1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Up next, out Loud with Johnno called part of the 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: beginning with school. We've been here in all kinds of 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: stories of voter fraud in the twenty election, but it's 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: hard to tell what's real and what's fake news. Today 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: we dig into the facts in search of the truth. 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: This is outloued with Jianno called Weell. Welcome back to 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: Outlow with Gianno Calledwell, I'm very excited to introduce my 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: guest today. You may know him from his media appearances, 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: you may know him from social media, or just a 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: hardcore fact based journalist. His name is John Solomon. John 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: Solomon is an award winning investigative journalists who's work did 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: several prominent publications. Earlier this year, he found It Just 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: the News, a digital media outlet committed to reporting just 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: the facts. He serves as its editor in chief, providing 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: must read news and analysis. Mr Solomon also hosts his 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: own podcast, John Solomon Reports, and he is the co 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: author of the book Fall, Nuclear Bribes, Russia, Spies and 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: the Washington Laws that had enriched the Clinton Biden Dynasties, 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: which came out in July. Let's Go. Thank you, Mr 20 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: John Solomon for joining me today, And I tell you, 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: your expertise is one that I look forward to on Twitter, 22 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: social media and especially when I see you on air. 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: Definitely have your finger on the pulst of what's going 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: on in this election cycle here. There's a lot going on, 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: isn't there. Ho Oh my gosh, hard to believe. It's 26 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: a pleasure to join now. But we'll cover some of it. Yeah, 27 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna dig right in. So what do you make 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: of the outcome of the election thus far? Well, we 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: know for sure that the American electorate was incredibly electrified 30 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: because both sides turned out the vote in a very 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: large way. I mean, if you just take a look 32 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: at President Trump's final results, what seventy four million votes? 33 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: No Republican has ever come close to that in the 34 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: national election. So the President turned out a major vote. 35 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: He turned it out across demographics that don't traditionally vote 36 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: heavily Republican. He turned it out in all the states, 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: and if you believe the final results, Joe Biden turned 38 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: out more. And and that is the question, is that 39 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: really possible? Based on what we know? And so we 40 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: know that there were significant efforts to change the rules 41 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: to make the election less secure to allow ballot's account 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: that we're broken or uncured as they call them. And 43 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: now we have witnesses coming forward summer pole watchers. I 44 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: think the most compelling witness of all is a woman 45 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: named Jesse Jacob in Detroit. She is a lifetime civil 46 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: servant for the city of Detroit. She gave a affidavit 47 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: in the last week that I think is extraordinary and 48 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: it's perhaps the best evidence we have of systemic fraud 49 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: in a city or in a state. And that is 50 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: she said. Beginning in September through the day after the election, 51 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: she repeatedly witnessed and had her boss's instructor as an 52 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: election worker, to tamper with ballots to backdate them to 53 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: make them countable when they shouldn't have been counted, either 54 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: because they weren't in the verified voter file for the state, 55 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: or that they had come in with problems on them, 56 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: or they came in after the deadline. And then she 57 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: was asked to backdate them to make them look like 58 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: they came in before election day and therefore could be counted. 59 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: And when asked the scope of this, she said, just 60 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: on the day after the elections, so November four, she 61 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: thought she saw thousands of ballots that had been improperly, 62 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: fraudently altered in the city of Detroit. And so if 63 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: that is true, if these rules that were imposed by 64 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: unelected bureaucrats and elected bureaucrats, uh, without the state legislature's 65 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: approval in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, if these rule changes 66 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: then resulted in people being able to game the system 67 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: modify ballots, then we may have a form of systemic 68 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: for odd never before seen or detected in an American elections. Now, 69 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: just earlier this year, we had an entire election thrown 70 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: out in New Jersey. I think it's Jersey City, but 71 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: we've never seen one nationally now getting from eyewitnesses saying 72 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: I saw fraud, which is an important part getting to 73 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: the constitutional question that changes were made to the elections 74 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: that weren't authorized by the legislature. Two thirds of the 75 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: evidence is in. What is missing is the identification of 76 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: large numbers of voters who didn't vote but are listed 77 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: as voting, or who did vote and then didn't have 78 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: their vote count because maybe they were Trump supporters. Uh. 79 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: That is a process at just the news we're doing 80 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: right now, we've identified about seven hundred thousand what we 81 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: call high risk ballots, and what that means is these 82 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: are people that are listed as voting in a state 83 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: where they haven't lived for a couple of years, or 84 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: listed as having requested an absentee ballot but then never 85 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: had one counted, and they come from a red area. 86 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: And we're just meticulously calling people day in, day out, saying, hey, 87 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: did you know you're listed as voting you live in 88 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: South Carolina, but you're listed as also voting in Georgia. 89 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: Did you file that ballot? Did you ask for that 90 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: absentee ballot? And we're building a list of people who 91 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: claimed they didn't vote or did vote moren't counted, and 92 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: so we're looking for that systemic fraud. It's one thing 93 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: to have witnesses say I saw a funny business. Is 94 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: another thing to have the states make changes to the 95 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: law that weren't authorized by the legislature and therefore perhaps 96 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: on constitutional The third piece of the puzzle to building 97 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: a voter fraud cases can you find the people who 98 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: either didn't have their vote count fraudently or did have 99 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: their vote count fraudently. And that's a process that just 100 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: to do is that we're doing right now, and that's 101 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: a big undertaking, and I'll sell you. I know that 102 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: there's been hundreds of affidavits of those alleging there has 103 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: been voter fraud. I personally believe that there has been 104 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: voter fraud. If you look at the Heritage database, even 105 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: this year were ay entotate over a thousand convictions of 106 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: voter fraud. So we know that it exists, although the 107 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: media and says that it doesn't. Now, you're a journalist, 108 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: you're not an opinion person. I've seen you on television 109 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: many many times. You don't come off with an opinion. 