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Speaker 1: need done, ensuring that our voices are heard, and that
Speaker 1: there's an advocate in one of the highest offices in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Please join me and welcome me your Attorney General, Keith Ellison.
Speaker 1: He's got a receiving line, y'all, he's.
Speaker 2: Coming, Attorney General, Keith Ellison. Ladies and gentlemen, I mean
Speaker 2: I try.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm channeling Angela Davis. That's who I was
Speaker 1: named after. I yield the floor to the Attorney General there.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Angela Hey, thank you guys for being out
Speaker 3: here tonight. I can't think of a more important place
Speaker 3: for you to be. Our country, in our state, in
Speaker 3: our city, in this very moment, has been the site
Speaker 3: of the largest single escalation of ICE agents of immigration
Speaker 3: officials in the history of the United States. Ordinarily, ICE
Speaker 3: has about one hundred people for.
Speaker 4: The five state area, the five state area.
Speaker 3: Now they have four thousand ICE agents for just the
Speaker 3: state of Minnesota, which is an increase. I don't have
Speaker 3: to tell you what's been happening. You live here, you've
Speaker 3: been seeing it, you've been experiencing it yourself.
Speaker 4: But this blanket of.
Speaker 3: Attack is certainly not normal, not justified, and it's not legal.
Speaker 3: So what we have done about Operation Metro Surge, first
Speaker 3: of all, as we filed a lawsuit which was heard yesterday,
Speaker 3: and what we argue was very simple that if the
Speaker 3: federal government cannot bully and take over Minnesota and pass
Speaker 3: laws to make us do what the federal government wants,
Speaker 3: if they can't do it with an executive order or
Speaker 3: with a piece of legislation, they certainly can't do it
Speaker 3: with four thousand armed, masked men. If they couldn't pass
Speaker 3: the law that said all Minnesota law enforcement is now
Speaker 3: an ice agent, which they could not do, they certainly
Speaker 3: can't say, oh, you don't want to do it our way,
Speaker 3: We're going to send people with guns in large numbers
Speaker 3: to your state to intimidate and even kill people. At
Speaker 3: the end of the day, I believe we are going
Speaker 3: to prevail because we're right and what we're doing is just,
Speaker 3: and I am telling you that we're not here to
Speaker 3: back down. And I will also tell you this, there
Speaker 3: is no legal barrier to a state prosecutor.
Speaker 4: Charging a federal agent. You understand there's.
Speaker 3: No legal barrier. I've been a lawyer for thirty six years.
Speaker 3: I'm here to tell you that law and morality are
Speaker 3: not the same thing. That unjust things happen in the
Speaker 3: name of the law. But what I'm telling you is
Speaker 3: that it is not a fact that the federal agents
Speaker 3: can commit crimes in this state and never have to
Speaker 3: worry about accountability. You heard the Vice President of the
Speaker 3: United States tell you absolute immunity. I don't know if
Speaker 3: he's lying or if he just doesn't know the law,
Speaker 3: but he's absolutely wrong. You could pick lying or ignorant,
Speaker 3: but he's wrong either way.
Speaker 4: You can pick either one. But it is not the case.
Speaker 3: And the real challenge, and I'm just gonna be very
Speaker 3: clear with you guys, is the pragmatic reality of completing
Speaker 3: an investigation and then getting a case to a grand
Speaker 3: jury or getting enough probable cause to charge.
Speaker 4: Now, there's a lot of cases.
Speaker 3: That are hard to bring because you do have evidentiary barriers.
Speaker 3: In this situation, there's so much video evidence. There is
Speaker 3: so much video evidence, and look, so the reality of
Speaker 3: the situation is I'm not going to stand Uparia and
Speaker 3: say I'm charging that dude with this, and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you why, because that would be improper.
Speaker 4: Prosecutors shouldn't do that.
Speaker 3: You all will remember when George Floyd was murdered, first
Speaker 3: we got the evidence together, then we charge all four
Speaker 3: of them with murder. H I'm just using that as
Speaker 3: an example to let you know that nobody here should
Speaker 3: feel that these people are just gonna skate on this.
Speaker 4: Okay, you shouldn't feel that way. Now. When when when
Speaker 4: on the first time.
Speaker 3: When they killed uh Renee Good, local police went and said,
Speaker 3: we need to process the crime scene, find evidence, put
Speaker 3: put things down, you know, the little little cards and
Speaker 3: put the numbers down, and make sure that we process
Speaker 3: the scene.
Speaker 4: And the federal agent.
Speaker 3: Said, no, you're not going to be allowed to do that,
Speaker 3: and we're going to take the casings, we're gonna take
Speaker 3: this car, and we're going to take the gun.
Speaker 4: So then it was like, okay, that's different.
Speaker 3: And then they shot a man in North Minneapolis who's
Speaker 3: who survived only right over there some of y'all might
Speaker 3: have been who was there that night in North Minneapolis
Speaker 3: when it was when the chemical irritant was in the
Speaker 3: wear ear like smoke everywhere.
Speaker 4: Good to see you there, Latania.
Speaker 3: And then but and then they said, no, you're not
Speaker 3: going to process that scene. So now on this one,
Speaker 3: we hear about Preddie getting shot. We went to court
Speaker 3: and got a court order and got a judge to
Speaker 3: rule that the evidence may not be destroyed, may not
Speaker 3: be tampers with, and we have to have access with it.
Speaker 4: And the judge issue the order Saturday night.
Speaker 3: We were back in court yesterday arguing it and the
Speaker 3: court is not ruled yet, but we are confident that
Speaker 3: they're not going to be able to mess around with
Speaker 3: this evidence. So what I'm just telling you that that
Speaker 3: whether it's a civil action that we've taken or whether
Speaker 3: it's the criminal cases, we are going to do everything
Speaker 3: we can to make sure there's truth and accountability here. Now,
Speaker 3: let me just tell you this, this situation, this oppression
Speaker 3: that Minnesota is under right now, will not be solved
Speaker 3: in a courtroom. It just won't be Like so after
Speaker 3: the Floyd case, did police brutality stop. No, That's why
Speaker 3: at the time I said, this is not justice, but
Speaker 3: it is accountability. The real justice and the real freedom
Speaker 3: and the real true democracy will be because you go
Speaker 3: out in the street and demonstrate and say no to
Speaker 3: this oppression. It is the people in the street, in
Speaker 3: the hearts and the minds of the people marching in
Speaker 3: nine below weather, standing up and saying no, We're not
Speaker 3: going to let you roll over us this way, which
Speaker 3: is going to win the day, together with elections, together
Speaker 3: with the artists, together with all of these things that
Speaker 3: we collect to try to create a just society.
Speaker 4: And it's not overnight.
Speaker 3: And I cannot guarantee you perfect safety as you fight
Speaker 3: for justice any more than people could guarantee Martin Luther King. Oh,
Speaker 3: nobody's ever going to hurt you if you stand up
Speaker 3: for justice, or nobody's ever gonna hurt you. Nobody's ever
Speaker 3: gonna harm you if you protest.
Speaker 4: Jimmy Lee Jackson, we all know what happened.
Speaker 3: There's no guarantee of perfect safety when an oppress or
Speaker 3: feels threatened that you're trying to be free yourself. So
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, friends, I am asking
Speaker 3: you to protest. I'm asking you to protest peacefully and safely.
Speaker 3: But I would rather you be out there facing those
Speaker 3: bad guys and that is exactly what they are than
Speaker 3: sitting at home worrying about your own comfort and safety
Speaker 3: safely not doing anything. We need people to be We
Speaker 3: need everybody to do whatever they can do. And some people, look,
Speaker 3: they got bad needs, they've got disabilities.
Speaker 4: They can't be out there protested.
Speaker 3: Well, maybe you can make calls and get people to
Speaker 3: the election that's coming up. Maybe you can do mutual
Speaker 3: aid for people who are shut up in their homes
Speaker 3: and can't even go to work because they're scared to
Speaker 3: isations going to stop them. But at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, all of us have to do something in
Speaker 3: this movement that we're in, and you being here tonight
Speaker 3: is doing something, is doing.
Speaker 4: Something important, because let me tell.
Speaker 3: You, presence is Presence is power, friends, witnesses power. And
Speaker 3: let me tell you the bad ones out there who
Speaker 3: are trying to press all of us, they know very
Speaker 3: well that you're having a meeting here tonight at the Capri.
Speaker 4: You think they don't know.
Speaker 3: If they knew, if they were spying on you in
Speaker 3: the sixties. You think they're not spying you on you
Speaker 3: in the twenty twenties.
Speaker 5: Of course they are, But screw them.
Speaker 4: We're not scared of them.
Speaker 3: And I don't care if mister Miss Christinoan knows that
Speaker 3: I'm here working with you guys.
Speaker 4: And you should not. And if you're scared that she's
Speaker 4: going to know about you, be they or you in
Speaker 4: the wrong place. This is this movement.
Speaker 3: We are guarantee success because we are faithful. We are
Speaker 3: guarantee success because we are faithful, and we won't quit
Speaker 3: and we won't ever give up. Now, a last word
Speaker 3: that I want to say to you, And I don't
Speaker 3: know if Angela wants me to answer any questions or not,
Speaker 3: but there is one word I want to say to
Speaker 3: you before I rap. I want to urge you and
Speaker 3: talk to you about the fundamental importance of human solidarity
Speaker 3: in this moment, because so often we're oppressed based on
Speaker 3: our identity and as African Americans. You and I know
Speaker 3: two hundred and forty six years of slavery, one hundred
Speaker 3: years of Jim Crow, and disparities in race every single
Speaker 3: year after that, there's never been a moment where black
Speaker 3: life in America has been celebrated in official channels. The
Speaker 3: one time somebody black becomes president, it scares this country
Speaker 3: so bad that it brings on Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: So you and I both know the deal here. But
Speaker 4: what I'm saying to you.
