1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Native Lampard is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media and speaking of elected officials who are 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: accountable to the people, who are regularly representing what we 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: need done, ensuring that our voices are heard, and that 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: there's an advocate in one of the highest offices in Minnesota. 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: Please join me and welcome me your Attorney General, Keith Ellison. 7 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: He's got a receiving line, y'all, he's. 8 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: Coming, Attorney General, Keith Ellison. Ladies and gentlemen, I mean 9 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: I try. 10 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: I said, I'm channeling Angela Davis. That's who I was 11 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: named after. I yield the floor to the Attorney General there. 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: Thank you, Angela Hey, thank you guys for being out 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: here tonight. I can't think of a more important place 14 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 3: for you to be. Our country, in our state, in 15 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: our city, in this very moment, has been the site 16 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 3: of the largest single escalation of ICE agents of immigration 17 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: officials in the history of the United States. Ordinarily, ICE 18 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 3: has about one hundred people for. 19 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 4: The five state area, the five state area. 20 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: Now they have four thousand ICE agents for just the 21 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 3: state of Minnesota, which is an increase. I don't have 22 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: to tell you what's been happening. You live here, you've 23 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 3: been seeing it, you've been experiencing it yourself. 24 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: But this blanket of. 25 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: Attack is certainly not normal, not justified, and it's not legal. 26 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: So what we have done about Operation Metro Surge, first 27 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: of all, as we filed a lawsuit which was heard yesterday, 28 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: and what we argue was very simple that if the 29 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: federal government cannot bully and take over Minnesota and pass 30 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: laws to make us do what the federal government wants, 31 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: if they can't do it with an executive order or 32 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: with a piece of legislation, they certainly can't do it 33 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: with four thousand armed, masked men. If they couldn't pass 34 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: the law that said all Minnesota law enforcement is now 35 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: an ice agent, which they could not do, they certainly 36 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 3: can't say, oh, you don't want to do it our way, 37 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: We're going to send people with guns in large numbers 38 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: to your state to intimidate and even kill people. At 39 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: the end of the day, I believe we are going 40 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: to prevail because we're right and what we're doing is just, 41 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 3: and I am telling you that we're not here to 42 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 3: back down. And I will also tell you this, there 43 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: is no legal barrier to a state prosecutor. 44 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 4: Charging a federal agent. You understand there's. 45 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: No legal barrier. I've been a lawyer for thirty six years. 46 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: I'm here to tell you that law and morality are 47 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: not the same thing. That unjust things happen in the 48 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 3: name of the law. But what I'm telling you is 49 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: that it is not a fact that the federal agents 50 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: can commit crimes in this state and never have to 51 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: worry about accountability. You heard the Vice President of the 52 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: United States tell you absolute immunity. I don't know if 53 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: he's lying or if he just doesn't know the law, 54 00:03:54,040 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: but he's absolutely wrong. You could pick lying or ignorant, 55 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: but he's wrong either way. 56 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: You can pick either one. But it is not the case. 57 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: And the real challenge, and I'm just gonna be very 58 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: clear with you guys, is the pragmatic reality of completing 59 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 3: an investigation and then getting a case to a grand 60 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: jury or getting enough probable cause to charge. 61 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: Now, there's a lot of cases. 62 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: That are hard to bring because you do have evidentiary barriers. 63 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: In this situation, there's so much video evidence. There is 64 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 3: so much video evidence, and look, so the reality of 65 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: the situation is I'm not going to stand Uparia and 66 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: say I'm charging that dude with this, and I'm gonna 67 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 3: tell you why, because that would be improper. 68 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 4: Prosecutors shouldn't do that. 69 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: You all will remember when George Floyd was murdered, first 70 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 3: we got the evidence together, then we charge all four 71 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 3: of them with murder. H I'm just using that as 72 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: an example to let you know that nobody here should 73 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: feel that these people are just gonna skate on this. 74 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: Okay, you shouldn't feel that way. Now. When when when 75 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 4: on the first time. 76 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: When they killed uh Renee Good, local police went and said, 77 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 3: we need to process the crime scene, find evidence, put 78 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 3: put things down, you know, the little little cards and 79 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 3: put the numbers down, and make sure that we process 80 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 3: the scene. 81 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: And the federal agent. 82 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: Said, no, you're not going to be allowed to do that, 83 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: and we're going to take the casings, we're gonna take 84 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 3: this car, and we're going to take the gun. 85 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 4: So then it was like, okay, that's different. 