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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge, presented by DraftKings.

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Speaker 2: We are here to review the tape from the Ravens

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Speaker 2: thirty seven to thirty one overtime thriller against the Rams.

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Speaker 2: And there's been a lot of news even since then,

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Speaker 2: a lot of things going on. So Garrett, let's start

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Speaker 2: out with the tape and the hero of the day,

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Speaker 2: Tylan Wallace. I'm still I'm still pretty excited from that

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Speaker 2: that touchdown. I've been informed by a few people now

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Speaker 2: that I was more boisterous in the press box than

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Speaker 2: I thought I was. Yeah, I thought I gave it

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Speaker 2: a silent fistbump. Apparently my boss, Michelle, our boss, informed

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Speaker 2: me that I also shouted out.

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Speaker 3: It was not not so silent fist bump.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she said. I was like, no, no, no, I kept

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Speaker 2: this out. She was like, no, you screamed, let's go.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I wasn't blackdown. I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: remember that at all.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, going back and revealing the tape pretty fun

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Speaker 2: to see what happened on that one. What kind of

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Speaker 2: stands out to you, Garrett, when you go back and

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Speaker 2: look at.

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Speaker 4: That play, Well, there's a few things to stand out

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Speaker 4: about the play. Also, I was trying to like rap

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Speaker 4: my brain thinking about, like what plays in Raven's history

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Speaker 4: Does this remind me of? Like what in Raven's history

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Speaker 4: do I think of? Do I put this into the

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Speaker 4: category of And the one that comes to mind most

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Speaker 4: clearly is the Will Hill kicks sick kick if yes,

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Speaker 4: And that was the blockfield goal.

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Speaker 3: Will Hill, the safety.

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Speaker 4: At the time, picks up and returns it for a

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Speaker 4: touchdown walk off winner, and then everybody and and honestly,

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Speaker 4: part of my thinking as to why it reminds me

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Speaker 4: of the same thing I would I had like the

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Speaker 4: same perspective on like the far end of the field,

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Speaker 4: and then I had to run down into the corner

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Speaker 4: to the same way.

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Speaker 2: I saw you in the scrum there trying to record

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Speaker 2: some stuff getting run over, huffing it.

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Speaker 1: Huffing it. I saw you, I saw you.

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Speaker 4: But but yeah, so that one, to me, they feel

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Speaker 4: very similar. Just like the guy scores a touchdown on

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Speaker 4: a special team's thrilling fashion play, everybody swarms him in

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Speaker 4: the end zone and it's just jubilation and excitement. So

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Speaker 4: that one, when I think of this play, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: put it in that same category. We need to come

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Speaker 4: up with a name for it. Like the kick six

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Speaker 4: has the name, so we need to come up a name.

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Speaker 4: Come up with a name for the Tom Wallace the

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Speaker 4: walk off punt return.

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Speaker 1: I got nothing. Email us, how about that?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: Listeners, email us at the lounge at Ravenst NFL dot net.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we do need to come up with a name

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Speaker 1: for that. You're right, You're right, all right.

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Speaker 2: So when I look at the play on film, what

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Speaker 2: stands out to me is, you know, obviously for good reason,

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Speaker 2: Tyler Wallace is the hero, but you look back and

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Speaker 2: you see all the blocks that allowed him to make

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Speaker 2: that play, and it was almost like everybody on the

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Speaker 2: punt return and had a hand in that, right, And

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Speaker 2: John harwall said, yeah, that that was the play it

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Speaker 2: and it's it's it was executed pretty much as as

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Speaker 2: dialed up as as drawn up, right, But with every play,

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Speaker 2: unforeseen things happen, right, So just to walk through it

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Speaker 2: a little bit, right, Jellen Armor Davis good block as

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Speaker 2: a gunner on the other side, double gunner, great, right,

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Speaker 2: but then you have a guy that's running through unblocked.

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Speaker 2: That Thailand just had to make miss with his spin

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Speaker 2: and he did, right, then you have a couple of

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Speaker 2: linemackers cutting off all the guys. He gets up the

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Speaker 2: up the sideline, Justice Hill takes out the punter the stumble,

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Speaker 2: keeping his feet.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like everybody.

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Speaker 2: You go down the line and I've got Jaylenen, Armor, Davis,

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Speaker 2: Darryl Worley, Ronald Darby, Trent and Simpson, Charlie Kohler, del

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Speaker 1: Hill with the key blocks. Yeah. Right, that's eight guys

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Speaker 4: And then there's and then there's a returner, so I

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Speaker 4: guess the long like there's two guys missing basically in

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Speaker 2: Well, in Thailand, like I said, there's there's a free

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Speaker 2: He really made kind of like three plays I thought.

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Speaker 1: Defensive back kind of almost caught him from behind.

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Speaker 2: So and then besides that, it's a lot of good

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Speaker 2: blocks and it's just interesting. Let's also take a pause

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Speaker 2: here to say the block by Charlie Kohler has.

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Speaker 1: Been debated whether that would be was a block in

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Speaker 2: It's pretty obvious hand on the shoulder and the guy dives,

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Speaker 2: you're trying to make the tackle.

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Speaker 1: It was not a block in the back. There was

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Speaker 1: no hand on the back. To be a block and back,

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Speaker 4: I liked John Harblough's comment on that where we say, yeah,

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Speaker 4: in order for him, in order to call a block

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Speaker 4: in the back, you actually have to touch his back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that wasn't a block in the back.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I will say that in looking at it

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Speaker 4: like I do not, I think it was absolutely the

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Speaker 4: right call.

