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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Emily, a body here.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to episode one hundred and seventy two

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Speaker 2: While this focus podcast where I sit down with inspiring.

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Speaker 3: For today's episode, I am chatting with James Lawrence. He's

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Speaker 3: He made headlines earlier this summer by doing something he

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Speaker 3: He didn't in Utah, where his family is based. For

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Speaker 1: and tools, and I mean we do we do red

440
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Speaker 1: light therapy, and we do hyper bear chamber, and we

441
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: do chiropractor, we do deep tissue, we do supplementations for

442
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: our cells, and I mean just all these things that

443
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: we do at a high level. I always say, look,

444
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: there's not one thing that we do that separates us

445
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,120
Speaker 1: from everybody else. The secret to success is doing a

446
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: lot of little things consistently over a long period of time.

447
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: And that's what most people aren't willing to do. They're

448
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: not willing to do all of the little things that

449
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: make the difference, and they're not willing to do them

450
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: consistently so they can feel the effects.

451
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: Of those Well.

452
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 3: I think the problem in that and the reason why

453
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 3: people don't do them right is because they don't feel

454
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 3: the It's not like an instant gratification thing. Like it's

455
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 3: like you need to get into some sort of a

456
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 3: habit or you need to create some sort of a

457
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: routine so that you can feel the accumulative effects of

458
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 3: all of these small things that can better you in

459
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: the long run.

460
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and people aren't willing to do that. They want

461
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: to take a drug that makes them superhuman right now

462
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: that heals them for tomorrow and you for long term success.

463
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: You just can't do those types of things. You've got

464
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: to do things and allow your body to adapt and

465
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: evolve over time. I mean, it's just how you have

466
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 1: to do it to be successful with these types of projects.

467
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 3: Did any of the recovery tactics that you started to

468
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 3: use completely like kind of blow you off your feet

469
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 3: in terms of you didn't expect them to help you

470
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 3: as much as they did.

471
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Speaker 1: That's a really tough one to quantify because we do

472
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: a lot of little things consistently, right, and so it's

473
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard to say, Okay, this one made

474
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 1: the biggest difference that this one did. And when you're

475
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: when you're at a level to where you're you're just

476
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: performing at such a high level, those micro micro adjustments

477
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: that you you know that we make in our training recovery,

478
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: you don't feel them immediately or you can't like quantify Okay,

479
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 1: this did this or this did this because you're doing

480
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: such a great job in executing at a high level.

481
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: So it's very easy for somebody to go on like

482
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: a new supplement or whatnot when they're coming off the

483
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: couch when their baseline is so terrible and you can

484
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: see a big, drastic difference, like this is making a

485
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: difference in my life. But like when you're a top

486
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: level like an olympian or the top of your game

487
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: in whatever sport you're doing, it's really hard to see

488
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: those big gains and changes because you're your body is

489
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: already performing at such a high level. But I know

490
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: through experience that all of these little things are making

491
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: a difference. It's just hard to see, yeah, because you're

492
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: already performing, right, and you're already done. Put so much

493
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: effort and time into getting to that point that it

494
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: becomes hard to quantify those small little things.

495
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 3: As you started to travel the country after the fifty

496
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 3: and do the speaking engagements and share more of your story,

497
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 3: was there a time during that period that you ever

498
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 3: started to feel a little bit of imposter syndrome or

499
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: were you like, this is one hundred percent my purpose.

500
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 3: I am so like, this is I am in, I'm

501
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 3: all in, no worries, I'm good.

502
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: Well, I'm an introvert and so and I'm good on

503
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: stage too. So it's really weird. And it doesn't bother

504
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: me to get up on stage and talking to crowds,

505
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: But when someone who knows me sees me on stage,

506
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: they're like, who the craft was that? Every time my

507
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: speaking bureau books me an event, I get like nervous

508
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: and be like, oh crap, I got to go do that.

509
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: But then once I get on stage, it is a

510
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: lot of fun. My story is my story, and I

511
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: tell it all the time. And I've had people see

512
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: me on a couple of different stages and they were like, oh, man,

513
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: I loved the way you changed that part of the story.

514
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: And I was like, I didn't change it. You're just

515
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: in a different part of your journey and something different

516
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: resonated with you. And so that's what's really interesting for

517
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: me is we appeal to a massive audience because you're

518
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: either at the start of your journey, in the middle

519
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: of your journey, or the end of your journey, or

520
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: somewhere in between. And our story covers an entire journey,

521
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: and so at some point in time you get engaged

522
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: with that part of what we're doing, and so that

523
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: that's a lot of fun for us too.

524
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 3: I love as you're talking about your experiences and traveling,

525
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: you keep using the wei and the R and recognizing

526
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 3: that this really is truly just such a family effort.

527
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: I'd be curious to know along the way, perhaps not

528
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: just yet up to the hundred, but along the way

529
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 3: the fifty obviously traveling throughout the United States with everyone,

530
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: were there hiccups or moments where you started to ask yourself,

531
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: like what am I putting my family through?

532
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: Like are we really going to keep doing this?

533
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, for sure, especially when they're super young and

534
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: your wife's pulling her hair out and I'm doing my thing,

535
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: and she's responsible to entertain the kids because you know,

536
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: we we we discuss our roles and we know, you know,

537
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: each have a very important role in order to keep

538
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: this thing moving. And when it gets chaotic and things

539
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: aren't going as planned and your bootstrapping things and things

540
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: start to go wrong and you've got to make sacrifices,

541
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: and so yeah, it becomes very difficult and challenging. You know,

542
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: we're not talking about one athlete, and the dynamic of

543
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: just okay, what are my needs in my you know, uh,

544
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: what do I need in order to keep moving? It's like, okay,

545
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: there's seven of us, and it's okay, what are my

546
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: wife's needs and what are my kids needs? And I've

547
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: got four teenage girls right now and a son and

548
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: so they're all very not demanding, but they all have

549
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: different needs and wants and as a parent, and you know,

550
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: we've got five different parenting styles because each one of

551
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: our kids is very unique. And it's so fun to

552
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: see that like these individuals came from the same two people.

553
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: I mean, we've been married, we're going on twenty one years.

554
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: But it's just so fun being a parent, But yeah,

555
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: it is hard in these types of challenges. And I

556
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: always say, look, when you're putting together a team, don't

557
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: look at someone's resume, don't look at someone's great moments

558
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: or their highlights. Go find out how that person performs under stress, fatigue,

559
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: and exhaustion, because that's who you want on your team

560
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: when that person's performing at their worst. Because everybody's great

561
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: when they're great. I mean that's easy. It's how great

562
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: are you when you're like broken? That's the team you

563
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: put together. And our family works really good. Exhausted, broken,

564
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: We are just problem solvers and we figured it out

565
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: and we keep moving forward. And that's when being a

566
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: team or a fan is a lot of fun, knowing

567
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: one thousand percent every single one of them has my

568
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: back and they know I've got there.

569
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: I've heard that saying a ton of times.

570
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 3: It's like you can do good times with anyone, but

571
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: it's like, who can you do those bad times with?

572
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: For sure? For sure?

573
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: Well, so are you traveling around the country for that?

574
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,239
Speaker 3: I almost called it an experiment. I feel like of

575
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: sorts it was, But were you traveling around the country

576
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: in an RV?

577
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: For which for fifty.

578
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: Oh for fifty Yeah, every day was Yeah. We were

579
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: in an RV. So the you know, we had to

580
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: get to the next state, and so the wingman we

581
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: called them. There were the two guys on our team.

582
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: They would drive throughout the night while I was trying

583
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: to get any sleep if I could, and get my

584
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: body and therapy worked on and get food in me.

585
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: But the entire team was exhausted because it was a

586
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: moving caravan. We had multiple vehicles to move, we had team,

587
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: we had equipment, we had everything. I mean, it was

588
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: we still had to do a full distance try every

589
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: single day, and that takes a lot of effort and

590
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: a lot of moving pieces. It took a lot of

591
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: volunteers across the country and every state that helped us.

592
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: With the area that we were in. It was a

593
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: lot of fun to see the country just kind of

594
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: come together for one cause. Both when we did the

595
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: fifty and the hundred, I mean the community that came

596
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: out and we on the hundred, we raised you know,

597
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: over two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for Operation Underground Railroad,

598
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: which is trying to solve the problem save humans from

599
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: current day slavery and sex trafficking. Yeah, and so we

600
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: always attach a charitable component to what we're doing, which

601
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: makes it even more meaningful for our family and our

602
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: team to be able to be able to raise those

603
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: funds for those for those causes, because there's truly people

604
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: out there that are suffering that don't know when their

605
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: suffering is going to end, and if we have a

606
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: chance to help and make an impact on that, Like,

607
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: we realize that our lives are incredibly blessed and we

608
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: have an opportunity where we can impact other people's lives,

609
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: and so that's become a driving force for us as well.

610
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: How did you decide on that particular charity for the

611
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: hundred because I know previously you had worked with others

612
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: in the past.

613
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. We kind of pick a different theme for each

614
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 1: one of the big campaigns that we do, and it

615
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: all hinges around where we are at that time in

616
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: our lives. And when we did the fifty, we did

617
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: it for childhood obesity and we had really young kids

618
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: and I was involved in the school system, and you

619
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: could see, Okay, this is a problem because when I

620
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: went to school, I could still name today, like the

621
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: two or three overweight kids in my class. Well, now

622
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: it's more than fifty percent of the class that is

623
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: struggling with this, and that's a very big problem. And

624
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: so that was really in our face. And so we

625
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: were like, okay, can we make an impact there? And

626
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: then now that I've got four teenage girls and it's

627
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: a Utah charity that was heading this up and just

628
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: a great cause, and it was just kind of in

629
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: our face, and my wife had a big passion for it,

630
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: and she's like, look, we need to we need to

631
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: do our piece here to try to save these humans.

632
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: And so we just got behind the charity here, did

633
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: a ton of research on them, and was really happy

634
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: with the partnership.

635
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: And you mentioned kind of where the thought process came

636
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: from when it came to concepting the idea of one

637
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: hundred and one hundred, when.

638
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: You first said this out loud?

639
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: Well, was it you that first said this out loud

640
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 3: or was it someone else on your on your team

641
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: akaa in the fam.

642
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: No, it was it was definitely me. You know, they

643
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: they're satisfied, they're they're complete, and you know, fourteenage girls,

644
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: they've got jobs, they've got school, they've got friends, they've

645
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: got dances, they've got both you know, all these things,

646
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: and so that was that was the biggest thing when

647
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 1: we came up with the hundred or I came up

648
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: with one hundred and kind of presented it to the

649
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: family as they were like, Okay, well, I love the

650
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: fact that you want to control the environment and you

651
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: want to do the whole thing here in Utah because

652
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: we can't displace our family at this time in our

653
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: lives for a quarter of a year, especially coming out

654
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: of the pandemic, and there was a lot of confusion

655
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: and everything, and so so really it was the best

656
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: decision for our family because we didn't have to displace

657
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Speaker 1: our kids. They got to do their normal lives and

658
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: be with their friends, but still got to be involved

659
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: at a high level with what I was doing. So

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Speaker 1: it was it was, it was really really great.

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Speaker 3: So talk to me about what the training looks like

662
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Speaker 3: for an undertaking like this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a full time job and it takes a

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Speaker 1: lot of support from sponsors with equipment and product and

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00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: just everything we can to make it work. We're doing

666
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Speaker 1: a lot of damage in our bodies, you know. We're

667
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: training forty plus hours a week, plus the recovery time

668
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: that takes, plus all the therapy that needs to be done.

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Speaker 1: Plus we run a business on the side, and so

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00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot too it. Obviously we do a lot

671
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: of swimming, a lot of biking, a lot of running.

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Speaker 1: But then you've got to train the mental side of stuff.

673
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: You've got to do the therapies. Like I mentioned, we've got

674
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: to do strength training because with this type of project,

675
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 1: you know, if you look at pictures of me, I'm

676
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: not like I carry more weight than your average endurance athlete.

677
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: It's because I know once we start, I'm going to

678
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: wither away and I have to be very durable. So

679
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: we do we do a lot of strength training. Supplements

680
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: become super important. We're releasing a ton of free radicals

681
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: and so antioxid has become a We partnered with a

682
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: company called mito Q and they have a great product

683
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: that really works on the cellular level. And as an athlete,

684
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: those types of things become pivotabal Our bike sponsor, Fazari,

685
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: becomes instrumental in what we're doing, the red light therapy,

686
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: the hyperbaric chambers, all the swim equipment that we need.

687
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it just becomes this huge team and undertaking

688
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: just during the training process. There's three phases, right, there's training,

689
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: there's execution, and then there's post and recovery. And each

690
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: one of those demands a different respect and effort in

691
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: order to get it right. And if you don't get

692
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: any of those right, it's detrimental to one your career,

693
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: your lifestyle, but your health overall.

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Speaker 3: How does someone feel the night before they're going to execute?

695
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Speaker 3: So when you started off, you were going to do

696
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Speaker 3: one hundred, and then you decided to tack on the

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Speaker 3: extra one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't make that decision until like three days before.

699
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: You were like, why not just go? Why not just

700
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Speaker 2: go for the extra.

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Speaker 1: Well, i'll get into that. I'll just quickly cover why

702
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: we did that. But you know, the eve of an

703
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 1: enormous task like that, you are excited because you're about

704
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: to start something cool. You're you're nervous because there's the unknown,

705
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 1: you don't know what it's going to be, But generally

706
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 1: it's overall excitement. You've got adrenaline, you've got the media,

707
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: you know it's this big thing, and you finally get

708
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: to the start of it. And so the start is

709
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: always cool because you've got adrenaline, a ton of support,

710
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: it's the it's the middle part of a quarter of

711
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: a year project that becomes hard because the excitement's worn down.

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Speaker 1: People have either tuned out for a little bit because

713
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Speaker 1: you're in the middle part of it and it's not

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Speaker 1: close enough to the end and you're past the start,

715
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: the exciting start. And so those I call them the

716
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: blue collar worker days in the middle, because it's when

717
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: the work gets done where nobody's really paying attention and watching,

718
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of the most important part because

719
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: you can't get to the finish line without that kind

720
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Speaker 1: of real grinding middle where nobody's watching. And that's kind

721
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: of way it is in life and business and relationships.

722
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Speaker 1: There's always going to be those like blue collar, grind

723
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Speaker 1: them out moments that aren't exciting but are pivotal on

724
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Speaker 1: our journey to get us to where we are. So

725
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Speaker 1: we're going to have those exciting moments, those finish lines,

726
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: those celebrations, those you know, all of that stuff, and

727
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: so those are important days. And then we were we

728
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: were less than a week from finishing the goal successfully

729
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: one hundred and I said to myself, I need to

730
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Speaker 1: do one more. And as a as a speaker, as

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Speaker 1: an author and whatnot. I have a core set of

732
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Speaker 1: values and principles, and and one of them is we

733
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: can always do more, even when we think we're broken,

734
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: even when we're defeated, or even when we've celebrated and

735
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Speaker 1: we've reached the finish line. You have more in you

736
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Speaker 1: even when you think you're broken. And and I really

737
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like it when a mentor a

738
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: coach is not speaking from experience, they haven't done it,

739
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: and they're just telling somebody else's story or collaboration or

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Speaker 1: something right, And so I felt it was really important

741
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: that I had to go out and do one more.

742
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Speaker 1: We'd reached the goal, we'd accomplished it, we had celebrated,

743
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Speaker 1: and I was broken. And I got up the next

744
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: day and I still got on the water, I did

745
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Speaker 1: the two point four mile swim, I got on the bike,

746
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Speaker 1: I did the one hundred and twelve, and then we

747
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Speaker 1: ran another twenty six point two. And sometimes in our lives,

748
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: when you are broken, you defeated, it is dark. Sometimes

749
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: you have to get up and do one more on

750
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Speaker 1: your own because you are in the middle of that journey.

751
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Speaker 1: And so I just really wanted to set the best

752
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Speaker 1: example I wanted to lead from the front that said

753
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Speaker 1: I am broken, and I am going to get up,

754
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: and I don't want to, but I'm going to get up,

755
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Speaker 1: and I'm going to do one more today.

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Speaker 3: Taking a break from today's episode to give some love

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Speaker 3: I had been feeling a little sluggish a few months

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Speaker 3: back during my runs, and I knew that it was

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Speaker 3: a little bit more than just like the typical oh

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Speaker 3: my god, it's so hot out here, what am I

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Speaker 3: with me and my body, which happened to be a

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Speaker 3: little bit low iron actually, and then I just in

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Speaker 3: R dot com slash hurdle. I listened to a podcast

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Speaker 3: episode that you did where you talked about how as

791
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Speaker 3: the time went on, some of the execution wasn't exactly

792
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Speaker 3: how you had hoped it to be.

793
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: Talk to me a little bit about that.

794
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, this project, because of the duration of it and

795
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: because of the amount of volume we were doing physically

796
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: naturally injury crept in and it becomes very difficult in

797
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: that moment's to perform at a high level when you're

798
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: dealing with an injury, you're trying to manage that, you're

799
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: trying to heal yourself while doing physical activity because the

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00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: goal is one hundred, right, that's the expectation. That's what

801
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: you've come out and said. You've got people around the

802
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: world watching you, thousands at a time tuning in, and

803
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: you're known as a person who sets a goal, accomplishes it,

804
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: and doesn't quit. And so in those moments when we're

805
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: dealing with injury and we're trying to figure out how

806
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: to continue, it becomes very difficult because you know you're

807
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: not performing at the level that you are capable of,

808
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: but you're currently dealing with some limitters that aren't allowing

809
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: you to do it. And we have to you know,

810
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: we have to show patience and we have to you know,

811
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: give it time. All the same time, you have to

812
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: still get out there and do and so it's a

813
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: really interest seeing time in the campaign when we were

814
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Speaker 1: dealing with some of the peak times of injury that

815
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Speaker 1: we had to execute patients, we had to slow down

816
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: and see the big picture and do what we could

817
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: as a team in order to get me to the

818
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: other side of those injuries so that we could continue

819
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: because we wanted to have an impact, We wanted to

820
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: raise money for the charity, and all of that stops

821
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Speaker 1: if I'm sidelined or I have to quit.

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Speaker 2: Two things.

823
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Speaker 3: One, I think many would argue that even if you

824
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: made it, and I know from our brief time together

825
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Speaker 3: that there's no way that you really were going to

826
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 3: decisively quit unless you were physically removed.

827
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Speaker 2: But even if you were to.

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Speaker 3: Make it to fifty five sixty seventy five, that the

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Speaker 3: good that you were doing was exemplary and you know,

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Speaker 3: better than no good at all.

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Speaker 2: So I'll just say that.

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Speaker 3: But what I will follow that up with is the

833
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Speaker 3: sentiment that for you, as these modifications so to speak,

834
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Speaker 3: had to start creeping in, where were you mentally? That's

835
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Speaker 3: my question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, First, I'll say this, we achieved our fundraising goal

837
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Speaker 1: by by fifty by halfway.

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00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 2: Love to hear it.

839
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: And then every single day you're breaking a new world record.

840
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: And so we had a really intense bad bike crash

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Speaker 1: on day fifty nine, and nobody would have faulted me

842
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: for not showing up on day sixty because it was

843
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: a violent crash. We'd broken the world record, we had

844
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Speaker 1: exceeded our fundraising goals. But to me personally, I said

845
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Speaker 1: I was going to do fifty and so in my mind,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I am physically capable, but it's gonna hurt,

847
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be uncomfortable. I'm physically capable of getting in

848
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: the water and going through the next couple of weeks

849
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Speaker 1: which is going to be a recovery process from this crash.

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Speaker 1: But I know I can do this, and I would

851
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Speaker 1: hate myself if I quit in this moment, knowing I'm

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00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: still capable. It's just going to be painful and uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: And it was easy for me because once in big

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00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: projects I do, I go all in to me. That's

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Speaker 1: what it is. You make a committment, you go and

856
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: you sometimes you have to make adjustments and it's it's

857
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: not the way you want it to but it is

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Speaker 1: still moving the project forward and and and that's the

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Speaker 1: big goal. But mentally it's hard, and I would always

860
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: say to myself, Okay, I'm in pain, I'm uncomfortable, I

861
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: don't want to do this anymore. But is the next

862
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: step going to kill me? And if the answer came

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Speaker 1: back as no, then I would have I would keep moving.

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Speaker 1: And so mentally, I just had to ask myself one question,

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Speaker 1: is the next step going to kill me? Is the

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00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: next pedal stroke going to kill me? Vannswer was no.

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Speaker 1: Then I had no other choice because there was no

868
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: other good excuse to quit other than death right, because

869
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Speaker 1: because if I die, I remove myself from my family.

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Speaker 1: I can no longer provide they lose their father. That's

871
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Speaker 1: not a good scenario, my wife's husband. That's not what

872
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: anybody wanted. And it never got to that point, and

873
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: so the question was always is it going to kill me?

874
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: Answer is now, okay, I'll keep moving.

875
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 2: I'll keep moving.

876
00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 3: So as the again, the modification modifications creep in, and

877
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 3: I know at different times you had to maybe like

878
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 3: split it up a little bit more than you would

879
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: have liked. So talk to me about were you the

880
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: person that was making the calls as to how you

881
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 3: would change the execution or was that a bigger conversation

882
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 3: with your team. I know you went from running to

883
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: incorporating some more walking in those marathon distances as well.

884
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: It was always big picture and the team and I

885
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: have been doing this for a long time, and they

886
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: know that I get exhausted. I sometimes aren't am not

887
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: thinking clearly because it's a physical endeavor. Your mind starts

888
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: to go once you do hit exhaustion. And I have

889
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: given full trust to my team and mostly my wife

890
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: to where she will make decisions for me. And I've

891
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: learned that I have to trust those and will battle

892
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: and we'll fight on some of those decisions, and ultimately

893
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: I'll move over and get in line with what's happening

894
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: because it sometimes takes me longer than I want to

895
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: or that she wants me to. But ultimately she's in

896
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: a better space to make those decisions because once she

897
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: knows me really well. And two in these challenges, I'm

898
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: so physically beaten down. We're both exhausted, but she is

899
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: less exhausted and can make probably better decisions than I

900
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: can in those moments. And so it becomes this really

901
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: important pivotal game of trust, and we have full trust

902
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: as a team, and we make those decisions as a team.

903
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: As the days go on, there are different components of

904
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 3: each day where different individuals are kind of taking part

905
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 3: with you. Talk to me a little bit about how

906
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 3: that experience was The fact that not only were you

907
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 3: supported by these individuals, but people were traveling from far

908
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 3: and wide to be a part of this unbelievable mission

909
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: of yours.

910
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that was one of the coolest

911
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: unexpected pieces of this was when the community just really

912
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: came out. I was prepared to do the hundred with

913
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: just myself, my small team and go out there and

914
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: execute and then have some stories to tell, and it

915
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: was just always amazing for us to see one of

916
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: the local community that came out. But every single day

917
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: during parts of the run of the ride, we'd get

918
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: you know, oh, so and so is from Alaska, so

919
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: and so it's from Pennsylvania, so and so is from

920
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 1: New York. And every single day we'd have people from

921
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: all over the country come in and sometimes out of

922
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: the country as well. And pandemic made it hard for

923
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: people to travel, but on the social media we had

924
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: people joining us virtually from around the world, and we've

925
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: we've had merchandise and books orders from Poland and Iceland

926
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: and just every time of this really bizarre country comes

927
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: in for an order. We kind of talk about as

928
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: a family and the impact in the reach that that

929
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: the journey we've been on us have and that's the

930
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: biggest humbling thing is is we just try to set

931
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: the best example we can, and in turn, it's giving

932
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: other people hope on their journey, which is which is

933
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: why we continue to do what we do, which is

934
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: why we speak around the world, which is why we

935
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: film things, which is why we post content, which is

936
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: why we write and all these things. Is because it's

937
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: truly giving people hope in their lives and the struggles

938
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: that they're having.

939
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 3: I know at one point you thought that the best

940
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 3: example that you could provide was kind of from an

941
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 3: athletics standpoint, just performing at your top level constantly. Talk

942
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: to me about the humbling experience that it was for

943
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 3: you to learn that in order to exceed your own

944
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 3: expectations and to succeed in your journey, that you would

945
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 3: have to kind of dial that down a little bit

946
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: to move forward and progress.

947
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, as an athlete and as someone who has expectations

948
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: for greatness, you always want to be performing at a

949
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: high level. And with the injuries that crept in and

950
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, circumstances that I had to slow down because

951
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: we had that, you know, again, you've got to complete

952
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: It's probably just my opinion, But nobody cares if you

953
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: do sixty when you say you're going to do one hundred,

954
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: nobody cares if you do seventy five, if you say

955
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: you're going to do a hundred, and so in order

956
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: to do the hundred and do what you say you're

957
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: going to do, sometimes you have to do that back

958
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: because you can't give one hundred percent all the time.

959
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: And with the injuries that came in, it became a

960
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: huge blessing because I did have to walk on portions

961
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: of the marathon, and it allowed people that wouldn't have

962
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: been able to join me join me. And we heard

963
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: it every single day, I'm so grateful you're walking, because

964
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: if you weren't, I wouldn't be able to join you.

965
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: I'm not at that level. And so my injury and

966
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: my pain and my discomfort became a blessing for other

967
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: people that wanted to join us that wouldn't have been

968
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: able to And so it kind of changed the dynamic

969
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: of the journey and became a very special piece of it.

970
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 3: I got a lot of individuals reach out, you know,

971
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 3: via email, via DM asking you for advice on that

972
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: first step on I might not be in the place

973
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: to ever think that I'm going to do a triathon.

974
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 2: But how do I just start moving? What do you

975
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: tell them?

976
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just start, because nobody starts a journey as

977
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: the expert, and I didn't on the journ that I

978
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: was on. I have a hilarious picture that I that

979
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: I share in my very first triathlon where I'm literally

980
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 1: hanging on the edge of the pool, gasping for air,

981
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: wearing a nose plug, with fear in my face. And

982
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: I promise you nobody would have looked at that guy

983
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: and said, oh, that guy is going to go on

984
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 1: and set you know, sports and Durrance history. But that's

985
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: the reality is we all have a starting point in

986
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 1: our journey, and if we wait till we're an expert

987
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: to start, we're never going to start because you can't

988
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: become an expert without any knowledge and experience. And so

989
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: my biggest advice to people is wherever you are right now,

990
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: it's okay, and that's just where you are, and to

991
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: be honest with you, it's your fault wherever you are

992
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: right and we all have to come to grip some

993
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: realization that this is our battle and we get to

994
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: choose and fight every single day, And that's the whole

995
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: point is just choose to start and you will gain knowledge.

996
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: And start slow, start easy, don't go from zero to

997
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: one hundred. Because success breeds success and confidence breeds confidence,

998
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: and that's the only way to build momentum. And if

999
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: you continually set these monster gidentic goals with no experience,

1000
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: you're going to fail immediately, and then you start to

1001
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: label yourselves and believe that you're a failure, and that's

1002
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: not true. Everybody's a successful winner. You just have to

1003
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 1: put yourself in a position to be the successful winner.

1004
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: And so set yourself up with small, manageable, attainable goals

1005
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: and start to get that momentum going. But just start.

1006
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 3: It's got to be interesting for you now dealing with

1007
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 3: the bouts of depression, struggling through trying to figure out,

1008
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 3: like exactly specifically, like where am I going from here?

1009
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 3: Because you have the tools right Like I'm sitting here

1010
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 3: and I'm listening to you and I'm hearing all this

1011
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 3: stuff that so many people can't even tell themselves that

1012
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 3: they can't get to where you are. They're working to

1013
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 3: get to where they are, and they need people like

1014
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: you to help them get there. But when you're the

1015
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 3: person that you know, you know, but you're just struggling

1016
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 3: to get over that hurdle, where do you look to,

1017
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 3: aside from getting outside and getting on your bike and

1018
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: leaning to activity for the resources and the help that

1019
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 3: you need so that you can try to figure out

1020
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 3: that next step.

1021
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think for me, it's important that I have

1022
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: my family here, my wife, my five kids. I think

1023
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: the pandemic slowing everything down is a positive in my

1024
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: life personally because it does give me an opportunity to

1025
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: have family time and put my focus and attention on them,

1026
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: which brings joy to me. I mean last night we

1027
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: played cards for two hours and then went out on

1028
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: a walk, all of which costs. It has no money,

1029
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: but it was great for my mind and my soul

1030
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: to be able to do that. And so I just

1031
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: think it's important that if you can't you do that,

1032
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: just always search for positive uplifting. I mean, the Internet

1033
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: is so unbelievable, and I know social media takes a

1034
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: hard wrap, but there's a lot of good, fun, positive

1035
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: stuff on there, and we get to choose how we

1036
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: interact with social social media. And my wife, she last

1037
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: all the time, She's like My entire feet is is

1038
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: I'll start with this. My kids set up an Instagram

1039
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: account for our dog, and my wife is like, it's ridiculous,

1040
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: don't start an account for the dog. And then she

1041
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: follows a ton of dog accounts because it's what makes

1042
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: her happy, and cows make her happy, and so she

1043
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: follows all of these animal accounts, and so I just think,

1044
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: you know, social media does get a bad rep, but

1045
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of positivity, a lot of light, and

1046
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: we just have to intentionally go seek out that positivity

1047
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: to get our minds right.

1048
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: Talk me through the final day one oh one.

1049
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the public SYE one hundred was the final day,

1050
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: and it was chaos. I mean, thousands of people, a

1051
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: lot of noise, a lot of distraction, a lot of chaos,

1052
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: a lot of nerve nervousness for me, you know, hundreds

1053
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 1: of people come out on the bike that we've never

1054
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: biked with before, and there's a peloton and crashes are

1055
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: happening and you're just like, I have to keep my

1056
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 1: wheels on the ground and where's my team to protect

1057
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: me and all these things, and then you finish and

1058
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: it's like this massive sigh of relief. Because you accomplish

1059
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: something that's over and then in our minds and our team,

1060
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: nobody knows, but we're doing it again tomorrow and we

1061
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: have to do the celebration. But we got to quickly

1062
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: get back and regroup for tomorrow. And so it was

1063
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: this kind of like weird day where everybody thought we

1064
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: were done, but we weren't. And we didn't tell anybody

1065
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: about one on one. We just went live on day.

1066
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: The next day, it was just me and the water

1067
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: and it went viral and it was a really cool

1068
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: experience because people were like, okay's he woke up. He's

1069
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 1: going to give us a breakakdown of how he's feeling.

1070
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: And then it was me doing another one. And so

1071
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: you know the difference between one hundred it was chaos,

1072
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: it was thousands of people, it was noise, it was excitement,

1073
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: and then one o one is more me. It was

1074
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: on my terms. It was our smallttle group. Nobody knew

1075
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: we were doing it. We didn't disclose the run location.

1076
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: It was just our core, you know, team and friends

1077
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: who we've been on this journey with for a long time.

1078
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: That's that was a special day for us and how

1079
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: we wanted to end that journey. They were just very

1080
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: different between the two, but it meant a lot for

1081
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: us to do that.

1082
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't even I can't even imagine.

1083
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 3: It makes me question and want to ask during these

1084
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 3: gritty moments over the one hundred and one days, and

1085
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 3: specifically maybe even on this last day, when things just

1086
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 3: feel like you are literally swimming, running, biking through mud,

1087
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Speaker 3: where does your head go? Aside from the am I

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00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 3: going to die with this next stroke? Run step? Where

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00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 3: does your head go? Is the What are you telling

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00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: yourself in these moments?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just the realization that time is on our side

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00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: or against us, depending on how you choose to utilize it.

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00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: And for me, I knew that June eighth was going

1094
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: to come and go, whether I showed up and did

1095
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: what I was doing or not. And once I realized

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00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: that it was going to come and go, because you know,

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00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: when you're in the middle of something that seems so crazy,

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00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: so chaotic, like the fifty right, the fifty days and

1099
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: fifty States was so chaotic, and I kept telling myself,

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00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: July twenty fifth is going to come. Keep showing up,

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00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: keep getting in the water. And then all of a sudden,

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00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: five six years passes and you're like, Okay, time is

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00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: going to keep moving. And so I knew during the

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00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: one hundred. I was like, yes, this is what we're doing.

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00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: Yes we're grinding. Yes I'm in a lot of pain,

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00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: but I know that June eighth is coming. Eventually, It's

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00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: going to get here and we will get through it.

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00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: It's like the saying, this too shall pass, and it's true,

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00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: as long as we stay and put our focus and

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Speaker 1: attention where it needs to be, this too shall pass.

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00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 1: It's when we don't show up and when we take

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Speaker 1: ourselves out of the equation that time is going to

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00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: keep ticking. And now you have become a by standard

1114
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: or spectator to everybody else accomplishing and deciding to show up.

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00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: And so was that was for me one of the

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00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: things that I utilized when I was in those dark

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00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: moments that said, Okay, time is going to pass either way.

1118
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Speaker 1: And it was beautiful because I would have a really,

1119
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: really tough, difficult day and I'd be like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can do that again tomorrow.

1121
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Speaker 1: Like that was so mentally grinding, like I don't know

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00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: if I can do it again tomorrow. And Sonny would

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00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: always say, look, the work's done today. Let's just let

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00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: the team help you. You've done your job. We'll go

1125
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: to bed, we'll wake up tomorrow and face tomorrow with

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00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: whatever it gives us. And so that was kind of

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00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: the pattern. It was like, I've reached my breaking point,

1128
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: but I knew that if I kept moving, I'm eventually

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00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: going to get to the finish line. Sometimes not in

1130
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: the timeframe that I want to, but I'm eventually going

1131
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: to get there. And then once the work is done, reset,

1132
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: take the therapy that you need, process that moment, and

1133
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: then get up and fight another day.

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Speaker 3: Right Like, do the best you can with what you

1135
00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: have in these moments. So right now, someone goes your

1136
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 3: social media page, if we're just talking Instagram, they see

1137
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 3: endurance athlete who has performed in these unbelievable, wonderful ways

1138
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 3: that raised so much money for charity. Father of five,

1139
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 3: devoted husband. When you look in the mirror, what is

1140
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 3: it that you see looking back at you?

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00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: Great question. One, I see a father and a husband,

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00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: and two I see a person that's still striving for

1143
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: the limits. I don't I don't want to sit on

1144
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: my laurels. I want to take I want to celebrate,

1145
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: but I want to take the knowledge and experience that

1146
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: we've had and apply it to other areas of my life.

1147
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: I think I've truly satisfied, and I've said this before,

1148
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: but I'm truly satisfied with with what we've accomplished and

1149
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: how we accomplished it. I think the hundred really showed

1150
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: who we are as a team, what we're capable of,

1151
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: the level at which we can execute, and we removed

1152
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: any doubt or criticism that we'd ever received in the past.

1153
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: And that was important to me to kind of reset

1154
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: history and let people know we are who we said

1155
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: we were. And I think that's very cool. And so

1156
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: for me, I just want to look in the mirror

1157
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, I'm a person that does

1158
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: what I says I'm going to do. I'm a person

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00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: that tries to set the best example I know how

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Speaker 1: for my kids, and I'm a loving, devoted husband to

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Speaker 1: my wife of twenty one years.

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Speaker 2: Have you thought about maybe what the next thing could be?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what. I think I'm going down a

1164
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: road of biohacking the human mind and the body, and

1165
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: I think what's next for me is trying to figure

1166
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: out how to live a high quality of life well

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00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: into my hundreds.

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Speaker 2: Love that. Love to hear that.

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00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 3: Right now, my friend, you have an opportunity to offer yourself.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I've never done this before, but I

1171
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 3: think I'm going to do it here. You're in a

1172
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 3: pretty big life hurtle moment right now. You have done

1173
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 3: something that is so admirable and so wonderful in the process,

1174
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 3: have done so much good through your charitable efforts. But

1175
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 3: as we spoke about the top of this episode, like

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01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 3: you're going through it. So if you were to take

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01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 3: a step outside of yourself right now and give yourself

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01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 3: one piece of advice in this hurdle moment, what is

1179
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 3: it that you think that you really need to hear?

1180
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, just that I've done enough, You're worth it. And

1181
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: just keep showing up consistently in whatever capacity or direction

1182
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: that you take, and You'll just always be enough.

1183
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: You'll always be enough.

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01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for your time today, James, Thanks so much.

1185
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 3: How did the hurdlers keep up with you? How do

1186
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 3: they follow along with you? Give me all your details?

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01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, any thing that we do is on Instagram, Iron Cowboy, James,

1188
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: please follow us there and then any resources and courses

1189
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: and books and all that and merchandises, all on Ironcowboy

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01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: dot com.

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01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: Amazing.

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01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 3: I'm over at emlaybody and at Hurdle Podcast. Another hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.