110 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: You say, this is what the facts say. So, considering 111 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: the fact that we at least can assume that there's 112 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: been voting for other there's been allegations of it, We've 113 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: seen affidavits, etcetera. Is this enough to overturn what we're 114 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: seeing thus far in electoral college in favor of Donald Trump? 115 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: Is this enough what we're seeing thus far? Or do 116 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: you estimate that there could be greater evidence that comes 117 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: to the surface. I think what's in the public realm now, 118 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: we clearly have seen the threshold has been met at 119 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: the court level that unelected and elected bureaucrats violated the 120 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: Constitution and made rule changes that weren't approved by the legislature, 121 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: thus violating Article one section for the Constitution. We saw 122 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: that just yesterday in a ruling in um I remember 123 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: where was Pennsylvania. And so for the first time we 124 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: know that a secretary of State has been ruled to 125 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: have violated the Constitution by making an election change. So 126 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: I think the constitutional threshold has been met where the 127 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: courts can say certain activities have occurred that violate the Constitution. 128 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: And now the question is what was the consequence of 129 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: violating the constitution to get an election result reversed in 130 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: Let's just take Wisconsin for instance, where there were pre 131 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: electoral changes. There's twenty thousand votes separating the candidates. The 132 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: evidence that has to be presented by the president's team 133 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: or the third party litigants that have raised lawsuits in 134 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: these states. They have to be able to show there's 135 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: a preponderance evidence, a likelihood that more than twenty thousand 136 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: votes for Donald Trump weren't counted, or more than twenty 137 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: thousand votes for Joe Biden were fraudulently counted. That don't exist. 138 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: You have to get to that level, and right now, 139 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: that evidence doesn't exist in the public realm. So I 140 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: think you could see the courts being halfway there, right 141 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: all right, we see that these rule changes weren't allowed, 142 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: but now you have to convince the court. In Pennsylvania, 143 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: it's a hundred fifty thousand votes in Pennsylvania twenty thousand, 144 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: and Arizona's you know, about twelve thousand. Somebody has to 145 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: come up and create the evidence that systemically here are people. 146 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: We did a sample of a hundred thousand people and 147 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: we found twelve hundred people that didn't vote. If you 148 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: project that are listed as voted, if you project that 149 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: across an entire populace x amount of votes might have changed. 150 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: That's the sort of data analysis and data proof that 151 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: the courts are going to require, and at this moment 152 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't exist. And it's a tedious, slow process. I 153 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: know because I've been doing it for a week now. 154 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: But you know, I think that once we have a 155 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: group of people that say I I'm listed as voting 156 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: in a state and I didn't vote, that becomes very 157 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: powerful proof to a court. We know the rules were changed, 158 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: We know election observers were kept from observing you have 159 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: to question why would there be a need to keep 160 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: people from observing if everything was on the up and up, 161 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: if you can begin to produce real bodies, real names, 162 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: real voters. You said, I don't live in Georgia, I 163 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: didn't file that absent TV request, I didn't vote, and 164 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: their vote has been counted. Then I think the courts 165 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: intervening apps and that I think the courts will say, listen, 166 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: there are some bad things that went on here, but 167 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: we're not going to reverse the election. Yeah, And I 168 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: think it's it's a really tough situation when you look 169 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: at places like I believe it was a Nevada. It 170 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: was either Nevada Pennsylvania, And I want to be absolutely 171 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: accurate where Corey Lewandowski and Pam Bondi we're looking to 172 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: monitor the counting of the votes um and the judge 173 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: gave an order and the sheriff wouldn't enforce it, and 174 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: you had a lot of folks who pretty much ignored 175 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: the order. And I wonder, from the outside looking in, 176 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of citizens who are watching these things 177 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: every day, and they see where there's legitimate cases of 178 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: voter fraud that are proven, and there seems to be 179 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: no ramifications to what we're seeing, which I mean is 180 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: disheartening as an American citizen and voter to know that 181 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: things can happen, and it almost for a lot of folks, 182 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: especially those of President Trump phil as though that this 183 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: election is being stolen from him. Is there any truth 184 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: to that in your estimation? Do you also? Would you 185 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: agree with those assessments that have been made not a 186 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: lot of folks. Well, listen, there are witnesses that have 187 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: described behavior that in earlier elections overseas. Our State Department, 188 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: the United States government has said this is evidence of fraud. 189 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: What are those pieces of evidence. Let's take the two 190 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: thousand four famous election in Ukraine where a guy named 191 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: Yntakovich came to Priorty became a Russian friendly guy. The 192 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: Americans have always decried that election. When the State Department 193 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: was asked, all right, you say it was a fraud 194 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: general election, how do you prove it? And the State 195 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: Department ambassador came out and said, here's our proof. There 196 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: was turnout of or more in many precincts. We don't 197 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: think that that is physically possible. That's the sort of 198 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: stuff that happens in North Korea or Russia. Uh, that's 199 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: evidence of fraud. Well, in Milwaukee, Just the News did 200 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: a computer analysis obtaining the voter records, Ninety of the 201 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: four hundred awards in Milwaukee claimed to have had or 202 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: greater turnout, in some cases as high as nine. That 203 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: means every eligible voter or nearly every eligible voter voted. 204 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: We know that doesn't happen. So if it was good 205 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: enough for the state department to say voter thresholds are 206 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: an evidence of corrupt corruption or a fraud, why isn't 207 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: it good enough when you have many precincts and boards 208 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: in America that this time around are showing a turnout. 