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Speaker 1: I am also totally the right nine call. Correct.

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Speaker 3: They officials did the right thing. I all.

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Speaker 4: So with that said, have seen officials kind of get

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Speaker 4: baited in that situation where a guy dives to try

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Speaker 4: it's maybe a flag, right, and they throw the flag

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Speaker 4: in that situation, so it could have gone the other way,

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Speaker 4: and I'm glad that they obviously glad they didn't do that.

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Speaker 3: It was the right call.

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Speaker 2: And let's just take a time out and say, you know,

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Speaker 2: the officials catch a lot of flak, and there's plays

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Speaker 2: within that game that, of course Ravens filions are bellyaching

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Speaker 1: About that, Oh that was a bad call or whatever.

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Speaker 1: They got this one right, yeah, and they deserve credit

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Speaker 4: Like I also think Charlie Coler deserves credit for it

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Speaker 4: because when you're in that situation and you're basically trying

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Speaker 4: Cohler deserves credit in that situation for not trying to

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Speaker 3: So I give Coler credit in that spot as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, too, agree. Possibly my second favorite part of the

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Speaker 2: play is watching the sideline reaction from the Ravens. Chris Horton,

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Speaker 2: Ravens special teams coordinator, showed the ups. There's a former

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Speaker 1: He showed a little bit with the leap for joy

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Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite parts of the clips,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we have We have some great clips that you

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Speaker 4: can check out there on our site and are on

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Speaker 4: social media. We have Patrick Queen Mike. He was Mike

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Speaker 4: during this game, so we have his reaction the entire

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Speaker 4: way down the field. There's also video of Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 4: think everyone kind of had the same reaction. Players, fans, coaches,

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Speaker 3: Okay, what you know?

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Speaker 4: And then and then he and then he obviously finds

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Speaker 4: other thing that I do want to mention on it,

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Speaker 4: I love the block by Justice Hill down the field.

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Speaker 1: I agree that was a great pot.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean it's you know, it's on the punter,

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Speaker 2: so like it is to get credit it is, but

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Speaker 4: The sidelines and Justice Hill all the way down the

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Speaker 2: So Darrel Worley's block was a little underrated, underappreciated on

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Speaker 2: the double vice that they locked that dude up for

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Speaker 2: like what felt like ten seconds, Yeah, and Worley just

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Speaker 3: Well, that was kind of the crazy thing about the

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Speaker 4: It's like it kind of took a while to get

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get this out of the way here, Garrett.

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Speaker 2: I think it's an obvious choice this week for the

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Speaker 2: no week. As we're talking about him, you gotta give

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Speaker 2: it to Tyland Wallace.

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Speaker 1: So they are no no No.

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Speaker 2: The seventy six yard running out in the backyard, getting loose,

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Speaker 2: getting loose so hot on defence, I'm gone this Joe's

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Speaker 2: ooh home, Oh the week.

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Speaker 1: Congrats to Tyler Wallace.

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Speaker 4: I think that's his greatest honor in this great week.

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Speaker 4: He's getting a Dog of the Week. Sure, shout out

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Speaker 4: to Tiland for that.

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Speaker 2: All right, So before that happened, the other amazing moment

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Speaker 2: for Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: People have questioned Kenny, Kenny bring the Ravens back with

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Speaker 2: his arm, you know, is he able to do that

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Speaker 2: lead a comeback like that? And we've seen it happen before,

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Speaker 2: so I don't know why those questions persist, but they do.

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Speaker 2: And he proved it with that drive, a big time

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Speaker 2: comeback drive, primarily with his arm. And so what I

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Speaker 2: saw on that was kind of a combination of things.

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Speaker 2: I thought, Justice Hill another moment, he deserves some Flowers,

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Speaker 2: really nice juke move coming out of the backfield to

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Speaker 2: pick up twelve What was second and ten? Start off

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Speaker 2: with the incomplete pass to pick up that That first

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Speaker 2: get out of the gate right. And then from there,

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Speaker 2: Lamar started just picking apart the Rams defense. He recognized

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Speaker 2: chains again, did have one ridiculous run where and kudos

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Speaker 2: They were putting him in some big time pressure cooker situations.

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Speaker 2: So he cleared one out across the field for Obj,

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Speaker 2: that's how the play is drawn up, right, that's how

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Speaker 1: That's how the plays design.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't necessarily mean that's how it's gonna happen, right,

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Speaker 2: He has to basically he has to get that safety

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Speaker 4: By Todd Monkin in that situation, and also like it

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Speaker 4: That's when I was down on the field, and I

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Speaker 4: There was no real information. They were all looking at

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Speaker 4: really well done by Lamar and Zay and Nelson Aguilar

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Speaker 4: on that play here on that drive in general, Lamar

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Speaker 4: Jackson had twelve dropbacks. He threw ten passes, completed set

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Speaker 4: of seven of them is an eighty one yard drive

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Speaker 4: like they got it done with through the air. Lamar

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Speaker 2: Used his legs to really avert disaster on the one

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Speaker 1: That was a big play, yeah, but it was primarily

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Speaker 4: Then the two point conversion, which like you kind of

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Speaker 4: what you could argue that that was maybe Lamar's best

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Speaker 4: play of the drive. Like not many quarterbacks can make

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Speaker 4: that type of play. He's got pressure right in his face,

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Speaker 2: Oh one hundred percent, there's there's one quarterback that it's Lamar.