86 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: And then they shot a man in North Minneapolis who's 87 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: who survived only right over there some of y'all might 88 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: have been who was there that night in North Minneapolis 89 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: when it was when the chemical irritant was in the 90 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: wear ear like smoke everywhere. 91 00:05:58,480 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 4: Good to see you there, Latania. 92 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: And then but and then they said, no, you're not 93 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: going to process that scene. So now on this one, 94 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: we hear about Preddie getting shot. We went to court 95 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: and got a court order and got a judge to 96 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 3: rule that the evidence may not be destroyed, may not 97 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 3: be tampers with, and we have to have access with it. 98 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 4: And the judge issue the order Saturday night. 99 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: We were back in court yesterday arguing it and the 100 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: court is not ruled yet, but we are confident that 101 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: they're not going to be able to mess around with 102 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 3: this evidence. So what I'm just telling you that that 103 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 3: whether it's a civil action that we've taken or whether 104 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 3: it's the criminal cases, we are going to do everything 105 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: we can to make sure there's truth and accountability here. Now, 106 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 3: let me just tell you this, this situation, this oppression 107 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 3: that Minnesota is under right now, will not be solved 108 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: in a courtroom. It just won't be Like so after 109 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: the Floyd case, did police brutality stop. No, That's why 110 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: at the time I said, this is not justice, but 111 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: it is accountability. The real justice and the real freedom 112 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: and the real true democracy will be because you go 113 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: out in the street and demonstrate and say no to 114 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: this oppression. It is the people in the street, in 115 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: the hearts and the minds of the people marching in 116 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: nine below weather, standing up and saying no, We're not 117 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: going to let you roll over us this way, which 118 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: is going to win the day, together with elections, together 119 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 3: with the artists, together with all of these things that 120 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: we collect to try to create a just society. 121 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: And it's not overnight. 122 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 3: And I cannot guarantee you perfect safety as you fight 123 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: for justice any more than people could guarantee Martin Luther King. Oh, 124 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: nobody's ever going to hurt you if you stand up 125 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: for justice, or nobody's ever gonna hurt you. Nobody's ever 126 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: gonna harm you if you protest. 127 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: Jimmy Lee Jackson, we all know what happened. 128 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: There's no guarantee of perfect safety when an oppress or 129 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: feels threatened that you're trying to be free yourself. So 130 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, friends, I am asking 131 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: you to protest. I'm asking you to protest peacefully and safely. 132 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: But I would rather you be out there facing those 133 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: bad guys and that is exactly what they are than 134 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: sitting at home worrying about your own comfort and safety 135 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: safely not doing anything. We need people to be We 136 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: need everybody to do whatever they can do. And some people, look, 137 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: they got bad needs, they've got disabilities. 138 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 4: They can't be out there protested. 139 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: Well, maybe you can make calls and get people to 140 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: the election that's coming up. Maybe you can do mutual 141 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: aid for people who are shut up in their homes 142 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: and can't even go to work because they're scared to 143 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: isations going to stop them. But at the end of 144 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: the day, all of us have to do something in 145 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: this movement that we're in, and you being here tonight 146 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: is doing something, is doing. 147 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 4: Something important, because let me tell. 148 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: You, presence is Presence is power, friends, witnesses power. And 149 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: let me tell you the bad ones out there who 150 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: are trying to press all of us, they know very 151 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: well that you're having a meeting here tonight at the Capri. 152 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: You think they don't know. 153 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: If they knew, if they were spying on you in 154 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 3: the sixties. You think they're not spying you on you 155 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: in the twenty twenties. 156 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 5: Of course they are, But screw them. 157 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 4: We're not scared of them. 158 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 3: And I don't care if mister Miss Christinoan knows that 159 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: I'm here working with you guys. 160 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 4: And you should not. And if you're scared that she's 161 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 4: going to know about you, be they or you in 162 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 4: the wrong place. This is this movement. 163 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 3: We are guarantee success because we are faithful. We are 164 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: guarantee success because we are faithful, and we won't quit 165 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: and we won't ever give up. Now, a last word 166 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: that I want to say to you, And I don't 167 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: know if Angela wants me to answer any questions or not, 168 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 3: but there is one word I want to say to 169 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: you before I rap. I want to urge you and 170 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: talk to you about the fundamental importance of human solidarity 171 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: in this moment, because so often we're oppressed based on 172 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: our identity and as African Americans. You and I know 173 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 3: two hundred and forty six years of slavery, one hundred 174 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: years of Jim Crow, and disparities in race every single 175 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: year after that, there's never been a moment where black 176 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: life in America has been celebrated in official channels. The 177 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: one time somebody black becomes president, it scares this country 178 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 3: so bad that it brings on Donald Trump. 179 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 4: So you and I both know the deal here. But 180 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: what I'm saying to you. 181 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: Is, as a child who's as a child of African descent, 182 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: as a black man in America, who can trace my 183 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 3: roots in America since seventeen forty two, I can. 184 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: These folks can't tell me I don't I'm not from here. 185 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: And no black person in this room whose ancestors came 186 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: here and slavery can be told you're not from here. 187 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: But did you know that you were not a citizen 188 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: up until the fourteenth Amendment? 189 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 4: Did you know that? 190 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: Did you know that the Supreme Court justice in the 191 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 3: United States, the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, 192 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 3: said black people who were born, lived their whole lives, 193 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 3: and died in this country for seven generations up until 194 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 3: the about eighteen fifties were not citizens. So this thing 195 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: about citizen his own always been racially informed. Did you 196 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: know that the first statutes on immigration to this country 197 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: said only free white people could come here. It wasn't 198 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: until nineteen sixty five that Asian, Latin American, and African 199 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: people could immigrate to the United States. Immigration was a 200 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: civil rights bill, just like the Voting Rights Act was. 201 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 4: And so I'm gonna send me over here like a 202 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 4: sign man. 203 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 5: He just said, might drop. 204 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: Okay, y'all give it up again for Attorney General Keith Dallison. 205 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 5: He walked all the way out. We love him. 206 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: We're so grateful for his passion, first commitment, for being 207 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: here with us this evening again on such short notice. 208 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Attorney General Keith Ellison. I'm bringing 209 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: out my co host Andrew gillim Bacari Sellers. We have 210 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: a quick pianel with some clergy folk who are doing 211 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: tremendous work. 212 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 5: Who cares about truth when the last more. 213 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 4: Than saying it. 214 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: As you all know, there was a big organizing effort 215 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: with clergy at the airport just last week. It is 216 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: important that folks are raising their voices because we know 217 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: there's a whole other one that has a whole church. 218 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: But he's also working with ice, but we'll talk about 219 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: that another time. Please welcome to the stage Reverend doctor 220 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: Kiaren McKinney, Professor and Community Liaison at Betha University, Minister 221 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: Janeyamuri be Betsamurray Believe, Co Executive Director of Faith in Minnesota, 222 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: and Isaiah and our good sister when Tana Mellikin Executive 223 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: director of Groundwork Action co hosts. 224 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 5: You're coming back out. 225 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna ask some quick questions and I know we're 226 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: getting the calls to action. So the hour is late 227 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: and we got to work. I don't know where when 228 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: Tana is, but she will join us soon hopefully. All Right, Well, 229 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: first of all, ladies, can you talk about the importance 230 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: of motivating and moving clergy to act at a time 231 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: like this. I think about the letter from the Birmingham 232 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: jail and what doctor King was challenging us with. 233 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 5: Come I Andrew challenging. 234 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: Us with, and it feels like this moment is yet 235 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: again a choice between white nationalists, Christianity and black liberation 236 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: theology and then somewhere in between everybody else when Tana, 237 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: everybody give it up for when Tana we introduced one 238 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: Tina Mother King. Yes, but I want you to weigh 239 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: in on that Janay, and then I'll yield to you. 240 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 5: I mean absolutely. 241 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 6: The reality is that we are we are going to 242 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 6: constantly recreate history and we get to beat the ciders 243 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 6: on if we're going to be history makers in the 244 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 6: midst of it. And so I would say it is 245 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 6: not just about frankly agitating the Church, but it is 246 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 6: about agitating America that proclaims and professes to be the Church. 247 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 6: And so when you are living in a place in 248 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 6: the land that weaponizes my Jesus and my Bible, I 249 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 6: am I find it incredibly important that people who say 250 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 6: that they know God, say that they know Christ, actually 251 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 6: live that out and call other folks into it. And 252 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 6: so the action that we took on Friday, on the 253 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 6: Day of Truth and Freedom, even the fact that that 254 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 6: I think it's important to say, even the fact that 255 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 6: day came into being was because of a bunch of 256 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 6: people of faith and union leaders and community members who 257 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 6: said that we are going to take ourselves seriously enough 258 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 6: to build the kind of power to orchestrate the kind 259 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 6: of organizing necessary to have something like that. Because the 260 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 6: reality is that people can call for an economic blackout 261 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 6: or a general strike and like say that thing. But 262 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 6: then you got to look back to what happened in Montgomery, 263 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 6: Alabama in nineteen fifty five. When folks in a church 264 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 6: said we're going to have the Montgomery bus boycott. It 265 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 6: was not just oh, let's do this thing and we're 266 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 6: going to say it and it'll happen. They put in 267 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 6: the ground game to have three hundred and eighty one 268 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 6: days of people being able to get to work, to 269 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 6: be able to get their kids, to be able to 270 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 6: go to groceries and not take the bus, and so 271 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 6: with a man and so I do think that people 272 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 6: of faith have to make sure that we are truly 273 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 6: taking ourselves seriously enough to strategize what does it mean 274 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 6: to do something today, what is it going to mean 275 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 6: for us tomorrow, what is it going to look like 276 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 6: for our people to day after that, and actually put 277 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 6: in the real grit in organizing that's required to make 278 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 6: that kind of thing come to be. 279 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 7: I had a shirt that said, Jesus is not just 280 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 7: a Sunday thing because a lot of times we don't 281 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 7: ascribe to the notion that they teach us in the 282 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 7: Book of James that says that faith without works is dead. 283 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 7: Because sometimes we become a very praying people, our knees 284 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 7: get sore, we put holes in the carpet and forget 285 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 7: that we have to put our shoulder to the wheel 286 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 7: on Monday to go out and get out the ditch. 287 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 7: My question is about the disconnect that the church has 288 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 7: perceived with this new generation that's coming up and how 289 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 7: we as believers of whatever can bridge that gap because 290 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 7: we need them in our doors. The church used to 291 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 7: be Andrew and I we were having this discussion and 292 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 7: Angela as well last week on the show, but we 293 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 7: all agreed that the church used to be that, and 294 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 7: our stress used to be the epicenter of change. That's 295 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 7: where we had our organizational meetings, that's where we had 296 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 7: our precinct meetings. That's where we fed the hungary in 297 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 7: our communities. I mean, this event in nineteen sixty five 298 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 7: would have been in somebody Baptist church in Minneapolis. Doors, 299 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 7: open bus is going to get folks bringing them here 300 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 7: church moms. I mean, so, how do we get back 301 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 7: to that or evolve to the next iteration of that 302 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 7: while also opening our arms to a generation that feels 303 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 7: is that the church is not their home anymore. And 304 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 7: for me, that's that's almost devastating. 305 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 8: McKinney, that's a hard one, see because and maybe it's 306 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 8: because I'm older, and that disconnect, I see, it's there. 307 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 8: I have ninety four nieces and nephews, ninety four nieces 308 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 8: and nephews and grand nieces and great grands and so 309 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 8: when I started doing this, I started calling up my 310 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 8: nieces and nephews and saying, come come with me. 311 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 9: You have to care. You don't have a choice. And 312 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 9: it's like, oh, that's a Karen reverend and Karen. But 313 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 9: some of them listen. 314 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 8: So I think there's a disconnect, but there's also you know, 315 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 8: they see what's going on and they care. And so 316 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 8: when I said come to this training, you know, some 317 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 8: of four of them showed up and came to the 318 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 8: training and and it's like. 319 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 9: You have you have to be out there with me. 320 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 8: So so I think they're seeing and I'm not sure 321 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 8: that that. I mean, I know there's a disconnect, but 322 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 8: in my church, we have a rebirth of young people 323 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 8: because I remember the days when you know, I'm standing 324 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 8: and I'm shaking hands and standing by the door and 325 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 8: there's not too many young people. 326 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 9: But then I counted seven babies. I said, seven people 327 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 9: with seven babies. 328 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 8: Walk by, you know, and it's like, we're getting people, 329 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 8: and so they want they people are hungry for it. 330 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 8: And in my church, which is Fellowship Missionary Baptist Church, 331 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 8: we we we are unashamedly black, yes, and we're proud 332 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 8: to be a black church and own that even if 333 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 8: all of our members are. 334 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 9: Not, and so we want that that black history. 335 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 8: We profess that, we say that we are proud of that, 336 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 8: and we call forth people to be active and not 337 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 8: sit back. And so you know, I was designated in 338 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 8: my church to be when we started this Black Core 339 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 8: Leadership Team, We're going to be one of these churches 340 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 8: that is involved in Isaiah and faith in Minnesota. The 341 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 8: pastor said, you take the lead on that. So I 342 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 8: took the lead on that. And I was with those 343 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 8: people who got arrested on Friday because I'm taking the 344 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 8: lead on that, and that's the expectation. And there's all 345 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 8: kinds of people from my churches and all the other 346 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 8: churches that they put in and they say yes. And 347 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 8: I left this meeting, left a meeting where people were saying, 348 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 8: we're going to Caucus and are you committed to caucusing 349 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 8: and are you committed to bringing ten more people with 350 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 8: you to Caucus on February third, And people were saying, yes, 351 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 8: I'm committed to this for the long run, and I'm 352 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 8: going to ask my people. 353 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 9: So we're still we're still doing it. 354 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, I love that. 355 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 4: Give her a round of applause for that. I mean 356 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 4: and I am. 357 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 7: I mean, my last comment on this is that I am. 358 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 7: I am absolutely unapologetic about the onus that I put 359 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 7: on the Black Church. And the reason being is because 360 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 7: I feel like as a community, and this may be 361 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 7: right or wrong, but I'll probably die with this. We 362 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 7: don't survive, but we thrive if our church is the 363 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 7: foundation of our community, not just our faith. 364 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with you speaking of the foundation 365 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: of our community. Sit next to someone who created the 366 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: Groundwork Institute, And I want to just take a moment 367 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: here because without Antana, protests and general strikes in all 368 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: of that, the rally last week would not have happened 369 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: last Friday. 370 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 10: And so let's please give it up. 371 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: For Auntana and all the work she's doing. And I 372 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: also just want to acknowledge the human cost of the 373 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: work she is battling to make sure that her loved 374 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: ones are safe in the midst of putting her body 375 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: on the line for all of us. And so I 376 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: want you for a moment to talk about the fact 377 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: when I'm acknowledging you give all of you to this community. 378 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: I want to know and this is probably going to 379 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: be very hard because you're a black woman in America, 380 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: but I want to know what this room can give 381 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: back to you. 382 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 11: First, I just want to say thank you for having me. 383 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 11: And I also want to say the only reason I 384 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 11: was a part of the march in the rally last 385 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 11: week is because Janey propositioned me to show up and 386 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 11: take that role. Janey was the person that really was 387 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 11: the foundation of it and called me into her team. 388 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 11: They actually just voted me in on Monday as a 389 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 11: physical member, and so I just want to acknowledge all 390 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 11: the work she did. 391 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 10: So thank you. 392 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 12: So. 393 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 11: As angel shared, I am an air trained American, I'm 394 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 11: a US citizen, but I also am struggling with immigration 395 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 11: issues across my family. I mean, just yesterday, when coordinating 396 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 11: with Angela around this, I had a family member picked 397 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 11: up and now they're in New Mexico and we're trying 398 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 11: to figure out what to do about it. Lately, in Minnesota, 399 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 11: most folks have been getting sent to Texas and how they're. 400 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 10: Wet folks going to a new state. 401 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 11: As y'all know, about three thousand folks have been picked 402 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 11: up over the last couple of weeks. 403 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 10: They have been sent all over the country. 404 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 11: I have family members who are US citizens, I've had 405 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 11: family members with green cards. I have folks with more 406 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 11: complex statuses who have been picked up by ICE. 407 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 10: There is no strategy, no theory. 408 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 11: They are just picking up our community members and making 409 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 11: them disappear. And at the same time, the other part 410 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 11: of this battle is that I'm an executive director of 411 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 11: not one but two institutions, Groundwork Institute and Groundwork Action, 412 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 11: where I got to get up every day and do 413 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 11: the political organizing and do the development and the training 414 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 11: and all that at the same time, you know, having 415 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 11: to figure out what ally can I send a whipple 416 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 11: to pick up my cousin because I can't go back 417 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 11: there again after you know, being there just a weeks 418 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 11: before that picking a different family member. And so I 419 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 11: asked for everyone in this community is to continue with 420 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 11: the demands ICE out of Minnesota. Absolutely, I need you 421 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 11: to contact your member of Congress and make those demands, 422 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 11: your state rep, your city council member, every single level 423 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 11: of government. The other thing I'll add is that last 424 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 11: Friday during the march, I sat at my computer and 425 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 11: I deleted my Netflix. I deleted every Postmates, all the 426 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 11: little services I had, I canceled them. The only place 427 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 11: I've been shopping at is my co op, Like folks 428 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 11: that I know have already taken a political position to 429 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 11: say we stand with immigrants, we don't stand with ice. 430 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 10: And I have just been. 431 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 11: Unapologetic about rethinking about the way I spend money, the 432 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 11: way I move, and I encourage everybody else in this 433 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 11: room to do that. And I just think one other 434 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 11: thing I got a name that I think can't be 435 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 11: forgotten about this moment is that I am very clear 436 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 11: that the only reason I have the right to be 437 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 11: in the United States is the work of black Americans. 438 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 11: Is very clear that after passing the Civil Rights Act, 439 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 11: and after the passing of Voting Rights Act, the Immigration 440 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 11: Act was passed, after that, the work of Martin Luther 441 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 11: King to open the door and all the others to 442 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 11: open the door to allow immigrants into the United States. 443 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 11: And so I very clearly see, after all the organizing 444 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 11: I did for Jamar Clark and PHILANDEO Castile, I have 445 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 11: very overwhelmingly seen the Black American community step up in 446 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 11: this moment and stand in solidarity. And I'd be remiss 447 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 11: if I didn't name that. And so I don't know 448 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 11: what more to ask for. I have seen folks really 449 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 11: step up in this moment, and I just encourage folks 450 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 11: to continue to do it with their political power, their message, 451 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 11: and their money. 452 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 7: So I guess before we do our all actions out there, 453 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 7: any final I mean, I'm a big I'm the person 454 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 7: who's crying on the airplane. I have my hoodie own 455 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 7: and they'd be like, why is he tearing up? Because 456 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 7: it's a Marven Sap plan in my ear. So I'm 457 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 7: that emotional guy who's crying. If any parting words for 458 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 7: this audience, as we begin to bring this to a 459 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 7: close of faith, the strength that we have, what we 460 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 7: need to do to persevere to get through this dark time. 461 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 7: You can preach a little bit, just a little bit. 462 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 7: You're not that Baptist stuff. 463 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 4: Love it. 464 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 8: I would just I guess I would say God chooses 465 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 8: no hands but our hands. God uses no hands but 466 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 8: our hands and feet and and and so we have 467 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 8: to choose. We have to choose to let God use 468 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 8: our hands and feet. And we have to choose it 469 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 8: every day. It's not a one time choice. You're not done, 470 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 8: you know, and tomorrow I get to just lay in. No, 471 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 8: we have to we have to choose it every day, 472 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 8: and it matters for the generations that come behind us. 473 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 8: What what kind of kids? What are what are our 474 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 8: kids going to have? You know, if we keep going backwards, 475 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 8: so we have to pick uh and we if we 476 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 8: can't let go? 477 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, that's whatever. 478 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 13: Is said, man. 479 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 6: I mean I would just lean, have us all lean 480 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 6: into the story of the Good Samaritan, the notion that 481 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 6: there is there when anytime there is someone who is hurting, 482 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 6: someone who has beaten, someone who has oppressed, someone who 483 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 6: is downtrotten, for whatever reason, we. 484 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 9: Are called to do and to act. 485 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 6: And there were folks who walked past that body and thought, 486 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 6: I can't I can't do anything about that because if 487 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 6: I do, what happens to me? And the one who 488 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 6: decided to stop said I if I keep going, what 489 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 6: happens to them? And I think there is a collective 490 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 6: what happens to us if we don't act? And so 491 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 6: is that is the call? And for the Minnesotans. I 492 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,239 Speaker 6: can't end this without saying for the Minnesotans who are 493 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 6: in the room, especially black Minnesotans. 494 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 5: February third is Caucus day. 495 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 14: Okay, we we could talk all day and like those 496 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 14: settings like this, but it is so incredible important that 497 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 14: we use our voice and having oversize an outside stay 498 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 14: about what happens. 499 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 5: In our state and in our country. 500 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 6: And you get the opportunity to do that when you caucus, 501 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 6: and when we caucus together in unity. 502 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 5: A man, Okay, I go to a. 503 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 10: Catholic church, so I can't sermon like that. It's not 504 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 10: in me. 505 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 11: I'll try my best, So I just I'd be remiss 506 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 11: if I didn't talk about what happened. About an hour 507 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 11: before I walked in this room, a congersoman Omar at 508 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 11: her town hall was standing there talking about how we 509 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 11: need to hold the federal government accountable. And a man 510 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 11: walked up to her with a substance and spread. 511 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 9: Her in the face. 512 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 11: And you know, I have to also talk about how 513 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 11: commersoone orders won. 514 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 10: She swung back, She literally swung back. 515 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 11: She approached him and then cleaned herself up and then 516 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 11: continued the forum, continue the conversation. 517 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 10: She put out a statement and said, we have to 518 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 10: keep going. 519 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 11: We have to keep fighting, and this is very difficult, 520 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 11: this is absolutely horrific, but also we have to keep going. 521 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 10: We have to keep fighting. So thank you all so 522 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 10: very much. Let's give it up again. 523 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: For Reverend doctor Karen mcginney, Minister Janney, We're so grateful 524 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: for you all. 525 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. 526 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 15: A young leader in this state. Y'all have potential on potential, 527 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 15: on potential. Y'all have a pipeline here in this state 528 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 15: of incredible young leaders and this one is no is 529 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 15: no exception, and that is your Lieutenant Governor, Miss Peggy Flanagain. 530 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 15: Lieutenant govern I'm gonna start with you with this question, 531 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 15: which is simply the set out the states. 532 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 13: What has it been like. 533 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 16: Trying to lead during this time, supporting your governor, holding 534 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 16: down your position, supporting these electeds around the state, and 535 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 16: the most importantly, supporting your people. What's the state of mind? 536 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 16: How are you all getting through this? And where do 537 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 16: you diagnose where you are right now in this fight 538 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 16: with the fades. 539 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 17: Well, I would say we're exhausted, but not tired. And 540 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 17: as we have watched over the last eight weeks, but like, 541 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 17: let's be real, the surge has started, but ice has 542 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 17: been here for a long time, and so you know 543 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 17: what we have seen and I absolutely am eager to 544 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 17: hear from my colleagues because they have been on the 545 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 17: front lines. But what we have seen is just absolute 546 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 17: chaos and fear, and what is being done under the 547 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 17: guise of safety right couldn't be further from the truth. 548 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 17: When there are two Minnesotans who have been killed by ice, 549 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 17: when we have five year olds and two year olds 550 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 17: who are being detained and brought to Texas, and just 551 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 17: the lies, the lies, the continue to come out of 552 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 17: this administration about the individuals who have been killed at 553 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 17: their hands. 554 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 10: It is outrageous. 555 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 17: And so what I have seen over the last several 556 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 17: weeks is. 557 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 9: The best of Minnesota. 558 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 17: It's folks who are stepping up, who are standing outside 559 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 17: of schools and daycares and churches and getting food and 560 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 17: mutual aid and responding in a way that I think 561 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 17: folks who aren't expecting from Minnesota. But we care about 562 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 17: each other, We stand up for our neighbors. And this 563 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 17: isn't just about the Twin Cities. As we've been traveling 564 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 17: across the state, ice is everywhere. Right We're in Alexandria, 565 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 17: they're there, Detroit Lakes they're there, Saint Cloud they're there. 566 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 17: And so this just terror has to stop, and they 567 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 17: got to get out. And I want to just name 568 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 17: something that I think is really there's a through line here. 569 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 17: Individuals who are being detained are being brought to Fort Snelling, 570 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 17: which was essentially a concentration camp for Dakota women, children 571 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 17: and elders. And now that's where folks are bringing, you know, 572 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 17: brought to in this moment. And so the through line 573 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 17: is that the federal government continues this long cycle right 574 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 17: of separating families of detention. And so I would say again, 575 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 17: we are exhausted, but not hired and will continue to 576 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 17: show up for our neighbors, continue to use non violent 577 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 17: protest and resistance. And that's what you've seen happen all 578 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 17: across the state. And so much of the groundwork that 579 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 17: has been laid is because of the good organizing work 580 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 17: that has happened over the last several decades in this state. 581 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 17: People have relationships, they have trust, right and we can 582 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 17: then just put all that into. 583 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 4: Action and excellently give it a run of the clause. 584 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: Oh, this Brether, I know very very well. We became 585 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: close after I read his New York Times best selling 586 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: book My Grandmother's Hands. And you all know that Resma 587 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: Minicum is doing the work of the people every single 588 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: day in Minnesota, making sure that we are able to 589 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: process the trauma that we experience on a day to 590 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: day basis a result wherever you want to say, we 591 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: thank God for you. But I think that it's important 592 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: for us to understand how we reckon with what's going on. 593 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: And as doctor King Best said, where do we go 594 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: from here? 595 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 13: Yeah? 596 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 18: You know, Doctor King also said another thing. He said 597 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 18: that just before he passed. He said, you know, I'm 598 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 18: afraid that I've taken my people into a burning house, right, 599 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 18: And I want to start there because a lot of 600 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 18: times we start with healing like this, like it's this 601 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 18: magical thing, right. And what I want to say is 602 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 18: if in this moment in time, where people are being 603 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 18: murdered in the streets, that our officials' only caveat is 604 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 18: to say we need to be better, they are leading 605 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 18: us into a burning building. You get to be angry 606 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 18: in this moment, You get to be pissed off in 607 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 18: this moment. You get to figure out how you turn 608 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 18: towards each other as opposed to on each other. 609 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 13: That's what they want us to do. 610 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 18: And so when I talk about healing, about healing, I'm 611 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 18: talking about how do we tend to the things snatching babies. 612 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 13: Out of people's arms. 613 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 18: They're executing people by shooting them in the back and 614 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 18: in the chest, and don't care that you're filming it. 615 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 18: They're shooting women in the face and then calling them 616 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 18: foul names after they do it. 617 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 13: They kneeling. 618 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 18: And let me say this last piece. Ain't This don't 619 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 18: sound healing, but it is healing. What I'm talking to 620 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 18: you about is healing is tending to the things that 621 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 18: are showing up and beginning to figure out how you 622 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 18: use that as fuel for your liberation. Right, we're not 623 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 18: going to get out of this and return back. 624 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,959 Speaker 13: Gavin Newsom ain't coming to save a Shaw. 625 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 5: Can you say it again? 626 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 1: Gay got mad at me when I went together. 627 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 18: Gather Newsome, the current governor of Minnesota, are not coming 628 00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 18: to save us. 629 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 13: Let me just ask this one question. 630 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 18: What if what we're seeing right now is the best 631 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 18: they got? 632 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 13: What if there are no better angels? 633 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 18: What if what we are seeing is all they got 634 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 18: for us? What does that mean in terms of what 635 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 18: we need to do right? And that's what I want 636 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 18: to talk about when I say healing. So when your 637 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 18: question about healing says, we have to start, nobody's coming 638 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 18: to save us. The midterms ain't coming to save us. 639 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,919 Speaker 18: We are being asked right now, who are we going 640 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 18: to be in the face of tyranny? 641 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 13: That's the healing. 642 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: Now to close us out, Thomas seen at Petras, one 643 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: of your very own is going to join us again. 644 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 5: To take us home. As we in Native Lampid. 645 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: We will tell y'all what we always say, Welcome home, y'all. 646 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 19: All right, ladies and gentlemen. And so I'm really proud 647 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 19: to debut this uh this song. We just launched it 648 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 19: called Don't Buy the Lie. Kashimana Ahua and myself wrote 649 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 19: it for just this moment. We're honored to be able 650 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 19: to sing it tonight. If you want to see the video, 651 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 19: videographer with Jossi Uh did the video for us. It's 652 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 19: available on Thomasina's music, dot square and YouTube. So this 653 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 19: is for the love of our community and for you. 654 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 19: Thank you for being here tonight and letting us use 655 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 19: our voices this way. 656 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 13: Oh. 657 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 5: I got my head and my head. Oh you got 658 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 5: me thinking. 659 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 4: M mm hmmm. 660 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 5: Sometimes I don't understand why you want me drinking. I 661 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 5: got my head in my hands. Oh you got me fussing. 662 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 20: Because you done up to my place. Now you got 663 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 20: me cussing? Why you want me niked? Why you want 664 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 20: me bood? 665 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 21: Why you want me frighten, hopers and confused? 666 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 22: It's gonna cuss you to because when they hurt me, 667 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 22: they hurt you. We're all connected. 668 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 23: Can't you see none of us surfere. 669 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 5: To all of us surffery. 670 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 22: You don't care who I am. 671 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 5: You don't wanna know me, You just want to cos 672 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 5: hop to Lord, show me you ignor true, rather be 673 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 5: blind to see me. But the shame is on you. 674 00:39:55,120 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 20: Because you could never own what's always been free? 675 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 12: So afraid of faces, so afraid of truth, mostessing hatred. 676 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 21: What's this world coming to? It's going to costume to 677 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 21: cause when they hurt me, they hurt you. We're all connected. 678 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 23: Can't you see none of us surfree? 679 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 24: Normal to all of us surfree? 680 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 19: I got my heart in my hate, dreaming of what 681 00:40:59,200 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 19: could be? 682 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 24: Or all in no vitalnce, Nos going hungry. 683 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 25: No, no nose in addiction. 684 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 5: Nos dying yards No, every life of secret more sacred 685 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 5: than you. 686 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 20: God. 687 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 26: No, God's gonna lost you too. 688 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 5: Husband. 689 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 25: They hurt me, they hurt you. We're all connected. Can't 690 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 25: you see? None of less are free. 691 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 24: No to all of us surfree, none of those surfree, 692 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 24: to all of us surfree. 693 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 9: Can we say it to everybody? 694 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 26: None of us surfree, so all of us? 695 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 13: Thomas Singer, who Cuts Your Spy. 696 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: Native Lampard is a production of iHeart Radio and partnership 697 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media. For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, 698 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 699 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows.