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Speaker 1: your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon
Speaker 1: Gross Monday, the Star in Frisco. You're looking live at
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Speaker 1: eighty seven. High of ninety four, low of seventy five.
Speaker 1: Let's go before we get going, Thoughts and prayers out
Speaker 1: to everyone on the Gulf Coast. Yes, and my people
Speaker 1: back in Louisiana. Hope everybody's safe and can care of yourselves.
Speaker 1: Nasty storm last night, but get ready. As Nate just
Speaker 1: told us before we came on the show, for forty
Speaker 1: five minutes of excitement, you are listening to Hanging with
Speaker 1: the Bars. Nate Newton, Jesse Holly. We're without Kurt today.
Speaker 1: Kurt's a little under the weather, so hopefully he'll be
Speaker 1: back with us on Wednesday when we come back and
Speaker 1: Shannon Gross hosting this thing, and man, we are the
Speaker 1: first show of record to talk about the last preseason
Speaker 1: game of the year. Thank god it's over. What did
Speaker 1: you guys, anything to take away from Nat? The only
Speaker 1: thing that I I think, the only thing I took
Speaker 1: away from that game is that Tie and Sky did
Speaker 1: not play. So that kind of makes me think that
Speaker 1: he's on the team. Are you not? Everybody jumping? Don't
Speaker 1: help me out at all. Let me let me say this.
Speaker 1: Let me say this. I have nothing positive to say,
Speaker 1: and my grandmam and my mom always tells me if
Speaker 1: you have nothing positive to say, So, Jesse, I spoke
Speaker 1: to him at length right before we came. You don't
Speaker 1: jive say about what anything about football in general, about
Speaker 1: this team, about the last preseason game, what jes offensive line? Jesse.
Speaker 1: What's Nate trying to say? Nate is trying to say
Speaker 1: that he's over preseason. No, not only preseason, but Nate's
Speaker 1: over the handling of which this team goes about their business.
Speaker 1: Nate's over the fact that we think we can just
Speaker 1: show up and because we have the star on our helmets,
Speaker 1: because we have some names, because we have a couple
Speaker 1: of guys who have some contracts that we just show
Speaker 1: up and wins will just fall in abundance in our lap.
Speaker 1: And that's not the truth. And I know that, and
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the last preseason game. I know
Speaker 1: thirty something guys. Plea goes back to last year and
Speaker 1: the year before, but it just it's just Nate's kind
Speaker 1: of on the point of here we are getting ready
Speaker 1: to enter into a season, not like we've come. We've
Speaker 1: come off a championship winning season and have a championship
Speaker 1: winning roster, and just the way that the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: gone about their their business this entire offseason, this entire preseason,
Speaker 1: with holding guys back, not playing guys all these days off,
Speaker 1: you know, last preseason, and I know that we had
Speaker 1: four this year. Other people's had three. But just the
Speaker 1: fact of the matter that you set thirty something plus
Speaker 1: guys out as if none of those guys may have
Speaker 1: needed work or could have used some extra work, or
Speaker 1: could have used some just another opportunity to go out
Speaker 1: there and get some live action against and at least
Speaker 1: a decent quarterback in Trevor Lawrence here. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: no Hall of Fame quarterback yet but he's probably the
Speaker 1: best they would have seen so far. And I think
Speaker 1: that's just where he's at with that. And it's it's
Speaker 1: a little bit frustrating because we put on this front
Speaker 1: as if we are the greatest thing since sliced bread,
Speaker 1: and we aren't, but we act as if we are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is there anything to be said for them just trying
Speaker 1: to get to the season healthy and holding these guys out.
Speaker 1: We watched practice, me and you just we watched it,
Speaker 1: and the practice were Chris, they were good, So the
Speaker 1: coaches may have gotten what they needed, Jess. But the
Speaker 1: first preseason game, we get into the red zone twice,
Speaker 1: we give up a sack by the guy that did
Speaker 1: not play this last preseason game. Then the quarterback the
Speaker 1: next play, whether whether they were both at fault. The
Speaker 1: first play, the quarterback three step drop, hold the ball, boom,
Speaker 1: got beat him inside, left ticker, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: next play, left ticker, get beat inside again. Quarterback get
Speaker 1: hit kills that drive. We come to the second game,
Speaker 1: we throw interception as we're going across the forty. We
Speaker 1: have not had a clean Chris drive opening go back,
Speaker 1: and look, we have not as a backup quarterback as
Speaker 1: a backup offensive line had a clean just a drive.
Speaker 1: Now we got fortunate a game ago, and oh well,
Speaker 1: let's put Cooper Russian in boom, all of a sudden
Speaker 1: we score. Well, let's start Cooper Russian game. But oh not, Gilberts.
Speaker 1: I'm like saying to myself, this is too inconsistent. And
Speaker 1: I understand they had their starters and we had our backups,
Speaker 1: but what about when we had our backups versus their backups?
Speaker 1: We still didn't look good. We still to me, who
Speaker 1: is our swing tackle? Who is our swing tackle? Still? No,
Speaker 1: he gave up a sack opening up the first drive
Speaker 1: here in this pass game. And I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: these guys cannot be game playing and things can be
Speaker 1: better because you game planning. But when you saw the
Speaker 1: one on one skill factor, I love tackle tie In Sinky,
Speaker 1: and our right tackle still did not play well the
Speaker 1: whole preseason. So I want I want to know what
Speaker 1: gives unless he's hurt, and I will apologize if Ty's hurt,
Speaker 1: But what gives him the right to think that he
Speaker 1: don't need to practice? I'll be it our play a
Speaker 1: whole game that that that bothers me because Tyron Tyron Smith.
Speaker 1: I'm announcing it right. He has got it, he got it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Why y'all laughing at me? Are you laughing? Why are
Speaker 1: you laughing? Because may it's just ty I got it right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well Smith Smith, you got that part right. Smith. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you so you can laugh all you won't,
Speaker 1: but it won't be funny if this kid go down
Speaker 1: hurt and we got to deal with these swing tackles,
Speaker 1: it won't be funny then. All right, So you guys,
Speaker 1: how about you, Jesse? Are you is there anything to
Speaker 1: be said for Obviously this coaching staff is just wanting
Speaker 1: to get to the season healthy. Is there anything to
Speaker 1: be said for that? Are you willing to risk that
Speaker 1: to get more game speed reps? Because you got some
Speaker 1: dudes that have, think about it, even just this season,
Speaker 1: guys that have had, you know, health issues, Tank Amari
Speaker 1: Dak obviously, Uh, ty Ron Smith. Tyrant is nice? Tyrant?
Speaker 1: Where did this come from? Yeah, I'm just letting you know.
Speaker 1: I know his name. I'm gonna let you know. I
Speaker 1: know his name. Yeah, yeah, I know his name. But
Speaker 1: here's my biggest thing, and it all goes back to
Speaker 1: the repetition part of things. And with this new way
Speaker 1: that practice is being done. And maybe I'm the old guy,
Speaker 1: get off my long type of guy. There just isn't
Speaker 1: enough practice, or that these guys don't practice enough by
Speaker 1: schedule and by I guess caution or preservation from the
Speaker 1: coaching staff and the medical staff. Amari doesn't practice enough,
Speaker 1: Dak hadn't practiced enough, Tank hadn't practiced enough, Tyring hadn't practiced.
Speaker 1: These guys and they'll come in and even when they
Speaker 1: are live participants in practice, well, they're gonna do some
Speaker 1: one on one stuff, and they'll do some some team
Speaker 1: they'll do some line up stuff, and then we get
Speaker 1: to the team period and they're not in the team period.
Speaker 1: So to me, the level of ink insistency of all
Speaker 1: these guys piecing I think for the first time was
Speaker 1: it maybe a week ago. It was the first time
Speaker 1: we had all participants in the last six months. So
Speaker 1: it bothers you that they're not out there as a
Speaker 1: functioning whole unit is the big thing for you. I
Speaker 1: watched a little bit of that Tampa Bay game, and
Speaker 1: I watched just how surgical that offense was and how
Speaker 1: they just moved down the field and Tom with seven
Speaker 1: for seven, and I think about what we have to
Speaker 1: go up against in that type of unit. And then
Speaker 1: I watch, like you've you've you've birth it. Trey Von
Speaker 1: Diggs as your starting cornerback who only played a half
Speaker 1: a season, who still needs a ton of a lot
Speaker 1: of work. He's not He ain't Dion. Then you don't
Speaker 1: know if it's Kelvin. You don't know if if it's
Speaker 1: if Brown, You don't know if it's going to be
Speaker 1: the Oregon State kid. All those guys need work. Then
Speaker 1: who's gonna be playing in the slot. You still don't
Speaker 1: show about a safety situation. And then I watched those guys.
Speaker 1: I watched Tampa Bay work offensively, and I'm saying, oh boy,
Speaker 1: this is what we're getting ready to walk into that firestorm.
Speaker 1: When you see how surgical he is, Tom Brady, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about getting ready for the And then you look
Speaker 1: at what they do defensively. All those guys are there,
Speaker 1: all those guys are playing, all those guys are participating.
Speaker 1: I just I just look at how they're entering the
Speaker 1: season and how we're entering the season. And yes, I'm
Speaker 1: thankful that we're healthy, absolutely, but I just don't know
Speaker 1: I just don't like the fact that we are just
Speaker 1: so inconsistent where guys participating in practice and in preseason
Speaker 1: games and just all around playing together. And god forbid
Speaker 1: if we have any more of these situations where a
Speaker 1: guy test positive or close contact or something like that,
Speaker 1: because now you're gonna you know, you're gonna miss a
Speaker 1: couple more days because of that as well. So it's
Speaker 1: just a weird time that we're in. And this team
Speaker 1: is approaching this as if they have a formula that
Speaker 1: has been successful and conducive to them winning a lot
Speaker 1: of games and going with people into the playoffs, and
Speaker 1: we hadn't had that for a very long time. Coach
Speaker 1: parcel I said, if you can, if you've seen it
Speaker 1: once or twice, then you know what they expect. But
Speaker 1: we haven't seen it. That's my only thing. I haven't
Speaker 1: haven't seen them together with everybody clicking. And they can
Speaker 1: come to the first game and be clicking, and you know,
Speaker 1: I weren't about to be more excited than me. But
Speaker 1: I got road to seventeen and oh yeah yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: all right, let's take our first break when we come
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Speaker 1: do that very soon. All right? Should we even talk
Speaker 1: about this? This might be the quickest segment ever. Backup, quarterback?
Speaker 1: Do we even need to talk about it? We're screwed.
Speaker 1: Denuci's gonna wind up being on the practice squad again.
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna be mad because he's there. And then you
Speaker 1: still don't know if Cooper Rush or Gilbert's gonna be
Speaker 1: your number two? Right? Is it back to Gilbert? Now
Speaker 1: that's that's the decision for the head coach. Does it matter? No? Okay,
Speaker 1: move on, all right, good talk? On that one. Um,
Speaker 1: if we ever get to the backup quarterback, just know, people,
Speaker 1: we're screwed. Don't just seem deserved to have a competent one.
Speaker 1: I don't you know what. I don't think I would
Speaker 1: go spend four or five million dollars to get one.
Speaker 1: You did last We did last year and it didn't help.
Speaker 1: You did the same thing you spent a little bit
Speaker 1: money with. Uh with the Castle situation, Yeah, it didn't help,
Speaker 1: didn't work. Who else do we had? Didn't we Who
Speaker 1: else do we have? You've had a few come through here,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, if your guy goes down, and
Speaker 1: I know, I know what you're trying to do. You're
Speaker 1: trying to if that goes down for four or five games,
Speaker 1: you want a guy that's gonna win you two or
Speaker 1: three games to keep you in the hunt. But at
Speaker 1: what costs, Like if you go spend that money, I
Speaker 1: just I don't know if I would do it, especially
Speaker 1: this late in the game. I don't think I would
Speaker 1: do it since we're gonna be worrying about finances. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's let's wait three or four games. See where the
Speaker 1: defense that if the defense whooping ahead and doing what
Speaker 1: they're supposed to do and being able to turn the
Speaker 1: ball over and go get a guy. You go get
Speaker 1: a guy. Give this chance team a chance. Cause the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, we're kind of before they got their guy, Tannehill,
Speaker 1: they were kind of in this situation and they battled
Speaker 1: every year to make sure they get us. They'd be
Speaker 1: fightful that last playoffs spot, and a couple of years
Speaker 1: they got in. Don't this team deserve that too? If
Speaker 1: the defense, now, if the defense is just giving up
Speaker 1: gobs and gobs of points, don't you know I kind
Speaker 1: of like that mentality. Let's see where you're at on defense,
Speaker 1: because if you don't, if your defense is any any
Speaker 1: resemblance of last year, it don't matter who you put
Speaker 1: in there. If you ain't scoring forty, you don't really
Speaker 1: have a chance to win a game. So why go
Speaker 1: waste that money? But if you got a defense is
Speaker 1: holding guys to twenty twenty five points, go invest, trade
Speaker 1: somebody do something which you think I like that, Nate? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You think? I mean you're given that. You said we
Speaker 1: have the defense six weeks, no, no, four to five? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the reason I say six six weeks before you
Speaker 1: panic to five. This because the way coach Quinn is
Speaker 1: working these guys, and the way these guys have seemed
Speaker 1: to understand who they are and what they are, and
