1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day at Bloomberg 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: dot Com, the radio, plus globile, lapt and on your radio. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg Business Flash from Bloomberg World Headquarters. 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm Katherine Cowdery. The stock market is retreating, on track 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: for its biggest drop in more than a month as 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: investors turn risk averse. Socks have fallen from Japan to 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: Europe as oils plunged into a bear market renews at 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: global growth concerns. Consumer companies are taking big losses as 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: investors worry about the health of the US economy. A 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: report reinforced concerned that American consumers are losing power as 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: wage gains remain as sluggish. We check the markets every 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes throughout the trading day. Dow industrial leverage is 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: down eighty two points four tens of a percent trading 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: at eighteen thousand, three hundred twenty two S and P 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: five founded down twelve point six tents of a percent 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: at eight then AZDAC is down thirty nine points three 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: quarters of a percent at fifty four. West Texas intermediate 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: crude oil down forty six cents of barrel one point 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: one percent to spot gorolled up twelve dollars fifty cents 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: announced at ten year treasury down five thirty seconds with 21 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: the yield of one point five four percent. And that's 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: a Bloomberg business flash. Catherine Calderie, thank you so very much. 23 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: It is time now for the e t F report, 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: brought to you by Sector Spider et F S. Why 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: by a single stock when you can invest in the 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: entire sector. Visits sector spdrs dot com or called one 27 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: eight six sector e t F crops, our, cultural commodities 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: and rainfall. Maybe there's an e t F that can 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: help you make a bed house on All of that 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: is going to work out. Catherine Cawtery is back with 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: the day's et F report. Investors have turned against three 32 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: of the largest US crops, betting a timely rainfall will 33 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,279 Speaker 1: further increase supplies of corn, wheat, and soybeans. Hedge funds 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,919 Speaker 1: and other money managers are now holding a record wager 35 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: on further declines for weight. Sal Gilberti, president of two 36 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: Griam Trading, recommends taking a longer term view of agricultural 37 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: commodities through the use of his firm's exchange traded products. 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: Long term trends and corn, along with soybeans and wheat, 39 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: are the usage continues to increase. It's it's primarily driven 40 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: by population growth. Globally, the population expands by roughly seventy 41 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: five seventy eight million people per year. It's the equivalent 42 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: of the population of California doubling every year as new 43 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: added population on the planet Earth. Gilberti makes a case 44 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: for corn, saying it's used for fuel to fill up 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: your tank, is also an animal feed, and is used 46 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: to make paper and those recyclable plastic cups. Gilberti maintains 47 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,559 Speaker 1: that E T N s that focus on agricultural commodities 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: should be included in a diversified portfolio. That's ther Bloomberg 49 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: ETF Report. I'm Catherine Colderie. You're listening to Taking Stock 50 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: with Kathleen Hays and pimp Box on Bloomberg Radio. What 51 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: do drug and discount stores in Japan, real estate in 52 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: Germany and a global food company based in Switzerland all 53 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: have in common? While they're the focus us of our 54 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: next guest, Paul Markham, Global Equities portfolio manager of the 55 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: Newton dry Fuss International Equity Fund symbol there s N 56 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: I e X and he is from Newton Investment Management, 57 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: helping to manage more than one billion dollars of customer assets. 58 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: He's based in London and he joins us now. Paul, 59 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: thanks very much for being with us. Tell us the 60 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: strategy that you mean that you that you use to 61 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: manage this fund because it is global in nature and 62 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: it covers a wide variety of companies. Yes, that's right, 63 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: good afternoon, and it's a pleasure to be to be 64 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: with you. Um. Yes, the fund is essentially an international 65 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: equity portfolio, which means that it invests around the world, 66 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: excluding securities or equities in the US. We try to 67 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: divertify the portfolio and have a wide range of geographies, 68 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: um and sectors represented. But we do use a thematic 69 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: backdrop of those big changes which we see socially, politically 70 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: and economically that we think will influence markets over time, 71 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: and we allow that to drive our stock selection, and 72 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: we have a fairly focused portfolio around sixty stocks on 73 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: the fund. You have a lot of big trends to 74 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: help you now. Of course, with the US Fed Reserve 75 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: maybe starting to continue on a path of tightening, and 76 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: the Briggs that vote in the Bank of England. I'm 77 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: just fascinated by the Bank of Japan and this big, 78 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: big turnaround we've seen in Japanese government bonds, the Bank 79 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: of Japan not going pedal to the metal on more 80 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: monetary stimulus, and we're going to think about what we're doing. 81 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: We've got the details on the fiscal plan from Prime 82 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: Minister Abby. What do you make of what's going on Japan? 83 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: What does it mean for the markets there and basically 84 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: your your global portfolio strategy. Well, I think that's you're 85 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: You're very right to put Japan in the context of 86 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: what could happen globally, because what we've seen quite often 87 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: with many developments in the macro economy is Japan really 88 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: leading because it's been the first major economy to really 89 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: have the problems of demographics really coming into play, for example. 90 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: And so what we're seeing is the Bank of Japan 91 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: really throw the ball back into the court of the 92 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: Japanese government. So what we're seeing is the potential of 93 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: monetary policy perhaps not being as strong an emphasized tool 94 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: of of economic policy going forward, and maybe more of 95 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: an expansion on the fiscal side, and what that means 96 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: in the near term and what we've been seeing over 97 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: the last few days is that the market has anticipated 98 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: that the b o J will no longer be buying 99 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: as many government bonds, and also potentially that the fiscal 100 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: burden for the Japanese government will expand. The bond yeld 101 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: to have really become far less negative. We had a 102 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: very significant move in Japanese government bonds over the last 103 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: few days, and that's been positive for the end and 104 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: we suspect that will also be negative for the market 105 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: going forward, given the Japanese market tends to be dominated 106 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: by exports oriented companies. Up the performance of the fund, 107 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: it's up about the two and a quarter percent in 108 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: one month. You're to date, though, down about the two 109 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: and in the context of Japan and wondering if you 110 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: could maybe give us a little thought about why some 111 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: of these holdings are in the fun Japan Tobacco, don 112 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: Quixote holdings. You've also got a holding in Japan Airlines. 113 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: Are you betting that the Japanese economy will continue to 114 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: prosper despite this lackluster stimulus package. What we've really tried 115 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: to do on the portfolio is to let the thematic backdrop, 116 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: which we see as being continued very sluggish chronic sluggishness 117 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: in the Japanese economy and indeed across many of the 118 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: developed markets. And what that's led to is us to 119 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: believe that in many cases, companies which are firstly perhaps 120 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: focusing on the lower end consumer or companies which have 121 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: exceptional return characteristics will prosper in this environment. So Don Dyuxote, 122 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: for example, is the Japanese equivalent really of a dollar 123 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: store UM, and it's run very much for profit, with 124 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: very much more efficient operating metrics than it's petitors domestically 125 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: in Japan, much more like a Western company, if you will. 126 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: On the for example, Japanese Airlines investment case, this is 127 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: a company which is very different to Global Airlines, has 128 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: twice the operating profit operating margin of many of its 129 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: global competitors, as a high dividan yield. The government took 130 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: it out of bankruptcy and made sure that it's pension 131 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: liabilities no longer we're on its balance sheet. So this 132 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: is something which we see as being very much a 133 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: special situation UM. And finally, companies such as Japan Tobacco 134 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: for many years a company with substandard returns relative to 135 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: competitors in the US or in the UK, for example, 136 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: but a company with exceptional global brands, we think of 137 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: very strong management team and rising cash returns. And I 138 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: think in this environment of financial repression and very low 139 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: bond yields, I think high dividan the yield will continue 140 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: to be the global investors an attractive phenomenon, even if 141 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: in the near term we may see some other pressure 142 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: on bond yields, which may see some of those yielding 143 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: stocks do a little bit less well in the market. 144 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: Bank of England big meeting on Thursday, they passed on 145 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: the rate cut in July many I mean, smalt pent. 146 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: They've got to do it and then give us more 147 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: details about their plan um equities companies in the UK. 148 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: Is that an area to stay away from? How do 149 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: you deal with that right now if you don't know 150 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: how Brexit is going to play out? Well, yes, absolutely, 151 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: I mean the Bank of England's um sort of quandary 152 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: is pretty clear. I think what we've been seeing in 153 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: the last couple of days is some comments from former 154 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: Monetary Policy Committee members at the Bank of England who 155 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: have suggested that Governor Carney doesn't have too much possible 156 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: further monetary stimulus to to to create UM, I guess 157 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: that's you know, current policy rate half a per cent. 158 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: We could potentially, and we did originally expect post Brexit 159 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: to see a cut to zero. UM. What I think 160 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: is becoming clear is that the post Brexit data has 161 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: got worse, but we haven't yet seen enough data to 162 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: justify that full jump down to zero interest rate repost 163 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: zero interest rate policy. So what I think will be 164 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: bothering the Bank of England is the idea that they 165 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: could cut rates completely to zero and then we see 166 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: a deterioration in real estate and the consumer economy further 167 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: down the line, and that will then mean that they 168 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: have very little room to cut rates any further. So 169 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: what I suspect may happen is that they may go halfway. 170 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: They could go for a twenty five basis point cut 171 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: or maybe something you know, unorthodox, like a ten basis 172 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: point cut. But at this moment it does seem that 173 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: the the market is rather betting on a disappointing rate 174 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: cup from Bank of England, given the strength of sterling 175 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: over the last few days. On the subject to the 176 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: equity markets in the UK, it is interesting to see 177 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: that we've had a really strong rally posts the sort 178 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: of Brexit collapse, and largely I guess that is to 179 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:50,239 Speaker 1: do with the fact that the particular oriented towards exports 180 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: UM and that's something which has been very helped by 181 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: much help by a weaker sterling. However, looking forward UM, 182 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: it certainly seems that the prospects for the UK economy 183 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: in the near term are uncertain. It may be over 184 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: a much longer period of time that the UK is 185 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: able to establish itself once again as a very major 186 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: player on the world stage. And certainly we've seen so 187 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 1: far quite a lot of interest from many major international 188 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: trading partners to put some sorts of trading agreement in place, 189 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: but that can't happen until the Brexit process is finished, 190 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: and that could take some time to do so. I 191 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: think the UK economy will be um, you know, certainly 192 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: in a doubtful place for a period of time. The market, 193 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: I suspect will act quite cyclically. It may will be 194 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: a kind of risk on market for the next year 195 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: or two, and in the in the near term it 196 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: does feel that maybe there is scope for a little 197 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: bit of disappointment after a strong run. Paul marcam thank you. 198 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: So very much. Was looking at a global macro pictures 199 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: such a big factor for global equity markets and also 200 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: some of the individual holdings in his portfolio. He's Global 201 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: Equities portfolio manager for the Newton Drivers International equity fund. 202 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: Well movers and shakers are coming up on Bloomberg taking 203 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: stock Dave Wilson our Stock said it will be joining 204 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: in on Kathleen Hayes along with pim Fox and this 205 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg h