupid as they were being. Yeah, I'm so

629
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: where Erica, Jane I, me and Pat Regan share have

630
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: us in comment. Never really Erica fans to beginning, I

631
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: always like Dereka, and then when everything happened, I was like, actually,

632
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: at the beginning, I remember when we get Cecily on.

633
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: Cecily was very America. I wonder what she is now.

634
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would love to talk to Cecily

635
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: about this, but I can't imagine that Cecily, being the

636
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: rational person she is and very like nuanced in her

637
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: thinking when it comes to housewives and things in general,

638
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: that she can sympathize much longer with the whole Erica situation.

639
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: Just the behavior is so rotten, it's not good, and

640
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: like that moment, I mean, you want to feel bad

641
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: for her, but then I go, she's also just a monster,

642
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: where she's like, look at this, I don't want to

643
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: be here I'm gonna have this life. Look at my life.

644
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: I don't mean while she's living in a fucking like

645
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: like like truly Hancock Park. You're not like, yeah, you're fine.

646
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: She's She's actually fucking Fontine up in here. She acting,

647
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: she's acting like Fontine. You think she was Fontine, toothless homeless.

648
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: Fantine was home looked toothless. Toothless. Fantine was homeless and truthless.

649
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: Literally had to sell her teeth for pennies. I can't

650
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: think about Fantine. I'll get too sound, you know if

651
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: I get into Fantine. Honey, Wait, tears are coming. You

652
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: want to know something. I'm getting really emotional about just

653
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: life in the world. I look at my damn nieces.

654
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: I turned a corner with my nieces. Not that it

655
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: was ever like Aunt Tiny, Well, remember when you hated

656
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: your nieces. I never hated it, But I was kind

657
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: of like Ellie's being a little like in her terrible twos.

658
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: Ellie was being kind of and she was stressing at

659
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: my sister and my brother in law, and I felt sorry.

660
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: Children are hard to love in their terrible to period period.

661
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: Children will listen, and children are hard to love in

662
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: their terrible twos. Honey, the way I'm going to see

663
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: into the woods again on about it? Can you go off? Okay,

664
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: but talk about your nieces. Well, first, I just this

665
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: is into the woods. This is business leads into into

666
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: the woods and at them and I just go, oh

667
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: my god, the things you say juding us, and I

668
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: just think they're so wonderful and I believe they are

669
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: the future. Well they're so, I will say again. And

670
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: I don't like to just boil kids down to their

671
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: looks like this, because I know that can be damaging.

672
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: But these girls are staring. I vowed to never comment

673
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: on their looks until they're gay, until they're like sixteen,

674
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: and then be like, hey, hon, I know I've never

675
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: said it before. Mama, you're starting, Mama, slay I since

676
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: you were born, they are well, you know, I just

677
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm more and more aware of the fact. Like like

678
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: I like I was at home with my sister, my

679
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: brother in law, the nieces, and my parents, and like

680
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: it was really nice to have everybody there, and I

681
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: was able to appreciate, like it it was nice for

682
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: every instead of reverting, which I usually do, want to

683
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: go back home, like a lot of people do. I

684
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: we all were just able to focus on the girls

685
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: in some way at least, which was nice, and appreciated

686
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: my parents and your parents thing, and appreciated my sister

687
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: and the way she parents. And then I just think

688
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: that it made me understand and remember that children absorb

689
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: the emotional environment they're in, and I'm like, damn, like

690
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 1: it sucks that they're growing up in a time where

691
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: everything is terrible. When do you think your sister will

692
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: tell the girls that you're a sodomite? I think tomorrow.

693
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna call you tonight and say, Mama,

694
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: tonight is the night the night tell the girls I

695
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: take it but style, but style, I take a butt style.

696
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: And then you tell the phone like this done, and

697
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: you go okay, Joshua, Henry, Pippa Sue, Sarah Barella O

698
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: Pippa Sue? Are are we calling her Pippa because her

699
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: name is Philippa? Her name is Philippa. But she goes

700
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: to she goes to most people. She she goes, She

701
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: turns to me, she goes, you can call me Pippa. Seriously,

702
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: she did that? Yeah me? Did you actually meet her? Yeah?

703
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: I've better multiple times. Oh my god, what I d

704
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: m her like a freak. I don't know she she

705
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: has to understand the impact she's had on cultural stas,

706
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: unless cultural stas even she should come on. She's she's

707
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: got to come on. She is. I also fucking stand

708
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: her husband. Did you see Bridges? I never saw Bridges. No,

709
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: this was like it was giving capital L capital M

710
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: leading man like Broadway voice and fucking just stack. No o,

711
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: my god, it's crazy, or like that's a star, handsome man,

712
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: amazing voice, amazing after you're like, this is unfair. The

713
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: tony snub that was should have been heard around the

714
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: world for Bridges. Oh it was. It was horrible. This

715
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: was back when I was like still like I like

716
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't seeing that many shows because I just didn't

717
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: have it, like the instinct like the biggest for grad

718
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: I have about my time at Y and I know

719
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: I never I never saw shows and in my you

720
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: do you understand the discounts that we could have right now?

721
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I remember our freshman year, like the thing

722
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: the thing to do, like orientation week was to go

723
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: everyone went to go see in the heights, like they

724
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: would take like huge like bus loads of freshmen to go.

725
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't in the was a Spring Awakening. It was no,

726
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: we miss spring Away, or maybe it was no, it

727
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: was spring Awakening, because you want to know what I

728
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: did see Spring Awakening Welcome Week so jealous and it

729
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: was I remember I sat next to this guy Luke

730
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: that I had a major crush on, and I'm flashing

731
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: back and I was out, not in the closet. I

732
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: was in the closet, and I remember there's like the

733
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: scene where to your body the reprint or it's like

734
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: the gay scene. And I swear to god, I was

735
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: bursting out of my pants and I could feel like

736
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: the energy from him next to me was giving you

737
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: some No he it was just like we were sitting

738
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: there just like both like fucking bursting, so closeted and

739
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: that could have been so hot. And I just watched

740
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: this happen on stage and it was just like that's

741
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: like a formative memory, like sitting there like listening to

742
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: these gays singing to each other. By the way, I

743
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: think it was Blake Daniel, Oh my god, I think

744
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: it was. It might have been. Anyway, we know so

745
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: many Ernst, we do so many bottoms that play Earnst. Anyway, yeah,

746
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: we and we need to be seeing more. I do

747
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: need to be seeing more. I feel like I feel

748
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: like this season I've I've I've gotten to see wonderful show.

749
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 1: We'll give more of your take on Into the Woods.

750
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: It was fantastic. It's it's a it's a full proof show.

751
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: I was talking a close goal about it and they

752
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: were like, it's I was like, it's a basic answer,

753
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: but it's my favorites on him. They're like, that's not basic.

754
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: They go, it's a full proof show. It can you

755
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: can never go wrong with it. And I said, what

756
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 1: I realized this time launching it was because I only

757
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: this is my first time seeing it a lot, because

758
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: I only see the PBS recording. Likewise, um, and I realized,

759
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: and this is again like a very very basic thing

760
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: to understand about the show because people have known this

761
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: for decades. But it's a show. It's an impactful show

762
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: because it's a show about impact. It's a show about

763
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, children listen, consequences and everybody getting what they

764
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: want and then it all falling apart, like you know,

765
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: it's just such a good show. And this this production

766
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: was so perfect I do regret not seeing it City Center,

767
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: but I just loved the the ensemble of this one.

768
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: Tina was incredible, Sarah was incredible. See that's why I'm

769
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: going again, because you didn't get to see Sarry, but

770
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: you got to see Philippa Pippa. I did see her.

771
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: She honestly nailed the physical comedy. I didn't expect the comedy.

772
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I think it's because, oh you

773
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: want to know what. I actually have not seen her

774
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: on stage because when I saw Hamilton's I think she

775
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: had either just left or took off. I just missed her. Yeah,

776
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: so I didn't see her, and I did see all

777
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: the original cast. Shout out line Manuel, Shout out Lynne,

778
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: who can come on? When Lynn listens? Lynn at least

779
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: listen to the Global Songbook episode because Lynn loves the

780
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: song Dancing Crazy by Miranda Cose Girls. As result of

781
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: us putting in on the list, which means he listened

782
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: for I think that's like in the middle of episode

783
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: two of this apart two and so he contacted me

784
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 1: and told me this, and I said to him, Lynn,

785
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: it's amazing to hear from you. Congratulations. Unsatisfied making the

786
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: list I want you to know that Bowen and I

787
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: used to perform Satisfied and we'd be announced as Renee

788
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: and the Least Goldsberry. Remember that. I do remember that

789
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: so well. Two amazing comedians Renee Lee Scoldsberry, Philippus too.

790
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: Who knew? Who knew? Oh God, you gotta be You

791
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: gotta do it all. If you're on Broadway, you gotta

792
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: do it all. If you're on Broadway, you gotta do

793
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: it all. I'm telling you. There's a there's a YouTube

794
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: clip of Audre McDonald's on the Tony Awards performing a

795
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: number from one ten in the Shade. Um it's called Raunchy.

796
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: She does an aerial flip. Are you kidding me? I

797
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: Am not kidding you. Get onto YouTube right now. Watch

798
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 1: the YouTube performance of Raunchy from one tent in the Shade.

799
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: Audrey McDonald does an aerial flip. And remember that she's

800
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: Audre McDonald, who has Audre McDonald's voice. Understand that she

801
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: also can do an aerial flip. You gotta do it all.

802
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: You can do aerial flips. Sing fucking pork in Bess

803
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: fucking be on private practice, forget it. Also, she once

804
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: played the beggar woman in Sweeney's hod that's your favorite

805
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: on time it is And I know that I've actually

806
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to see Sweeney Todd so many times

807
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: because actually there's that iconic production they did a few

808
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: years ago where I believe it was Carolee Carmelo played

809
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: Mrs Lovett Um and I didn't get to go in

810
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: like a small space too. I think it was like

811
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: somewhere in the East Village. It's like a really tiny

812
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: the barrel street there um that would have been iconic,

813
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: and the the gag was they served like actual parties.

814
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: But I want to see Sweeney Todd done on a

815
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: big scale because it's such a big show and I

816
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: want to see like, I want to see big sets.

817
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: I want to see like a throwback to the original production. Um,

818
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: because I believe Sweeney Todd is like it's a masterpiece.

819
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: And I've said on the pod, but I'll say it

820
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: again because it bears repeating. There's a concert version of

821
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: Sweeney Todd that has Patti Lapone, George Hearn, no Patrick

822
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: Harris at all, and it is a stunning production and

823
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: it's on YouTube amazing. I haven't seen it. I should,

824
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: I should see that you'll have to hear. Us has

825
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: done a lot of Sondheim and a lot of content versions.

826
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: Wasn't he Bobby for Company? Yes he was, and he

827
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: also just did the Baker at the City Center en chorus.

828
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: I heard he was great, Um and he did he

829
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: was Toby in Miss Sweeney Todd. Yeah, he's he's quite

830
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: good at very good at so time. He's a very

831
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: clear voice. Yes, yeah, he's a good he's a great performer.

832
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: I gosh, I've I've missed so much Sunheim in the

833
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: last few years. I missed. Assassin's Assassins is really underrated.

834
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 1: I mean, but the Assassins was the City Center and um,

835
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: Aaron Markey as fucking Squeaky Squeaky heard was iconic. They

836
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: probably were unbelieved, of course they were. And then um

837
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: the original Squeaky by the way, any golden golden so

838
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: the Giant's wife and grandma and um the tree tree

839
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 1: uh I and there's you and it's it's as I'm sorry,

840
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm jumping all over the place. But then like it

841
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: made me think likest culture. Such a shame that there

842
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: are no great film versions of Sundheim. But maybe merrily

843
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: we were along Richard Linklater might be good, but we're

844
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: not going to see that for another like, you know,

845
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: twenty years. I mean we'll see. I mean, it's got

846
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: great talent. But I think here's the thing about the

847
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: Sondheim movie adaptations. I think Sweeney Todd the movie, it's

848
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: fine if you know absolutely fucking nothing about the original musical. Unfortunately,

849
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna come if if you know an observed culture

850
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: at all, you will come with an understanding of it,

851
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: and you'll see that it's not cast well and that

852
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: it's dumbed down musically. And I'll say this, you know,

853
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: I stand hell in the bottom carter, But if you

854
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: can't understand the words that Mrs Lovett is saying, it

855
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. And Johnny Depp is Johnny Depping too much.

856
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: I love Johnny Depp in it. I know that's unpopular.

857
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: So I liked a minute a lot. No, it's yeah.