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Speaker 1: He basically like sidestep them just to.

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Speaker 2: Get a fraction of a second longer, and then you're right,

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Speaker 2: he's being tackled. He wasn't on his feet at all

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Speaker 2: It's just pure arm talent on that throw. I mean,

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Speaker 1: That one was special.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree.

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Speaker 4: It just that it was a really start to finish

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was a special drive from the line.

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Speaker 2: I think the way he finished it, I didn't think

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Speaker 4: Trying to take it away from it. Yeah, i'matic like

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, twenty one yard throw. Look, we're a

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Speaker 2: It was different releases to free up open receivers. It

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Speaker 3: Version, yeah, which does count. Those are pretty important.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Another thing that obviously helped out Lamar and helped out

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Speaker 1: Granted, that's Khalil Mack.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think.

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Speaker 1: Offense, he's fine. And they found it in this game.

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Speaker 1: Hit more big plays.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Ronnie Stanley had forty four pass blocking snaps, gave

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Speaker 4: but that ankle injury is always something I think that's

442
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Speaker 4: going to be top of mind and physically you feel

443
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Speaker 4: that he's gonna feel that probably forever. And so then

444
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 4: he's dealing with the knee injury and he played through

445
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,760
Speaker 4: it and he wasn't his best. I think the bye

446
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,920
Speaker 4: week was critical for him, and then he came back

447
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,360
Speaker 4: and played a much better game. So, like, I think

448
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,720
Speaker 4: that the Ravens need to get a lot out of

449
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Speaker 4: Ronnie Stanley. He's one of the top players on this team,

450
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Speaker 4: and he is one of the guys who's a veteran

451
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Speaker 4: leader of the team who they expect to play at

452
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Speaker 4: a super high level. And this game I think was

453
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Speaker 4: a big step in that direction. So I thought it

454
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Speaker 4: was really it was a really good sign for Ronnie

455
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Speaker 4: and for Morgan to play that kind of put together

456
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Speaker 4: that kind of performance. Yeah.

457
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Speaker 2: I talked to him after the game, Ronnie, and he

458
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Speaker 2: said that he definitely felt more stable, more secure, and

459
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Speaker 2: just kind of stronger anchoring, which was had been his problem.

460
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Speaker 2: He was just getting bull rushed back into Lamar Jackson's

461
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 2: lap too often, and so that's a really good sign.

462
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Speaker 2: I think part of it is not just the physical

463
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Speaker 2: part with him. I think it's the mental part, right

464
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Speaker 2: when you've had two knee injuries and the angle, like

465
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Speaker 2: you're talking about like how much do you really trust

466
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Speaker 2: yourself and trust your body to hold up when you're

467
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Speaker 2: trying to anchor?

468
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Speaker 1: And I think that.

469
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Speaker 2: That is feeling strong, feeling like you have stability in

470
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Speaker 2: that knee mentally and physically, I think is really important

471
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Speaker 2: for him. And so this game I think can be

472
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Speaker 2: sort of a you know whatever, you take it one

473
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Speaker 2: week at a time, but I think that this is

474
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Speaker 2: moving in the right direction. Hopefully there's a snowball effect

475
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 2: from here to get stronger and stronger.

476
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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.

477
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Speaker 2: But the Ravens rotated their tackles. That was the other

478
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Speaker 2: big difference in this game for the first time this season.

479
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Speaker 1: They rotated.

480
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Speaker 2: Patrick McCarey stepped in for Ronnie Stanley for I think

481
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Speaker 2: it was fourteen snaps and fault Leley stepped in for

482
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Speaker 2: Morgan Moses for I believe it was eight.

483
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so.

484
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Speaker 2: John Harwell didn't really commit or not commit to doing

485
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Speaker 2: that moving forward.

486
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Speaker 1: He obviously worked out. I thought the was a good one.

487
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 2: Jody Alisandris was the one who kind of pitched it,

488
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Speaker 2: and the players signed on. And the idea of being

489
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 2: keeping them stronger for the fourth quarter, just taking you know,

490
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Speaker 2: in both those guys, as you've said, Morgan Moses missed

491
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Speaker 2: a couple games with a shoulder injury earlier this year,

492
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Speaker 2: Ronnie with the knee. Just help them with those injuries,

493
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Speaker 2: keep them fresher, a little lighter load, and let them

494
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Speaker 2: finish strong. And I think the plan really worked out well.

495
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Speaker 4: You have Patrick mcarey, who, like you're paying, basically like

496
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Speaker 4: a starter, and he kind of is a starter because

497
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Speaker 4: he's played a ton of snaps this year, but when

498
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Speaker 4: he's not.

499
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Speaker 2: Most importantly, he's played at a starter's level. I mean

500
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Speaker 2: he's had some rough patches too, as any offensive tackle does.

501
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Speaker 2: But you generally speaking, when Pat McCarry steps in there,

502
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Speaker 2: you feel pretty darn good.

503
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And he's back up at every position, and so

504
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Speaker 4: I think the Ravens like finding ways to get him.

505
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Speaker 4: He's your sixth man, he's your six man off the benches.

506
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Speaker 4: So if you can come get him a few minutes,

507
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 4: you know, it's like the three point shore. You can

508
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Speaker 4: come get him a few minutes just to kind of

509
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 4: spell to spell Ronnie, to keep him healthy, to keep

510
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Speaker 4: him fresh.

511
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Speaker 3: I think that's a good thing.

512
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Speaker 4: And then you also have a really good player and

513
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Speaker 4: Pat McCarey, who you're finding a way to get on

514
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Speaker 4: the field.

515
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Speaker 3: So it was a good combination.

516
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Speaker 1: Mix.

517
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 2: You mix up the looks for the for the rushers, right,

518
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 2: you just a new guy in there, it's a little

519
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 2: bit different. They they sit there and they set up

520
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 2: these moves, get time, you know, play after play after play,

521
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: and you start to see the tendencies of the tackle.

522
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: Throw them a little bit of a curve ball every

523
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Speaker 2: once in a while. I think that's you know, also

524
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: could benefit sure, yeah, as a as a former office tackle.

525
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 2: So the last thing I want to talk about here

526
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Speaker 2: in our film breakdown is is Marlin. There's there's been

527
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Speaker 2: a lot of concern about Marlin and you know, gave

528
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Speaker 2: up some some bigger plays on the Rams ensuing drive

529
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Speaker 2: after the Ravens took the lead late in the fourth quarter,

530
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Speaker 2: UH to two big.

531
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Speaker 1: Ones and they kicked the field goal.

532
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Speaker 2: Where's your level of concern with Marlon? What it's your

533
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Speaker 2: feeling when I.

534
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Speaker 3: Mean that was not a good drive for Marlon Humphrey.

535
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Speaker 4: That drive where you know Cooper Coup came with some

536
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 4: big plays and and they moved down the field a

537
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 4: little too easily.

538
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: Well, and Marlin could have had a game winning an interception.

539
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that I will say that interception was It

540
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 4: would have been a really that would have been a

541
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 4: great play.

542
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: I think that, Like you don't think so.

543
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was. I think it was.

544
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: Sure he would have had to jump and catch it.

545
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: But I mean the guy he's looking at it the

546
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: whole way. He was.

547
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 3: The receiver also came out there basically broke it up.

548
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 4: I was on his back, the receivers on his back,

549
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 4: and like there was a ton of contact there.

550
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 3: Like, that's not it. I don't think that's he us.

551
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 2: Here believe that Marlow is like, you know, the ball hawking,

552
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 2: greatest hands in the world. There's a reason why Marlin's

553
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 2: a corner and not a wide receiver.

554
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 3: Yes, no, he's not. He's the first to say that

555
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 3: he doesn't have right hands. I get.

556
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: I also will bet you that if Marcus Peters is

557
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: out there, he's saying, oh my.

558
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 3: God, how did I get that one? Maybe maybe, but

559
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 3: I don't think it was an easy play. I really don't.

560
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 4: I think that the receiver was there and broke it up.

561
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 4: So it was not a great drive by Marlin. I thought, actually,

562
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 4: earlier in the game he played pretty well. He was

563
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 4: flagged for a pass interference on Puka, which I thought

564
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 4: was a bogus.

565
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: Cool hooked his arm and dragged him down on his back.

566
00:23:59,200 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 1: That's a back call.

567
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 3: I thought that was a bad call.

568
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 4: So I thought that up until that last drive, I

569
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 4: thought it was a pretty solid game for Marlin. John

570
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 4: Harball made the point he's like Marlin Humphrey's at least

571
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 4: of my concerns. I put it, like it's a little

572
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 4: bit similar to the conversation we just had about Ronnie Stanley, Like,

573
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 4: this is one of your veteran leaders, one of your

574
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 4: highest paid players, who's dealt with injuries this year, who's

575
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 4: been in and out of the lineup, and you know,

576
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 4: so he missed the last two games with his calf injury.

577
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 4: Now he comes back, and again I thought he played

578
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 4: pretty well, and then at the end it was a

579
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 4: bad drive. But like, he'll get healthier, he'll get more

580
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 4: acclimated to being back. I think we could be having

581
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 4: a conversation a week from now and like throwing out

582
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 4: the stats and being like, Okay, you know, PFF has

583
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 4: some targeted eight times and he gave up one catch

584
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 4: with thirteen yards.

585
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: Kind of be in that way all season for Marlin.

586
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 2: It's it's been a bit of a roller christ to ride,

587
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 2: and I think injuries have played a role in that.

588
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 2: You know, just like we said with Ronnie Stanley, it's

589
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit naive to think that

590
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: players in their first game back on the field are

591
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. It's like the injury never happened. Yeah, right,

592
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: And now Marlin played one hundred percent of snaps. He

593
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: played every snap, so he was physically good enough and

594
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: in good enough football shape to do that. But like

595
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 2: that it's your first game back, you know, I think

596
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 2: that sometimes it can take a little bit of time

597
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: to get back to that previous level, pre injury level.

598
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: I'll say this about Marlin.

599
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 2: I think that I really want to see him make

600
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: some clutch fourth quarter, late game plays and make that

601
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 2: play and when the balls in the air, you know,

602
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: really keep his composure and play the ball well, you know,

603
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 2: I mean, he George Pickens got him for the game

604
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: winning touchdown in Pittsburgh late in the fourth quarter end

605
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: of that game, right, and this could have this looked

606
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 2: like it could have gone the same way.

607
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: And so like.

608
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 2: He's one of the best and best players on the defense,

609
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: one of the team leaders, and I think the Ravens

610
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: need a team leader in that kind of moment to

611
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: step up and make that play.

