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Speaker 1: Well, you know, God is passionate about people and places.

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Speaker 1: He's calling watchmen to rise in intercession and stand in

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Speaker 1: the gap. Well, today's guest is here to share prophetic

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Speaker 1: insights from his book, or Cities will be no more,

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Speaker 1: calling us into the spiritual.

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Speaker 2: Battle for our cities.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to that journey around the table

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Speaker 1: is April Simon's how are you?

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Speaker 2: I am doing great?

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Speaker 1: And speaking of cities, I was just in Washington and

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Speaker 1: they loved Johny table talk.

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Speaker 2: Oh it so Washington's day. You can okay?

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Speaker 1: Awesome, beautiful mountains there, beautiful city. Yes, I love your

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Speaker 1: travel and you come back and tell me hello from everybody.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Dorothy Newton, how are you? I'm doing great?

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Speaker 3: No traveling, but locally people love you.

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Speaker 2: No traveling? You traveling? Oh I do, I do, I do,

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Speaker 2: and I absolutely love to. But right now you're helping

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Speaker 2: with grand babies. Yes for sure. Rachel Anne Brown, how

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Speaker 2: are you good? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You told me about uh little uh Noah, Well, little

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Speaker 1: Noah Wells.

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Speaker 2: Who's how old?

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Speaker 4: He's harmless too, and he's a year.

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Speaker 2: And a half and he got into the cereal and

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Speaker 4: He got lots of things out because our pantry is

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Speaker 4: like one where you just like open the doors and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the video and he looked like he's having

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Speaker 1: so much fun, just like planing in the cereal.

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Speaker 2: I love those stories. Are little babies.

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Speaker 4: Zipping all around to.

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Speaker 1: Do some of that kind of stuff too when you

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Speaker 1: were little as well as well as she Rebecca Lamb Wise, Hi,

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Speaker 1: have you got any fun stories where the boys got

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Speaker 5: No, this, we're in a sweet season where they just

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Speaker 5: all play together and it's actually really cute. Ellie starts

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Speaker 2: So she is only ten months old and they are just.

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Speaker 1: Hanging every too. Yeah, she's ten months old. They they

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Speaker 1: play out in the backyard and get into everything. I

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Speaker 1: know that because I've been in your backyard everything. How

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Speaker 6: I'm doing good?

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Speaker 7: And you know, I had a sweet surprise this morning

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Speaker 7: and your son my son, Yes, and so a little

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Speaker 2: And then John manoah, he just kept showing me his

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Speaker 2: very interesting French And yes, French's showing me his water.

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Speaker 2: It's like my kids. My grandkids don't speak English when

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Speaker 2: they caught me, well they can.

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Speaker 1: They're doing both furniture and English. And welcome to the table,

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Speaker 1: Michael Wood for the first time.

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Speaker 8: Yes, it's an honor to be here with the ladies

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Speaker 8: of the tabler.

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Speaker 6: I think I'm ready, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Hold on to it time anyway. Well, you know, cities

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Speaker 1: are close to God's heart. From the Old Testament prophets

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Speaker 1: how God is calling us as.

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Speaker 2: Watchman to partner with him.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about your book our cities

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Speaker 1: about growing up in your testimony.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I was raised in just a wonderful Christian home

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Speaker 8: I went through a tough time and had secret sin

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Speaker 8: she heard about something happening near our hometown in Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Parents went through a divorce.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they did.

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Speaker 8: But as my mom began to pray, she heard God's

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Speaker 6: Of God, and it changed everything.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about what happened that night.

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Speaker 8: So I'm sitting there in the room and it's a

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Speaker 6: You're depressed, you're suicidal, and you hate your parents.

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Speaker 6: So my heart was beating out of my chest.

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Speaker 8: I just came down, and I was wearing this blue

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Speaker 8: When I got to the altar, I don'm not even

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Speaker 8: I lifted my hands, and when I did, the presence

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Speaker 1: And you know, your mother was almost like a watchman

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Speaker 6: Well, I was.

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Speaker 8: You know what's funny is people ask me, you know

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Speaker 8: I don't really remember anything else other than the God.

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Speaker 6: But now I'm crying these God tears, tears of.

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Speaker 8: Joy, that's right, tears of joy and just gratitude.

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Speaker 6: And my mom walks in and she.

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Speaker 8: Says, Micah, tonight God had your number, which really spoke

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Speaker 1: So at that point, did you have any idea that

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Speaker 2: How did that evolve?

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Speaker 6: The real thing, not perfect, but going after God. And

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Speaker 6: Cause discipleship to accelerate.

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Speaker 8: And that's what happened, had wonderful leaders speaking into me.

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Speaker 8: So first I joined Ms Karen's ministry team named Chosen,

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Speaker 6: So I did that for years.

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Speaker 2: And you know our dear friend Lexi, that's right.

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Speaker 6: And then as the Ramp continue to grow, you can just.

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Speaker 1: See that promotion like, as you were faithfal here, then

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Speaker 2: Some people want to go from here to here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, but that.

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Speaker 2: Stairstep, It builds such character, don't you.

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Speaker 8: I have a good pastor friend in Panama City, and

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Speaker 8: he said the road to Destiny is paved.

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Speaker 6: Was just simply saying.

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Speaker 8: Yes, whatever God puts in front of you, you say

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Speaker 8: yes to that, and one thing leads to another. So

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Speaker 8: eventually the Ramp started planting churches in order to pastor cities.

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Speaker 6: And disciple family.

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Speaker 8: So my wife and I became the lead pastors of

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Speaker 1: All right, well, so tell us about where cities will

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Speaker 1: be no more. How God spoke to you through a

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So the book really looks at the call of

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Speaker 8: the Watchman, especially in the life of Ezekiel. But it

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Speaker 8: was initiated by a God encounter through a dream. So

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Speaker 8: in the dream, I'm sitting at a church in Tuscaloosa, Alabama,

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Speaker 8: of a sudden, the breeze turns into a whirlwind, a

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Speaker 8: It's a God whirlwind. And this whirlwind when it comes in,

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Speaker 6: We start flying around the room, and I am.

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Speaker 8: Having this mixture of emotions. My first thought is God

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, one of the things I love about

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Speaker 2: It sounds like, yeah, well.

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Speaker 6: As watchmen and watch women.

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Speaker 1: And they come from a place of love and compassion

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Speaker 8: They make a lot of noise about what they see,

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Speaker 6: No, that's true.

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Speaker 8: And that's the thing about a watch dog. A watch

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Speaker 8: Because I believe the heart of God is.

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Speaker 8: I think it begins with a sense of responsibility. Do

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Speaker 8: As living on assignment from God? Same thing with our families.

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Speaker 8: Because if we see ourselves as people with responsibility, we

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Speaker 8: Think as people of responsibility, I think that's the first

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Speaker 4: I the keep skin in the game. Then when you

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Speaker 8: I think there are varying levels of responsibility, but I

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Speaker 8: That's really powerful because he's talking to his closest group

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Speaker 2: And I'm just gently.

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Speaker 1: God is looking at when we're in our very own city,

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Speaker 1: in our very own community.

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Speaker 2: Are we doing what we're supposed to do?

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Speaker 1: Are we watching and looking for opportunities to share the gospel.

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Speaker 8: One hundred percent and that sense of responsibility.

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Speaker 6: I'm shown up to a.

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Speaker 8: Coffee shop not just to get coffee.

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Speaker 6: But to be a watchman.

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Speaker 8: I had just a miracle happening thing in my family

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Speaker 8: recently where a family member had this just dramatic God encounter,

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Speaker 8: gave his life to Jesus. Amazing story, but part of

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Speaker 8: the storyline is that even when he was not walking

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Speaker 8: with God, there were people in the family that built

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Speaker 8: bridges of friendship and relationship, so that as this.

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Speaker 6: Began to happen, he knew who to call.

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Speaker 8: And what I found about that story very inspiring is

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Speaker 8: even when it looks like nothing's happening, people aren't, you know,

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Speaker 8: they don't seem to be increasing in God awareness. When

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Speaker 8: we are building bridges of friendship and relationship, it's creating

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Speaker 8: an infrastructure where God moments can happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, give me those people like Jesus, the woman at

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Speaker 1: the well, Zachy is. He was always getting in trouble

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Speaker 1: with the religious people, but he had a higher purpose

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Speaker 1: in watching opportunities to touch people that were outside the circle.

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Speaker 2: And I think so many times we miss that, Cindy,

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Speaker 2: we do.

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Speaker 7: And you know, I needed this today because I hear

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Speaker 7: so many lies on the media or from the media

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Speaker 7: about things that are happening for the good of our country,

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Speaker 7: and so I get so passionate I want to get

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Speaker 7: on social media and say, Okay, I got to say something.

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Speaker 2: I can't take the.

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Speaker 7: Lies anymore because they're just so blatant. And so I

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Speaker 7: it went bad in one of the states that's a

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Speaker 7: major was a major election, and I got so upset

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Speaker 7: and I felt like the Lord said, Cindy, you just

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Speaker 7: think the senators and congressmen that they got to take

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Speaker 2: He said, you need to get in your closet. Wow,

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Speaker 2: and you need to pray.

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Speaker 7: And I wonder if as watchmen we could take it

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Speaker 7: so serious that we got to really see God do

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Speaker 7: something in these major cities, to have this window of

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Speaker 7: time to reach yes people for the Kingdom of God.

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 8: Wow, that is very sobering, and it makes me think

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Speaker 8: about this reality that not only do our prayers matter,

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Speaker 8: the absence of our prayers matter. And we don't always

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Speaker 8: wrestle with that a lot, but it's true. You know,

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Speaker 8: in Ezekiel twenty two, the whole book, you know, watchman

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Speaker 8: themes everywhere. God says I was looking for someone who

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Speaker 8: would stand in the gap, make up a wall, to

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Speaker 8: stand before me, but I found no one.

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Speaker 6: So the city was destroyed.

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Speaker 8: And so when we don't take our place as watchmen,

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Speaker 8: there is consequence. Cities and nations are vulnerable to the enemy.

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Speaker 1: Would you just take a moment, Micah for someone who's

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Speaker 1: watching right now, and he here is talking about all this,

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Speaker 1: but you haven't maybe had an encounter with the Lord,

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Speaker 1: even experienced his love.

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Speaker 2: In your life.

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Speaker 1: And I just want to tell you the very most

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Speaker 1: important first step you can take is inviting the Lord

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Speaker 1: into your heart, into your life. Would you kind of

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Speaker 1: just go through explain that, then lead us in a

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Speaker 1: prayer rule repeat after you with someone watching right now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would love to.

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Speaker 8: You know, we're talking about this theme of a watchman, but

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Speaker 8: the whole reason God's looking for watchmen is because he

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Speaker 8: himself is a watchman. First, he looks at humanity, but

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Speaker 8: not just the masses.

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Speaker 6: He looks at.

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Speaker 8: Individuals, and his heart is moved with compassion. So even

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Speaker 8: before you've ever watched this episode, even before you've ever

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Speaker 8: even considered God, he has.

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Speaker 6: Been watching out for you.

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Speaker 8: He has your best in mind, and he wants your

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Speaker 8: heart to be the place of peace by saying yes,

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Speaker 8: yes to eternal life through Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 6: It's that simple.

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Speaker 8: So I just want to lead you in a prayer

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Speaker 8: recognizing your need for Him and saying yes to what

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Speaker 8: He has given you. So, Father, Father, we recognize our need.

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Speaker 2: We recognize our need.

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Speaker 6: For salvation.

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Speaker 8: We recognize, we recognize we're not enough on our own own.

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Speaker 6: We need you to step in.

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Speaker 2: We need you to step in.

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Speaker 6: We turn our hearts to you now.

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Speaker 8: Now, and we say yes, We say yes to the

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Speaker 8: gift of God, the gift of God, which is eternal

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Speaker 8: life through Jesus Christ. To Jesus Christ, we receive your son.

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Speaker 6: We receive your son into our lives. Now, into our lives. Now,

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Speaker 6: change everything about.

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Speaker 2: Us, change everything about us.

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Speaker 6: And fill our hearts with you.

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Speaker 8: Feel our hearts with you in Jesus' name is Jesus name.

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Speaker 2: Amen, Amen, Amen.

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Speaker 1: If you pray that prayer, there's a number that's coming

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Speaker 1: up on the screen. We're going to take a little

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Speaker 1: quick short break and give you an opportunity. For those

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Speaker 1: of you that don't have a Bible, we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about that.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 9: Some books deserve to be held, cherished, remembered. This book

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Speaker 9: is more than that. It's a place to meet God.

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Speaker 9: Every verse invites you to slow down, to listen, along

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Speaker 9: with a journal that offers a quiet space for your prayers,

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Speaker 9: your questions, your journey for moments of stillness.

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Speaker 2: For words that matter, order your Bible and journal bundle.

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Speaker 1: Now, well, we're just about out of time. We've been

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Speaker 1: talking with Micah Wood and God is looking for or watchmen.

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Speaker 1: What do you see the Lord doing over the next year?

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Speaker 2: What's in your heart? Quickly?

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Speaker 6: I find God.

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Speaker 8: I see God finding partners in cities. God finding people

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Speaker 8: who recognize the current condition is bad, it's rough, but

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Speaker 8: they see on the other side of that that through

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Speaker 8: partnership with God, through prayer and intercession, things can change.

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Speaker 8: You know, we are people of scripture. We are a

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Speaker 8: people of hope. Hope is the simple belief that things

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Speaker 8: can change. So if we will take that hope and

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Speaker 8: take it into the place of prayer, things will begin

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Speaker 8: to shift in our cities and in our nation.

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Speaker 2: Who needs to read the book?

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Speaker 8: Everyone needs to read the book because God's looking for watchmen,

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Speaker 8: and cities need them, families need them, congregations need them.

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Speaker 8: And again, this is a call that applies to every disciple.

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Speaker 8: If we'll say yes to to me.

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Speaker 1: What it says almost is like we've got to pay attention. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we've got to watch, we've got to listen, we've got

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Speaker 1: to pray, we've got to hear the Holy Spirit when

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Speaker 1: he speaks to us clearly about someone or something or

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Speaker 1: a situation, and we we got to pay attention to

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Speaker 1: what's going on because this is an important season in

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Speaker 1: time that we're living in. It really is all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: we are out of time, but remember God is looking

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Speaker 1: for those who will stand in the gap and pray

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Speaker 1: for their cities.

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Speaker 2: Are you praying for your city?

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Speaker 1: He has placed you in your city and your nation

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Speaker 1: to be a watchman so you can intercede for the

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Speaker 1: people around you and see God move in their lives.

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Speaker 1: If you're watching today, you're a watchman and you need prayer.

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Speaker 2: Call the number on your screen. Our prayer partners are

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Speaker 2: standing by.

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Speaker 1: If you prayed that prayer of salvation with Micah, call

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Speaker 1: and let us know we would love to pray with you.

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Speaker 1: And I do want to thank Michah for joining us.

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Speaker 1: To get a copy of his book, visit Michahwood dot

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Speaker 1: org and as always, make sure to follow us on

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Speaker 1: all social media and subscribe to our YouTube channel for

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Speaker 1: full episodes and exclusive content. Let us know how table

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Speaker 1: Talk is touching your life. Love hearing from you. You

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Speaker 1: can also listen to the Joni Table Talk podcast, available

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Speaker 1: now on all major platforms. Thank you so much for watching.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Micah for being here. And you'll go across

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Speaker 1: back to the pond. You'll go across the pond back

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Speaker 1: in the United Kingdom. We'll be praying for you. Thank

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Speaker 1: you ladies for being here. Hey, thank you for watching.

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Speaker 2: I just pray the Lord touch you today and encourage you.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 10: Bye bye for today.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know God can turn our darkest moments into

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Speaker 1: a testimony of his glory. In today's guest, overcame addiction, imprisonment,

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Speaker 1: and mental struggles to prove that no life is beyond Jesus'

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Speaker 1: transforming power. I really want you to get that message today.

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Speaker 1: I don't care where you've been, what you've done. You

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Speaker 1: need to stay right there. You're love this testimony. But

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Speaker 1: what is going to do for you today is allowing

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Speaker 1: you to understand that God loves you and he will

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Speaker 1: forgive you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so stay right there.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to that journal on the table is

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Speaker 1: my dear friend Cindy Johnston.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great? Goodd We love testimonies, don't we? Yes?

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Speaker 2: And you know a song that comes to mind is

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Speaker 2: amazing Grace. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I once was lost, but now I'm found was blind,

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Speaker 1: but now I see everyone at this table.

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Speaker 2: That's our testimony and akind of welcome.

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Speaker 10: That's it.

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Speaker 2: That's for everybody.

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Speaker 11: It is.

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Speaker 1: And you know the scripture that I love is the

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Speaker 1: one that says these things.

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Speaker 11: I have written that you may know that you have

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Speaker 11: eternal life.

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Speaker 6: God wants us to know that, doesn'ty.

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Speaker 2: He really does. Rachel am Brown, how are you?

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Speaker 6: And Gaed?

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Speaker 4: And you know you can't argue with someone's own personal experience.

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Speaker 4: And so that's why I love stories so much, because

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Speaker 4: they encourage people and their journey of faith.

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Speaker 2: And today's is no difference. That's true. Dorothy Newton testimonies.

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Speaker 2: You're irresistible.

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Speaker 3: They're so good because you know what, no matter what

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Speaker 3: you've done, no matter who you are, God loves you

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Speaker 3: so much and his redeeming love less forever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah and so yeah, so important. Cindey Murdock, how are

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Speaker 2: you doing.

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Speaker 7: I'm doing good, thank you, and I'm thinking about something.

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Speaker 7: The guests said that the beautiful part of knowing Jesus

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Speaker 7: Christ is when he says not guilty.

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Speaker 2: He bore all of our guilt and shame. He did.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's great to be found not guilty because the

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Speaker 1: Bible says for all have sin and comes short of

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Speaker 1: the glory of God. But Jesus paid the price for

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Speaker 1: our sin at Calvary when he died on the cross.

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Speaker 2: For all of us, that's including you.

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Speaker 1: Well, from addiction and self destruction to freedom. For natural

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Speaker 1: Todd Whiteslagh proofs no one is beyond God's redemption. He's

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Speaker 1: here today to share how God's radical love transformed him

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Speaker 1: and can transform you and me to all of us

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Speaker 1: sitting at the table of experience, that for sure, Todd,

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Speaker 1: Why welcome, Thank you for having me, Thank you for

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Speaker 1: being here.

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Speaker 11: I love y'all.

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Speaker 2: Thank you always.

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Speaker 1: Just when you start to minister, you just get this

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Speaker 1: real sincerity and earnestness, and it's almost like, I don't know,

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00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: I think it was probably transforming the way you are

673
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: now before g and what you were before Jesus.

674
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were totally different, were you.

675
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 11: Yeah? Well I was.

676
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 12: I was blind, I was lost, and I didn't realize

677
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 12: that God loved me. I mean I thought I just

678
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 12: I needed to look for love in all the wrong

679
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 12: places and I did.

680
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell us about what happened.

681
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: So growing up, I'm and Dad divorced yeah.

682
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 12: Well, first of all, my story is a great story,

683
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 12: but it's not a cool story, bro. You know, you

684
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 12: get the chur it says cool story, bro, and the

685
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 12: shirts kids are wearing. It's not a story so much

686
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 12: as it is a testimony. And that word testimony actually

687
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 12: means do it again God, the same.

688
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 11: That you did it before, with the same power, which

689
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 11: means that.

690
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 12: Testimony has the ability to do it again. And when

691
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,959
Speaker 12: you're watching, you can hear this and it actually can

692
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 12: happen right now in your life.

693
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's awesome. I was. My parents got divorced when I.

694
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 12: Was young, and I was really mad because my dad

695
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 12: left very rebellious, and my mom had to immediately get

696
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 12: jobs to take care of the kids. And so she

697
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 12: had one of her employers that was a mason, and

698
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 12: they said, hey, there's a place that your son can

699
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 12: come and live and they can take care of them.

700
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 12: Doesn't cost you anything. He can go to this place.

701
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 12: And my mom was like, I need help. So I

702
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 12: went to this place.

703
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: So were you rebellious with your mom and you were

704
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: hard to Yeah?

705
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 11: Oh I was.

706
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: So she didn't know what to do.

707
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,959
Speaker 11: Oh no, she was over her head. She didn't I

708
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 11: was out of control. She was. My dad left.

709
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 12: I was eleven when he left, so I immediate when

710
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 12: my dad left, I went upstairs. I took all my

711
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 12: vinyl albums. I had like one hundred and fifty of them.

712
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 12: I threw them against the wall and I broke. I

713
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 12: chipped all the plaster in my whole bedroom. Like I

714
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 12: immediately exploded, like my dad left because that was like

715
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 12: my dad, and I didn't never see him fight, so

716
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 12: I didn't know any of that was happening. So I

717
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 12: was out of control.

718
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 11: Mom wanted to get me help. She put me in

719
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 11: this place, but I didn't know anything about God. I

720
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 11: didn't do anything.

721
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 12: So I grew up drugs from twelve, fully hooked, got

722
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 12: kicked out of there, joined the military because the Marines

723
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 12: were looking for a few good men. I thought, well,

724
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 12: I could never be a man, you know, but this

725
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 12: is going to make me lun So I did it.

726
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 11: So I did the boot camp.

727
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 12: I lost seventy six pounds in boot camp because I

728
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 12: mouthed off the whole time. Literally they starved me and

729
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 12: peetied me, and so I was I thought I could

730
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 12: run two walls by seventy six pounds in thirteen weeks.

731
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 12: So I came out of machine. I graduated first squad.

732
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 12: Later I really was like on top of the I

733
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 12: feel like a top of the world. But I ended

734
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 12: up coming out. I went back to base, started drinking,

735
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 12: and as soon as I started drinking, I started using

736
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 12: drugs again. Cocaine was back in and all that stuff.

737
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 12: And I'm like, if I don't leave, I'm going to

738
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 12: get busted sides. I'm done with them tell me what

739
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 12: to do. So I ran away, went to Colorado.

740
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 2: Problem with authority fall.

741
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 12: I had a problem with when my dad left. That

742
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 12: thing entered my life and now like I don't want

743
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 12: to hear it.

744
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 11: I don't want to hear anybody can answer. Anybody not

745
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 11: gonna tell me who I am.

746
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 2: So you ran away from the military.

747
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 11: I did.

748
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: A good thing.

749
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 12: Your government property, so they're going to get you one day.

750
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 12: So they got me in Colorado on it.

751
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 11: I get arrested them to get you about five and

752
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 11: a half.

753
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: Months because you were hiding out where I was hiding

754
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: in the mountains in Colorado.

755
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 11: I thought it was if there's a heaven, this is it.

756
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 11: You know.

757
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 12: I was just gone, you know, I was just getting

758
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 12: high every day, and so I ended up getting busted

759
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 12: and like I was running from the law because I'd

760
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 12: stolen a bunch of money, like in drug deals from

761
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 12: drug dealers. So I'm running because now I'm going to

762
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 12: get busted for that, and I'm gonna get busted in

763
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 12: the military. So I get extra diited back across the US,

764
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 12: get put in military prison. I'm there for about five

765
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 12: five and a half months. I get out. They slapped

766
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 12: me on the wrist, take my pay away, take my

767
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 12: rank down to private again because I graduated boot camp

768
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 12: lands corporal. And so now I'm like, barrack detail, I'm

769
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 12: not doing this like you guys.

770
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 11: I'm leaving. So I went a wall again right away.

771
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

772
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 11: So you think that you'd learned the first time.

773
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: Scared of them?

774
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 12: Oh no, No, I wasn't scared of anybody. It was

775
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 12: so weird, like I was bold for the wrong god,

776
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 12: you know. So I ended up getting busted five and

777
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 12: a half or no, eleven and a half months later,

778
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 12: traffic violation, five cops with nine millimeters in my head

779
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 12: on the ground, fugitive from the military.

780
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 11: They don't know who I am, and they know it's.

781
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 12: My second time, so I could be anybody so dangerous,

782
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 12: I mean, so they put me in jail, extradite me

783
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 12: in the second time, I get put in military prison again,

784
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 12: just miss Levenworth time, which is a long time. I

785
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 12: ended up getting kicked out, got a bad conduct discharge,

786
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 12: which is called a big chicken dinner bad conduct discharge.

787
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 11: So you can't really get a job with that.

788
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: So I just lied to bad conduct discharge.

789
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 11: Yep, so it's not is that the worst you can get.

790
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 11: No dishonorable was the worst one.

791
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 12: So my bad conduct discharge after I got out six

792
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 12: months later, it would turn into other than honorable, so

793
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 12: it's not a dishonorable discharge.

794
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 11: And so I ended up getting.

795
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 12: Four felonies for bad drug charges, just bad checks, forgery, just.

796
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 11: Bad stuff happen to do with drugs.

797
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 12: I got three misdemeanors and I got fourteen thousand dollars

798
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 12: in court costs to pay back. Clerk of Courts bill

799
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 12: every month that if you're using drugs and you're a

800
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 12: drug addict, you're not paying your stuff. So they're constantly

801
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 12: issuing warrants for me. Then I meet a girl in

802
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 12: a bar on a blind date, and I trick her

803
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 12: and I think, and I'm mister amazing.

804
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 11: She's not a believer. I'm not a believer.

805
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 12: There's no Jesus in any of this yet, no Christians

806
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 12: in my whole family.

807
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 11: I haven't.

808
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: No one ever has told you, no one about Joe.

809
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 12: I had one Christian that was in my a great

810
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 12: great great great uncle. His name's Oliver Cromwell over in England,

811
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 12: and he actually had the king killed, took over the government.

812
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 11: He was actually a Puritan.

813
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 12: There's a statue of him at Westminster Abbey with a

814
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 12: Bible and a sword. So I'm like, I get it now,

815
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 12: but not them. So I had nobody in my life

816
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 12: that was seeking God. Nobody witnessed me. I was scary,

817
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 12: you know. I was a scary guy. I would be

818
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,479
Speaker 12: the person that Jesus walked up to, but nobody walked

819
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 12: up to me.

820
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because angry, Oh I was.

821
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 11: I was a fighter.

822
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 12: So I was always in fights, always in trouble, just

823
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 12: always in trouble. So I'm bar hopping, clubbing. One of

824
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 12: my friends is like, hey, I want to set you

825
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 12: open a blind date with this girl, you know. And

826
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 12: so I meet this girl and I'm like, yeah, I'm

827
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 12: gonna I'm going to go after her. So we go

828
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 12: out on the first date and then I'm like, I

829
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 12: pursued her and stalked her actually and not to hurt her,

830
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 12: but I just was I'm going to have her, you know.

831
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 12: It was like the it was lust and yes, yes, conquered.

832
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 11: Gosh terrible.

833
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 12: So I ended up dating this girl and ended up

834
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 12: moving in together. And then a year and a half

835
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 12: later she gets pregnant. And when we had our daughter,

836
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 12: she had no idea all the Marines, she didn't know

837
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 12: the military stuff, she didn't know all the felonies, she

838
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 12: didn't know any of my record, and she got one

839
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 12: of the bills. The clerk at courts build she goes,

840
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 12: what is this? And then I told her all my stuff.

841
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 12: She's whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, And now like we're

842
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 12: going to try to make it. But now she sees

843
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 12: that I can't stop using. I've quit jobs, getting fired

844
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 12: from jobs.

845
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: He's pregnant.

846
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 11: You're not the man that you told me you were.

847
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 11: Now my daughter's born.

848
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 12: And she tells me after six months in that she's

849
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 12: going to find a man to take care of her. Well,

850
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 12: I'm going to kill him and kill her because if

851
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 12: I can't have them.

852
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 11: No one will.

853
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 12: That's what you told her, and I really did. I

854
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 12: threatened her life. I'm so, I'm so out there. So

855
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 12: I'm going to go to the doctor's get help. Like maybe,

856
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 12: So I go to the doctor. You're bipolar. You're hearing voices,

857
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 12: your borderline schizophrenic. Here, Take this, Take this, Take that.

858
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 12: So now I'm taking medicine and I'm doing drugs because

859
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 12: I can't stop the voices, and they're telling me to

860
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 12: end your life, end my life, be done. You're never

861
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 12: going to be a father. So my daughter's growing up

862
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 12: with that. She ends up staying with my girlfriend, stays

863
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 12: with me for nine years, and my daughter grows up

864
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 12: with an animal.

865
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 11: For a dad.

866
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 12: Never physically abusive because that wasn't my thing, but I would.

867
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 11: She wants me fight people.

868
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 12: She my girlfriend would go to bars.

869
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 11: She saw all of it.

870
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 12: It was awful. And I had a poor an addiction

871
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 12: from eight years old. That was twisted, That was way twisted,

872
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 12: but that I thought that made.

873
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 11: Me a man. So my life is absolutely perfect for

874
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 11: the gospel.

875
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 12: But I don't know anybody, and no one's sharing it

876
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 12: with me, and it's weird. So for thirty four years,

877
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 12: no one ever shared Jesus with me. So one night

878
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 12: I come home and she's gone, and I'm going to

879
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 12: do what I said. I'm going to kill myself.

880
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 11: It's over.

881
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 12: And I know she didn't leave me for someone, because

882
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 12: my daughter left a note saying where at Grandma's house.

883
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 11: Mommy's never coming home.

884
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 12: So I drove to her step Dauds to get a rifle,

885
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 12: and on the way back to the gun cabinet, I

886
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 12: saw this phone book. I'm like a notepad right beside

887
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 12: the phone book.

888
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 11: Well, I'm going to write a note.

889
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 12: I had a sharpie in my hand, going to write

890
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 12: a goodbye letter. I'm sorry goodbye because I don't have

891
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 12: anything else to say.

892
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 11: So I don't know. I can't stop. So I looked

893
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 11: at this phone book.

894
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 12: I flipped it open and it opens to churches, and

895
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 12: I'm like, this is so stupid. I'm freaking out and

896
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 12: streaming and I can't believe this. And I made a

897
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 12: check at when of those five hundred and eighty six churches,

898
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 12: and I drove to the church and I started talking

899
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 12: to this pastor guy and he's like, hey, come on in, buddy,

900
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 12: and I'm not his buddy, and I'm like, why are

901
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 12: you saying, buddy, you don't even know me. I just

902
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 12: but there's something about him that's real, Like his eyes

903
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 12: are filled with real.

904
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 11: It's real.

905
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 12: And so he takes me upstairs and he tells me

906
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 12: about Jesus and I started arguing, I did not come

907
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 12: here to hear about Jesus. I didn't come here for that.

908
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 12: And he goes, this is a church, like, why did

909
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 12: you come. I don't know why, Dame. I took a

910
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 12: phone book open. He goes, let me tell you something,

911
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 12: and then he shared his testimony with me. And I'm like,

912
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 12: that's not you. You're lying, that's not you. And he goes,

913
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 12: that guy died. I'm like, what that guy died? Like,

914
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 12: you're still here, man, and he goes, no, no, no,

915
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 12: that was the me who's not here today.

916
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 11: This is the new man. And I'm like oh. And

917
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 11: he said, since you don't want your life, won't you

918
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 11: give it to somebody that wants it?

919
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 12: But I couldn't register in my mind why would anybody

920
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 12: want what I have?

921
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 11: But enrage, I said.

922
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 12: Whatever, if he wants it, he can have it. They

923
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 12: are you happy? And he said amen? And I don't

924
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 12: even know what that means. But he gave me his

925
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 12: number and he told me to call him.

926
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: And I said, I'm gonna doing prayer.

927
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 12: I guess right, I did, But I incorporated.

928
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 11: I didn't surrender.

929
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 12: And there's a difference between incorporating Jesus in because immediately

930
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 12: the manipulative thought came in. The monipuads have thought that

931
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 12: I can get my girlfriend back with this new Jesus thing.

932
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 11: I'm going to get that.

933
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 12: So that was the first thing I thought about, is

934
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 12: manipulating in the name of Jesus, which is crazy, but

935
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 12: I don't know him yet, and so I know about him.

936
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 11: There's a seed.

937
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 12: So I go home and I'm like, I call my daughter,

938
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 12: she's a grandma. She goes to mommy, daddy's daddy, Mommy's

939
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 12: never coming home. She hates you, and I'm so sorry,

940
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 12: I'm going to miss you. Him like baby, baby, baby,

941
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 12: Daddy found God. Tell mommy, daddy found God. And my

942
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 12: daughter says, what's he like, dad? And I said, I

943
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 12: don't know, but this pastor he said his God's going

944
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 12: to change Daddy's life. And she's like, she's crying, Daddy,

945
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 12: Mommy's never coming you kick and scream, do what every

946
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 12: guy do. Daddy's waiting, and I hung the phone on,

947
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 12: knowing it was enough to maneuver her to that place

948
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 12: where she's going to fight mommy to get her to

949
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 12: come home. So Mommy comes home. I tell her everything's

950
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 12: going to change. I found God, and she hates even

951
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 12: the thought.

952
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: Of God, and she's an atheist.

953
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 12: She's an atheist at the time, and her grandmother became

954
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 12: a Jehovah witness six months earlier, cut the whole family off,

955
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 12: So that's her view of what God is.

956
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 11: Yeah, so she's like, I hate this even the thought

957
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 11: of it.

958
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 12: So I went in before my daughter went to bed

959
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 12: and told her I'm so sorry, baby for all I've done.

960
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 11: I meant it.

961
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 12: I didn't want to do this anymore. But man, an

962
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 12: hour and a half later, I'm out on a cocaine bench.

963
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 12: I come home in the morning. I call that pastor,

964
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 12: You're Jesus doesn't work. I'm screaming, And he said, Todd,

965
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 12: how do you feel? I said, how do I feel?

966
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 12: Did you hear what I did? I did it again.

967
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 11: I stole her money. I drained her bank account.

968
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 12: He's like, Todd, there's a seed that's growing in your

969
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 12: heart because yesterday you wouldn't even have cared.

970
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 11: And I'm like, make it grow faster, and I threw

971
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 11: the phone. It was a stretchy phone. It flew back

972
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 11: and hit the wall.

973
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 12: I'm like, oh, So for the next five and a

974
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 12: half months, I'm living this fake. Go to church on Sunday,

975
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 12: lift my hands during worship, don't know who God is,

976
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 12: trying to learn the songs. Because I'm a singer in

977
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 12: a band, I can learn this. And people are like, wow,

978
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 12: you really gifted. You need to man, you should be

979
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 12: on the worship team. And I'm so glad they didn't

980
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 12: pick me up. But five and a half months later,

981
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 12: I go out one night and I steal from the

982
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 12: wrong drug dealer.

983
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 11: I have this kid in my car. I tell him

984
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 11: I'm a cop and.

985
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 12: I've ripped off so many before, so it's same routine.

986
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 12: I get the cocaine in my hand, I tell him

987
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 12: to get out of the car, and this kid's slamming

988
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 12: his hand on the thing, saying I.

989
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 11: Knew you were a cop. I knew it.

990
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 12: And I'm like, get out of the car, put your

991
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 12: hands on the hood. And when he gets out, I

992
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 12: hit the gas. When his leg went out the door.

993
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 12: The door slam shut, and he spun around and he

994
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 12: unloaded a nine millimeter at me. And when the bullets

995
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 12: came out of the gun, an audible voice that was

996
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 12: louder than the gun blast said, I took those bullets

997
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 12: for you.

998
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 11: Are you ready to live for me? Yet?

999
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 12: I had no grid for the voice of God, none

1000
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 12: of that. But all I know is that I'm shot,

1001
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 12: and I've got to get out of here. And now

1002
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 12: I'm thinking, I got to do this cocaine.

1003
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 11: One last time before I die.

1004
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 12: So I did two eight balls of cocaine crack cocaine.

1005
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 12: Every time time I tried to get high. That voice

1006
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 12: killed my buzz. So I pull into my driveway petrified.

1007
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 12: That voice killed his bus kills.

1008
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 11: I'm talking four hours.

1009
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 4: How could you even take that a lot of cookaine?

1010
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 11: I should have died.

1011
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 12: It should have blew my heart up, honestly, because if

1012
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 12: you look at it, if you know anything about it, it

1013
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 12: should have I should have burst my heart. It was

1014
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 12: one hit after another because I couldn't get the buzz.

1015
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: So talk about it a god pursuing you.

1016
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 11: Yeah, Like, And that's the.

1017
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 12: Thing is that no one thinks that no one like,

1018
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 12: and why would he pursue me. I mean, like, all

1019
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 12: I've done is hurt, steal from people. People are dead

1020
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 12: because of the drug deals that I was involved in,

1021
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 12: selling bad drugs to people, kills people.

1022
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 11: So it's a mayem. It's like it's like a wrecking ball.

1023
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 12: So here i am on this freight train for the Devil,

1024
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 12: for the Kingdom of Hell, and I'm destroying people and

1025
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 12: I'm like posing as a Christian, lifting my hands and worships,

1026
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 12: singing really loud, and I'm having the best time with this,

1027
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 12: draw people's attention to me because I did deflex off

1028
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 12: of a real issue. My girlfriend thinks I'm just this

1029
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 12: biggest hypocrite.

1030
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 11: My daughter is like, I hope my daddy changes.

1031
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 12: And man, five and a half months later, I get

1032
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 12: shot at I come home that night, no bullets in

1033
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 12: my car, and I knew God was real, but I

1034
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 12: don't know how to get him. I didn't know because

1035
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 12: he's already in me because I asked him to.

1036
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 11: But I don't know how to reach him. It's a

1037
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 11: weird place to be.

1038
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 12: This needs shut off so that I can have this

1039
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 12: because this is too much drawing everything. So I go

1040
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 12: away to a place three days later, to a place

1041
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 12: called Teen Challenge Lost my girl lost, my daughter went

1042
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 12: in there, surrendered, submitted to God. In there, the Bible

1043
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 12: opens up to me.

1044
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 2: So you surrendered it just quickly explained what that means.

1045
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 12: Well, I mean, how many people are watching right now

1046
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 12: that when you're growing up, you see people that go

1047
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 12: to church, but you see them live and act the

1048
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 12: same way as anybody in the world does. Because that

1049
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 12: is a life that is not surrendered. That is a

1050
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 12: life that is just incorporated God into their life for

1051
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 12: maybe what they can get from him. And so what

1052
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 12: happens is you've seen that, so you want no part

1053
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 12: of that.

1054
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 11: So I saw that and wanted no part of that.

1055
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 12: But here God's pursuing me because he loves me. I

1056
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 12: don't know that and understand it. And why would he

1057
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 12: pursue me? Why would he love me out of all people?

1058
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 12: Because God had plans for me. So the bigger the

1059
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 12: attack on a life, the larger the call is on

1060
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 12: a life. And I didn't know that because I ruled

1061
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 12: people like in manipulation and lying and stealing.

1062
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 11: So now God's pursuing me. So I go to.

1063
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 12: Team Challenge, I said, and now, listen, surrender at the

1064
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 12: end of getting shot at and fourteen bullets and ten

1065
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 12: feet away and none of them hitting you is a

1066
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 12: hard place to surrender.

1067
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 11: So I really.

1068
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 12: Hope that people can get to that before they get

1069
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 12: shot at, because I don't know anybody that was shot

1070
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 12: at like me and made it out with no bullets nothing.

1071
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 12: But God pursued me because he wanted me. He didn't

1072
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 12: just want me to because I could.

1073
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 11: Be a preacher. He wanted me to know that he

1074
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 11: loved me.

1075
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,479
Speaker 12: You know, you got Jesus, and you've got this guy

1076
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 12: on the cross. Beside him two people, one of them

1077
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 12: is mocking Jesus, and you have one of them on

1078
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 12: the other side that is like, he's not even guilty.

1079
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 11: Listen, this man is innocent. We're guilty.

1080
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 12: He looks at Jesus and this guy has not done

1081
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 12: anything to deserve it. He's not done anything to earn anything.

1082
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 12: He looks at Jesus and says, Lord, remember me when.

1083
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 11: You come into your kingdom.

1084
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 12: And Jesus didn't say, well, you didn't live your life

1085
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 12: for me, Well you didn't go to church all your life,

1086
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 12: Well you didn't do this. He looks at me and

1087
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 12: he goes today, you'll be with me in paradise. And

1088
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 12: this guy had nothing that he could offer except I

1089
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 12: believe this God.

1090
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: But God looks it to heart, it's right, see, And

1091
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 1: that he knew that your broken heart.

1092
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, he knew that your heart.

1093
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: If it could ever experience the love of God, it

1094
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: would change forever.

1095
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 11: Right.

1096
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 2: And that's what happened.

1097
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 11: That's it. So I go at a team challenge. I surrendered.

1098
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 12: I actually had dreads before I was in a ban

1099
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 12: I was a singer.

1100
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 11: I shaved my head bald. It's true. I went in there.

1101
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 12: I'm surrendered, I'm submitted, and God reveals to me that

1102
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 12: he didn't just forgive my sin, that Jesus paid her

1103
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 12: price to remove my sin. There's a difference between forgiveness

1104
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 12: and forget me. See, God forgave and Forgod he'll never

1105
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 12: bring it up again.

1106
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 11: And so what.

1107
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 12: Happened was the revelation of the cross hit me where

1108
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Speaker 12: I don't have any sin anymore in God's eyes. Now

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Speaker 12: I'm his son, and I'm like who And I'm only

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Speaker 12: a month and a half in, you know, and I'm

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Speaker 12: so excited.

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Speaker 11: They're like calm down. I'm like, calm down.

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Speaker 6: This thing tells you.

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Speaker 12: And the Bible is the first book I could read

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Speaker 12: on my whole life because God opened up my eyes.

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Speaker 11: Because this thing's not meant for your brain, it's meant

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Speaker 11: for your heart.

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Speaker 2: God sees the heart, and you had problems with reading.

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Speaker 11: Oh, I couldn't read my whole life. I never read

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Speaker 11: a book my whole life.

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Speaker 2: So that was another supernatural meal.

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Speaker 12: Oh man, so here watch this, so I'm in there.

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Speaker 12: God reveals that He forgave and for good my sin.

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Speaker 12: I had three nights where I encountered him in these dreams.

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Speaker 12: The third night, he told me to go home and

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Speaker 12: restore my family. But I don't have a home. But

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Speaker 12: I need to say I'm sorry. First thing that happened

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Speaker 12: in my heart was I got Oh, my God, I

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Speaker 12: have a daughter like she's seven and a half already.

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Speaker 12: I missed seven and a half years of life because

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Speaker 12: I didn't understand there's a difference between a dad and

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Speaker 12: a father.

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Speaker 11: See, anybody can make a kit because anybody.

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Speaker 12: Can be a sperm donor God, even though God knits

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Speaker 12: them in the mother's womb. I didn't know the power

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Speaker 12: of being a father, but I realized that God's now

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Speaker 12: my father. I go home, and I see my daughter

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Speaker 12: and she's holding me, and I'm telling her how sorry

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Speaker 12: I am.

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Speaker 11: And she says, Daddy, why are you sorry?

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Speaker 12: You're home and here I didn't understand it, but God

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Speaker 12: supernaturally removed her memory of all the junk that her

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Speaker 12: daddy did.

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Speaker 2: What about your girlfriend?

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Speaker 12: Well, she came out of the house after I'm telling

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Speaker 12: my daughter I can't live there and I'm so sorry,

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Speaker 12: but I'm going to get a job.

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Speaker 11: I'm going to provide for you.

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Speaker 12: And my girlfriend came out and she said, and she

1150
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Speaker 12: looked at me, and I said, I am so sorry.

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Speaker 12: I so messed your life up. I threatened to kill you.

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Speaker 12: I threatened suicide. Oh my gosh, please forgive me. I

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Speaker 12: hope and I'm just pouring out my heart. Well I didn't.

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Speaker 11: She's smiling at me, and I'm like, why are you smiling?

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Speaker 11: What's wrong? She said, no, no, no, when you went away,

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Speaker 11: I gave my life to Jesus.

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, and she was an ape.

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Speaker 11: What is happening? Yes, I'm like, what is happening right now?

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Speaker 11: Dan looks at me and he goes, I've been pouring

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Speaker 11: into your So.

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Speaker 1: The guy that witnessed you from the church, from the

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Speaker 1: phone book that you call and you went to the church.

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Speaker 11: He's been discipled.

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Speaker 1: He's witnessing to your girlfriend while you were in teen challenge.

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Speaker 2: She came to Christ like he gets a party in

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Speaker 2: every person you went to.

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Speaker 12: That's the thing, yes, Philippians four seventeen, that there's fruit

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Speaker 12: laid up into your account. It says, so what happens

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Speaker 12: is when you are in this what happens is there's

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Speaker 12: fruit up laid up in your account for everybody that wins, somebody,

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Speaker 12: everybody that prays for.

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Speaker 2: What does she say to you?

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Speaker 12: She looks at me and she goes, you can't live here,

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Speaker 12: of course not. We need to be married.

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Speaker 11: And she asked me to marry her. That doesn't happen

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Speaker 11: like that's like how many years?

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Speaker 2: How many?

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Speaker 11: I looked at her and I go I looked at her.

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Speaker 11: I go to Dan.

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Speaker 12: I actually first thing I said was what And she said, no,

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Speaker 12: we need to be married.

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Speaker 11: I said, are you? She goes, well, yeah, I said

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Speaker 11: we need to plant this. And Dan looks at me

1184
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Speaker 11: and he goes, you're not planning anything. And here's the facts.

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Speaker 11: Who's going to Like, who am I going to send invitations?

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Speaker 12: You know because we get this big thing, like, you've

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Speaker 12: got to have this huge it's about your covenant before God.

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Speaker 2: So you have been marrying me how long?

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Speaker 11: Twenty years? Wow? Very twenty years?

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Speaker 1: Well I want you to take a moment right now

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Speaker 1: there are people watching that this has gripped your heart. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you are ready to surrender. Just would you lead

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Speaker 1: us in a sinner's prayer?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, pay after year?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: I just I want to say this. You cannot go

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Speaker 12: and fix your past. You cannot go back and fix

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Speaker 12: the things and get yourself clean. You can't clean yourself

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Speaker 12: up enough for God to say, okay, now that you're clean,

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Speaker 12: come in listen.

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Speaker 11: If you were clean, you wouldn't need Jesus.

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Speaker 12: The fact is is when God comes, what happens is

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Speaker 12: the Holy Spirit comes, He makes his home inside of you,

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Speaker 12: and then God shows you who you really are. And

1205
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Speaker 12: right now the blinders can come off. Your heart's pricked,

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Speaker 12: which means your heart's touched saying I wish that something

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Speaker 12: like that could happen for me. You don't need to

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Speaker 12: wish because this is not a wish. It's not a

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Speaker 12: wish upon a star. It's not blow out the animals

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Speaker 12: and make a wish. It's not well, I hope with

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Speaker 12: your fingers crossed.

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Speaker 11: It's not rabbit's ears are luck.

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Speaker 12: It's not like a magician's hat. It's the reality of

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Speaker 12: you saying I'm sick of being where I'm at and

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Speaker 12: I don't want to live this way anymore, and I

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Speaker 12: really want change, and if this is real, I want it.

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Speaker 11: And that's where you got to be. And I feel like.

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Speaker 12: There are thousands of people watching right now saying, if

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Speaker 12: this is real, I want it. And Jesus says, as

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Speaker 12: close as the mention of his name. Look, there's no

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Speaker 12: way for you to get to God in your state.

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Speaker 11: There's no way.

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Speaker 12: So God loved the world so much that he sacrificed

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Speaker 12: his own son so that Jesus Christ would come. And

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Speaker 12: when he hung on that cross, he looked and you

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Speaker 12: were the joy set before him. He pursued that cross

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Speaker 12: and went through the most intense time anyone could go through.

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Speaker 12: He never sinned, and he who knew no sin became

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Speaker 12: sin so that you might become the righteousness of God.

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Speaker 12: That's Christ, Jesus. And I know you don't understand what

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00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 12: that means, but what it means is that you can

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Speaker 12: be right with God and have a relationship with God,

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Speaker 12: and you don't have to be a hypocrite. You can

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Speaker 12: jump in fully and say God, I want this, I want.

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Speaker 11: You in my life.

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Speaker 12: And the real God, God the Father, will come through

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Speaker 12: God the Son, because we believe in Jesus and God

1238
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Speaker 12: the Holy Spirit, will set his home up inside of

1239
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Speaker 12: you and you will become a temple for his glory.

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Speaker 12: He will kick out your guilt, your shame, your condemnation,

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Speaker 12: and he will annihilate your addiction because that's what he

1242
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Speaker 12: did for me. I want you to pray with me.

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Speaker 12: It's really easy. Just say this with me, Lord God,

1244
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Speaker 12: Lord God. I believe. I believe there has to be

1245
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Speaker 12: something more than what I've seen. Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 12: I believe. I believe that you died on that cross,

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Speaker 12: that cross from my sin so that I could be forgiven, forgive,

1248
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Speaker 12: but so that my sins could be forgotten.

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Speaker 11: I don't have the ability.

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Speaker 12: To do this in my own strength, and I can't

1251
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Speaker 12: go back.

1252
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Speaker 13: And fix my past and I can, so I'm asking

1253
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Speaker 13: you to wash away my sin, to take away my

1254
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Speaker 13: past so that I can have a future.

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Speaker 11: I give my whole life to you, and I ask

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Speaker 11: you to change it.

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Speaker 12: And transform it and make me a vessel that represents

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Speaker 12: you so that I can reach people, so that I

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Speaker 12: can reach every day of my life, every day in Jesus.

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Speaker 2: Precious Name, Jesus Pracious Name.

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Speaker 11: Amen.

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Speaker 1: Everybody said, Amen, All right, Well you want to get

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Speaker 1: Todd's book, Life is Short, Leave a legacy. The Todd

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Speaker 1: White Story tells all the g see details in here.

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Speaker 2: Really we barely scratch the surface.

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Speaker 6: But what it.

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Speaker 2: What a great, great.

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Speaker 1: Book, what a great story, what a great testimony.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for being here today. Let me blessing you.

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Speaker 1: Are, and you'll come back and we might even have

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Speaker 1: your daughter come back with you sometimes and share what

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Speaker 1: God did in her life. Well, we're out of time,

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Speaker 1: by the way, he's got five kids.

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Speaker 2: Now this is the saying babies, that's right. But this

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Speaker 2: is what I want you to remember.

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Speaker 1: That God's love can and will radically transform anyone, no

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Speaker 1: matter what you've done or where you are. If you're

1278
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Speaker 1: still breathing, God has a purpose and a plan for

1279
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Speaker 1: your life. You have to understand, like Todd was talking about,

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Speaker 1: the surrender, when you surrender totally and you just say Okay, God,

1281
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Speaker 1: not only do I receive you into my heart, but

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Speaker 1: I'll go where.

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Speaker 2: You want me to go.

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Speaker 1: I'll do what you want me to do. I'll be

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Speaker 1: what you want me to be. That is the prayer

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Speaker 1: of surrender. If you're watching today, you need prayer or

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Speaker 1: you pray that prayer. Our prayer partners are standing by.

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Speaker 1: We would love to pray with you, and I would

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Speaker 1: love to send you the Gospel of John. It's a

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Speaker 1: great place to start in the Bible, and you really

1291
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Speaker 1: need to get a Bible.

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Speaker 2: God is going to begin to speak to you through

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Speaker 2: his word. Get a Bible that you can understand.

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Speaker 1: It maybe in a more modern day vernacular than you

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Speaker 1: can understand, but it's important that you do that now.

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Speaker 1: I do want to thank Todd for joining us. If

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Speaker 1: you want to know more about his story so I

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Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, you can get a copy of his book

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Speaker 1: Life Is Short, and you can find out more about

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Speaker 1: his ministry at Lifestyle Christianity dot com.

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Speaker 2: As always, make sure.

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Speaker 2: We love hearing from our viewers.

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Speaker 1: You can also listen to the Jonny Table Talk podcast,

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Speaker 1: available now on all major platforms. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for watching. Thank you, ladies, we love you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Todd, thank you little soul winner.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think day time you go to a restaurant, Todd,

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Speaker 1: he ministers to every waiter, waitress. I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: come across his path, he's going to tell you about

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Speaker 1: Jesus Wow.

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Speaker 2: And we need to be more like that. We'll see

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Speaker 2: you next time. Bye bye for today.