858
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: I thought he matched the tone that they were going for.

859
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: If we're gonna do it, Tim Burton, I think Johnny

860
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: Depp was good. Do you think it's somewhat dissonant to

861
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: have like I guess we'll call him like a tourist

862
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: director with like fucking paired with Sandheim. It's like, I

863
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: feel like that's that's so I think it depends it's yeah,

864
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: I just feel like that's so um what's the word like?

865
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: Hyper constructed? Like there's too much going on. I think

866
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: people shouldn't be afraid to have this look more like theater,

867
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. The thing I loved about

868
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: this production Into the Woods was it was very bare bones.

869
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: Was was basically the concert version, but with like a

870
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: few like production elements. It felt like they had to

871
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: make it a quick transfer, and they did that while

872
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: still giving it enough to make it feel like we're

873
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: seeing a Broadway show that wasn't just like a stage

874
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: screen right right. But God, these performances good. And I

875
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: want to say the thing about the end of the

876
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: Woods movie. Some of the performances are really good. Like

877
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: I think Chris Pine is a great yes, very good.

878
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,479
Speaker 1: Cinderella's Prince. Gosh. I did think during this Broadway show

879
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: that the kids really get lost a little. Red and

880
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: Jack are both like, I'm like, I don't remember a

881
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: single thing about them in the Broadway version. No, no, no,

882
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: no no, I'm thinking the movie in the movie. You know,

883
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: when I was watching the Broadway version and go oh no.

884
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: The girl who plays Little Red in the Broadway version,

885
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: Julia Last, Julie Lester, icon and incredible, she said, annoying

886
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: girls are back. Well. But that's the thing about Little

887
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: Red is that it's hard to not make that grading.

888
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: For lack of a better word, you have to lean

889
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: in and just go for it. Like it's it's so

890
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: like Mother's said, straight ahead, like it's like it's literally yes,

891
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: like yeah, great, it's it's that's where the comedy is.

892
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: You have to have you have to throw all your

893
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: vanity away for something like that. And I think that

894
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: the girl they got for the movie, and I'm sure

895
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: she's Crawford. I'm sure she's lovely. I wish your success.

896
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: I just I don't remember like that they're being that

897
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: sort of vigor to it anyway, not vigor, but like

898
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it just wasn't like

899
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: No and and Jack like Giants in the Sky. I

900
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: was like, let me listen, let me go back and

901
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: listen to the film version of this. I was like, damn,

902
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: you didn't. You didn't feel it. It's just not there,

903
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: you know. Unfortunately, I think that Giants in the Sky

904
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: while Jack is a child, and I think it was

905
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: probably the right decision for the movie and what they

906
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: were going for to cast a child like Giants in

907
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: the Sky like this. Actually that song is either a

908
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: huge smash that that is like really hits because it

909
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: is dense and it's tough. I mean, like because he

910
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: goes through a journey in the song, but to have

911
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: a child performing it, and especially that kid who's talented,

912
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: but it's sort of still in that phase of child

913
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: actor where it's shouty um. One of the best versions

914
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: of Giants in the Sky is Mandy patinkin, Oh my God.

915
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: Of course I love that he's a full grown adult man,

916
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: but he does he sings it in like a pretty

917
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: high register. Yeah, I mean he's he's like v tenor.

918
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is like he brings the gravitas

919
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: to it where it's like there's a world weariness to it,

920
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: and it's this is what world you never thought to explore,

921
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: Like it's that's the journey. It's like, oh, he comes

922
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: back and he's like, whoa, I didn't realize that this

923
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: is all? Like I love that so much. It's such

924
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: a great distillation of life in one lyric. This is

925
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: what's on time is great. I mean, just remembering you

926
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: had an and when you're back to or makes the

927
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: arm mean more than you did before. Are you kidding?

928
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: Like to me, I'm like, are you fucking kidding? Are

929
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: you kidding me? And you know what, I cannot wait

930
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: to see Sarah do that. Oh, tell me about it.

931
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: Moments in the Wood, Yeah, I was. I was paralyzed. No,

932
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: I know what we were. I went with Patrick Rodgers.

933
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: I cried. Yeah, I was like, God, that's so fucking

934
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: When the baker's wife is that Moments in the Wood

935
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: is whoa? And then she immediately so it's crazy. And

936
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: then oh my god, which is not a spoiler, I mean, man,

937
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: And then honestly, let's let's just put some respect. And

938
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: by the way, this was the gag. So the night

939
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: I saw it, who was in the audience, but Bernadette

940
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: peters herself, Oh, I'm walking I'm walking in and literally

941
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: this happened. Katie turns around and goes, I just want

942
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: to say I'm I'm a reader. And I was like,

943
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: it's so great to meet you. And then she goes,

944
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: you're not going to believe this, but Bernadette Peters is

945
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: behind you. I said, are you fucking kidding me? She

946
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: goes now and I turned around. There she is smiling, glowing, excited.

947
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: And then minutes later I look at the play bow

948
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: and Sarah's out and I was like, oh, bomber like

949
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: Sarah missed like coming. Oh my god, Wow, that's a

950
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: that's a great night. So imagine being Pettina. I know,

951
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: knowing Brendan Dat's out there, but then also you're Patina

952
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: with a perfect voice. Voice is perfect. Oh come on,

953
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. She was wonderful, so good. She was great.

954
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: The power that that has, the power, the Pettina that

955
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: that has. And you know what, just to talk about

956
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 1: these roles in the movie, I thought Meryl and especially

957
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: Emily Blant were fat. Merril and Emily were wonderful, really

958
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: really good. Okay, let's quickly touch based on Patna is there.

959
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: Do you think it's worthwhile? I think it's worth while.

960
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean, we have some rumors, Well did you see

961
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: a tweet because and Candice herself retweeted this, oh ship. Well,

962
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: of course that there's route that The report is that

963
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: Candice Dillard Bassett and Ashley Derby are quote unquote the

964
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: stars of the season because the entire time they've been

965
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: another quote unquote messy, A f the co stars, and

966
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: I'm going, yes, give it to me now. I love it.

967
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: Did you ever think that these two fucking mortal enemies,

968
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: mortal enemies, little little scampy women who we love and

969
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: a door these beauty we've we've not always loved as

970
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: I actually disliked Ashley very much, but actually the fact

971
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: that she f out for divorce makes me go, Okay,

972
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: well he wasn't gonna. He wasn't gonna, but it took

973
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: her long enough. But I'm glad you finally did it.

974
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where you're like, well, better

975
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: eight than never. I mean, I go give it to me.

976
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: When do you? Staphone interviews as well, being like just

977
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: do you wait? It's worth the way. We're not getting

978
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: this until October. I heard this rumor tell me that

979
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City is coming in late September and that

980
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: Potomac is coming in October. Yes, and I heard that

981
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: the Salt Lake City trailer, if it's not already out

982
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: by the time this episode comes out, is imminent. And

983
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: by imminent I mean this week and then it's a

984
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: good one. Well, I mean, what do you think John

985
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: show fucking changes the plea please pleads guilty. I mean,

986
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if that will be on the episode.

987
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: I mean they'll have to face that's the bombshell of

988
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: a bombs and Bravo. Yeah, Like I do I remember

989
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: that day? Oh that was breaking news. It was like

990
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 1: when Trump was they searched tomorrow lago. Well, I remember

991
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: the day she was. I remember the whole the um

992
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: the shuttle. Did I remember the like John getting arrested day? Yeah,

993
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: Nity Gardener never like did you see this? Shaw got

994
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: arrest Oh my god, I'm so exciting. And let me

995
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: just say, because there are some Katie's Slash readers out

996
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: there who are militantly anti housewives and kind of get sick,

997
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: get sick of us talking about it, But can we

998
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: just say, like it is one of the unifying pieces

999
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: of monoculture that I know of where I can talk

1000
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: to anybody, most people from different walks of life, and

1001
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: we get into deep, deep discussions about our friends who

1002
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: were never housewives people before are finally like getting on

1003
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: board and are like framing conflict through the show. I'm

1004
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: like it's it's a really interesting lens through what you

1005
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: see human like relational aggression. You know who we have

1006
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: to have on Casey Wilson and Daniel Schneider. It's time

1007
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: for a time. It's it's long overdoing. We actually for

1008
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: for Beverly Hills reunion slash beginning of Salt Lake. But

1009
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 1: that's when they should come on. You hear that, ladies, ladies,

1010
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: and Michelle wants to come on. Talk about Michelle content.

1011
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: Michelle has an open door policy. She was on the

1012
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: Today Show co hosting the show Give this woman a

1013
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: Morning show? Now, I said, Now, I said, she is

1014
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: just the one of the most magnetic people, the funniest

1015
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: bound motherfucker. Yes, she's so good. We needed we need

1016
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: to have her back. Someone spilt sauce is still being

1017
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: quoted today. You know what's funny, she would actually be

1018
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: perfect to take over for Wendy. Let's talk about this

1019
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: because you sent me the Hollywood Reporter cover story written

1020
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: by Miss Lacey Rose herself. That was heartbreaking, Katie's readers.

1021
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: You have to if well, it's not for the faint

1022
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: of heart, but it was what was a Hollywood Reporter

1023
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: The Hollywood Port the cover story. Yeah, they did. They

1024
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: did a full piece on the situation with Wendy william

1025
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: Sin really tough, really hard, and um, I just I

1026
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: always forget that we moderated her Vulture Fest. Remember that,

1027
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: I remember that. But she was she she seemed vacant

1028
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: a little bit. Because we went to go talk to

1029
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: her in her room before, just to like fill her

1030
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: in on like the run of show. She just was

1031
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: like looking at us, like great, and then I haven't

1032
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: Kevin was there. Kevin and Kevin Jr. Were there. M

1033
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: We were in a small room with them, and oh

1034
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: my god, that was a weird one. That was weird,

1035
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 1: and we were excited to meet her. And then she

1036
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: gave us nothing. She gave us nothing and then afterwards

1037
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,959
Speaker 1: left without saying anything, I mean whatever. We weren't expecting, Like, yeah,

1038
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean you know what it was giving. It was giving.

1039
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm off until I absolutely have to be on, and

1040
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: then I'm giving and then I'm done, which I completely respect, right,

1041
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: especially understanding more now what it means to be like

1042
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: on a press schedule and what it means stuff to

1043
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: conserve energy, of course, but do you think is one

1044
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: of the things in the piece in the Hollywood reporter

1045
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: piece really remarks on how all of these producers say

1046
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: that there's no one else you can do what Wendy does,

1047
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: which is sit in that chair and for twenty minutes

1048
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: just talk and have the whole audience in the palm

1049
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: of her hand. I had a problem with that because literally,

1050
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: Michelle can. Michelle can. And I was and I literally

1051
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: not to be stupid, but I thought of you was like,

1052
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers can do that in his sleep. But I

1053
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: was like, do you think that goes along with her

1054
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: being like off and then flipping a switch when she

1055
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: knows she's on display or something. I think she's good

1056
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: at what she does. I mean, also, you have to remember,

1057
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: like it's like anyone that's like this is not a

1058
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 1: one to one, but it's sort of like when someone

1059
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: who's much older can recall a story from a long

1060
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: time ago. It's like she has it in her blood,

1061
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: it's in her brain, it's in her fucking like yeah, deep,

1062
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: deep lobe, this is a woman who ran radio, you

1063
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean, where she's trained to talk at

1064
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: talk and she has the gift of gab. But for her,

1065
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: it's like it's like it goes beyond that. And remember

1066
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: it's like being able to talk for that long and

1067
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: hold core for that long does not necessarily mean you're

1068
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: saying all the right things. Because how many times have

1069
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: we said, oh my god, just last week we had

1070
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: apologize up top, I apologize every other I'm talking specifically

1071
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: about Wendy, Like how many times she said ship that

1072
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: is completely either incorrect, completely problematic, unfounded. So she's sitting

1073
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: there talking and so, yes, she's good at and can

1074
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: do it, and we have an acceptance of like it

1075
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: being she has carte blanche because she's Wendy. But like

1076
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: you know, that's part for the course when you when

1077
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: you're told sit here and talk, you're gonna say some

1078
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: stupid ship. But I think that Michelle could actually improve

1079
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: on because Michelle can moderate to Michelle. Michelle knows how

1080
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: to like guide a conversation. Because I don't think Wendy

1081
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: was that good of an interviewer. That's why she stopped

1082
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: having guests. I mean, that's one of the I don't

1083
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: think that's the reason why. But it's like she doesn't

1084
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: care for it and also did that. I thought this

1085
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: is an interesting part of the article when they said