612
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 4: Sure, and I think that he would like I think

613
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 4: that he's just to get better. I think it's kind

614
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 4: of similar to what we saw with Marcus Williams earlier

615
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 4: this year, where Marcus Williams came back on the field

616
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 4: and was not himself, was not playing at the level

617
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 4: that he's capable of, but was coming back from the injury.

618
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 4: It's not the exact same and that the injury is different,

619
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 4: but I think that I do think that Marlon will

620
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Speaker 4: get back to the level of play.

621
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Speaker 3: That we're accustomed to seeing with him.

622
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Speaker 2: I completely Marlon Humphreys a really, really good football player.

623
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Speaker 2: So like, overall, I'm not too I'm not too worried

624
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 2: about it.

625
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that you know, he's going to

626
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 4: be tested though, and I think that that's where.

627
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: Tyreek Kill No. Treek's a little banged up now, yeah,

628
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean.

629
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Speaker 4: Yeah, like the players down the stretch here, you know,

630
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 4: you can go down the list and looking at the

631
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Speaker 4: guys Kyviridley and you got deep with Samuel, you got

632
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill. So there's like some George George Pickens who

633
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 4: got him earlier this year. So like there's there's some

634
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 4: good receivers that are on this this final stretch of

635
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 4: the season. But I think that quarterbacks could throw at

636
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 4: him just because in past years they haven't really been

637
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 4: throwing at him, they would eat as much. I think

638
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 4: this year they could throw at him knowing that he's

639
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 4: gotten beat at times this year, and so I think

640
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: he's going to know that.

641
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: And Brandon Stevens is on the other side of leading

642
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: the league and most times targeted.

643
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 4: He is, but he's also been playing really well. He's

644
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 4: but Marlon hasn't been on the field that much.

645
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is the most targeted in this passcat I'm saying,

646
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: so he said he's got to change that going forward.

647
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be targeted.

648
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 4: I think that the teams are going to test him

649
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 4: and I and you know, I I like Marlin's chances

650
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 4: of holding up well when teams are going at him.

651
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's think of Breagan when we come back to you.

652
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of roster movement early in the week.

653
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: The Ravens also made a huge announcement today, so we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about all that stuff coming up after this break.

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Speaker 4: All right. So, in terms of some of the moves

677
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 4: that have taken place this week, you know one I

678
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Speaker 4: think that caught fans attention certainly was the at this

679
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Speaker 4: point reported edition of quarterback Malie Cunningham off the Patriots

680
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 4: practice squad. There's naturally a connection. He played at Louisville,

681
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 4: so Himla Lamar Jackson, I know each other.

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Speaker 1: They overlapped for one year, yep.

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Speaker 4: And I know you know that Lamar certainly, you know

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00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: was close with him and was cheering him off from

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Speaker 4: a distance after he got to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: But four year starter at Louisville, I mean he was

687
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Speaker 1: started throughout just like Lamar.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he put up some really big numbers at Louisville,

689
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 4: was a pretty exciting player to watch. There had the

690
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Speaker 4: the difficult task of following Lamar Jackson at Louisville. So,

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Speaker 4: you know, Lamar is just transcendent quarterback and he's the

692
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Speaker 4: guy that had to follow follow himt his footsteps. But

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Speaker 4: I know that they were close. So what do you

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Speaker 4: make of the reports of this move?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very interesting to me.

696
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: This is more of a move for twenty twenty four

697
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: certainly than it is twenty twenty three. I don't expect

698
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: that Malie Kuneham's going to see the field. Obviously, you

699
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Speaker 2: keep your finger stross and he doesn't, right, you know,

700
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Speaker 2: I don't want anybody under center but Lamar Jackson unless

701
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Speaker 2: it's a blowout. Yeah, And so I don't expect that

702
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: he's going to come in here and whatever like assume

703
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: the number two quarterback role. Yeah, because even if Lamar

704
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: were to go down, this is a guy that's brand

705
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Speaker 2: new to the offense, young player. To me, it's a

706
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Speaker 2: developmental player. The Ravens. Tyler Huntley is not on the

707
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Speaker 2: contract for next year. Josh Johnson is not on the

708
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Speaker 2: contract for next year. To me, this is a potential

709
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Speaker 2: number two backup quarterback, backup ti Lamar Jackson in twenty

710
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Speaker 2: twenty four and beyond.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and It'll be interesting to see how the Ravens

712
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Speaker 4: maneuver the roster here, because if they add Malie Cunningham here,

713
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Speaker 4: that gives them four quarterbacks on the active roster Malik Lamar,

714
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Speaker 4: Tyler Huntley, Josh Shahnson. We were debating back during we

715
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Speaker 4: were picking our fifty three roster, whether it's three, we

716
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Speaker 4: were talking about four, Okay, So I don't I would

717
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Speaker 4: be surprised if they just carry four quarterbacks the rest

718
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Speaker 4: of the way. I don't know what the move will

719
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Speaker 4: be there, but I would be surprised if they keep

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Speaker 4: four there.

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Speaker 2: And then I would imagine that Malik Cunningham becomes your

722
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Speaker 2: emergency third quarterback.

723
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll be on the fifty three.

724
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Speaker 2: And then on game days he'll be your emergency emergency back,

725
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Speaker 2: emergency third quarterback.

726
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Speaker 1: And then SNeW Puntley would imagine we'll remains back.

