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Speaker 2: I just think the Chiefs clearly have the forty nine

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Speaker 2: Prove that he's good, he's got to prove that he's loose.

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Speaker 2: We were bullshitting about preparation. I said, how early you

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Speaker 2: But sometimes you can overrevaluate guys because they're high character

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Speaker 2: It's just a reality of the sport. You take ninety

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Speaker 2: which still is not totally for me, is much better

433
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 2: than the training camp hard knocks. But the off season

434
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 2: hard knocks hard pass the giants.

435
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 3: I just don't care.

436
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,959
Speaker 2: But they're not just doing this randomly. People are clearly watching,

437
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: and if you want to watch, I don't blame you.

438
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: I don't understand people and like my profession that talk

439
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 2: shit about other people, fans that like doing stuff, I

440
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: just don't get it. And part of it is I

441
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: got news free of Most people in the media don't

442
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 2: like you guys. You know that they hate the common fan,

443
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: that they don't relate to the common fan. I try

444
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 2: to put myself like I have a lot of to

445
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 2: think a lot actually. I mean I haven't not paid

446
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 2: for a ticket and sat in the stands for the

447
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: last four or five years, and it's been very healthy

448
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: for my for my job because I thought I was

449
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: very insulated when I used to sit in the media room.

450
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 2: It just it's like a little bubble of a lot

451
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 2: of angry people. But listen, if you want to watch

452
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: off season hard necks, hot hard knocks, have at it.

453
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: I gotta say it's a hard It's a hard pass

454
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 2: for me. Okay, Fugazi Friday wanted to dive into some

455
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 2: Fugazi Fridays. Randy Travis just came out with a new

456
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: song that is a I generated. Do you think we'll

457
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 2: see more Fugazi or AI generated songs from dead artists?

458
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 2: Pretty sure Randy Travis is still alive. Could be wrong.

459
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: I know he's been really sick. I'd be lying if

460
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: I said I was that deep in the AI world.

461
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: I mean I listened to like podcasts people talk about

462
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily use it yet, like I'm sure some

463
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: of you use it like I don't have an AI

464
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: personal assistant. I don't really use chat GPT that at all.

465
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: Maybe I should start using it. But one thing I

466
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: listened to a podcast.

467
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 3: With one of the leading guys the All In podcast had.

468
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: Forget the guy's name, Sam Sam something on talking about

469
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: what they do with artists and how everyone gets compensated

470
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 2: when it.

471
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: Comes to artists.

472
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 2: I think a huge reason that I love music is

473
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: when you listen to a song and it like strikes

474
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: you in your soul, and that person's singing that song,

475
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: and the best.

476
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 3: Part about music.

477
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: That could be something from the sixties, that could be

478
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: something from twenty twenty three that you're just like, this

479
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: hits home, this moves me, and you know that comes

480
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 2: from a human being. And then as time goes on,

481
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: that person talks about how he wrote the song, how

482
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: whatever he was going through influence that part of the song.

483
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to sound like old man, get off

484
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 2: my lawn, but I just don't see how computers can.

485
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 2: Obviously they can generate the sound. Obviously they can create

486
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: things that sound just like Randy Travis or Nirvana or

487
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: whoever they're gonna be able to do it. All who

488
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: knows they'll be able to do a podcast that sounds

489
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 2: just like me, but they can never be me, just

490
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 2: like that person could never be Randy Travis or Kurt Cobain.

491
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 3: Or whoever elvit.

492
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: You go the history of music, and I'm not gonna

493
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: get on board with that. But you'd be naive to

494
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: think little kids watch other people play video games on

495
00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: YouTube that is extremely popular. If you would have told me,

496
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: and like most kids in the nineties, I love video games.

497
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: That was like a huge expansion time. As you know,

498
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: we went from Nintendo to PlayStation, Nintendo sixty four and

499
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: Sega and then to where we are today, where the

500
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: graphics are incredible. I'm not a video game player anymore,

501
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: but if you would have told me that people would

502
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: love to watch other people play video games on television,

503
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: I never believe you. So things change, and some things,

504
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: like I said, just aren't for me. And maybe that's

505
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: one of them. Because my unborn children, maybe their favorite

506
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: artists are gonna be the from the computer and I'll

507
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: just have to pretend to like it, I guess in

508
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: the car, unlike my dad, who if he hated the tape.

509
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm old enough where you put in tapes

510
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: and show or probably many of you listening, he would

511
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,719
Speaker 2: like throw it out the window. Probably shouldn't have been littering,

512
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 2: but I definitely had a tumble. I remember one time,

513
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: I think like it might have been a CD. One

514
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: of the first CDs I ever bought was Doggy.