209 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: What's another thing they used? They said, one of the 210 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: biggest signs of potential fraud fraud election is that election 211 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: observers are ejected or prevented from doing their job. But 212 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: we know that occurred in Atlanta, we know that occurred 213 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: in Detroit, we know that occurred in many other locations 214 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: where they're affidavits and some times video footage. If that 215 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: was good enough in Ukraine to declare the Ukrainian election 216 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: of two thousand four, you would assume that what why 217 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: Why aren't American officials just as concerned by this behavior. 218 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: In Another thing that was repeatedly mentioned and raised as 219 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: a concern was the fact that large numbers of absentee 220 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: votes in the two thousand four mail in votes in 221 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: the two thousand four Ukrainian election were allowed to be 222 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: dropped off in places where there was no witness. There 223 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: were these mobile boxes. We now call them zucker boxes, 224 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: because Mark Zuckerberg did a big grant and created these 225 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: boxes all around Philadelphia and Atlanta and other big cities. Well, 226 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: if it was bad for Ukraine to use them, how 227 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: can we be so accepting in our own democracy of 228 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: these sort of tactics. So when you compare what the 229 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: standard has been for the United States for declaring election 230 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: fraud in other countries, and you now see many of 231 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: those things have occurred in our country, you have to 232 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: ask yourself, why is the medium, Why are elected officials 233 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: not asking more questions. Why isn't the FBI uh deep 234 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: down in Detroit talking to people like Jesse Jacob saying, 235 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: all right, you swore out an affidavit under penalty approach, 236 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: a penalty of loue using your job after thirty plus years, 237 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: tell us what you saw who is stuffing the ballots? 238 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: What what? What ballot did you back there? That's not 239 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: going on. The lack of curiosity is what is the 240 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: most extraordinary thing about this election fraud debate. There's incredible 241 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: reasons to look at it, and no one seems to 242 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: want incredibly look at it except for a handful of 243 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: lawyers and you know, reporters, Like I said, just the news, Yeah, 244 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: because I'm not really seeing many reporters even tackle this 245 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: in a very serious way. Now we're not talking about 246 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: President Trump said something on Twitter, so or not I 247 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: need to run with the whatever he said. It's like 248 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: legitimate things that are going on. And as a journalist 249 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: and it is a legal body, we should all be concerned. 250 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to ask you more about that. But 251 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: first here's a word from our sponsor. Now, there's been 252 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: talks about the deep state and those kind of narratives 253 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: for four plus years. I don't know what that what 254 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: the deep state really is outside of individuals who may 255 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: be involved in politics and government, men who may not 256 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: like President Trump and they may do things in their 257 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: capacity to to harm him in a way of his leadership, 258 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: et cetera. So I I can't really speak to that 259 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: because I'm not fully in the know and I don't 260 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: have effects to support that. But in this case, do 261 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: you believe that there is a deep state quote unquote 262 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: effort to toward any ability of President Trump possibly winning 263 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: this election? Was it before after? Maybe? I don't know. Yeah, 264 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: it's a great question, right if If there is, and 265 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: again it's an if, I'm not wanting to make a 266 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: declaration until we can get the facts to back it up. 267 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: But if there was an effort to create fraud in 268 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: the election, if there was an effort to create votes 269 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: that don't exist or weren't legally cast in this selection, 270 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: it would have had occurred months before. There would have 271 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: had to be planning. You know, when you hear someone 272 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: like Jesse Jacob, again a lifetime civil servant in the 273 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: city of Detroit, saying I saw thousands of balance ballots 274 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: being backdated. I saw names being entered into the voter 275 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: verified voter file that weren't verified. Uh. When you hear 276 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: that level, you have to say, well, people, there had 277 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: to be a lot of people involved. At one point, 278 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: I think Jesse Jacob talked about eighty workers working the 279 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: day after the election processing ballots and backdating. That's eight 280 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: people working together. You have to build that infrastructure in advance. 281 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: You have to have those instructions. Someone has to figure 282 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: out how to get ballots that haven't been cast to 283 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: look like they've been cast. Right, So if there was 284 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: an effort, it would have had to have begun months ago, 285 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: weeks and months before the election. And that's where for 286 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: those who see for all or worry about from there 287 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: are concerning behaviors. Let's just go to Wisconsin where, uh 288 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Election Commission, which by the way, is not 289 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: the Wisconsin legislature, it doesn't have the constitutional authority invested 290 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: in it to make election rule changes, but it did anyways, 291 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: It made three rule changes. The first was in Wisconsin. 292 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: There are about two hundred thousand names that were supposed 293 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: to be legally purged from the voter roles because they 294 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: were erroneous, outdated, did not meet the verification tests, and 295 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: the legislature has mandated that happened, and the Wisconsin Election 296 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: Commission chose not to remove those bad names from the list. 297 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: Why would you do that if you're trying to get 298 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: an election that's lawful and has integrity, why not follow 299 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: the purge requirement. That's a legislative legal requirement. That's the 300 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: first thing the Wisconsin Election Commission did. That means there 301 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: could be two hundred thousand people who showed up with 302 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: a ballot or mailed in a ballot who got on 303 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: the verified list, and they were accepted their ballot even 304 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: though they weren't entitled to vote for all the reasons 305 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: that made the list outdated. The second thing that the 306 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: Wisconsin Election Commission did, again, these are unelected bureaucrats on 307 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: a commission, not lawmakers, not the legislature invested by the 308 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: constitution to have this power. They declared, Hey, if you're 309 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: anyone and you don't feel like going out of your 310 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: home because of COVID, we're gonna allow you to declare 311 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: yourself as being permanently homebound, and as a result, then 312 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: you don't have to go out and get a witness 313 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: signature for your ballot. Witness signature is one of the 314 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: most important elements of Wisconsin's voter ID law. There's a 315 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: law that says you can only vote absentee or early 316 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: or by mail when you get a witness, and then 317 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: if not, you've got to show up with the polls 318 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: with your idea. So the legislature set of standard. A 319 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: bureaucrat said, you don't have to do it. Now, how 320 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: many people took advantage of that? Our voter analysis shows 321 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: about two hundred thousand people, or ten times the spread 322 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: of those who uh of the difference between Biden and 323 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: Trump and Wisconsin took advantage of that. So two hundred 324 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: thousand people voted in a manner that was not allowed 325 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: or dictated or permitted by the legislature. The third thing 326 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: that those bureaucrats that the Wisconsin Election Commission did is 327 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: they told poll workers down the stretch, if somebody comes 328 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: in and sent an absentee ballot and they have a name, 329 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: but they failed to put the address in of the witness, 330 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: you can fix it for them. Well, the law actually 331 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin doesn't allow an election officer to make a 332 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: change to a ballot. It's it's called curing a ballot. 333 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: Wisconsin doesn't allow that. The legislature didn't approve it, but 334 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: unelected bureaucrats did. So when you see three actions taken 335 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: in the April May, June July September time frame by 336 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: bureaucrats not elected by the American people, you can understand 337 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: why some conservatives say, Hey, there's a deep state of 338 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: permanent bureaucracy that's acting on its own, with its own 339 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: agenda and not following the law of the Constitution or 340 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: the wishes of the legislature. So we see bona fide evidence, 341 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: confirmed evidence. We actually adjust the news put all these 342 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: memos out so people could see, Yeah, the Wisconsin Election 343 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: Commission really did this. You can read the memo yourself. 344 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: We see bureaucrats usurping the power of the legislature and 345 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: making changes that could have opened the door to fraud 346 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: or invalid votes being counted. And I think that's why 347 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: conservatives talk about a deep thing. It's that sort of 348 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: independent I'm not gonna, uh follow the direction of the the legislature, 349 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: gonna do my own thing bureaucrat That makes so many 350 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: Americans that are conservative worried about a deep state. Let 351 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: me dig in into your response here, because I think 352 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: you've brought some things up that a lot of people 353 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: aren't aware of and have never heard before. And I 354 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: just want to make sure that I'm hearing you correctly. 355 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: Sure you're saying that there's about two hundred thousand ballots 356 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: out there which may have been casted inappropriately, but you 357 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what that number is. And right now 358 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: the spread between Joe Biden and Donald Trump is about 359 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: twenty thousand votes, I think, And because I said what 360 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: you just said, so there's legitimately two hundred thousand or 361 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: possibly two hundred thousand votes that were maybe cast for 362 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, which may potentially being validated. I don't know 363 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: that you have not heard necessarily assert that. It's just like, Okay, 364 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: this wasn't supposed to be done, so it would be 365 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: a legal action that's necessitous in order for those ballots 366 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: to be thrown out. And we don't know who they 367 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: necessarily belonged to, how many maybe Joe Biden, how many 368 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: maybe Donald Trump vote But there's at least, per what 369 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm hearing you say, almost the ability to overturn the 370 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: results the current pending results in Wisconsin. Is that what 371 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: you're saying, Well, I don't want to go that far 372 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: because I don't know what a court or judge has 373 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: in their mind. But what we can say is that 374 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: there are two hundred thousand votes that were cast or 375 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: identified as cast in the Wisconsin election data. This is 376 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: the state's data it's not my data, third data. But 377 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: they identified two hundred thousand people who claim to have 378 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: been permanently homebound as a result of COVID, that requested 379 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: a ballot and voted early in the election. Now we 380 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: know early votes broke heavily to Biden, laid votes broke 381 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: heavily to Trump. So you make an assumption a lot 382 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: of those two hundred thousand patterns fit are a are 383 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: Biden people? Why is that important? A good lawyer could 384 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: come in and say, your honor, here's the memo from 385 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Election Commission. I have these seven members of 386 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: the legislature here to testify today that they did not 387 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: authorize that change in law. And therefore, uh, the bureaucrats 388 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: have made a change in the law not authorized by 389 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: the legislature that violates Section one, uh sorry, Article one, 390 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: Section four the Constitution. We believe you should invalidate all 391 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand people that were allowed to vote this way. 392 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: That is something a lawyer could do. Now how a 393 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: court would rule, I don't know. As you know, courts 394 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: don't like to get in the business of invalidating voters 395 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: of votes. They don't want to be the referee of 396 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: hanging chad. As we learned in UH and if you 397 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: remember the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court didn't throw out 398 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: any votes. It just ordered a recount UH statewide for 399 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: for that and resolve the hanging chad issue. The courts 400 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: just don't want to referee these issues. So that means 401 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: the Trump lawyer is the conservatives, the Republican lawyers, the 402 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: independent activists are going to have to bring to the 403 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: court the names, the dates, the times of people that 404 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: they think voted invalidly or illegally, and then say, we 405 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: can show these people didn't vote their listed as voted, 406 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: they were cast voted, They have their ballots harvested. Harvesting 407 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: is illegal in the state. They have to come up 408 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: with a significant number to convince a Joe saying it's 409 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: so widespread, we've got to do a do over or 410 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: all these votes in this category get thrown out. Now 411 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court did that once. Are any right? On 412 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: just last Friday, Justice Alito said, Hey, all votes that 413 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: came in after November three in Pennsylvania need to be segregated. 