727
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Speaker 4: Wich would mean you had to release one of your

728
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: You don't have to, But I just would be surprised

729
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 4: if they end up keeping four quarterbacks. Earlier this year,

730
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Speaker 4: they did release Josh Johnson and then bring him back

731
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Speaker 4: to the fifty three so he could.

732
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Speaker 2: Be released and signed to the practice squad. That's there's

733
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Speaker 2: potential for that.

734
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll see how that plays out.

735
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Speaker 4: They also, from a roster maneuvering standpoint, a couple jury updates.

736
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Speaker 3: Kyle Hamilton, let me.

737
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Speaker 1: Just hold on one last thing on the league. I mean, really,

738
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Speaker 1: this is right.

739
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Speaker 2: They got Stewphuntley the year after Lamar as an undrafted

740
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: free agent mobile quarterback, a guy who fits kind of

741
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: the same style of Lamar. And that's what this very

742
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: much is, right. This is a cheap, young mobile quarterback

743
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: who can come in and if Lamar Jackson were to

744
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: go down, like they developed Tyler Huntley into a very

745
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: high level backup quarterback, I imagine that that's what the vision

746
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: that they have from Malik hunt I would also say,

747
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: I think it's a very similar kind of situation.

748
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 4: I also think that from a twenty twenty four standpoint,

749
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 4: there's still I would expect a competition. There was competition

750
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Speaker 4: this year for the number two quarterback spot Tyler Huntley

751
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: and Josh Johnson, and it came down to the wire

752
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 4: and at both of them.

753
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Speaker 2: And I'm not sitting here saying, like writ in an ink,

754
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: he's the number two quarterback. He's the backup quarterback for sure.

755
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: He has to earn that by playing well. I thought

756
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: he looked good and he had a good preseason for

757
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: the Patriots, like the kids got potential. And so just

758
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: like I was calling John Simpson when they signed him

759
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: late last year and said, this is a move for

760
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Speaker 2: next year to compete for the starting guard position, I

761
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: think he'll probably win it.

762
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm kind of seeing with this one too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I did a move for the future. So now

764
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 4: it's going back to the injury updates Kyle Hamilton. Everyone

765
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 4: was nervous, Okay, Kyle Hamilton's hadn't been one of the

766
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: best players on the team. So he goes down to

767
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 4: the game with the knee injury. It's good news basically

768
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Speaker 4: day to day is what John Harball said. He's got

769
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Speaker 4: a chance to play this week.

770
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, not a serious knee injury.

771
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Speaker 2: That would that would have been really that would have

772
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Speaker 2: been a tough blow to handle for the Ravens defense

773
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 2: at the the yards per play when he was on

774
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Speaker 2: the field.

775
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Speaker 1: Versus not on the field shot up for the Rams.

776
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so if we'll see if he's ready to

777
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Speaker 4: go this week or if he misses any time. You know,

778
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 4: if he does miss time, you know, we were discussing

779
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Speaker 4: how the Ravens replace him in the lineup. You know,

780
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Speaker 4: I think basically that means Marcus Williams and Gino Sooner

781
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 4: out there.

782
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Speaker 3: So who becomes the nickel? You know, who becomes Is

783
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Speaker 3: it Arthur Mullett. Do you move Marlon Humphrey? You spent

784
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Speaker 3: time talking about him.

785
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 4: Do you move Marlon Humphrey back inside to that nickel

786
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 4: role which he's played at times throughout his career, and

787
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Speaker 4: then put Ronald Darby outside.

788
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Speaker 2: I would imagine the plan A is Arthur Mallett.

789
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Speaker 1: He's played at a high level at times this season.

790
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Speaker 1: For sure.

791
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Speaker 3: He stepped in there on Sunday, right.

792
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Speaker 2: You know, he gave up some he didn't. I didn't

793
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Speaker 2: think he had his best game on Sunday. But you're

794
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: also going against a very talented Rams wide receiver corps,

795
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: by the way, and so that's some tough assignments in there,

796
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: and you're kind of thrown into the fire when you're

797
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Speaker 2: part of the game plan and that's the plan all

798
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Speaker 2: week long.

799
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Speaker 1: It's a little different story.

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Speaker 2: I have confidence in Arthur Mallett, so I think that's

801
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Speaker 2: Plan A. B, I would say is probably moving Marlin

802
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: into the slot and then you use Ronald Darby on

803
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Speaker 2: the outside opposite Brandon Stevens. That would probably be my

804
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: second plan if Kyle Hamilton's is not out there. The

805
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: third move would to be inserting Pepe Williams into the

806
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: slot quarterback role. You know, Pepe has been on ir

807
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: al this season long. His twenty one day window with

808
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: which to be activated to the fifty three man roster

809
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: is set to expire, but the Ravens have moved him

810
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: now to the fifty three, so he's eligible.

811
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Speaker 1: To play now.

812
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: I don't really feel great about a guy who's been

813
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: on the shelf all year long, who doesn't have a

814
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: ton of experience. I mean, second year player, round pick,

815
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: second year player, right, so I don't really want to

816
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: throw him into getting a ton of snaps out there.

817
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: I think I feel a.

818
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Speaker 2: Little bit better about the veteran Arthur Marolett, who's been

819
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: playing all year long. But that's he would be an option,

820
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Speaker 2: I think, and provides depth to step in at slack cornet.