1086
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: that they had difficulty book and guests because the last

1087
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: of celebrities hater because of what she says exactly, which

1088
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: she must understand to be a liability. I don't know,

1089
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: but Michelle, okay, and this is not to bring this

1090
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: up out of like um masturbation, but um. Andy Cohen

1091
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: said something really nice, which is that he was someone

1092
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: asked him, like, who would fill in for you if

1093
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: you were to stop hosting? Who would be a great

1094
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: gayly host gaily night host? And he mentioned Billy Eichner

1095
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: and he mentioned you didn't mention us. That was really

1096
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: very nice. I might have mismisread that and thought that

1097
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: he was talking about like a theoretical replacement, which like

1098
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't think never ever would ever happen. I think

1099
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: if he's going to leave, watch what Happens Live, then

1100
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: don't end um. But Michelle, like Michelle will be perfect

1101
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: for that. Michelle so much. She can do Today Show,

1102
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: she can do Wendy, she can do like these kinds

1103
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: of shows. You know, she'd be great hosting one of

1104
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: those reunions. That's that's what I'm saying. And I also

1105
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: think having a woman in that. You know what though,

1106
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: I actually think that weirdly enough, because it's ending and

1107
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: because it's a male energy, I think they differ in

1108
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: a way. It's also their boss, so in a way,

1109
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: he is like uniquely set up for that because he

1110
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: operates from a place of authority and also he's just

1111
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: like he's visually and energetically a different vibe than all

1112
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: of them. So it's like whenever one of them snaps

1113
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: at him, like it feels like, oh my god, they

1114
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: talked to Amy that way. Whereas, like, you know, if

1115
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: it were like another woman in that chair or someone

1116
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: who was like on the same level as them, like

1117
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: in terms of like just another you know, comedian personality,

1118
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: what have you, they might like refuse to answer a

1119
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: question or get fresh. Sure, I mean, yes, a counterpoint

1120
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: to that as Nicki Minaj, but she would not do that,

1121
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: Like she obviously had a different style, and all the

1122
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: Potomac women were like, oh that's fucking Nicki Minaj, Like

1123
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: she operates a place of authority. Um, so you would

1124
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: need someone like that to like keep these people in check,

1125
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: these people who think that they are like morally sort

1126
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: of superior, or are very self righteous in their way, defensive, egotistical,

1127
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: all these things why not bring the most egotistical person. Yes, nick,

1128
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: I mean someone who's also going to be able to

1129
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: speak to those women, like those women she's I loved that,

1130
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: reven I thought, I just write I recently rewatched it. Actually,

1131
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: what what was what did you think about Eddie following

1132
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: all these booty models? And she just cracked up less so,

1133
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: but then what was the what was like? Nikki asked

1134
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: Astley something and then she she said, you didn't come

1135
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: down there with your breast milk to start some drama child. Yeah,

1136
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: but then I just remember is she said your breast?

1137
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: But there was another thing that Nicky said where she

1138
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: was like, like someone says something like I was trying

1139
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: to like stall on the answering the question, and then

1140
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: then they're like, oh, is it this kind of that

1141
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: kind and then Nicki goes it was because she was

1142
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: insinuating that Michael Darby was attracted to one Dixon. Yes, yes,

1143
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: and then actually goes sexually, yes, sexually? Is there? Congratulations Nicky?

1144
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: She has a number one hit. Amazing, what do we think?

1145
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: I love it? I'm saying this. I love Anaconda. I

1146
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: love Anaconda. I love a song like Anaconda. You know what.

1147
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: I think she had the right idea. And I'm first

1148
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: of all, let me also say not not only is

1149
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: this a be hive podcast, this is extremely, extremely a

1150
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: barbed podcast. We are not politically barbed, because I think

1151
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: there is a there is a politic to being a

1152
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: barb at this point, Like barbs are like completely radical,

1153
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: and it's sometimes radical. It's actually culture number ninety nine

1154
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: radical and we we we acknowledge that we stand. But um,

1155
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: we love Anaconda. I don't love this song, but also,

1156
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: like I think I'm excited to hear whatever album it's

1157
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: on because I just want Nikki to be fun again.

1158
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: And therefore I want I want nick No, I don't

1159
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: even need Nikki to be fun. I just need Nikki

1160
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: to not care what ivery one thinks. Like you know,

1161
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, you get the

1162
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: sense that she's in a She was in a very

1163
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: self conscious era. I think Cardi really shooker, shooker. But

1164
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: now that we're in a we're in we're in a

1165
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: place where there are all of these female rapper, female

1166
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: represent mcs who can like directly link their aesthetics and

1167
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: journeys and points of view to Nikki in a way

1168
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: and to like little Him and like and Missy and

1169
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: like all the predators and Queen Latifa, like um, I

1170
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: think Nikki can come back and not be as insecure.

1171
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: She was right in that window and Hardy showed up,

1172
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: and it was the media made it seem like it

1173
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: was just the two of them. They're all way different.

1174
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: Of course, it's it's like not even the same. It's

1175
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: it's it's just there's no need for it. But also

1176
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: it's it's not their fault. I mean, it's it's completely

1177
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: this like insane industry that they're right now. And also

1178
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: a lot of the ways in which they get spoken

1179
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: to by media, Like if you ever seen like like

1180
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: Nikki's interviews on like the Breakfast Club, like the way

1181
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: that Charlotte Mayne talks to her is crazy. I don't know.

1182
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't haven't seen enough of the interviews,

1183
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: but I feel like generally, like a lot of the

1184
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: female entertainers who go on that show, like feel like

1185
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: they're feel like they're a little taken to task or something,

1186
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: And I don't I wonder what that is. Well, I

1187
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: think because they are rightfully or not. I mean, like

1188
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: it's a little weird sometimes, like the way that they

1189
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: do well. I'm just saying, like Charlotte Mayne has a

1190
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: little bit did you ever see um the bated episode

1191
01:02:55,360 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: with episode z Way did an incredible episode with Charlotte

1192
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 1: man and she like shook him to his core because

1193
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: he said a lot of funked up about black right

1194
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: right right, you know, and she like was pretty much

1195
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: like reminding him, like I didn't forget about this. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1196
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: But I think there's like a general attitude that he had.

1197
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: I don't know about now, but I'm sure I'm sure

1198
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: he's I'm sure he's grown. I enjoy I enjoy that

1199
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: he has strong takes speaking. I almost always watched him

1200
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: on a late night show, you know what I mean?

1201
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: Um truly like what a what a career on that man.

1202
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: But um, I think he's hot too. Oh yeah, I

1203
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: would say that speaking of Andy Cohen like like sort

1204
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: of m hmm influenced. I mean, Zo always credits her

1205
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: interview style to Andy. Kathleen, do you understand any of this?

1206
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: She's living. She's living. Yeah, are you a reader? Yeah,

1207
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: She's like she's like, I'm a Grammy winner. She's I

1208
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: don't listen to these sucking podcast She's like, I'm listening

1209
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: to these gay people. She didn't say that people same.

1210
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: It's time for I don't think SONI, which is our

1211
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: iconic and celebrated one minute segment on this podcast. Uh,

1212
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: it's sixty seconds of Railian against something in culture at

1213
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: large that we things serves to be dragged. I have

1214
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: something I do too. Okay, great, I love that. I

1215
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: love when we can come together and both have something.

1216
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: I mind. My minds a little spicy. And it might

1217
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: we might lose some some katies after this, but it's might.

1218
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: You need to make a public apology. I actually know

1219
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: no one will convince me that I'm saying too much already.

1220
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: But you want to go, you wanna first. This is

1221
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many times starts now.

1222
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. People who go to a

1223
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: restaurant and say what do you think between these two

1224
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: things to the server and then name two completely different things,

1225
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: and it's like, Mama. If you come in and say

1226
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: you want what do you think between the sizzling shrimp

1227
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: and the watermelon fed a salad, It's like bitch. And

1228
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: then the server is just like, I don't know. That's

1229
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: so different. Like I recently went to a restaurant and

1230
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey. This entire experience with this

1231
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: person who just was like I wanted to know, like

1232
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: what they preferred between these two extremely different dishes like

1233
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: and this, no, and this is like a completely different

1234
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: person than me who goes into a restaurant and has

1235
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: no idea what they want. Usually I have some sort

1236
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: of like nature in me. That's just like I'm kind

1237
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: of feeling a protein. Some people would truly come in

1238
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: there and be like I don't know what I want,

1239
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: and it would be completely different, and then you put

1240
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: the server on the spot and they're like I can

1241
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: feel them because I used to be one of them

1242
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: where it's like I don't know between steak and fucking

1243
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: even steak and like fish, it's like completely different. What

1244
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: do you want? What do you want? You don't think,

1245
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: so honey, you don't know, so honey, I don't think

1246
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: be decisive in a restaurant. And also it's just like

1247
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: I also really can't stand when then they picked something

1248
01:05:58,080 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: and they're like, but can it be this instead of this?

1249
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: And this instead of this and this instead of this, Mama,

1250
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: pick something else on the menu. That sometimes I will

1251
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: pick the item on the menu that even if it

1252
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: like it is not exactly what I wanted, it has

1253
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: at least the collective package of something I would enjoy.

1254
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: Because I hate telling someone a server or something to

1255
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: go to the kitchen and do substitutions and all this

1256
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: stuff and modulations and modifications on the order, because I

1257
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: know you're setting yourself up for failure or disappointment or

1258
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: and this is not to knock anybody who keep who

1259
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 1: has to do this out of out of necessity. Well, yes,

1260
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: but there is a yeah there, there there's um there

1261
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: there there there's a fine line. I just think it's

1262
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: agree with to be like, hey, I don't know what

1263
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: I wanted all what do you like out of these?

1264
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: You know what's not I I don't I do think so, honey?

1265
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: And would would honey like, could you make a recommendation

1266
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: for me? I'm a little let's see, And then the

1267
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: server can say absolutely, this is my favorite dish. What

1268
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: do you love on the menu? This is what I love.

1269
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: What I used to do as the server is this

1270
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: is my favorite dish on the menu. This is a

1271
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: very popular dish on the menu amazing, and they can

1272
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: make the decision there, and then they could say I'm

1273
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: torn between these two things. And then if it's like

1274
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: one or the other, and it seems like I can

1275
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: understand what area there is, that's one thing. But when

1276
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: it's like a taco or a fucking you know, rice dish, honey,

1277
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, the chasm is too big. Or it's

1278
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: like with cocktails, it's like, you know, what's what's a

1279
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: good drink? This gin one or this beer. It's like, honey,

1280
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: what do you want? Do you want this um absinthe

1281
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: or this spike Miller milk? Girl? Want you wanna milk?

1282
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: You wanna fucking mudslide, avoca soda? I don't know. You

1283
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: want diarrhea or to not be that drunk? You tell

1284
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: me by away by the way, um and I don't

1285
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: usually do this, but um I did do it. And

1286
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: I think so, honey about flashable whites. Oh yeah, what

1287
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: Tushy sent me a fucking free to day and they

1288
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: offered to someone to you, they did, and I am

1289
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: not home right now, so I felt uneasy about having

1290
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: someone really should I installed mine two days ago and

1291
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: it's truly changed. I don't know though, because do I

1292
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: self installed? Is it difficult? It's not difficult. You self installed.

1293
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 1: It's a little messy and dirty for like ten minutes.

1294
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: You want sucks, there's are you there? You can throw

1295
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: down a towel if you want for your knees. Well, okay,

1296
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: I guess I have to come around to the bid

1297
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: day thing. Huh, what do you mean? What are your

1298
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 1: reservations about the days? The thing about the days that

1299
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: I question is it's like when I use a flushable wipe,

1300
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: like I'm very in controls, very manual process. I know

1301
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:58,839
Speaker 1: everything is, you know, lickety split down there right, Whereas

1302
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 1: with a biday it's like, okay, I got water splashed

1303
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: on my ass. That doesn't mean that it's like excavated

1304
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: the wipes, the toilet papers. I'm still getting dingleberries. And

1305
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: you're not doing drag. You're not to back back to

1306
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: front side to side zig zag. First of all, you

1307
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: need to do this. And I don't want to contribute

1308
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 1: to the fat burgs A name I haven't. I wake

1309
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: up on a cold sweat. Who's who? Who did that?

1310
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 1: Who named him? That? I really don't like it, And

1311
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: to think it's collections of fatty Wait. I just literally, guy,

1312
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, the sewers are so important. I know

1313
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: you said this, and I have to stress I can't

1314
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: believe that. On the podcast Last Cultures, Bowen Yang said,

1315
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: if we if the sewers go, everything everything goes. And

1316
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, wastewater is now like a huge tool for

1317
01:09:55,360 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 1: public health. Huh the wastewater. They're they're sampling wastewater or

1318
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: to see what viruses are are going around. Come over it.

1319
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: It's no, it's helpful, bitch, all right, it's not. It's

1320
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: not our job to go down. There's someone's doing it,

1321
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: and I hope they get paid handsomely. I literally hope

1322
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,839
Speaker 1: that person that that should be the richest man in America,

1323
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: whoever is going down there. I mean, I'm like, yeah,

1324
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: I'll go down in the wastewater to help us out

1325
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 1: with viruses at all. That should be Elon Musk. I

1326
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 1: think there should be a wealth like you know, yeah,

1327
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: there should be a quality. There should be a huge

1328
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: gap in well, there should be wealth inequality. But the

1329
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 1: richest people in the world should be elementary school teachers

1330
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: and those diving into wastewater to find the new virus

1331
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: period period, or you dive into the sewer to get

1332
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: water for diseases. You don't pay taxes and now that

1333
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: should be law. That should get one free super yacht.

1334
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: Where's Joe Biden on that? And when you get one

1335
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: free super yacht? What's a super yot? It's a yacht

1336
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 1: that's longer than like a hundred feet girl. No, No,

1337
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: they didn' whole piece in the New Yorker about it

1338
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: about how like that's it's a way for rich people

1339
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: now to like dump it's it's like a way for

1340
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: them to like put all their money in without like

1341
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 1: offshore accounts. Like well, you just buy yacht and then

1342
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: like put it wherever. It's a way for Leo to

1343
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 1: fit fifteen or eighteen year old. They are that young.

1344
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: So sad anyway, Um, I have a lot of interesting

1345
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: text right now. The community is really getting together to

1346
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: text me, Um, okay, let's do bow and Yang's I

1347
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: don't think something because we got to get over to

1348
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 1: Thai Tee. I can't wait me neither. Um this we love.

1349
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: It's a great, great event. And let's just say we

1350
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 1: didn't get to go because I was sort of feeling

1351
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: myself in a tomb vocally, but Alaska looked insane, the

1352
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: makeup looked on points. So for the readers that don't know,

1353
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: in the katies that don't know either, Alaska thunder Funds

1354
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: has been doing for the past year and a half

1355
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: or so these concert events at three dollar bill where

1356
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: she kind of embodies a different pop star and a

1357
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 1: different album era, um and basically dresses like them. But

1358
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: like it's accurate. I mean, she looked like Taylor Swift.

1359
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: It was it was giving, it was giving Taylor she

1360
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: did she basically did coreo from the chore. She looked

1361
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 1: exactly and the energy was really really right, and um,

1362
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 1: it looked so fun really. Boughlin produces and photographs them. Well,

1363
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: so did you see Matt Locus posted on a story

1364
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 1: Laguna Blue singing this love Oh yes, stunning And then

1365
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,640
Speaker 1: I think someone I forget who, but someone did an

1366
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: amazing rendition of Clean where I where I went, Oh,

1367
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: this is an amazing I didn't really care for that

1368
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 1: song before, but then I love Clean and like if

1369
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: it's like, if it's someone who you know has a

1370
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: vocal power. Not that not to say Taylor doesn't, but

1371
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: like if someone can give it that heft. I'm like,

1372
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: oh damn, this is an amazing song. You know who

1373
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: does a great cover of clean? Sarah borrellis, Oh my god,

1374
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: and she I think it was like she did like

1375
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: a cover of cleaning beforehand. She did like a little

1376
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: video intro and she said she was like, I guess

1377
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: it was like celebrating tell her or something, and Sarah

1378
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 1: Brellis goes, I just want to tell a story about Taylor,

1379
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 1: which is that she was kind enough to invite me

1380
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: to sing a song with her on her world tour,

1381
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: and I something happened and I couldn't hear myself and

1382
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: I bombed horribly, and I went backstage and cried and

1383
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: cried and cried, and Taylor came back and comforted me

1384
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,799
Speaker 1: and said that how excited she was and that this happens,

1385
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: and that she's still that no one cared, and like

1386
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: it was still so great to have me on stage,

1387
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: and she made me feel so good. And then she

1388
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: covered Clean and was Sarah Borrellis, I mean stunning. There

1389
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: you go quickly. I want to say this is not

1390
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: an apology, but it's to address something that happened last

1391
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 1: last episode. A lot happened in this coody bags the episode,

1392
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 1: but it's it was controversial. Some Swifties seemed to think

1393
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: that we sighed we were aligning and siding with Cody's

1394
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: tailor stands were or we didn't defend didn't defend her.

1395
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: She needs no defense, first of all. Second of all,

1396
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 1: everyone knows where we stand with her. We love her,

1397
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 1: and she's done incredibly kind things for us, and we

1398
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 1: will always be grateful. But it's not transactional in that

1399
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 1: way at all. And we will make the light stupid

1400
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: jokes every now and then about the private jet while

1401
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: while we can, but of course it's we're not gonna

1402
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: like and actually if you do, if you actually do

1403
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: more reading on it, it's like, um, a lot of

1404
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: a lot of environmentalist groups were like, but it's still

1405
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: not even for people who own private jets. It's not

1406
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: like incumbent on the individual action is not even the

1407
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: thing that has to be like changed, Like even if

1408
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 1: every private generators stopped flight flying their jets, like we're

1409
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: still like on the fast track to like all this

1410
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 1: crazy sht happening in the environment to count down to extinction.

1411
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: But it's no, it's just saying like it has to

1412
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: happen on like on a bigger scale with like fucking

1413
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: corporate set anyway, Um, we we are still very very

1414
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: very swifty here. Every now and then we can we

1415
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: can light of the of the media narratives that are

1416
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: happening as long as it's not fully ruining her life.

1417
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: This is bone yangs. I don't think now, I don't

1418
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: think so, honey, me getting this sty buying this opointment

1419
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 1: and then looking at the label and it's saying homeopathic.

1420
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so many homeopathy. The whole thing is

1421
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 1: fucking bug. How are you going to say that it's

1422
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 1: more potent when it's more diluted. That makes no scientific

1423
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: conceptual sense. It's bullshit. It actually harms, and and the

1424
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: whole principle of of it gets worse before it gets

1425
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 1: better is bull shit. Okay, it's quackery. I don't want

1426
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 1: to hear it. Come from me if you want to.

1427
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: But it's insane that I get to walk into these

1428
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,440
Speaker 1: secods and see half of the ship there be homeopathic.

1429
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: It's garbage. How is this that three billion dollar thing?

1430
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: I don't know? Oh wait, yes I do. It's because

1431
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: people can fucking think for themselves. You cannot have people

1432
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 1: pushing homeo homeopathy on you when every single scientific study

1433
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 1: and and and and area of research on it is

1434
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: saying that it's inconclusively it doesn't it's actually conclusively not

1435
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: helpful to any treat I guess what the ointman didn't do, ship,

1436
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: I had to buy the classic styegel and it's gone.

1437
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. There is nothing I love more

1438
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: in this world than traditional medicine. I love it. Give

1439
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: it all this crazy ship I hear from people. This guy,

1440
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: This guy was like talking the ear off at dinner

1441
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: one time on a day, being like, you know, one

1442
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 1: tile and all pill makes her stomach bleed to gallons

1443
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: of blood. I'm like, that's not good for that can't

1444
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 1: possibly be true. Congratulations. I'm like, okay, then give me yours.

1445
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: I have a headache because they're you talking. Because are

1446
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: you talking, sweet sweet guy? I have a headache from

1447
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: you talking, sweet guy. Oh my god, it's so real,

1448
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 1: and just it gets worse before it gets better. Well,

1449
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: then I don't want it. I don't want it. I

1450
01:16:56,040 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: wanted to get better period. Now this is the chemo.

1451
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be. Shouldn't be. If it's chemo, then I

1452
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: understand anyway, if if there are Katie's out there who

1453
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: are like homeopaths and can't listen to this anymore. By truly,

1454
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't care homeo sexuals. It is homeosexuals against it.

1455
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm against it. Don't don't. Don't homosexuals against homeoo sexuals.

1456
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: That's our new that's our homeless not tooth Kathleen. Do

1457
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: you do you watch Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Kathleen,

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Speaker 1: You're not a homeopath, are you? Okay? So you're started

1459
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: and you understand, like what homeless not toothless? That is?

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01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: You did? You did? You did say that you understood

1461
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,560
Speaker 1: everything that we said. So you lied, you said you

1462
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: understood everything that we said. And we talked for a

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01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: long time about homeless not toothless. You're blind, You're you're speechless?

1464
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you a homeopath? Kathleen? Us? Both? Damn it?

1465
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 1: We alienated. There you go. I love medicine, period. Some

1466
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 1: of this ain't medicine, though, putting bee pollen and ship

1467
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't. The title of this episode is public apology,

1468
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 1: but the feeling energy of this episode is we love medicine.

1469
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 1: Yesterday and they worked like a Charney well Beautrin train

1470
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: changed my life. Honey, prep, I love the st I

1471
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 1: just I mean, listen, I we're about to be on

1472
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,839
Speaker 1: Stradio Labor. Stradio Lab is coming to big money players

1473
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: and we're on their first episode and they do a

1474
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: shout out segment and I shouted out, de sco vive

1475
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: the stuff they allowed me to have bareback sex. This

1476
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: is an amazing this was so I mean to be

1477
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 1: this is yeah. I was just gonna say I pushed

1478
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,600
Speaker 1: for this to be in person. Doug engineer, Doug was

1479
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 1: God bless him. Um was figuring it out for us.

1480
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad this happened. We should be in person as

1481
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: much as possible, That's what I'm saying. And it helps Doug,

1482
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 1: it helps Kathleen, it helps the engineers, it really does.

1483
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 1: Wasn't this such an easy, simple process? Yeah, well this

1484
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: will this. Look at your Grammy. This episode is grammy worthy.

1485
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: This is grammy worthy. I would say the way it

1486
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: was high culture. And look the way we spend time

1487
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 1: on Sondheim. And also, I we have not done a

1488
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: culture catch up in a while. We haven't. And listen,

1489
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Speaker 1: I think it's very important that we keep doing them

1490
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 1: because because the calendar is is stacked, and I love that,

1491
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: but it is sometimes I do think it's important and

1492
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm not. This is not me like wagging a finger

1493
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: at anybody. I think I love that we get you

1494
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 1: and me I do too. I think that sometimes when

1495
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 1: people are like, we love the culture catchups, It's like, yes,

1496
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: But also the podcast is about asking guests that are

1497
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: interesting in culture, what was the culture that made you say?

1498
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 1: Culture was having interesting discussions. But I also understand that

1499
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: people love what they love. Maybe there will be a

1500
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: new announcement of some more nominees. Wait what we have

1501
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 1: not discussed this. I'm so excited. Who knows, Maybe we

1502
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: will be maybe sometime before the end of the year.

1503
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: Maybe sometime for the end of the year, there will

1504
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: be a hundred new categories announced. Oh my god, I'm

1505
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: I'm I'm dead ass excited. Maybe not saying promise, saying

1506
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 1: maybe there will be an exciting announcement a nomination special

1507
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: god for an award show in June, a six month

1508
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 1: awards season. It is coming almost time to announce new nominees.

1509
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 1: It's so excited for an event. Oh my god, I'm

1510
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 1: so thrill. The Cultural Awards are here to stay absolutely

1511
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,799
Speaker 1: put that on the say and to close out summer,

1512
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 1: highlight of my summer cultural Awards, Yes, and more to come.

1513
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: I would say the actual best moment of the year

1514
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 1: for me so far was the three and a half

1515
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: minutes that we performed Driver's License. Yeah with Josh. That

1516
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 1: was peaking. And there's been so many incredible moments this

1517
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: year have but my summer could have ended right there.

1518
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 1: It should have, it should have, and it it did

1519
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,640
Speaker 1: for me. Hang it up, hanging up. Haven't had a

1520
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: pleasant day since yeah, well until today, until today, And

1521
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: now we're gonna go and drinking vodka soda or two

1522
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 1: and m gallivant. Alliphants always end every episode with a song.

1523
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 1: A big tall, terrible giant door, a big tall, terrible

1524
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 1: lady giant and sweeping the floor, and she gives you

1525
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 1: a food, and she gives you rest, and she drives

1526
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 1: your close to her giant breast. And you know things

1527
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: now that you never knew before, not until the sky.

1528
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 1: There in the sky, they're a big, tall, terrible, awesome,

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Speaker 1: scaring wonderful giants in the sky.