414 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: So they've shown a willingness to identify a body of 415 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: votes that could be suspect. But that's a long way 416 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: from then invalidating election results where you have five states 417 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: where Biden is leading in that Trump previously lead in, 418 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it's gonna come down to the 419 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: volume of proof that these lawyers can provide. It's a 420 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: long game. It's not gonna happen overnight. Yeah, agree with 421 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: you on And I want to, I really want to 422 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: talk about these multiple states because I think what you 423 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: did is gave people just a slight glimmer of hope, 424 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: at least around Wisconsin. But we had a guest on 425 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: last week, Tom Finton from Judiciary Watch Judicial Watch, and 426 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: he was saying that his legal argument and he's not 427 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: a lawyer. He made that that statement, and I know 428 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: that I assume you're not a lawyer, Are you not 429 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: at all? Yeah? Right, you can. You can. You can 430 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: read the statutes and you understand what the law is 431 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: and all letting how to interpret it priced on. You know, 432 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: legislators have decided on it. So my question per what 433 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: Tom Fitton said, He said, if people just followed the constitution, 434 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: the constitution says the election should be held on Tuesday. Therefore, 435 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: any votes that came after Tuesday shouldn't be counted. Is 436 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 1: that something that you guys considered in your analysis. If 437 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: that be the case, it almost appears that Trump may 438 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: actually win if that's the philosophy fee in which the 439 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: courts were to ascertain. So I'm just wondering if you 440 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: would have been an assessment. I can understand why Tom 441 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: comes said, because those who read the Constitution strictly could 442 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: say November remains originalists, right, like November three? Yeah, right, 443 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: one of them, absolutely, one of our justices. November three 444 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: means November three, not November, not November seven, not November nine. 445 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: I think if you look at the history of counting 446 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: in America in earlier court ruins, including some in the 447 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: weeks before, the Supreme Court has already kind of signaled 448 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: that it views that votes that come in after that 449 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: were cast before November three are going to be considered lawful. 450 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: It isn't the receipt in date of counting that occurs. 451 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: It's the postmark or date upon which the ballot was 452 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: initially submitted. And we won't hold voters responsible for the 453 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: failure of the postal service or the election workers to 454 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: do it. The November three timeframe has been identified in 455 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: early court rulings, including some this year where you know, 456 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: I remember they gave a three three day okay in 457 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: one state. I can't remember the state. I think it 458 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: was Michigan or Wisconsin. Yeah, you can count for three 459 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: days afterwards. So the courts have signaled they're not going 460 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: to give that strict constitutionalist view, at least not yet. 461 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: I can understand why folks like Tom and others hold 462 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: to that, but I think the courts have already signal 463 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: that's not going to be the way they're gonna play 464 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: this now. Maybe when it gets to the Supreme Court 465 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: with the new Justice Amy Coney Barrett, maybe they'll be 466 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 1: a rethinking of that. But earlier votes this year by 467 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, by the Federal Judiciary and nepellate courts 468 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: seem to have given some leeway that if it's cast 469 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: on the third, meaning that it was sent on the third, 470 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: it should still be counted a few days later. It's 471 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: an interesting debate in America, and I think the bigger 472 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: issue is, after all this, at least half of America, 473 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: maybe more of America, are gonna wonder are we going 474 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: to do this every election? Now we're gonna votes coming 475 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: in nine days after the mansion. I don't think people 476 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: want forever election or and they think they know the 477 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: longer it goes on, the higher degree of fraud or 478 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: cheating it is. I think there's a bigger debate on 479 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: election reform that we need to have. Uh, and we 480 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: tried to have it in two thousand five when the 481 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: Presidential Commission made all these great recommendations. You know, there 482 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: was a commission in two thousand five. It was Jimmy Carter, 483 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: and I forget who the Republican was, but they made 484 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: some really great recommendations that would have stopped a lot 485 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: of the things that we now witnessed today. They warned 486 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: that mail mail balance were highly susceptible to fraud. They did. 487 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: And yeah, and and we you know what, like so 488 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: many things in America, we kicked the can down the 489 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: road and now now we own a rusty can in 490 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: our hand, and we're not really proud of it exactly. 491 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: And I completely agree with you on that that point. 492 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, um have you seen and 493 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of news on the internet. People 494 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: call it fake news, where it could be someone who's 495 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: maybe on a hard left making a an assertion about 496 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: something to do with the voting cases that aren't true. 497 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: We saw where and the Washington Post they said that 498 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: the one postal worker who signed affidavit alleging that his 499 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: boss has told him the back date what came in, 500 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: and then they said that he retracted his claims and 501 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't true, and he did this video saying no, 502 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: that that was true. I never retracted my claim, et cetera. 503 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: So we've seen it on the left. There's been some 504 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: some conspiracy theories on the right too, So we were 505 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: not we're gonna acknowledge that this happened on both sides. Sides, 506 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: but I would say more on the left than the right. 507 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: But that's me. That's me. Has there been any cases 508 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: that have been floating around the internet that you guys 509 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: have debunked. You know, there's this theory that there's a 510 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: program out there called Hammer that can change votes in 511 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: I took a lot of look at this, including back in. 512 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: I don't think Hammer has much merit the allegation that 513 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: there's a secret CIA program and the CIA could change 514 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: our votes. I think the software and the data are 515 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: ten fifteen years old. Technologies and and conversations have long 516 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: moved on that so I don't put a lot of credence, 517 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: for many reasons into to UH, the idea that's there's 518 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: some secret hand changing votes with computers that we can't see. 519 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: I think the more credible and more serious allegation is 520 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: what occurred before our very eyes, at least the ires 521 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: eyes of these observers. We have people saying and listen, 522 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: the oldest form of election fraud is ballot stuffing. It 523 