821
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: And to be honest, just on Pepe for a minute,

822
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: I think I think it's good for him to get

823
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Speaker 2: some reps down the stretch here because looking ahead the

824
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Speaker 2: next year, Like we're just talking about, like he's going

825
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 2: to be a competitor for that slot role Arthur Mutts

826
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Speaker 2: on a one year deal, right, Ideally you want Peppe

827
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Speaker 2: Williams to step in and kind of sees a little

828
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: bit more of that slot nickel role and getting some

829
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Speaker 2: reps here at the end of his sophomore season is

830
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Speaker 2: big in that regards in terms of evaluation and just experience.

831
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Speaker 4: But if we go back to like podcast that we

832
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Speaker 4: were doing in April and May, that was kind of

833
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Speaker 4: the conversation is could Pepe be that slot corner yea,

834
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Speaker 4: and a lot of people thought that he would end

835
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Speaker 4: up winning that job. I thought he looked pretty good

836
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 4: last year in Spurts and then he dealt I like

837
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 4: him as a player, Yeah, he's scrappy, he's not scared.

838
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 4: I think that a lot of people like him as

839
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 4: a player. So I do agree with you. Maybe he

840
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 4: cuts his teeth a little bit on special teams here

841
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 4: the final stretch and finds us a little bit of

842
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 4: spot action on defense and then gets a little bit

843
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 4: more comfortable. But if the Ravens need him, he is

844
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 4: now an option in that mix. The other thing from

845
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Speaker 4: a roster standpoint is Devin Duvernet. So he went down

846
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Speaker 4: with a back injury in Sunday's game. Obviously, Tyland Wallace

847
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Speaker 4: took over and we know what happened from there. But

848
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 4: John harwall said that it could be a little while

849
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 4: for Devin DuVernay. He could end up going to injured reserve.

850
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: That's the reports are that is going on injured reserve,

851
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: which would open up that spot for Elie Cunningham. And

852
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: they haven't opened roster spot already. They've been rolling with

853
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 2: fifty two. Yes, that's the spot for Peppe Williams.

854
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

855
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 4: Now they have done some roster maneuvering with guys. They

856
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Speaker 4: always do that with guys coming up with the practice squad.

857
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Speaker 4: Josh Ross's on that last couple of weeks, so you

858
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Speaker 4: know there's always maneuvering that takes place from the practice

859
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Speaker 4: squad standpoint. But Devin DuVernay, if he goes to IR

860
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Speaker 4: as it reports indicate, then that would open up that

861
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Speaker 4: roster spot from Elie Cunningham, and then that would mean

862
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 4: Devin is out for at least the next three games.

863
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 4: You know, maybe he comes back for the playoffs, assuming

864
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 4: it's a long deep playoff run.

865
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Speaker 2: Well, for now, Tyler Wallace is the pump reserve. Yes

866
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Speaker 2: that is confirmed. Yes he earned that.

867
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Speaker 1: Yes. So a lot going on, and amidst all this,

868
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: the Ravens are number one in the afcan Tennessee. It's out. Look.

869
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: I know this is gonna sound, this is gonna sound

870
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Speaker 2: a little jinxy, all right, but I want to make sure.

871
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: I want to make it clear this is not a jinx.

872
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: But it feels like one of those years where everything's

873
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 2: kind of going right.

874
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.

875
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: Like last week during the bye, everybody else in the

876
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 2: division loses. Yeah, the Ravens get a two game lead,

877
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: some breathing room in the division. This weekend, Chiefs lose,

878
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 2: Dolphins lose, Jags loose.

879
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

880
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: All the contenders that your top contenders for the number

881
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: one seed all loose. Now the Ravens are alone at

882
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: ten and three atop the conference. Kyle Hamilton goes down

883
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: with the injury. Twitter's freaking out that it could be

884
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: a major knee injury. Nah, maybe he's back this week.

885
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

886
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: It just kind of feels like the pieces are falling

887
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 2: into place.

888
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

889
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: I think that there's some truth to that. I think

890
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 4: that there's some good mojo. But look now you got

891
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 4: the Jags who are still from me. They're looking to

892
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 4: write the ship after losing too straight. Then you got

893
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: to go on the road Christmas night and play the

894
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 4: forty nine Ers. Then you got to come back here

895
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 4: and play the Dolphins, so like you know, and finish

896
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 4: against the Steelers, and of course finished against the Steelers.

897
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 4: So I do feel like the vibes are great here you,

898
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 4: I hear you. But there's a lot still to do.

899
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: There's regular season. That the crazy part is.

900
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: So the Ravens right now have a fifty two percent chance,

901
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: according to New York Times, of earning a first round

902
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: by right, I like those odds. That's that's the best

903
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: in the conference.

904
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah right.

905
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: But so I if they win all for number one

906
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: seed playoff, you know, first round by all that stuff,

907
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: home field advantage, oh my god, that'd be sick advantage.

908
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that'd be great. If they lose one

909
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: game but still beat the Dolphins. Let's say you lose

910
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers, but you beat the Dolphins, You're.

911
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 3: In, right, You're not just in, You're them on.

912
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: Your number one seed, exactly right.

913
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 2: There's also with the Dolphins loss there's more multiple avenues

914
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: for the Ravens to get the number one seed even

915
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: if they lose two games at this point.

916
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, like now you start bringing in multiple different tie breakers.

917
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 4: If you lose two games and then you finish the

918
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 4: season at twelve and five, the Chiefs could The Chiefs

919
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 4: could also finish at twelve and five.