515
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: Style Snoop Dogg.

516
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 2: You know on tower record you had to like no

517
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: a guy at the front because if they had the

518
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: parent advisory on the front, they wouldn't sell it to

519
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 2: you if you were like thirteen years old. I remember

520
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 2: buying it and I left it in my dad's truck

521
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: and then we got in and let's just say he

522
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: wasn't feeling it after Snoop dropped about seven f bombs.

523
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: Great album, one of the greatest rap albums ever.

524
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 3: What's Up John?

525
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: My Fugazi Friday Submission is now unnecessary? Apps have become

526
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: for elementary transactions. I went to do laundry at my

527
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 2: apartment washer dryer. The machines used to have a standard

528
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: payment pad where you could swipe or tap your cart,

529
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: or you could insert coins. We've all been there, baby

530
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: for years. Never had a problem. You just put in

531
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: some quarters and do a load. One day, they decided

532
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: to take out the card reader and replace it with

533
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: a QR code. Now you have to download the app

534
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: for the washer and put money onto the app, then

535
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: take a picture of the coat. And half the time

536
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: the Bluetooth doesn't work on the damn machines and I

537
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: have to restart my phone. Keep in mind the machines

538
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: are not new, and they raise the price per load.

539
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: There are no ads on the app either. What the

540
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: hell is the point? Yeah, man, I one thing I've embraced.

541
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: I was telling Colin this the other day. The amount

542
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: of things in my home connected to the phone is

543
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: it's borderline uncomfortable. And one thing I definitely notice is

544
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: all my TVs in the house. My remote is my phone.

545
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: We have one hard remote, but I mainly keep in

546
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: the living room and honestly we never use it, which

547
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: like not that big a deal, But sometimes you're laying

548
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: in bed, it's like, I don't want to touch my

549
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: phone at all, but the only way to turn off

550
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: the TV.

551
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: Is your phone.

552
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: And then you think about like from my garage to

553
00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: my blinds.

554
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: I just got this pool cleaner.

555
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: It's all an app. The little rumba thing I got

556
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: the vacuum. So if we all have seven, eight, ten

557
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: things us an app think of where we're going to

558
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: be in five years. So I guess my pushback here

559
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: is we can complain about it. The reality is the

560
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: majority of our life, we're only at the beginning of

561
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: this thing is going to be on the phone. It's

562
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: not going away. The hard transaction or just the hard

563
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: manual press a button and you have to hold something

564
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: is a dying thing. And if you think it's a

565
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: pain or a problem, now, if you view it that way,

566
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: buckle up, because it is only the beginning. So I'm

567
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: at the point I kind of embrace it. It just

568
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: kind of is what it is. Just the way the

569
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: world is going. We're not going back. Fugazi Friday College

570
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: football coaches salaries ranked in order of what he basically

571
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: just goes Harbaugh, Smart, Kyle Whittingham, Kelly, Dabo Lane. All

572
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: of their base salaries are pretty low, between like one

573
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: point two to five hundred k, but they all are

574
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: top in bonuses, making them, you know, eight to ten million.

575
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: Dollars a year.

576
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: Here are the top Fugazi's no bonuses earned. Mel Tucker

577
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: buyout ninety million, Jimbo Fisher buyout seventy seven million, Luke

578
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: Fickel buy out thirty nine million, Venables buy out thirty million,

579
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: Nardoozi twenty eight etc. The crown jewel of Fugazi's Matt

580
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: Rules zero bonus paid sixty two million dollar payout. You know,

581
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: the biggest uh mismatch maybe in America right now is

582
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: these academic institutions who are dependent on football because of

583
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: the money it generates, are run by a president who

584
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: I wouldn't exactly call Jeff Bezos or Steve Jobs when

585
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: it comes to doing deals, well, Jimmy Sexton, who represents

586
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys, negotiates contracts for a living.

587
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: That's what he does.

588
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: His whole life revolves around that contract and the money

589
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: involved in that contract. Where these presidents that is not

590
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: their priority. They're running these massive institutions that revolve around academics.

591
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: So you could say he negotiates with an athletic director

592
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: who most athletic directors google how they came up, or

593
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: like marketing guys started in ticket sales. They have no

594
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: chance against Jimmy, but ultimately they have to go through

595
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: either a board or the president or a combination of

596
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: both who are very academically driven, and one thing is

597
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: very consistent, and Jimmy's not alone. There are more agents

598
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: that represent these coaches. They get fucking dominated. It is

599
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: not a fair fight. It's why when Drew Rosenhaus tries

600
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: to negotiate against Howie Roseman or Omar Kahan or whoever,

601
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: those guys have been dealing in specific contracts for what

602
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: they're dealing with for a long period of time, and

603
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: it's just it's almost like, if you ran Nebraska or

604
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: ran Ohio State or whatever, you should essentially have a

605
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: cap guy who is focused on your sports teams. So

606
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: when Jimmy comes in, you can say, no, not doing that,

607
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: or no, we don't believe yet, but that's not really

608
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: what happens. He simply bends them all over. And it's

609
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: not a coincidence. It really isn't. It just isn't because

610
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: he's good at his job. He is, but it'd be

611
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: like Nikola Jokic going up against some high school center.

612
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: It's like, good luck, buddy.

613
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: And it's why every one of these contracts all look

614
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: the same. They're very one sided. It's a consistent theme

615
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: because academia negotiating against someone who does these contracts, even

616
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: if they negotiate contracts for other things. Clearly they don't

617
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: have a good feel for this because they get worked

618
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: Fugazi Friday people who don't fucking slow down in construction

619
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: or school zones. I slow down, and most of the

620
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: time someone tailgates me, then angrily pulls around and passes me.

621
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 3: WTF.

622
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: One thing I've done in my older age, because like

623
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: a lot of young people, you get very mad on

624
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: the road. You just scream and you know, definitely tailgate

625
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: guys and just do stupid things. I do the opposite now.

626
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 2: When someone does that, I just try to justify it

627
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: in my head. You know, maybe they're rushing home to

628
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: their sick child, maybe they're headed to pick up their.

629
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 3: Wife at the airport.

630
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't care. Now. The school

631
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: zone thing, I agree, especially around if you're driving by

632
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: a school zone in the morning or the afternoon when

633
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: they're picking up, like slow down. But one thing about Arizona,

634
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: I feel like everyone on the road feels like they are.

635
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 3: Lewis Hamilton or Dale Earnhardt.

636
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: It is crazy how fast people drive and how aggressive

637
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: people are, and for the most part is let them go.

638
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 2: I just I don't care, and I'm not exactly slow

639
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: on the roads, but I've gotten to the point I

640
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: guess my reaction to you, to your statement, I just

641
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: don't care. You know, I'm like a football coach just

642
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: worrying about me. We're just focused on my car. We're

643
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: just trying to get where I'm trying to get. I

644
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: can only control myself. That's what I tell myself. That

645
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: that was my sec football coach Fugazi Friday. Duck sauce

646
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: packets at Chinese takeouts is right up my alley. When

647
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: you order Chinese takeout and you get two packets of

648
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: duck sauce, which is well short of the amount you need.

649
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: Then when you ask for more packets, I often get

650
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: a look like I'm trying to steal money from them,

651
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: and they do give me more packets. It's like one

652
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: or two max. Nothing bothers me more. As a big

653
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: sauce guy and a very fat guy at heart, is

654
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: not getting enough sauce. Now, when when you pick something up,

655
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: you know if you tip them when you pick it up,

656
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: which is always a hot debate on this show. I

657
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: don't feel bad about saying more that's not enough.

658
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: I need more.

659
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 2: One key as a door dash Guy or Uber East

660
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: or whatever you may use. When you order something online

661
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: and getting it delivered and you want more sauce, whether

662
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 2: it's ranch, whether it's duck sauce, or whatever you need,

663
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: you know what the move is because in special instructions,

664
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: let's face it, they read it ten percent of the time.

665
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: You call in and say, hey, I'm John. I just

666
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 2: ordered chicken chow mane, broccoli, beef rice, potstickers, and miso soup.

667
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: I need eight extra sauces. I will have no hesitation

668
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: doing that key move, zero shame when asking for extra sauce, because,

669
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: as anyone knows, sauce can definitely make a meal. I

670
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: don't think I'm too locked into duck sauce. Recovery shoes, slides,

671
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: got a fougazi for you. They're selling these things for

672
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 2: eighty dollars to wear after you work out. There is

673
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 2: no such thing. They are just fucking shoes. Maybe I'm

674
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: out of the loop. They have post workout shoes. I

675
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: didn't know that. If I go to the gym and

676
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna shower there because I'm gonna use the steam

677
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: room in thesauna, I just bring an extra pair.

678
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: Of shoes or sandals or whatever.

679
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: What shoes post workout do you put on your feet

680
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: that make it easier on your feet? Maybe I'm just

681
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: out of the I've never even heard of that.

682
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: Does that exist?

