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Speaker 1: and I wish people would stop with this. This is

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Speaker 1: why they can't put me on air at places like CNN,

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Speaker 1: because I'll just annihilate some of the very dishonest tropes

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Speaker 1: they will trot out at at a convenient moment, like,

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Speaker 1: for example, if someone's worked for the intelligence community for

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Speaker 1: like twenty years, they're just a public servant, you know,

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Speaker 1: an honorable public servant. These are the phrases that don't

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Speaker 1: even really mean anything. Trust me, you don't stop having

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Speaker 1: opinions and ideas, and you don't give up vanity and

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Speaker 1: and well ambition, maybe someone in the federal guverment. But

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Speaker 1: if you don't give up vanity just because you happen

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Speaker 1: to work as a civil servant, um, and you may

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Speaker 1: very well have ideological motivations for what you are doing

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Speaker 1: in a partisan sense, right. I mean I joined the

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Speaker 1: CIA because I wanted to help fight against al Qaeda.

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Speaker 1: That was why did I do a good job or not?

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe a discussion for another time. I did

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Speaker 1: the best I could, But the point is that was

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Speaker 1: why I joined. Certainly wasn't for the money. It certainly

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Speaker 1: wasn't for the glory. Uh. But Brennan is held out

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Speaker 1: to Oh he's not. This is a very very partisan guy,

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Speaker 1: and he goes out there and says things like the

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Speaker 1: following on the sun A Shows, Meet the Press. Well,

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Speaker 1: there were things in that docier that made me wonder

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Speaker 1: whether or not they would they were in fact accurate

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Speaker 1: and true. Uh, And I do think it was up

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Speaker 1: to the FBI to see whether or not they could

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Speaker 1: verify any of it. I think Jim Comey has said

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Speaker 1: that it was contained selasious and unverified information. Just because

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Speaker 1: it was unverified didn't mean it wasn't true. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember everyone that or maybe I tweeted this the camera,

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Speaker 1: if I said it on the show, or I tweeted this.

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Speaker 1: But if it rings true, it is true. That's really

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Speaker 1: the left approach to the entirety of the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: That that was actually a perfect encapsulation of how the

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Speaker 1: media treats Trump, how the media deals with Trump. If

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Speaker 1: it rings true, it is true. Here you have the

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Speaker 1: former CIA director who's getting pretty close to saying the

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Speaker 1: same thing. I know it's not exactly the same thing,

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Speaker 1: but just because it's unverified doesn't mean it wasn't true.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, let's deal with that for a second. Um,

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Speaker 1: let me start with if we're going to start basing legal,

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Speaker 1: legally binding processes like a Phis Accord and eliminating the

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Speaker 1: Fourth Amendment rights of American citizens through surveillance and intelligence

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Speaker 1: gathering processes based upon unverified information. Then my theorizing with

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Speaker 1: you recently about how they could just open up fires

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Speaker 1: a warrant on anyone for basically any reason, because all

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Speaker 1: the takes is someone to show up and say, you know,

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Speaker 1: so and so is talking to you know, so and

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Speaker 1: so is talking to the Chinese about some espionage stuff

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Speaker 1: or something you know you better get to and says

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Speaker 1: it no verification. They're gonna start, you know, think about

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Speaker 1: the the implications of what this means for law enforcement folks.

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Speaker 1: And I know we have a lot a lot of

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Speaker 1: law enforcement that are listening to this show right now.

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Speaker 1: And God bless and thank you for what you do.

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Speaker 1: But if all of a sudden, law enforcement could just

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Speaker 1: you know, kick I mean, I did say this is

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Speaker 1: kind of like the intelligence version of squatting, right if

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Speaker 1: law enforcement all of a sudden is showing up and

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Speaker 1: just kicking indoors because somebody doesn't like you and they

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Speaker 1: said that you know, you're running a meth lab in

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Speaker 1: your kitchen and they don't do any due diligence or

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Speaker 1: fact checking, and they come, you know, running in through

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Speaker 1: your living room with a bear cat and start you know,

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Speaker 1: throwing flash bangs everywhere, and little Foo Foo, the kitty

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Speaker 1: cat is getting all scared and you're freaked out. That's

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Speaker 1: not okay, we don't want that. But there has to

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Speaker 1: be some verification beyond just what somebody says. A major

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Speaker 1: part of that is also who is the person saying it,

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Speaker 1: what are their motivations. I mean, this is actually all

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Speaker 1: intelligence analysis, one at one, by the way, which is

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Speaker 1: why I find all these stories so interesting and why

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Speaker 1: I hope you find it worthwhile to have a former

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Speaker 1: intelligence analyst talking to you and working with you on

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Speaker 1: all these issues here on this show me. But by

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Speaker 1: the way, Brennan said, uh, Docier, which is just her

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Speaker 1: amount Brennan. When Brennan was at the When Brennan was

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Speaker 1: at the agency, it was when one of it was

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Speaker 1: when you had the whole And don't you know, you

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Speaker 1: can say this is a nothing burger, but I don't

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Speaker 1: care because it made me annoyed. Brendan was at the CIA,

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Speaker 1: and that was when the federal government was in the

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Speaker 1: whole Uh, it's not. It's not. Um, what's the gosh

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Speaker 1: I'm isis it's Isle, right, and you're President Obama eisl Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's oh, we gotta dobleisl And everyone's like, what the

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Speaker 1: heck is this isl crap? Just say isis the Islamic

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Speaker 1: state of rock and Syria. Well you'll notice it's all

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Speaker 1: gone away all of a sudden. We don't have to

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Speaker 1: say ISCEL anymore. This is just Obama and some of

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Speaker 1: his top people like, we're we're smart, We're gonna like Eisol.

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Speaker 1: There's no basis in reality for this whatsoever makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: I know people say, oh, sham in Arabic was closer

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Speaker 1: to levant where America. We can call it what we

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Speaker 1: want to call it. It's the Islamic It was the

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Speaker 1: Islamic state of Irackan Syria. All right. But you know,

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Speaker 1: so Brandon was at the eight, it was at the agency.

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Speaker 1: He's director when we're saying ISCEL all the time, and

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Speaker 1: now he's running around saying, uh, doucier o the doocey

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Speaker 1: it just say dos see a buddy. I know this

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Speaker 1: is a little thing and I'm nitpicking here, but whatever

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Speaker 1: the point is, I don't like it. And his notion

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Speaker 1: that just because it's unverified doesn't mean it's not true.

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Speaker 1: That's so misleading in so many ways, because, as I

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Speaker 1: was saying to you, this isn't just information that they

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Speaker 1: wanted to run to ground and check. They took action

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Speaker 1: based on unverified information. And I'm here to tell you

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Speaker 1: that a lot of raw intel is crap. A lot

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Speaker 1: of it. Raw intel means the information that just comes

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Speaker 1: into the various sources of information that we have out

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Speaker 1: there in law enforcement, the intelligence community, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of you again going to law enforcement world, Yeah, does

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Speaker 1: every source who comes to you and says, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know I so and so's uh, you know, running a

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Speaker 1: running a chop shop on the other side of town,

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Speaker 1: You're just like, oh, let's get the swat team. I mean,

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Speaker 1: usually you're gonna write, I mean, you guys know, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna do a little checking because if if not, you're

545
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Speaker 1: gonna show up, but with a squat team thinking you're

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Speaker 1: breaking up a meth lab or a chop shop, and

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be like Luigi's pizzeria, and you're gonna terrify

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Speaker 1: a bunch of people for no reason. And you can

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Speaker 1: find out that the guy who called he was actually

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Speaker 1: Luigi's competition, Mario. Right. So the point here is they

551
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Speaker 1: have to check the information because if you take action

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Speaker 1: on unverified information, think about what that opens us up to.

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Speaker 1: Most s raw intel is crap. Any of you who

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Speaker 1: have worked in the government military, you know this, right,

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Speaker 1: there's some clown to walk in somewhere to a government building, lucker.

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Speaker 1: You know, yes, uh Osama bin Laden is hiding under

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Speaker 1: my bed. I would like a million dollars please. And

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Speaker 1: you know, technically you may have to report up a

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Speaker 1: chain of command that there's a guy who says Osama's

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Speaker 1: hiding under his bed at home and he wants a

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Speaker 1: million dollars. But if you were to have sealed Team

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Speaker 1: six repel from helicopters at this guy's home looking for

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Speaker 1: Osama under the bed, people are gonna be like, mm hmm,

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Speaker 1: that's probably a for a whole bunch of reasons, a

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Speaker 1: bad idea. But notice again the dishonesty from one of

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Speaker 1: the formerly most senior bureaucrats in the whole intelligence community.

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Speaker 1: Just because it's unverified doesn't mean it isn't true. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's not the point. You can't take action on it

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Speaker 1: until it is verified, and therefore you know that it

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Speaker 1: is true, because if you take action based on unverified information,

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Speaker 1: you pollute and distort and degrade the entire process, whether

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Speaker 1: it's law enforcement, fies, a warrants, intelligence collection. They keep

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Speaker 1: talking about undermining institutions. My friends, I can't tell you

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Speaker 1: this is you want to you want to undermine institutions.

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Speaker 1: Convince the American people that you can open up and

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Speaker 1: all encompassing like communications fis a warrant on them based

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Speaker 1: on what some dude said to some dude that nobody

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Speaker 1: ever checked. That's pretty big deal. Oh, the media, it's

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Speaker 1: but it's a dud, you see, it's a dud. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing is a dud. M. I haven't even

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Speaker 1: gotten into the State Department side of this yet. By

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Speaker 1: the way, we're gonna have some fun with that one.

583
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Speaker 1: Oh yes, I enjoy taking swipes at the State Department.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna happen. Uh. We'll also take some of your

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Speaker 1: calls eight four four nine buck eight four to eight

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Speaker 1: to five. We have much more show. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: Sarah just to give you. I'm gonna say that and

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Speaker 1: not tell you no, no no, I'm gonna tell you we

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Speaker 1: have Sarah Carter joining for a deep dive on all

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Speaker 1: this in the second part of the next hour, also

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Speaker 1: going to talk to you a little bit, just a

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Speaker 1: little thoughts on the super Bowl and nachos, and Justin

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Speaker 1: timber Lake will get there. That's third hour, Uh make

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Speaker 1: fun of Hillary. Third hour. That's gonna be great. And

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Speaker 1: then end of the show. I actually have some really

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Speaker 1: uh serious but heartfelt and worthwhile stuff to talk to

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Speaker 1: you about, not about me, but about just wisdom that

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Speaker 1: I saw somewhere online and wanted to share with you,

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Speaker 1: and I think you'll particular today. I would hope that

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Speaker 1: all of you get a chance to either stick around

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Speaker 1: until the end of the show or at least download

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Speaker 1: this podcast and listen to the uh well, hopefully the

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Speaker 1: whole show, but certally the end of the show, because

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Speaker 1: I think we'll find it really, really worthwhile. And with

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Speaker 1: that we'll run into a quick break. Alright to we've

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Speaker 1: got some lines. Let let's get to it. Patrick in Wabash, Indiana,

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Speaker 1: what's up, Patrick, Yes, I wanted to know what you

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Speaker 1: think about nobody's taking this serious enough. Why isn't this

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Speaker 1: dossier false? Dossier? And the uranium one deal. Why isn't

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Speaker 1: it subversion and treason? Fel and Julius Rosenberg have nothing

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Speaker 1: on Hillary and Obama administration all finding off on this

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Speaker 1: uranium one and the uranium goes to our enemy Russia

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Speaker 1: and now be selling to Iran and UH North Korea. Okay, Patrick,

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Speaker 1: hold on, let's slow down a little bit, and I

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Speaker 1: appreciate your passion. A few things here to keep in mind.

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Speaker 1: One is that on um the Rosenberg's stealing nuclear secrets

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Speaker 1: and and and giving them to our mortal enemies, the

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Speaker 1: Soviet Union at the time is that's a very specific thing,

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Speaker 1: and it actually does fall under the category of espionage.

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Speaker 1: I believe they were the last people executed in this

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Speaker 1: country for espionage, if memory serves UH. Others have all

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Speaker 1: gotten life sentences, the worst of the worst. I've gotten

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Speaker 1: life sentences. Um, when you're you're talking, you talked about

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Speaker 1: a bunch of things here, the uranium uranium one issue.

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Speaker 1: I do think that there will be some of hearings

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Speaker 1: and and investigation into that going on going on with

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration. I do believe they'll be looking into

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Speaker 1: it more. I think the DJ has already mentioned something

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Speaker 1: about that, but on those issues, for example, the Hillary

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Speaker 1: paid a play scheme with the Clinton Foundation, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of gray area. Look, the Clintons are shady, and

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Speaker 1: the Clintons both have backgrounds in the law, so they

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Speaker 1: now that doesn't mean that Bill didn't break all kinds

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Speaker 1: of laws, because he clearly did, and doesn't mean it

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Speaker 1: Hillary didn't break all kinds of laws. She clearly did.

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Speaker 1: But they generally tried to use the Clinton Foundation as

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Speaker 1: a slush fund, but to do it in such a

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Speaker 1: way they would always at least have a defense whereby

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Speaker 1: they're not selling influence, they're selling charity, They're they're helping

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Speaker 1: the world. So it becomes difficult to get to a

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Speaker 1: place where you could bring a specific prosecution against the

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Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation unless you're going to try unless you can

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Speaker 1: prove quid pro quo corruption, which is a very important

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Speaker 1: term in this because that's the standard, right meaning what

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Speaker 1: for what. So, for example, if I gave the Clintons

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Speaker 1: a check for the Clinton Foundation for a million dollars,

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Speaker 1: and then six months later, my secretary, which I don't have,

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Speaker 1: nor do I have the kind of money to give

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Speaker 1: them a check, I'm just saying theoretically, six months later,

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Speaker 1: my assistant, my secretary, calls them and say says, so

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Speaker 1: Buck wants a meeting because he represents a conglomerate that

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Speaker 1: needs a state department license to do business in Kazakhstan

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Speaker 1: or something that maybe you can get me on a

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Speaker 1: quid pro quo. But because it goes into a a

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Speaker 1: charity instead of directly into my pockets, there's an additional layer.

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Speaker 1: And that's the kind of evil genius of what the

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Speaker 1: Clintons did. They polluted charity, but they created a slush

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Speaker 1: fund that that was a branding mechanism for them that

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Speaker 1: supported their lifestyle that flew them all over the world.

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Speaker 1: But they can always use a veil of protection of

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Speaker 1: the charity to keep them out of legal jeopardy. And

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Speaker 1: I know that's a lot of I'm throwing a lot

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Speaker 1: at you, Patrick, but I'm trying to just take your

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Speaker 1: your whole thought processes here and then on the on

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Speaker 1: the issue of treason, and UH treason is a very

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Speaker 1: specific charge. People use it as a thing to say

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Speaker 1: about people they don't like, and government treason is giving

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Speaker 1: aid and comfort to the enemy. So if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about illegal uh an actual prosecution of someone for treason.

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Speaker 1: You'd have to show them giving aid and comfort to

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Speaker 1: the enemy on the uranium. On the uranium issue, they're

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Speaker 1: not exporting the uranium, which is true. So that's something

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Speaker 1: else that I think you have to keep in mind here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm as appalled by the Clinton Foundation as

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Speaker 1: anybody out there, but I also want to keep keep

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Speaker 1: it into in the realm of what is provable and

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Speaker 1: what is realistic. I think corruption is provable. I think

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Speaker 1: treason is going way too far. Um. We got to

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Speaker 1: talk about the State Department though, was this a whole

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Speaker 1: other area of propaganda against Trump? Will get there. He's

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Speaker 1: back with you now, because when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: fight for truth, the buck never stops. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show. Everybody, our two is upon us.

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Speaker 1: And I got some breaking news for you, which I

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Speaker 1: think I was going to break for you before, but

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Speaker 1: I held it a little longer because I got distracted.

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Speaker 1: But here's what we got. The House Committee, the U. S.

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Speaker 1: House of Representatives committ has voted to approve the release

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Speaker 1: of the Democrat response to a contentious Republican memo alleging

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Speaker 1: FBI bias. That's the headline on Reuter's here, So a

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Speaker 1: memo to respond to the memo. That's what we've got here.

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Speaker 1: You'll notice that this brings up a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: interesting little side plots, doesn't it. First of all, if

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Speaker 1: the memo was a dud, as we discussed in the

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Speaker 1: last hour, which is not true, but which a lot

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Speaker 1: of Democrats in their media allies are saying, what's the

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Speaker 1: need for a response memo if it's a dud. Remember

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Speaker 1: they didn't say it's just not true, although they said

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Speaker 1: that too. They're saying it's a dud. Why I respond

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Speaker 1: to a dug? Oh? Maybe it actually was important and

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Speaker 1: they're just lying to their base and trying to downplay this.

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Speaker 1: If it's a dud, there's no need for you to

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Speaker 1: release your own. I would also note that their memo

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Speaker 1: is I believe, ten pages. Okay, what are they going

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Speaker 1: to write for ten pages? Here is my guests, and

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Speaker 1: my prediction of the Democrat memo is that it will

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Speaker 1: have no additional information, nothing that comes from the realm

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Speaker 1: of declassified or anything like that. It will just be

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Speaker 1: ten pages of Democrat misdirection and talking points to downplay, undermine,

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Speaker 1: and try to quickly move past the Republican memo. So

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Speaker 1: that's what I think we're gonna have there. That is

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Speaker 1: my expectation for that said, yeah, let's release it. Release

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Speaker 1: the memo, right, release the memo, Go for it. I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't much see any reason not to have

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Speaker 1: a release. We'll be joined by Sarah Carter by the way,

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Speaker 1: later in the hour to talk about all this stuff,

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Speaker 1: the Fies, the fis a memo, Fies abuse memo, everything

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Speaker 1: that's going on in this world. Because Sarah's on the

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Speaker 1: front lines breaking stories on this and dealing with it

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Speaker 1: all the time. So yeah, yeah, the memo will be released.

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Speaker 1: The memo is going to be released. I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to the White House now. Some are saying that

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Speaker 1: Trump might block it. I no reason for Trump to

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Speaker 1: block it. I can't imagine. Now if the Democrats get

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Speaker 1: this memo through, if they are in fact able to

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Speaker 1: get this thing released, then we can expect that if

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Speaker 1: my prediction about it is true that it has no

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Speaker 1: new information, that it is just a screed, it is

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Speaker 1: an editorial posing as national security information to set straight

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Speaker 1: some aspect of this debate, then that will show us

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Speaker 1: that once again Democrats were either exaggerating, were lying. When

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Speaker 1: it came to national security information, they were lying. There

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Speaker 1: was no national security information that was sensitive, that was

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Speaker 1: problematic in its release in the Republican memo. That was

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Speaker 1: a lie. Now they're saying that it was a or

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Speaker 1: they were saying immediately that the Republican Memo was a dud.

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Speaker 1: I guess we can call it the Shift memo. You know,

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Speaker 1: America is about to get shift. Um that is likely

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Speaker 1: to have nothing of substance, and that they can't come

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Speaker 1: up with any substance. I'm predicting here, but I I

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Speaker 1: have very high confidence in this one. I wish there

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Speaker 1: was a way I could legally place a bet in

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Speaker 1: Vegas on this one. Um. That will just go to

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Speaker 1: show you that all of their oh there's a lack

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Speaker 1: of context, is a lack of context. This is their

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Speaker 1: opportunity to show us the context. This is the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to show us what the context is for, or that

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Speaker 1: what the lack of context is for the Republican memo,

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Speaker 1: because that's what they were always saying, right, And that's

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Speaker 1: what something the FBI said to it'll omit it omitted information. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Well, we'll see we'll see if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I'm willing to bet. I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of you would be with me here, and I bet

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Speaker 1: that I'm right on this one. So that's one part

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Speaker 1: of a Democrat memo now is going through the same process.

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Speaker 1: You know, what is it? What's the deal for? What's

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Speaker 1: good for the goose is good for the gander? Right,

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Speaker 1: isn't that? But is that like old old nursery wrong stuff? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. That's an old phrase,

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Speaker 1: old old time phrase there from Buck And that's true.

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Speaker 1: If you're for transparency, then you're for transparency. That's This

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Speaker 1: is pretty straightforward. This is not overly complicated. Democrats want

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Speaker 1: to release their own memo, fine, go forth, it's not

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Speaker 1: going to change anything. In fact, I think you'll just

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Speaker 1: see that they're repeating what they already have on this.

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Speaker 1: They're repeating what they've already been saying. Let's get onto

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Speaker 1: some new information. Though. There's another interesting part of this

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Speaker 1: whole fis abuse scandal, surveillance of card he Page and

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Speaker 1: Papadopolis and how this ties into Trump and how the

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Speaker 1: media is trying to use this two under mind and

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Speaker 1: in fact end this administration. What is the new information

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Speaker 1: that we have on this. Well, here's Katherine Herrick from

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Speaker 1: Fox News. Last month, the Republican chairman of the Senate

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Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee, Chuck Grassley, along with another senior Senate Republican,

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Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham, sent a criminal referral to the Justice Department

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Speaker 1: asking for an investigation of the former British by Christopher Steele,

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Speaker 1: who compiled the dossier, on the basis that they said

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Speaker 1: there was evidence that he had lined to the FBI

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Speaker 1: about his contact with the media and the distribution of

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Speaker 1: the dossier. And the document is a new allegation by

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Speaker 1: the senators that Clinton associates also fed information to steal

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Speaker 1: and it reads, in part, it is troubling enough that

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Speaker 1: the Clinton campaign funded Mr Steele's work, but that these

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Speaker 1: Clinton associates were contemporary contemporaneously feeding Mr steele allegations raises

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Speaker 1: additional concerns about his credibility. Oh wait a second, So,

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Speaker 1: considering Clinton was a Secretary of State, which means that

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Speaker 1: she was the boss of the State Department for a while,

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Speaker 1: boss lady of the State Department, and she would have

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Speaker 1: had ties to very senior people in the State Department.

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Speaker 1: As a result of that, the State Department leans left.

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Speaker 1: To begin with, I've told you that in the past,

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Speaker 1: and I'm reiterating it here today. What the heck is

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Speaker 1: this all about? Now we're being told that there were

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Speaker 1: folks who were Clinton acolytes disciples, I mean, Clinton cronies

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Speaker 1: in State. Because remember, if you're the assistant deputy assistant

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Speaker 1: secretary of whatever at the State Department, you know, deputy

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Speaker 1: under assistant under assistant secretary, you stay around after Hillary

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Speaker 1: moves on to whatever. I mean, you stay around in

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Speaker 1: your State Department job most likely. Oh and by the way,

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Speaker 1: how would you leave or how would you get elevated

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Speaker 1: from your deputy under assistant assistant secretary job at State

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Speaker 1: if Hillary becomes president. So you have quite a vested

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Speaker 1: interest in a Hillary presidency because she would be immensely powerful.

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Speaker 1: She'd be in a position to either elevate you within

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Speaker 1: the State Department bureaucracy or get you one of those

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Speaker 1: really lucrative consulting gigs for former government employees that tend

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Speaker 1: to go the way of the swamp dwellers, if you will,

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Speaker 1: the d C insiders, right, get some fat contract to

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Speaker 1: advise people and basically just have lunch and do Google searches.

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Speaker 1: I would know what. I have friends who have worked

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Speaker 1: for these places on K Street. You know that's what happens.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to get one of those gigs

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden triple or quadruple your government salary,

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Speaker 1: you know you want Hillary to win. And so what

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Speaker 1: we're being told here is that Christopher Steele was also

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Speaker 1: giving information. I'm sorry that Clinton associates were also giving

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Speaker 1: information to the Christopher Steel at the time. So people

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Speaker 1: within the State Department, if you're acocracy, we're in fact,

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Speaker 1: uh telling Christopher Steel stuff. Oh and by the way,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like my information might have gone the other

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Speaker 1: way too. Here's former Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Newland.

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Speaker 1: When he was doing this other work and became concerned

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Speaker 1: the dossier. The dossier he passed two to four pages

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Speaker 1: of short points of what he was finding, and our

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Speaker 1: immediate reaction to that was this is not in our purview.

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Speaker 1: This needs to go to the FBI. If there is

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Speaker 1: any concern here that one candidate or the election as

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Speaker 1: a whole might be influenced by the Russian Federation, that's

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Speaker 1: for something for the FBI to investigate. So hold on

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Speaker 1: a second, which is it here? Because if you have

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Speaker 1: Clinton cronies at the State Department giving Steel information and

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Speaker 1: then Steele running that to the FBI, do you also

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Speaker 1: have Steel getting his information however he gets it, and

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Speaker 1: then going back to the State Department to meet with

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Speaker 1: member state departments, a huge organization, meet with other people,

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Speaker 1: and say, oh, this is the information I've got. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is circle circular reporting in the worst possible way,

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Speaker 1: which is a cardinal sin in intelligence and analysis work.

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Speaker 1: You don't take one source and then pretend it's three sources.

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Speaker 1: In fact, if you were writing a high school report

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Speaker 1: on yeah, you know Liechtenstein and or is it Stein

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Speaker 1: and you really just use the encyclopedia, but you wrote

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Speaker 1: like five books about, you know, my glorious travel in Liechtenstein,

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Speaker 1: You've made up sources. That's bad, right, that's actually some

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Speaker 1: people would fail you for that. Others would just take

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Speaker 1: points off. But you're not supposed to do that. You're

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Speaker 1: not supposed to fake the sources that you have or

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Speaker 1: pretend that one source is really several sources. In intelligence work,

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Speaker 1: you can imagine quite the same quite the same issue.

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Speaker 1: Right If if I come up to you and I

851
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Speaker 1: tell you that it was m lawns under my bed,

852
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: you may say, well, you know, Buck's had a long day,

853
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 1: maybe he's at out of it. If I say I've

854
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: got five different people, all of whom can confirm that

855
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 1: Osaman Lawdon's hiding under my bed, you might say to me, ohoa,

856
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: that seems I mean, who are the who are these people?

857
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: When in reality they're just four people that I told that,

858
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, I guess Buck's telling the truth.

859
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: Now it's five people, all independently corroborating that. You know,

860
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: that's where Osama's hiding. Yeah, that's right. You know he's

861
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: still running around somewhere. Um, that's that's one way of

862
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: looking at this problem. Meaning that's what I think happened. Here.

863
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: You have Steel running around trying to wage a one

864
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 1: man campaign to stop Trump from becoming president. And mind

865
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: he's also a foreigner. I know that we think of

866
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 1: you know, the Brits are like our cousins across the ocean.

867
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: But he's not an American, not a lot of vote,

868
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: not not really a part of our political process. And

869
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: given the fury and fervor over all the Russian machinations

870
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: of all kinds about our election, and it's all foreign

871
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: influence in election. Christopher Steel is for an influence in

872
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: the election, folks. I don't want the Brits or the

873
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: British government or any other government trying to determine what

874
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: goes on here anymore than I want the Russian government

875
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: trying to determine what goes on over here. You know,

876
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: the Swedes are great, I don't want them picking our

877
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Speaker 1: next president. In fact, I think that the Swedes would

878
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: be just as bad at picking our next president as

879
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other countries that are way less

880
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: economically well off in Sweden. So that's just something else

881
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: to keep in mind. I find this, this whole notion

882
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: of the State Department now being an additional avenue for

883
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: information that is anti Trump, very troubling and completely believable.

884
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: By the way I I've had, I've had many many

885
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: friends at State from over the years when I lived

886
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: in d C. I had a lot of State Department

887
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: friends and spent a lot of time around people the

888
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: State Department. And it's a the best way to think

889
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: about the State Department and people I know I'm gonna get,

890
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: you know, an angry email or two. Here, someone like Buck,

891
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: I work for State and like, I'm awesome. I'm like,

892
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: I love America. What are you doing? I know you're out,

893
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: I get it, But I'm talking about in the aggregate

894
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: right in general, and the prototypical State Department guy or

895
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: gal is an urban dwelling Democrat who thinks that Bernie

896
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: Sanders would have been a great option. Okay, that's you

897
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: get a lot of that at the State Department. Uh.

898
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: You know, they speak foreign languages from their study abroad

899
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: programs from predominantly like second tier private colleges, and they

900
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: think that, you know, people should listen to them more

901
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: because of that. So you get a lot of that

902
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: at State. And that means you're gonna have a whole

903
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: bunch of folks that are, let's just say, not part

904
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: of the MAGA movement. So if they were in some

905
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: way involved here in the Steel dossier, I would it

906
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: would not surprise me in the least. And no matter what,

907
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: And now, I just I just want to know was

908
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: it a one way information flow or two way? Was

909
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: Steel briefing State with anti Trump stuff? Was State briefing

910
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: Steel with anti Trump stuff? Or was it both ways? Right?

911
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: That's what we need to figure out now, but it

912
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: seems quite clear that we have, um we have some

913
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: some additional digging to do. To that point about digging,

914
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: we have investigative journalist Sarah Carter joining us here in

915
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: just a few minutes, so we will get into quite

916
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: a bit of that. I would note that there are

917
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: some reports today about what's going on with Syria and Rock,

918
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: including US troops pulling out of a rock. Someone remind

919
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: me tomorrow. I'll get it. We'll do a buck brief

920
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,959
Speaker 1: some national security work on what's going on over there

921
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: and what we're gonna do. And it looks like we

922
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: might be withdrawing from Syria and large numbers or not

923
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: large numbers, but a large percentage might be withdrawing from Iraq.

924
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: What that all means, and what's going on with the

925
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: Assad regime, what we can expect there. That's not something

926
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna hit today, but I just want to keep

927
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: that in the background of what we're talking about on

928
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: the show. And also I'm hoping to do a little

929
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: bit of a deep dive and a history three of

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00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: MS thirteen, specifically as we get going here on the

931
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: immigration debate, and we talked about enforcement priorities and sanctuary cities.

932
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: I think we should all have a baseline understanding and

933
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: background history on ms there Tomorrow, Salvat Trout show m

934
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: S their teen and what the gang has, what it's

935
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: been all about, what it does and how big it

936
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: is and everything else. So I think that's despite what

937
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: MSNBC said last week about how no one knows I

938
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: m S thirteen except for Fox News viewers or whatever.

939
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: You know. I guess over at MSNBC, knowledge is not power.

940
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: You see much better. You know you want? You want

941
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: a lot of ignorance. All right, we're gonna roll into

942
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: a quick break. We'll be right back. Yea. The actual

943
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: political motivation and beginning of this was on the Republican side.

944
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: It was then switched over where there was democratic funding.

945
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: It really goes to the credit ability, but that is

946
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: an issue that the judge and issuing the fires of

947
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: warrant takes into consideration. So Dick Durbin is still run

948
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,959
Speaker 1: around with that. You know, all the dossier stuff started

949
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: with the Republicans. Like, no, come on, Dick Durbin. I'm

950
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 1: gonna say you're better than that, but that's not true either,

951
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: But come on, man, come on, you know, tell tell

952
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: the truth at least? Why not? Yeah, we only go

953
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: around once in this world. Why not tell the truth

954
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: for a change. Another thing I meant to get to

955
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: you before, and we're gonna have Sarah Carter joining us

956
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: here shortly, and then we'll also get into in the

957
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: next hour a little bit of Super Bowl reaction, Hillary

958
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: Clinton blaming misogyny and saying and saying that climate change

959
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 1: is misogynistic. Get ready for that. It's a real thing, everybody,

960
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: next hour. And at the end of the hour, I

961
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: have some some thoughts, some some wisdom from well of

962
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: particularly important and heartfelt place for all of you. That's

963
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm just sharing with you. It's not from me, but

964
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: it's something that I saw. I think you'll all appreciate.

965
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: And that's at the end of the next year. I

966
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: hope you can stay through for that. I saw this

967
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: guy or I saw this editorial why I Am leaving

968
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: the FBI, And I've noticed a trend here former And look,

969
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: I was early on this one, right. It used to

970
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: be what do you mean you're you're leaving You're leaving

971
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: the intelligence community and you're going to be in media.

972
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: And like, now all these guys want to be in media,

973
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: right I was. Let's be honest, you know, Clapper and

974
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: Brandon and Prete Burrah on all these guys. You're welcome,

975
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: You're welcome. I was a trend setter here. I was

976
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: early on. I've I've been doing this for seven years.

977
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: I was early. Now everyone wants to get in on

978
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: this game. Right. All these guys are working government. They're like, oh,

979
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: I was in all that, being under Assistant Secretary for

980
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: for logistics of making sure potato chips were adequately stocked

981
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: in the in the break room, you know. And they're

982
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: all now on run around over at MSNBC and whatnot.

983
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: But this guy writes this piece of the for the

984
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: New York Times, why I Am leaving the FBI, and

985
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: it has a lot of like self congratulatory stuff. You know.

986
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: One of the greatest honors of my life was walking

987
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: across the stage at FBI Academy and receiving my special

988
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: Agent path from the director Robert Mueller. Oh, big surprise, Mueller,

989
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: you know. And then he goes on and on and

990
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: he starts to say, you know that this is all

991
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: it's also partisan. What are we to make that of

992
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: the recent allegations of political bias at the FBI, particularly

993
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: those involving two employees who is cringeworthy texts continue to

994
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: threaten the agency's reputation. Uh, these political attacks on the

995
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: bureau must stop. If those critics of the agency blah

996
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: blahla and he goes on right, so that this is

997
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: why he's he's leaving the FBI because the political criticism

998
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: is saying, right, who wants to guess what we find

999
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: out next about this guy who left the FBI? Who

1000
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: wants to who wants they can guess did he go?

1001
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: You know? Is he gonna go lead a quiet life

1002
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: somewhere just you know, volunteering in his off time and

1003
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: trying to build a small business. Oh he's a CNN analyst. Now,

1004
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: Oh what a shock, what a So he's leaving the

1005
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: FBI because of political pressure and he's running right over

1006
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: to CNN right away. M hmm. Is it really the

1007
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: political pressure at the FBI that's bothering him or is

1008
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: it the capitalizing here? Is is it the best option

1009
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: for him to try and ride this wave into a

1010
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: contributorship gig somewhere. I want to let the guy know, look,

1011
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: go to see it. You know, you'll be there for

1012
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: a year. You'll be on TV sometimes, but you know,

1013
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: they're still not going to give you a show, buddy.

1014
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: They only give shows to people that are really inside

1015
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: the inside the cool kids table, you know. So go

1016
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: have fun over there for a little bit. But at

1017
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: the end of the day, yet another voice saying that

1018
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: Trump is basically Hitler, not adding the conversation. It's not

1019
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: helpful and pretending that you're above politics and that's why

1020
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: you left the FBI so you can go be an

1021
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: a list at CNN. Is comical. It is comical. We

1022
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: got Sarah Carter joinings here in a few minutes. She's,

1023
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: like I said, front lines of this issue with the

1024
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: memo and everything else. So she's also good friend of mine.

1025
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: Stay with it. Other shows just talk at you in

1026
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: the Freedom Mud. We have a mission. We fight for

1027
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: the truth in a team effort, and Buck is back

1028
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: with our next play. Alright, alright, So the memo continues

1029
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: to be top of the news cycle, a lot of

1030
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: back and forth over the weekend after the meto dropped

1031
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: on Friday. We have a lady with us right now

1032
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: who has been at the center of the storm on

1033
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: this for quite some time because she's actually chasing down

1034
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: the truth and getting facts out there so that we

1035
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: know what's real and what's not. With all this, we

1036
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: have Sarah Carter on the line. She's an investigative journalist

1037
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: and also a Fox News contributor and an old pal

1038
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: of mind. Sarah, thank you for making the time. Oh

1039
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: it's great, but it's great to be with you. All right.

1040
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: So first in the memo aftermath, a lot of things

1041
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: coming up now and as I suspected, that was just

1042
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: an important day, kind of a major data point in

1043
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: the story. But by no means the end of any

1044
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: of these stories. Tell me a bit about this criminal

1045
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: referral with Christopher Steele and UH and Grasslely in Congress,

1046
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: what's going on with that? I think this is probably

1047
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: the biggest development in the case of the fight subbut

1048
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: case as well as the dotier on January for its basically,

1049
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: Senator Grassley and Senator Linda Graham referred to the Justice

1050
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: Department Christopher Steele for a criminal investigation, and basically that

1051
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: was based on information that they had obtained from the

1052
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: FBI when they looked at Christopher Steele's own testimony in

1053
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: the London courts and others and compared that to FBI

1054
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: information that they had received. And today they actually released

1055
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: a heavily redacted criminal referral that if you pick through

1056
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: the criminal referral, you see that they accused him of

1057
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: blatantly lying to the FBI. Further, you see that there

1058
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: were other people involved in what appears to be a

1059
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Speaker 1: second dossier. Now I've spoken to my sources, and those

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Speaker 1: those sources have said that the second dossier was information

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Speaker 1: said by Chris By actually by Hillary Clinton's allies, her friends,

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Speaker 1: to Christopher Stile. And there was someone in particular at

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Speaker 1: the State Department that was also feeding information to Christopher

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Speaker 1: Steele that he then used in his dossier, which was

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Speaker 1: used to obtain the Pytho warrant. So this is a

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Speaker 1: very circular, very in and I'm sorry for the noise

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Speaker 1: of the background and outdoors, but this is a This

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Speaker 1: this shows how very incestuous they say it was between

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Speaker 1: Chris Christopher Stile, Hillary Clinton, and others involved in putting

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Speaker 1: together this DOFFI don't worry, Sarah. We assume that if

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Speaker 1: you're outside, it's because you've got a dead drop going

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Speaker 1: with one of your sources and you're about to get

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Speaker 1: another another bombshell out there, so we excuse any any

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Speaker 1: at all. Envia noise is fun. But tell me a

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Speaker 1: bit about where where the Democrat memo stands in all this.

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing that the the House may vote on it.

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Speaker 1: I'm well, I mean, tell me what you're hearing from

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Speaker 1: your sources about why should or should this not come out. Look,

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Speaker 1: every source I've spoken to says, let the Democrat memo

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Speaker 1: come out. Let them come out with their ten page

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Speaker 1: rebuttal I spoke to others who said that it's lappable

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Speaker 1: on its face. I don't know if that's true. I

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Speaker 1: have not had a chance to look at that. The

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Speaker 1: Democrats want to put their point of view out there.

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Speaker 1: They you know, they have stated over and over again

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Speaker 1: over the last few days that the new nest memo

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Speaker 1: is not accurate, is that it doesn't tell the whole story,

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Speaker 1: and they want to release their own. But remember they

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Speaker 1: have to go through the same process, but the exact

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Speaker 1: same process that the Republicans went through, and that means

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Speaker 1: that their NEMO, their memo, needs to be thoroughly vetted,

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Speaker 1: and it has not been vetted yet. It is in

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Speaker 1: the process of being vetted and apparently as soon as

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Speaker 1: that is done, they will vote to pass so that

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Memo can go forward and become public as well.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's important. I think it's important that

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Speaker 1: we see both sides of this and understand where a

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Speaker 1: representative shift is coming from and what he is going

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Speaker 1: to do to can be to contend with the new NIMMO.

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Speaker 1: But I tell you this, I've spoken to a number

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Speaker 1: of sources who had direct access to the McCabe testimony,

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Speaker 1: and they said he would specifically asked about the Steel

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Speaker 1: dossier and whether or not the fight the application could

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Speaker 1: have been obtained without it. And according to the sources

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Speaker 1: that I've spoken with, McCabe was very explicit that he

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Speaker 1: would not have been able to obtain the fight to warrant.

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Speaker 1: The FBI would not have been able to obtain it

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Speaker 1: without the dossier. What can you tell us, Sarah and

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Speaker 1: everyone we're speaking to Sarah Carter check out her latest

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Speaker 1: because she's the one who's been dropping bombshells on this

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Speaker 1: story now for over a year. Sarah a no h

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Speaker 1: Sarah and then a Carter dot Com is where she

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Speaker 1: posts her pieces, as well as in various outlets across

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Speaker 1: the country, Sarah, there's this talking point we heard a

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Speaker 1: lot of in the twenty four or forty eight hours

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Speaker 1: after the memo drop that well, they already were doing

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Speaker 1: surveillance on Page before the the dossier came into effect,

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Speaker 1: and or they were doing surveillance on Papadopoulos before the

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Speaker 1: dossier came into effect. Do we have any are people

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Speaker 1: just saying that without being able to prove it? Do

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Speaker 1: we have any information on that? What? What can you

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Speaker 1: tell us about that? That the notion that pre dossier

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Speaker 1: there was already FBI surveillance of people tied to Trump.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't think everybody has all the facts

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Speaker 1: in place. I did speak to Carter Page myself. I

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Speaker 1: did ask him direct questions, particularly about information that came

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Speaker 1: out with his meeting with the Russians, um very brief

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Speaker 1: meeting that he said he had he uh adamantly denies.

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Speaker 1: He said he was never paid by the Russians to

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Speaker 1: give any advice, that when he did offer his advice,

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Speaker 1: it was based mostly on his own fability as a

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Speaker 1: professor to to to to try to teach them, uh

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Speaker 1: and and kind of direct economic policies and things of

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Speaker 1: that nature. As far as what he was teaching at

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Speaker 1: n y U at the time. I think was really

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Speaker 1: fascinating here is that Paige and Papadopulis. Remember the story

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Speaker 1: on George Papadospelis didn't even come out until much later, actually,

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Speaker 1: the last this past December, when that story and that

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Speaker 1: revelation came about, And that never had been a point

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Speaker 1: of contention and never had been brought out in any

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Speaker 1: news stories prior to the dossier. The dossier, in fact,

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Speaker 1: was the main reason that the FBI, according to all

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Speaker 1: the sources I've spoken with, got the fight a warrant

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Speaker 1: to continue surveilling carter Page before that, according to carter

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Speaker 1: Page and according to others, he was more of a

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Speaker 1: witness for the FBI. And I have talked to FBI

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Speaker 1: sources who said that they had approached carter Page after

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Speaker 1: the meeting and really just wanted to utilize carter Page

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Speaker 1: in their investigation of the Russians. Well, that's a critical Sarah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a critical point because if he

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Speaker 1: was working and I've seen this too from some people

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Speaker 1: tied into all this and the investigation, if carter Page

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Speaker 1: was assisting the FBI in any way in advance of

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Speaker 1: the Fiser warrant. Then they can't turn around. They being

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Speaker 1: people that are running with this story as a means

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Speaker 1: of getting at the Trump administration, they can't run around

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Speaker 1: and say, oh, but he was already the he was

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Speaker 1: already on the FBI's radar before the Fiser warrant. Because

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Speaker 1: if he's on the radar because he's helping them, that

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Speaker 1: does not count. And that's exactly it. That's exactly the point,

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Speaker 1: and that's the point that I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people have been trying to make her. What was the

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Speaker 1: rule Carter Page played in the FBI's investigation, And if

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Speaker 1: he was a witness as that is, as it has

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Speaker 1: been told by sources that I've spoken with, then it

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Speaker 1: makes him very different than being the target which he

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Speaker 1: later became when the Dartier came about. And remember the

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Speaker 1: Darcier's Christopher Steel put together was said in bits and

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Speaker 1: pieces to the FBI. So we know and we have

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Speaker 1: heard that the first time they went in for the

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Speaker 1: five to application they were denied, and it was the

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Speaker 1: second time when they had more information. Apparently the dossier,

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Speaker 1: along with Michael Isakof's story in Yahoo Knews that the

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Speaker 1: FISA was actually accepted, and they went through with their

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Speaker 1: surveillance of carter page. Sarah, can we keep you, can

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Speaker 1: we keep you through the break for one second, just

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Speaker 1: to to ask you about the State Department angle on

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Speaker 1: this in a second. Absolutely, guys, we're talking to Sarah Carter.

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Speaker 1: You should be following her on social media for not already,

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Speaker 1: follow her on Twitter and Facebook. Her website is s

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Speaker 1: A R A A A Carter dot com Sarah A.

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Speaker 1: Carter dot com and you see her on Fox News

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Speaker 1: all the time. We're gonna be back in just a

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Speaker 1: moment with more from Sarah. Stay with me, all right,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone. We've got Sarah Carter on the line

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Speaker 1: talking to her about the latest in Memo gate. I

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Speaker 1: guess we don't really have a better term for yet,

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Speaker 1: Russia Gate. We just add gate onto anything of news

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Speaker 1: interest these days, it seems. But Sarah, thanks for staying

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Speaker 1: through the break with us. This is a this is

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Speaker 1: a big addition to this story. We don't often hear

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Speaker 1: a lot of new and recently with the memo and

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Speaker 1: now this, there's some there's some pieces that are getting

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Speaker 1: added into the puzzle here that are are meaningful and

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Speaker 1: that advanced our understanding of what really happened when it

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Speaker 1: comes to Russia Trump collusion. Tell me about how the

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Speaker 1: State Department all of a sudden plays in this well,

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Speaker 1: I think this is the most fascinating heart book of

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Speaker 1: the entire saga here that all of a sudden, now

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Speaker 1: the State Department is involved in this memo and in

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Speaker 1: and actually in the dossier itself that Christopher Steele was

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Speaker 1: putting together. In the referral, the criminal referral that Chuck

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Speaker 1: Grassley along with Lindsay Graham gave to the d o J,

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Speaker 1: they specifically state, specifically state that sources within the State

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Speaker 1: Department were feeding information to Christopher Steele, who then used

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Speaker 1: that information in his dossier, which he fed to the FBI.

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Speaker 1: Those sources were friends of the Clintons. That's very important

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Speaker 1: because that changes pretty much everything. Although they said that

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Speaker 1: Christopher Steele got information from the Russians, this was an

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Speaker 1: added piece of information that Christopher Steele was held from

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Speaker 1: the FBI, and that's why the referral was made. He

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Speaker 1: did not inform the FBI that he was being fed

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Speaker 1: information from people that were closely aligned with the Hillary

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Speaker 1: Clinton campaign. Now you go to the memo and you

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Speaker 1: say to yourself. Union specifically pointed out that Bruce Or

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Speaker 1: in his four page memo that Bruce Or had told

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Speaker 1: the FBI that Christopher Steele was intent on not seeing

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Speaker 1: President Trump elected. So now take a step back. He

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Speaker 1: is not just a former intelligence analyst collecting information that

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Speaker 1: he found surprising and stunning. He had a former intelligence

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Speaker 1: officer from the from Britain who was collecting information to

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Speaker 1: harm President Trump. And this is why people are saying,

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Speaker 1: we need to look into this. We need to see

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Speaker 1: if our bife of courts and if our intelligence tools

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Speaker 1: were weaponized to go after a candidate. Was this being

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Speaker 1: used by the political opponent, by Hillary Clinton's campaign, members

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Speaker 1: of her camp, friends of hers to basically spread disinformation

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Speaker 1: about President Trump in his campaign? I mean, this is incredible, Sarah.

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Speaker 1: If if what you're telling me, if what you're telling

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Speaker 1: me is is born out with sourcing and reporting, now,

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Speaker 1: it would mean that there could have been When you

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Speaker 1: say State Department, I think this is an important You know,

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Speaker 1: first of all, the State Department is a very I know,

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Speaker 1: I knew a lot of people at State. State is

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Speaker 1: a left of center at a minimum organization. Overall, Yes,

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Speaker 1: there are former ground pounding, awesome patriotic Marines that also

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Speaker 1: go and work at the State Department. But it's mostly

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Speaker 1: people that got master's degrees from Johns. Hopkins and Columbia's

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Speaker 1: CPUs school, and and they are very left of center.

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Speaker 1: So that's the overall ethos. But even putting aside whether

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Speaker 1: it was just some bureaucrats Sarah who wanted to get

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Speaker 1: even with Trump or just didn't like Trump. And we

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Speaker 1: know there's been a lot oh the anti Trump sentiment

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Speaker 1: coming out of Foggy Bottom for a while. It could

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Speaker 1: be senior appointees, or it could have been senior appointees

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Speaker 1: of the Obama administration at State, people that had worked

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Speaker 1: very closely with Hillary Clinton, which you Secretary of State.

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Speaker 1: It could be those people passing information to Christopher Steele,

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Speaker 1: Christopher Steele presenting that to the FBI, And this would

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Speaker 1: be a whole another channel for OPO research in essence

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Speaker 1: getting handed to the FBI as though it was actual intelligence.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's stunning. It is stunning, And I mean

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Speaker 1: I'm reading directly right now from the Criminal Referral where

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Speaker 1: they state explicitly it is troubly enough that the Clinton

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Speaker 1: campaign funded Mr Steel's work, but that these Clinton associates

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Speaker 1: were contemporaneously feeding Mr steele allegations raises additional concerns about

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Speaker 1: his credibility. There is substantial evidence suggesting that Mr Steele

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Speaker 1: materially misled the FBI about a key aspect of his

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Speaker 1: dostier efforts, which on which bears on his credibility. This

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Speaker 1: is so important because this opens up a whole new chapter.

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Speaker 1: As you said, but in this dossier, and in Christopher

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Speaker 1: Steel's involvement with the dossier, and without this dossier, it

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Speaker 1: appears they would have never been able to gain a

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Speaker 1: fight the warrant to conduct this investigation of Carter Page. Sarah,

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Speaker 1: We've been told now for a few days because as

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Speaker 1: a main part of the Democrat rebuttal, that there's other

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Speaker 1: information than the dossier. I just want to know, are

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Speaker 1: you hearing from from your sources, from people in the

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Speaker 1: boat way who could affect change on this, that they're

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Speaker 1: going to try and get that information out there too,

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Speaker 1: Because I think that the one of the biggest hits

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Speaker 1: the d o J took here was the pretense that

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Speaker 1: this was national security sensitive information that we couldn't know about.

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Speaker 1: I mean that four page memo was important, but there

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Speaker 1: was nothing that was endangering any sources, any methods, and

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Speaker 1: that they pretended that was the case is really harmful

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Speaker 1: to their credibility. Are we gonna be able to get

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Speaker 1: more information you think out of them? I mean, if

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Speaker 1: there's other stuff, can we find out what that other

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Speaker 1: stuff is for the Fies Award or no? Well you

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Speaker 1: would think so. I mean, there's been so many leaks,

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Speaker 1: and the one leak that we haven't seen, the major

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Speaker 1: League that is supposed to prove some type of Russia

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Speaker 1: collusion with Trump, is that particular leak we still haven't

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Speaker 1: seen that. There has been no evidence to prove that

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Speaker 1: as of yet. Now, if there is other evidence that

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Speaker 1: they used for the fight of warrant, I would like

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Speaker 1: to know what that was too, because I think that's

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Speaker 1: essentially important. And maybe the ten page memo by the

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Speaker 1: Democrats we'll explain that. But so far we haven't heard

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Speaker 1: anything in that realm. There's been no leaks which we

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Speaker 1: were expecting to contradict the new Nest memo on that part.

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Speaker 1: So either they're holding it close hold or they just

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Speaker 1: don't have it. Sarah, when can we expect your next piece?

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Speaker 1: And I know it'll be up on Sarah E. Carter

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Speaker 1: dot com. But two, can you tell us when to

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Speaker 1: expect it and maybe a little bit of what to

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Speaker 1: expect or are we still working on that? Well, we

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Speaker 1: have a piece coming out today which is a story

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Speaker 1: I've been working on which deals with the referral and

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Speaker 1: the possible people involved in the Clinton campaign who were

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Speaker 1: feeding the British spy his information. Alright, everybody Sarah Carter

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Speaker 1: look for on Fox News, follower on social media and

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01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 1: check out her latest piece out today. Sarah, great work

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01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: is always. Thank you so much for joining us. Hey,

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Speaker 1: thank you, bet you too. Um, alright, seems so yeah,

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Speaker 1: there you have it. You know it looks Sarah has

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01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: been such a warrior for the truth on this whole issue.

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01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, I've known Sarah for years.

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01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: I go back with Sarah at Lee six or seven

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Speaker 1: years working with her back in the old real News

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01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 1: days and the Blaze, and she was a colleague of

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Speaker 1: mine at the Blaze for a while. And you know,

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01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot harder to do the job when

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01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: the deep state and the establishment are against you and

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01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: not feeding you information. And you know, it's it's a

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01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: very different thing, right For a lot of these so

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Speaker 1: called national secure eddie analysts and reporters, particularly reporters at

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01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: the major papers, they're literally just they're they're spoon fed information,

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Speaker 1: sometimes classified information that the Democrat establishment wants out there,

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01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 1: and then they get to act like, oh, we're in

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Speaker 1: trepid reporters. Sarah's finding stuff that people don't want her

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01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 1: to find out. So she's doing really, really great work

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01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: and I just wouldn't know that. I'm still stunned with

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Speaker 1: all this. There's so many people running around acting like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, so what if they turn on a finds

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Speaker 1: a warrant based on what we would call rument in

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Speaker 1: the intelligence community rumor intelligence, which is just a funny

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Speaker 1: way of saying not intelligence. You can just have somebody,

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about this. Someone could get a referral

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Speaker 1: to the FBI started on me. So yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, my my, my cousin, My cousin knows this.

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01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: This guy named Commy Bear, and he says that Bucky

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01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: is trying to run some special you know, Russia collusion effort.

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Speaker 1: And you convince some of the FBI and and and

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01:15:58,240 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: they can go to find as a quarters, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's crazy. See right, look at what is the basis

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01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 1: for all this? How can we take seriously any safeguards

1339
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 1: when what's been exposed thus far is that you can

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01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: just if the FBI wants to believe you, or some

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01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: people I shouldn't say the FBI, some people at the FBI,

1342
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 1: the d o J want to believe you. They just

1343
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: make up all your stuff. You know, your phones, your emails,

1344
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 1: and you're an American citizen, don't have to identify a

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01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 1: crime that you're committing. It's crazy. Are we got a

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01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 1: big hour three coming up? Team? Uh? Eight four, eight

1347
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 1: to five. We're gonna end the show with some life

1348
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: philosophy that I think you'll find very useful, um and

1349
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: very compelling, and we'll be back with that much more.

1350
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:54,640
Speaker 1: Stay with me other shows just talk at you in

1351
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: the Freedom Hud. We have a mission. We fight for

1352
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 1: the truth in a team effort and bucks back with

1353
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: our next play. When people are insecure and anxious, they

1354
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 1: often um defend against their own feelings by rejecting others,

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01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: and that often happens with minorities, It happens with ethnic ethnicities, races, religions,

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Speaker 1: and it also happens with respect to women. Um So,

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Speaker 1: any of you who have read my my book about

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01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 1: what happened, noo that I think that misogyny and sexism

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Speaker 1: was part of that campaign. Old fashioned sexism, uh and

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Speaker 1: a refusal to accept the equality of women. What happened

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Speaker 1: was sexism. There you get Hillary. Look, I'm willing to

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Speaker 1: drop the whole Hillary conversation if we don't have to

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Speaker 1: hear from Hillary anymore. But she's not dropping it. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not dropping it right. I'm not gonna give Hillary

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Speaker 1: the last word, last word, because my ears are paying

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Speaker 1: the price for Hillaries presidence in the public sphere. But

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Speaker 1: you'll notice the same thing from her as you'll always hear, right,

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Speaker 1: You'll hear from her that you know it's about sexism.

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Speaker 1: I would note that it's a little bit galling for

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Speaker 1: some of us to hear from Hillary Clinton that she

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Speaker 1: lost because of sexism in part, she said, in part

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Speaker 1: to be fair to the words, she is, but you know,

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Speaker 1: she lost in part because of sexism. When, as we

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Speaker 1: would say in the media business, or I think in

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Speaker 1: any business, I just this is the one I know

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Speaker 1: the best. Her unique selling proposition, so to speak, as

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Speaker 1: a candidate was that she was gonna be the first

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Speaker 1: woman president. Right, Her campaign was I'm with her. It

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01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,560
Speaker 1: wasn't vote for me based on the merits, right, it

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Speaker 1: was it was she's the first woman president in the

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Speaker 1: making new sexism. It's like, no, you know, if if

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Speaker 1: you would run a really compelling female candidate, she would win.

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Speaker 1: But Hillary is just not a compelling female candidate, as

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Speaker 1: we all know. She also has some other sexism based

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Speaker 1: advice to share with all of us. For women, they

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01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: will bear the brunt of looking for the food, looking

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Speaker 1: for the firewood, looking for the place to migrate to

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01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: where your crops are no longer uh growing, they're burning

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Speaker 1: up in the intense heat that we're now seeing reported

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Speaker 1: across UH North Africa, into the Middle East and into India.

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Speaker 1: So yes, women once again will be the primary um

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Speaker 1: primarily burdened with the problems of climate change. Let me

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Speaker 1: just reiterate here what's being said there in this recent

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Speaker 1: Hillary speech. She's saying that climate change disproportionately affects women.

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Speaker 1: Climate change is sexist. Can you I want you to

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Speaker 1: let that settle in a little bit there. That's right,

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Speaker 1: glory and putting aside for a moment whether or not

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Speaker 1: climate change is something to be can certained about. It's real, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Climate change is real. It's just always been real. It

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Speaker 1: has always been real. It is insignificant to your life

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Speaker 1: and mind. It will be insignificant to our great great

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Speaker 1: great great grandchildren's lives. And we are naturally decarbonizing as

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Speaker 1: a human race. That has been occurring naturally via market

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Speaker 1: and technological forces for over a century now, for really

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Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty years. And I can take you

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01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: through that progression one day if you want, But it

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01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: is as clear as clear can be. And yet you

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01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: have the fearmongering, and you have Hillary who is trying

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Speaker 1: to capitalize on climate change as an issue of sexism.

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Speaker 1: This was almost our current president, folks, you would have

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01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: been treated to one Hillary speech after another, but I

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Speaker 1: broke the glass ceiling. But it was unfair. You know,

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01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 1: you don't know which way you're going with Hillary. You

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Speaker 1: just know that it's going to be self serving and dishonest.

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Speaker 1: And I have to note that not only you got

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Speaker 1: Hillary telling you that climate change is sexist, which I

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Speaker 1: don't even know how you could get makeup dumber stuff

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Speaker 1: than this. At this point, like they're actually getting beyond

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Speaker 1: my creative capabilities here for mockery. It is getting hard

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01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 1: to mock some of Hillary's self aggrandizement and self pity.

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01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,759
Speaker 1: She does those two things simultaneously. She's amazing and should

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Speaker 1: be president. Oh woe is me? It's so sad. I'm

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Speaker 1: a woman. They wouldn't let me be president, right, It's

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Speaker 1: it's a pretty astonishing combination. But it's very real with Hillary.

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Speaker 1: But I would not that, you know, her whole sexism

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Speaker 1: is going to affect women things seems more than men,

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Speaker 1: which by the men men need look, you know, without

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Speaker 1: getting into the sexist and debate, men need food and

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Speaker 1: and dry land and would for fires as well. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why women are going to be the ones

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Speaker 1: who are disproportionately affected by this. I do not understand anyway.

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Speaker 1: There there was also a piece of the Weekend And

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Speaker 1: you can't make this stuff up, folks. I mean, this

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01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 1: is going beyond parody. This was printed in the New

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Speaker 1: York Times. No children because of climate change? Some people

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Speaker 1: are considering it. This is what the piece says. Add

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Speaker 1: this to the list of decisions affected by climate change?

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Speaker 1: Should I have children? It is not an easy time

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01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 1: for people to whold to feel hopeful, with the effects

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01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 1: of global warming no longer theoretical projections becoming more dire,

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01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 1: and governmental action lagging. And while few, if any studies

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01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,799
Speaker 1: have examined how large a climate change a role climate

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01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 1: change plays and people's childbearing decisions, it loomed large in

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Speaker 1: interviews with more than a dozen people ages eighteen to

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Speaker 1: forty three. Uh, okay, twelve people. It's not exactly a

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Speaker 1: a fantastic indicator of anything, right, I mean do they

1447
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 1: sit down and ask twelve people? Oh even if you

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01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 1: if you ask twelve people in you know, Red Hook,

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn what they think about climate change, then you're gonna

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01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 1: get a very different answer than if you ask people

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Speaker 1: from uh, you know, the Midwest. In this case, I

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01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: think they're asking people in Hyderabad in India. Anyway, that

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01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. I mean you could ask people. Twelve

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01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 1: people is not enough? Is not enough to get a

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Speaker 1: sense of anything. Um, but this is crazy, folks, This

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01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 1: is craziness. I mean when I say crazy, I don't

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01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 1: mean like, oh it's crazy, I mean actually disconnected from reality.

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01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: Need help, like need to seek some form of assistance

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01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 1: and therapy to cope with the anxieties of day to

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Speaker 1: day life. I promise you, folks, your kids and my

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01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 1: kids are not gonna be having wars in some mad

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01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: Max like dystopia where they're, you know, trying to knock

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Speaker 1: each other off of homemade dinghies or something. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's not That's not the way they is gonna go.

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Speaker 1: I assure you that is not the truth. And yet

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Speaker 1: here we are um the quote that they used, by

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Speaker 1: the way, in this piece. When The New York Times

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Speaker 1: tweeted this out, the quote was quote, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to give birth to a kid wondering if it's going

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Speaker 1: to live in some kind of mad Max dystopia. End quote.

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Speaker 1: Now this is where I get into a more serious

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Speaker 1: frame of mind for a second. Here, I spoke to

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Speaker 1: you last week about the left war on life and

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01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: on the unborn, as as as serious an issue as

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01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 1: there exists for me, but in a in an even

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01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 1: broader sense, the left adopts this nihilistic, almost earth worship position.

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Speaker 1: And it's not new right if you go back in

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Speaker 1: the past, scientists, Thomas Malthus, for those who are wondering

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01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 1: about when you could even look up mouthis thought, we're

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01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 1: gonna run out of food and it's more complicated than that.

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01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 1: He was a social scientist and wrote extensively, but the

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01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 1: basic idea was human population is ressing at x, food

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01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: production progresses at why we are going to have starvation

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01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: that affects a large portion of the of the global population. Well, mouth,

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01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 1: this was wrong, totally totally wrong. Why because he could

1486
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: not foresee technological advances, just like the climate change folks.

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01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: As we sit here and liquefied natural gas is soon

1488
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 1: to overtake oil and coal as the primary fossil fuels,

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01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 1: which is much cleaner in terms of carbon burning than

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01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 1: those two and very abundant. Uh, they can't predict technological

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01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 1: innovation either. But there is at the root of liberalism

1492
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: and leftism a kind of nihilistic atheism that, you know,

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01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 1: we need to prevent more life from happening. We need

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01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: to stop. We are the last of life. And it's

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01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 1: also a solop sism. It's it's a an obsession with

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01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 1: the self. Our children are not going to all drown

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01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 1: because of climate change. We should all be having as

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01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 1: many kids as we choose to. We should go forth

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01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 1: and multiply my friends. As you well know that the

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01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 1: New York Times would print something so dumb, so insane,

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01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 1: and that Hillary Clinton has her own version of it

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01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 1: tells us a lot about where the Democrats are only no, no, no, no, no, no,

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01:26:27,000 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 1: thank god, oh my god, my god. Yes, have two

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01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 1: different reactions till the Philadelphia Eagles, which, as I understand it,

1505
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 1: Philadelphia locals say Eagles right. There's some way that they

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01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 1: say it that I don't. Yeah, you're Mike's a super

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01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: Eagles fan, So how do they it Eagles right? They

1508
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 1: have a weird the Philly accent. They have a weird

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01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: way of saying it right. Or am I wrong here?

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01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,600
Speaker 1: You say Eagles? Okay, you're blowing up my spot right now.

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01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: I my college roommate is a Philly born and raised,

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01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: super Philly fan of all sports, and he would always

1513
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: say that if you're on like maybe it's the South

1514
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: side of Philly or the there's like a it Eagles.

1515
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: You know. It's kind of like you go to Baltimore.

1516
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 1: People sound like people sound, but there's some people who've

1517
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 1: got a super funky Baltimore accent. You could tell me

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01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 1: there's nothing in Philadelphia. Come on, absolutely, we get the

1519
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 1: yo and there yo Eagles, all right, Yo Eagles. Maybe

1520
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: that's been a little more like Rocky Balboa. Then alright, fine, anyway,

1521
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 1: point here being the Eagles one, as you all know,

1522
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 1: and that's great. I watched the I watched the Super Bowl.

1523
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 1: In that montage, we need a montage, the opening montage

1524
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: there we had Kobe Bryant, who was from Philadelphia, one

1525
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 1: of the greatest basketball players of all time. He was

1526
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 1: on Instagram freaking out and that sort of and I

1527
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: think he's with family, right, you could hear kids there

1528
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 1: or something. He was, yeah, yeah, with his wife and child.

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01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 1: Wife and child. So you know, that's exactly we like

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01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: to see people. It's a great story. Happy for the Eagles,

1531
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 1: half of the city of Philadelphia. In fact, I almost

1532
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 1: moved to Philadelphia some years ago to go to business school.

1533
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: It's a whole other story for another time. But the

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01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:36,600
Speaker 1: the Eagles one, and that's great. But then in the

1535
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 1: other part you may have been like, what is this

1536
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 1: noise I'm hearing? That was one of the riots that

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01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 1: was going on, or maybe you could call it, if

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01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: you wanted to be a little bit more generous, a

1539
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 1: Ruckus celebration. But they did flip a car over. I

1540
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 1: saw that they looted a store yelling everything is free,

1541
01:28:54,960 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: and I just don't understand. I don't get it, and

1542
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: I'm not picking. Look, this is also where it is

1543
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 1: legitimate and necessary to say this is one percent or

1544
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: less than one percent of overall Eagles fans, the whole

1545
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:14,839
Speaker 1: country outside of New England, based on the social media

1546
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: proclivities that were shared for the Super Bowl, the whole

1547
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:22,480
Speaker 1: country outside of outside of New England, and actually Montana,

1548
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 1: believe it or not, I saw on Twitter Montana was

1549
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 1: overall going for the Patriots. But people are rooting for them,

1550
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: and I know this is a very small group, and

1551
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm just happy for Philadelphia. It's great. They're gonna have

1552
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: a lot of fun now, big parade. Last night they

1553
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 1: were partying. I watched the whole thing. I thought it

1554
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 1: was a great game. Some people were complaining there wasn't

1555
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 1: enough defense. I think that a football game that ends

1556
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: up nine three after four quarters is like the worst

1557
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: possible thing, So there are some amazing catches. I thought

1558
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 1: it was great, so I enjoyed watching and I watched

1559
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 1: it with Ms Molly and my two brothers and one

1560
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 1: of my brother's girlfriends, and we ate a lot of nachos,

1561
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 1: which I will tell you nachos are good for all

1562
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 1: three meals. The next day. You can, in fact, reheat

1563
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 1: nachos in the microwave the next day for any meal,

1564
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 1: and they taste pretty much just as good as they

1565
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 1: did the day before, and they work for any meal.

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01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: In that regard, nachos are like the bacon of the

1567
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 1: chip world. They are utility players. You can get your

1568
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 1: nachos going for anything you need. But you know, there's

1569
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 1: the Kobe Bryant celebration versus the celebration we saw on

1570
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 1: the streets. And look, it's Kobe's just a you know,

1571
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: he's a native Philadelphian um and so he gets very excited.

1572
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: Or the Eagles have never won a Super Bowl before.

1573
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 1: That's a great story and and people should have fun

1574
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 1: with it and celebrate. Now. I love it here. We're

1575
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 1: all like, wow, it was a great game last night.

1576
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 1: But onto the riot side of it. I'm not gonna

1577
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 1: spend much time on this because come on, it's not

1578
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:53,679
Speaker 1: that not that many people that were doing this, although

1579
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 1: there were like tens of thousands taking to the streets.

1580
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 1: I did see that, But there's a difference. You're taken

1581
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 1: to the street and cheering and lipping cars over and

1582
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 1: stealing from a seven eleven or a CBS or whatever

1583
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 1: that was in the videos that people saw there. But

1584
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 1: I would just note that this is by no means

1585
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:14,759
Speaker 1: limited to the Super Bowl two Eagles fans too, although

1586
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: I do believe there is actually a courtroom in the

1587
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 1: Eagles stadium in the basement to adjudicate. Yes, Mike, Mike,

1588
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 1: we got a Super Eagles fan here in studio everybody,

1589
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 1: so they they are ready, They're ready to deal with

1590
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 1: whatever comes their way with Eagles fans. But the truth

1591
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: of the whole situation with rioting or the postgame celebrations

1592
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: that extend beyond what I think is uh is necessary

1593
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 1: and reasonable, is that I've seen it elsewhere too. When

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01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 1: I was at a little tiny Amherst College, which is

1595
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 1: right down the street from the University of Massachusetts. You

1596
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 1: mass Amherst, which always and I don't get into this stuff,

1597
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 1: this this pettiness, but people always do the whole you know,

1598
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 1: did you go to did you go to Amherst? I

1599
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 1: went to Amherst, And you say, well, if you went

1600
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 1: to Amherst College, you don't pronounce the age. But if

1601
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 1: you go to Amherst, you mass or you mask Amherst.

1602
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:15,560
Speaker 1: There's a different way of people saying it. I know

1603
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 1: this is all very this is all school rivalry stuff.

1604
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 1: I don't go there. I don't get into it. But

1605
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 1: you mass had like fifteen or twenty thousand students, so

1606
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 1: that was a pretty big school. And when the Patriots

1607
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 1: would win or when they would lose, depending on the game,

1608
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 1: sometimes they would have to bring in like riot police

1609
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 1: basically with tear gas to break up whatever was going

1610
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,440
Speaker 1: on in the streets, which when you're in central Massachusetts,

1611
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 1: not in any city you're you're bound to notice when

1612
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 1: all of a sudden there's there's like tear gas or

1613
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 1: pepper spray being deployed in large, large quantities at a

1614
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:52,640
Speaker 1: college gathering. So this is by no means new. This

1615
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 1: is not something that we have not seen elsewhere and before.

1616
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 1: And the Washington Post actually did an analysis of this quote.

1617
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 1: Why do ends feel so strongly about their teams. We're

1618
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 1: social creatures. We have a need to belong said Daniel Juan,

1619
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 1: a psychology professor at Murray State University. People often split

1620
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 1: themselves into categories based on occupation, ethnicity, gender, or other factors.

1621
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 1: That sense of belonging belonging can often be beneficial. In

1622
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 1: studies on college students, Juan has found that fans who

1623
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 1: identify strongly with a team are often less likely to

1624
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 1: feel lonely or alienated and have higher self esteem. But

1625
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:33,600
Speaker 1: then they go what happens in fans brains after a

1626
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 1: win or loss. Because of that strong identification. For ardent fans,

1627
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,560
Speaker 1: the team becomes an extension of the fan, and that

1628
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:46,639
Speaker 1: can have profound effects on people's psychology and even physiology. Yeah,

1629
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 1: so there's that, and then they go one more step here,

1630
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 1: So where does the urge for violence come from? Most

1631
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 1: agree the mob mentality has a lot to do with it,

1632
01:33:56,400 --> 01:34:00,719
Speaker 1: and study after study psychologists have shown people often behave

1633
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 1: differently in big crowds. Yeah, so thanks Washington Post for

1634
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:07,800
Speaker 1: telling us all what we already know. People can act

1635
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 1: like idiots in big crowds. And the best study of

1636
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: this is actually Gustave Le bon l E and then

1637
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 1: b o n The Crowd, a study of the popular mind,

1638
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 1: and it's it is a a philosophical and I guess

1639
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 1: somewhat scientifical. It's really just based on philosophy, but it's

1640
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 1: a philosophy philosophy, philosophical deep dive into the um. It's

1641
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 1: a philosophical deep dive into why a crowd acts the

1642
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 1: way that it does and how it how it functions,

1643
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 1: why it thinks in the manner that it does, and

1644
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 1: everything else. So if you're looking for a version of

1645
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 1: and this is from a hundred hundred gosh, I forget

1646
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,600
Speaker 1: how many years Gustave le Bon is nineteenth century, I

1647
01:34:56,680 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 1: think I forget one exactly. Um, But the truth is

1648
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 1: that Gustav le Bon is the best version of this

1649
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 1: that I've ever read. So that will explain why people

1650
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,719
Speaker 1: flip cars over and light things on fire after sporting events.

1651
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 1: And maybe another time we'll do a deep dive into

1652
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 1: the mob mentality. But congrats to the Congrats to the Eagles.

1653
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm very happy for them. First time ever, right, first

1654
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 1: time they've ever won. Which it's interesting because they've been

1655
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 1: a good franchise for a long time. I remember, you know,

1656
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: Eagles have been competitors, you know they've done well. As

1657
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 1: a by family Giants fan, so I was forced to be.

1658
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 1: There was no question. It was like you're going to

1659
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 1: be raised Roman Catholic, you're also going to be a

1660
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 1: Giants fan. Um. The Eagles have a certain you know,

1661
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 1: the other side feeling for me, but I'm very happy

1662
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 1: for them. Nonetheless, I'm very happy that Eagles came away

1663
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 1: with the w and it was a great game. The

1664
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 1: worst part of the whole thing was the halftime show.

1665
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody says, that guy justin Timberlake

1666
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:02,719
Speaker 1: is talented, but his music does not match his overall talent.

1667
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad that there's somebody that can provide

1668
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 1: the soundtrack for exotic dancers for the foreseeable future. But

1669
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 1: that's about the most you can expect from timber Lakes music,

1670
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 1: in my opinion. And with that, we will go into

1671
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 1: some other thoughts on the side of the breaks the

1672
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 1: next segment after this one. It's gonna be a little sad,

1673
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:33,680
Speaker 1: but also inspiring and I think really worthwhile. I'll need

1674
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 1: you to stay with me until the end of the

1675
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 1: show to get into it, and I will also tell

1676
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:42,680
Speaker 1: you that won't be an easy one for me to do.

1677
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:48,679
Speaker 1: It's nothing about me. It's stories and advice from some others.

1678
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 1: But it really stuck with me and I've read through

1679
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 1: It's not long. I've read through it a number of times,

1680
01:36:56,280 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 1: and I think there's tremendous wisdom in it, and uh,

1681
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 1: I may get a little choked up during it, so

1682
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 1: I just would advise that that may happen. I am

1683
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 1: sometimes a bit sentimental or dare I even say, I

1684
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:23,759
Speaker 1: am sensitive to certain things, and I think you'll understand

1685
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 1: why in the next segment. Like I said, nothing that

1686
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 1: this has nothing to do with me or or my life.

1687
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 1: It's it's the lives of others that I can draw

1688
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:37,719
Speaker 1: some real wisdom from. And I think it's a powerful segment.

1689
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 1: So I hope you will stay through for it, and

1690
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 1: I won't get into more detail than that. But before that,

1691
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to have a little bit of fun with you,

1692
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 1: which is why I figured we could address the question

1693
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:56,320
Speaker 1: that feels very apropos for the Freedom Hunt, just out

1694
01:37:56,479 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 1: of curiosity. I really it wasn't rolling, because I'm not

1695
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 1: trying to antagonize anyone, but I was. I was chumming

1696
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 1: the waters with this one a little bit. I on

1697
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 1: Sunday during the I think it was during the super Bowl, actually,

1698
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 1: I asked or I was right before the Super Bowl.

1699
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 1: I asked the following question on Twitter. Can a movie

1700
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 1: be placed in the action genre if it takes place

1701
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 1: in a pre Gunpowder era. Now this is not to

1702
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 1: say that a movie or the question is not can

1703
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 1: a movie have or or not have action if it

1704
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 1: is pre Gunpowder? But I just meant in terms of

1705
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 1: the genre, which is something that's come up on this show,

1706
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:47,639
Speaker 1: for example, action is it's a kind of arbitrary genre,

1707
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 1: but you know, you know when you see it. And

1708
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 1: those of you like me who spent way too much

1709
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:57,560
Speaker 1: of your childhood literally wandering around movie rental stores, it

1710
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 1: was great. Man. I used to just wander around sound

1711
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 1: and check out all the different empty boxes of VHS

1712
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:06,640
Speaker 1: tapes and see what was there. I used to love it.

1713
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 1: It was a great thing. My mom would let me

1714
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:10,640
Speaker 1: do it while she was getting groceries. You know. My

1715
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 1: older brother and I could go wander into the little

1716
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 1: video store next door. Talk about a business that doesn't

1717
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 1: really exist anymore. Their video rental stores everywhere when I

1718
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 1: was an early teenager, and then Blockbuster kind of took over.

1719
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:26,599
Speaker 1: But action was a genre. What I say to people though,

1720
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 1: is Westerns can have a lot of action, but Westerns

1721
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 1: are their own genre. So all those Clint Eastwood movies

1722
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 1: that people call in during action movie quote Friday and

1723
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 1: say hey, and they gave me a quote from it.

1724
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that's really action. I think it's a Western.

1725
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 1: It can have action in it, but that's not the

1726
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 1: same as falling in the genre of action. And with

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01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 1: pre Gunpowder, I know that seems like a somewhat arbitrary separation,

1728
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 1: But in the pre Gunpowder era, I think you could

1729
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:01,760
Speaker 1: make a case that some of the great movies are

1730
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:08,680
Speaker 1: historical epics or are historical drama, you know. But but

1731
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 1: then there's some crossover into other into other genres too.

1732
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 1: And I knew I asked this question and from the

1733
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 1: team and from others I was going to get I

1734
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 1: was going to get a bit of a pile on,

1735
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:23,639
Speaker 1: and I did. I did. So. The question is can

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01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 1: a movie be placed in the action genre if it

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01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 1: takes place in a pre Gunpowder era, and a lot

1738
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 1: of your like, yes, it can, buck And that is

1739
01:40:33,479 --> 01:40:36,720
Speaker 1: what came across here. The big the big ones that

1740
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:40,639
Speaker 1: I have to agree are the ones that generally speaking,

1741
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:43,560
Speaker 1: get me thinking, yeah, those are action movies, they're not

1742
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:51,560
Speaker 1: really historical epics. Are movies like Gladiator and Braveheart. Braveheart

1743
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 1: is probably all in my favorite movie of all time,

1744
01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:00,919
Speaker 1: and I've mentioned before that Braveheart was the name, the nickname,

1745
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:05,320
Speaker 1: not of William Wallace, who for some one day I'll

1746
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 1: do a whole show on the real William Wallace. Not

1747
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 1: a whole show, but a segment, probably a shield hie,

1748
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 1: actually on the whole on the real William Wallace. Oh,

1749
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 1: and that's where I also would note, sorry, there's no

1750
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 1: Shields High today. We took a week off to do

1751
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 1: a little additional research. It'll be up and running next week,

1752
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,719
Speaker 1: and so your next shield High installment will be next Monday.

1753
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 1: The research team of Buck needed to take a couple

1754
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:31,640
Speaker 1: of days off and actually watch the Super Bowl with

1755
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:34,839
Speaker 1: Ms Molly and his brothers and not have his headphones

1756
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:38,559
Speaker 1: on while he's audio editing a history podcast. But back

1757
01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:42,560
Speaker 1: to this question about action, I usually think of Gladiator

1758
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:46,519
Speaker 1: and uh and Braveheart when I think of can you

1759
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 1: have an action movie that is pre gunpowder, so there's

1760
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 1: no guns, no firing of any weapons that aren't you know,

1761
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 1: bows and arrows and crossbows, and a lot of you

1762
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 1: pointed out right away, Hold on a second, what is

1763
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 1: three hundred if not an action movie? And I think

1764
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 1: you got it on that one. I don't think you

1765
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 1: can make a case that three hundred is anything other

1766
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 1: than an action movie. I do see here on Twitter

1767
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 1: that Hector wrote THET Warrior, which I just that really,

1768
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 1: I found that fascinating because it's a It was a

1769
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 1: disaster at the box office. It has Antonio Benderis, but

1770
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:27,599
Speaker 1: it's based on the Michael Crichton Eaters of the Dead,

1771
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 1: and it has an interesting kind of history based plot.

1772
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 1: It's a guy from the apposite Caliphate of Baghdad makes

1773
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:40,880
Speaker 1: his way to Viking territory and there are there's kind

1774
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 1: of a pre I don't know what you say, a

1775
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:47,599
Speaker 1: pre Bronze Age people that essentially eat people, their cannibals

1776
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 1: up there. It's kind of an interesting out there plot.

1777
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:53,839
Speaker 1: But that movie did terribly the box office. I actually

1778
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 1: owned it on DVD. I think it's because it was

1779
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 1: one of those DVDs when I was in college you

1780
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,600
Speaker 1: could buy for like five bucks or something in the

1781
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:03,720
Speaker 1: in the store and one of those bins. So I

1782
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 1: actually owned it in college and watched it a fair amount.

1783
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 1: But your your answers here, I cannot begin to uh

1784
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 1: push back against this. You guys were all correct when

1785
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:19,680
Speaker 1: you add in Brave Heart Gladiator three hundred and and

1786
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 1: many others that aren't even coming to mind right away.

1787
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 1: The answer is that, yes, in fact, you can. The

1788
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 1: team Team Buck established it beyond any dispute. You can't

1789
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 1: have an action movie without the usage of any gunpowder weapons.

1790
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 1: So the question was answered, and thank you very much

1791
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 1: for that. Um, I have some wisdom to share with you,

1792
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:46,560
Speaker 1: not for me, from well, from some kids actually and

1793
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:49,559
Speaker 1: a doctor who's passing it along. I think you'll really

1794
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:52,200
Speaker 1: find this worth your time, So stay with me through

1795
01:43:52,240 --> 01:44:05,559
Speaker 1: the break and Hay teemed to close out the show. Today,

1796
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 1: I have something a little different in mind than roll Call,

1797
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:13,759
Speaker 1: and it came to me in one of those moments

1798
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 1: over the weekend where I realized I was looking at

1799
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 1: my phone and paying attention to the political disputes going

1800
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 1: on in the aftermath of the Trump memo and not

1801
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 1: focusing as much on MS Molly, And also later in

1802
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,920
Speaker 1: the weekend for Super Bowl Sunday time I was spending

1803
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 1: with my two brothers, I was all caught up in

1804
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 1: the back and forth of the memo and not focused

1805
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 1: on my life for a few moments, and it reminded

1806
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 1: me of this thread that I saw on Twitter. So

1807
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:52,639
Speaker 1: I'm now going to use social media as a way

1808
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:55,639
Speaker 1: of telling us all not to spend too much time

1809
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:57,879
Speaker 1: on social media. But I do think that the message

1810
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:02,280
Speaker 1: contained within is is very powerful. It's also quite a

1811
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 1: bit sad when you think about it, but I well

1812
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:09,800
Speaker 1: it it's stuck with me. Very few things in this

1813
01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:16,519
Speaker 1: current era of constant news stimulation and engagement, very few

1814
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 1: things that are not bombshell stories, tend to stick with

1815
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:23,840
Speaker 1: me for a few days, and uh, this is this

1816
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 1: is one of them. So here is the story. Um,

1817
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 1: and let me just first say that this is about

1818
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 1: This is about palliative care for pediatric pediatric patients. So

1819
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 1: these are children who have terminal diseases. Palliative in fact,

1820
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 1: it comes from the Latin paliarre, which is to cloak

1821
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 1: or to hide, because palliative care is about dealing with

1822
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 1: the pain and the minimizing the suffering. Essentially, you make

1823
01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:00,599
Speaker 1: someone as comfortable as you can for as long as

1824
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 1: you can, but there is really no hope or effort

1825
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 1: to treat the underlying disease. So you can imagine the

1826
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:17,439
Speaker 1: moment you're talking about terminal pediatric palliative care. This is

1827
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 1: this is tough stuff, but there's a lot of wisdom

1828
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 1: that can come from the thoughts of children who have

1829
01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 1: been faced with so much so early on in life.

1830
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 1: And this was put together by a doctor Alistair mac

1831
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 1: o Pine is his name, and he put this together

1832
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 1: on Twitter. He is himself a pediatrician, so he treats

1833
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 1: children who have terminal illnesses. And here's what he wrote.

1834
01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:50,600
Speaker 1: For an assignment. I asked some of my terminal pediatric

1835
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:54,840
Speaker 1: palliative care patients what they had enjoyed in life and

1836
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 1: what gave it meaning. Kids can be so wise, you know.

1837
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 1: Here are some of their responses. First, none said they

1838
01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 1: wished they'd watched more TV. None said that they should

1839
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:14,519
Speaker 1: have spent more time on Facebook. None said that they

1840
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:20,679
Speaker 1: enjoyed fighting with others, and none enjoyed the hospital. Many

1841
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 1: of them mentioned their pets quote, I love Rufus, His

1842
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 1: funny bark makes me laugh. I love when Jinny snuggles

1843
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:33,560
Speaker 1: up to me at night in Purrs. I was happiest

1844
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:40,639
Speaker 1: riding Jake on the beach. Many mentioned their parents, often

1845
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 1: expressing worry or concern. I hope mum will be okay.

1846
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 1: She seems sad. Dad mustn't worry. He'll see me again soon.

1847
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 1: God will take care of my mom and dad when

1848
01:47:55,600 --> 01:48:01,839
Speaker 1: I am gone. All of the pediatric palliative care patients

1849
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:07,720
Speaker 1: said they loved ice cream, which I can totally relate to.

1850
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 1: I just bought some ice cream myself yesterday. Miss Molly

1851
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 1: even called me out. She said, you're getting two pints

1852
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:16,639
Speaker 1: of ice cream for the house. I said, yes, indeed,

1853
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 1: I am. But all of these kids loved ice cream,

1854
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:23,160
Speaker 1: and I totally understand. I totally agree back to what

1855
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 1: they had to say here. All of them loved books

1856
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 1: or being told stories, especially by their parents. Harry Potter

1857
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:37,280
Speaker 1: made me feel brave. I love stories in space. I

1858
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:42,960
Speaker 1: want to be a great detective. Mm hmm. Excuse me,

1859
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 1: a great detective like Sherlock Holmes when I'm better. Mm hmm.

1860
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:57,800
Speaker 1: The doctor writes here, folks read to your kids. They

1861
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:04,240
Speaker 1: love it, the doctors. Stories are profound. Stories are really important,

1862
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:11,240
Speaker 1: whether they are fictional or true. They allow us to

1863
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 1: put our own lives into context and to inspire us.

1864
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 1: And when you really think about it, religion, for most

1865
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 1: of you listening, Christianity is storytelling. It is based on stories.

1866
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 1: The Bible is a book of stories. That's an addition

1867
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:32,920
Speaker 1: to someone who will probably say now bucket. The Bible

1868
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:37,720
Speaker 1: is universal and deadless truth, but it is still storytelling.

1869
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:40,240
Speaker 1: You are being told stories, so they can clearly have

1870
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:44,160
Speaker 1: a tremendous impact on our lives. And I will always

1871
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:49,640
Speaker 1: remember my parents coming home from a meeting with the

1872
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 1: headmaster of Regius High School where I went to school,

1873
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 1: which was a really exceptional place, and the headmaster, who

1874
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 1: it was a lifelong educator in a jesuit, was a

1875
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:07,719
Speaker 1: big proponent of whenever possible, eat dinner with your children,

1876
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 1: do not have the TV on. That's not to say

1877
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:13,479
Speaker 1: don't watch the Super Bowl with your kids and eat

1878
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 1: wings once a year. It's just to say, whenever possible

1879
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:21,760
Speaker 1: dinner as a family, without the television or any distractions on,

1880
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:25,599
Speaker 1: talk to each other and be with each other. He thought,

1881
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:28,920
Speaker 1: this Jesuit educator, that that had a profound impact on

1882
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 1: their academic ability, their ability to socialized, particularly with adults.

1883
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 1: And so it was um not just a question of

1884
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 1: what's important in life, but also what is helpful in

1885
01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:46,439
Speaker 1: life and reading to your kids, reading stories of all

1886
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 1: the teachers that I had growing up, I have to

1887
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:53,280
Speaker 1: say I think that the the one teacher who made

1888
01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:56,439
Speaker 1: a point. His name was Bill Ryan, He was my

1889
01:50:56,560 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 1: fourth grade homeroom teacher. He he read to us from

1890
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:02,640
Speaker 1: the Hammed and then The Lord of the Rings. And

1891
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 1: it's funny because we did a lot of other stuff

1892
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:09,040
Speaker 1: that year. I remember him reading to us. He would

1893
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:11,639
Speaker 1: just say, okay, everybody, you know, he would he would

1894
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:13,400
Speaker 1: turn the light down just a little bit because the

1895
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 1: light of the sun was always blasting into the classroom,

1896
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:19,760
Speaker 1: so he would just give us a little bit of

1897
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:22,880
Speaker 1: of quiet time and everybody would just sit with their

1898
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 1: hands on the desk, or you could even put your

1899
01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 1: head down on your hands on the desk if you

1900
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:29,600
Speaker 1: wanted to, and he would read to the class. It

1901
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:31,559
Speaker 1: was one of the most powerful things that any teacher

1902
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 1: I ever had did. But back to the wisdom of

1903
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,559
Speaker 1: Dr Alistair Mackael Pine, or i should say the wisdom

1904
01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:42,080
Speaker 1: of the the terminal palliative patients in his care. So

1905
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:46,639
Speaker 1: they all love being told stories. Here's what else they said. Quote.

1906
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 1: Many wish they had spent less time worrying about what

1907
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 1: others thought of them and valued people who just treated

1908
01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:57,840
Speaker 1: them normally. My real friends didn't excuse me, um, my

1909
01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:03,920
Speaker 1: real friends didn't care when my hair fell out or

1910
01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 1: m hm. Jane came to visit after the surgery and

1911
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 1: didn't even notice the scar. Many of them, uh loved

1912
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 1: swimming and the beach. I made big sand castles. Being

1913
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:25,640
Speaker 1: in the sea with the waves was so exciting. My

1914
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 1: eyes didn't even hurt. Almost all of them valued kindness

1915
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:35,800
Speaker 1: above most other virtues. My granny is so kind to me.

1916
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 1: She always She always makes me smile. Johnny gave me

1917
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 1: half his sandwich when I didn't eat mine. That was nice.

1918
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 1: I like it when the kind nurse is here. She's

1919
01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:57,960
Speaker 1: gentle and it doesn't hurt as much. Almost all of

1920
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 1: them loved people who made them laugh. That magician is

1921
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 1: so silly. His pants fell down and I couldn't stop laughing.

1922
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 1: My daddy pulls funny faces, which I just love. The

1923
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 1: boy in the next bed farted, The doc writes here

1924
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:23,160
Speaker 1: laughter relieves pain. Also, kids love their toys and they're superheroes.

1925
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:28,160
Speaker 1: My Princess Sophia Doll is my favorite. I love Batman,

1926
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 1: the doc writes. All the boys love Batman, and I

1927
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:39,400
Speaker 1: love cuddling with my Teddy. Finally, they all valued. They

1928
01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:45,520
Speaker 1: all valued time with their family. Nothing was more important.

1929
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:51,639
Speaker 1: Mom and Dad are the best. My sister always hugs

1930
01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 1: me tight, No one loves me like Mummy loves me.

1931
01:53:57,600 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 1: And Dr mac Opine then writes take home message, be kind,

1932
01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:08,920
Speaker 1: read more books, spend time with your family, crack jokes,

1933
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 1: go to the beach, hug your dog, Tell that special

1934
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:17,599
Speaker 1: person you love them. These are the things these kids

1935
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 1: wish they could have done more. The rest is details.

1936
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:31,360
Speaker 1: Oh eat more ice cream too, Dr Alistair macle pine, Well,

1937
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 1: I'll say this, the doc is right. These kids are right.

1938
01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 1: Shield Hie