920
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Ravens can go two and two and still

921
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: get the number one seed if Casey loses one more

922
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: time Jacksonville, Jacksonville loses another time Cleveland another loss, or

923
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: Baltimore wins against Miami or two other losses and two

924
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: other losses by Miami, which, by the way, I know

925
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: that sounds silly. Two other losses to Miami and one

926
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: of them doesn't come against the Ravens. But the Dolphins

927
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: still have the Cowboys and the Bills on their schedule, Yeah,

928
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: and the Jets with red hot Zach Wills.

929
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: And there's also reports there's.

930
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: Also likes that Bryce's on the Zach Wills. Yeah.

931
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: There's also there's also reports of Aaron Rodgers being right

932
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 4: around the corner too, so we'll see if he ends

933
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 4: up playing.

934
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: Don't think he's playing this week?

935
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: No, yeah, right, right, Okay, yeah, but yeah, I mean

936
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: the Cowboys have been one of the best teams in

937
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: the league.

938
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: The Bills.

939
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: They have finish against the Bills, who were just coming

940
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 2: off a big window against the Chiefs.

941
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: Silly.

942
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: Is it conceivable that the Dolphins lose two games even

943
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: if they don't lose to the Ravens.

944
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is.

945
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 4: It is now the easy math here without all those

946
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 4: other scenarios.

947
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 3: It's just went out. If you went out, I understand

948
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: that one.

949
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 4: Just go ahead and take a number one seat, So

950
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 4: just take It's my favorite scenario. And then if you

951
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 4: do that, you have home field advantage throughout the playoffs,

952
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 4: which would be awesome. And as we're talking about homefield advantage,

953
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 4: I do want to make sure that everybody saw the

954
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 4: announcement that we made Tuesday where we shared the next

955
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 4: evolution of M and T Bank Stadium. There's some massive

956
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 4: renovation projects we have planned coming to the stadium over

957
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 4: the course of the next few years, adding spaces for

958
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 4: fans to hang out before during after games, adding some

959
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 4: incredible premium areas on the field, field level clubs and suites.

960
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 4: We're going to be expanding areas of the concourse on

961
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 4: the lower Concourse on the upper Concourse totally like revitalizing

962
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 4: the gate a plot.

963
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: On the upper Concourse, and then the gates, the North Gate,

964
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: the South Gate, and then the East Gate.

965
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: With the Gatehouse.

966
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's another awesome like will be awesome pregame, post game,

967
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: a great indoor space and rooftop kind of Baltimore rooftop bar,

968
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 2: kind of fuel up top.

969
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be sick.

970
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some there's some concert venue.

971
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, on the north side.

972
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, the gate a plaza which is where the

973
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 4: Johnny units and ray Lewis statues are and you come

974
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 4: in that way along Ravens Walk. Ravens Walk is an

975
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 4: awesome atmosphere. This is basically going to extend that and

976
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 4: make a really cool atmosphere right out there in that plaza,

977
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 4: right next to where there's Johnny unitis ray Lewis statues are,

978
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 4: with some basically buildings being built on that side of

979
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 4: the stadium, which is gonna be an awesome, awesome space

980
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 4: and facility.

981
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's gonna be a concert venue there, there's gonna

982
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: be a kind of congregation places, the drink hangout, and

983
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a retail store right there, as well

984
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: as as kind of a Ravens Hall of Fame artifacts

985
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: history kind of area where you can kind of go

986
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 2: back and.

987
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: Check all that stuff out.

988
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 2: So like just really it's gonna be a really neat atmosphere.

989
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: All these projects, some of them the Black Wing, which

990
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 2: is a premium space, a new suite space, is gonna

991
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: be done next year. We're getting the booting right where

992
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: the press box is. We're getting the boot out of there.

993
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: I don't know they won't You're not allowed in the

994
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: Black Wing just ever. Maybe I'll get a tour, you know.

995
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 2: And then the Gatehouse will be completed by the start

996
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: of next year, and then beyond that the project's role

997
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: on the following two years. So huge announcement, really exciting.

998
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: I mean. Mt.

999
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 2: Bank Stadium is already the best game day atmosphere in

1000
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: the NFL in my humble opinion, and even Pat McAfee agreed,

1001
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: best environment in the league, one of the ones that

1002
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: you want to get home with.

1003
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: You an advantage because it matters.

1004
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely matters.

1005
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: And so when you already have one of the best

1006
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: game day experiences, if not the best, in the league,

1007
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: and now you're going to enhance it that much more

1008
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: to really kind of take fans beyond just the seat, right,

1009
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: It's not just like the experience you have in your

1010
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 2: seat now, it's everything around the game, right, Like all

1011
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: the tail getting everything like that is kind of on

1012
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 2: premises now it's gonna be it's gonna be really really cool.

1013
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: The thing is we gotta get out of like our

1014
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: our duties on game.

1015
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: Like if I could just experience I.

1016
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 3: Take a few games off, Yes, yeah.

1017
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: If I could experience this as a fan, that would

1018
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 2: be a okay in my book.

1019
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to take a few

1020
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 4: Sundays off. I'm gonna be feeling a little under the

1021
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 4: weather for a few Sundays anyway.

1022
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening.

1023
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: As always, you can reach us at the Lounge at

1024
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: Ravens dot NFL dot net and we will be back

1025
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 2: with you later this week with our player interview.