Speaker 1: I am all in you. I Am all in with
Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, an I Heeart radio podcast. All right, everybody,
Speaker 1: we're back for part two. We're gonna do a part two,
Speaker 1: Season four, episode twenty one, Amy where did we leave off?
Speaker 1: So Liz makes a couple of points I thought were
Speaker 1: really really good in that scene. One is we learn
Speaker 1: she says, you know about being married got around that
Speaker 1: makes this point she could be married for fifty years.
Speaker 1: They're young enough that they could be married to these soulmates.
Speaker 1: And I say these because I was as Liz is
Speaker 1: talking to Lorly, all I'm thinking about is Luke. Then
Speaker 1: we have this moment where Lorala sees the book. So
Speaker 1: I just thought those are important little moments. Then the
Speaker 1: ceremony talk about it um just as funny as it gets.
Speaker 1: That dippy song was. It was wonderfully bizarre. The lyrics
Speaker 1: to that song could not have been more bizarre. And
Speaker 1: as a songwriter, I howled and I appreciated that so
Speaker 1: much because I'm writing a couple of songs right now
Speaker 1: and I'm struggling with the lyrics. And I discovered something
Speaker 1: yesterday which really opened up a song for me, and
Speaker 1: the lyrics started coming but it's sometimes a very difficult process.
Speaker 1: And the fact that he committed to those lyrics. Dippy
Speaker 1: has never been but I mean it was. It was
Speaker 1: just so wonderfully dippy and bizarre. Those lyrics were perfect
Speaker 1: for him, was that one. Luke and Laurel are just
Speaker 1: cracking use because because because the lyrics were so bizarre
Speaker 1: and great, and you know, I've written songs like that
Speaker 1: before that are just like, let's just try to be
Speaker 1: funny and write the most absurd ridiculous and you know
Speaker 1: half of my serious songs are like that anyway, But
Speaker 1: does it get your juices going? Like if you start
Speaker 1: just writing whatever can suddenly after you're kind of doing that,
Speaker 1: then you can write a good song because you're like
Speaker 1: the writer's book is gone right or something. If I
Speaker 1: see the Troubadour do something like that, no, or like
Speaker 1: if you're writing right and you're saying you're writing just
Speaker 1: a goofy dippy song, I would think that, like it
Speaker 1: just helps you get a better you get out there,
Speaker 1: because right if you're taking yourself too seriously and it's
Speaker 1: getting too heavy and it's like you're not coming up
Speaker 1: with it, and then you just write some dippy fun song,
Speaker 1: and it's and you kind of rediscover the joy of
Speaker 1: songwriting through that vehicle and then yeah, kind of you
Speaker 1: know it clearly this the clouds go away and then
Speaker 1: you can start start writing again in a real way
Speaker 1: without all of that the second guessing and judgment and
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. Anyway, but it was just it
Speaker 1: was just wonderful to experience somebody coming out with such
Speaker 1: confidence in their song. I have so many weddings to
Speaker 1: go to this year, and I was like, man, this
Speaker 1: is a fun theme and I love the party. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about that too, the whole thing. Yeah, but wait,
Speaker 1: how about when TJ's like still driving? Just wait Jackie
Speaker 1: speaking of there is a shot of Luke and Lorelai
Speaker 1: in the ceremony. I don't know if you can pull
Speaker 1: up the ceremony. To me, that was like, I literally
Speaker 1: was like, that's that is everything. There's a shot. You
Speaker 1: can't miss it when you're so basically Liz is on
Speaker 1: that weird rolling out chair thing and Jess comes down. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: they did a Charles Manson reference. Right, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it comes the cart wheel guy. Okay, so the cartwheel
Speaker 1: guy goes down, you see them. Here comes t J
Speaker 1: Loo look at the walk, Look at him. He's so good,
Speaker 1: he is still did you see miss Patty holding in
Speaker 1: a laugh? Okay, So then she's on this chair thrown.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to call it. That's one of them.
Speaker 1: Oh the wink, you guys, holy cleep, go back it up,
Speaker 1: did you I didn't see? Look at Luke. Look at Luke.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh goody good. Okay, So they have
Speaker 1: both DeLuise brothers, and I'm pretty sure maybe it was
Speaker 1: won the wink, but I'm pretty sure it's like right
Speaker 1: after this, just let this play because but it might
Speaker 1: have been they were let a play. So we get
Speaker 1: to t J's what the kids. We shared our toys, Monkeys,
Speaker 1: we lo clue, mouse trap fashions byro graph the Lilescope
Speaker 1: spinning YATSI I'm winning thinking about they're laughing. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: for love is the greatest toy around. Love is the
Speaker 1: greatest toy around when you look just loving every minute
Speaker 1: she loves. Oh, oh my god, how do you even
Speaker 1: do that acting of like you're fake laughing, you're trying
Speaker 1: not to laugh. But I feel like they're not even
Speaker 1: fake laughing, like I would be laughing if if I
Speaker 1: were the two of you, like it's funny. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just you know, acting is was always easy with her.
Speaker 1: She made it easier. It was always because you knew
Speaker 1: there was somebody there who was super focused and super concentrated.
Speaker 1: And the part when you're laughing and then Lucas hope, yeah, remember,
Speaker 1: oh shoot we missed it. Go back, go back because
Speaker 1: we missed as what yah? Can we go back? Here
Speaker 1: we go, I hope everyone listening. Yeah, it's like oh yeah,
Speaker 1: like yeah, what's up? So funny? God okay, So then
Speaker 1: we go back to Lane's apartment and h okay. I
Speaker 1: I don't know if I was just emotional, but I
Speaker 1: cried twice in this episode. And this was one moment
Speaker 1: where I cried, Like that part where because you just
Speaker 1: see the it's more of like face acting again, like
Speaker 1: the look on miss Kim's missus Kim's face like she's
Speaker 1: so happy to see Lane. Yeah, And it was like
Speaker 1: in that moment when she first walked, like if you
Speaker 1: go back and watch, I got emotional, but like she's
Speaker 1: so happy to see her until she sees the guys.
Speaker 1: But like that moment she's like it's my daughter, like
Speaker 1: I want to see her, you know, And so we
Speaker 1: forgot to mention the scene where the ant comes over
Speaker 1: and say, oh, yes him, we'll be coming here Sober
Speaker 1: States or whatever. Yeah, and then that she brings a
Speaker 1: bowl of soy pudding. I just love that the boys
Speaker 1: were wearing like ties bowing she said, extra crunchy, like
Speaker 1: you like it. I wonder how she prepped them, like
Speaker 1: how what is yeah? Okay, well there's there's part of
Speaker 1: this that I really enjoyed because she was coming to
Speaker 1: Lane's apartment and Lane was didn't try to pretend like
Speaker 1: everything was I don't know, amazing. She's like, sleep here,
Speaker 1: and then this is my room, and she was like
Speaker 1: very like this is me. This is what I'm doing,
Speaker 1: like honestly kind of proud of herself in a weird
Speaker 1: way and not hiding anything, which Laurla then calls out
Speaker 1: right after, and I just like I love that for Lane.
Speaker 1: I love that she was like you know what, mom,
Speaker 1: this is me. What did you think when missus Kim
Speaker 1: went running? Well, wait a minute, I think I think
Speaker 1: the best moment for me in that scene was when
Speaker 1: missus Kim was being when Lane was showing her into
Speaker 1: the bedroom, right, and she walked past the boys and
Speaker 1: missus Kim was still in a state of shock, and
Speaker 1: she turned around and she looked the boys up and
Speaker 1: down like what is that? Like, what are they like?
Speaker 1: She just stopped and looked and like it was just
Speaker 1: such great. She's so great, you know, really funny, Yeah,
Speaker 1: really funny stuff, all all the non verbal stuff is
Speaker 1: just so strong. Yeah, yeah, so strong. So she goes
Speaker 1: haul and ass out of there. By the way, soy pudding,
Speaker 1: I guess is a Chinese dessert. So it's like actually,
Speaker 1: like it's probably a cultural thing. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: remember they're vegan or vegetarian. They definitely are not super
Speaker 1: into turkey legs. I don't think. I think they're vegetarian.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're vegan, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: Did any really find it interesting that missus Kim ran
Speaker 1: straight to Lorela? Yes, well yeah, then I love that.
Speaker 1: Laura La like did it again and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: those boys. But she also said your daughter's not hiding
Speaker 1: anything from you, like she could very well could have.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, yeah, that is an excellent point,
Speaker 1: Like she's not hiding anything. Like she spent her entire
Speaker 1: childhood doing Like she's showing you all her cards and
Speaker 1: it's not really ashamed of it. Yeah, and she's saying
Speaker 1: she's Leane is trying so hard. Yeah, Laurelize the rock
Speaker 1: of that town as much as anybody. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 1: know for sure. Oh my god. And then Jess ended
Speaker 1: up sitting next to the guy who was like out
Speaker 1: of brands. Oh that was good doing laundry for six
Speaker 1: hundred guys. You know you need skills. Here was a
Speaker 1: good sport this episode. He totally wait, why did I
Speaker 1: write down air pants because that's what TJ said about
Speaker 1: the tights. I'm calling them air pants. That's what they
Speaker 1: should be called. The brand their pants. But they don't
Speaker 1: have any pockets. That's the downside. I thought it was
Speaker 1: very cute with Luke and Laura lyon TJ and Liz.
Speaker 1: That was just so cute. Yeah, it's nice when it
Speaker 1: comes together like that. Luke is so cute when Laura
Speaker 1: la tells the story. Oh, speaking of face acting, Scott
Speaker 1: look at Luke's face acting. So when she starts to
Speaker 1: tell the story, Luke does this face like he is
Speaker 1: so into her. Okay, here it comes, can't ready for it, Okay,
Speaker 1: so she says something like, wait till I tell this story. Okay,
Speaker 1: look at his face now, look at that? Look at that? Yes,
Speaker 1: so he's so like, I mean, it goes awry. So
Speaker 1: it's not like well because she called the book pathetic,
Speaker 1: which was mean, but his face acting in the beginning. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about you, Scott like you're not. I'm soaking
Speaker 1: it all up, kid, So just keep it coming. Face
Speaker 1: acting in the beginning. Now, what did you think of
Speaker 1: Luke's reaction to this book book stuff? I think it
Speaker 1: was more defending himself than defending Yeah, he definitely spiraled,
Speaker 1: but like I understand why. You know, like that book
Speaker 1: led to this moment moment, So don't call it pathetic
Speaker 1: because we're here now because of it. Right because the
Speaker 1: woman that he loves and wants to marry and have
Speaker 1: babies with, uh just called him pathetic in his mind?
Speaker 1: So that cut deep, Lee, Yeah, like it really had
Speaker 1: nothing just to do it. It's Jess. So for everybody listening, guys,
Speaker 1: we the show is going on our screen. Why have
Speaker 1: we not always done that? I don't know, but we
Speaker 1: should We should keep continuing. I mean that was so
Speaker 1: much easier. I don't know, brothers legal department or something.
Speaker 1: I don't he's for us anyway. I feel like this
Speaker 1: is helpful to have Jackie like pull it up. But anyway,
Speaker 1: so then we be not ready to put in the
Speaker 1: extra hours. Jackie. Yeah, we beat Bop to the bar.
Speaker 1: And now I was sort of disappointed. I was disappointed
Speaker 1: in Graham, but I also was a little disappointed in Rory.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, the same thing, what a
Speaker 1: what blanket? Can you? You don't need a drink to
Speaker 1: have fun. Let's just l Can we go before we
Speaker 1: go galloping off into the youthful pastures together? Can we
Speaker 1: stay in the stable use? Yeah, you know, I it's
Speaker 1: very nice seeing Luca laurel Um relax and be them
Speaker 1: and be there kind of best selves with the masks
Speaker 1: are off. The masks are coming off. Now you know
Speaker 1: that gruffy diner guy, we don't see him anymore. He's gone.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a hat, he doesn't have the demeanor anymore.
Speaker 1: He's listening to her, he's smiling. He's really spiraled over
Speaker 1: the book. But for the most right, But then they
Speaker 1: made you know, they made up, and yeah, it's all good.
Speaker 1: I agree, he's a different he's just and she is
Speaker 1: first of all, the book works. He had a lot
Speaker 1: of good results from the book, and so does Jess. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I just I just wanted to get that and
Speaker 1: now we can go. We're in the bar. Youthful. Graham
Speaker 1: was a letdown, and so is Rory. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just felt like she was being kind of like like,
Speaker 1: you're not you don't have to ever see him again,
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, you know, what, what did you want
Speaker 1: her to do? Hang with the guys and try or
Speaker 1: just try to have a conversation like she was just
Speaker 1: sitting by herself, like you know, and he comes over,
Speaker 1: he's being polite, he comes over, you know, she's just
Speaker 1: so yeah, she's not. Yeah, every party has a pooper,
Speaker 1: that's why. Look, I think she realized that she has
Speaker 1: real feelings for a couple of different guys, and they're
Speaker 1: very conflicting, and she's very confused, and it's almost like
Speaker 1: this paralysis. Yeah, you know, and she she just doesn't
Speaker 1: have enough rope left to give to this guy. And
Speaker 1: she's not the bar type anyway, I get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's going to the ras Skeller and chug and doing,
Speaker 1: like you agreed to go with this guy, at least
Speaker 1: try to be fun. Yeah, yeah for what for ten minutes?
Speaker 1: But she's I don't know, she's Is she really that girl?
Speaker 1: Though she's she's not. That's why it's like not that shocking,
Speaker 1: but I wish she would have at least tried a
Speaker 1: little bit tried, but atm was dicey, and she has
Speaker 1: no money, and like, make a phone call. Here's my thing.
Speaker 1: You call the guy who's all the way in stars hollow,
Speaker 1: like you couldn't call anyone closer like where, like what
Speaker 1: about like Tanna or they're gone? Yeah, but even like
Speaker 1: even at the wedding, even Emily's closer. She call Emily right,
Speaker 1: why she called him? I mean, yeah, we know why.
Speaker 1: But like she's so annoying. Yeah, I guess what's so annoying.
Speaker 1: Isn't flaw us the characters? I think she is? Well,
Speaker 1: of course not, she's not. She's not. I thank god,
Speaker 1: because all the characters are flawed and that's what makes
Speaker 1: them compelling. And now I'm seeing it, you know, I'm like, hmm.
Speaker 1: She picked up the phone and called Dean. He's married,
Speaker 1: what's going on? And she literally and she literally calls
Speaker 1: it out. I don't want to go too far ahead,
Speaker 1: but like, literally she calls that out. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you calling him? Then? My brain because because are
Speaker 1: so ingenious that they want us to be exasperated. Of course,
Speaker 1: So here's my questions. We all think it was like
Speaker 1: kind of weird she called him, right? Do we think
Speaker 1: she intentionally called him because she wanted to spend time
Speaker 1: with him, totally hook up with him. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do you think they would have kissed if Jess hadn't show.
Speaker 1: I think I think no, don't think the would have kised.
Speaker 1: It would have been a peck. I think they would
Speaker 1: have touched lips. I think she wouldn't. I think that
Speaker 1: she's still in the back of her head thinking he's
Speaker 1: with Lindsay, but she's like trying to see where she stands.
Speaker 1: I also think she likes the attention. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie like. I think she genuinely is like this guy
Speaker 1: will derive from stars Hollow to Yale to pick me
Speaker 1: up even though he's married. Like I think she like
Speaker 1: weirdly does like that, right. I think that's either a
Speaker 1: peck and then they part both uncomfortable, or it turns
Speaker 1: into a rugby match and flies. You know, I definitely
Speaker 1: think it would be interesting in an alternate universe to
Speaker 1: see what would have happened if Jess hadn't have showed up. Oh,
Speaker 1: you knew Jess was going to show up at that moment.
Speaker 1: I did not know. I didn't know that. I didn't
Speaker 1: remember that either. I saw that coming a mile away.
Speaker 1: So before we get to that, I'm getting I'm getting
Speaker 1: gilmore a sensitive. I know, I know when they're going
Speaker 1: to throw a monkey wrench. So before we get to that,
Speaker 1: we go back to the apartment and missus Kim has
Speaker 1: come back and says, I'll have tea now, and she goes,
Speaker 1: you two are girls. That was so good. That's my
Speaker 1: favorite line. And we get to a very important scene,
Speaker 1: which is Kirk is the DJ of course, which I
Speaker 1: was really happy to say, and he's playing Kajau and
Speaker 1: he says the happy couple should dance, and we get
Speaker 1: there you okay? Are we okay? And then I want
Speaker 1: you want to dance? We need to watch this part
Speaker 1: because I wrote down he is just looking at her
Speaker 1: and he's so happy, like your face acting here, yes,
Speaker 1: was like next level, I said the same. Their faces
Speaker 1: make the whole thing, okay, J So yeah, And I
Speaker 1: love how they make up. That's like a very married couple,
Speaker 1: like you just make up and he's he apologizes and
Speaker 1: like she apologizes, Like that's how couples work. Crap out.
Speaker 1: I really like that, right, And my favorite is they
Speaker 1: started off like this, oh yeah. By the end of
Speaker 1: it they were like literally like this, like so close
Speaker 1: to each other. And she's so thoughtful. She's like, your
Speaker 1: food's cold? Should we go back? And he's like, or
Speaker 1: we can? You want to dance so good? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's so cute and she's so cute. Look at her face. Yeah,
Speaker 1: look at her she's so excited because she's like you
Speaker 1: don't want it, like you never want to dance, Like
Speaker 1: I think she appreciates it too. Also, mad props to
Speaker 1: these background actors because they're so good. But anyway, look
Speaker 1: at here they go and it's like, whoa, It's just
Speaker 1: so he's playing it pretty cool for such a big moment,
Speaker 1: right he really is. Look at like so far from
Speaker 1: in the beginning. You're ready. They're good dancers, though, are
Speaker 1: you good dancer? Scott? As you look at I'm not
Speaker 1: did they teach you this? Because you guys have the
Speaker 1: same steps and waltz and she's cute dancer too. Look
Speaker 1: at his Look at his face. Oh there we go.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the smiling is so good. It's because
Speaker 1: they're like they're trying to hold back their smells too.
Speaker 1: Look at look at her. Look how gorgeous she is.
Speaker 1: Look how shy? Look at you, Look at washing, look
Speaker 1: at Luke, just like literally just can't like get take
Speaker 1: his eyes off of her. God, yeah, this is this
Speaker 1: is big, This is just these are beautiful moments. These
Speaker 1: are just beautiful good. I mean I'm seeing now like
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't believe I was a part of this.
Speaker 1: This is just so wild, so sweet, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: I don't even remember. I don't look like that anymore.
Speaker 1: And it's just it's just so first of all, yes
Speaker 1: you do, Yes, you do, you do. But I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you both but you both were young. You're she's young
Speaker 1: so much younger there too, I mean twenty years ago. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing. This podcast has really gotten
Speaker 1: me back in the gym. Oh are you watching these episodes?
Speaker 1: And like and I'm like, man, I gotta get I
Speaker 1: gotta work hard in the gym because I kind of
Speaker 1: let it go for a while because I was sick.
Speaker 1: We're all doing this, Yeah, I feel you. Twenty twenty
Speaker 1: And as soon as everybody stopped wearing hard pants, yeah,
Speaker 1: because hard pants are how you know, if you're wearing sweats,
Speaker 1: you're like the spit Fine, Yeah you're like, yeah, hard
Speaker 1: pants comes to get Rory. Yeah, Dean comes to get Rory.
Speaker 1: I did think it was funny. This was funny. First
Speaker 1: of all, she says she was on a date, which okay,
Speaker 1: But then when she says, and I realized these are
Speaker 1: the last people on Earth, I want to die StarCraft funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? Chad's the best drunk driver I've
Speaker 1: ever seen. I love that she ordered all the food
Speaker 1: on his card. I would have done the same thing, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're getting the appetizers. Say, he wasn't an ass. That's
Speaker 1: what you do to somebody that's an ass, Right, he
Speaker 1: wasn't an ass. He tried and then she yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know, because she's like, we'll start with but whatever, fine,
Speaker 1: she can. There's a couple of chinks in the Rory armor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's a little push still love her, still love her. Same, same. Okay.
Speaker 1: So then we get to the second most important scene
Speaker 1: in this episode, which is Luke and Lorelai walking and
Speaker 1: I love them recapping the night because nothing's better like
Speaker 1: than a couple that do Yeah, we're always doing that, like,
Speaker 1: oh the best the lease you you want to you
Speaker 1: want to talk about some face acting? Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so on this one, it's the end of this scene.
Speaker 1: But but I mean, you know, play the scene out,
Speaker 1: we can watch it. But oh yeah, watch him at
Speaker 1: the end when he's walking walks away and her face too,
Speaker 1: and he says, we should do it again. That was
Speaker 1: so cute and very forward, like yeah, that might go listen,
Speaker 1: see look at look at the This is the most
Speaker 1: nerve wracking part of a budding relationship, is right here,
Speaker 1: is when it goes well and you want to do
Speaker 1: it again. Look at her face, back that up. Look
Speaker 1: at what she just does. He goes, we should do
Speaker 1: it again. He's like what he's Look how nervous he is.
Speaker 1: He's so trying to be so casual and cool. Hands
Speaker 1: in his pockets. It's just like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's he's so cool because see he didn't want to
Speaker 1: go over the top with it because if she said no,
Speaker 1: he just goes, yeah, that's okay, bye, and then walk
Speaker 1: away and he's like, we should go do a movie.
Speaker 1: Movie now, got to sell himself so cool that he
Speaker 1: makes the date he says Sunday, which is like, that's
Speaker 1: one of stud they don't just leave it hanging right
Speaker 1: before you see I Like, he's like, I'll see you
Speaker 1: before that because then look at that. Look at that face. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean is that you guys or is that directed?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, that's that's her. Look at look at
Speaker 1: this reaction on her genius, You're amazing. And then look
Speaker 1: at her look at that look at that right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like really this man, it's like, what what just happened?
Speaker 1: Who is this guy? Yeah? You're exactly right. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: good face acting acting. Yes, she's so good. So then
Speaker 1: too Jess and Luke and they have their moment this
Speaker 1: is you don't want this, you don't want me to
Speaker 1: h I'm with you. This This was very moving for
Speaker 1: me too. When Jess comes around, Yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: this scene made me realize like I always have been
Speaker 1: team Jess, and this scene made me realize why because
Speaker 1: I think out of all the boyfriends, and I know
Speaker 1: we haven't gotten to Logan, but I think he's the
Speaker 1: one who really grew and like he takes accountability for
Speaker 1: himself and he knows he messed up, and he knows
Speaker 1: that he could have been better where he can be better,
Speaker 1: and I think that's like, this is this scene was
Speaker 1: why I realized I was I'm team Jess, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I don't want to say it, but
Speaker 1: like when we get to the last scene, I was
Speaker 1: a team Jess. Well we'll get there. It's it's like
Speaker 1: it's I'm welling up now watching it because it's like him,
Speaker 1: it's him apologizing to Luke, and you just feel so
Speaker 1: much for him. Look at him, Look at him, look
Speaker 1: at him. But here's the thing. And then Luca's Okay,
Speaker 1: you want it back, right, you're reading this book. You
Speaker 1: want the love back. So I'm going to tell you
Speaker 1: that I'm always here for you. Yeah, and they hug
Speaker 1: like it's like, come on in here and you can
Speaker 1: see this is what I was gonna say. You cannot
Speaker 1: tell me. You cannot tell me, the freaking tabloids cannot
Speaker 1: tell me that all y'all did not get along be
Speaker 1: in real life, I r L because you did. There's
Speaker 1: no way. Look at that. That go back to that
Speaker 1: hug What what tabloids saying. I'm saying Back in the day,
Speaker 1: they would say things like y'all didn't get along, and
Speaker 1: it's like you did, because that is not just Luke
Speaker 1: and Jess hugging. That is Milo and Scott hugging. Look
Speaker 1: at that. And Milo has told us he felt that
Speaker 1: way about you, and frankly so did Jared. Look at that.
Speaker 1: Look at that. That is two people that are completely
Speaker 1: bonded in real life and on screen, Like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: cry look at that, I mean BOTHO. What a great
Speaker 1: way for the writers to bring that book around where
Speaker 1: it's like it wasn't just about love for the opposite
Speaker 1: sex or like a significant other. It was about love
Speaker 1: for someone who you genuinely love in your life and
Speaker 1: to say it, you know, and like in their own ways,
Speaker 1: they both told each other how much they love each
Speaker 1: other in this scene. Yeah, it was so great. I
Speaker 1: love this. It's all it's all the best versions of
Speaker 1: all of these people. Like it's just really powerful to
Speaker 1: watch it. You just summed it up so well, Scott
Speaker 1: that this except for Rory. Yeah, the rest of them
Speaker 1: have really elevated, especially Jess and Luke. Yeah yeah, lor
Speaker 1: La is totally elevated, but she's fairly there most of
Speaker 1: the time to have her moments, right, um. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: you look in Rory's defense, she's very confused, confused. She's
Speaker 1: getting all of these big reactions from people, from guys,
Speaker 1: and she's but I think, I think what's cool about
Speaker 1: the show is up until I think this season, it
Speaker 1: was really all about Rory, Rory, Rory and her relationships.
Speaker 1: And then now we're taking this turn on like the
Speaker 1: relationship between like Jess and Luke, and Luke and Morali
Speaker 1: and like Emily and Richard. And so it's funny because
Speaker 1: people are always like, yeah, once you go into it,
Speaker 1: like Rory's not my favorite character. Like I know people
Speaker 1: have said that. I kind of hate to say, it's
Speaker 1: kind of showing here. Yeah, I don't dislike Rory until
Speaker 1: later what later? Definitely yeah talking No, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like you you create a love for these other characters.
Speaker 1: The moment has come, the moments at the door of
Speaker 1: the dorm, At the door of the Dorm and You're
Speaker 1: sort of like, what's going to happen here? Like you
Speaker 1: definitely could be wondering what is going to happen between
Speaker 1: Dean and Rory? Hin, you was this moment I was
Speaker 1: not going to be happy with whatever happened. But can't
Speaker 1: you feel the tension? Can you not feel the sexual
Speaker 1: tension here? I feel her young love? Yeah? Like when
Speaker 1: she asks, like, where do you think? Where does Lindsey
Speaker 1: think you are? Like, come on, he says, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: This literally like just kind of facizing on top of
Speaker 1: the cake of the argument I made last episode. Yeah, totally,
Speaker 1: because it's like she is also recognizing Rory that like's
Speaker 1: not being okay. Yeah, and Dean is it's admitting that
Speaker 1: he doesn't care. Like all of these these two guys
Speaker 1: are just so wrong right now in how they're approaching her.
Speaker 1: They're coming at her in the wrong way. Oh I
Speaker 1: do think, Oh no, no, no, no, I'm on your page, Scott. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Because Jess barrels into the
Speaker 1: apartment and says, drop everything and we'll move to New
Speaker 1: York City, and I'm like, stop, no, right right, you
Speaker 1: could have had a nice talk with her you could
Speaker 1: have you could have built rebuilt the relations this differently. Yes,
Speaker 1: he stopped rushing into the result and just correct, But
Speaker 1: we can't expect him to become No, I understand that,
Speaker 1: but it was frustrating to watch because I've never seen
Speaker 1: him more vulnerable and be so so roundly rejected it.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's because Dean was standing right there,
Speaker 1: like if Dean wasn't standing there. Do you think this
Speaker 1: conversation on differently? That's a good point. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: very good point because he probably felt that those two
Speaker 1: were reconnecting in him, like he's fired up. I had
Speaker 1: to hit the fast forward button. That's a very good point.
Speaker 1: Very good he felt when he gets there and it's
Speaker 1: this guy. I guess it's like six fan was married though,
Speaker 1: good walking out. The one thing I liked that Rory
Speaker 1: did here was she told Dean to go home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like Dean go home. But I have like a little
Speaker 1: bit of a revelation with this whole scene. I feel
Speaker 1: like Dean is like so in love with Rory and
Speaker 1: loves the world that she has and aspires to be
Speaker 1: that way. And Jess loves Rory too. However, he does
Speaker 1: not like the world that she's in, so like they
Speaker 1: both want her, but in different ways. And I think
Speaker 1: Rory just wants somebody who's at her level and loves her,
Speaker 1: doesn't want to change their world to be with her.
Speaker 1: Like does that make sense? Is it? No? No? Because
Speaker 1: love is you know, Look, it's compromised. And if Jess Jesse.
Speaker 1: I don't think Jess doesn't want to be in her world.
Speaker 1: I think Jess knows he can't handle that world and
Speaker 1: he's constantly going to be ridiculed and judged behind his
Speaker 1: back in that world because of his insecurities. He's not
Speaker 1: ready yet to enter that world. I think he does
Speaker 1: love her, Yeah, showed up. He's still not mature enough
Speaker 1: to deal with, you know, accepting her world and where
Speaker 1: she comes from and existing within that world. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's possible for him. He's one of those guys
Speaker 1: that wants to take her out of her world and
Speaker 1: informed their own world and then and I mean there's
Speaker 1: a level of manipulation in narcissism here, because he just
Speaker 1: wants to push everybody out of her world that she's
Speaker 1: familiar with so that he can have her, right, do you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think she should have said that that last. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think she should have I think, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think I think because that's not what she wants.
Speaker 1: So why why would she keep leading him on like
Speaker 1: I was, Actually I don't know that she doesn't want him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well she doesn't want this for version of a guy
Speaker 1: des correct, that's very true. She doesn't want this, and
Speaker 1: she doesn't want to run away to New York, like,
Speaker 1: that's not what she wants to get Yale, right, she
Speaker 1: wants Jess to be. She wants Dean and Jess combined.
Speaker 1: He you know, you know, Jess is just in a
Speaker 1: completely another reality right now. He's not like you're seeing
Speaker 1: that she's in college. She's in Yale. She's got a
Speaker 1: future ahead of her. And it's he needs to change. Ye,
Speaker 1: he needs to grow up. He needs to get in school,
Speaker 1: maybe because he's he's a bright kid, right, he's the
Speaker 1: one that needs to sort of join the human race somewhat.
Speaker 1: And and here I go again, Here I go again,
Speaker 1: needs to needs to get his school. I literally just
Speaker 1: like gotch hit, Like my whole body was filled with
Speaker 1: just chills when he was like, only tell me no
Speaker 1: if you don't want to be And then I thought
Speaker 1: she shouldn't have said no. I think what she should
Speaker 1: have done to say, let me we talk, let me
Speaker 1: think about it. Yeah, the final no was a little
Speaker 1: but he wasn't giving her a chance to say, let
Speaker 1: me think about it because he was just so aggressive
Speaker 1: and you know, we're gonna go now. You know. It's
Speaker 1: like he was like a Springsteen song, We're gonna blow
Speaker 1: this down and run. You know, It's like Jesus. I
Speaker 1: think I just felt for him a little bit coming
Speaker 1: off of his conversation with Luke though, Like I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's in the right, but I just can't I agree. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I felt bad because I think he's he has come
Speaker 1: to the realization that he made some mistakes and he
Speaker 1: does love this person and he's going to try to
Speaker 1: show up for her. Yes, that because he wasn't doing that, however,
Speaker 1: a little too late, boy like you. Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 1: Everybody in her life, in a romantic life is just
Speaker 1: like a daylight and a dollar short man. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that final no no. But I'm I am. I'm happy
Speaker 1: that she said no. Ug I wanted her to say yes.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I want her to like, I want
Speaker 1: her to think about it. Yeah, that's what she That's
Speaker 1: what she did, though her saying no was cutting time.
Speaker 1: I want her to do that, Like she needs to
Speaker 1: cut ties off with Dean and tell him to go home,
Speaker 1: and she needs to tell Jess no because what he
Speaker 1: wants is not what she wants. So like I wanted
Speaker 1: her to do that so that she can also move on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not team Jess, but I'm definitely not team Dean.
Speaker 1: So this opens up this really really is opening up
Speaker 1: a huge runway for a Logan Logan Airlines to fly
Speaker 1: in and pick up. It's like, and there's this these
Speaker 1: there's these couple of little planes flying around having trouble
Speaker 1: landing and getting passengers, and then this beautiful jet flight.
Speaker 1: First of all, you know, do you think you are
Speaker 1: so right? Do you think it would have been interesting?
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this after I watched the episode.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been interesting if like Logan was at
Speaker 1: the bar that night. Well, so I love you, so
Speaker 1: I literally love it because to me, Graham Sullivan was
Speaker 1: dipping our toe. Yeah that's why that's very true. And
Speaker 1: I'm actually looking right now. That's sort of cock shore confident,
Speaker 1: you know, privileged guy I don't. I don't know that
Speaker 1: Amy Sherman Palladino was not doing that, and that Teddy
Speaker 1: Dunn just wasn't quite right. And look he went on
Speaker 1: to be Veronica. We've seen Logan. Mind, so Logan, we
Speaker 1: know Logan goes No, we've never never, not Matt Zugreen
Speaker 1: ever been in this. Did not Did I fall asleep
Speaker 1: during one of my viewings? No, no, I'm wrong. I'm
Speaker 1: a singer. I don't want to be No, no, I'm
Speaker 1: speaking for some reason. I thought it was at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the semester, but I think now I'm skipping season.
Speaker 1: In your own mind, in your own mind, you're seeing him,
Speaker 1: I am, yeah, you are, I know, yes, we actually
Speaker 1: that's what I was looking up. I don't think we
Speaker 1: get Logan. Don't tell me, don't tell don't tell me.
Speaker 1: My headphones off, don't tell me. Thank you, future information person,
Speaker 1: thank you. It's it's it's soon. Okay, that's Scott with
Speaker 1: his headphone. Man. So, yeah, so I'm a little bit
Speaker 1: nervous about Max. I'm a little nervous too. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And and and apparently it even gets better than this one.
Speaker 1: How is that possible? It unlivable, unbelievable. Um, well, I uh,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm completely uh in awe of this show right now.
Speaker 1: Just it's firing. I mean it's not just firing on
Speaker 1: all cylinders. It's like it's stealing all the cylinders from
Speaker 1: everybody else and firing on those two. Um, so it's
Speaker 1: it's wow. And also I don't have to love everything
Speaker 1: these characters do to love the episode, right right, Like
Speaker 1: I can be mad at a bunch of people but
Speaker 1: still ten out of ten. Yeah, And like how how
Speaker 1: pissy can you be with a eighteen year old freshman
Speaker 1: in college? I mean, she's gonna have some flaws, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, she's still a great kid, and she's totally
Speaker 1: you know, Um, people can be real mean to Rory. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you think they're mean to us? Well, she kind of
Speaker 1: deserves it right now. Sorry, in this moment, she give
Speaker 1: her the hate rarely. We'll be back after these words
Speaker 1: from compassion ink from Federal question for us, but season five,
Speaker 1: who is the least flawed character of all of them?
Speaker 1: The least flawed? Yeah, you don't have to answer. Next,
Speaker 1: I'd say, teach, it has no flaws. He's just who
Speaker 1: he is. Pants are you saying about season four or
Speaker 1: season five. I'm saying this season, in season four, who
Speaker 1: is the least flawed? But you don't have to answer today.
Speaker 1: We probably Kurt get to see because he's the most flawed,
Speaker 1: so therefore canceled everything out. He's the least like Suki.
Speaker 1: She's flawed. She definitely was flawed. Remember when the whole
Speaker 1: Laurels Suki fight happened. I'm not totally blaming Laurel on that. Suki.
Speaker 1: I don't know. If I had to say, like, if
Speaker 1: I had an answer right now, I would say Luke
Speaker 1: because he's always consistent with who he is, Like he
Speaker 1: doesn't really waver from that, but he's got flaws in
Speaker 1: that he doesn't always open. No, no, no, you didn't
Speaker 1: hear Danielle is you didn't hear what just Danielle said
Speaker 1: that he doesn't have any he is who he is.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I can't hear. I hear I just
Speaker 1: Justinian like he he everyone's flowers. But I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: he is always consistent what he is. I don't know,
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe the question should be rephrased, who is
Speaker 1: the character who is the most aware of their flaws?
Speaker 1: And accepts them. That is probably Luke, Luke M see
Speaker 1: that's maybe maybe Luke. Yeah, that's probably who has who
Speaker 1: has the least seem to be aware? Who who? Never
Speaker 1: mind never mind who was the least amount of blind spots.
Speaker 1: I was wrong because I said Emily. But she's not
Speaker 1: aware of her flaws. She just doesn't give a yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like unraveling. Oops, Danielle are bleeding? Wow, sorry my
Speaker 1: virgin ears. So are we all doing ten out of ten? Or?
Speaker 1: What do we say? Yeah? I think we should do
Speaker 1: our own. Yeah we should. We should contain knew that
Speaker 1: the tradition of doing our own. So, Tara, how many
Speaker 1: points are you giving your own measuring stick? What is
Speaker 1: your measuring stick? But trying to think I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: it ten turkey legs, ten turkey legs. Nice, I was
Speaker 1: gonna give it turkular. You gotta come up something different.
Speaker 1: We cannot repeat the measurement. I will give it ten
Speaker 1: TJ tights, airpans, airpans, tjirpants, ten bowls of soy pudding,
Speaker 1: ten balls junkie like she likes something, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it, uh ten dark suits, ten shoe
Speaker 1: polishes and used ten flowers, ten funky deodorants. We should
Speaker 1: have all worn flower crome. Yeah, miss opportunity, you need
Speaker 1: an excuse for a flower? I have one? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: why didn't you wear it? I forgot though, So I
Speaker 1: think so, I think for the loyal viewer, which most
Speaker 1: viewers are. Uh. This episode is a culmination of so
Speaker 1: many storylines coming to Fruition and just beautifully beautifully written, episode,
Speaker 1: beautifully directed. I think Chris Long directed this. I remember
Speaker 1: Chris terrific guy, terrific energy on set um And if
Speaker 1: you're listening, Chris Messiah, come on up and do an
Speaker 1: episode of my news. Oh my gosh, for a second,
Speaker 1: I thought he died the way he said Long, But
Speaker 1: he died. No, no, no, no, because you're all miss
Speaker 1: you like, oh no no. I was like, oh no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. Um just just I mean, what a wonderful,
Speaker 1: wonderful viewing. Like would you want to direct an episode
Speaker 1: of like Sullivan's Crossing? You know you never say no? Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I'm not Canadian, so I can't direct that show.
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Is that true? Only or can hire
Speaker 1: Canadian directors And there's plenty of great ones. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: great ones. There's some very very talented folks up there,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, very impressive. Um, how are we going
Speaker 1: to get like the episodes of Sullivan's crossing that will
Speaker 1: be that will be revealed? Okay, okay, do you know
Speaker 1: anybody that works on the show? Though maybe you could
Speaker 1: get a little inside well I do, Oh sure that's
Speaker 1: not going to happen. Sorry, there's good news is yes
Speaker 1: on the way. So anyway, okay, wonderful. And I'm very
Speaker 1: nervous about next week. I actually I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I'm nervous, right, yeah, I am, Yeah, I am nervous.
Speaker 1: I'm nervous. I'm nervous for Danielle. I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to watch this one twice before we talk about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna need to walk watch it like right
Speaker 1: before we talk about it, because otherwise I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: something I'm watch watching the night before and then the
Speaker 1: day off. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. If we don't do
Speaker 1: it too early, because I don't want to get up
Speaker 1: at eight and be watching. Although I do like this
Speaker 1: time thing. I feel like we an episode. Okay, good morning,
Speaker 1: It's like lorealized sitting at Luke's front door at five A. Yeah, right, Han,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I'm watching a Gilmore Girls episode.
Speaker 1: What do you think I've done? Actually, we've got for
Speaker 1: people listening, there may be some break in pattern here
Speaker 1: because we've got a bunch of guests we want to
Speaker 1: get in. So just stick with us because this is
Speaker 1: gonna be We've got We've got a bunch of guess
Speaker 1: we got to get in before we do the next upide.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of happening, So everybody just all right, everybody?
Speaker 1: So I think that's going to wrap it up. Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, hang on, crack staff, Oh almost forgot cracked.
Speaker 1: Oh no, put it in pop culture? Remember you want
Speaker 1: to put it? Okay, I have an idea. Let's put
Speaker 1: it in pop culture. That's a that's a good. Next
Speaker 1: episode of season four, episode twenty two, Raincoats and Recipes,
Speaker 1: that's gonna for the season finale is going to be
Speaker 1: our next podcast. Boy, it's going It may not be
Speaker 1: our next but it will be soon our next episode,
Speaker 1: our next recap. Oh yeah, that's Scot's like, what is happening?
Speaker 1: What is going on here? Because we have a bunch
Speaker 1: of bag Gracie having oar slice Uh. Hi kids, Thank you, Tara,
Speaker 1: thank you Danielle, thank you Amy. Uh what an episode huh.
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