683
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: They sell post workout shoes for eighty dollars? Why wouldn't

684
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 2: you just bring your own shoes? Is that really a thing?

685
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: I honestly I don't. I don't know never I've never

686
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 2: been offered that or even seen that online. Maybe I'm

687
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: out of the workout loop in terms of the current trends, cause,

688
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: like I, like you said, I thought they're just shoes.

689
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: Slides Are the extra easy on your feet? Is it

690
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 2: because like you're doing dead lifts or squats?

691
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: I don't know.

692
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: I can't say I've ever heard of that. But I'm

693
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 2: with you. That is a major, major scam, And maybe

694
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: I'm wrong. Maybe I'll have some workout guys say, well,

695
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: there are actually these benefits. I just put on a

696
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: different pair of shoes after I work out in my

697
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: sweaty ons that are currently falling apart. Okay, Middlecoff mail

698
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: back time at John Middlecoff Instagram. Fire in those dms

699
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: start with Sean in the beginning, you agreed with the

700
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: Falcons drafting Michael Pennix. Later you felt it was not

701
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 2: a good idea.

702
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 3: What made you change your mind.

703
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I ever agreed that it was a

704
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: good idea. I don't remember that take at all. I

705
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: thought it was one of the most outrageous things in

706
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: the history of the draft then now today. And I

707
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: like Michael Pennox, But to draft a quarterback who's ready

708
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,240
Speaker 2: made when you just paid a guy one hundred million dollar,

709
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. It still makes no sense to me, even though,

710
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 2: like I always understand the logic of thinking big picture

711
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: and everything that goes along with it. But to draft

712
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 2: Michael Pennix, a twenty three to twenty four year old

713
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: plug and play starter. Now, I don't know if he's

714
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: going to be good or not, but he's not some project.

715
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: While you just gave a guy forty five million dollars

716
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: a year and guaranteed him over one hundred million dollars.

717
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 2: It's not very logical to me, and it's just kind

718
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: of represents not everyone's on the same page. I'm sorry,

719
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: it just doesn't. You know, the coaches fell in love

720
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: with them because they get in love with involved with

721
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: the draft process. Later the owner wanted it just not

722
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: everyone's on the same page, and.

723
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I really don't know what else to say. Besides,

724
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: I thought it was stupid.

725
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I really and I like Michael Pennox. Honestly,

726
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 2: if you told me, would you rather have cousins coming

727
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: off Achilles for the next four years or just take

728
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: your chances with Michael Pennix, I would just take my

729
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: chance with Michael Pennock, especially on a rookie contract. I

730
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: really enjoyed watching you and Colin talk about the schedule.

731
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: I did a little research and noticed that the Niners

732
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: have four games against teams coming off of bye Kansas

733
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: City off of bye week seven, Dallas off of bye

734
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 2: week eight, Seattle off of bye week eleven, and then

735
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: the Bills off of bye week thirteen. And they get

736
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: New England coming off a Thursday game. MANI bye week four.

737
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: I know they suck, but it's still extra rest prep time.

738
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 3: Is the league?

739
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: If the league is always intentional with what they do,

740
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: what do.

741
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: You make of that? It's a good question.

742
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: I I don't really have a theory on the league

743
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: trying to screw the forty nine ers here I think

744
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: when you're trying to mix and match all these schedules,

745
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers are playing the most primetime games

746
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: with like the Jets and the Chiefs, sometimes you.

747
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: Just get a little screwed.

748
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: Now, the problem is with the teams, Like you said,

749
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: it's the Chiefs, the Cowboys, and the Bills. The Chiefs

750
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl and beat the Niners. The Cowboys

751
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: won twelve games, and the Bills won the division again

752
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: and won a playoff. I mean that's tough. Like you said,

753
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: the Patriots whatever, I don't give a shit, but that's

754
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: a challenge. I don't think it was intentional. I just

755
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: think you have some of this stuff, and I thought

756
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: the Niner schedule opens up pretty easy. You're always when

757
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: you pull a first place team, you're gonna get first

758
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: place opponents. And yeah, I mean their AFC game is

759
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. They also play the AFC North, which is

760
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: good because of the Lions and the Bears, or excuse me,

761
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: the Lions and the Packers, and if the Bears are

762
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: solid like that, that's not an easy division to play.

763
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: But I don't necessarily think there's any logic thought behind

764
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: the league going you know what, let's really try to

765
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 2: slow down this forty nine er operation and give them

766
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: the bills, the Chiefs and the Cowboys off buys. You

767
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: know what the league likes. They're television partners to be happy,

768
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: why so they can get more money moving forward, And

769
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, when they're good, draw enormous ratings.