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: still goes on today. You don't need a machine to 524 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: ballot stuff You just gotta get a lot of ballots 525 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: into the box that aren't legal and then trick the 526 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: machine into reading them. And I think from the eyewitness 527 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: accounts that if there was systemic fraud like the stuff 528 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: that Jesse Jacobs talking about, like the election observers were 529 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: talking about seeing, it occurred the old fashioned way, people 530 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: making up ballots and then feeding them through a machine, 531 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: maybe altering the voter file, the verified voter file, to 532 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: add names that weren't verified. We have very clear guidance 533 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: from people who've sworn under oath of how this fraud 534 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: was carried out and UH, and we also know that 535 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: the description of the fraud on election day and the 536 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: day after is is an extension of the rule changes 537 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: that were being done last last summer and fall. You 538 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: have to ask yourself, if we wanted a legitimate election, 539 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: why were we moving things around? Why were we ejecting observers, 540 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: Why were we trying to slip in a change in 541 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: the voting rules. There seems to have been a concerted 542 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: effort to change the rules of the campaign, and those 543 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: rule changes are are governing what election observers and election 544 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: workers like Jesse Jacob said, was then abused on election day. 545 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: I think the roadmap sits in front of us. The 546 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: affidavits tell us what the elite edge, how it was 547 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: carried out in these states. It's all similar Pennsylvania, Detroit, 548 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, Milwaukee, all similar allegations. I think the key 549 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: is now not to get to the theory and the observation, 550 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: but to find the voters and say, find those voters 551 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: is that I didn't vote. I don't think there's a 552 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: mysterious computer and changing election results. I think if there 553 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: is any fraud, and again I haven't confirmed it, but 554 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: it's much more like what Jesse Jacob describes in her affidavit, 555 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: which is old fashioned ballot buck, ballot box, stuffing, finding 556 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of after the fact votes to change 557 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: the vote, you know, paper ballots and running him through 558 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: a machine. So for every Trump supporter who was watching 559 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: the news on election night near seeing it looked like 560 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was gonna win. And I'll be honest, one 561 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: of my best friends works for Joe Biden, is one 562 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: of his finance chairs. He's raised a lot of money 563 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: for Joe Biden. And he he called me thinking that 564 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: the race was gonna go in a different direction like 565 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: everyone else believe. They said, Wow, this thing is looking 566 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: really good. Trump is gonna win a second second term. 567 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, all the votes counts stop, 568 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: and you wonder, you know what what has happened? Now, 569 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: you've kind of laid out a case for us where 570 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: Wisconsin we could potentially see a difference depending on how 571 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: the court rules. And I'm not sure what the Trump 572 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: administration is doing that Pennsylvania. We know that there's been 573 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: a ruling in terms of segregating the votes that came 574 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: in after election day. Um, not sure how you feel 575 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: about Michigan, how you feel about Wisconsin, and how you 576 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: feel about Georgia. Any legal action potentially could take place, 577 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 1: there could make a difference. Yeah, listen, I think there 578 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: are many actions that were taken that the courts could 579 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: conceive as actions taken outside of the constitutional authority of 580 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: the legislature. The question what's missing from the Trump argument 581 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: or from the Trump evidence right now is the proof that, 582 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: all right, as a result of those elections, this many 583 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: people's votes have to be invalidated. When invalidated, that the 584 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: election would go the opposite of the way the current 585 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: vote data is. That's the missing link. And until that's established, 586 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: I don't think the courts have enough authority or evidence 587 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: to overturn the election. That's why it's so important to 588 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: begin to find voters who are listed in these voter 589 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: roles as having voted that didn't vote. I think shadow 590 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: votes that's been described. We know there are lots of 591 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: them that are people saying I didn't vote. If those 592 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: shadow votes exist, finding them, identifying them, making them tangible 593 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: to everyday Americans, to television hosts, the newspaper writers, that's 594 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: to be the thing, because it's very easy for Americans 595 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: to say, are it I just saw Joe Smith. Joe 596 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: Smith looked me in the eye and said I didn't vote. 597 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm telling you I didn't vote, I didn't request the ballot, 598 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: and yet Georgia Secretary of State and Michigan Secretary State 599 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: says Joe Smith did vote from that address on this day. 600 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: That's the sort of thing that's missing from the tangible 601 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: arguments here. And I think until we have that in 602 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: a large number thousands of people claiming that, I'm not 603 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: sure the courts are going to get there, and I'm 604 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: not sure the American people will have much of patience 605 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: to let this debate go on unless you start to 606 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: show me real voters who didn't count or who did 607 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: count that shouldn't have counted. We need to take a 608 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: break now to pay some bills. Use the word for 609 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: my sponsor. Don't go away. Thank you for spending time 610 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: with us today, and I know you have to go 611 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: here soon, but I got a couple more questions. I 612 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: want to ask you if you can give to our 613 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: our listeners here advice in terms of those who care 614 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: about voter integrity. They care about the integrity and our elections, 615 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: whether they be a Joe Biden supporter or they be 616 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: uh Donald Trump support And we have listeners on both 617 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: sides here of what advice would you give, especially considering 618 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: the fact you're saying, Hey, a person would have to say, oh, 619 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: I didn't vote, but there was a vote cast under 620 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: my name. It's the same. Uh. Well, first off, anyone 621 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: who wants there are websites and all of these states Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia, 622 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: try to think of the other big city Arizona. You 623 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: can go to these states and you can run your name. 624 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: If you're somebody who didn't vote and you want to 625 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: go check and see if your name is in the 626 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: system as having voted, you can go to that website 627 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: right now and put your name in, put your data 628 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: birth in, and find out if there's a ballot cast 629 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: under your name. If you find your name, you didn't vote, 630 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: you find your name in there, I think you should 631 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: contact just the News or Gang of three sixty or 632 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: any outlet that's doing the work right now. Let us 633 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: know and we'll try to track it down the more 634 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: people who can. Similarly, if you voted early, you sent 635 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: in your absentee ballot and you want to check to 636 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: make sure it's voted, you account it go on the system. 