Speaker 1: the way and the way they're not waiting with the
Speaker 1: young players. They're there even though that's all they have
Speaker 1: as young players, and everybody else heard or either on
Speaker 1: the COVID list, you know, so you four to play
Speaker 1: these guys. But let's see on the fire. Because when
Speaker 1: I turn on my radio this morning, you know, coming
Speaker 1: in the NFL network, and this dude went play by
Speaker 1: play with Tom Brady, the radio announcer, I said, God,
Speaker 1: that's what got me in a panic, and Tom Brady
Speaker 1: complete it with a touchdown seven for seven. Sometimes I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. I know it's preseason and they're not
Speaker 1: supposed to we we we Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is
Speaker 1: who we dream to be with dominant receivers, could running
Speaker 1: back and a quarterback. Yeah. And what you want to
Speaker 1: do is I want to create matchup problems at every
Speaker 1: single turn. And I want to have a quarterback that
Speaker 1: comes to the line of scrimmage and says, here's where
Speaker 1: the football is going to go and why and get
Speaker 1: it there. Quickly, and that's why when I watched that,
Speaker 1: I saw that and it just was bing bing bing
Speaker 1: bing bing bing. Touchdown. But that comes with practice, practice,
Speaker 1: that comes with being able to be out there. That
Speaker 1: comes with and again we all understand it. We all
Speaker 1: know if it was left up to Dak, he would
Speaker 1: practice as much as he possibly can. I'm not calling
Speaker 1: him out. I'm just saying overall the approach that they
Speaker 1: went into it, and it feels more, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: honest with you, it feels more of a little bit
Speaker 1: of self preservation. For Mike McCarthy, Wait a minute, have
Speaker 1: you turned no? No, no, no, no no, no, no, no
Speaker 1: my guy. But I think for him is he's more
Speaker 1: so of I want to do whatever I possibly can
Speaker 1: to just get there and then once we get there,
Speaker 1: then I figure the rest out. But it just feels
Speaker 1: like there is no you know, Bruce Arian says, no
Speaker 1: risk it, no biscuit, and I seem like Mirke McCarthy
Speaker 1: is saying the opposite, the opposite, like I ain't. I
Speaker 1: just want to because it went so bad last year,
Speaker 1: and he knows, and like we know, we can't have
Speaker 1: a performance offensively, defensively or as a team that what
Speaker 1: we had last year, because if we do, the very
Speaker 1: likelihood of him being replaced is high. So it's just like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, it seemed like he's more of on this
Speaker 1: reserve type deal of I just want to get everybody
Speaker 1: to Week one and we'll see what happens. Then, Well,
Speaker 1: if we upset them town for bab bandism, I mean bucks,
Speaker 1: you know you know I'm not. I'm just gonna wait
Speaker 1: and see. I'm not upset like you guys. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna wait and see. Is this the right way to
Speaker 1: do it. I don't know because we've never seen but
Speaker 1: we've never seen it. But the MS, the Rams, the
Speaker 1: Rams do it this way. They have more practices. They
Speaker 1: players are required to practice a little bit more. They have,
Speaker 1: you know, the inter squad scrimmages between other teams, so
Speaker 1: you see more. And we had a bunch of walks
Speaker 1: through the see. But what scares me is we had
Speaker 1: even would have just had one or two series where
Speaker 1: we was in the red zone. The first game the
Speaker 1: first pre season, we rid zone twice and and just
Speaker 1: bad think quarterback held the ball left tackle just give
Speaker 1: I mean give up a sack like whoa. That was
Speaker 1: too quick on the three step drop? How do you
Speaker 1: give him a sacking on three step drop? And so
Speaker 1: you said to myself, wow, And then you watch the
Speaker 1: other games, and then you flip over here to Kansas City,
Speaker 1: or you flip over here to Tampa Bay and they
Speaker 1: back up quarterback just nine nine for eleven backups. We
Speaker 1: got backups and our back ups practicing every day like
Speaker 1: they backups, and I'm like, wow, they can't be that moven.
Speaker 1: Even more so because our starting quarterbacks now practice here.
Speaker 1: And here's why I think we also have this panic mold.
Speaker 1: It wasn't practicing because we've seen too much of these
Speaker 1: damn backups. Yeah, this is why, because if we would
Speaker 1: have seen a a full on training camp of a
Speaker 1: lot of Dak in practice every single day, we wouldn't
Speaker 1: have this level of anxiety about it. We've seen Garrett
Speaker 1: Gilbert too much, We've seen Cooper rushe Ben Ducci too much,
Speaker 1: and so we've had this long drawn out opportunity to
Speaker 1: pick them apart. Is because we've seen much of all.
Speaker 1: You've seen me and Chris talk about that out of
Speaker 1: practice all the time, you forget how good Dak is
Speaker 1: because you haven't seen him and when he gets back
Speaker 1: out there, it's just like, like you said, being being being,
Speaker 1: but we haven't seen it in a game to make
Speaker 1: us feel better about Okay, are they on the same
Speaker 1: page at game speed like practice? Okay? And then right
Speaker 1: right on top of that, all we can remember is
Speaker 1: last year's defense. Yes, yeah, like I memory, we are
Speaker 1: no points and that's ext in our mind. How many
Speaker 1: points get scored against us? Yeah, and that's the thing,
Speaker 1: like we don't have any good memories to kind of
Speaker 1: hang our hat on. It's like even like we can't
Speaker 1: think back to the first three or four games of
Speaker 1: that season. Even then we struggled in. We scored a
Speaker 1: lot of points, but we struggled in. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: we're we're like almost in like in this ps PS
Speaker 1: what's called TSD situation where we're trying to we're trying
Speaker 1: to find some good things, but we we get reminded
Speaker 1: that Garrett Gilbert is here or that isn't that just
Speaker 1: being a cowboy fan in general? Because right when you
Speaker 1: get over it, you're like, I'm moving forward. I'm forgetting
Speaker 1: the past. Damned happened to wowow. But if we if
Speaker 1: we would have seen a series or two or three
Speaker 1: of Zeke Dak Yes, yeah, yes, CD yeah, two or
Speaker 1: three series. People like oh, because then we're gonna say, oh,
Speaker 1: forget what those guys look like. Did you see those
Speaker 1: first rest of them? You know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: we but we always see we see Zeke laughing on
Speaker 1: the sideline eating sunflower seeds. We see Dak changing hats
Speaker 1: every single game, you know what I'm saying. We see
Speaker 1: rolling up wormies. Yeah, you know what those things called gummies? Gummy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what mean, don't eat on the candy on the sideline.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, things. But and then we get hard knocks, right,
Speaker 1: which then takes a deeper dive look into boy things
Speaker 1: about around there right when you gotta figure out my
Speaker 1: man with the contact and you gotta listen to Benja
Speaker 1: Nucci throw three and the So it's like everywhere that
Speaker 1: we turned, we're not we're not getting anything rosy. We're
Speaker 1: getting all of the kind of the bad side of
Speaker 1: what this football team could be because we don't see
Speaker 1: enough of the good side. And what's that game that
Speaker 1: you and Chris play, Call of Duty? It seemed like
Speaker 1: a lot of that's happen. And then you know what
Speaker 1: they're gonna They're gonna roll out to Tampa Bay in
Speaker 1: a week and a half and they gonna whoop the
Speaker 1: whoop the Bucks, and everybody's gonna be like, man, they
Speaker 1: knew what they were doing all along, and you know
Speaker 1: what they had play. They got they got me room,
Speaker 1: and they got into the party and they figured it out.
Speaker 1: I would dance with the homecoming Queen. I would. I
Speaker 1: would be on board with that. If that was the
Speaker 1: case and that happened, I would be like, Okay, let's
Speaker 1: go freaky Mike. So you heard it here. If they
Speaker 1: beat the Bucks, everybody in this room was gonna be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I was wrong. Everybody that I was wrong, and please
Speaker 1: bring it back hard knocks next year. I'll be down
Speaker 1: with it. But now you have to do more than
Speaker 1: one game like that. But but that's going back to
Speaker 1: what but going back to what you just said, that's
Speaker 1: typical cowboys. Yeah, it is. The will suck you in
Speaker 1: and they'll suck you in and we'll don't beat Tampa
Speaker 1: by two touchdowns and then get boat raced by the Chargers.
Speaker 1: You don't do that. But that's but that's that's the
Speaker 1: cowboy life. That we've lived. Don't do that right, that's
Speaker 1: the roller coaster. That's the roller coaster. Like we roller
Speaker 1: coast in this. We'll beat well Man. We'll be out
Speaker 1: there on on on six thirty five, celebrate like we
Speaker 1: want to beat Tampa Bay by two touchdowns and the
Speaker 1: whole city will be lit. Which one of you driving?
Speaker 1: Which one of you flying the flag after window? Don't
Speaker 1: bring that up driving me, Nate, don't bring that stuff.
Speaker 1: But that's a bad reference. Let's take a brapping man,
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. We are kurtless, but I
Speaker 1: got Jesse Holly, I got Nate Newton, got myself. I
Speaker 1: got Chris Beam working in the back. I got William
Speaker 1: keeping us up on the live streams. It's Monday. We're
Speaker 1: the first show to talk about the last preseason game,
Speaker 1: which we didn't really talk about much because it wasn't
Speaker 1: a whole lot to talk about. But one thing before
Speaker 1: we get out of here them on the show today
Speaker 1: cuts or tomorrow at four pm, I believe Central time.
Speaker 1: What positions we did you go along at? Where would
Speaker 1: you keep an extra guy on this team? Then missus
Speaker 1: Jones said, your guy made it, Malik Turner. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Did you hear that yesterday? Chris, I couldn't hear him.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, Malikue Turner, he made the team. Nate
Speaker 1: said he thought he heard mister Jones say that he
Speaker 1: was on the team. I think he said, Malikue Hooker. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's on the bubble. He would be your sixth receivers
Speaker 1: receiving thank you, thank you. Yeah. Okay, well, okay, that's
Speaker 1: already understood. That's where they're going along at a safety Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm telling it's right here. You Finally we got
Speaker 1: linebackers that can be on the special teams. And I
Speaker 1: think that's where we should go along at, you know,
Speaker 1: because finally we got linebackers that can play on the
Speaker 1: special teams. And if you got good line good athletic
Speaker 1: linebackers that can play all the special teams, you tend
Speaker 1: to have a strong dad and your safety's like, you know,
Speaker 1: that is a good thing. I don't you brought it
Speaker 1: up special teams. I don't want to spend more than
Speaker 1: less than a minute on you better spend you better
Speaker 1: spend more than a minute, because that is what besides
Speaker 1: the defense that I just want to talk about the kicker.
Speaker 1: Does it bother you that the kicker missed the Was
Speaker 1: that the only field goal he's tried in preseason? But
Speaker 1: he kicked it about seventy five yards, but he just
Speaker 1: missed it a little left? Does that bother you with
Speaker 1: a bad back that he played? No, Na, you just
Speaker 1: now he goes back to him. My original point, nobody's
Speaker 1: practiced nobody. Yeah, nobody's practicing enough. And then you know
Speaker 1: he's been on the was a pup. He's been on
Speaker 1: the pupple I are whatever. He's been for the entire
Speaker 1: training camp. Yeah, it's been on a pup and then
Speaker 1: you put him in the game and you have him kick.
Speaker 1: Was it fifty two yards? It was fifty seven, so
Speaker 1: I mean it would have been good from about seventy
Speaker 1: when you think Chris, yeah, oh yeah it was. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing about that is I looked at his stats.
Speaker 1: His longest is sixty one, but he picked it like
Speaker 1: seven years ago. His longest since then as like fifty eight,
Speaker 1: So that would have been close to his longest he's
Speaker 1: made in the last six years. So it does it
Speaker 1: does mean no good. If you're driving the wrong way fast,
Speaker 1: it doesn't no good. And he kicked in the mile
Speaker 1: outside of the uprights. I mean, so my point is
Speaker 1: is that those are the small things, like they're gonna
Speaker 1: come a point in time, we're gonna need a field goal, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a fifty seven yard or maybe yeah, all right, It's
Speaker 1: not like he missed it like way left. I mean
Speaker 1: he I mean, it was barely by the left uprights.
Speaker 1: Still three did it go through? But it did not
Speaker 1: go three points? Three points. Good observation, Chris, But say
Speaker 1: your point is almost gotten to that end zone in
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Yeah, they didn't give me six quit celebrating
Speaker 1: for it didn't give me six Okay, since we think
Speaker 1: maybe linebacker and safeties where they will go long, are
Speaker 1: you concerned about any positions? What position group concerned you
Speaker 1: on this team? Offensive line? Really? I would agree yeah,
Speaker 1: because because the depth or just because you hadn't seen
Speaker 1: him work together. Both Yeah, and I don't know. I
Speaker 1: feel like we're being like the negative show right out
Speaker 1: the gate. But lyell stingers for the second time. And
Speaker 1: for those that don't know, anytime you're dealing with stingers,
Speaker 1: that's that's a ligament muscial type issue. The only way
Speaker 1: you get only way you deal with those rest rest,
Speaker 1: which means he won't be practicing and which means can
Speaker 1: flareback up again at any point in time of the season,
Speaker 1: Right Tyron Tyron Smith. It's not if, but when he's
Speaker 1: going to miss two or three or more games this season,
Speaker 1: and when you go back and you got Steal you
Speaker 1: got and Secky you got. Um, what's the other ball? Ball?
Speaker 1: Like these are the guy that you're gonna now have
Speaker 1: to march out there, when these are the guys who
Speaker 1: were given up sacks on three step drops. So to me,
Speaker 1: what is his strength if healthy if you could promise
Speaker 1: me that that our offensive line. Oh and by the way,
Speaker 1: like Nate said earlier, if Tyler Biadish happens to go
Speaker 1: down for any given reason, we now have to change
Speaker 1: our completely. We have to change the way we approach
Speaker 1: offensive offensive play calling completely because whoever's the backup center,
Speaker 1: Connor Williams, he can't shotgun snap. Did I see him yesterday?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. He's in COVID. Remember he was
Speaker 1: in the COVID. I thought that was Connor McGovern. It
Speaker 1: was Williams over sixty six was playing. You look at
Speaker 1: all you look at all these things you're saying. Man,
Speaker 1: if if one of three of those guys go down,
Speaker 1: we had some sort of trouble. If your left tackle
Speaker 1: goes down, you in some trouble. You can probably get
Speaker 1: over a little bit if your right tackle goes down,
Speaker 1: because you can move Zack Martin out there and kind
Speaker 1: of piece something together or put a tight en on
Speaker 1: that side a little bit, or the back will always
Speaker 1: go to that side to help out. But if your
Speaker 1: center goes down and now one of one of those
Speaker 1: those snaps goes over dak heads or between his legs
Speaker 1: or to the left or to the right because or
Speaker 1: we have to do everything under shotgun I mean understanding now,
Speaker 1: because we can't do shotgun because you don't know when
Speaker 1: the next snap is gonna go over his head. That's
Speaker 1: concerning to me. You're concerned about a position group, Nate,
Speaker 1: that's when we talked about that's say everything we talk
Speaker 1: You don't want a problem, you know, and uh, it's
Speaker 1: just you know, you you go to bed at ninety
Speaker 1: one and the last things you pray for and oh yeah, okay, God,
Speaker 1: don't let the Cowboys get hurt because they ain't never
Speaker 1: shoulders there if they lose one guy that they can
Speaker 1: win without losing this one guy. You know, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. We got five four and a half minutes left.
Speaker 1: I don't like the way this show is gone for
Speaker 1: the last forty minutes. All right, let's end this on
Speaker 1: a positive note. Okay, Okay, let's change directions because I
Speaker 1: am not feeling really good about starting my Monday off
Speaker 1: the way that we have put this out in the universe,
Speaker 1: because it's it's got me a little depressed about Cowboys football.
Speaker 1: So let's let's do this. What was the day, like
Speaker 1: the first time that you made a cut to make
Speaker 1: it on an NFL roster. But it happened to both
Speaker 1: of you, guys. You were both bubble guys. What was
Speaker 1: that daylight? Do you remember the day the first time
Speaker 1: you made it onto the roster? You remember what you did?
Speaker 1: I don't, Jesus, that makes something up, Jesse like light
Speaker 1: of the people like. I want to end the note
Speaker 1: on a feel good story to send us out into
Speaker 1: the week feeling good. Right back from Minnesota when you
Speaker 1: got that touchdown? How about that that? Okay? So after
Speaker 1: that game, I can give you this. Here we go, Ri,
Speaker 1: thank you, Chris. Here's why. Here's right. I don't remember.
Speaker 1: Do not remember? He just did a documentary on himself
Speaker 1: and remembers every moment in his life since the time
Speaker 1: he was probably two years old, and he can't remember
Speaker 1: one of the biggest moments of his life. By the way,
Speaker 1: but I saw some clips from the documentary. Was good.
Speaker 1: I was nervous at first. Yeah, I was driving over
Speaker 1: to Steve's house to do some voiceover stuff. Got some
Speaker 1: big shoes to feel because that war story has when
Speaker 1: killed it. Now war stories killed it. But this one
Speaker 1: is gonna pull out your heartstrings. The the emotional roller
Speaker 1: culsture that you're gonna go on on this one is
Speaker 1: gonna be it? Is it up to date? Story? Does
Speaker 1: it include Nate leaving you for k put that in
Speaker 1: and the directors and the director's cut. Minnesota. So after
Speaker 1: the Minnesota game, I'm in the locker room. I'm getting
Speaker 1: dressed and this preseason this pre scored kickoff return R
Speaker 1: two yard part return for a touchdown UM to win
Speaker 1: the game in Minnesota. In the locker room, I'm getting
Speaker 1: dressed and mister Jones walks up to me and he
Speaker 1: goes son, I've been a part of the Cowboys for
Speaker 1: almost thirty years. I've been what he says, I've been
Speaker 1: around football all my life. I've never seen a play
Speaker 1: like that before ever. Great job. First time he's ever
Speaker 1: talked to you. No, I mean talk to me at
Speaker 1: the show like I was. I wasn't your normal practice
Speaker 1: like on the bubble guy, like I had a little
Speaker 1: I had a little bit of kind of pulp coming
Speaker 1: with little face. But he was like he gave me
Speaker 1: that look. It was like I've never seen anything like before.
Speaker 1: Great job. See you Like He's like, see you tomorrow
Speaker 1: or something like that, and it kind of gave me,
Speaker 1: like that old smack on the Facebook. I didn't appreciate that,
Speaker 1: but I took it. You know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: gave me. He gave me. He gave me the old
Speaker 1: smack on the face and walked off. And I kind
Speaker 1: of I was like, if it was a tallion, that's
Speaker 1: probably been a death death. So they do it. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm like, I'm just joking the men planning
Speaker 1: your face like that. But he gave me, gave it
Speaker 1: to me. I took it, you know, I accepted it.
Speaker 1: And and but he gave me that smile on the
Speaker 1: double Smack Pop Pop. It was like, I see you
Speaker 1: tomorrow and your mind's probably like, what does that mean?
Speaker 1: Does that mean I made it? The small comforted me.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, it wasn't. It was. It was a genuine
Speaker 1: happy smile for me. And I was like, that might
Speaker 1: have might have got you on the team. That might
Speaker 1: have that might have done it. What about you, Nate,
Speaker 1: You remember the first time you made your NFL roster? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because when they when they did, they cut then I've
Speaker 1: spent the next seven days praying that they wouldn't get
Speaker 1: me on the second round because there's the cut that's
Speaker 1: gonna happen here, the big deadline, the big cut. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, they scanning rosters for
Speaker 1: the next week or two. Right, it's seeing if there's
Speaker 1: somebody they want to pick up drop somebody else. And
Speaker 1: that's a great point, n because it's real and a
Speaker 1: lot of people may not know this a lot of
Speaker 1: times veterans. If you're a veteran player, Yeah, if you're
Speaker 1: on the roster at the beginning of the season, your
Speaker 1: salary is fully guaranteed no matter what. If you're not
Speaker 1: on the roster after week one, then your salary if
Speaker 1: they don't guarantee any money. And it's basically pro rated.
Speaker 1: It's basically week after week after week after week. So
Speaker 1: a lot of teams will wait till after week one
Speaker 1: to save money and go and pick up a guy.
Speaker 1: So Nate's right, there's that initial cut, and then it's
Speaker 1: the veteran after week one cut that they'll come back
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, there's a guy that we wanted,
Speaker 1: but he was a vet and said we didn't want
Speaker 1: we want to show him on the guarantee and that
Speaker 1: whole five million that we might have to pay him
Speaker 1: this year, so now we can just pay him by game.
Speaker 1: So there are That's that's a great point. People don't
Speaker 1: know when you make it, you're still sweating a little bit,
Speaker 1: yeahcause they see somebody else on the other team that
Speaker 1: they like. I never stopped sweating because I understood, like
Speaker 1: once I learned the business of football, and I understood,
Speaker 1: even though you made it, you're technically still on the bubble.
Speaker 1: You're never safe because yeah, number I'm the number five receiver.
Speaker 1: I'm not starting core special teams. If we happen to
Speaker 1: go light somewhere else, my name gets brought up in
Speaker 1: them and the pool of players who can who'll be
Speaker 1: letting go to bringing another guy to feeling that you know,
Speaker 1: we hey, we need we need linebacker. When you know
Speaker 1: who we gonna are, We're gonna let go because we
Speaker 1: don't have any more roster spots. Gotta let somebody go
Speaker 1: to bring somebody on. And all right, well thanks for
Speaker 1: letting me in this on a on a halfway positive. No,
Speaker 1: you know what, Wednesday, We're back Wednesday, right, Chris and
Speaker 1: Friday this week nine thirty, we may just take calls
Speaker 1: the whole damn show. Let's do it people want to
Speaker 1: talking about preseason. I'm tired of talking about the backup
Speaker 1: quarterback position. Let's maybe we just take calls and hear
Speaker 1: what you guys want to talk about. We got some
Speaker 1: maddened stuff too. Oh yeah, yeah, let's do something. Nate's
Speaker 1: Madden experience and phone calls all day Wednesday, so tune in.
Speaker 1: The show is for the people on Wednesday. Nate Jesse,
Speaker 1: thanks for being here. Chris, thanks for keeping us on
Speaker 1: a lot of people from the FIGN lands call in William,
Speaker 1: thanks for keeping us up on the live streams. We'll
Speaker 1: be back Wednesday, nine thirty for the people. This has
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