770
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: So I don't think there's any malicious intent. I just

771
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: think sometimes it's the way the cookie crumbles.

772
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 3: Love the show.

773
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: Lifelong Cowboy fan living in New York City, I consider

774
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: myself a realist, Unlike ninety five percent of Cowboy fans.

775
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: The weed and boys thing drives me insane. Anyway, the

776
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 2: Niners have Bang Bang Niner gang. I like you, forty,

777
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: but that also drives me nuts.

778
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 3: But it is what it is. People, I can have

779
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: some fun anyway.

780
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of talk about the Cowboys running

781
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: back situation, and I honestly think they're in a better

782
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 2: situation now than last year. People forget just how mediocre

783
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard was. There were plenty of instances where I

784
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: thought Rico Duadle was the better early down back. Is

785
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: that your special teams guy from South Carolina? Also, the

786
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 2: Cowboys weren't incapable of running the ball on goal line

787
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: all season. I believe the Cowboys missed Zeke tremendously last year,

788
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: not only for a short yardage running, but his ability

789
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: to pass protect honestly a part of his game that

790
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 2: does not get talked about.

791
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 3: You know why.

792
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: It's like defense in the NBA, all we talk about

793
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: is catching passes and running the ball. Yet pass protection

794
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 2: is literally protecting the highest paid guy on the team,

795
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: and no one gives it any respect beside coaches and

796
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: GMS fans don't give a shit.

797
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 3: Hell, I complained about it.

798
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, why is this guy not playing?

799
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: And then you do a little research text a buddy

800
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: in the league, They're like.

801
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't pass protect not only honestly a part

802
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 2: of his game. Okay, this year, with the question marks

803
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: on the offensive line, it's even more important to have

804
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: Zeke back there for the reason for this reason and

805
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: also be able to run the ball in short yard situations.

806
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

807
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I Tony Pollard got his leg snapped in

808
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: the playoff game, right, but I think by Drake Greenlaw

809
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: on a it would have been a hip drop tackle

810
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: now and he clearly was not only not the same

811
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: guy last year. But I think it brought to light

812
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: that some players, and this is not a knock on

813
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: any guy in Tony Pollard situation, are incredible second options.

814
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: It's like this in life.

815
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 2: Some guys are meant to be the COO or the

816
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: number three guy in a company. Not everyone can lead

817
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: the fucking thing. And he's not a lead back. He's

818
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: an incredible extra guy, and he was awesome two years ago.

819
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: I remember last year. I'm not a huge fantasy guy,

820
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: but I listened to a fantasy podcast here and there

821
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 2: just to get some nuggets talk about in the pod.

822
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: It felt like a lot of people were gonna draft

823
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: him number one overall. I mean, he was a guy

824
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 2: in a lot of fantasy leagues that was going very,

825
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: very high for a lot of money. And I think

826
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 2: the problem with Zeke is is his speed is greatly diminished.

827
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 2: Now high end speed for running back.

828
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 3: Is very overrated. It's not needed.

829
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 2: How often are running back's plusing fifty yard runs. It's

830
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: the least important attribute. The Adrian Peterson's are an outlier,

831
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: but you do need to have explosive characteristics in short areas.

832
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: And when you watch Zeke, he looks like a slower back,

833
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: but from a skill standpoint of reading the hole catching

834
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: the ball, he's a very skilled player. But when running

835
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: backs legs go, it's a problem. So if all you're

836
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: signing this guy is for short yardage and pass protection

837
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: because he can catch the ball out of the backfield, Okay,

838
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: it makes some sense. But who on a given game

839
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 2: is going to carry the ball for sixteen attempts eighteen attempts?

840
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: Like you do need that player on your roster, and

841
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: I think that is unknown because Zeke, if you give

842
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: him sixteen eighteen carries like old, you guess his yardage

843
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: would be forty yards. You can be a winning player

844
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: as long as you're in the right role later on

845
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: in your career, which ideally Zeke will be in. But

846
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: to me, the running back position, you know, when you

847
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: get a high end guy, you know the elite players, obviously,

848
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: they make a huge difference. If you got kind of

849
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: a random group that like garden center, is the easiest

850
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: to find. You can pluck a guy off a practice squad,

851
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 2: you can find a guy that gets cut. You can

852
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: find that position. It's not like you're not gonna find

853
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: random edge rushers. You're not gonna find random quarterbacks in

854
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: training camp.

855
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 3: You can find running.

856
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 2: Backs die Hard twelve here aka Seattle Fan. Any thoughts

857
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: on Ted Nawin's piece in The Athletic Do you think

858
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: Mike McDonald can turn the Seahawks around and make them

859
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: a legitimate contender in the NFC West against the Niners Rams.

860
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 2: If so, how long do you think it would take?

861
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 2: In fact, how long does it typically take for players

862
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: to adjust.

863
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 3: To the new coaching staff and schemes. It's a good question.

864
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: Anytime you get a coordinator who usually if you get

865
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 2: a head job, you are a star coordinator. And Mike

866
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: McDonald was, as many called him in Baltimore boy genius.

867
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: Him and Ben Johnson were the two best non head.

868
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: Coach coordinators in the league last year. He was a.

869
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: Badass, but being a head coach is dramatically different. And

870
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: Seattle's defense the last couple of years has mainly been putrid.

871
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: It hasn't been good.

872
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 3: Now.

873
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: They invested a lot in Jamal Adams and that was

874
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: a disaster. Their pass rush has not been nearly what

875
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: it was, and they've invested a lot of picks on

876
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 2: defense over the year and it hasn't quite worked out.

877
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: So you go, Okay, could the defense be better? And

878
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: we say that a lot of the time, But just

879
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: because you were a great coordinator doesn't mean it immediately

880
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: translates on. Sometimes it does, right McVeigh did, Lafleur did,

881
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 2: Kyle did. It happens a lot with offensive guys. But

882
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: I think sometimes defensive guys because they're spread more thin.

883
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 2: As a head coach, like, I don't obviously they're not

884
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: going to look as good as Baltimore did.

885
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 3: Last year, but we go, oh, they're gonna be better.

886
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 2: Well, maybe it's not like Pete was the village idiot.

887
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 3: Last time I checked. He was a Hall of Famer

888
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 3: on defense, Like he's a defensive coach. That's his baby.

889
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

890
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: I like anyone with a brain like Mike McDonald a lot.

891
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 2: How could you not? But a lot of people are

892
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: very bullish on Seattle. I gotta see it first, and

893
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: I say this over and over and it sounds like

894
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: I'm a hater.

895
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 3: The guy's a great story. But Gino fucking smister quarterback.

896
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 3: I mean, the Niners have.

897
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: Smoked him for about the last couple of years, Like

898
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: he's do you feel good about winning a big game

899
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: with him against Stafford and McVeigh or Purdy and Kyle, because.

900
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 3: I have a hard time seeing it.

901
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: I think one thing they got to figure out big

902
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: picture is the quarterback position. And I mean they trade

903
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: for Sam Howell, I might see what we got in

904
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: Sam howl. And I'm not acting like Gino deserves to

905
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 2: get benched or whatever. I'm not saying start Sam Howel

906
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 2: week one. But I think we've seen the ceiling on

907
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: the team. Love the show listen every day. My question

908
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: is do you think the Packers should extend Jordan Love

909
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: this year? After seeing golf get fifty three million dollars,

910
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 2: I am curious what the market value for a guy

911
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: that has only played at an elite level for eight games.

912
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: I think he's one of the most fascinating guys in

913
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: the NFL. Because if you're I said this, I think

914
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: yesterday on my schedule pod, If you're the Packers right now,

915
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: would you you would put in front of them three years,

916
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars, guarantee every penny, basically averaging out

917
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: thirty three million dollars a year. But if you're Jordan Love,

918
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: and I think it's safe to say at this point

919
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 2: you'd probably have some pretty good self belief. You go, yeah,

920
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 2: let's play this out. Let's see how this goes. And

921
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: I've said over and over, if he plays like he

922
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: continues to look like he did last year, giving him

923
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: the Jared GoF contract wouldn't be that difficult. But I

924
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 2: got to use, like the first eight games if he's

925
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: not gonna sign a very very team friendly deal, which

926
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: is still a lot of money, but relative to quarterbacks,

927
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: I think, if you're Jordan Love, you go, let's watch

928
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: these first eight games, and if he does it in

929
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: another eight games. I wrote down their schedule yesterday obviously Philly,

930
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: then the Colts, then a couple weeks the Rams, then

931
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: the Texans, then the Lions, and if he's looking like

932
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: he did last year against these teams, then I would

933
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 2: just break him off in the middle of the season.

934
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: So it doesn't I don't see why he would be

935
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 2: inclined to do anything right now that wasn't for a

936
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: huge number, and it doesn't make sense for the Packers

937
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 2: to do it right now, just because, like you said,

938
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: it's only been eight games at a really really high level. Now,

939
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: if he's going to play at that level, he's a very,

940
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: very valuable commodity.

941
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 3: I mean, very, very valuable, but my guess is they

942
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 3: play it out a little bit.

943
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 2: Huge fan of the pod. I wanted to hear your

944
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: opinion on a recently article that dropped. I pasted the

945
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 2: link below. The article discusses new reports that Bears quarterback

946
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 2: room with Fields Foles and Andy Dalton was effing toxic

947
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 2: as hell. Apparently Justin wasn't open to being mentored by

948
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 2: Foles and the two couldn't stand one another. I wanted

949
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: to get your opinion on how a seemingly high character

950
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: guy could have so many issues in the quarterback room.

951
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: I don't know how well you knew Nick Foles during

952
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: your time with the Eagles, but I couldn't imagine Nick

953
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 2: being a problem in this situation. Could you speak on

954
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: how this report should be interpreted. I haven't read the article,

955
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: I've heard people talking about it, and i've heard the

956
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: main points. I would say this, you can be a

957
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 2: high character, good person and view your situation as kind

958
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: of getting screwed. Like I don't necessarily blame him as

959
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: a rookie when he gets drafted eleventh overall and he

960
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 2: comes in with Andy Dalton, he's trying to beat Andy

961
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: Dalton out and then the following year they or was Foles?

962
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 2: Was it Andy Dalton and then Foles the following year.

963
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 3: Maybe Foles? Did they overlap? Was it both those guys.

964
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 2: I'm kind of confused on the timeline now, like that

965
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: would have been his first year. He's trying to win

966
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: the job.

967
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 3: I don't know.

968
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 2: I don't put much stock into it. Also, when you're

969
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 2: young as a rookie, you haven't heard any of that stuff.

970
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: The last couple of years, I think we all can

971
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: be kind of know it alls and egotistical is probably

972
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 2: the wrong way to put it. But I know Foles

973
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl, but it's not exactly like Peyton

974
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: Manning or Tom Brady.

975
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 3: You're telling him he views himself as better than Nick Foles.

976
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 3: We could argue if that's.

977
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: True or not, But like what you do at twenty one,

978
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: twenty two years old, if you're different at twenty five,

979
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: like welcome to being a guy.

980
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 3: We grow, we mature.

981
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: That definitely wasn't a knock that polls and Eberflus had

982
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: on him. And one thing's pretty clear with Poles is

983
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: he values character a lot. So I wouldn't put much

984
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 2: into it. It's kind of irrelevant, and who cares. He's

985
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: not your quarterback anymore. He's a backup for the Steelers

986
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: like you got Caleb Williams. These jobs so competitive, there

987
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: is so much on the line. Think about your own situation.

988
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: If you work in an office setting, not everyone likes

989
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 2: each other, and if you're both going after similar deals

990
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 2: or competing with other people in your industry, like, not

991
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: everyone is fucking kumbaya, even if they're quote unquote on

992
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 2: your team or work for the same company. It's kind

993
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: of life right now.

994
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 3: Toxic.

995
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: Was it toxic because the organization was falling apart or

996
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: was it toxic just because they wouldn't talk to each other.

997
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: I think we'd be shocked with how often stuff like

998
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: that happens. You don't just unless you're Peyton Manning or

999
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald or Travis Kelcey. You're not just guaranteed that

1000
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: I have to listen to what you're saying, like I

1001
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 2: gotta listen to my coach. But like, just because you're

1002
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 2: another player that did something six years ago sounds like

1003
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm basically defending justin fields. But if I'm

1004
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: feels I show up like I'm the guy just got

1005
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 2: drafted really high. I'm ready to play. I'm not some

1006
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 2: third round pick, Like you don't want your third round

1007
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: pick looking like that. But justin Fields is supposed to

1008
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 2: be like, oh yeah, Andy, I'll just sit behind you

1009
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 2: and soak it all in. Like I understand competitive. That

1010
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: doesn't bother me really at all. But at the end

1011
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 2: of the day, if you're a Bears fan who cares

1012
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 2: as a Texans fan, I'm very excited about your two

1013
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 2: with CJ. While I think they're going to be very

1014
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: good this year, I want to avoid getting overhyped about

1015
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 2: a deep playoff run. How far do you see the

1016
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 2: Texans making it with a second year quarterback who could

1017
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: have a sophomore slump.

1018
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: I think the.

1019
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:47,479
Speaker 2: Biggest key to your off season was in that Ravens game.

1020
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: There was a major, major discrepancy in talent. Now, you

1021
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 2: guys had had some injuries, so the Tankdale had broke

1022
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: his leg or whatever, but the talent as the second

1023
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: half way on it. It wasn't a fair fight. Where

1024
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 2: this year you add Hunter, you add a couple dbs

1025
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: early in the draft, you add digs. I think you

1026
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,479
Speaker 2: go into this season hoping we just.

1027
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 3: Have more talent.

1028
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: So if the quarterback, if he goes into a sophomore slump,

1029
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: you might not win the division, but if he plays

1030
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: at a high level, Again, do we have the talent

1031
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: the young coaching staff to compete in the playoffs against

1032
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, against the Ravens, against the Bills. Because last

1033
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: year you weren't gonna win those games.

1034
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: It just wasn't gonna happen.

1035
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: Like, you wouldn't beat Josh Allen the Bills, you wouldn't

1036
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: beat the Chiefs. You obviously didn't beat the Ravens. You

1037
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: couldn't have beaten those teams. This year, I think, hey,

1038
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 2: I don't have your would you go win ten games

1039
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: last year or eleven?

1040
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 3: I think ten?

1041
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: We might win ten or eleven games, like being the

1042
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: similar win loss record, But we're going to.

1043
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 3: Be a better team.

1044
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: Clearly there's some luck involved with health, but that to

1045
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: me is what matters. It's not as much getting over hyped.

1046
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: It's like, are we just better? Are we more impactful?

1047
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 2: Do we have more high end guys? Can Daniel Hunter

1048
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: add something and Will Anderson take a step? See I

1049
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 2: look at it? More young players second year in the system,

1050
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 2: can Hunter and Will or can Will Anderson and CJ.

1051
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: Stroud be even better. CJ really just needs to be

1052
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: the same. But if Will Anderson is even more of

1053
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 2: an impact guy, you're like, Okay, you're fucking playing.

1054
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 3: Let's let's roll. What time is game time? That's how

1055
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 3: I look at it. Follow up?

1056
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 2: Do you think nil money will empower players to try

1057
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: and dictate where they end up in the NFL? I

1058
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: just think no one cares. Like, if I want a

1059
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: draft you, I'm gonna draft you.

1060
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do?

1061
00:58:55,640 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: I just I guess it could. But unless you're the

1062
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: number one overall pick, no one really cares about your opinion.

1063
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: And let's face it, most players, the higher you get drafted,

1064
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: the more money you get. So to dictate where you

1065
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 2: get in the NFL, Like, yeah, would I rather play

1066
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: for the Chiefs than the Panthers?

1067
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 3: Of course? But am I gonna be like I will

1068
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 3: not play for.

1069
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 2: Anybody, but the Chiefs were the Ravens or the Niners,

1070
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: you'd be like, Okay, we're gonna draft you at third

1071
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: overall and one? Why would you pass up that type money?

1072
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 2: So no, it happens a lot in the NBA, like

1073
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 2: we're not giving you our medical information we just refuse

1074
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 2: to play for you.

1075
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 3: And it feels a lot in the NBA, it's.

1076
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,439
Speaker 2: Like okay, yeah, we'll totally listen to you and we'll

1077
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: pass on the player. I just don't think anyone in

1078
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 2: the NFL gives a shit. The other thing is players

1079
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Speaker 2: in the NFL, like, once you're in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: People be like, who the hell is this guy?

1081
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Speaker 2: Because let's face half the first round bus they ain't

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01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 2: any good, so you'd be a marked man before you

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01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 2: even got Now the Eli Mannings and the John elways

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Speaker 2: like that will happen again. But if you're not the

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Speaker 2: number one overall player, if you're like the tenth best

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Speaker 2: player in the draft and you're trying to dictate going

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Speaker 2: somewhere else one you would cost yourself money into. Like

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Speaker 2: I said, I just don't think front offices care at all.

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Speaker 3: What are you gonna do? Not show up to OTAs,

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01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 3: not be a good guy. What are you gonna do

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01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 3: when my.

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Speaker 2: Three Pro bowlers on defense are like, why are you

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01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: acting like this? So it's just it's just not really tolerated.

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Speaker 3: You know. That's why the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Has a lot of parallels to life. You couldn't act

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Speaker 2: like that. No matter how talented you are, some up

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Speaker 2: and coming engineer out of you know, USC or the

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01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: best highest grades out of Ohio State or cal Berkeley's

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Speaker 2: Business School. You can't just walk into the company day

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Speaker 2: one and be like, sit in the corner office and

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Speaker 2: tell everyone to shut up. Just the way it works.

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Speaker 2: It is the way it works in basketball. It's not

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Speaker 2: the way it works in the NFL. And one resonates

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Speaker 2: a little bit more with most people than the other.

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Speaker 2: The volume