637 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: If you've mailed in your out on October nineteenth and 638 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: here it is November and your vote is encountered. You 639 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: aren't showing is voting in the state where you are. 640 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: Let us know because then we can go track that 641 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: down for you as well. The way to get to 642 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: this proof there are ways to very quickly whether you 643 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: voted or not to find out whether you're listed as voting. 644 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: If you do that you find something amiss, let someone 645 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: adjust the news dot com. You go to just the 646 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: News dot com, click on the info, butt down the bottom, 647 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: send us an email. Uh set you know, let let 648 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: gangs three sixty where your great podcast is anywhere that 649 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,959 Speaker 1: you are alert us because the larger number of people 650 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: we can check into the quicker we can find out 651 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: if this was systemic or just you know, a couple 652 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: of errors here and there. Okay, now that's important. And 653 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: before we get to just the News and talking about 654 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: your your platform. Uh my last question before we get 655 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: there is about the Biden family. You've done some research 656 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: on what you've seen as corruption on the part of 657 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: the former vice president and his son. Can you walk 658 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: us through what you discovered about Hunter Biden in his family. 659 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: It's a very simple story at thirty thousand feet. Uh, 660 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: the entire time that Joe Biden was Vice president, he 661 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: was the primary foreign policy guy for Barack Obama. President 662 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: Obama always said that, uh, you know, his foreign policy 663 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: idea was just don't do anything stupid. He actually used 664 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: a more colorful word than that, but you get the 665 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: idea that more policy wasn't his primary thing. He was 666 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: very interested in domestic Yeah, and he bought Joe Biden 667 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: on a ticket. In the big crises of the Biden 668 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: Obama Biden air were given to Joe Biden, Russia, Ukraine, 669 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: China being among the three biggest and in the vapor 670 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: trail of Vice President Joe Biden's air force to his 671 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: policy responsibilities in those three countries, his family, particularly Hunter Biden, 672 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: his his son, collected money in the shadows of that 673 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: vapor trail of policy. In two thousand and eleven, when 674 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: the Russia reboots going I'm sorry that China reboot is 675 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: going on and they're trying to open up relations improve 676 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: relations with China, Hunter Biden brings in some businessmen the 677 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: are about to close a deal with him into the 678 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: White House to meet his father. Hunter Biden goes on 679 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: air Force too with his father, introduces him to his 680 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: business partner, and he gets involved in an investment fund 681 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: that was supposed to be one point five billion large. 682 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: In Joe Biden goes in a Ukraine right after uh 683 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: Ukrainians throughout the Russian favorite president had a revolution and 684 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: then Russia retaliated by invading the Crimean region of Ukraine, 685 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: invading the sovereign territory of Ukraine. Joe Biden comes and says, 686 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: here's the best way to get out from under your 687 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: the thumb of Russia. If you're a Ukrainian, Let's build 688 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: natural gas, your own natural gas system. You won't rely 689 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: on Russia Moscow anymore. You'll be independent. Will solve these 690 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: problems going forward. Not three weeks later, what happens. Hunter 691 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: Biden gets added to the board of one of Ukraine's 692 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: most corrupt but also its largest gas company, BRIEFEMTT, and 693 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: he makes millions of dollars there and throughout again and 694 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 1: in Kazakhstan, in Russia, in China, in Ukraine, where Joe 695 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: Biden was running the foreign policy, his son is collecting 696 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 1: business deals millions and billions of dollars millions of dollars um. 697 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: Summer estimated be as high as a billion. But you know, 698 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: large business deals with no consideration to the conflict of 699 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: interest it created, the corruption it created. Uh, Joe Biden 700 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: can't answer the question why his family did that, why 701 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: he didn't stop it, And that reflects not on Hunter Biden. 702 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: It reflects on Joe Biden his failure to stop this 703 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: collecting money to his family. Why he's in charge. That 704 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: used to be called corruption, and all of the media 705 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: now the media tries to justify it and call it 706 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory, but it's not. It's always been corruption, 707 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: it always will be corruption in the American way we 708 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: do things. And Joe Biden's judgment is on trial when 709 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: you hear these things that Hunter Biden did to make 710 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: money off his father's name and off his father's policy responsibilities, 711 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: and you know what's interesting deal. But a White House 712 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: during that time had issues with this as well. This 713 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: wasn't something that just happened in the vacuum where there 714 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: was no consideration as to being the correct the course 715 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: of action. Folks in his administration had large problems with it. 716 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: The question is, and I can see whether the corruption 717 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: expect comes in I'm from Illinois, one of the most 718 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 1: corrupt places in the city in Chicago. So I'm very 719 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: well a lot of governors and mayors that have gone 720 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: to president, city council and exactly state representative, state senators. 721 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: I mean people that I actually because I was lobbying 722 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: for the lobbying in Illinois some years ago and a guy, 723 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: just one had had went to jail for that kind 724 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: of corruption. And it's it's really interesting that all this 725 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: is going on. The question is do you find any 726 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: of this to be prosecutable, whether it be with Hunter 727 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: Biden or Joe Biden, And clearly it seems to be. 728 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 1: As I look around, it seems like the the elite 729 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: and powerful never go to jail. Yeah, there's two. There's 730 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: two departments of justice. There's a Department of Justice for 731 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: everyone everyday characters and Republicans and conservatives, the Mike Flynn's 732 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: of the world. And then there's a Department of just Us, 733 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: which protects all the insiders and illegals in government. And 734 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: you know that, just think of the the insanity of 735 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: Mike Flynn being prosecuted for a false statement that you know, 736 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: the government says wasn't even a lie and not even material, 737 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: and then Andy McCabe making multiple false statements and not 738 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: getting prosecuted at all, and you know, being able to 739 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: sit in a congressional hearing thegether Day with a smirk 740 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: on his face saying we didn't do anything really wrong. 741 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: That that's the difference between the Department of Justice and 742 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: Department of just Us, and time and again people have 743 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: seen that. You listen, the facts will to dictate whether 744 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: what hunter By did was illegal. It's clearly unethical. It's 745 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: clearly a political bad judgment by the Biden family to 746 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: have allowed this money operation to sweep up behind Joe 747 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: Biden's foreign policy. Whether it illegal, whether it's legal or not, 748 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: comes into several things. Did they money, Did they launder money? 749 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: That's one of the things we know. The FBI says 750 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 1: it's investigating. Did they declare all the money they made 751 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: on taxes? Did any money from hunter Biden go to 752 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: his father, like some of these emails the Big Guy? Yeah? 753 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: And if it was reserved for the big guy and 754 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: he took it and he didn't pay taxes on it, 755 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 1: or he didn't disclose it on his financial disclosure for him, 756 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: there could be some crimes. But none of that evidence 757 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: is in a way that we know for sure. There's 758 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: hints of it, there's suggestions of it. It's why Just 759 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: the News has got a lot of work ahead of 760 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: itself and the next four years to look at this issue, 761 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: whether Joe Biden is a president or not. The allegations 762 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: that are in these emails that I started writing on 763 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: in April of nineteen need to be exhausted, just like 764 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: we exhausted the bogus Russia collusion scandal and showed that 765 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: that was a figment of a political imagination and not 766 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: a real criminal case. Wow. And finally, not that you 767 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: mentioned Just the News and thank you so much for 768 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 1: your time. I'm sure my pleasure listeners are very pleased 769 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: with the launch of Just the News. You're changing the 770 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: game of news and investigative reporting. What you see as 771 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: the future of investigative reporting and just and how the 772 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: news the media reports the news. That is such a 773 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: great question, and I think the return the most important 774 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: thing for investigative reporting to do is to return to 775 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: facts and not suppositions, not opinions masquerading as facts. When 776 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: you disassemble the Russia collusion scandal or the other fake 777 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: scandals that occurred during the Trump years, you know everything 778 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: from Russian bounties on soldiers heads and what wasn't proven 779 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: at the time it was reported to the Ukrainian phone 780 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: call where the president allegedly linked to things that he 781 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: didn't actually link when you got the transcript. Facts were 782 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: always the thing that undercut the story. You never want 783 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: to be a journalist that has facts that undercut your story. 784 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,959 Speaker 1: Your facts should be the story. And when you look 785 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 1: at the facts that were most egregiously wrong the last 786 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: four years in investigative reporting, my Michael isikof stories, the 787 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: Washington Post stories, the New York Times famous front page 788 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: story where they literally reported on the front page and 789 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: have never retracted, never retracted this that there were senior 790 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: Trump officials who met with senior Russian officials to hijack 791 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: the election and the US government intercepted that those intercepts 792 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: don't exist, those meetings never occurred. The New York Times 793 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: put that on his front page. Almost all of those stories, 794 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: those investigative scoops were anonymous sources feeding absolute blarnee to 795 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: reporters who then put the blarnee on their news pages 796 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: without doing due diligence. The best thing that can happen 797 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: to investigative reporting is to return to facts and stop 798 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: the anonymous backstabbing, political masquerading and political dirty trick stuff 799 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: that was Russia collusion, Ukraine and all that. Um we 800 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: at just the News made a commitment when we launched 801 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: ourselves in February, we're gonna do something very um unique. 802 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: I call it unbowed transparency. When we write a story 803 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: and we want you to read our story, we want 804 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: you to watch our video, we want you to listen 805 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: to our podcasts. But when we're done, there's a separate 806 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: tab called dig in. It's separate of the stories. He 807 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: moved from the story to the dig in, And in 808 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: the dig in is all of our raw materials that 809 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: we assembled to build the story, the memos we obtained, 810 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 1: the documents we obtained, the evidence proof. Can you imagine that? What? 811 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: And you know, we want to be fact checked. And 812 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,959 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes someone will say something and I love this, Hey, 813 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: most of your stories right, but on page two thirty 814 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,399 Speaker 1: three of that document that you embedded here, I think 815 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: you got a typo. I love that one reader catches us. 816 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: We want to be held accountable. I wish more of 817 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 1: journalism would do that. I wish the people that were 818 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 1: reporting all the bogus stuff from Christopher Steel had gone 819 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: to the intelligence community and anonymous sources and say show 820 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: me the proof, because if they had, they would have 821 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: found out that Carter Page, whose name had been smeared 822 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: as a Russian mole, was in fact the c I 823 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: A asset helping his country. They would have known that 824 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,919 Speaker 1: the transcripts with Mike Flann were perfectly legal. They would 825 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 1: have known that FBI agents had lied to get the 826 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 1: manipulated and actually uh tampered with evidence to get these 827 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 1: bogus fight A warrants. The reporters weren't curious, they didn't 828 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: get the facts, they didn't weren't transparent. We hope that 829 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: just the news. We're starting a trend, which is, don't 830 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: take our word for it, go check our word out 831 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 1: with our own evidence. And I'd like to see more 832 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: reporters do that in the future. Wow, We'll here it 833 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: out live with Giano Caldo, with the sworn enemy of 834 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: PC culture. 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