Speaker 3: Is, as a child who's as a child of African descent,
Speaker 3: as a black man in America, who can trace my
Speaker 3: roots in America since seventeen forty two, I can.
Speaker 4: These folks can't tell me I don't I'm not from here.
Speaker 3: And no black person in this room whose ancestors came
Speaker 3: here and slavery can be told you're not from here.
Speaker 3: But did you know that you were not a citizen
Speaker 3: up until the fourteenth Amendment?
Speaker 4: Did you know that?
Speaker 3: Did you know that the Supreme Court justice in the
Speaker 3: United States, the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court,
Speaker 3: said black people who were born, lived their whole lives,
Speaker 3: and died in this country for seven generations up until
Speaker 3: the about eighteen fifties were not citizens. So this thing
Speaker 3: about citizen his own always been racially informed. Did you
Speaker 3: know that the first statutes on immigration to this country
Speaker 3: said only free white people could come here. It wasn't
Speaker 3: until nineteen sixty five that Asian, Latin American, and African
Speaker 3: people could immigrate to the United States. Immigration was a
Speaker 3: civil rights bill, just like the Voting Rights Act was.
Speaker 4: And so I'm gonna send me over here like a
Speaker 4: sign man.
Speaker 5: He just said, might drop.
Speaker 1: Okay, y'all give it up again for Attorney General Keith Dallison.
Speaker 5: He walked all the way out. We love him.
Speaker 1: We're so grateful for his passion, first commitment, for being
Speaker 1: here with us this evening again on such short notice.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Attorney General Keith Ellison. I'm bringing
Speaker 1: out my co host Andrew gillim Bacari Sellers. We have
Speaker 1: a quick pianel with some clergy folk who are doing
Speaker 1: tremendous work.
Speaker 5: Who cares about truth when the last more.
Speaker 4: Than saying it.
Speaker 1: As you all know, there was a big organizing effort
Speaker 1: with clergy at the airport just last week. It is
Speaker 1: important that folks are raising their voices because we know
Speaker 1: there's a whole other one that has a whole church.
Speaker 1: But he's also working with ice, but we'll talk about
Speaker 1: that another time. Please welcome to the stage Reverend doctor
Speaker 1: Kiaren McKinney, Professor and Community Liaison at Betha University, Minister
Speaker 1: Janeyamuri be Betsamurray Believe, Co Executive Director of Faith in Minnesota,
Speaker 1: and Isaiah and our good sister when Tana Mellikin Executive
Speaker 1: director of Groundwork Action co hosts.
Speaker 5: You're coming back out.
Speaker 1: We're gonna ask some quick questions and I know we're
Speaker 1: getting the calls to action. So the hour is late
Speaker 1: and we got to work. I don't know where when
Speaker 1: Tana is, but she will join us soon hopefully. All Right, Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, ladies, can you talk about the importance
Speaker 1: of motivating and moving clergy to act at a time
Speaker 1: like this. I think about the letter from the Birmingham
Speaker 1: jail and what doctor King was challenging us with.
Speaker 5: Come I Andrew challenging.
Speaker 1: Us with, and it feels like this moment is yet
Speaker 1: again a choice between white nationalists, Christianity and black liberation
Speaker 1: theology and then somewhere in between everybody else when Tana,
Speaker 1: everybody give it up for when Tana we introduced one
Speaker 1: Tina Mother King. Yes, but I want you to weigh
Speaker 1: in on that Janay, and then I'll yield to you.
Speaker 5: I mean absolutely.
Speaker 6: The reality is that we are we are going to
Speaker 6: constantly recreate history and we get to beat the ciders
Speaker 6: on if we're going to be history makers in the
Speaker 6: midst of it. And so I would say it is
Speaker 6: not just about frankly agitating the Church, but it is
Speaker 6: about agitating America that proclaims and professes to be the Church.
Speaker 6: And so when you are living in a place in
Speaker 6: the land that weaponizes my Jesus and my Bible, I
Speaker 6: am I find it incredibly important that people who say
Speaker 6: that they know God, say that they know Christ, actually
Speaker 6: live that out and call other folks into it. And
Speaker 6: so the action that we took on Friday, on the
Speaker 6: Day of Truth and Freedom, even the fact that that
Speaker 6: I think it's important to say, even the fact that
Speaker 6: day came into being was because of a bunch of
Speaker 6: people of faith and union leaders and community members who
Speaker 6: said that we are going to take ourselves seriously enough
Speaker 6: to build the kind of power to orchestrate the kind
Speaker 6: of organizing necessary to have something like that. Because the
Speaker 6: reality is that people can call for an economic blackout
Speaker 6: or a general strike and like say that thing. But
Speaker 6: then you got to look back to what happened in Montgomery,
Speaker 6: Alabama in nineteen fifty five. When folks in a church
Speaker 6: said we're going to have the Montgomery bus boycott. It
Speaker 6: was not just oh, let's do this thing and we're
Speaker 6: going to say it and it'll happen. They put in
Speaker 6: the ground game to have three hundred and eighty one
Speaker 6: days of people being able to get to work, to
Speaker 6: be able to get their kids, to be able to
Speaker 6: go to groceries and not take the bus, and so
Speaker 6: with a man and so I do think that people
Speaker 6: of faith have to make sure that we are truly
Speaker 6: taking ourselves seriously enough to strategize what does it mean
Speaker 6: to do something today, what is it going to mean
Speaker 6: for us tomorrow, what is it going to look like
Speaker 6: for our people to day after that, and actually put
Speaker 6: in the real grit in organizing that's required to make
Speaker 6: that kind of thing come to be.
Speaker 7: I had a shirt that said, Jesus is not just
Speaker 7: a Sunday thing because a lot of times we don't
Speaker 7: ascribe to the notion that they teach us in the
Speaker 7: Book of James that says that faith without works is dead.
Speaker 7: Because sometimes we become a very praying people, our knees
Speaker 7: get sore, we put holes in the carpet and forget
Speaker 7: that we have to put our shoulder to the wheel
Speaker 7: on Monday to go out and get out the ditch.
Speaker 7: My question is about the disconnect that the church has
Speaker 7: perceived with this new generation that's coming up and how
Speaker 7: we as believers of whatever can bridge that gap because
Speaker 7: we need them in our doors. The church used to
Speaker 7: be Andrew and I we were having this discussion and
Speaker 7: Angela as well last week on the show, but we
Speaker 7: all agreed that the church used to be that, and
Speaker 7: our stress used to be the epicenter of change. That's
Speaker 7: where we had our organizational meetings, that's where we had
Speaker 7: our precinct meetings. That's where we fed the hungary in
Speaker 7: our communities. I mean, this event in nineteen sixty five
Speaker 7: would have been in somebody Baptist church in Minneapolis. Doors,
Speaker 7: open bus is going to get folks bringing them here
Speaker 7: church moms. I mean, so, how do we get back
Speaker 7: to that or evolve to the next iteration of that
Speaker 7: while also opening our arms to a generation that feels
Speaker 7: is that the church is not their home anymore. And
Speaker 7: for me, that's that's almost devastating.
Speaker 8: McKinney, that's a hard one, see because and maybe it's
Speaker 8: because I'm older, and that disconnect, I see, it's there.
Speaker 8: I have ninety four nieces and nephews, ninety four nieces
Speaker 8: and nephews and grand nieces and great grands and so
Speaker 8: when I started doing this, I started calling up my
Speaker 8: nieces and nephews and saying, come come with me.
Speaker 9: You have to care. You don't have a choice. And
Speaker 9: it's like, oh, that's a Karen reverend and Karen. But
Speaker 9: some of them listen.
Speaker 8: So I think there's a disconnect, but there's also you know,
Speaker 8: they see what's going on and they care. And so
Speaker 8: when I said come to this training, you know, some
Speaker 8: of four of them showed up and came to the
Speaker 8: training and and it's like.
Speaker 9: You have you have to be out there with me.
Speaker 8: So so I think they're seeing and I'm not sure
Speaker 8: that that. I mean, I know there's a disconnect, but
Speaker 8: in my church, we have a rebirth of young people
Speaker 8: because I remember the days when you know, I'm standing
Speaker 8: and I'm shaking hands and standing by the door and
Speaker 8: there's not too many young people.
Speaker 9: But then I counted seven babies. I said, seven people
Speaker 9: with seven babies.
Speaker 8: Walk by, you know, and it's like, we're getting people,
Speaker 8: and so they want they people are hungry for it.
Speaker 8: And in my church, which is Fellowship Missionary Baptist Church,
Speaker 8: we we we are unashamedly black, yes, and we're proud
Speaker 8: to be a black church and own that even if
Speaker 8: all of our members are.
Speaker 9: Not, and so we want that that black history.
Speaker 8: We profess that, we say that we are proud of that,
Speaker 8: and we call forth people to be active and not
Speaker 8: sit back. And so you know, I was designated in
Speaker 8: my church to be when we started this Black Core
Speaker 8: Leadership Team, We're going to be one of these churches
Speaker 8: that is involved in Isaiah and faith in Minnesota. The
Speaker 8: pastor said, you take the lead on that. So I
Speaker 8: took the lead on that. And I was with those
Speaker 8: people who got arrested on Friday because I'm taking the
Speaker 8: lead on that, and that's the expectation. And there's all
Speaker 8: kinds of people from my churches and all the other
Speaker 8: churches that they put in and they say yes. And
Speaker 8: I left this meeting, left a meeting where people were saying,
Speaker 8: we're going to Caucus and are you committed to caucusing
Speaker 8: and are you committed to bringing ten more people with
Speaker 8: you to Caucus on February third, And people were saying, yes,
Speaker 8: I'm committed to this for the long run, and I'm
Speaker 8: going to ask my people.
Speaker 9: So we're still we're still doing it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 4: Give her a round of applause for that. I mean
Speaker 4: and I am.
Speaker 7: I mean, my last comment on this is that I am.
Speaker 7: I am absolutely unapologetic about the onus that I put
Speaker 7: on the Black Church. And the reason being is because
Speaker 7: I feel like as a community, and this may be
Speaker 7: right or wrong, but I'll probably die with this. We
Speaker 7: don't survive, but we thrive if our church is the
Speaker 7: foundation of our community, not just our faith.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with you speaking of the foundation
Speaker 1: of our community. Sit next to someone who created the
Speaker 1: Groundwork Institute, And I want to just take a moment
Speaker 1: here because without Antana, protests and general strikes in all
Speaker 1: of that, the rally last week would not have happened
Speaker 1: last Friday.
Speaker 10: And so let's please give it up.
Speaker 1: For Auntana and all the work she's doing. And I
Speaker 1: also just want to acknowledge the human cost of the
Speaker 1: work she is battling to make sure that her loved
Speaker 1: ones are safe in the midst of putting her body
Speaker 1: on the line for all of us. And so I
Speaker 1: want you for a moment to talk about the fact
Speaker 1: when I'm acknowledging you give all of you to this community.
Speaker 1: I want to know and this is probably going to
Speaker 1: be very hard because you're a black woman in America,
Speaker 1: but I want to know what this room can give
Speaker 1: back to you.
Speaker 11: First, I just want to say thank you for having me.
Speaker 11: And I also want to say the only reason I
Speaker 11: was a part of the march in the rally last
Speaker 11: week is because Janey propositioned me to show up and
Speaker 11: take that role. Janey was the person that really was
Speaker 11: the foundation of it and called me into her team.
Speaker 11: They actually just voted me in on Monday as a
Speaker 11: physical member, and so I just want to acknowledge all
Speaker 11: the work she did.
Speaker 10: So thank you.
Speaker 12: So.
Speaker 11: As angel shared, I am an air trained American, I'm
Speaker 11: a US citizen, but I also am struggling with immigration
Speaker 11: issues across my family. I mean, just yesterday, when coordinating
Speaker 11: with Angela around this, I had a family member picked
Speaker 11: up and now they're in New Mexico and we're trying
Speaker 11: to figure out what to do about it. Lately, in Minnesota,
Speaker 11: most folks have been getting sent to Texas and how they're.
Speaker 10: Wet folks going to a new state.
Speaker 11: As y'all know, about three thousand folks have been picked
Speaker 11: up over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 10: They have been sent all over the country.
Speaker 11: I have family members who are US citizens, I've had
Speaker 11: family members with green cards. I have folks with more
Speaker 11: complex statuses who have been picked up by ICE.
Speaker 10: There is no strategy, no theory.
Speaker 11: They are just picking up our community members and making
Speaker 11: them disappear. And at the same time, the other part
Speaker 11: of this battle is that I'm an executive director of
Speaker 11: not one but two institutions, Groundwork Institute and Groundwork Action,
Speaker 11: where I got to get up every day and do
Speaker 11: the political organizing and do the development and the training
Speaker 11: and all that at the same time, you know, having
Speaker 11: to figure out what ally can I send a whipple
Speaker 11: to pick up my cousin because I can't go back
Speaker 11: there again after you know, being there just a weeks
Speaker 11: before that picking a different family member. And so I
Speaker 11: asked for everyone in this community is to continue with
Speaker 11: the demands ICE out of Minnesota. Absolutely, I need you
Speaker 11: to contact your member of Congress and make those demands,
Speaker 11: your state rep, your city council member, every single level
Speaker 11: of government. The other thing I'll add is that last
Speaker 11: Friday during the march, I sat at my computer and
Speaker 11: I deleted my Netflix. I deleted every Postmates, all the
Speaker 11: little services I had, I canceled them. The only place
Speaker 11: I've been shopping at is my co op, Like folks
Speaker 11: that I know have already taken a political position to
Speaker 11: say we stand with immigrants, we don't stand with ice.
Speaker 10: And I have just been.
Speaker 11: Unapologetic about rethinking about the way I spend money, the
Speaker 11: way I move, and I encourage everybody else in this
Speaker 11: room to do that. And I just think one other
Speaker 11: thing I got a name that I think can't be
Speaker 11: forgotten about this moment is that I am very clear
Speaker 11: that the only reason I have the right to be
Speaker 11: in the United States is the work of black Americans.
Speaker 11: Is very clear that after passing the Civil Rights Act,
Speaker 11: and after the passing of Voting Rights Act, the Immigration
Speaker 11: Act was passed, after that, the work of Martin Luther
Speaker 11: King to open the door and all the others to
Speaker 11: open the door to allow immigrants into the United States.
Speaker 11: And so I very clearly see, after all the organizing
Speaker 11: I did for Jamar Clark and PHILANDEO Castile, I have
Speaker 11: very overwhelmingly seen the Black American community step up in
Speaker 11: this moment and stand in solidarity. And I'd be remiss
Speaker 11: if I didn't name that. And so I don't know
Speaker 11: what more to ask for. I have seen folks really
Speaker 11: step up in this moment, and I just encourage folks
Speaker 11: to continue to do it with their political power, their message,
Speaker 11: and their money.
Speaker 7: So I guess before we do our all actions out there,
Speaker 7: any final I mean, I'm a big I'm the person
Speaker 7: who's crying on the airplane. I have my hoodie own
Speaker 7: and they'd be like, why is he tearing up? Because
Speaker 7: it's a Marven Sap plan in my ear. So I'm
Speaker 7: that emotional guy who's crying. If any parting words for
Speaker 7: this audience, as we begin to bring this to a
Speaker 7: close of faith, the strength that we have, what we
Speaker 7: need to do to persevere to get through this dark time.
Speaker 7: You can preach a little bit, just a little bit.
Speaker 7: You're not that Baptist stuff.
Speaker 4: Love it.
Speaker 8: I would just I guess I would say God chooses
Speaker 8: no hands but our hands. God uses no hands but
Speaker 8: our hands and feet and and and so we have
Speaker 8: to choose. We have to choose to let God use
Speaker 8: our hands and feet. And we have to choose it
Speaker 8: every day. It's not a one time choice. You're not done,
Speaker 8: you know, and tomorrow I get to just lay in. No,
Speaker 8: we have to we have to choose it every day,
Speaker 8: and it matters for the generations that come behind us.
Speaker 8: What what kind of kids? What are what are our
Speaker 8: kids going to have? You know, if we keep going backwards,
Speaker 8: so we have to pick uh and we if we
Speaker 8: can't let go?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, that's whatever.
Speaker 13: Is said, man.
Speaker 6: I mean I would just lean, have us all lean
Speaker 6: into the story of the Good Samaritan, the notion that
Speaker 6: there is there when anytime there is someone who is hurting,
Speaker 6: someone who has beaten, someone who has oppressed, someone who
Speaker 6: is downtrotten, for whatever reason, we.
Speaker 9: Are called to do and to act.
Speaker 6: And there were folks who walked past that body and thought,
Speaker 6: I can't I can't do anything about that because if
Speaker 6: I do, what happens to me? And the one who
Speaker 6: decided to stop said I if I keep going, what
Speaker 6: happens to them? And I think there is a collective
Speaker 6: what happens to us if we don't act? And so
Speaker 6: is that is the call? And for the Minnesotans. I
Speaker 6: can't end this without saying for the Minnesotans who are
Speaker 6: in the room, especially black Minnesotans.
Speaker 5: February third is Caucus day.
Speaker 14: Okay, we we could talk all day and like those
Speaker 14: settings like this, but it is so incredible important that
Speaker 14: we use our voice and having oversize an outside stay
Speaker 14: about what happens.
Speaker 5: In our state and in our country.
Speaker 6: And you get the opportunity to do that when you caucus,
Speaker 6: and when we caucus together in unity.
Speaker 5: A man, Okay, I go to a.
Speaker 10: Catholic church, so I can't sermon like that. It's not
Speaker 10: in me.
Speaker 11: I'll try my best, So I just I'd be remiss
Speaker 11: if I didn't talk about what happened. About an hour
Speaker 11: before I walked in this room, a congersoman Omar at
Speaker 11: her town hall was standing there talking about how we
Speaker 11: need to hold the federal government accountable. And a man
Speaker 11: walked up to her with a substance and spread.
Speaker 9: Her in the face.
Speaker 11: And you know, I have to also talk about how
Speaker 11: commersoone orders won.
Speaker 10: She swung back, She literally swung back.
Speaker 11: She approached him and then cleaned herself up and then
Speaker 11: continued the forum, continue the conversation.
Speaker 10: She put out a statement and said, we have to
Speaker 10: keep going.
Speaker 11: We have to keep fighting, and this is very difficult,
Speaker 11: this is absolutely horrific, but also we have to keep going.
Speaker 10: We have to keep fighting. So thank you all so
Speaker 10: very much. Let's give it up again.
Speaker 1: For Reverend doctor Karen mcginney, Minister Janney, We're so grateful
Speaker 1: for you all.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
Speaker 15: A young leader in this state. Y'all have potential on potential,
Speaker 15: on potential. Y'all have a pipeline here in this state
Speaker 15: of incredible young leaders and this one is no is
Speaker 15: no exception, and that is your Lieutenant Governor, Miss Peggy Flanagain.
Speaker 15: Lieutenant govern I'm gonna start with you with this question,
Speaker 15: which is simply the set out the states.
Speaker 13: What has it been like.
Speaker 16: Trying to lead during this time, supporting your governor, holding
Speaker 16: down your position, supporting these electeds around the state, and
Speaker 16: the most importantly, supporting your people. What's the state of mind?
Speaker 16: How are you all getting through this? And where do
Speaker 16: you diagnose where you are right now in this fight
Speaker 16: with the fades.
Speaker 17: Well, I would say we're exhausted, but not tired. And
Speaker 17: as we have watched over the last eight weeks, but like,
Speaker 17: let's be real, the surge has started, but ice has
Speaker 17: been here for a long time, and so you know
Speaker 17: what we have seen and I absolutely am eager to
Speaker 17: hear from my colleagues because they have been on the
Speaker 17: front lines. But what we have seen is just absolute
Speaker 17: chaos and fear, and what is being done under the
Speaker 17: guise of safety right couldn't be further from the truth.
Speaker 17: When there are two Minnesotans who have been killed by ice,
Speaker 17: when we have five year olds and two year olds
Speaker 17: who are being detained and brought to Texas, and just
Speaker 17: the lies, the lies, the continue to come out of
Speaker 17: this administration about the individuals who have been killed at
Speaker 17: their hands.
Speaker 10: It is outrageous.
Speaker 17: And so what I have seen over the last several
Speaker 17: weeks is.
Speaker 9: The best of Minnesota.
Speaker 17: It's folks who are stepping up, who are standing outside
Speaker 17: of schools and daycares and churches and getting food and
Speaker 17: mutual aid and responding in a way that I think
Speaker 17: folks who aren't expecting from Minnesota. But we care about
Speaker 17: each other, We stand up for our neighbors. And this
Speaker 17: isn't just about the Twin Cities. As we've been traveling
Speaker 17: across the state, ice is everywhere. Right We're in Alexandria,
Speaker 17: they're there, Detroit Lakes they're there, Saint Cloud they're there.
Speaker 17: And so this just terror has to stop, and they
Speaker 17: got to get out. And I want to just name
Speaker 17: something that I think is really there's a through line here.
Speaker 17: Individuals who are being detained are being brought to Fort Snelling,
Speaker 17: which was essentially a concentration camp for Dakota women, children
Speaker 17: and elders. And now that's where folks are bringing, you know,
Speaker 17: brought to in this moment. And so the through line
Speaker 17: is that the federal government continues this long cycle right
Speaker 17: of separating families of detention. And so I would say again,
Speaker 17: we are exhausted, but not hired and will continue to
Speaker 17: show up for our neighbors, continue to use non violent
Speaker 17: protest and resistance. And that's what you've seen happen all
Speaker 17: across the state. And so much of the groundwork that
Speaker 17: has been laid is because of the good organizing work
Speaker 17: that has happened over the last several decades in this state.
Speaker 17: People have relationships, they have trust, right and we can
Speaker 17: then just put all that into.
Speaker 4: Action and excellently give it a run of the clause.
Speaker 1: Oh, this Brether, I know very very well. We became
Speaker 1: close after I read his New York Times best selling
Speaker 1: book My Grandmother's Hands. And you all know that Resma
Speaker 1: Minicum is doing the work of the people every single
Speaker 1: day in Minnesota, making sure that we are able to
Speaker 1: process the trauma that we experience on a day to
Speaker 1: day basis a result wherever you want to say, we
Speaker 1: thank God for you. But I think that it's important
Speaker 1: for us to understand how we reckon with what's going on.
Speaker 1: And as doctor King Best said, where do we go
Speaker 1: from here?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 18: You know, Doctor King also said another thing. He said
Speaker 18: that just before he passed. He said, you know, I'm
Speaker 18: afraid that I've taken my people into a burning house, right,
Speaker 18: And I want to start there because a lot of
Speaker 18: times we start with healing like this, like it's this
Speaker 18: magical thing, right. And what I want to say is
Speaker 18: if in this moment in time, where people are being
Speaker 18: murdered in the streets, that our officials' only caveat is
Speaker 18: to say we need to be better, they are leading
Speaker 18: us into a burning building. You get to be angry
Speaker 18: in this moment, You get to be pissed off in
Speaker 18: this moment. You get to figure out how you turn
Speaker 18: towards each other as opposed to on each other.
Speaker 13: That's what they want us to do.
Speaker 18: And so when I talk about healing, about healing, I'm
Speaker 18: talking about how do we tend to the things snatching babies.
Speaker 13: Out of people's arms.
Speaker 18: They're executing people by shooting them in the back and
Speaker 18: in the chest, and don't care that you're filming it.
Speaker 18: They're shooting women in the face and then calling them
Speaker 18: foul names after they do it.
Speaker 13: They kneeling.
Speaker 18: And let me say this last piece. Ain't This don't
Speaker 18: sound healing, but it is healing. What I'm talking to
Speaker 18: you about is healing is tending to the things that
Speaker 18: are showing up and beginning to figure out how you
Speaker 18: use that as fuel for your liberation. Right, we're not
Speaker 18: going to get out of this and return back.
Speaker 13: Gavin Newsom ain't coming to save a Shaw.
Speaker 5: Can you say it again?
Speaker 1: Gay got mad at me when I went together.
Speaker 18: Gather Newsome, the current governor of Minnesota, are not coming
Speaker 18: to save us.
Speaker 13: Let me just ask this one question.
Speaker 18: What if what we're seeing right now is the best
Speaker 18: they got?
Speaker 13: What if there are no better angels?
Speaker 18: What if what we are seeing is all they got
Speaker 18: for us? What does that mean in terms of what
Speaker 18: we need to do right? And that's what I want
Speaker 18: to talk about when I say healing. So when your
Speaker 18: question about healing says, we have to start, nobody's coming
Speaker 18: to save us. The midterms ain't coming to save us.
Speaker 18: We are being asked right now, who are we going
Speaker 18: to be in the face of tyranny?
Speaker 13: That's the healing.
Speaker 1: Now to close us out, Thomas seen at Petras, one
Speaker 1: of your very own is going to join us again.
Speaker 5: To take us home. As we in Native Lampid.
Speaker 1: We will tell y'all what we always say, Welcome home, y'all.
Speaker 19: All right, ladies and gentlemen. And so I'm really proud
Speaker 19: to debut this uh this song. We just launched it
Speaker 19: called Don't Buy the Lie. Kashimana Ahua and myself wrote
Speaker 19: it for just this moment. We're honored to be able
Speaker 19: to sing it tonight. If you want to see the video,
Speaker 19: videographer with Jossi Uh did the video for us. It's
Speaker 19: available on Thomasina's music, dot square and YouTube. So this
Speaker 19: is for the love of our community and for you.
Speaker 19: Thank you for being here tonight and letting us use
Speaker 19: our voices this way.
Speaker 13: Oh.
Speaker 5: I got my head and my head. Oh you got
Speaker 5: me thinking.
Speaker 4: M mm hmmm.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I don't understand why you want me drinking. I
Speaker 5: got my head in my hands. Oh you got me fussing.
Speaker 20: Because you done up to my place. Now you got
Speaker 20: me cussing? Why you want me niked? Why you want
Speaker 20: me bood?
Speaker 21: Why you want me frighten, hopers and confused?
Speaker 22: It's gonna cuss you to because when they hurt me,
Speaker 22: they hurt you. We're all connected.
Speaker 23: Can't you see none of us surfere.
Speaker 5: To all of us surffery.
Speaker 22: You don't care who I am.
Speaker 5: You don't wanna know me, You just want to cos
Speaker 5: hop to Lord, show me you ignor true, rather be
Speaker 5: blind to see me. But the shame is on you.
Speaker 20: Because you could never own what's always been free?
Speaker 12: So afraid of faces, so afraid of truth, mostessing hatred.
Speaker 21: What's this world coming to? It's going to costume to
Speaker 21: cause when they hurt me, they hurt you. We're all connected.
Speaker 23: Can't you see none of us surfree?
Speaker 24: Normal to all of us surfree?
Speaker 19: I got my heart in my hate, dreaming of what
Speaker 19: could be?
Speaker 24: Or all in no vitalnce, Nos going hungry.
Speaker 25: No, no nose in addiction.
Speaker 5: Nos dying yards No, every life of secret more sacred
Speaker 5: than you.
Speaker 20: God.
Speaker 26: No, God's gonna lost you too.
Speaker 5: Husband.
Speaker 25: They hurt me, they hurt you. We're all connected. Can't
Speaker 25: you see? None of less are free.
Speaker 24: No to all of us surfree, none of those surfree,
Speaker 24: to all of us surfree.
Speaker 9: Can we say it to everybody?
Speaker 26: None of us surfree, so all of us?
Speaker 13: Thomas Singer, who Cuts Your Spy.
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