1 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: Well, we were just talking about the pendulum of Karma 2 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: before this. It was just a light little chat we had, right, Oh. 3 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, really it was light. 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for us, it kind of was. But yeah, 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: it's the Libra Libra new moon. You know. I really 6 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: got to tell you, I typically really like the energy 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: of Libra season. And maybe it's because I'm a Libra stallium. 8 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's how it works or not, 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: but I do feel like this time of year. I 10 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: don't know if it's like everything just feels a little 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: more balanced to me, the fall energy coming in feels 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: nice and we're ready for it after a hot summer. Like, 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but I genuinely always 14 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: love Libra season. Do you feel that way or is 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: that just me? 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: Don't you have a Taurus? Right? 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, So I'm all about Venus. 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: It's peaceful, it's Venus. 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Venus. Okay. So Venus is the ruling planet 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: for Taurus and Libra. So that's like basically my whole chart. 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, Well, but for for Taurus it's all about 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 3: values and enjoy and pleasure, and for Labor it's all 23 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: about relationships, right, but Libra is much more cardinal, which 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: means it's much more assertive on getting the relationship at once. 25 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: And they act peaceful. 26 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: Right, Libra is a little deceiving that way. 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: But that's a fricking lie too, right. 28 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Libra likes to appear very peaceful and. 29 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: Price and as soon as you turn your back, buddy, 30 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: the sword comes out. 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. I've noticed that. That's interesting that you brought that 32 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: up because I have typically thought in the past Libra 33 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: is like such a gentle energy, and I'm like, oh no, 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: it's not. Yeah, yeah, okay, Well let's talk about there's 35 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: I was reading your outline and I love this new 36 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: way that you're doing it where there's all the different 37 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: energy patterns happening. But let's first start with what's happening with. 38 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: We had a Virgo eclipse, we have a new moon 39 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: coming in, and. 40 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: Again, how did you do with that Virgo eclipse? 41 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: It rocks me a little bit, not gonna lie, it 42 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: rocked me, like I can't tell if it was the 43 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: Pisces eclipse or the Virgo or just the combination of 44 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: all the things. But the last now it's been three 45 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: and a half weeks, it's just been wild. There's just 46 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: feels like that thing of where there's one thing after another. 47 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: I have sustained myself, but it's just definitely there's been 48 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: a lot of chance for the up and down emotional 49 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: kind of volatility around me. 50 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: And that's what I said last month when I was 51 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: talking about that virgo of eclipse is recognize it wordly 52 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 2: conditions are unstable. Yeah, and the importance in finding and 53 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: maintaining one's own inner footing and purpose and maintain the 54 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: focus in the midst of chaos. See, that's one of 55 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: the hardest things. Do you realize you cannot defeat mass 56 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: consciousness or mob consciousness. I'm sorry, if you allow yourself 57 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: to get into a crowd that gets into mob consciousness, 58 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: you cannot defeat that energy because it overtakes you. Think 59 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: of that. 60 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: No, it makes sense. 61 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: And so this is what we're all trying to do 62 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: for the next six months since that was an eclipse, 63 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: is stay out of the mob consciousness. 64 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: God, every time we do these podcasts, it's so fascinating 65 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: to me to connect it to what's happening universally or 66 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: out in the collective. And obviously, I think after we 67 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: did our last podcast, Marv and you talked about the 68 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: stuff coming in all the stuff happened with Charlie Kirk 69 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: being assassinated, and what's been so interesting for me about 70 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: that it was obviously a very sad experience. No matter 71 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: what side of the political scale you stand on. I 72 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: think we all can agree that shouldn't be happening in 73 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: our world, but it is, unfortunately, And what I'm starting 74 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: to see collectively is that everyone's getting fed up. I 75 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: think it's started very heavily with like, well, this was 76 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: the right and this was the left, and now as 77 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of time is going by, I'm seeing 78 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: more people kind of go, wait a second, this is 79 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: a bigger issue that we have on a whole, and 80 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: we're starting to maybe not buy in all the way 81 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: to we have to be this side or you have 82 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: to be that side. And it's been so lovely to 83 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: me to see even a small little bit of that 84 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: start to come into the narrative. 85 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: You know, I had a dream and what I was 86 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 2: shown in the dream is I was voting above the 87 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: clouds and it says this is where you need to 88 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: assend to accept what's going on in the ground. And 89 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: it showed me the capital of the United States and 90 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: looked down on it, and it said, that's how you 91 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: deal with it. You look down as an observer of what's. 92 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: Going on instead of getting how man. 93 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: Rise above and just look at it as an observer. Yeah, 94 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: we don't have to internalize it, we don't have to 95 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: argue it, we don't have to do any of that 96 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: because our job to move to a higher level of 97 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: consciousness is just to be above it and look down 98 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: on it. It's not that we're disconnecting. We're not disconnecting 99 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: by observing it and going through the process. So it's 100 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: again giving us an opportunity to rise to a higher 101 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: level of consciousness so we can just observe it without 102 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: getting emotionally caught up. 103 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: Yes, Like, I have to give my boyfriend this credit. 104 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: He's an Aquarius, so I think you'll appreciate this. But 105 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: he's always operated that way with politics, and so he'll 106 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: watch me kind of get you know, swirled up, and 107 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, just so worked up and frustrated. 108 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: This was happening more back around when they're like, you. 109 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: Know, he smiles at you a lot too. 110 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if he just smiles, he just kind 111 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: of is like. 112 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 2: Okay, if you don't see it, he's hiding it. 113 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's smiling. I think he just 114 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 1: kind of is like, Okay, Okay, there she goes. She's going, 115 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: she gone. But yeah, So I started last couple of 116 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: years feeling that way and just feeling like I think 117 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people feel again, regardless of what side 118 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: you're on, I think we all are like how do 119 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: they not see this? You know, like we have that mentality. 120 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: And he helped me because he the way he would 121 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: say it is just like you know, I literally observe 122 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: people on both sides saying the exact same thing about 123 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: the other side, and so he's never been as much 124 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: of an emotionally attached person to one side or the 125 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: other as me, because he's like, both sides are fucked up. 126 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: So like we just need to observe like what you're saying, 127 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: which is a very Aquarius like detached. Let's just think 128 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: about on the whole, like the collective here and not 129 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: necessarily giving so much energy to every single news article 130 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: that comes out that's trying to do exactly what it's 131 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: doing and get you fired. 132 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't waste my energy on trying 133 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: to get involved in that. 134 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: I've stopped now. 135 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: No, I mean I'm people interested just like you. Yeah, 136 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: I know you're people interest And when you're interested in people, 137 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: it's just a matter of either holding space for them 138 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: to download or just listening and understanding that they're processing 139 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: as you're holding the space for them. Because so many 140 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: people don't have the ability to have somebody hold space 141 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: and let them download without getting into an argument about it. 142 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: And so there's no point in arguing about it because 143 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: you're above it, you're observing it. So it's just like, 144 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: just like you're talking about, what he's like, is that 145 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: he's above it, so he doesn't have to argue about it, 146 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 2: but he can hold space. 147 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he does. 148 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: Because it works for you. 149 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 150 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes I've got to have the download and I've got 151 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: to get it out, you know me, Right, I definitely 152 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: have to. That is a part of me too, if 153 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: this needs, yes to get it out. 154 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: But you're processing it not only in this lifetime, but 155 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 2: you're processing all of the lifetime simultaneously. So that's why 156 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: the processing is so important. And you can process quicker, 157 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: better and faster when you stay objective and stay out 158 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: of the mob. Psychology and the chaos makes sense to me. 159 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: Wrap that up. So let's go into the new moon. 160 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, is it an a new moon or full 161 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: moo mo? See that? Okay, those three words together scare 162 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: the funk out of me. Aries full moon? I'm like, what. 163 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: Were your aries? Karmas moon? You know? The meeting behind 164 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: this full moon is applying intuition in an action plan, 165 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: and that's what areas. 166 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: Is all about. 167 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: Instincts. They follow instincts more than they follow what's happening 168 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: in front of them or the actions or whatever's going on, 169 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: and that's what there should do. That when areas become 170 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: need counseling, it's because they're being sucked into the drama 171 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: of physical realities and they're not following their intuition, which 172 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: is an instincts which operate in the moment. So their 173 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: job is to stay in the moment. So isn't that 174 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: what we're talking about when we're talking about this whole 175 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: psychology and social psychology is stay in the moment, follow 176 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: the instincts, stay above it, and don't get sucked into it. 177 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: And so we've got to learn how to develop the 178 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: analysis behind the scenes. 179 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: Okay, So that's the fact. 180 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: Gathering mission of this full moon. And then when we 181 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: have our facts, then when we understand and we're settled, 182 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: then we can fight for our beliefs if necessary. 183 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: That feels very aries, because an aries isn't going to 184 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: just sit back and take it or whatever. 185 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: That is the And look look at what we're waging 186 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: war against liars and traders. 187 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm not laughing. I'm only laughing because 188 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: it's just if people try to tell me, ever, oh, astrology, 189 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 1: like you're not in I'm like, okay, it is literally 190 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: mapping this all out. This crazy chaos that you think 191 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: is so unpredictable is actually written in this map if 192 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: you just wanted to follow. 193 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: It, or you could read my book, or you. 194 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: Could read your book. There you go. Okay, So we're 195 00:11:54,360 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: waging war against liars and traders. Yes, it feel like 196 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: we've been building towards that already. 197 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 2: So you're keeping your own counsel. See, that's the important 198 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: part of all of this full moon. Keep your own 199 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: council instead of being a team player. 200 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: Well that's aries too. 201 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: A team player would make you put you on a 202 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: competitive side, wouldn't it. Yeah, you don't want to be 203 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: on a competitive side. You just worried about a team player. 204 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: You've got your own counsel, your own intuition, your own instincts, 205 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: and that's what this area's full mood is about. Now. 206 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: The energy patterns is staying grounded in emotional conditions. And 207 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: this is the thing is pace. As Saturn goes back 208 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: into Pisces, this is the test of severance. This is 209 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:52,599 Speaker 2: the last sign in the zodiac. And when Saturn, the 210 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: disciplinarian or the establishment of reality is learning how to 211 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 2: just let go and turn it over to God or 212 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: the universe or whatever you want to call it. So 213 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: we're all in a letting go pattern right now. And 214 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: Saturn is a thirty year cycle basically, So you're letting 215 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 2: go of thirty years of your life right now. 216 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: That's a lot. We're a lot like well, it's a 217 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: lot of unlearning to do well. 218 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: For you, it's it's the basic adulthood of your life. 219 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 2: For me, it was my midlife crisis. Yeah, so you're 220 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: letting go of thirty years now, and so it's you 221 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: need you identify too personally with others troubles Now, this 222 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: is just what we're talking about. What we talked about earlier. 223 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: Stop identifying with the troubles. Either holds face, but don't 224 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: get involved in their shadow and their conflict. So you 225 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: don't identify with it. You don't identify with a lot 226 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: of the problems that people talk to you about. I 227 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: mean they come to me because I totally don't identify 228 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: with it. 229 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: Well, you can hold space and not identify, like you said. 230 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: Yes, and so it's the need to let go of 231 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: the past. That's where we're at. That's what this airs 232 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: moon is. And of course you know, a good areas 233 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: don't get caught up in the past because. 234 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: It's always moving forward. 235 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so that's the beauty of this ares full 236 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: moon is let go, let God. And of course you 237 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: know I loved looking at not just planets, I like 238 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: looking at the asteroids as well. You know, Austraya is 239 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: a very powerful what do you call her a Well, 240 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: she was the last goddess okay to leave the earth 241 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: and take her position in the heavens. With all the 242 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: other gods left in mythology, Austraya held on to the 243 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: very last. So it was the time of moving for imanity, 244 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: moving out of the Golden Age to the Iron Age 245 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: and all the corruption that the Iron Age brought in. 246 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: So Austraya finally in a huff because she realized she 247 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: wasn't going to turn humanity around back to the Golden Age, 248 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: so she left and she her took her place in 249 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: the heavens. So, in other words, Astraya is always about 250 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: hanging on too long and looking for It's that struggle 251 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: to be living up to the cosmic truth versus being 252 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: pulled down into earthly imperfections. So when she couldn't stay 253 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: in that cosmic universe, she had to leave the imperfections 254 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: of humanity to itself. And so this is where we're 255 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: at because Austraya is squaring Venus in this chart. So 256 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: we all have got to look at any kind of 257 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: imperfections and accept the imperfections and fallacy of humanity and 258 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: deal with it from a place of letting it go. 259 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: Isn't this like integrating your shadow? Isn't this like integrating 260 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: your shadow like we were talking to us. 261 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly is. And then Astraea is also squaring Saturn, 262 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: which means your vision of fairness must include forgiveness, of 263 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: compassion and the acceptance of human frailty. And see Austraya 264 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: had a hard time with that. She couldn't do it 265 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: when she was, you know, the goddess over the Golden 266 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: Age and man moved into the Iron Age. She had 267 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: a hard time with accepting the frailty of the human drama. 268 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 2: And of course the big one for this full moon 269 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: is Pluto squares Mercury. 270 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, what I wrote, he wrote, he wrote in bold, secret, secret, secrets, lies, 271 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: lies and more lies. 272 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:32,239 Speaker 2: Okay, And it's mercury. So it's going to be about business, communications, travel, trauma, transportations, 273 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: intelligence and spy, communities, politics, and personal relationships. All of 274 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: those are going to be brought to bear with mercury 275 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 2: because mercury is what Mercury is, the connection between it's 276 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 2: the healer, but it's also the connection between the drama 277 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: and the higher level of awareness. 278 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: I just thought mercury, Mercury was about communication. 279 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: It is communications, travel, Okay. 280 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: So communications, there's just one part of it, okay. 281 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: Yes, So it's communicats also brothers and sisters in short 282 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: journeys and early education and those type of things. So 283 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 2: when you're talking about mercury, which is the caduceis symbol, 284 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: it's the healer, it's because this is how we as 285 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: frail humans can connect to our higher self is through mercury, 286 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 2: and that's how we can heal. So at this point 287 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: we have discovered quantum healing and quantum physics. So in 288 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: other words, that's part of the transition, and that's what 289 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: Pluto's bringing up as well, is bringing up the shadow 290 00:18:54,320 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: issues to see the lies, the deceit, the secrets, the 291 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: shadows that we all hold, and it's exposing them into 292 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 2: so that we can take them into our bodies, so 293 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: that now we can heal the body by moving into 294 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: the quantum realm and losing our sense of individual identity 295 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 2: and allowing the universe of perfection to heal us when 296 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 2: we're in that space. How beautiful is that? 297 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it is beautiful. It still sounds like a 298 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: lot of just letting go. 299 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 2: Well it is, yeah, But now it's not just a 300 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 2: letting go from a conscious perspective. It's letting go of 301 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: an identity. And that's the big piece of it. You see, 302 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 2: we all identify with our shadows, with all of our stuff, 303 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 2: the lies we tell ourselves, the belief systems that we 304 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 2: believe and live in, all of these aren't true. I 305 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: mean when you start studying those higher realms, there are 306 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: no belief systems. I mean, you're in universal consciousness, there's 307 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: no belief. It's creation. You create whatever you believe. Think 308 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: about that. I told somebody here, a client here, about 309 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: a month ago, I said, go away your beliefs. There 310 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: are no beliefs. They're just lies. But you look like 311 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 2: I had two horns, So I. 312 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: Say, I think. Yeah. Like a way that I say 313 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: it to people is, you know, programming is a big 314 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: word people use now, and I think we all come 315 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: into this world as these like fresh daisies with no 316 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: attachments to anything like what you're talking about, and then 317 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: it's almost like we get programmed to believe so many 318 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: things throughout our lifetime and our childhood. And then if 319 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: you're lucky enough, I think you get to a certain 320 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: age where you go, wait a second, do I believe that? 321 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: And you start asking the questions, or some people do 322 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: it their entire lives. But that's what I think you're saying, 323 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: is like these beliefs, these things, they're just things we 324 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: attached to as some you know, basically some narrative that 325 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: another human usually makes up, and we believe it to 326 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: be so true, and we attach all of these like 327 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: all this weight to it. So then when it doesn't 328 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: work out the way we think, we either go back 329 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: into control or we crumble. And it's just like there's 330 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: no space for allowing and allowing for the creation like 331 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: you're talking about, or for the universe to do its 332 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: work as we wanted it to when we first came 333 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: to this world. And so just like learning to not 334 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: attach to all this it's like attaching to good and 335 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: bad like we don't know. You don't know all the time. 336 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, people if people sometimes get rid 337 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: of one belief and move them to another belief, So 338 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: we can jump from beliefs to beliefs, to beliefs to 339 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: beliefs until we're face falls off. 340 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's hard not to because that's kind 341 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: of what we're taught to do. 342 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 2: And this is what we talked about last. It's about 343 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 2: breaking up your routines. Yeah, switching up things that you 344 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: do every single day routinely, because it's Vergo, it's habits 345 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: and routines, and so I mean we're under that guise 346 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: of that Virgo eclipse. So I mean, you know, we 347 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 2: need to break up all the routines bring up all 348 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: the beliefs that you keep following and don't even realize 349 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: you're following them. Yeah, and then that gives a opportunity 350 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 2: for spirit to slip in and give you a little guidance. 351 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: So when we go into the Lieb New Moon on 352 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: the twenty first of October, that's unbelievable. Striving to reach 353 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 2: an entirely new level of consciousness. Is that not exactly 354 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: what we've been talking about. Yeah, Free oneself from the 355 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: psychological assumptions of the dominant society, like a snake shedding 356 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: its skin. Want a metaphor, and that's rising and looking 357 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: down on society from the way we've been getting involved 358 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 2: in the physticus of it. Shed the skin of society, 359 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 2: shed the skin of the mob psychology, the arguments, the frustrations, 360 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: the shadows of everybody. And that's how you're going to 361 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 2: see through the delusions and the impatient demand for radical 362 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: restructuring of society, which is exactly what we've got to 363 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 2: go through. We need to go through this. It's ugly 364 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: because we hate the immorality of the leadership that's doing it, 365 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: But who was going to do it? It took an 366 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: immoral person to get its shit started. 367 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: Well, it's like anything, right, we always on this podcast, 368 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: but we don't change without pain. I don't believe as humans. 369 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: And that's why you hear, you know, with addiction based 370 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: models or anything like, you have to hit rock bottom 371 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: before anything is probably going to change or you're gonna 372 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: do something different. And I think that's what we're seeing 373 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: right now. But to your point of needing to let 374 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: go of the like mob mentality, I think people are 375 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: so tired of the fighting, like even though it's still happening. 376 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: I am seeing a lot of narrative around that as 377 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: well of people just being like, oh my god, can 378 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: we stop for a second, Like it's exhausting, you know, 379 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 1: and I think so many of us have been feeling 380 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: that for so long. And also we're seeing like it 381 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: wasn't really necess it's not necessarily good anywhere we look 382 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: in our leadership right now, and so you can kind 383 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: of like go, Okay, well we have to restructure. We're 384 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: like we needed this all to hit the fan the 385 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: way it is. I think we needed it to get 386 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: as bad as it was or is to then go, 387 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: how are we going to rebuild it? And how do 388 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: we stop turning on each other because our only option 389 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: right now is to stop that. And I think that 390 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: is slowly but surely, is starting to become more of 391 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: the narrative. 392 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that we even need to get 393 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: into how we're going to rebuild it. 394 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: We're not there yet. 395 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: We're not there, and so you're projecting into your idea 396 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: of what it could be, right, which is a belief, 397 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 2: So we can't project Pluto is change with pain. That's 398 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: the point of Pluto. It's spent six months underground and 399 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: six months above ground. So when it brings up above ground, 400 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: all of the underground shadow issues now become fully aware of. 401 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: It brings it up. You can't eye in Pluto because 402 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 2: it's going to expose it. So it exposes all of that, 403 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 2: and so we're being exposed to the collective and the 404 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: social structure that we built for two hundred and forty years. 405 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: That was the wrong way of humanity. And we're going 406 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: to see spasticarian age comes in. So we have an 407 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 2: insight into the aquarian age that we can discuss if 408 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 2: you're on equal footing with somebody, but you're not going 409 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 2: to debate how it's going to be because it's going 410 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: to be greater than you know, right, And so seeing 411 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: through the collective delusions, impatient demand for a radical restructuring 412 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 2: of society. So yeah, we're all impatient. We all wanted 413 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 2: it over with yesterday. 414 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: We all want instant gratification in a quick fix. 415 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: Boomers. Oh yeah, most certainly. This is why it's a 416 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: greater sproblem front Boomers. I mean, you know, we're the 417 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 2: ones that discovered instant gratification, credit cards, black and white 418 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 2: TV turned the color. Oh I want it, right, and 419 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: I want it now, even if I can't afford it, 420 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: Give me a credit card. 421 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: Right, And it's only gotten worse. 422 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: Yes, And so we have to learn that we attract 423 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 2: relationships as a mirror of who we are internally to 424 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: correct the belief of lack and disharmony in ourselves. So, 425 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 2: in other words, when we look at society, is this 426 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: disharmony and this psychology, Well, it's in us. We've participated 427 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: in before. It resides in us. 428 00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 3: You know. 429 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: It's just like I've always tell clients, Look, you can't 430 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: see it in somebody else unless it's in you to see. 431 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: You spot it. You got it. 432 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: And so when we're bantering about the social problems and all, well, 433 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: those problems rely on us, and we're not to fix it. 434 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: It's not ours to fix that's the problem. And that's 435 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: how you come up with a belief and an attitude 436 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 2: and a perspective. That's an error. There's something to fix. 437 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: What is it? Then to stop participating? 438 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: It's not necessarily stop participating, is it? In You have 439 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: to understand that it's a reflection that you can find 440 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: inside of you and make the correction insight of you. 441 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: I want to break this down for just a little 442 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: bit because when I first started hearing you talk about 443 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: the mirror thing, I was confused because we were talking 444 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: about it in relation to dating, for instance, and I 445 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: think you can apply that to this bigger scale thing too. 446 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: But whenever I first heard the mirror kind of example 447 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: or whatever you call that analogy, it was that I thought, 448 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: let's say you were saying, well, this emotionally unavailable person 449 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: that you're dating is reflecting all that back to you 450 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: or whatever. So I thought to myself, well, I'm not 451 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: an asshole like he is, or I'm not like I 452 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: would say comparing you know what I mean, Like I 453 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: would just compare the qualities that I was not working 454 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: well with, and think, how is the mirror thing? True? 455 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: We're nothing alike, But what was actually being mirrored to 456 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: me was that the way that person was treating me 457 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: was actually how I was treating myself too, And there 458 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: wasn't a higher belief system that I deserved to be 459 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: treated any differently because it was how I would treat 460 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: myself on the day to day. Like he wasn't available 461 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: to me, Well was I available to myself? No? And 462 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: those were the things that I learned. And so I 463 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: think I think of that in this place when you're 464 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: talking about it here, because I think we all want 465 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: to go, I'm not like that, I'm nothing like that, 466 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: But like, what in their behavior is it showing you 467 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: about you? And especially if you're triggered or reactive or 468 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: all this stuff, Like it's definitely mirroring something to you 469 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: to learn about yourself. And that always helps me that 470 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: like break down a little bit, just so you're not 471 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: totally going, oh, well, I'm exactly like that person's of 472 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: this analogy doesn't make any sense for me. That's not 473 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: what this is. 474 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: Look, libra is relationships externally physically, right, Yes, it's also 475 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: the divine relationship, the relation trip between your soul and 476 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: your ego, and so how much do you object or 477 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: what you would just saying saying, how much do you 478 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: reject the soul just like you reject the physical? Right, 479 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: So you know, I would say to you that, you know, 480 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: be careful calling him an asshole, because then you got 481 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: to say, where am I an asshole? And you may 482 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: not be an asshole in that physical relationship, but you 483 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: could be an asshole to your soul. 484 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: Well that's what I was saying. I was being an 485 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: asshole to my soul. It was like I wasn't even 486 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: ever acknowledging that I had a soul. Do you know 487 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: what I mean? Talk about abandonment. There was so much 488 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: self abandonment happening. 489 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: Right well, but that's why we're down here, so we 490 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:46,239 Speaker 2: can discover that abandonment, right and discover those conflicts. And 491 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: so we're always looking at the disharmony in ourselves, even 492 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: from a social standpoint. So we've got to learn social 493 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: equality and learn to listen to others to establish their 494 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: needs from their reality as it exists for them, not 495 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: from ours. And that's how you just hold the space 496 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: for other people because that's their belief. So the energy 497 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: pattern for this Libri new moon is actually a T square, okay, 498 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: which is a Pluto squares to new moon and Jupiter 499 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: squares the new moon as they're in opposition to each other. Now, 500 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 2: Jupiter is about expansion, Pluto is about bringing stuff to 501 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: the forefront and transformation. Okay, So we've got to learn 502 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: the release point is in a T square is the 503 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: open ends like a three legged table. So the leg 504 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: that's missing is called the release point, which is Capricorn. 505 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: So it's suggesting the way forward is through structure, discipline, responsibility, 506 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: and boundaries. 507 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: Capricorn. 508 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: That okay, And so it's time to release unhealthy patterns 509 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: of control and dependency okay. And of course the emotional 510 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: growth is Jupiter pushes for expansion, Pluto requires deep transformation first. 511 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 2: So there it is. That's the bottom line. We want 512 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: to expand as a society, as a culture, as a country, 513 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 2: as a people, but we've got to go through the 514 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: transformational process to get to where we want to go. 515 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: It's so hard when you're in that or when it's 516 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: coming up like it's in front of you, to go okay, yeah, 517 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: let me sign up for that. You know that sounds 518 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: so fun. Yeah, but I will say when I have 519 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: gone through Pluto transits in other areas of my life 520 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: now what I'm seeing on the other side of it, 521 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: I know there is no way that I could have 522 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: gotten to where I am now without having to go 523 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: down in and excavate basically and like clean out all 524 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: the things that were unnecessary or misaligned and all of 525 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: that stuff. And when you're obviously, when you're sitting on 526 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: the other side of it, it's much easier to go, oh, yeah, 527 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: that was so worth it. But it is truly and 528 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: it's something that can't be sidestepped, which I think is 529 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: what we've been trying to do the last couple of years. 530 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: And now it's like, yeah, no, that was cute, guys, 531 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 1: but the only way out is through. 532 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: See, that's why we call Pluto heaven and Hell. 533 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: Yes that Hell is. 534 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 2: The de evolutionary process and Heaven is the evolutionary process. 535 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: Makes so much sense. 536 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 2: We've got to get to that midpoint to now go 537 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: into an evolutionary process. So we're still in a de 538 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: evolutionary process and it is painful. You're letting go, but 539 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 2: that's it's painful because you never forget pain. Ever, so 540 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 2: a lesson comes with pain, you never forget. 541 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 542 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: See, Uranus is the planet that change without pain. You 543 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: don't have any pain with Uranus. It's just a sudden, 544 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: unexpected change. 545 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: Okay, So it's Pluto. 546 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: You're just breaking free from a reality that you're constructed 547 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 2: that no longer serves you. And so that's pretty simple. 548 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 2: But when you come to a Pluto, I mean you're 549 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 2: attacking stuff that you didn't even know you had. Yeah, 550 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: problems that you were holding inside that you didn't even 551 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 2: know it was there. 552 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: They're coming to your awareness too. Yes, with Pluto moving 553 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: into Aquarius, would it be helpful for people to go 554 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: look at the house they have Aquarius in and kind 555 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: of look at the themes there. 556 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's where you are on the cutting 557 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 2: edge of of moving forward. So I mean, you know 558 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 2: it's uh, you know, it just gives you more information. Yes, yeah, 559 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: because that's where they've got to change to get in 560 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: alignment with where we're all headed. That's the place they're 561 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 2: going to have to go through the greater greatest amount 562 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 2: of uh DE evolution and evolution. 563 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: Of course, Mon's in the tenth house, so I'm like 564 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: oh Jesus could God, And you. 565 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 2: Know what I've told you already know. I know. 566 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: For anyone listening that doesn't know, Tenthius is your public 567 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: facing house and your career and all of that. So 568 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: I just want to stay in writing. 569 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 2: Yeah right, you got no shot none? 570 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: Fine? Oh God. Well there there's a lot going on 571 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: as usual. But I like the way you presented it 572 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: this month because just as it's it's a necessary path 573 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: and like we're not going to be able to sidestep it, 574 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 1: like we said, we have to just walk through it. 575 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: I think that maybe we're getting into a little more 576 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: acceptance of that, or some of the people that I've 577 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 1: seen are, because it's been going on for so long now, 578 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: and I think it's only gotten deeper, and it's not 579 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: just gonna snap our It's not a thing where we 580 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: snap our fingers. And this goes back to quote unquote normal, 581 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: which you've been saying for years. 582 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm a big TikTok. I know. It 583 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 2: is so astounding to me how many people are coming 584 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 2: on that's channelers, that's intuitives, that's aware of physics and 585 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 2: the quantum reality. I'm just blown away by it. So 586 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 2: it's so many people are rising in consciousness to take 587 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: on to these aquariums truths. So it's happening already. Yeah, 588 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 2: we're all raising the level of consciousness and it's it's silent. 589 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: You don't know what's occurring, but it is occurring. 590 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: Oh, I agree. I mean, even though, like I know, 591 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: pop astrology isn't like your favorite, but even the fact 592 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 1: that like that kind of stuff is so openly talked 593 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: about and discussed now on such a universal level. I mean, 594 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: even if you don't believe in astrology, I don't think 595 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: you can escape astrology right now. 596 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 2: It's out there, you know, so well, guess who rules astrology? 597 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well it is front. 598 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 2: And that's that's the way it is for me. 599 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 600 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm an astrologer all my life and have to 601 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: move between the cracks to not be seen. And now 602 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, everywhere every totally accepted. Yeah. 603 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: So true. Yeah, you were like the weird back in 604 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: the day, and now it's like the norm. 605 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 606 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: So interesting. 607 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 2: When people ask me what I am, I just I 608 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 2: I'm a Master's follower. Yeah, they don't even flinch anymore. 609 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: No, I'm sure back in the day they were like, 610 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: oh okay, I'm over. 611 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 2: Could you imagine in corporate America you had to be 612 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 2: a slinky? 613 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I remember when he met feeling like, 614 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: oh no, I've never had this son. This is so 615 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,720 Speaker 1: exciting and interesting and new and out of the box. 616 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: And that was in my twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen. 617 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 1: Must have been twenty eighteen, because that's when this podcast started. 618 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's come a long way. So anyway, if 619 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: someone wants to do a reading with you personally, where 620 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: would they find you? 621 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 2: Marv Marvin at astromarv dot com. 622 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: As always, I always put that in the description of 623 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: this podcast where you guys also put Marv's website if 624 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: you want to go check that out. He also does 625 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: hypnosis if that is something you are interested in. It's 626 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: a great another form of healing modality. So go check 627 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: all of that out and we'll be back next month 628 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: for Scorpio season. I guess, is that right? Yeah, Scorpio season. 629 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 2: Fun. 630 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, you never know what scorpio season will bring. 631 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. 632 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: Oh boy, okay, well that's interesting. Let's just enjoy this 633 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: lever energy while we can. 634 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just leave it till next month. 635 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, thanks mar for being here, and 636 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for listening.