1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: Welcome back in our number three Monday edition Clay Travis 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 2: Buck Sexton Show. Buck is out with his family already 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving. I'm with you here today, will be with 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: you tomorrow. Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: Many of you out on the roads and in the 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: skies traveling to be with your friends and family on 9 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving week, including my own family, and so I want 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: all you to be safe and I want you to 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: be able to take us with you wherever you may be. 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: Big news out there. We knew it was coming, but 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: it's happened in the last few minutes. We'll play some 14 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: audio for you a bit later. Jack Smith has dropped 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: all of the charges against Donald Trump in the Washington 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: d c. 17 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: Case as well. 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: Now South Florida done your federal government's attempt. Joe Biden's 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: federal government Department of Justice attempt to put his chief 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: political rival Donald Trump in prison for the rest of 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: his life has officially gone up in smoke. It's a 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: huge story and it goes to the election itself in 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, which the math just ain't math. And on 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: Joe Biden getting eighty one million votes in my always 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: humble opinion. But we are joined now by a guy 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: who I've watched for years. He is former Georgia and 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: NFL football star David Pollock. He has got a brand 28 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: new book out. I appreciate him coming on with us 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: right now. And I'm curious. You played college football and 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: you played in the NFL. David, what's your take on 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: the Trump dance that you are seeing athletes everywhere but 32 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: particular high school, college and NFL players break out? 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: What does it represent? Does it mean anything to you? 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: It's fantastic. That's number one. I literally looked over play 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: in the kitchen yesterday and my son was doing it. 36 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: My son and he was there in the kitchen and 37 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: he was just rocking back in and I just started laughing. 38 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: But now I think it's you know, listen, players absolutely 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 3: know what's going on. It's not by accident. Players don't 40 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 3: do things just by accident, don't do things that they've 41 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: seen as they don't know what it means, especially nowadays. 42 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: Now some of us big dumb animals from back in 43 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: the day, we might have done that, but now you know, 44 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: whatever you do is looked at, and you're obviously going 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: to be reposted all over the place. So obviously there 46 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: is one hundred percent a support message there and a 47 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: funny message, and I think it's pretty cool by the 48 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: guys that are doing it. 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: Do you ever think about what your life would have 50 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: been like, or what your teammate's life would have been 51 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: like if social media as it exists today had existed 52 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: when you were on the University of Georgia's campus. 53 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have thought about it, and I'm like, man, 54 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: that would have been miserable. Yeah, because you know, as 55 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: an athlete, you just try, you know, so hard to 56 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: kind of get away from things sometimes, and you know, 57 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: the camera phone pandemic started, you know, kind of in 58 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: that time for us, and you're like, holy cow. And 59 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 3: so then you have the video phone and now social 60 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: and I just think, you know, these players, man, it's 61 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: hard for them to find places to get away, you know, 62 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: from all the drama, all the talking about the same 63 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 3: sport over and over again, and so I understand the frustration. 64 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 3: I think it would have been. It'd have been interesting 65 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: how I handled it. I know it would have been 66 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: a train wreck. It would have been an absolute train wreck, 67 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: because what you don't know is what you don't know. 68 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: And I think some of the kids you see that 69 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 3: they're starting to grow up with this, and I think 70 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: that matters, like that's a big deal, Like they've kind 71 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: of been coached and know I'm a high school football coach, 72 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to tell these kids, like you can't 73 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: put something on there that if you expect this not 74 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: to live there, like it's gonna live forever. I remember 75 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: being to the draft a couple of years ago with 76 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: not a couple years I'm getting old, but like several 77 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: years ago with Josh Allen and his tweet pops up 78 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: the day before the draft, and nobody's talked about that 79 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: in years, right, But it's something he sent out and 80 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: I think he was like fifteen years old. And everything 81 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: you know will stick with you, and so they're definitely 82 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: learning those lessons. 83 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: You've got a new book out that won't quit. Kid, 84 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: you just mentioned that your co ching high school football. 85 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: Why so I got a bunch of things that I 86 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: want to dive into here with you. But you're younger 87 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: than me. But you were just talking about your son. 88 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: I've got three boys. A big part of the storyline 89 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: of the Trump election, and we were just talking about 90 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: the Trump dance is young men, and I'm sure you 91 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: see it coaching them in high school football just feel 92 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: profoundly alienated from larger society. They're not graduating at the 93 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: same levels as women. They're not having the same levels 94 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: of success. Why do you think so many young men 95 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: boys really are struggling? 96 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think you know boys in their 97 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: identity and who they are, and obviously the maturity level, 98 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 3: Like we've talked about this for a long time, the 99 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: maturity level of boys, it takes a little bit longer. 100 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: I mean, we don't quite grow up as fast as girls. 101 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 3: And I think you see that. But I think you 102 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 3: see a lot too. I'm around a bunch of these kids, man, 103 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 3: Like a lot of them they say college. No, I 104 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 3: mean absolutely not, Like I want to start making money 105 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 3: and learn on the job while I'm learning a trade. 106 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: And so you know, I think you see a lot 107 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: of that too. A lot of kids now instead of 108 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 3: you know, feeling like back in the day, we felt 109 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 3: like we had to go get education, like that was 110 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: the next step, that was a necessary step that your 111 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: parents told you you needed to take. And now I 112 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: think that you're seeing business can be run one hundred 113 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: million percent without a degree, and it's hard to keep 114 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: them focused because a lot of them care about sports 115 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: and that's about it. And you're like, well, you know, 116 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 3: school comes with sports. If you want to play sports 117 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: long term, you got to do your school work. So 118 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: I think the ability to go make a living pretty 119 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: quickly out of high school and be very successful without 120 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: a degree is open to them. 121 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: Now, you mentioned how many kids, and I think it's huge. 122 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: It's why I fought so hard for schools not to 123 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: shut down boys in particular, but also a lot of girls. 124 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: But let's talk boys here for a sec A lot 125 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: of sports I always tell my kids, and I try 126 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: to tell I've coached youth league now for a lot 127 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: of those kids. A lot of my kidkids and other 128 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 2: kids try to teach them, hey, use the ball, don't 129 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: let the ball use you. And that's an important message 130 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: because a lot of guys out there, especially the more 131 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: talented they are, can get used up by the system 132 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: and not be able to get the benefit of their 133 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: athletic talent when they just focus on athletics. How much 134 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: of that have you've seen and how do you try 135 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: to talk to your guys. You had tremendous success. You're 136 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 2: an All American College Football Hall of Famer, went on 137 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: first round draft pick, played for the Cincinnati Bengals. Football 138 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: has been a lot to you. But for most kids, 139 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: that's not the pathway they're going to have. How do 140 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: you teach them that sports is a path to future 141 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: life success? Not for most of them, what future life 142 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: success is actually going to look? 143 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: Like, I mean, that's the whole point of Like sport 144 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: is the greatest teacher. Like I me and my wife 145 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: all the time talk growing up with our kids, like 146 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: how do we create adversity, how do we make it 147 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: a little bit harder for them? We live in a 148 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: great neighborhood, we live in a great county. They don't struggle, 149 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 3: And so I think that's why I think sport is 150 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: so important, because these kids can struggle at something they 151 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: can win, they can lose. They can lose because of 152 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: a teammate, they can lose because of them, Like, they 153 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: can try their harders and just not be good enough. 154 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: Like these are all lessons that we need in life, right, 155 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: Like we've got to face the facts at some point 156 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: that life is gonna be hard, like life is gonna 157 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: hit us in the mouth sometimes and it's gonna win, 158 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: and there's gonna be circumstances we can't control. Last night, 159 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: at the dinner table with my son, we're sitting there talking. 160 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: He's like, everybody uses chat GBT for their tests, and 161 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: we got a sub for the next couple of weeks, 162 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: and they just keep they just keep using it for 163 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: their tests and they're getting you know, ninety fives or hundreds, 164 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: and like, I'm not I'm not cheating it. I'm getting 165 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: an eighty five. And we're like, okay, well what do 166 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: you think about that? And I'm like, well, I'd love 167 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 3: to get chat GBT on my phone. And I'm like, no, no, no, 168 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: that's not the lesson we're trying to learn, buddy. He's like, 169 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: we're trying to teach you you got to do what's right, 170 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: you know, and and accept those things that you will 171 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: always get ahead if you do the things that are right. 172 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: So I think sports will show you like you're not 173 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: always gonna be the best just because you work the 174 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: hardest or because you tried real hard. I think, you know, 175 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: we're teaching I always want to teach my kids like 176 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: you control your attitude and your effort. Like that's it. 177 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: Like we can't control whether we win, we can't control 178 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: whether we lose, but we can't control if we're going 179 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: to be a great teammate and try as hard as 180 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: we can and have a lot of joy while doing it. 181 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: And that's what I see, Clay, that really drives me nuts. 182 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: Across the country, some of these coaches, man, they rip 183 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: the joy out of youth league sports. Like these kids 184 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: are quitting at a higher rate because it's been It 185 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: hasn't been a kid's game for a while. They've been 186 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: playing a game that's been super hard since middle school, 187 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: and they've been so demanding and making them do this 188 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 3: and making them run all over the place and take 189 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: take car trips all over the place. When I think, 190 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: if we can keep it fun and work as hard 191 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: as you can and have a good attitude, like I 192 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: think we'd have a lot more success with it. 193 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: I think that's important. 194 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: We got a lot of dads and moms out there 195 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: that are driving all over the place because their kids 196 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: are in club sports, whatever that sport may be, and 197 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: sometimes that can burn out not only the kid, but 198 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: also the parent because it's a lot of work to 199 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: be going on over the place instead of playing in 200 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: your neighborhood little league game. Suddenly you're traveling all over 201 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: the state. Some people are going all over the country. 202 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: What do you think's ideal? You're a pro athlete. How 203 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: are you raising your own kids when it comes to 204 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: competing and playing sports. 205 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: Well, one thing that I've seen is it really doesn't 206 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 3: matter what team you're on. Like I didn't have a 207 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 3: personal trainers, Like I didn't have a personal weightlifting coach. 208 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 3: I ride my bike around the neighborhood. God gave me 209 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: a big legs and big butt and a tenacity and 210 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: a want to do great and so like that was 211 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 3: the reason I went there. Like I'm with so many parents. 212 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: I was with one this morning, and they talk about scheduling. 213 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: They've got to go here and they've got to go there. 214 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, you don't have to be on that team, Like, 215 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 3: pick a team that fits your family schedule and what 216 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 3: you want. Like churches are non negotiable in our household, 217 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: Like we're going to go to church, So we're not 218 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: going to travel all over God's Green Earth and mix 219 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: church because I want to show my kids that church 220 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 3: is more important sport that is more important than sport. 221 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: And so for us, we found out we find a 222 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: lot of local tournaments. Are they as good, absolutely not. 223 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 3: But what we did was we just played up a 224 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: little bit, like if we wanted more competition, we played 225 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: up a couple grade levels and it wasn't elite, but 226 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 3: we got beat and we played better competition. And you know, 227 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: my son and daughter are getting older now and play 228 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: There's plenty of things that I did wrong that I 229 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: would love to do better. That's part of the reason 230 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: why I wrote the book. But I think one of 231 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: the things we did really well was we don't have 232 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: to travel all over the place, like you can find 233 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: local places to enjoy it. You can make it fun, 234 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 3: like don't drag your kids to make them practice. Like yes, 235 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: encourage them and show up every time that they ask you. 236 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 3: But like if you're making it and you're just deciding 237 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: they need to do X, Y and Z, like they're 238 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 3: never going to adopt their own journey. And I'd argue, 239 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: when they adopt it as their own journey and they 240 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: want to do it and they're asking you to do it, 241 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: they're going to have more fun. And when they have 242 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: more fun, I think they have a better chance to 243 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: be successful. That's what I noticed when I got to Georgia. 244 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: So many players there. They were ranked way higher than me, 245 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 3: but they were like this, I'm so tired of this crap. 246 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 3: And I'm like, really, I'm like, we get to work out, 247 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: we get to practice. And I remember, you know, them 248 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 3: going going to practice in the in the mornings, and 249 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: we were there, like I remember Thanksgiving breaking. They're like, 250 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: we don't get to go home. I'm like, guys, we 251 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: got nothing else to do, Like we literally get to 252 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 3: play football, Like we get to do this. And so 253 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: I think sport has gone crazy because sport is a 254 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: money maker. Youth league sports is about making money. Travel 255 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: ball is about making money, and I think we keep 256 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: buying into that live that the team depends on where 257 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: your kid's future is, and that's not the truth. 258 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: Talking to David Pollock ESPN, He's been all over the place, 259 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: University of Georgia, Cincinnati, Bengal College Football Hall of Famer. 260 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: You mentioned the book, encourage people to check it out, 261 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: The Won't Quit Kid. You also have the Pollock Family Foundation, 262 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 2: you run with your wife and kids. What should people 263 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: know about both those? The Foundation and the book here 264 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: as we're Thanksgiving week, I imagine there's a lot of 265 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: messages that you want to get out through both. 266 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I think the book talks directly to what 267 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: we just talked about, and we talk about like kids 268 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 3: are quitting at a higher rate. It's sixty percent now 269 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: of kids that start sports when they're younger quit by thirteen. 270 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 3: And if we're gonna use those lessons man and build 271 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 3: those you know, there's the resilience inside of our kids, 272 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: Like we want them to play sports, and we want 273 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: them to go out there and challenge themselves and do 274 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 3: hard things like so they can handle hard like Hart 275 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: is coming for our kids. At some point, it's gonna 276 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: get difficult. We can, we can make it as easy 277 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: as possible while they're with us, but at some point, 278 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: life's gonna hit them really hard. And I think that 279 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: was the book. It's about a kid loves football, man 280 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: and wants to play, but he goes out there and 281 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: it's it's hot, and it's hard, and it hurts, and 282 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 3: that's what life's gonna be. It's gonna hurt, and it's 283 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna be hot, it's gonna be hard and 284 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 3: so teaching it how to approach, like, hey, let's just 285 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: have a great practice today and have a good attitude 286 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 3: and do the best you can. And so that's the 287 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: premise of the book that I hope everybody gets from 288 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: it when they read it. And then our foundation, Man, 289 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: it's really been fun since since I've been since I 290 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: got fired, that I've had so much more time. And 291 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: you know, out of that came the Banquet of Blessings 292 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 3: and we actually had a last night play. We served 293 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 3: a thousand people in downtown Athens. It was so cool. 294 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: We busting a bunch of the homeless from the shelters 295 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 3: around and everybody came in and every single person got 296 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: served at absolute ceased throw down dessert, coffee, the whole nine. 297 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 3: And then everybody that was there got to go through 298 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 3: a line and they got a brand new coat and 299 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: a scarf and mittens and gloves and socks and all 300 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: like kid's books and they got hygiene packs and book 301 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: backs for them, book backs for their kids. So it 302 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: was just it's a cool thing that we've seen with 303 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: our community. Man, there's a lot of people out there 304 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: that are in some bad spots and we're trying to 305 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 3: help out as much as we can because we know we're, 306 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: for one, you know, decision away from being in there, 307 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: and so I think that's what we're trying to do 308 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: in the Athens communities kind of meet a bunch of 309 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 3: these kids and these families where they're at and try 310 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 3: to help them. 311 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 2: You just mentioned something there that's important. I've been fired 312 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: several times. I imagine a lot of people out there 313 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: have been fired as well. What was that like for you? 314 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: And what you just said that there is a blessing 315 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: sometimes that comes with being fired. I think it's an 316 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: important message, particularly in Thanksgiving time where so many people 317 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 2: are worried and you have a job and then you 318 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: have that moment where suddenly you don't What was that 319 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: like for you? 320 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 3: I think the first reaction is always like oh my gosh, like, 321 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: oh crap, what am I going to do next? And 322 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: I think first reaction is usually kind of a fight, 323 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: you know, a fight or flight mentality, and you figure 324 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: out like what do I need to do? But the 325 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: thing it's done for me is it's been really cool 326 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: because you know, you kind of get on a bike 327 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 3: in life and you just start riding and then I 328 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: think a lot of times you ride and you end 329 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: up down the road, you know, twenty five minutes, and 330 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: then twenty five minutes turns into twenty five years, you know, 331 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: doing the same thing, and you kind of forget about 332 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: the art of the possible. And that's what's been really 333 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: cool to me. It's just a dream Clay. If you'd 334 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: have told me I was an author, I have slapped you. 335 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: I've been like, absolutely hot. I am not sitting down. 336 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a dumb defensive player. I'm not sitting 337 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: down and concentrating enough to do that. And so that's 338 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: been fun. And then speaking and just you know, coaching 339 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: high school football, coaching I coach girls harsh high school 340 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 3: varsity basketball, like women's it's fantastic, it's unbelievable. And so 341 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: I think what's cool is you get a chance to 342 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: really assess when you get fired, what brings me joy, Like, 343 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: what really wakes me up man and excites me? And 344 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: if you can find something like that, I think that's 345 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: where that's where God wants you to be, Like, find 346 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: those find those avenues in those areas that excite you. 347 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: And sometimes it's not always going to be where the 348 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 3: money is. And a lot of people are gonna look 349 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: at that and that's not success. But but I would 350 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: argue differently. Man, When you when you really feel good 351 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: about what you do and you get to pay bills 352 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: and you get to pursue something that you know fills 353 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: your tank, I think it's really fun. And that's that's 354 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: been a cool thing about. 355 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: Now. 356 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: I'm home all the time with my babies, plugget plubglic, 357 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 3: plugging in as much as possible and able to support them. 358 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: Good stuff as always, man, I appreciate it. We need 359 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: to talk longer sometime. The book The Won't Quick Kid. 360 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: Encourage you to check it out, David Pollock, and keep 361 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: doing the good work with the Pollock Family Foundation as well. 362 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: And good luck to you and your family for this 363 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving week. 364 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely thanks, thank you very much and happy Thanksgiving. 365 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: Same to you, David Pollock. 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Tell them Clay sent you 414 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 2: a best deal on subscription for life chalk dot Com. 415 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: My name Clay. 416 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: Buck is out with his family for Thanksgiving week. I'll 417 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 2: be with you the rest of today and tomorrow solo. 418 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: Julie Kelly about to join me, But if you happen 419 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 2: to be watching NBC. About an hour ago, they broke 420 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: into programming with this announcement. 421 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: Listen, this is an NBC News special report. Here's Lester 422 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: holt Go. Today. 423 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 4: We're coming on the early breaking news about President elect 424 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 4: Donald Trump. The Justice Department Special counsel Jack Smith just 425 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 4: filed a motion to dismiss the federal criminal case against 426 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: the President elect over his efforts to overturn the twenty 427 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 4: twenty election results. The news comes after NBC News learned 428 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 4: the Justice Department had been planning to wind down its 429 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 4: federal cases against mister Trump. It also comes as NBC 430 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: News learn that's Smith and his team plan to resign 431 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: before mister Trump returns to the White House. 432 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: All right, that was in BC. 433 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: We bring in now Julie Kelly, who has been right 434 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: on everything on with us for years. Julie, what do 435 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: you think before we get into what's coming next? What 436 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 2: do you think so many people out there who were told, oh, 437 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: Trump's going to go to prison for the rest of 438 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: his life. Oh my goodness, he had no right to 439 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: do any of this. Supreme Court has come out and said, actually, 440 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 2: much of this was occurring within his presidential authority. I 441 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: think that's an important precedent that they've set, whether you're 442 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 2: a Democratic, Republican or independent. And now Jack Smith is 443 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: like a rat on a sinking ship that's scurrying to 444 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 2: try to get on a lifeboat. I mean, this is 445 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: pretty extraordinary to see all of this just come spiraling 446 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: down around him. 447 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: What happens next? 448 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 5: It really is Clay. I mean, we could not have 449 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 5: and a better ending to this story and the years 450 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 5: that we have discussed the January sixth prosecution. Of course, 451 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 5: two years of covering Special Counsel Jack Smith. What a 452 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 5: humiliating end deserving end, of course, we have to say 453 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 5: for Jack Smith and his team of prosecutorial thugs in 454 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 5: Florida and in Washington. But let's pause for a moment 455 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 5: that NBC News broke into programming. This is the sort 456 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 5: of stuff that used to be reserved for, like you know, 457 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 5: if a president was shot or we went to war, 458 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 5: not because a corrupt prosecutor was forced to drop a 459 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 5: week fourcount indictment against the former and incoming president. If 460 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 5: this reflects the media's obsession with this and how much 461 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 5: it means to them, how devastating it is to the 462 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 5: regime media and Democrats that this is over. So again, 463 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 5: Jack Smith today filing in Washington dropping dismissing the FORETN 464 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 5: indictment against the president related to the events of January sixth. 465 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 5: In July, judging Leen Cannon already dismissed that indictment and 466 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 5: that jurisdiction for you know, the alleged classified documents case. 467 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 5: So now both of these cases are dead letters for now. 468 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 5: I have to note that in his last dirty trick, 469 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 5: Jack Smith moved to dismiss the Washington case without prejudice. 470 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 5: That means Clay, you know this as an attorney. That 471 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 5: means they sort of reserve it. They kind of you know, 472 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 5: dismiss it, but somebody could bring it back to life later. 473 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 5: If you dismiss it with prejudice, it means it's overdone. 474 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 5: No one can recescocate the case. So he's still trying 475 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 5: to cling to the belief that this week four account 476 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 5: indictment that was gutted by the Supreme Court after its 477 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 5: community growing in July somehow is still legitimate. And oh, 478 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 5: except for the fact that he was elected, we would 479 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 5: have moved forward with us and won. He would not have. 480 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 5: So now it's time to turn the tables. As we've 481 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 5: talked about, Jack Smith and his team must be investigated, 482 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 5: and this must happen, must happen by a COMCYOJ and 483 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 5: Republicans in the House and Senate. You need accountability for 484 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 5: what has been done here, for the lives that have 485 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 5: been told to the American people, and to make sure 486 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,239 Speaker 5: that these bad actors are held accountable and so this 487 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 5: never happens again to a Republican or a Democrat President. 488 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: Julie, I think it's important now that the full accounting 489 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: from twenty twenty four to three weeks later is done 490 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: to remember what was the impetus behind much of these 491 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 2: charges was a belief that Joe Biden didn't get eighty 492 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: one million legal votes. Now that we have seen twenty 493 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: sixteen and twenty twenty and twenty twenty four in their totality, 494 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: Kamala got seven million less votes than Joe Biden did. 495 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: Does the math add up to you. 496 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: I'm telling everybody out there today, the math doesn't add 497 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 2: up to me. Does anybody actually still believe that Joe 498 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: Biden got eighty one million legitimate votes? 499 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I think Joe Biden knows so his. 500 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: Brain doesn't his brain doesn't work. But I mean, I mean, Julie, 501 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: like I wanted to withhold is. I wanted to see 502 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: what happened in twenty twenty four, and I wanted to 503 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: see the full tally. I didn't want to jump out 504 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: the day after and be like, oh, Kamla got eleven 505 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: million less votes or whatever the taally was. We got 506 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: three weeks of counting, she's going to be seven million behind. 507 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: I think a big part of this is suddenly I 508 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: think people are going to be able to put their 509 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 2: heads up and say, yeah, I don't know that the 510 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: math adds. 511 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 5: Up here absolutely correct. And I think that graph that 512 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 5: was going around a few days after election day was 513 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 5: really shocking and illuminating, you know, the bar graph as 514 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 5: to what the vote totals were in twenty sixteen, then 515 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 5: this huge fight in twenty twenty for Democrats, then sort 516 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 5: of returning back to normal. So this is why Donald 517 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 5: Trump said last week that he will fight everyone Jack 518 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 5: Smith and his team, who is already already said they're 519 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 5: going to resign before Donald Trump takes office. But he 520 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 5: also will deploy resources in the DOJ to investigate the 521 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 5: twenty twenty election and all again play the lies that 522 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 5: we were told by everyone from Attorney General Bill Barr 523 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 5: at the time to then the Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Roseman, 524 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 5: top DOJ and FBI officials who insist there was no 525 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 5: evidence of voting fraud and furthermore claimed that they had 526 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 5: conducted investigations when we later found out there was no 527 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 5: DOJ investigations into this these various states and voting frauds. 528 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 5: So I think that given the results of twenty twenty four, 529 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 5: it is fair for the president now to look into 530 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 5: really what happened because we strongly believe the election was stolen. 531 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 5: We see what has happened to our country in the 532 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 5: wake of Biden's stolen presidential election, and again we are 533 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 5: entitled to the truth one way or the other. We 534 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 5: just want to know exactly what happened, what didn't happen 535 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 5: to just like the Jacksmith, make sure it does not 536 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 5: happen again. 537 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: What should happen to Jack Smith. 538 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I implore Charles Grassley, the incoming 539 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 5: Senate Judiciary Committee chairman, to send a letter directly to 540 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 5: Jack Smith and his team telling them not to leave 541 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 5: the country. As we've talked about play, Jack Smith and 542 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 5: one of his prosecutors, David Harbach, were at the Hague 543 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 5: overseeing criminal prosecution of the Kosovo former Kosovo president on 544 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 5: war crimes. There are rumors that he plans to resign 545 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 5: and then quickly return to the Hague. He should not 546 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 5: leave the country, and I think that's something that Charles 547 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 5: grass Leave, the Senator from Iowa, needs to warn Jack 548 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 5: Smith and his team not to leave because they need 549 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 5: a full blown investigation into the Special Council's office. What 550 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 5: I reported, what happened in the Florida case, specifically campering 551 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 5: with evidence, destruction of evidence, obstructing investigations, threatening witnesses and lawyers, 552 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 5: which is what Jay Brett did, and proven conspiracy clay 553 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 5: between the National Archives DJ and the Biden White House 554 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 5: to concoct some sort of documents case against Donald Trump 555 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 5: as early as the spring of twenty twenty one. We 556 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 5: saw the records, We saw the correspondence between those three entities, 557 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 5: and the idea that Joe Biden's White House is somehow 558 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 5: insulated from the two unprecedented criminal prosecutions of Donald Trump 559 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 5: just does not match the evidence and even some of 560 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 5: Joe Biden's own public statements. So there is a lot 561 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 5: to dig into here. And you know, it's very tough 562 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 5: for prosecutors to go after prosecutors. But that's not what 563 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,959 Speaker 5: Jack Smith was. He was a dirty Democratic operative. This 564 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 5: guy is the biggest loser indj history. Supreme Court Unana, 565 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 5: we overturn his political conviction of Bob McDonald and his wife. 566 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 5: He did not get a single conviction in the first 567 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 5: prosecution of Senator Bob Menandez. He did not get a 568 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 5: conviction of Senator John Edwards. He was rebuked by the 569 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 5: Supreme Court three times this year in the community ruling 570 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 5: Fisher ruling on fifteen twelve QWO and the Supreme Court 571 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 5: rejecting his emergency appeal to bypass the DC Circuit Court 572 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 5: on community ruling and take up that question immediately so 573 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 5: they could try to push that case to trial in 574 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 5: Washington before the election. He is a loser. Is a 575 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 5: rogue Democrat operative disguised as a federal prosecutor, and he 576 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 5: must be fully investigated and yes, probably likely face criminal 577 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 5: charges of his own. 578 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: If that all happens. 579 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: It also then implicates, as you just laid out all 580 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 2: of the prosecution of the January sixth defendants, you've covered 581 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: these individuals better than almost anyone in the country. Donald 582 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: Trump may have already asked you, but a lot of 583 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: his staff listens to this show. Obviously, what should happen 584 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: in your opinion with the January sixth defendants? Should it 585 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: be uniform action? Do you think there are some people 586 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: that aren't worthy of clemency from the president? What would 587 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: you suggest? 588 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 5: I would say, and I reject the idea that this 589 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 5: needs to be a case by case review. I think 590 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 5: for a handful of defendants number one, who have criminal histories, 591 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 5: or number two are known informants, confidential human sources as 592 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 5: they're called, which we know there were dozens, perhaps more 593 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 5: than one hundred involved. Most of them were not charged, 594 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 5: but a handful probably were. They should be exempted from 595 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 5: pardons or communications. But even those who are accused of 596 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 5: assaulting police, I'm the flimsiest flimsiest conduct, and of course 597 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 5: charges that have never been brought against political protesters in Washington. 598 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 5: They still had to go before one Democrats juries. They 599 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 5: had to go before unhinged partisan judges, and shouldn't even 600 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 5: say part of them because some of the Republican judges 601 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 5: were worse than the Democrats. This was such a rigged 602 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 5: process that even those accused of violence did not have 603 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 5: their constitutional rights honors to due process for a fair 604 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 5: jury trial before a jury of their peers, where all 605 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 5: of the evidence was produced to the judge or jury. 606 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 5: We know over and over judges refused to enter into evidence, 607 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 5: exculpatory videos, exculpatory testimonies by even federal agents that would 608 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 5: have exonerated these defendants. It was rigged time after time. 609 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 5: So I strongly support almost a blanket pardon is an 610 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 5: easy way to say it, but all of them should 611 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 5: should be immune, should be exonerated, should be pardoned, to 612 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 5: be released from prison. You know, we have Enrique Ontario 613 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 5: in jail for twenty two years clay on a seditious 614 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 5: conspiracy conviction. He committed no violence, He wasn't even in Washington, 615 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 5: but because he was the head of the Proud Boys, 616 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 5: the government sought and received by a Trump judge by 617 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 5: the way, Tim Kelly, twenty two years in a federal prison, 618 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 5: and I'll tell you I talked to Jay six attorney yesterday. 619 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 5: These J six defendants, former Marines, former law enforcements, are 620 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 5: in some of the worst federal prisons in our country. 621 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 5: Was hardened long time felons, violent salons, murderers, terrorist rapists. 622 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 5: This is where they are being sent to. It is 623 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 5: a travesty at every level. And I don't agree with 624 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 5: the cat dancing. With few exceptions, every single JA sixer 625 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 5: should be pardoned and those who are in prison now 626 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 5: to be an immediately released from custody. 627 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 2: Julie, keep up the fantastic work. Enjoy maybe a nice 628 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: beverage of your choice to celebrate Jack Smith officially being finished. 629 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: And I hope that he has to stand and be 630 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: held accountable for what he did as well as Mayor Garland. 631 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: By the way, appreciate the time. 632 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 5: Thanks Gray, have great Thanksgiving you. 633 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 2: Too, Julie Kelly been doing phenomenal work. 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You think eighty one 654 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: million people voted for Joe Biden? 655 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 6: Yes, I do, and so I'm not mistaken. Oh good? 656 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: So no, No, I was just gonna say so, just 657 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: for the data. 658 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: Sixty five point eight million people voted for Hillary and 659 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: seventy four million voted for Kamala. So Kamala got seven 660 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: million less votes than Joe Biden, and Joe Biden got 661 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: sixteen million. 662 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: More votes than Hillary. You think those are all legit? 663 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 6: I do, and I can explain why. Okay, So back 664 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 6: in twenty and sixteen, when Donald Trump gotten in office, 665 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 6: obviously the Democrats didn't like this. So in twenty twenty, 666 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 6: there was a record number of people that came out 667 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 6: to vote because we wanted change. We did not want 668 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 6: Donald Trump. Whether now I'm a working man and union man, 669 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 6: somebody who's looking forward to my pension, social security, there's 670 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 6: numerous reasons, and I didn't feel that, you know, Donald 671 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 6: Trump was the man for me. So I feel that 672 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 6: record number of people wanted Donald Trump out and that's 673 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 6: what happened. And let's say that's legitimate. Okay, Joe Biden 674 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 6: gets elected. Now, why did the numbers drop off dramatically 675 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 6: for Kamala Harris? Because you had forty years of a ridiculous, 676 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 6: terrible Democratic Party that was Whether it's true or not, 677 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 6: and they're giving the the. 678 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 2: So wait, let me ask you this. I get how 679 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 2: did you vote? How did you vote in twenty sixteen? 680 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 6: I voted for Hillary. 681 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: How did you vote in twenty twenty Biden, how did 682 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 2: you vote in twenty twenty four. 683 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 6: Kamala? 684 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: Okay, so you voted against hold On, but you yourself voted 685 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 2: against Donald Trump three different times. So I disagree with 686 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: your votes, but you're consistent. What I am saying is 687 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: you think that Joe Biden was an infinitely better candidate 688 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 2: running against Donald Trump than either Hillary or Kamala. 689 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 6: At the time of voting. 690 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: Okay, yes you must. 691 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 2: Okay, So you think that Barack Obama two thousand and 692 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 2: eight twelve million less votes than Joe Biden. Barack Obama 693 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 2: was a shell of the candidate that Joe Biden. 694 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 6: Was because politics have changed drastically in those last eight 695 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 6: to twelve years. 696 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: All Right, thank you for the call. We're finishing the show. 697 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: I would just ask, and he thinks it's legit. Hey, 698 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: eighty one million. Joe Biden's the most popular president since 699 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: George Washington. 700 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: According to guy who just called. 701 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 2: It, Barack Obama, the greatest Democrat candidate of the twenty 702 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 2: first century, got sixty nine and a half million votes 703 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight. Joe Biden in twenty twenty 704 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 2: beat him by twelve million votes. I'm not Biden, slave 705 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 2: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.