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Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this morning Combat. Hey it's Wednesday. Fuck your life,

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Speaker 1: it's time for MK. My name is Luke Thomas. I'm

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Speaker 1: What's up, loser?

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Speaker 2: Oh wow? Oh yeah, that's how we're doing it today. Okay, Luke,

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Speaker 2: happy to be back. Let's climb that hump together, all right,

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Speaker 2: hump Ryan Campbell, that's my name, Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hump day BC. Great day here. So if you're

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy that you've decided to put your health first, Luke. Okay,

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Speaker 1: welcome to MK. A lot of stuff to get to today.

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Speaker 1: We'll do a little quick Contender series reaction. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: Well, we want looks. It's a good marketing tool for

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Speaker 2: You know, the poise certainly was next level for seventeen

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Speaker 1: This is regional MMA, and you just don't want UFC

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Speaker 2: But okay, so in light of Dana's decision for what

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Speaker 1: If he was twenty seven now, Granty, I understand being

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Speaker 2: titles as a teenager basically and fought you know, Oscar

429
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Speaker 2: de la Hoya and Felix trending that in major pay

430
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Speaker 2: per views. I think before even turning twenty two, we

431
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Speaker 2: look back at the beatings he took in those knockout losses,

432
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Speaker 2: even though he had moments of course as sort of saying, man,

433
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Speaker 2: I wonder if that stunted his long term growth. I

434
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Speaker 2: wonder if he's one of those guys that, in hindsight,

435
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Speaker 2: you would have soft matched a little bit further into

436
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Speaker 2: his twenties to get him that experience. This is something

437
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Speaker 2: completely different. So I almost want to re ask the

438
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Speaker 2: question I asked you, even though you gave a great

439
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Speaker 2: answer to your own thoughts to the spear of my question.

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Speaker 2: I just watched a Dana White interview yesterday in which

441
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Speaker 2: he was talking about the I'm sorry I read one

442
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Speaker 2: where he was talking about Joe Pifer and the success

443
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Speaker 2: of the Contender series, and look, he said, the Contender

444
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Speaker 2: series is so hot, I guarantee you it'll be on

445
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Speaker 2: ESPN before you know it. That was more or less

446
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Speaker 2: what he said. I'm paraphrasing. How much do you think

447
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 2: Dana would in this case not care about if you

448
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 2: can burn this kid out or you know, give him

449
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 2: too much too soon for what it could say about

450
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Speaker 2: his series If a you know, seventeen or eighteen year

451
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 2: old kid is fighting on the real UFC on ESPN

452
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Speaker 2: and you're pointing back to look, another win for Dana

453
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Speaker 2: White and company, which, by the way, like I love

454
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Speaker 2: the series, I'm not here to trash it. But do

455
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Speaker 2: you think in this case they would be ready and

456
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Speaker 2: willing to do the exact opposite of a Bo Nickel

457
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Speaker 2: and just throw him directly to the wolves under the

458
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Speaker 2: hope that if it works out, look at what we made.

459
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Speaker 1: No. I think what will happen is they'll give him

460
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Speaker 1: the Sage north Cut treatment. Right, They'll give him somebody

461
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Speaker 1: at first that he can beat. Maybe somebody's second, he

462
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Speaker 1: can beat maybe even somebody. In the third fight he

463
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Speaker 1: should beat no problem. But like he's talking about, I

464
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Speaker 1: want to be champion by twenty, good luck, young man,

465
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna need it. Good luck. Even even the great

466
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 1: John Jones couldn't do something like that, and he broke

467
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Speaker 1: all the rules in every kind of way. Again, who's

468
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Speaker 1: to say no one can predict the future. I can't

469
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Speaker 1: predict the future. I'm happy to ecro if he ends

470
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Speaker 1: up getting a belt at twenty. I didn't see anything

471
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Speaker 1: there that told me in two years time he was

472
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Speaker 1: going to be the very best in his weight class

473
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Speaker 1: at one hundred and thirty five pounds. By the way,

474
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Speaker 1: I should also be pointed out that his opponent Mando

475
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Speaker 1: gutierres and that was a good win he got. I

476
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Speaker 1: want to be very clear, it was a solid win.

477
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Speaker 1: But you saw Mando Gutierrez's corner pleading with him to

478
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Speaker 1: stop making the same mistakes over and over again, the

479
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Speaker 1: momentary table being like, why is he making these choices?

480
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: There was a lot of bad choices that aided the

481
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Speaker 1: performance here and again it sounds like I'm beating up

482
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Speaker 1: on the kid. I'm not what I'm trying to do

483
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Speaker 1: is warn people that if you rush somebody, even as

484
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Speaker 1: promising as Rosos Junior, even as good as he is

485
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Speaker 1: at seventeen, if you rush that, you will fucking ruin it.

486
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Speaker 1: You will ruin it. And I'm trying to avoid that.

487
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Speaker 1: I want to get the most out of this kid,

488
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Speaker 1: not the first out of this kid.

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Speaker 2: Look, I say this with respect, but I tend to

490
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Speaker 2: believe that if you were born one hundred years earlier,

491
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Speaker 2: you would have been a huge proponent of prohibition, and

492
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Speaker 2: you would have been left and right trying to turn

493
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Speaker 2: down all speakeasies, and like anyone having fun, you would

494
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Speaker 2: have been like, fuck.

495
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Speaker 1: It, dude. People on MMA love to get on bandwagons.

496
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Speaker 1: They fucking love to buy promoter hype. They love to

497
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Speaker 1: just oh yeah, someone's doing something that sounds cool on

498
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Speaker 1: the broadcast. Let's just say yes to it. Dude. Someone

499
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Speaker 1: has to be there to be the fucking bad guy. Okay,

500
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Speaker 1: I'll be the bad guy. The kid is talented, no argument,

501
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Speaker 1: He's very talented, one of the more talented seventeen year

502
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Speaker 1: olds I've ever seen. Fine is the UFC ready? Not really?

503
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Speaker 1: And could this fuck up his development? Very possibly? I

504
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Speaker 1: don't know. Why you would rush that. That's my holy point.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, UFC. I'm budsman, thank you. No, I agree

506
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Speaker 2: with you, all right, I agree.

507
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Speaker 1: Let's get to the topic number one. Then, as that

508
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Speaker 1: was our preamble, here was big news that actually hit

509
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Speaker 1: last night during the broadcast for the Contender series. Eddie

510
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Speaker 1: Alvarez and One Championship have split, and apparently it was amicable,

511
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Speaker 1: at least as it was reported in the news. Who

512
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Speaker 1: knows where the actual story is there and then the

513
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Speaker 1: Eddie Alvarez then took to Twitter to confirm the news.

514
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Speaker 1: He said he was done. He stoles on good terms

515
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Speaker 1: with One. He wishes them well. But here you see

516
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Speaker 1: the tweet right here, the last part of it. I

517
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Speaker 1: look forward to watching their continued to success. Talking about One,

518
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Speaker 1: I'm officially a free agent and ready to hunt. Tell

519
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Speaker 1: me who's next? UGK Now that's not a reference to

520
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,479
Speaker 1: the hip hop group that is underground King BC. I've

521
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Speaker 1: got some thoughts on this, but let's go to you

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Speaker 1: first watch to this news.

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Speaker 2: Put some respect on Nico Atkin of the South China

524
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Speaker 2: Morning Post for breaking this story. Luke, I don't you

525
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Speaker 2: probably won't know this, but I was his editor at

526
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Speaker 2: ESPN for a hot second. Okay, thank you, thank you.

527
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Speaker 2: Shout out to Nico Atkin. There, Luke, team me up,

528
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Speaker 2: let's go.

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Speaker 1: I just did. What is your reaction to the news,

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Speaker 1: Oh all right, all right.

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Speaker 2: I cut you off there, sorry, Luke. My reaction is

532
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Speaker 2: I'm excited. I'm excited about the potential new fun fights

533
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Speaker 2: that can be made for what's left of thirty eight

534
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Speaker 2: year old Eddie Alvarez, who only fights one way and

535
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Speaker 2: then the second half of his career, especially the one

536
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Speaker 2: movement was probably financially a boon for him, and I

537
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Speaker 2: hope for him and his family it was, and he

538
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Speaker 2: deserves it. It didn't go, you know, in the end,

539
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Speaker 2: was he one and two with a no contest? It

540
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Speaker 2: didn't go in the end for one as an advertisement

541
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Speaker 2: of calm American Mma fans come see this on to

542
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Speaker 2: the level that they might have hoped, although it did

543
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Speaker 2: help them put over you know, some more homegrown guys

544
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Speaker 2: who had a chance to go in there and have

545
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Speaker 2: success against Eddie. But for whatever was, Luke, that wasn't

546
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Speaker 2: any monster success for him. He's still in this era

547
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Speaker 2: of aging hardcore legends can make some very fun fights.

548
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Speaker 2: So my question to you is who do you think

549
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Speaker 2: will be most aggressive for his services and what type

550
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Speaker 2: of fun fights we didn't think could fall in our

551
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Speaker 2: lap between aging action heroes could actually be made here

552
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Speaker 2: that would get you fired up.

553
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Speaker 1: So a couple of interesting things to think about to

554
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Speaker 1: answer your question. First, he could go back to Bellator

555
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Speaker 1: because correct me if I'm wrong. When he split it

556
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Speaker 1: was pre twenty fourteen. Yes, that's right, it was twenty

557
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Speaker 1: thirteen when he finally left, and Born Rebney was relieved

558
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Speaker 1: of his services in twenty fourteen. So Scott Koker could

559
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Speaker 1: have a very different relationship with Eddie Alvarez than Buorn

560
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Speaker 1: Rebney ever did. That's one thing to consider. So there's

561
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Speaker 1: that a lot of people pointing to the PFL. They

562
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Speaker 1: would love to get him in there. You could do it, potentially.

563
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Speaker 1: It would you have to play with the wait a

564
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Speaker 1: little bit, obviously, but you could do a Shane Burgos

565
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Speaker 1: and Eddie Alvarez fight if you wanted to go to

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Speaker 1: one fifty five. So there's some interesting opportunity there as well.

567
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Speaker 1: He says he wants to wants to box. I don't

568
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Speaker 1: really know what his options could be. Another sort of

569
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Speaker 1: interesting player in the market. I don't really know if

570
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: this is true, but it's something to think about Nate

571
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Speaker 1: Diaz's promotion real inc One wonders if that be something interesting.

572
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Speaker 1: Not that Nate would sign to fight them, although I

573
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Speaker 1: suppose they could do that, but I don't think that

574
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Speaker 1: they would, but that they might sign Eddie as like

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Speaker 1: a centerpiece in all of that. So he's got, at

576
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Speaker 1: least on the MMA side, some options. But you brought

577
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Speaker 1: up some things that I think are worthy of consideration here.

578
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Speaker 1: Number one, he's thirty eight, he'll be thirty nine in January,

579
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Speaker 1: so he is at this weight class old. Sorry, it

580
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Speaker 1: is what it is like.

581
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Speaker 2: Nine, I'm looking at two fun money fights here, right,

582
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Speaker 2: That's what we're looking.

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Speaker 1: At, probably something like that, something like that. So I

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Speaker 1: also want to say, I think that the run with one,

585
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Speaker 1: like when one signed that trio of guys Demetrius, Eddie

586
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Speaker 1: and Stage north Cut, I think that the deal with

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00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: Demetrius worked out really really well, Like that was something

588
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Speaker 1: that they can look back on and be like, did

589
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Speaker 1: we get the better end of that deal or at

590
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Speaker 1: least this did this deal deliver onto us what we

591
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: had hoped on the Demetrius Johnson side. I think it has.

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Speaker 1: I think it has, and then some it's worked out

593
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: really really well for both Demetrius and One Championship. Two

594
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Speaker 1: thumbs up. There the stage North cut one I think

595
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: blew up in their face. They match made him very

596
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: poorly against Cosmo Alschandre. He got his face broken in

597
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Speaker 1: a million pieces and he hasn't been back since. They

598
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: may have ruined him as well, So something to think

599
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: about there. On the side. With Eddie, it was just weird.

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Speaker 1: They matched him up with Timothy nesty Yukin who fucked

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Speaker 1: him up in the first round. Then remember tore both

602
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Speaker 1: of his eyelids. They weren't even sure if he was

603
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Speaker 1: going to be able to fight again. Then he comes

604
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Speaker 1: back and takes on the one of the sort of

605
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Speaker 1: the pioneers of Filipino MMA, Edward Follyang, gets dropped in

606
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Speaker 1: the first round, but then comes back and has a

607
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: sensational win. Okay, two thumbs up. A couple of matches

608
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Speaker 1: fell through, had the fight on TNT against Lapicus, but

609
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: then there was the shots to the back of the

610
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Speaker 1: head that was a controversial call, so that got turned

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Speaker 1: into no contest. And then in his last fight, which

612
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Speaker 1: was in April of twenty twenty one, he fought Oak

613
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Speaker 1: ray Yun and lost and kind of I want to

614
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: say cleanly lost, but he got dropped in that one,

615
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: rocked several times, couldn't really take down Oak ray Yun,

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Speaker 1: and it just didn't. It was like that whatever that

617
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: run was supposed to be with one, it just didn't materialize.

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Speaker 1: And I would attribute that largely to age. BC. He's

619
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Speaker 1: had a ton of miles. He made his pro debut

620
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Speaker 1: all the way back in December of two thousand and three.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's been in the sport a really, really

622
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Speaker 1: really long time, almost twenty years. He's been doing this.

623
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Speaker 1: The miles are long, the age is long, and so

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Speaker 1: I certainly hope he can get some money. I think

625
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Speaker 1: you said two money fights left. I think I'd be

626
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Speaker 1: amazing if he can do that. But I would also

627
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Speaker 1: caution people to, you know, once again, hear a bad guy.

628
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Speaker 1: I would just caution people to manage their expectations a lot. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm talking about matching him against guys that

630
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Speaker 2: are also on the way out with big you know,

631
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: big names. But he brought up boxing and we always

632
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: know he's had that ability is good, great hands for MMA,

633
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: but would you pop at Let's just say I'm making

634
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: this up. Imagine if like Jake's MVP promotions and Nate's

635
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: Fight Ink, what is it Real Fight Inc. I don't

636
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: know whatever promotion?

637
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Real Fight Inc.

638
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: Did a you know, a co deal for a boxing

639
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: match between them? What about Eddie versus Jose Aldo in

640
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: a boxing match in the co Maine?

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Speaker 1: I mean I can't sit here and say I wouldn't

642
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Speaker 1: watch it. I obviously would watch it, Okay, you know

643
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I'm not going to sit here

644
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: and shit on that, you know how much? The question though,

645
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: is not like would you watch it or would I

646
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: watch it? We are pathetic degenerates who are paid to watch,

647
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: so either way we're gonna watch. The question is what

648
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: would the market bear for that? I don't know. I

649
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: really don't know. I don't I certainly would do well,

650
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: but like how well would it do? We just had

651
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: by the way, Dan Rayfield reporting that Canelo Triple G

652
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: they needed to do well over six hundred k bys

653
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: just to fucking break even, and it came in short

654
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: of that, probably run the five fifty five seventy five

655
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: K mark. They fucking lost money on that and that's

656
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: the you know, the arguably the best pound for pound

657
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: fucking boxer in the sport in a historic trilogy. How

658
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: much could Jose out of versus Eddie Alvarez doing boxing.

659
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it would do poorly, but could it

660
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: do enough to give them money? And then I just don't.

661
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it would do. I don't know

662
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: what it was.

663
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Speaker 2: I shout out to Showtime for doing eight hundred thousand

664
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Speaker 2: buyes with Caleb Plant Canelo.

665
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Speaker 1: All right, yeah, I gotta say I like Eddie Hearn's

666
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: promotions in the UK. He does not do a great

667
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: job here. He does not do a great job here, but.

668
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: Any case people would argue that given the size of

669
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Speaker 2: the stadium's Canelo fought in with Eddie. But I get

670
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: the spirit of what you're saying.

671
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 1: I think Eddie Hearn has the UK on lock. I

672
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Speaker 1: really do. I think he does a fucking phenomenal job.

673
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Speaker 1: I love his live shows. I think he brings a

674
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Speaker 1: certain flair to it, and I don't I don't think

675
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: Canelo likes Eddie Hearn by accident, But dude, like, I

676
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: just can't remember the last one was the what's the

677
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Speaker 1: best job Eddie Hearn has done promoting a fight in

678
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: the United States, like, clearly, no bullshit, amazing.

679
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: Job Canelo versus Billy Joe Saunders in at the Cowboys Stadium?

680
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: Did I think it did a huge gate right and

681
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: had to have a ton of people there?

682
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Speaker 1: All right?

683
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: I mean, did he did Anthony Joshua against Andy Ruiza

684
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Speaker 2: Matis the.

685
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: Square garden face big time?

686
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: No, it did, but that was a massive deal that night.

687
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: And he did the Serrano Katie Taylor fight Oka, And so.

688
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: You know what, I'll walk back some of my criticisms

689
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think they're a little bit unfair.

690
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: So well, I got a bit more important question about

691
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: Eddie Hern before we get back into another Eddie. Look,

692
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: have you ever seen him in person? He is six seven,

693
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: like a legit six seven?

694
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Tall. I've not seen him in person, but I've

695
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: heard he's tall.

696
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: Like how why stand up? And some of the guys,

697
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: you know, feel the the toxicity of the cock. Sureity, Luke,

698
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: do you think Eddie Hern right now can dunk at

699
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: age thirty eight? Ooh, it's a fair question. A fair question.

700
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: Now, when you say dunk, do you mean like a

701
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: nerf ball? Or like a full on Spalding basket.

702
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: Full basketball, but you know you gotta I mean you got,

703
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: it's got to be a dunk, it's got to be

704
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: above and then you can't throw it in, you know.

705
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: I'll say yes, I'll say yes.

706
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Speaker 2: I'd like to. I'd like to set this up on

707
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Speaker 2: pay per view. Actually, if anyone's willing, all right, might sell.

708
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: That might sell. Any final thoughts on on Eddie and

709
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: one And by the way, we haven't want to talk

710
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: about we're talking about what this means for Eddie. Question

711
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: is what this means for one? I would say, like,

712
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: it's obviously not great that they split in this way,

713
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: but I, you know, in fairness to both parties, I

714
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: think both parties split and would say I'm speaking for

715
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: Eddie here, but I think what they would say is

716
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: the deal didn't work as expected, So it's not great

717
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: to lose Eddie Alvarez, But in terms of what they

718
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: were able to get from Eddie, I just feel like

719
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: it's not a in that sense tremendous loss. Is that

720
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Speaker 1: fair or fair?

721
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: No, that's very fair, and you can and you can

722
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Speaker 2: actually argue that just for the name value for their

723
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: TNT cards and their original splash that getting Eddie worked,

724
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: whether he never want to fight, and you can argue

725
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: that and that could be true, but you know, in

726
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: terms of like anyone being mad at each other about exiting,

727
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: like there wasn't much more he could have done for

728
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: them or given them. So if he's got a chance

729
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: to go wherever, let's let him have that chance. Final

730
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: quick final on Eddie is I don't I don't find

731
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: like them for a PFL season, though. I wonder if PFL,

732
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: if this pay per view division that they're launching essentially

733
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: just to keep Kayla happy, ends up playing out next year.

734
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Speaker 2: I mean, could you add like Eddie Alvarez in a

735
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: one off against Anthony Pettis or something you probably could

736
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: Luke and like a Colemane and no one will get

737
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: mad at you. So don't discount something like that. But

738
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: on the other side, do you feel like one championship

739
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: needs ahead of this US debut that they've been you know,

740
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: I mean, the pandemic got in the way of their

741
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: US debut, but they've been building toward this for a while.

742
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: Do you think they need another major free agent signing

743
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: ahead of that to really, you know, get people hyped up,

744
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: like we saw the debut just now on Amazon Prime

745
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: and Demetrius won the title back. It was a great

746
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: sort of way to reintroduce yourself to American MMA fans.

747
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: Do you think they need like an in their prime

748
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: pickup where you're like, oh shit, I didn't see that coming.

749
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Were you asking about pfl or for one one? Yes,

750
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Speaker 1: But like, I just wonder how much of a difference

751
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: it will really make. It's not to say that like, oh,

752
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: if they had another big imagine like, well, okay, if

753
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: they signed Nate Diaz, that would be a game changer.

754
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: I find that extremely unlikely, but if they did, that

755
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: would be a game changer. But short of signing Nate Daz,

756
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: there's no one else they could really sign that I

757
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: can think of that's available that would be this game

758
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: changing kind of phenomenon. It would just be a nice

759
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: other addition. The real challenge of the one product, as

760
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: I mentioned before, the one product to me, out of

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Speaker 1: all the UFC competitors or the you know, the promotions

762
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Speaker 1: outside of UFC, one is the only one to me

763
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: that offers a genuinely different product, and for a very

764
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: good reason. I like what they offer different rule set,

765
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: different kinds of talent, you know, different kinds of fights.

766
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: Moy tie with four ounce gloves in a cage, like,

767
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: it's weird. It's weird and it's different and it's cool,

768
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: but at the same time, it just seems it's centered

769
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Speaker 1: on an audience with a different sensibility than the American one.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know how they're gonna They've they've they've

771
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: properly differentiated themselves, but they might have differentiated themselves in

772
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: the wrong direct. And so you know, signing another guy

773
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: would be helpful, but I don't know if it fixes

774
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: what they're up against.

775
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: That's fair. I mean, it would make a splash, you know,

776
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: if they can get another guy that's still got a

777
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: lot left that can contend for one of their titles,

778
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: I think that would help them move in that direction.

779
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: I had something else to say, but I don't remember.

780
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: Let's just move on to point number two, because there

781
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: is no UFC this weekend, but there are some fights.

782
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: Bellator is back on showtime, I can I think the

783
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: last show was like last month, it's been a little

784
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,479
Speaker 1: while that Bellotre two eighty five. Of course, this will

785
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: go down this weekend. I believe the start time. I

786
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 1: need to get this right. I think it's the start

787
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: time for the prelimbs is twelve thirty pm ET. I

788
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: think the main card is at four pm ET. I'll

789
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: double check that.

790
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: Now that's correct, four pm Eastern on Showtime Friday.

791
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: But this is going to be at the three Arena

792
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: in Dublin, Ireland. If you don't already know, let me

793
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: remind you the Irish fans, if they're not the very

794
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: best ones in all of MMA, they're one A or

795
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: one B. I mean, they're right fucking there, a phenomenal

796
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: crew and of course in your main event BC, Benson

797
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: Henderson taking on Peter Quey Benson Henderson BC. He appears

798
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: to be close to the end of his run, thirty

799
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: eight years of age himself. I think he has a

800
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: birthday coming up in November, so he'll be thirty nine.

801
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: He has he coming off a win against Islam Mamodol,

802
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: but before that losses to premise Jason Jackson, Michael Chandler.

803
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: He does have a win over Miles Jury back in

804
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, so he appears to be kind of petering

805
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: out and sort of you know, playing on words they're

806
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: taking on Peter Coely. Queenly, on the other hand, is

807
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: coming off that loss to Petricky Pittbull but had to

808
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: win via doctor stoppage before that. The winner Ryan Scope,

809
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,479
Speaker 1: He's obviously got one of the best walkouts in MMA.

810
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: He's going to have the hometown crowd behind him. How

811
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: do you assess the relevance or importance of this fight?

812
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: I think it's more for the regional aspects that you mentioned.

813
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: Although Peter Quilely did just get what to the title

814
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: level in his two fight series with Patrichy Pitbull, with

815
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 2: the second one being for the title and he lost

816
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 2: it but did get the stoppage win the first time around.

817
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: Is there life left for him in the title picture?

818
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 2: Maybe unlikely, but I understand putting him in this headlining

819
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: role and this could be a big bounce back fight.

820
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: I think for Benson Henderson, who did get that win

821
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,479
Speaker 2: against Mamadov, it's unlikely that he does anything with it, Luke.

822
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: If he wins this, could he level up and certainly,

823
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 2: but he's he's been at this level for a while Luke,

824
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: where you feel like anything can happen, meaning he could

825
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: vet his way to a victory by gutting it out,

826
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: or he could be the right level of opposition for

827
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: a younger guy rising who's looking to make that statement.

828
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: I'm glad he gets this close up opportunity, but nothing

829
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: here in the moment in terms of potential title opportunities.

830
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 2: And by the way, did you no sell our producer

831
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: Gaff hardcore on his attempt to tell you that one

832
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: should sign Bruce Leroy?

833
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, Alex Casseris, Yeah. I mean he put an LL

834
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: after it, just to be clear.

835
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: I think that was to try to say face. That's

836
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Speaker 2: what I think he was doing.

837
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it would be if that was a real suggestion,

838
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: it would be terrible. But I don't think that it was.

839
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: Gaff is a real MMA fan, all right. But the

840
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make here is here's what I

841
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: think they're trying to do. Be see, Peter Quelly has

842
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: shown some ability, he obviously has. He's a respectable fighter.

843
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: I think he's deserving of respect, and I think Benson

844
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: Henderson probably doesn't have a whole lot of time left

845
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: in the sport. They're back in Ireland, which, by the way,

846
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: I'm told that Bellator tears it up in Ireland. They

847
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: own that market in a lot of ways, they're you know,

848
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: they're giving one of the hometown guys who's got some promise,

849
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: a fading star who's still not gonna be easy to beat,

850
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: but certainly not what he once was. This is his

851
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: chance to get a big win over a big name,

852
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: excuse me, in the hometown that he obviously represents. Is

853
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: that a fair assessment to you?

854
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: That is a very very fair assessment to me. And

855
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: what are the odds that a random Connor McGregor Mark

856
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: Goddard rematch breaks out at some point?

857
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna be that much. So

858
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: I'll say this, if you haven't ever seen Peter Coely's

859
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: walkout in Ireland, you owe it to yourself to watch

860
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: the he played comes out to zombie and the crowd

861
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: goes fucking busy.

862
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: It's awesome. It's awesome, Luke, like the like the Mets

863
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: reliever with that trumpet. I mean, it's awesome. You you

864
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: want to hate it, you can, It's pretty awesome.

865
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: You know who is that fucking moron that social media.

866
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: Timmy the trumpet player. I don't really watch baseball, Luke.

867
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't say on the Mets too hard

868
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: because my hometown teams are all largely pathetic. But the Mets.

869
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: Fuck the Mets playoffs your life.

870
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 2: How about that they made the playoffs. But I haven't

871
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 2: cared in a while to fight.

872
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: The Mets stad City Field.

873
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: I didn't know that the chick who's saying lead on

874
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: the Cranberries died a couple of years ago, because I

875
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 2: the other day was looking up like, I'm like, do

876
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: they come around anymore? I'd like to see them. Luke,

877
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: would you say that Zombie is, you know, probably the

878
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: go to track for the Cranberries, but their second Darien

879
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: third radio hits were pretty damn awesome, Luke.

880
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: You remember, Well, I'll say this, the I think Zombie

881
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: is like, they're just one of their best tracks. It's

882
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: just amazing.

883
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: It's no Linger, Okay.

884
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: So Linger is the one, you know, Linger lingered in

885
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: the United States, like that was at the top of

886
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: the charts for a really long time. But I will

887
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: agree that Zombie just has a certain kind of fucking

888
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: umph to it that the other ones don't.

889
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: All Right, what about that second hold On? What about

890
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 2: that secondary hit dreams where she's like.

891
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: My mother, Oh wait, tall does anyone care and I'm

892
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: not into that kind of shit, but.

893
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: My father, Yeah, I'm sure McGregor grew up on that

894
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: absolute well I like that song note, but.

895
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's talk about something else here. The

896
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: co main event a combined age of ninety one years old.

897
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: If that you can fucking believe it. Joel Romero at

898
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: two oh five, by the way, one of remind folks,

899
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: and I don't want eighty five two o five taking

900
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: on Melvin manhoof. Now, Joel Romero got back in the

901
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: win column relatively recently. When was this So that was

902
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: against Alex Polizzi, who he just beat like a fucking drum.

903
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: That was at Bellatoor two eighty back in May of

904
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: this year. I believe that was the one that was

905
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: in Paris. He finally gets back in the win Colin

906
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: Melvin Matthoof, who, by the way, is forty six years

907
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: of age. I'm told that, by the way, he could

908
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 1: be retiring after this one. It's not like a given,

909
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: but there's a decent probability. He fought Corey Anderson back

910
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. He hasn't fought since then. There was

911
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: a previously scheduled about with the old Romero. That kind

912
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: of fell through. Frankly, I don't think Melvin Manhoff should

913
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: be fighting. I'll just be candid about that. I don't know.

914
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: You know how he got a license because he's had

915
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: an absolute enormous amount of damage doesn't mean, by the way,

916
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: that he's not dangerous. He is dangerous. He is still fast,

917
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: he is still very heavy handed. But it feels to

918
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: me BC like this is a fight Joel Romero should

919
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: not lose, fair or unfair.

920
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: No, that's fair. Look, let's be real what it is.

921
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: It's an attraction fight. It's like they're really going to

922
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: put a burger patty between two donuts and you're like, man,

923
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 2: every why does every why? Is something this wrong?

924
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: You know?

925
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,959
Speaker 2: Feel so so right? You know what I mean? Luca

926
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: second on the lips, a lifetime on the hips, you know,

927
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 2: but we take that gamble or lifetime on the liver.

928
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: If you're talking about me, I'm gonna watch it, you know,

929
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: half through my fingers. I expect to knock out win

930
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 2: for one of them. It is more likely Romero could

931
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 2: get it, dude. Manhoff will still knock any humans lights

932
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: out though.

933
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the truth. No matter how old or damaged

934
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: he is, he will still punch your fucking lights out

935
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 1: if you're not careful.

936
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought, remember when they put these two

937
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: in the cage and they had him face off to

938
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: hype this, and you know, it fell apart one time

939
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 2: than they I mean, it was that was a little

940
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: bit much. But does Scott Cooker know what he's doing

941
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: from the standpoint of like, you'll watch it and the

942
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: end of the day, you'll probably talk about it on

943
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 2: your show. Yeah, Luke, we will, we will. But Romero

944
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: does certainly seem to have the much bigger stock. And

945
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: you did mention against easy Polizi he took care of

946
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: things and it was a much better presentation of what

947
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: he potentially has left compared to matching with Phil Davis.

948
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: And also it's better when Romero knows how many rounds

949
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: are on a fight. But like, what is his upper

950
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: bound limit here in the Bellatoria light heavyweight division? Is

951
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: it only? I mean, he's been forty something forever and

952
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: he's defied the odds. But he's a step down from

953
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: where Yoel Romero was, you know, on the Paulo Coasta

954
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 2: fight and the Chris Widman fight. Certainly, but like legitimately,

955
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: how far could he go right now if he wanted to,

956
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: if he put a couple Well.

957
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing I actually feel like, Okay, so

958
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: he got the win over Polizzi, he should get the

959
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: win over man Hoof. Again he looked. I'll say this,

960
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: I thought, in the win over Pelizi, it was sort

961
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: of a foregone conclusion that Yoel was going to win that.

962
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: So that he won is hardly some kind of you know, revelation.

963
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: But the way he won it, where he was almost

964
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: a little reserved by yell Romero standards, I actually liked that.

965
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: I liked that he was taking his time, that he

966
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: didn't go fucking batshit or you know, just try and

967
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: use too much athleticism, even though at age forty five

968
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: is got a lot of it to go and just

969
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, bulldoze a guy. He kind of

970
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: methodically worked his way through. So I actually think you

971
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: can get still at forty five, a very good version

972
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: of Joel Rameiro. The problem is for him anyway, it's

973
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: good for the consumer, so to speak. Dude, Bellator's two

974
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: A five division is good. It's fucking good. Like Corey

975
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: Anderson is in this, He's good. Nemkov is good. Phil

976
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: Davis will by the way, already beat Joel Romero is

977
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: in this division, He's good. There's a lot Anthony Johnson's

978
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: in this one, which we never got that one. So

979
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: to me, the question is not can Youel Romero win

980
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: a title at two of five? I don't think he

981
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: can beat Vedeem Nemkov, and I don't think he can

982
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: beat Corey Anderson. But but can he be an interesting

983
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: fun action fights if they can get Anthony Johnson back?

984
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: Maybe Jol Romero even goes to heavyweight a little bit

985
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: and takes on some one kind of crazy there, Like

986
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: there's interesting ways you can match make you well, Oh

987
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: for sure, fun fights, But like, is he gonna wear

988
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: a belt in this division?

989
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's about will he wear one more,

990
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: it's about how many wins would kind of force Scott

991
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: Cooker's promoter hand into putting him into a title fight.

992
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: Like even if the level of competition is what it is,

993
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 2: if he wins three to four in a row, Luke

994
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 2: forty six or forty five or not, suddenly you're gonna go, well,

995
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: that is a marketable fight, you know, whether it's Vadeem

996
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: Nemkov or Corey Anderson against him. You know, would you

997
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: be mad? Would you be mad if he got a

998
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: title shot off of this two fight win streak, You'd

999
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 2: be mad.

1000
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: Yes, that would be a fucking click.

1001
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I just wanted to check my lanser. I want

1002
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: to dead wrong myself. In real time, I was singing

1003
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: the Cranberry's Ode to Family, not dreams. You were humming dreams.

1004
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: But that just shows you they got a few bangers

1005
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: in there, Luke, Okay.

1006
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: They certainly do have a few bangers in there. Also

1007
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: on this card, Leah mccorr taking on Diana Silva. This

1008
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: is a women's one forty five pound contest, but that

1009
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: doesn't really catch my interest. The one that does. Mad's

1010
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: Burnow taking on Pedro Carvagio, though that's a lot of

1011
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: fun one five. Both guys couldn't quite advance at one

1012
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: forty five in the turning in the way they wanted,

1013
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: but they've both shown some good to even very good ability.

1014
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: I would say more on the side of Mads Burnell.

1015
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: Mas Burnell having a fucking dogfight with Adam Borich, that

1016
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: one catches my interest. PC. Are you interested in that one?

1017
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: Or is there anything else on this card that stands

1018
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: out more to you.

1019
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm very interested in that one. And look, you

1020
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 2: know the loss, as you mentioned for Burnell, he's still

1021
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: just twenty eight, and he had a hell of a

1022
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 2: you know, under hyped up windstreak before that, So I

1023
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: do wonder. You know, he comes back and looks good

1024
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: against Carvale. Even with the depth in this division here,

1025
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: you know, there's still time for him to make a

1026
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: run here at a Belatore world title, and he certainly

1027
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: showed you that he's game enough to do that. How

1028
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: much do you think Carvaglio has left on the flip

1029
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: side loop.

1030
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: It's a good question. I'm not really sure. I mean, obviously,

1031
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: he was way overmatched against Pitbull and that wasn't really fair.

1032
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was gonna beat Daniel Weischel and

1033
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: he did. H He also lost to JJ Wilson, but

1034
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: due JJ Wilson's like a really good fighter out of

1035
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: New Zealand, so like that, these are not like the

1036
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: end of the world. His last fight it was via

1037
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: split over a dude's name I can't pronounce, so like

1038
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: to me, this one situation, let me pull up the

1039
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: odds on this one. In real time. What do the

1040
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: odds makers have. I'd be very curious to see this

1041
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna bet that Mad's Burnell is a is

1042
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: a moderate favorite. Oh, they got him as a huge favorite.

1043
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: They've got him out of minus four fifty. That seems

1044
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: a little. That seems a lot to me. To be

1045
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: quite honest with you, I think this is actually a

1046
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: winnable contest for Carvolio. The problem is, Dude, Mad's Burnell,

1047
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: his striking is way improved, and his ground game is punishing, relentless, relentless,

1048
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: and in that level. Carvaglio, I haven't seen anything from

1049
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: him that tells me yet to this point. We'll see

1050
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: on set on Friday. I haven't seen anything to this

1051
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: point that tells me he can beat a guy of

1052
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: Madds Burnell's caliber on the ground. So it'll be a

1053
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: question of, like where this fight goes and to what

1054
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: extent Carvolio can define those terms?

1055
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: Damn right?

1056
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: By the way, you all Rome mar minus seven fifty

1057
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: over Milvin Manhoff?

1058
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 2: Is there a is there a get or get got

1059
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: by Manhoff that stands out to you the most? Like?

1060
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 2: What do you what would you think is his most

1061
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 2: viral highlight because he's got a lot of them. He's

1062
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 2: got some I mean, he's landed some hammers, but look,

1063
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: he's also been laid out by times.

1064
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: Robby Lawler laying him out was one of the worst ones.

1065
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: I remember when some when I was telling some friends

1066
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: when he when Lawler went to Strike Force and he,

1067
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, he fought he fought Manhoff, And I remember

1068
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends at the time being like, oh,

1069
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: we know who Robbie is. We don't know who Melvin is.

1070
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: And they were right in the end that you know,

1071
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: Robbie was better because he laid him out, And I

1072
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: was like, dude, Melvin is fucking really good. If you

1073
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: watch that fight, obviously you know Robbie put him out.

1074
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: If you've watched that fight before that, he was tearing

1075
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: Robbie to pieces. But the one that stands out the

1076
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: most if you've not seen it, and I know at

1077
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: this point we're all seen so many brawls that you know,

1078
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: you just can't imagine to be a better brawl. And

1079
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: maybe there are better brawls now, but for years, the

1080
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: brawl that stood the test of time was his fight

1081
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: against cyborg Santo's If you've not seen that. It was

1082
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 1: a It was an old British promotion called Cage Rage.

1083
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: Anderson's Silva fought in Cage Rage. Vetour Bell four fought

1084
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: in Cage Rage. Fucking Melvin Manhof versus Cyborg Santos is

1085
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: one of the most batshit things you'll ever fucking see.

1086
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: If you've not, you must must go check it out. Also, Luke,

1087
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: he's got great kickboxing ones too.

1088
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: Cyborg Santos is evangelistic.

1089
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, so here's the funny part about it.

1090
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: Well, hold on that fight. That fight was in Rio, Brazil,

1091
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 2: under the banner of Gringo super Fight ten.

1092
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: Was it? I thought it was in Cage Rage? Was

1093
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: that right? Oh?

1094
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: It was for the Gringo super Fight walterweight title. Luke,

1095
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: Are you that's a great name for a fight promotion.

1096
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right. Oh wait, was that the

1097
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: was a rematch that they have one before that? Oh?

1098
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: You know what, I think You're right. I'm dead wrong

1099
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: in real time today.

1100
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: No, you're right. They fought in two thousand and six

1101
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: at Cage Rage thirteen in London.

1102
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was right, Fuck you, that was the rematch.

1103
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 2: About that, I'm saying we were both right in the end. Okay, Luke,

1104
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 2: that's all right.

1105
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: So the one I'm talking about was the one where

1106
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: he fought into round two in cage rage. That is

1107
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: just absolutely bonkers, bonkers bonkers, dude. That was in two

1108
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: thousand and six. I remember when that fight happened in

1109
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: real time. That's how fucking old I am. So But

1110
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: he's also got a ton of good wins obviously in

1111
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: kickboxing as well. Dude, Melvin Manhoff has done very, very

1112
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: very impressive things in combat sports. I just feel like

1113
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 1: he's taken a ton of abuse.

1114
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: And what about a trilogy under the Eagle FC banner

1115
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: Luke Cyborg versus man hoof be there? Yeah, look, but

1116
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 2: you didn't pop for Gringo Fight Promotions or whatever. That

1117
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: the hell that thing was called? Luke?

1118
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: Dude. I've said this before. I can't stand that word,

1119
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: and I fucking hate it.

1120
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 2: Is it because the people? Is it because the Colombians

1121
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: call you that, Luke because they don't respect you?

1122
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, here's the funny part about it. They'll deny it.

1123
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: They'll deny it, and they'll be like, oh no, no,

1124
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: that word is neutral. Know the fuck it's not. Don't

1125
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: let don't let any person from Latin America ever tell

1126
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: you the word gringo is neutral. Know the fuck it

1127
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: is not. It is not neutral whatsoever. So that's the

1128
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: only part that I fucking hate. I can't stand how

1129
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: they pretend that it's neutral.

1130
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: It's the comedy special, the Gringo Poppy Luke, where you

1131
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: upset at that that he use the term? Yeah, because

1132
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: you hate that term. Nah.

1133
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: I mean some people own it, some people don't mind

1134
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: it as much as I do. I just can't stay.

1135
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: My only part is how disingenuous they are. Oh no,

1136
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: it's totally neutral. Stop lying. I know you're lying. I

1137
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: know how you use the word. It's not neutral at all. Okay,

1138
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: there you, Luko, thank you. Yes.

1139
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: Georgia Carhenian on the undercard here, so probably yeah.

1140
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: But also also here's the other part about this. Brett

1141
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: Johns is on this card, way on the bottom of

1142
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: the prelims. Brett Johns had a you know, I think

1143
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: Sterling and Munos and couldn't win in UFC. Got a

1144
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: couple more wins, lost to Danny excuse me, uh left,

1145
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: lost to Danny Sabtelo. But Danny Sabatelo is real good.

1146
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: How to win in his last belat Or fight. But

1147
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: it's this was a guy who was like doing some

1148
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: things in UFC. Was kind of a big signing for Bellet.

1149
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: A little surprised to see him on the prelim card.

1150
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, because he's a good fighter, very

1151
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 1: good submission grappler.

1152
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: Sometimes these prelims get changed at the last minute, and

1153
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: the really good fight on the early pregms does get

1154
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: bumped up. But well, you know, he still seems to

1155
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: have something left there, Luke, no question about it. Damn.

1156
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: I had something to tell you too. I gotta start

1157
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 2: writing a down Look, I can't, you know, I just

1158
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 2: can't process anymore in real time.

1159
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: Man. It's almost like you gotta do prep.

1160
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 2: Know. This isn't prep related, Luke. This is you know, gold.

1161
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: Gold appeared in my in my you know, in my

1162
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: best bank up here, and yeah, there we go.

1163
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's talk about topic number three

1164
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 1: here if we can, we talk about Francis and Ghanu.

1165
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: Francis and Ghanu. Back in the news, he did an

1166
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: interesting interview with the folks I used to work for

1167
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: shots to them, Sirius XM. I think he was with

1168
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith unlocking the cage, and he said a bunch

1169
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: of different things, but here's one thing I want to

1170
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: start with. There were two points he made that I

1171
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: want to talk about. The first one was this Jimmy

1172
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,720
Speaker 1: asked him about his contract status and what he said was, quote,

1173
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: my contract status right now is still the same. I

1174
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: haven't received any offer. It's the same. I hope in

1175
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: the next two to three months we get to deal

1176
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: with that to solve that. First things First, BC, are

1177
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: you surprised at all the UFC hasn't tried to rea

1178
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: he's still under contract, but to resign him to a

1179
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 1: new deal so they can retain his services going forward.

1180
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: Yes, because there's been like a few major signs up

1181
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 2: to this point that have screamed that that was likely

1182
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: not only Dana, you know, going public a couple of

1183
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 2: months ago and saying that he talked to Francis that time,

1184
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 2: ran into him at dinner there. You know, Francis's team

1185
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 2: wasn't around, and you know, while he still criticized Francis's team,

1186
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: he basically said, Francis is good, He's not the problem.

1187
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: And you know, then when you see in Ghanu cage

1188
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 2: side now granted it was in France, so he would

1189
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 2: have a want to be there. But that shows you

1190
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 2: that he's back and everything's good. You hope everything's good

1191
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: because that stumbling block of allowing him to be able

1192
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 2: to do things on the side like box Tyson Fury.

1193
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: You know, he seemed to give one of the like

1194
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 2: if I don't get that, I'm not signing. But the

1195
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 2: longer we wait, and I know we're waiting largely because

1196
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 2: of his injury, but the longer we wait, it feels

1197
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: like he has less leverage, Luke, because nobody's really talking

1198
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 2: about a fight with him in Fury right now at all,

1199
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 2: and or really seems to care and want it, unless

1200
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: it was like some Disney driven you know, agenda where

1201
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 2: everyone had to get involved, but even then you got

1202
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 2: to jump through some hoops there. I don't think Dana's

1203
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: gonna give on that, Luke. Why would they give on

1204
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: that right now? Right? You know, as much as I'm

1205
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: fighting for Angano in this battle to get what he deserves,

1206
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 2: that doesn't seem like a battle that should matter to them.

1207
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 2: They just let an ideas walk right like it's just

1208
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: kind of like what are you gonna do? There? So

1209
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 2: as the fan and me, let's get this shit figured out.

1210
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: I mean, because if that's the deal breaker, then sit

1211
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 2: down and talk about it. And he's either signing or

1212
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: he's not. But there's a lot of other things, you know,

1213
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: whether John Jones is gonna come back and fight Steepe

1214
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 2: for the interim title or any other switcheroo last minute

1215
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 2: or I mean, look, with the UFC love and should

1216
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 2: they cove it and love the idea of John Jones

1217
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 2: against Anghanu for the full championship. You're damn right they should.

1218
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: So let's piss or get off the pot on both sides. Really,

1219
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: let's get a resolution here, because Serah Gan's coming on,

1220
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 2: as are a few others in this heavyweight division is

1221
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: fun and ready here, but this is getting in the way.

1222
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: And you know, while I think Francis deserves by allowing

1223
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 2: one person to do something special, Luke, it's gonna open up,

1224
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: It's gonna open up a lot of problems for them.

1225
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 2: So they're gonna have to stand firm on this.

1226
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: Correct. Well, this is the weird part. We talked about this, like,

1227
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't fight Fury, who else could

1228
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: you fight? By the way, last night in attendance in

1229
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: the Contender series. You just see who was there on

1230
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: the boxing side. No, Deontay Wilder. Oh, Deontay Wilder was

1231
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: at the Apex last night. So you wonder like, could

1232
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: Anganu get a fight against Deontay? Let me ask you,

1233
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: be c how big would that be in boxing? Obviously

1234
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: would not be as big as Tyson Fury because Tyson

1235
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: Fury is just a much larger than live figure and

1236
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: they have a little bit of like back and forth

1237
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 1: and whatnot. Could Wilder versus uh In Ghanu could that

1238
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: sell five hundred thousand buys more?

1239
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: I think it could. Yeah. I mean, look, there's a

1240
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: there's a potential here where it doesn't cross over big

1241
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 2: because it doesn't have that attached star like a Tyson Fury.

1242
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: But I think the fans of both sports, and maybe

1243
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: I'm speaking out of my ass here, but I would

1244
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: think the fans of the both sports at the end

1245
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 2: of the day would tune in, would would would buy it,

1246
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 2: would want to see this, So it maybe not have

1247
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: the same crossover appeal that in theory you would do

1248
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: matching a former heavyweight boxing champion against the current UFC

1249
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: heavyweight champion. But that's one of those things given wild,

1250
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: there's still raw skill set in many ways outside of

1251
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 2: the toughness in the insane power. I don't know, like,

1252
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 2: if we have to do this bullshit, And the reason

1253
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: why I say bullshit is Fancet and Gana just won

1254
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: the title on bad knees in the worst you know,

1255
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 2: leverage situation ever. I want to see him fight Gone

1256
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 2: again and fight John Jones. I want to see him

1257
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: in his own sport do this. But if they had

1258
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: to do that, Luke, I think people would watch. Am

1259
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: I wrong? I think people would actually kind of care too,

1260
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: because while their fights are always crazy, it's not like

1261
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 2: the Fury out boxing him from the outside easily like this.

1262
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 2: You know, this would be a little wild for as

1263
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 2: long as it would last.

1264
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to me, it feels very different than

1265
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: Nate Diz potentially fighting Jake Paul, and both of those

1266
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: guys are clearly setting that up. I mean you can

1267
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: hear him talk about it now in public, Nate explicitly

1268
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, that's something I could potentially do, and

1269
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: on the other side, Jake being like, definitely, that's something

1270
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: I could potentially do. Jake has a narrower range of

1271
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: options so Nate DS to him is very attractive as

1272
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: an option. Fury has a lot of money already and

1273
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: is kind of I'm not going to say, close to

1274
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: the end of his career, but he keeps retiring and

1275
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: you just don't know how much longer he's going to

1276
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: be doing this. Jake is still kind of Jake needs

1277
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: Nate more than Fury needs Francis, so to the point

1278
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make here, and so for that reason,

1279
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: Francis like it just feels like the uncertainty with what

1280
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: he could do outside of the octagon in terms of

1281
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: getting big opponents with big paychecks is markedly different than

1282
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: what he could do inside of the UFC. And so

1283
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: the thing I come back to though, is this PC.

1284
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: I understand the UFC's hardball game here right where they're like, yeah,

1285
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: we'll just come to when we're ready, and you know,

1286
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: figure that out. We're not gonna rush this, like we're

1287
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: not You're not priority in that way. I get that. Still,

1288
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: does the UFC really want the headlines and the reality

1289
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: of Francis leaving as heavyweight champion? Is that's something that

1290
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: they want to do. We want to let a guy

1291
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: go under these circumstances. When he's achieved this status, I

1292
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: still feel like that does put pressure back on them.

1293
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 2: Okay, in theory, you're one hundred percent right, But had

1294
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 2: this happened directly after him knocking out stepe A miocicch

1295
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: where it look like, oh shit, like this guy's put

1296
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 2: it back together in a insane way, this could be

1297
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 2: the new you know, the new, the new prototype of

1298
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: just extreme heavyweight, like this was crazy. Since then, Luke

1299
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 2: hasn't lost, but you know, the age has added on,

1300
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: the knee injuries have added on. You could argue, even

1301
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: with heavyweights aging later than normal, that his overall long

1302
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: term value has decreased. Certainly since you know that jab

1303
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: of death that he finished steep A with, So I

1304
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: think he's lost some of that leverage naturally. And also

1305
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 2: it's not as if the UFC has nothing else in

1306
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: that heavyweight cupboard, and I think that's the key part.

1307
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 2: If they didn't, if this was like a normal heavyweight era,

1308
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: you might be like, well, dude, like Francis, can you

1309
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 2: know he could be her Mike Tyson for a short

1310
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 2: season here, But they have the potential of John Jones

1311
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 2: coming in and winning the heavyweight championship and you know,

1312
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 2: getting past people of the talent if he gets there,

1313
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 2: of steep A and Cyril gone to get there, and

1314
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: they've got attractions like touey Vasa. Now, so it's like,

1315
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: do I think Francis deserved the right to create freedom

1316
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: for himself? Yes, he took big chances that paid off.

1317
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: There is money to be made. But I think your

1318
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: point is right. And the longer we wait, he has

1319
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 2: less leverage and maybe the appetite for it gets less

1320
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: and less. Like as much as I'd be fired up

1321
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 2: for that wild fight, like that's some weird theater that

1322
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 2: I just got excited for, is that worth giving up

1323
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 2: the chance to fight John Jones for the championship and

1324
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 2: you know all of that. I don't think there's a

1325
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 2: middle ground here. UFC cannot set this precedent loop. They

1326
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 2: can't do it. They can't, all right.

1327
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: The second quote that he had that I thought was

1328
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: interesting from the same interview with Jimmy Smith. Quote this

1329
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: is from Francis. I'm sure over time UFC fighters, we

1330
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: are losing a lot of power. The company is getting big,

1331
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: getting stronger, and we have no power. We have nobody

1332
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: there to advocate for us just in the room making decisions.

1333
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: Nobody cares for the fighters, even though there are about

1334
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: seven hundred fighters and the roster. Then I think they

1335
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: should consider somebody to advocate for fighters, because I don't

1336
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: believe they make all those decisions to harm fighters correct,

1337
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: but sometimes they just don't understand the fighters position. This

1338
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: is the point I try to make all the time.

1339
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: It's not that I think the UFC constantly operates in

1340
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: bad faith. What I do believe, and this is what

1341
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: I try to explain to people constantly, is that if

1342
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: you're a fighter in the UFC, you can be as

1343
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: company guy as you want. Your interests do not naturally

1344
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: align with the promotion, and that's okay, they're not necessarily

1345
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: supposed to. What you want is to have enough power

1346
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: to make sure that your interests and their interests can

1347
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: largely be met with some kind of mutually beneficial situation,

1348
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: not one where the UFC has or any promotion has

1349
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: so much power that they dictate what happens. And then

1350
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: you just have to kind of like have Stockholm syndrome

1351
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: about it to like the way that it goes. Do

1352
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: you share my sentiment? Do you share Francis the sentiment.

1353
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: Although I got to say it's a nice sentiment. But

1354
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: if there's no real plan to put it in place,

1355
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: isn't there.

1356
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 2: No, there isn't. Still there's still a lack of organization.

1357
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 2: There's still like if Francis goes his own way here

1358
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: and just says I've earned the right to try it

1359
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: right like krpe DM, let's just do it, that would

1360
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 2: be an advancement along with you know, Nate walking away

1361
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 2: on his own terms, certainly in the idea of more

1362
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 2: people taking stock of their age and their opportunity and

1363
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 2: how much they've been paid in the freedom they don't have.

1364
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 2: But is it a game changer right now? Not enough

1365
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: to organize? And this comes this might come down to

1366
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 2: like money versus legacy, meaning Francis has some killer, big

1367
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 2: name opportunities if he resigns with the UFC, But if

1368
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 2: he is held up on that idea of whether I

1369
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 2: win or lose this battle with money and taking this chance,

1370
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 2: somebody's got to take this chance. Somebody's got to if

1371
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 2: he wants to do that noble robin hood thing. Luke

1372
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: it long term, it's it's gonna help the cause. It

1373
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: won't fix it though, And that's the key thing he's

1374
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 2: got to look at right now, because you know, it's

1375
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: not like he's gonna box Jake Paul either.

1376
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: Luke.

1377
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 2: You remember when Jake Paul sat down with us and

1378
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: he mentioned that this catchweight bout against Silva will be

1379
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 2: one eighty seven And his answer was because he's trying

1380
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 2: to get himself down lowered to one seventy five, and

1381
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 2: that's the weight class he sees himself boxing in, you know,

1382
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 2: for his greatest success. And that would make sense financially

1383
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 2: given that if he's ever gonna box an atzm McGregor,

1384
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 2: those are basically lightweight and welterweights, you know, so he

1385
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 2: would have to meet them a little bit further down.

1386
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 2: But if Jake Paul was available as a heavyweight option

1387
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 2: for Anghana, would this change this at all?

1388
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: How would it change it?

1389
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 2: Where he'd just be like, I got enough money making

1390
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: opportunities out here, I'm gonna I'm gonna walk away from

1391
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: the UFC.

1392
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing, so okay, so uh, our

1393
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: producer Gaff is like maybe a fighter representative fighter at

1394
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: large within the UFC, elected by the fighters help decisions

1395
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: and voice their interests to the UFC. Dude, unless they

1396
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: had the compelling power of law behind them, they ain't

1397
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: gonna be able to do shit. They're gonna be able

1398
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: to do shit, like it would just be some kind

1399
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: of advisory like, oh, I advise you to act in

1400
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: X way or for why benefit. But they don't really

1401
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: have any meaningful way of doing anything. That's what I

1402
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: keep saying, like, if you want change, you have to

1403
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: have the power of the law behind you. Otherwise it

1404
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: is all fucking window dressing. It is utterly meaningless. I

1405
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: know that doesn't answer your question, but hey, I don't

1406
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: want to react to it.

1407
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 2: The only reason I brought up that Jake Francis idea

1408
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 2: is because Jake was operating basically cruiser weight, so he's

1409
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 2: not that far. I don't think it's a good idea

1410
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 2: for him to do that. But do you think that

1411
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: would be like a monster pay per view?

1412
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's I don't know. If I don't,

1413
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: i'd be weird. Yeah, Like that'd be like, I mean, no,

1414
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: he'd be too big. Because here's the thing you did

1415
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: the logan Paul Maywood, a thing which was super weird,

1416
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: but the way you could make it work was that one,

1417
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 1: it was an exhibition, and two the guy who was

1418
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: much better was also much smaller. Here the guy would

1419
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: be much better and much bigger. Like, Yeah, I don't

1420
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: think that works unless he goes in there and just

1421
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: absolutely fucking starches Anderson Silva, which I don't see his likely,

1422
01:04:55,520 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: but one never knows, One never knows. All right, let's

1423
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: move on here BC topic number four. This one is

1424
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: kind of interesting. Paulo Costa has basically how would you

1425
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: say this? BC? He has basically claimed that he's the

1426
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: guy that has taken the mojo and everything else from

1427
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: hamsat CHIMAIV. In fact, here was his quotes. I think

1428
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: it was on the MMA hour when he said this.

1429
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: By the way, Shirtless during this interview quote, I stole

1430
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: some of his hype. I stole his night's sleep, I

1431
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: stole his cap, I stole his main event fight. I

1432
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: stole everything, Chamaia, you need to do something, mf or.

1433
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: I stole everything that you had, everything you had, your hat,

1434
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: I stole your night's sleep. Blah blah blah. You're disturbed,

1435
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: so crazy. Oh I cannot do this. I will die.

1436
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: So I think I need to fight that guy. BC.

1437
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: How much of what Costa said, is true, how much

1438
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: did he steal from Chemaiah? But more importantly is this

1439
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: the setup to an inevitable Paulo Costa Hamsat Chamayah fight.

1440
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 2: This is really fun and juicy, and let's just first

1441
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,919
Speaker 2: off say this, as far as gimmicks go, the one

1442
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 2: that Paulo Acosta is now fully operating within. Dude, I

1443
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: love it seeing him on aerial show in studio, shirtless

1444
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, with the microphone taped right you know,

1445
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 2: on his peck and just acting like a suave motherfucker,

1446
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 2: like he has adopted the cool heel persona in pro

1447
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 2: wrestling to like a fine wine. Like there's some cheesiness,

1448
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 2: but it's almost brilliant cheesiness. The secret juice is brilliant.

1449
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 2: He's hilarious. His memes are aggressive and out of control,

1450
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 2: but this is perfect angling for the right for the

1451
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 2: biggest fight available for him that fits him so perfectly.

1452
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 2: It's not that necessarily at middleweight he would be some

1453
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 2: big favorite over chamaiev No, but trying to bring Tamaiah

1454
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 2: in when he's coming off the controversy and the mistwaight

1455
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 2: and now he's got to go back up a division,

1456
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 2: knowing that if there's bad blood like this, you cook

1457
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 2: this together, you're gonna get him aggressive and want him

1458
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 2: to fight you for this version of Paula Costa. Those

1459
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 2: are the type of opponents he should want, you know.

1460
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: To play it up emotionally, make it a big, fun brawl,

1461
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: and open up opportunities to finish it. This almost would

1462
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,439
Speaker 2: have like a grudge match superfight field. Maybe not super fight,

1463
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 2: not like you know, huge home run pay per view

1464
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 2: main event success, but there'd be like a viral energy

1465
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 2: behind this fight. And even though I felt like Tremia

1466
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 2: have already could have fought for the Welterway title before

1467
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 2: what happened in this weight debacle, and still feel like

1468
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: with the win, they could just say f punishment and

1469
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 2: put him right back in there against the winner of

1470
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 2: Usman and Edwards, and it'd still not be the most

1471
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 2: egregious thing they've done in a while. Right, But if

1472
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 2: you're not gonna do that, and you're gonna either force

1473
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: him to middleweight or at least make him earn back

1474
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 2: the opportunity to fight for the Welterway title by proving

1475
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 2: he can make weight, which means go on a detour.

1476
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 2: There's one hell of a detour, Luke, there's one hell

1477
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 2: of a detour. This This would be one of those

1478
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 2: spicy fights that is going to guarantee action and whether

1479
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 2: it gets cringe or not enjoy. Buckle up, this ride's

1480
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 2: gonna get weird now. I can't wait. Look, I need this,

1481
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: and that's all want I think. I need this. You don't.

1482
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 2: I know you don't feel the way I do. I

1483
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 2: know you don't.

1484
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: I don't exactly in the same way, only because I'm

1485
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: a little bit worried about the consequences, which is he's this.

1486
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, everyone wants to be like, what

1487
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: if he could do the Champ Champ stuff. Dude, nobody

1488
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: except a man that can do the Champchamp stuff. Because

1489
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 1: you can't stay active enough and healthy enough. It's not possible.

1490
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 2: And they didn't give people a chance to do it,

1491
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 2: kind of ruin the model. And then they didn't give

1492
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 2: DC the chance, like they started stripping people, you know.

1493
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the other part is too, is like

1494
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: we don't even know if he can reliably make welterweight.

1495
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: You know already, So there's a lot of questions about

1496
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: Tamaiav's future. Folks were asking me like where I you know,

1497
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: before this whole thing happened, I would say, you know,

1498
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: giving tamaiav. Someone inside that top eleven to fifteen space,

1499
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 1: jumping right to Costa. I mean, here's the thing. If

1500
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 1: he goes in there in dummies Costa, which he might

1501
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 1: not do, but let's say that he does. You know,

1502
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: now he's on a title track at one eighty five,

1503
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: and I think his career gets a little bit confusing

1504
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: at that point about what weight you're going to be

1505
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: and what your next reasonable fight is, because I would

1506
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 1: love to see if he can now again, if he

1507
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 1: can't make welterweight, then this changes the conversation completely. But

1508
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 1: if he can still make welterweight, I would like to

1509
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: see that process played all the way out. I know

1510
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: he has to take probably, I know it is a

1511
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: strong likelihood that he'll likely have to take a one

1512
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 1: eight five fight next by virtue of how badly he

1513
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 1: missed at one seventy this last time, and again, if

1514
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 1: he can't make one seventy anymore, then I say, all

1515
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: systems go. But if we're just trying to get a

1516
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: sense of, like how he would actually do at one

1517
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: eighty five, you know, jumping right to Paulo Costa. I mean,

1518
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: what's his other best middleweight win. It's someone who's not

1519
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: even close to like, not even close to ranked.

1520
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not trying to advocate that this is a

1521
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 2: smart move for him. I'm just trying to set the

1522
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 2: foundation that it's likely he'll have to pay some penance

1523
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 2: for what he did.

1524
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: Right.

1525
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 2: It's like and it's like, what did he do well

1526
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 2: if he had a legitimate medical issue and a doctor

1527
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 2: that was quick to say no cut, He's not a

1528
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 2: bad of a villain as he may look if it

1529
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 2: was if it was that situation. Right, But even with

1530
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 2: that said, if he's going to have to pay a

1531
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 2: penalty to them and do a fight he doesn't want,

1532
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 2: like obviously Colby could kind of answer all these questions, right,

1533
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 2: it's in the same division. Give him a chance to

1534
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: make the weight once again. If he goes in there

1535
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 2: and beats Colby in this suddenly must seat number one

1536
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 2: contender fight, then yeah, go forward to the Walterway title.

1537
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 2: If I was his advisor, I'd advise him to kiss

1538
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 2: up to the company and do whatever it takes to

1539
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 2: get as close back to that Welterway title picture as

1540
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 2: you can, because for as long as you're gonna be

1541
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 2: able to physically make it. And there's probably something he

1542
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 2: did wrong or that's something that went wrong in that

1543
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 2: training camp and that cut, you know, that stared him

1544
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 2: off road. But I think you want to go in

1545
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 2: that direction. But if they would make him or at

1546
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 2: least put pressure on him to do something like this

1547
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 2: against Costa, just knowing the ratings and action potential, God,

1548
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 2: that's a sexy Molotov cocktail they could cook up right there, Luke,

1549
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 2: And you'd have to put away aside your better judgments

1550
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 2: and just say, I may get a little on me.

1551
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 2: It might be like front row at a Gallagher concert.

1552
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 2: But let's go. Let's let's let's get ready for some

1553
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 2: crushed watermelon here, Luke, Like, let's let's do this shit.

1554
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 2: Let's let's get a front row seat to the sex

1555
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 2: this show. This is what it is, Luke. Okay, this

1556
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 2: is what it is. I mean, could that be an

1557
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 2: event of pay per view? Yeah, it probably could, Luke,

1558
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 2: It probably could.

1559
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 1: Right, who wins? Who wins?

1560
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 2: I don't know? Okay, who wins? Tamaia? If I would

1561
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 2: lean toward because I think and I keep spouting this,

1562
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 2: but I believe it. I think Costa post wine Gate

1563
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 2: is just gonna be a wild man. That's gonna be

1564
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 2: his fighting style, and he kind of always was, but

1565
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 2: it was a little more refinement, and we can argue

1566
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 2: that on a different day. Chamaiah should win, I think,

1567
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 2: but it's gonna be really hard and it's gonna be

1568
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 2: really fun to watch. Luke, you'd have to agree with that.

1569
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know who would win. To answered the question,

1570
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: but like, let's imagine a world where he tries to

1571
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 1: fight Coasta, wins the first round, loses the subsequent two,

1572
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: and now what do you do with Chamaiah at one

1573
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 1: eighty five? Like you just rushed him all the way

1574
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: to the front of the line. It blew up in

1575
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 1: your face, and now where are you? Like? I to me,

1576
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 1: it's like again, if he can't even make one seventy,

1577
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: well then fuck it. Like it's one eighty five and

1578
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: that's just what the end of the story is. But

1579
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 1: if he can still make one seventy, I really believe

1580
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: that these detours, as Gallagher Watermelon friendly as they might be,

1581
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 1: should be put to the side until we can figure

1582
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: out exactly how much like how what is the actual

1583
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: forward path for tremiad Is it at one seventy? Is

1584
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: it at one eighty five? Pick one, and let's see

1585
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 1: it played out.

1586
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 2: That's I think the company should try to get him

1587
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 2: to one seventy. I think they should, you know, square

1588
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 2: that up, because then you have a potential to build

1589
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 2: up a two division champ potential. Look, he's gonna have

1590
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 2: to have a he'sn't have to prove a lot to us.

1591
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 2: Amit away, But you're right in saying, let's figure it out,

1592
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 2: let's get there. Look, do you I'm trying to look

1593
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 2: up if Gallagher's still alive. I know his brother Stole's

1594
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 2: gimmick for a while. I'm sure he's an old piece

1595
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 2: of shit. Now do you would you feel it ironic?

1596
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 2: Don't you think if he vaped watermelon in his old age?

1597
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 2: Is that too? It's too cute, it's too perfect?

1598
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 1: Right?

1599
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 2: Who Gallagher?

1600
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't care if he's alive or dead.

1601
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what if he was a watermelon vape fan

1602
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 2: like yourself, Luke, That'd be incredible, right, That'd be like

1603
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 2: finding out Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy? Right?

1604
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 1: Sure? All right?

1605
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 2: Great, I'll see at whose line, is it anyway, Luke, Well,

1606
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 2: later on when we work on our improv skills, that's great.

1607
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: BC just wants you to like you're the volleyball where

1608
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: the person like tease up so that he could fucking slam.

1609
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: He just wants you to do that with all of

1610
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: his fucking jokes. Even if you hate him. I don't

1611
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: know what to do with you. All right, it's good

1612
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: a topic five quick hitters. BC. This must pull out

1613
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 1: your heart strings. I mean, it must just make you

1614
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: so happy. Nate Diaz potentially looking to dabble in WWE.

1615
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: Oh fucking lord kill me now?

1616
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1617
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: Well all right from Henry Shudo quote, we just saw Nadas.

1618
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: I saw him in the restroom. He was high as

1619
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: a kite and so was I and we looked at

1620
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: each other. He's hilarious anyway, he's looking to dabble in

1621
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: WWE to make money. We got to use the brand

1622
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 1: that the UFC has given us and allays other platforms

1623
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: and continue to make money as an entrepreneur. There he

1624
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 1: is with a gentleman known as Triple H. Is that

1625
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: Stephanie McMahon with him?

1626
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 2: That is that's his wife?

1627
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: Yes? And who is the donk all the way to

1628
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 1: the left.

1629
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: I don't have that in front of me. It looks

1630
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 2: like a young Brett Okamoto possibly.

1631
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: O Kamoto, wear chains and his hat backwards.

1632
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 2: No, I said, a young version of him before he

1633
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 2: got it all like tight shirt and you know, there

1634
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 2: you go. And then Joanna was saying stuff and you

1635
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 2: know here we are.

1636
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, dude, you want to bang

1637
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: Brett Okamoto so bad?

1638
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: True, he's a great man. He is a great man, though, Luke,

1639
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 2: So I'm not watching the product anymore as we know.

1640
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 2: I don't believe, but post Vince McMahon exit, apparently Triple H,

1641
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 2: who now has hold of creative is making an immediate

1642
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 2: impact in taking away the ridiculousness and making it good again.

1643
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: I haven't tuned in. It's still a hard sell for me.

1644
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to see an ad as in a match,

1645
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 2: but I do feel he could effortlessly pull off a

1646
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 2: fun build to like a big angle in which you

1647
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 2: know he interferes from the crowd or is you know

1648
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like I think like look, it takes

1649
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 2: a special type of variety like versatility on the microphone

1650
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 2: to walk into WW and like be a good promo

1651
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 2: right away and have the time, you know, the acting

1652
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 2: chops in the moment and delivery. I actually think he

1653
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 2: could do that effort effortlessly, which sounds crazy because him

1654
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 2: and his brother are considered you know, bad interviews. Now

1655
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 2: so bad. It's good, but you know, bad traditional interviews.

1656
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 2: But I think he could do this, Luke, if you

1657
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 2: wanted to, not for like a real thing, just for

1658
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 2: a fun off. You don't care either way. All right,

1659
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 2: let's keep the show going. We had a good Yeah,

1660
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: we had yeah.

1661
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: Right, I can't hear you. You put the fucking mic

1662
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: on the camera on him. I can't hear him. God

1663
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 1: damn it.

1664
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 2: All right, well you know, sorry, hang.

1665
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: On, dude, this is just technical difficulties. What can I do?

1666
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 2: It's the history of our show.

1667
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: There we go. Now, I'm back, I'm back, all right,

1668
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 1: all right. I didn't hear a word you said, but.

1669
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 2: I worry about I keep just keep the show going, Luca.

1670
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,759
Speaker 1: I just don't care about an ideas going to WW whatsoever.

1671
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: All right, how about this? We have some sound. Apparently,

1672
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 1: according to Freddie Roach, Mike Tyson watched Jake parse Jake

1673
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 1: Paul spar I think it was that wild card for

1674
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: thirty seconds and then walked out of the room. If

1675
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: we have sound, let's play it so we can react

1676
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 1: to it. Well, he's before right, yeah, in the wild card.

1677
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 2: Well, Paul has too.

1678
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 1: He came there with Tyson, and Tyson looked at him

1679
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: and left. Mike Tyson he is Jayson. So Mike watched

1680
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: Jake spar or what do you watch him in the

1681
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: watch thirty.

1682
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 2: Seconds the spy and left said Freddie, can we go

1683
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 2: down stairs and look at the pictures? Can we go

1684
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 2: down stairs and look at the pictures.

1685
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: And look at the pictures?

1686
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 2: That's where the real my, my, my, that's my and.

1687
01:16:54,240 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: BC. How reliable is a guy like uh fred Roach

1688
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 1: in this sense like how believe?

1689
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Freddy's reliable to a degree, Like there's some

1690
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 2: hyperbole that surrounds the way Freddy talks about He's pretty reliable.

1691
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 2: I think that the context is what we don't know,

1692
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 2: Like right now, you do see Jake and Mike Tyson

1693
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 2: kind of going back and forth to a certain degree

1694
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 2: through the media, But we don't know if this happened

1695
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 2: like six years ago, right, you know what I mean,

1696
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,799
Speaker 2: where Mike walked in and you know, maybe maybe maybe uh,

1697
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 2: Freddy said hey, look there's a YouTuber in the ring,

1698
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 2: and he probably laughed at it and walked downstairs. Maybe.

1699
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,759
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't feel like this was last week,

1700
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 2: but we can't deny though the Jake Mike Tyson like

1701
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 2: marketing and promotional potential here, like I don't want that, Luke.

1702
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 2: But I also don't know what that fight looks like,

1703
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 2: so I think this is just people kind of stirring

1704
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 2: up hoping they get that. Do you feel like that

1705
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 2: fight is in any way realistic?

1706
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:57,839
Speaker 1: No, m m no, Nor would I have much interest

1707
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 1: the silver one interest in Well, I'll tell you this much.

1708
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: How about this if Jake goes in there and surprises

1709
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: me and just lays it on Anderson Silva and beats

1710
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 1: his ass, which again I don't think is likely. But

1711
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: let's just say combat sports is crazy. We've seen crazy things.

1712
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: But if he does that, then my attitude would change.

1713
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: This is why to me, it's like the Tyra Woodley fights.

1714
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: I don't know how much they really told us about

1715
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 1: Jake that, but that one overhand right was phenomenal against

1716
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: Tyro when he put him out in the second fight,

1717
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 1: that was great. Again, I've got off tape study on him.

1718
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna redo it for the Anderson Silvil fight, so

1719
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 1: you'll see some stuff from that. I expect improvements from that.

1720
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 1: But he would have like the Anderson Silvi fight, to me,

1721
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: is the first time he's gonna get like a reasonably

1722
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 1: good test, a reasonably good test for his abilities. So

1723
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 1: if he goes in there and shines, not just beats Silva,

1724
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 1: but shines, yes, I think then that would change the

1725
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 1: equation as old as Mike is. But if he goes

1726
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: in there and just you know, loses or gets knocked

1727
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: out or you know, it's not that great. I don't

1728
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:03,759
Speaker 1: know what the point would be of a Mike Tyson

1729
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 1: fight other than just to.

1730
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 2: You know, that does have stupid potential. Maybe not you know,

1731
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:10,719
Speaker 2: Maymac potential.

1732
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: No, but like he's got to don't you agree he's

1733
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 1: million and a half against but don't you agree on

1734
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: he's got to prove something against Silva to get not

1735
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: just bigger names, but to get like, of course, credibility,

1736
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: but to get people to believe these are things that

1737
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,879
Speaker 1: they should take seriously. Taking Silva is a is no bullshit?

1738
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 2: How about this idea? It's a stupid idea. But who

1739
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 2: would you favor in a Jake Paul vittor Belfort boxing

1740
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 2: match no drug testing involved?

1741
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 1: Probably Vitor.

1742
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 2: Like if I'm Jake, I wouldn't mess with that, right, Yeah?

1743
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: Probably Vitor, Probably Vitor. Yeah, all right, so there's that.

1744
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: Freddie Roach says Mike Tyson. Didn't care, all right? Match

1745
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 1: that got made. UFC two eighty two BC Chris Dawkas

1746
01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: taken on Gyrzenio Rosenstrouk. This will be, of course UFC

1747
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 1: two eighty two, December tenth at the Team Mobile Arena.

1748
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: It joins uh Drigis Duplessi versus Darren until TJ. Brown,

1749
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 1: Eric Silva. Billy Q shouts to Billy Hugh taking on

1750
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 1: Alexander hernandez Edmund Shabazi and Dalka Lunguiambula and then Robbi Laler,

1751
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,520
Speaker 1: Santiago Ponzin Nibbio. I don't know what the headlining contest

1752
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 1: of that event will be just yet, but you like

1753
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: this fight or not? Have you? Wait?

1754
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 2: I do? By the way, Bill, I think Billy Q

1755
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 2: done slipped one by the goalie there. Luke, you know,

1756
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 2: congratulations to the Q family on the further congratulations, yes,

1757
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 2: but yeah, dude, this is a you got some explaining

1758
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 2: to do type of fight, you know, like almost you know,

1759
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 2: I mean like the winner's going to make an Evans up.

1760
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,440
Speaker 2: The loser is gonna get sent down to that secondary

1761
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 2: EPL league, Luke, And that's the way it is. Okay,

1762
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 2: it's gonna see action too, but Luke, don't forget something

1763
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 2: here Rosenstruk from Surinam. Milvin Mannhoff from Surinam. And did

1764
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 2: you know a former UFC champion, Ermaine Durandom's father is surnames.

1765
01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 1: A lots Well, the Suriname was I think formerly a

1766
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 1: Dutch colony, so you have a lot of them who

1767
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: are mixed. Like if you're hear Melvin Manhoff speak English,

1768
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 1: he's got a Dutch accent to be clear.

1769
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 2: Right, So put some sermonist respect on GDR's name. That

1770
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: was the point of this exercise, Luke.

1771
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, glad you're here. Michael Chandler explains why

1772
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 1: Poorier has taken the fight personally against him. He would

1773
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 1: again with scumsos from the MMA hour quote. Here's what

1774
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: he says. I've made fights personal in the past and

1775
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 1: it's never worked out really that well. But truthfully, I

1776
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: think those moments or scenarios warranted somewhat of a personal beef.

1777
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: I really honestly have nothing against Dustin. What I think

1778
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: it's the case is, I think it's personal for him.

1779
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 1: Of course, what he's saying is because of me, not

1780
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: towards me, if that makes sense. I think Dustin's been

1781
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: the guy for a very very long time, and I

1782
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: was the guy who came in and I've done what

1783
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: I've done. I don't think it's necessarily directed towards me personally,

1784
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 1: just this figure of this guy who was stepping inside

1785
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 1: the cage. So what he's saying is this guy who's like,

1786
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of a little bit of

1787
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: that Nate Diaz post, Michael Johnson, you're taking everything out

1788
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 1: wor do you think he's right that what makes Dustin

1789
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: so angry? Who, by the way, is not a guy

1790
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: who gets like super amped up, you know in these

1791
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,600
Speaker 1: like beef scenarios. I mean, guess with Connor, but a

1792
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: lot of that was like on fight week itself. What

1793
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: do you make of Michael chandler statements. I mean, he's.

1794
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 2: Probably right to a certain degree, it doesn't you know,

1795
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 2: it's not juicy for me Look, this fight's gonna be

1796
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 2: freaking awesome, And I do think there's been a natural

1797
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 2: dislike between the two and maybe they're like, you have

1798
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 2: to wonder Chandler has been insanely opportunistic and by the

1799
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 2: way he has performed and wins or losses admirably, and

1800
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 2: he was that close to stopping the current champion, So

1801
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 2: like there's respect on his name, but look, he's looked

1802
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 2: at almost shamelessly at this point as a company man.

1803
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 2: You think Pourier overall feels to a certain degree that

1804
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 2: even though he got to the McGregor level and did

1805
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,759
Speaker 2: two mess you know, monster pay per views, that maybe

1806
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 2: he's owed more or maybe he's you know what I mean, Like,

1807
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 2: do you feel that way like there's a chip on

1808
01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 2: his shoulder still regarding that Pier, Yeah, or do you

1809
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 2: feel like he's been paid? He feels like he's been

1810
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 2: paid in full.

1811
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,759
Speaker 1: To borrow his catchphrase, I certainly feel like the McGregor

1812
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: fights were financially rewarding for him in a way that

1813
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 1: like definitely checked something off the box of his career

1814
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: that he wanted, you know, like, hey, I want to

1815
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 1: make a certain amount of money or I want to

1816
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 1: make big checks or being big fights or whatever, like

1817
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 1: whatever financial reward that did that set up his family.

1818
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: I think it definitely gave him that. So there's that

1819
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: there might be a little bit something to the Chandler thing,

1820
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 1: like coming in like you think you're hot shit, I've

1821
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 1: been the guy. A little bit of territorialism, but like,

1822
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 1: here's the point about Paria. He's gonna fight balls out

1823
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 1: either way. Yeah, he's Chandler too, right, Like these two

1824
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: dudes have been around the block. They're I mean, you know,

1825
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 1: a lot of it is they're very different fighters, but

1826
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: in terms of like how they see themselves, there's a

1827
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: lot of like seeing the other. It's a little bit

1828
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,679
Speaker 1: of the Spider Man meme like, hey you're a fucking

1829
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: legend who gives balls out fights. Hey you're a legend

1830
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: who gives balls out fights. And then they kind of

1831
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: just meeting in the middle here. But it is weird

1832
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 1: for Pooria, a little bit weird for him to be

1833
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 1: so you know, agitated in the way that he has

1834
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 1: been given that Chandler like, you know, McGregor says like

1835
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: foul shit about people, Chandler really doesn't, you know. So

1836
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of an extra thing here going

1837
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 1: on the origins of which I'm not quite sure about.

1838
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 1: All Right, Corey Sandhagen, again, we're just doing the MMA

1839
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 1: our recap here. Cory Sandhagen was on the MMA Hour,

1840
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 1: but he had an interesting argument about Henry Shudo. He

1841
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: was asked like, do you think that guy will get

1842
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: a title shot? And he says, what is he doing?

1843
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell that guy is doing.

1844
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 1: He's going to be a curveball forever if it's his decision.

1845
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,719
Speaker 1: He's been off for so long. Why would the UFC

1846
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 1: do that? Why would they invest in someone who is

1847
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 1: just going to probably peace out after he maybe wins

1848
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 1: the title again. I don't really see Henry as someone

1849
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 1: you can build off of because I don't think he's

1850
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 1: gonna stick around for long. I think he's gonna try

1851
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 1: and cherry pick some fights, make another title fight, whether

1852
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: to make money or legacy, whatever his motivator is, I

1853
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 1: can't say. But I really don't think he's going to

1854
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 1: go and do do it because he wants to stick around.

1855
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 1: He's gonna do it because well, I don't know. I

1856
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 1: just don't get it. I don't see him sticking around

1857
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: bc A is the UFC gonna give Henry Suhudo a

1858
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 1: title shot? And B do you understand San Jagan sentiment?

1859
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: Is he right? Uh?

1860
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 2: For B, I'd say I definitely understand. And I think

1861
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 2: this is the right defense for a fighter right now

1862
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 2: who feels like he started to put things back together,

1863
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 2: wants to get right back in the dance against the

1864
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 2: very big ones. And that's sort of what you should say.

1865
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 2: You shouldn't want Suhudo to parachute in. But if the

1866
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 2: question is should or will the UFC do just that,

1867
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 2: I think it comes down to whether or not they

1868
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 2: need to. They don't necessarily need Henry Suhudo's star power

1869
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:41,759
Speaker 2: at the moment. Adding it just makes this really historically

1870
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 2: deep bandonweight division at this moment even sicker, like just crazy.

1871
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,640
Speaker 2: But you know, I think Henry's leverage would have went

1872
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 2: up if they, you know, had a long reigning champion

1873
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 2: and just had no one to match him with. It's

1874
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 2: not that case at all. So I think there's gonna

1875
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 2: be a play in about for sure, against a big name.

1876
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 2: They're gonna make Henry earn it. They didn't like the

1877
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 2: way Henry walked away to begin with, and not that

1878
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 2: I assume that thing that they're at bad or at

1879
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 2: odds right now, I don't think at all. But I

1880
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 2: think you know, that was a he did his own

1881
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 2: thing on his own terms, and I don't think they

1882
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 2: loved it in that moment. Look for him, Luke, and

1883
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 2: I think you'd agree with this. To have to beat

1884
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 2: the highest profile, most dangerous name at the moment when

1885
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 2: he does come back, who's already not in a scheduled

1886
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 2: Bandamway title fight, to get his chance to fight for

1887
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 2: the belt again. It comes down to like a supplying

1888
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 2: to men.

1889
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 1: To me, I think that they might give Suhudo a

1890
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 1: title shot again. I don't think immediately. I think he'd probably,

1891
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 1: to your point, have to earn it against somebody kind

1892
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 1: of interesting, somebody good, maybe against san Hagen himself, and

1893
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 1: then they might because the problem is, like, dude, at

1894
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 1: this point, Suhudo's got a bit of a name. You know.

1895
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 1: Obviously he has an incredible history, given that he has

1896
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 1: the two weight classes with belts, and he was the

1897
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: Olympic champion. Like, I understand san Hagan's point that they

1898
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 1: might be hesitant, but especially after like you know, Saint

1899
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 1: Pierre beating Bisping, and then piecing out again. But I

1900
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 1: feel like if they feel like they could make more

1901
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 1: money doing it, or they could get a bigger fight

1902
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: out of it, especially if the calendar needs one, Yeah,

1903
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: they'll do it. They absolutely will do it. I would,

1904
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 1: I would, I would. I would caution Sanhagen here to

1905
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 1: not underestimate what Henry Suhuto is capable of getting from

1906
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:17,719
Speaker 1: the UFC.

1907
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 2: The history of me watching Henry Sahudo has typically been

1908
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 2: me underestimating him and then finding out at each turn

1909
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 2: that he's much smarter than I assumed, you know, based

1910
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 2: on some of his you know character that that he's

1911
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 2: broken out. He seems to be taking a GSP like

1912
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 2: slow road to make this comeback perfect. Like he's not

1913
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 2: rushing into any opportunities. Yeah, he tried to throw his

1914
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 2: name in for Volkanovski, which would make a lot of

1915
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 2: sense in you know, financial and historical terms, But it

1916
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 2: seems like he's taken his time and waiting for not

1917
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 2: only the right opening, but that he's physically and mentally there.

1918
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 2: Look he I mean, he's and he's Look he's he's

1919
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 2: kinda we don't have a union. We don't have you know,

1920
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 2: there's only so much leverage a fighter can have. But

1921
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 2: would he just pulled off and executed. I don't think

1922
01:27:58,160 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 2: it's gonna be easy for the next guy to try that,

1923
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 2: But it's it's working, Luke, it seems to be working.

1924
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: I would agree with that all right. Last, but not

1925
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 1: least for quick hitters BC. Chris Avila, the understudy of

1926
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 1: Nate Diaz, one time UFC fighter. I think he's done

1927
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: with beltor I'm not even sure anymore. Is gonna be

1928
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 1: fighting a dude by the name of doctor Mike on

1929
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 1: the Paul Silva prelim card. I'm told doctor Mike has

1930
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 1: an enormous social media following. I don't know who he is.

1931
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 1: Who is HEBC?

1932
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 2: I think he's a young medical influencer who has twenty

1933
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 2: three million combined followers. I've never seen a second of

1934
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 2: his content, but you know, from my research for this card, Luke,

1935
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch every second there is. I'm like, so,

1936
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 2: is he like a younger doctor Oz? And then I

1937
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 2: got dirty looks from people, But I'm gonna find out.

1938
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna get in on this. Apparently a

1939
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 2: lot of people know this guy's got a little bit

1940
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 2: of boxing experience, like in the Anisen Gibb realm, you know,

1941
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 2: the gas station realm. But this is interesting.

1942
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, pre diabetic gas station attendant realm.

1943
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I mean Avilack. He's done this before. He's

1944
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 2: got hands, he's fought, you know, on these type undercards before.

1945
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 2: So this is interesting, Luke.

1946
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 1: Also, do you is interesting as a strong word, all right.

1947
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 2: But MVP Promotions, which we you know, we think of

1948
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 2: it as just like the you know, the brains behind

1949
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 2: what Jake's doing. Well, they're not just signing Serrano. They

1950
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 2: signed a young boxer with potential named Ashton Sylvie who's

1951
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 2: seven and zero was seven KOs. He's going to be

1952
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 2: featured on this pay per view card against a guy

1953
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 2: with twenty five fights experienced, Bralio Rodriguez, who like is

1954
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 2: actually you know, a guy who's been around, who's twenty

1955
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 2: and four with seventeen KOs. So somebody to watch for, Luke,

1956
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 2: as it seems, I don't know, it's like every time

1957
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 2: I feel like Jake might be sometimes I feel like

1958
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,719
Speaker 2: Jake's just gonna decide that's it. Like he hasn't reached

1959
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 2: his jackpot moment yet, both in terms of the most

1960
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 2: money he can make in a single fight, and like, damn,

1961
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 2: that's cool because I do think that's why he's chasing

1962
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 2: on the Mike Tyson fight because to him, like his

1963
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:55,679
Speaker 2: brother boxing Floyd, it's like my book I'm gonna write

1964
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 2: one day is going to be epic about my life.

1965
01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 2: You know, my life's a movie. Luke, do it for

1966
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 2: the gram, right, all those hip lame things that sound

1967
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 2: even lamer coming out of my mouth.

1968
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, that's it for quick hitters BC time.

1969
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 2: But it appears he's lingering and boxing was the point, Luke.

1970
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 2: It appears he's actually trying to stay around a while.

1971
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:15,719
Speaker 2: That was that was the point.

1972
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 1: All right?

1973
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 2: Cool, Yeah, that's I mean, just we should just end

1974
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 2: the show. I mean, this is just what.

1975
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 1: We're done with the top the top five, go ahead.

1976
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 2: All right, we needed to waste time on this Wednesday,

1977
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 2: so nobody does it like your boy BC. Let's bother

1978
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 2: Luke with a category that I like to call fill in.

1979
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 1: The blank, Pill in the blank.

1980
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 2: Phil McCracken. Yeah, there we go. Uh, Luke, I've got

1981
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 2: ten questions for you. It's very simple. You're gonna fill

1982
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 2: in the damn blank. The biggest selling MMA pay per

1983
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 2: view Nate Diaz could make outside of the UFC right now,

1984
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:51,719
Speaker 2: would be against Blank.

1985
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 1: So I have won seventy biggest one he could make,

1986
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: Jake Logan Paul could make. Could he make one seventy?

1987
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 1: He's too big?

1988
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 2: I think, Oh, them in them in an MMA match

1989
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 2: you're talking.

1990
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 1: About, Yeah, in an MMA fight, But that would they

1991
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 1: would They couldn't sanction that because they would be.

1992
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:21,640
Speaker 2: Too much creative of you. Yeah, I mean I'm thinking, like,

1993
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 2: could they do an Anderson Silva MMA fight? Would he

1994
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 2: go up that high and way?

1995
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, well he'd have to go to one eighty

1996
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 1: five something like that. Yeah, something like that.

1997
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 2: You don't like m v P or Mike Perry and

1998
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,719
Speaker 2: a bare knuckle none of those, right, I mean those

1999
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 2: would be more competitive, But I don't know that.

2000
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 1: You're asking about the biggest pay per view. Yeah, all right,

2001
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 1: so probably Anderson Silva is the answer. Probably number two

2002
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: on fill in the blank?

2003
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 2: Is this looke? After aspin Lad missed wait yet again

2004
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 2: and was pulled from last Saturday's Fight Night, about the

2005
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 2: next move for her and the UFC should be.

2006
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 1: Part ways part ways? Yeah, ONEI is not a real

2007
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 1: thing they're doing. There are other division. There are other

2008
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 1: organizations that are more committed to one forty five. She

2009
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 1: clearly cannot make one thirty five reliably she. You know,

2010
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:14,600
Speaker 1: the UFC doesn't look kindly on obviously missing weight this

2011
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 1: many times, nor should they. No promotion should. And I

2012
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:20,879
Speaker 1: do think she's talented, but I really wonder about her development,

2013
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:22,680
Speaker 1: whether it has gone the way it has supposed to.

2014
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of things she needs to

2015
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 1: figure out in her life, and the best place to

2016
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 1: do that is not under the gun of the UFC's auspices.

2017
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 1: It's somewhere else. I think. I want to say this.

2018
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,719
Speaker 1: By the way, it sounds like, oh, let's let's attack

2019
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 1: aspen lad, It's not what it's about. But she's got

2020
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 1: issues to iron out. She should go iron them out.

2021
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 2: That and you know what, cutting her would actually probably

2022
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 2: force her to do that. That might end up being

2023
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 2: the best thing that could happen to her career long term,

2024
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,639
Speaker 2: because you know, they could just say, Okay, we're going

2025
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 2: full time to one forty five nine and we're not

2026
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 2: messing around. But I mean, do they believe that it's

2027
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 2: worth that risk, that there's that much potential payback, that

2028
01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 2: there's a you know, future champion here, there's way, there's more, way,

2029
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 2: more questions and answers at this point. Yeah, you're right,

2030
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 2: you know, look, maybe that's what they do. Okay, okay,

2031
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 2: unless she makes her Kayla's UFC debut in the first

2032
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 2: women's heavyweight fight of all time.

2033
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great.

2034
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 2: The division BC division Luke blank is the amount of

2035
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 2: points you would score against five foot nine and recently

2036
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 2: retired forty one year old w NBA star Sue Byrd

2037
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 2: and a half court pickup game up to eleven.

2038
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 1: So that I mean, each time you score a bucket,

2039
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 1: it's one point.

2040
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 2: Yes, or two points from behind the line. And for

2041
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 2: the sake of this question, it's not make it, take it.

2042
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 2: You would alternate possession. So how many points up to

2043
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 2: eleven could you score?

2044
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 1: Oh? I see? I mean the thing is could I

2045
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:50,560
Speaker 1: guard her? You know, not without being Bill Lambier. Let me,

2046
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 1: let's just be very poor. I would just be elbowing

2047
01:33:52,520 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 1: the fuck out of her. You know what I'm saying? Brother? Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably,

2048
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 1: Like you know, we had a shoot off. I think

2049
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 1: you were a little surprised about how well I did.

2050
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 2: We talked about wrestling. Kane Velesca's here, look at where

2051
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 2: we're going this.

2052
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd be surprised. You'd be surprised, uh, you know,

2053
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: three or four points probably maybe.

2054
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 2: Wow, three or four. It's interesting because like she'd be

2055
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 2: able to drive past you or just pull up jay

2056
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 2: at will right. Yes, and given that she's a pro

2057
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,879
Speaker 2: athlete and still you know, very good although she's retired,

2058
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:28,799
Speaker 2: she'd probably be able to strip you a bunch of times.

2059
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 2: But it's like, what if you just went to straight

2060
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 2: old man back her the heck down style. She's got

2061
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 2: to be way stronger than we realized. So if she

2062
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 2: could somehow deflect you out of that paint, like you'd

2063
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 2: have to back her in to get the drop step

2064
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 2: turn around right, you know.

2065
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 1: I would have to do the magic, you know, like, uh,

2066
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 1: what what was what was Old Irving's like, hoop fucking shot?

2067
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about? Were he post no magic? Johnson?

2068
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 1: Whe he would post up, post up?

2069
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 2: Oh the baby skyhook?

2070
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the skyhook. I can probably get lucky with a

2071
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 1: couple of skyhooks, just kind of keeping her off of me.

2072
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 1: But like you know, once she got the ball, it's

2073
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 1: it's game, you know.

2074
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Geff was saying, if we went to like you know,

2075
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 2: losers or winners, whatever you call it, where you get

2076
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:13,639
Speaker 2: the ball back every time, then.

2077
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be fucked. I'm made.

2078
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 2: That would be yeah, But I wonder, I don't know.

2079
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 2: It's interesting, all right. This is the stuff I lay at,

2080
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 2: you know, in bed, thinking about all night long. Luke,

2081
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 2: the female fighter currently under contract who has yet to

2082
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 2: win a UFC title but appears most likely to do

2083
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 2: so in the next twelve months is blank. I know

2084
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 2: that's a mouthful. Basically, I'm saying, of active UFC female

2085
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 2: fighters who have yet to win a title, who over

2086
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 2: the next year is the best chance to actually do

2087
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:42,559
Speaker 2: so in your eyes.

2088
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 1: Eatn al Donna, eat an aal Donna. Now you know,

2089
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 1: obviously Amanda Nunez proved me quite wrong in how well

2090
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 1: she did against Penya in her second fight, so she

2091
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 1: still is a force to be reckoned with. And I

2092
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 1: would probably still pick Amanda Nunez. But in the next

2093
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 1: twelve months, one never knows. Man, that's a long time

2094
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 1: in MMA, doesn't seem like it. That's a long time.

2095
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 1: Al Donna's got good boxing, She's much improved. She can

2096
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 1: take a punch, She's got plenty of weaknesses. Every fighter does.

2097
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 1: But if I'm just sort of pointing out, like who

2098
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 1: could make a run here, you know, McKenzie lack of wrestling,

2099
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 1: I don't buy is like a thing she could really,

2100
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, get over all Donna is a all. Donna's

2101
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:23,719
Speaker 1: one to watch.

2102
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:26,719
Speaker 2: That is a very good answer there, Luke, for sure.

2103
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 2: And you know you could have said Mackenzie Duran of course,

2104
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 2: but there seems a way more. Oh, the obvious answer

2105
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 2: here is Tyler Santos, Luke, that could be the real one, right,

2106
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 2: or do you think it's.

2107
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 1: Well really even Tatiana Suarez, you know, if she comes.

2108
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Speaker 2: Back well yeah, yeah, I mean remember the name. Sometimes

2109
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 2: we forget. I want to. I don't want to. I

2110
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 2: want to see her back there, Luke. But do you

2111
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 2: think Santos is a threat to beat Valentina second time?

2112
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 2: Or do you think chef Chenko makes one of those

2113
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 2: championship adjustments and just shuts that shit down?

2114
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, I don't think it goes as well the

2115
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 1: second time.

2116
01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, here we go, Luke. The amount of concessive

2117
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:03,759
Speaker 2: defeats you'd be willing to suffer in the Carson Wentz

2118
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 2: Era before petitioning Washington Commander's own your Daniel Snyder to

2119
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:16,559
Speaker 2: sign Deshaun Watson is blank.

2120
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:19,639
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

2121
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 1: I haven't watched a single fucking down, not a play,

2122
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 1: not a pass, not a fucking touchdown, not an I've

2123
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 1: watched nothing from this team. But again, I don't I'm

2124
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 1: not gonna be that guy that goes in roots for

2125
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 1: them and hopes they fucking lose. I'm not doing that.

2126
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't wish poorly on the players,

2127
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 1: but I cannot support anything Daniel Snyder does. I don't

2128
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 1: want to give any attention to him or anything he

2129
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 1: owns other than negative attention. And so uh, I don't

2130
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 1: give a shit what happens to the Commanders as long

2131
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 1: as Daniel Snyder is the owner. I don't give a fuck.

2132
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 1: If they never win a game, count me out.

2133
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 2: Count me out to say that now. But what if

2134
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 2: we get to like seven straight losses right now, they're

2135
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 2: one on one right now, what if we get to

2136
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:04,639
Speaker 2: one in nine?

2137
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 1: You should fucking hear talk radio here in the city.

2138
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 1: People are like, dude, they can beat the Eagles, Hey, Commanders, fans,

2139
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 1: look at me, ready put the camera on me. Gaff

2140
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 1: put the camera on me. I want to explain to

2141
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 1: you how that. Let me tell you how the how

2142
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 1: the Eagles game is gonna go. Ready, the Commanders are

2143
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 1: gonna get fucking boat raced. They're gonna lose badly, real badly.

2144
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 1: It's gonna go very poorly for them. That's just the

2145
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 1: way that it goes. All of you morons calling in

2146
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 1: on talk radio talking about how great the Commanders actually

2147
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 1: are if they could just play like a team, Fuck

2148
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 1: your life. You're an idiot. That team sucks, they cannot win,

2149
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 1: The ownership is absolutely demented, and you're a moron for

2150
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 1: giving your money to them. Fuck all of you. How

2151
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 1: about that? How about that?

2152
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 2: Wow? Suddenly Vox is like, how do we get all

2153
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 2: these old hits on these Luke Thomas's pissed YouTube clips?

2154
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 1: Because I'm just dude, I can't. I can't. I can't

2155
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 1: do it anymore. I can't bring myself to do it anymore.

2156
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 1: Like I'm well, now, here's what I'm gonna say. Once

2157
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder goes whenever the hell that is, I'm all

2158
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm all in again, whether they win or lose. But

2159
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 1: as long as he's a part of it. Count me out.

2160
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 2: You think Robert Craft might go out of his way

2161
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:18,839
Speaker 2: to sign to Shaun Watson given their.

2162
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:22,639
Speaker 1: I mean that's a gross I mean, one guy kind

2163
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 1: of committed crimes, you know.

2164
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,600
Speaker 2: Kay, Sorry, Luke, Yeah, I'm sorry. Look, let's go to

2165
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 2: another blank. Hey, Shakers. Stevenson is back this weekend against

2166
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,560
Speaker 2: Robeson Concesao in Stevenson's home of Newark, isn't it?

2167
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:34,560
Speaker 1: Hobson can say so?

2168
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 2: I think he goes by Robson. Let's go, we'll get

2169
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 2: to the bottom of that this week. I don't want to.

2170
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 2: I don't want it might be, it might very I

2171
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 2: mean we didn't think it could be Honaldo or the

2172
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 2: King of he O Luke and gets you what's surprised?

2173
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:50,599
Speaker 1: Right? Can you get to this motherfucker? Can we get

2174
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 1: through this show? Please?

2175
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 2: Is it take a blank? Because at this point, Luke,

2176
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 2: just live it right, just live it. Blank is the

2177
01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 2: boxer with the best chance between one twenty six and

2178
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 2: one thirty five to currently defeat Shaquer Stevenson.

2179
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 1: Loma ooh, Loma. I don't see who can deal with

2180
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 1: his precision and make him as uncomfortable as you would

2181
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 1: need to make him because dude, if he's in if

2182
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 1: he is in cruise control where he's really able to sharpshoot,

2183
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 1: find the distance, find the timing, and sort of set

2184
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 1: the terms. You can't beat him. He doesn't have big power,

2185
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 1: but he's just you can't do anything to him. Loma,

2186
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 1: it seems to me, would be the guy to be

2187
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 1: able to create angles, hesitation, misses, the kinds of things

2188
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:40,680
Speaker 1: that Shaquar Stephenson's not used to having to deal with.

2189
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 1: Loma is the guy.

2190
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as Loma can return to where he

2191
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 2: was and he still had it in that comeback knockout

2192
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 2: win that he had for sure. But I know a

2193
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 2: lot has changed with the conflict and all that, But

2194
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 2: I would go with Devin Haney as as like the

2195
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 2: next best answer for that, because you wonder if he

2196
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:59,679
Speaker 2: could neutralize with his time, because he has that full

2197
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 2: package of pure boxing mastery, and even though he doesn't

2198
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 2: overly excite you with the footwork and the setup of

2199
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 2: the jab, like if he could time Shakur, you wonder

2200
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:09,680
Speaker 2: if that could be an interesting fight there. Obviously, when

2201
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 2: you got the power of Jervonte, anything can happen. But

2202
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 2: Shaquer's coming on. He's coming the hell on, so get

2203
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 2: ready we'll see him again Saturday. Uh luke if Jermaine

2204
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:21,240
Speaker 2: Durandomy speaking of GDR, who announced Tuesday at age thirty eight,

2205
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 2: that she and her girlfriend are pregnant with a baby

2206
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:26,839
Speaker 2: that Jermaine is carrying if she never fights again. Blank

2207
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 2: Best describes her legacy.

2208
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:36,000
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, man, she had a phenomenal muy Thai career,

2209
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 1: beyond phenomenal muy Thai career, and she had a very

2210
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 1: good MMA career. Everyone goes back to the Holly Holme fight,

2211
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,519
Speaker 1: which was a dud, and then she wins and she's like,

2212
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm not going to fight Cyborg, even though like, why

2213
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 1: the fuck did you take this fight if you knew

2214
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:52,799
Speaker 1: you weren't going to fight Cyborg? And then it ruined everything.

2215
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:55,959
Speaker 1: She gave Amanda a hell of a fight in their rematch,

2216
01:41:56,040 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 1: even though she lost the first time. I would say decoration,

2217
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 1: decorated largely describes her legacy. Not in totality. There are some,

2218
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 1: you know, bad spots, but in general, she had a

2219
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 1: pretty decorated fucking career, man.

2220
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she had the ability to take a lot

2221
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 2: of time off because she was a police officer as

2222
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:15,640
Speaker 2: well full time where she would come back once a

2223
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,840
Speaker 2: year and be at the same exact level. So very

2224
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 2: good fighter. Let's see what her future brings. I have

2225
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 2: felt like we should have gotten her lately, more active

2226
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 2: and a more important one thirty five fights, because she

2227
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 2: seems to be the name that would make the only

2228
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 2: important remaining ones left. But happy for her in her

2229
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 2: growing family. Here, Luke, the best UFC fight you could

2230
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:38,559
Speaker 2: make involving fighters at least two divisions apart in size

2231
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:39,719
Speaker 2: would be blank.

2232
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 1: Hmm.

2233
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 2: I mean this is this is the real stuff right here, Luke.

2234
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:58,120
Speaker 3: Okay, oh okay, So you would say it's not two,

2235
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:00,160
Speaker 3: but you could kind of fudget if you wanted to say.

2236
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 1: So Hudo was a flyweight, Yeah, Suhudo Volkanovski could that.

2237
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:08,599
Speaker 2: Could answer that question. Yeah, that's not that's not bad something,

2238
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 2: Lusiman Prohaska.

2239
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 1: Maybe that's another one. How about Connor versus Jamayah, We're.

2240
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 2: Probably not that far away from that in reality, Luke,

2241
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 2: let's be really fair. Connor might get to a point

2242
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:23,040
Speaker 2: like an aging wrestler does, where they're like, who's left

2243
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 2: out there? That could help me make some real money again,

2244
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 2: you know, like hul Cogan's always like always watching closely, right,

2245
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 2: who may be able to do that? Uh? That guy

2246
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:33,120
Speaker 2: will so? Uh Connor. Look, I don't know, Like, I

2247
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 2: don't know how badly it's gonna go for Connor down

2248
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 2: the stretch. Will he just keep selling his soul until

2249
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 2: UFC stops him. I don't know it's gonna be could

2250
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 2: get weird, could get really weird. Probably yeah.

2251
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 1: Uh.

2252
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 2: Luke Blank is the most famous person whose phone number

2253
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:48,480
Speaker 2: you currently have in your cell contacts.

2254
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 1: Ooh, I got Nate Diaz's phone number.

2255
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 2: Oh shit, I'd love to see two ky like but

2256
01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 2: dill that Luke And suddenly you know.

2257
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:06,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had conversations over text with Tony Kahanu talking wrestling,

2258
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 1: talking a w with no There was a while where

2259
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,879
Speaker 1: he was trying to do something in MMA, not promotions

2260
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:17,680
Speaker 1: or anything else, something behind the scenes. But and I

2261
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 1: don't think it ever got off the ground. But I'm

2262
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 1: trying to think, like, Nate's pretty fucking famous. Probably Nate.

2263
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:29,559
Speaker 1: But I've got like every exception, with the exception of Connor,

2264
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 1: I've got almost every fighter phone number. I mean I

2265
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:32,599
Speaker 1: got a lot of them.

2266
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 2: So you ever send nudes? Just just to see what happens, Luke, Jeremy,

2267
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 2: just to float it out there, right.

2268
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 1: No, I haven't done that. I told the story about

2269
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:42,679
Speaker 1: when I accidentally texted Nada.

2270
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 2: Yes, fantastic on air story. I love that one.

2271
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, that's that's the only like weird interaction I've

2272
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 1: had over text.

2273
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:52,599
Speaker 2: Okay, well, speaking of weird interactions, we've got one more

2274
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:55,919
Speaker 2: hole to fill here, Luke, the best word to describe

2275
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 2: how your a noose feels some twenty four hours after

2276
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:01,799
Speaker 2: your first call and I is blank?

2277
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 1: Well, uh, the answer is basically fine, because I don't

2278
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 1: feel that there was no problem there. The one thing

2279
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 1: that is the problem was.

2280
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 2: The delivery system. How you get there? That's the problem.

2281
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 2: Look right?

2282
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 1: Well no, no, no, like there's no soreness, Like they don't

2283
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 1: they just put a small camera up your rear end.

2284
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 1: I can't, I couldn't. There's no pain or any lingering

2285
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:22,960
Speaker 1: issues with that.

2286
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 2: There's shame, huh, there's shame or no, no, shame a

2287
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:28,760
Speaker 2: little bit probably, you know.

2288
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, of all the people's rear ends

2289
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:33,599
Speaker 1: they have to look at, is mine really the worst

2290
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 1: I got? That? I don't possibility is no, dude, they've got.

2291
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 1: Like I saw some of the people, dude, I saw

2292
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:43,760
Speaker 1: some of the fucking Baltimore Ravens fans sauntering into the

2293
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 1: office to get their butt checked. I am definitely not

2294
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 1: the worst purple camonation probably has a lot worse than

2295
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:52,439
Speaker 1: what I had to offer. What I will say is this,

2296
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 1: when you get a kolonoscopy. I couldn't eat for basically

2297
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:58,200
Speaker 1: like two days because you can't eat at all the

2298
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 1: day before you're kalonoscopy, and myscoby wasn't until like one

2299
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 1: in the afternoon the day of, and I couldn't eat it.

2300
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:07,280
Speaker 1: You can't. I had to stop eating anything, even water,

2301
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 1: drinking water like like five hours before that. So I

2302
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:14,879
Speaker 1: had the last piece of like anything I had nourishment

2303
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 1: was at like six point thirty in the morning yesterday.

2304
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 1: But here's what they do. They give you this giant

2305
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 1: four liter jug of this basically a laxative, and you

2306
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 1: have to drink three lids the day before and then

2307
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:30,640
Speaker 1: one leader the next morning. My friend, my friend, I

2308
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,760
Speaker 1: could not be more than fifteen feet away from the

2309
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 1: commode before. I was worried about whether or not my

2310
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 1: dungarees were gonna have a story to explain because they

2311
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:44,680
Speaker 1: put that thing was like drinking VC's rocket fuel in

2312
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 1: your butt. Yeah, so that part was not so great.

2313
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:50,400
Speaker 1: Got to tell you that part's not so fun. But

2314
01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 1: everything else was no big deal.

2315
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:53,960
Speaker 2: I think I drank that same concoction that night before

2316
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 2: I had a drug test at the nursing home, Luke,

2317
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:56,920
Speaker 2: when I worked in the kitchen.

2318
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:02,680
Speaker 1: Oh dude, your your major in community college was in

2319
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 1: bedpan technology. I mean, really, worst life ever. I will

2320
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 1: say this. Do I'm gonna say it one more time, dude.

2321
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 1: If there's an anesthesiologist that can put me to sleep

2322
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:13,639
Speaker 1: every night, please do that, dude.

2323
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 2: Death is probably a hell of an apple looke boat.

2324
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 2: Not yet, dude, come on, not yet. Do you want

2325
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 2: to close with fan subs or f the fan?

2326
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 1: Yeah we have Yeah, we're good. A Boila is gonna

2327
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 1: pick up twoky, so I'm good to god.

2328
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 2: Yes, that was unbelievable. That is the loyalty, showing the love. Okay, uh,

2329
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 2: we have a love for our fans. So we let

2330
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 2: you send us your artwork and we'll put them on

2331
01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 2: our fridge. It's morning Combat at gmail dot com is

2332
01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 2: the avenue to take. Let's see what you got here

2333
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:41,680
Speaker 2: under the hood. It's called fan submission.

2334
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 1: You've got mail burn so you've got.

2335
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:50,679
Speaker 2: Mail viewers again. Wow, Hey, Saoul, Remember I thought Little

2336
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 2: Anthony was Saoul at our live show. Luke, that's a

2337
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 2: big regret.

2338
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you're just being a little racist.

2339
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 2: In my defense. Yellow, Hey, we're Saul and Anthony like

2340
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 2: waves a hand, So it's really his fault.

2341
01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, you're vaguely Latin.

2342
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 2: Wow, Sowell says. My cousin and the wife. My cousin

2343
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:12,360
Speaker 2: got me and the wife free tickets to Bourbon and beyond,

2344
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 2: Bourbon and beyond. Is that something, Luke from a client?

2345
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:17,080
Speaker 2: These are the Doobie Brothers. I don't know if you

2346
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 2: if you heard of them, but people seem to love

2347
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 2: them mk all day, nearly every day. Yeah, I've heard

2348
01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:27,080
Speaker 2: of the Doobie Brothers before, Thank you, Saoul. But looking

2349
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:29,679
Speaker 2: good in that in that that tied eye, right, Luke.

2350
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:31,679
Speaker 1: First of all, he looks great in the tied eye.

2351
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:33,679
Speaker 1: But I gotta say, could you tie your shoes worse?

2352
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't. I can't vouch sewell that this

2353
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:40,240
Speaker 2: version of the Doobie Brothers that's being rolled out isn't

2354
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 2: a debacle. I mean it could just be a you know,

2355
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 2: a yeah. I mean, you're not getting Michael McDonald, that's

2356
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 2: for sure, Luke. Okay, skunk back stir anybody. But uh, dude,

2357
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 2: is you think Saul's been in the weight room with

2358
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:52,639
Speaker 2: that mullet, Luke?

2359
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit, But he's got the pink fanny pack,

2360
01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:58,559
Speaker 1: which again I'm not team fanny pack, but I am

2361
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 1: team yeah. Do you know mochilla?

2362
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:04,559
Speaker 2: No? Is that some kind of Colombian thing?

2363
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? And so yeah, it's dudes in Columbia ware a

2364
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:09,640
Speaker 1: thing called a mochilla, which looks like a purse, but

2365
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 1: not exactly. It's a little bit different. It's sort of

2366
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 1: like a bag they wear over one shoulder. But that's

2367
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 1: what I call my my my man bag here. Yeah,

2368
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 1: I got one of them here. That's just what I

2369
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 1: got my man bag. Look, I may wear it over

2370
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 1: my shoulder.

2371
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:26,800
Speaker 2: I mean I make some I know, I make some

2372
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:31,520
Speaker 2: reckless and fashion decisions at times, Luke. Sometimes it's choreographed.

2373
01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:34,120
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just the spirit of who I am. But

2374
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,760
Speaker 2: you with that European mother man bag, Luke, that.

2375
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean you're really testing my patient old fabric.

2376
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 2: You're you're really testing my my friendship and patients with you,

2377
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:44,679
Speaker 2: Luke that I'm.

2378
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:46,719
Speaker 1: Not trying to you say it's like a fashion choice.

2379
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm not making a fashion statement. I'm just not carrying

2380
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:51,120
Speaker 1: a big ass fucking wallet and keys and ship in

2381
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:54,639
Speaker 1: my pocket. Dude, phones are the size of library books. Now.

2382
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 1: My wallet is like George Costanza, I need nasal spray

2383
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 1: because my face doesn't work totally. I got to put

2384
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 1: in there.

2385
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when she I know, You're like, it's you're

2386
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 2: making the decision in as stylish a way as you

2387
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:08,559
Speaker 2: can to try to make yourself feel better. But you

2388
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 2: have crossed over, Luke. You have officially crossed the fuck over,

2389
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 2: and we're gonna find your body at the bottom of

2390
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:16,800
Speaker 2: that pool and cocoon with those aliens. You know what

2391
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 2: I mean, Only you'll be dead.

2392
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 1: Luke. I have fully embraced dad life. I don't give

2393
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:23,719
Speaker 1: a shit what people think. That thing's handy.

2394
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 2: Fuck you all right, thank you so well. I don't

2395
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 2: think so was been working on I think he's just

2396
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:31,720
Speaker 2: built that way, Luke. Okay, a diesel man different. Yeah,

2397
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 2: Adams from Toronto is here. He's a p one donk

2398
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:38,360
Speaker 2: and he says uh Hi, BCLT and RJD. He's talking

2399
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:40,880
Speaker 2: about the dunkle Maker. I just wanted to thank everyone

2400
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:43,599
Speaker 2: for the bomber jacket and that, unlike the four of us,

2401
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:46,479
Speaker 2: comes unwashed. Here I am on the set of The

2402
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 2: Boys season four, which I thought Luke would appreciate. If

2403
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:52,639
Speaker 2: I showed anything other than this frame, I'd be fired,

2404
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 2: which I'm which I'm sure is a position that BC

2405
01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:58,479
Speaker 2: has put you all in before. But I'm not ready

2406
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:00,439
Speaker 2: to move to Connecticut and do delta. It's in a

2407
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 2: bomber jacket while recording sound just yet. Either way. Loved

2408
01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 2: the jacket, but not my morning jacket and keep up

2409
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:12,639
Speaker 2: the racket. Wow, he's a poet, Luke, it's Adam from Duke.

2410
01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:14,479
Speaker 2: You've been telling me to watch The Boys, so now

2411
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:16,559
Speaker 2: you're telling me that one of our donks is like

2412
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:19,000
Speaker 2: a key member. I mean, he could just be like

2413
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:22,560
Speaker 2: the the gaff boy or the like the what's the

2414
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 2: what's a what's a term? Production term that that isn't

2415
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:27,320
Speaker 2: looked at favorably.

2416
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 1: Luke Ringo malka cameraman. But look now, like BC, I

2417
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 1: got a question for you.

2418
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:37,920
Speaker 2: I got a gaffer. Thank you Gaff. It's gaffer, I

2419
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:38,800
Speaker 2: got a question for you.

2420
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 1: Hold on, what the fuck did I do with my boy?

2421
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 1: What impression am I doing? Sot? Who am I?

2422
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 2: Uh?

2423
01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:55,559
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know, Luke, I'm showed again, one

2424
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:57,800
Speaker 1: more time, showed again, one more time. Here we go, Ready,

2425
01:51:58,720 --> 01:51:59,879
Speaker 1: I'm a Malca cameraman.

2426
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd like to have a vape stick a

2427
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 2: little bit more prevalent there. But so should I be

2428
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:10,040
Speaker 2: watching the boys? Not to support one of our own?

2429
01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 2: But am I missing out on key entertainment in my life?

2430
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 1: Luke? I think you'd like it. It's you know, everyone's like, oh,

2431
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:18,519
Speaker 1: but this superhero show is different. No, this one is

2432
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:22,559
Speaker 1: actually different. And I'll say this, if you can't get

2433
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 1: through the first season, you'll already know it's not for you.

2434
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 1: I bet if you finish it. By the way, the

2435
01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 1: guy who plays the lead, well it's sort of the

2436
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 1: lead actor. His name is the character's name is Butcher.

2437
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 1: I think you would love him. I really really do

2438
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:36,120
Speaker 1: give it a shot, dude, give it a shot.

2439
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right. Raquel is here. Wow, Raquel from Boise, Idaho. Hello, guys,

2440
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 2: I was very hot, proud to rept my MK gear

2441
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:47,000
Speaker 2: in Salt Lake City for UFC two seventy eight. I

2442
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 2: got into some trouble, but there ain't nothing a dunk

2443
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 2: can't handle much love. It's Raquel Luke. She let Brandon

2444
01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:56,719
Speaker 2: Moreno put her in the old the rear clothed.

2445
01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:00,799
Speaker 1: I gotta say, here's a relatively actually a very normal

2446
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:05,400
Speaker 1: looking woman who is repping our gear. I am I'm

2447
01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 1: kind of surprised. Yeah, I'm I am surprised.

2448
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:15,960
Speaker 2: We've got female class action suits against the viewers. Yes, yes, yes,

2449
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 2: it is all right, let it out there. It is yep.

2450
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was okay. That one got me. You see me.

2451
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:28,040
Speaker 1: See you want me to like your bad jokes. I'm

2452
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:31,200
Speaker 1: just waiting for the good ones that.

2453
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:33,759
Speaker 2: Raquel, thank you for wrapping us in public and pulling

2454
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:35,880
Speaker 2: it off. Well, let's go to ja. Hey, we know

2455
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 2: a lot about this guy JP right mount you Nike

2456
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 2: in the house Uniac Nova Scotia. He says, this is

2457
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 2: a super spicy special for San Haagen versus you Dong. Yep. Wow.

2458
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:50,880
Speaker 2: They put me in the middle with the Joe Rogan hat.

2459
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 2: You see that looke?

2460
01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:54,240
Speaker 1: Look at that yeah, mouth breathing like a face.

2461
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 2: Luke, I like Sanagan here by finish. I'm feeling extra spicy.

2462
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 2: There's a clear spicy feeling here, very ghost pepperish. Apparently

2463
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:05,280
Speaker 2: I said that on the show How do you Like You?

2464
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:05,599
Speaker 1: Dong?

2465
01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:08,640
Speaker 2: Luke, super spicy, keep up the award winning show. But

2466
01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:10,920
Speaker 2: he's got another one for us. This is called quadruple

2467
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 2: cross promotion. Luke suggested that the PFL smart caage should

2468
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 2: appear on Jeopardy versus Dana White in a Q and

2469
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:20,799
Speaker 2: A format. Let's take this to the next level. Imagine

2470
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:27,640
Speaker 2: the first ever quadruple cross promotion on pay per view. Contestants, Luke,

2471
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:28,679
Speaker 2: this is excellent.

2472
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 1: Blow this up again. I look at Dana being like,

2473
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 1: how did I get stuck with these morons? Fair question?

2474
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 1: Then there's me, I mean, could I be more fucking washed?

2475
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 1: In that picture? Just looking like an asshole?

2476
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:41,280
Speaker 2: You look so high in that picture?

2477
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:44,440
Speaker 1: Why just look like an absolute asshole? Zero points? That's

2478
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 1: also fair BC looking like an absolute fucking asshole as

2479
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 1: well with a tie on negative sixty nine hundred that

2480
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:55,840
Speaker 1: checks out. And then that fucking smart cage bro kicking

2481
01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:56,560
Speaker 1: our ass.

2482
01:54:57,040 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 2: Yo Yo J. Pokett is on fire right now, dude.

2483
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's a yo gaff team. Send

2484
01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:04,720
Speaker 1: me that one. That one's really good. I want to

2485
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 1: share that one.

2486
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow, all right, let's go over to Jordan.

2487
01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 2: He says, I simply must hear Luke comment on this. Oh,

2488
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:13,960
Speaker 2: this is the other part from JP. Sorry. Look, here

2489
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:14,440
Speaker 2: are a.

2490
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:19,080
Speaker 1: Lot of times Jay Aaron Liver blood test results, c

2491
01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 1: KB phoner one time for pre show meeting. Excuse me

2492
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:25,240
Speaker 1: on time for pre show meetings. Vape and bbl's. Yeah,

2493
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:27,840
Speaker 1: give me vape and bbls for one thousand, Alex.

2494
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is all right, let's go over to Jordan.

2495
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 2: Thank you, JP. He says, I simply must hear Luke

2496
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:36,280
Speaker 2: comment on this, and he put it an exclamation point.

2497
01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover

2498
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 1: event in history. Oh yeah, dude, that one is uh

2499
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 1: And if you watch the show, if you watch the movie,

2500
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 1: the song they're playing is like it's like their epic

2501
01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:53,160
Speaker 1: kind of song. That is the one that closed the

2502
01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:57,080
Speaker 1: show with. It's called hammer Smashed Face right Ace Ventura

2503
01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey. And then the Cannibal Corpse was the I

2504
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:01,760
Speaker 1: was about the way Cannibal Corpse with Chris Barnes their

2505
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 1: lead singer. Now the guy with a thick neck, his

2506
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:08,000
Speaker 1: corpse grinder he took over after that. That's a fair point.

2507
01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:09,840
Speaker 1: I love this. I love this meme. That's a great one.

2508
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 2: All right, Well done there, Jordan. Let's go to Adam C.

2509
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:14,920
Speaker 2: He's got a couple of memes for our fan subs

2510
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 2: after the Paul Silva pressure presser from two mondays ago.

2511
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:19,680
Speaker 2: Let's check it out.

2512
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 1: Luke trying to decipher why the crew is laughing at

2513
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 1: BC when he claims he's not as funny as he thinks. Okay, well,

2514
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:29,880
Speaker 1: this meme is stupid.

2515
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:32,560
Speaker 2: I think he nailed it. He's got one more for.

2516
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 1: Us, all right, Luke, when it's time to pronounce a

2517
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 1: Latin American fighter's name, all right, lub time.

2518
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 2: Oh god, that's so true. That's funny because it's true.

2519
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:47,600
Speaker 1: That is okay, that's a good one. That's AT's a very.

2520
01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 2: Good milgo here or al jaio or who.

2521
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 1: Gets a fuck? That's a very that's a very very

2522
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:55,480
Speaker 1: good one. That that one is fair. People have been

2523
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:57,480
Speaker 1: on me about that. They're one hundred right.

2524
01:56:57,800 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but memes like that get you saying and out

2525
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 2: of Sonia like a weirdo. Though, So I don't know

2526
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 2: if I support this, Luke.

2527
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 1: Okay, listen, man, listen. There are fucking names from every

2528
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:11,480
Speaker 1: culture in every language. I don't fucking speak the only ones.

2529
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:13,440
Speaker 1: The reason why the Latin ones I'm doing a little

2530
01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 1: bit better at is because I'm actually trying there. The

2531
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 1: other ones I just punt. I just punt on anyone

2532
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 1: else's name. But you know that's a very funny one.

2533
01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:26,680
Speaker 2: Owen says, Hey, guys, I just finished watching your silva

2534
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 2: Paul Presser. I have to give you, guys credit for

2535
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 2: how you handle these events with such pace and enthusiasm,

2536
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:34,440
Speaker 2: even though you've told us upfront that this is a

2537
01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:37,760
Speaker 2: ridiculous carnival show. Did we really well? Maybe a beast

2538
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 2: of a work ethic ethnic.

2539
01:57:39,360 --> 01:57:41,520
Speaker 1: B C only lost right, I mean, what are we

2540
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 1: doing one now?

2541
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 2: BC only lost his composure for a bit when out

2542
01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 2: of the blue, Jake Paul's lady friend joined the broadcast.

2543
01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 2: He tried to keep a straight face, but we all

2544
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:51,879
Speaker 2: know what he was thinking.

2545
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:57,000
Speaker 1: Damn, she makes straw. Ways, this is a true story.

2546
01:57:57,000 --> 01:57:58,760
Speaker 1: Can I blow your spot up on the air here

2547
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 1: real quick? Matter this? It doesn't matter this point. After

2548
01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:04,440
Speaker 1: this was over, I asked, we were talking to im

2549
01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:06,440
Speaker 1: talking because dude, like, let me be clear about this, Like,

2550
01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:09,320
Speaker 1: we knew Jake was gonna come. We knew that Silva

2551
01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:11,160
Speaker 1: was gonna sit next to us, like that was planned,

2552
01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:13,320
Speaker 1: so we were expecting that. And then, by the way,

2553
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:15,680
Speaker 1: the problem bot tried to tea bag me. I'm like,

2554
01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 1: you get the fuck on me, number one, Like, get

2555
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:21,360
Speaker 1: the fuck away from me. Just just first of all,

2556
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 1: that's the first thing I want to say. The second

2557
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:27,560
Speaker 1: thing though, was like, she just she just sat down,

2558
01:58:27,680 --> 01:58:30,280
Speaker 1: Like we didn't. We didn't know she was gonna sit down.

2559
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:32,920
Speaker 1: She just of her own volition sat down. Ba see.

2560
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 1: After it was over, was like, dude, I was just

2561
01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:36,880
Speaker 1: going to ignore. I'm like, wait, wait, you were just

2562
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 1: gonna pretend she wasn't even sitting there. I know I

2563
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 1: was in trouble because I didn't know her name, so

2564
01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:45,240
Speaker 1: I just had to fucking own it and be like, hey,

2565
01:58:45,480 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 1: I know who you are, but I know your name,

2566
01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 1: and just you tried to be like, I'm just gonna

2567
01:58:49,600 --> 01:58:51,760
Speaker 1: pretend she's not there, imaginary friend.

2568
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 2: While you're trying to villainize me. Where was gaff during

2569
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:55,960
Speaker 2: all this? He wasn't like, hey, guys, we got Julia

2570
01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:57,800
Speaker 2: row sitting down. I don't think he knew to be

2571
01:58:57,840 --> 01:58:58,520
Speaker 2: fair know what he was.

2572
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 1: I guarantee you I know what he was not whispering.

2573
01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:03,160
Speaker 1: That's what I know he was not doing. All right,

2574
01:59:03,200 --> 01:59:06,400
Speaker 1: Hey whisper? Yes, I kind of whisper? No, no, no, can

2575
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:10,000
Speaker 1: you whisper a little bit lower? Yes? Hot kind westber lower? Yeah?

2576
01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:12,240
Speaker 1: Can you whisper? That's a question I.

2577
01:59:12,160 --> 01:59:16,720
Speaker 2: Have, Uh, Luke, she only follows two hundred and seventy

2578
01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:18,920
Speaker 2: two people on Twitter. I just want to you know.

2579
01:59:21,120 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 1: Hey, man, that makes you happy. Can't be that bad, right,

2580
01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:24,200
Speaker 1: Cheryl crow.

2581
01:59:24,280 --> 01:59:27,640
Speaker 2: Owen would say, joking aside, BC, thanks for the bottomless

2582
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 2: well of knowledge and joy you bring to covering even

2583
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 2: ridiculous boxing. You've made me fall in love with that

2584
01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:36,400
Speaker 2: sport again. She's a slippery fish that'll break your heart

2585
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:38,920
Speaker 2: and take your house, but you continually show me how

2586
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:42,160
Speaker 2: beautiful she can be. Yeah, Luke, boxing is a Jesus.

2587
01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:43,720
Speaker 2: She's an interesting woman.

2588
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:48,320
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, you know that's a that's a delicate way

2589
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:48,840
Speaker 1: of putting it.

2590
01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Owen, Thank you. How about Mark sliding

2591
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:56,480
Speaker 2: in here? Shot the guys since shot the Guys since

2592
01:59:56,560 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 2: day one? In studio? Wanted to share in the middle.

2593
01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:03,000
Speaker 2: That's oh oh dude, that's the guy with the cauliflower

2594
02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:03,400
Speaker 2: are yeah.

2595
02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:05,760
Speaker 1: Love. So this is one of the Malka guys who

2596
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:07,680
Speaker 1: was also on his phone when they shoot us. But

2597
02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:12,600
Speaker 1: he's one of the best. David Branch his longtime instructor.

2598
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:15,000
Speaker 1: I don't know who the gentleman on the right there is, but.

2599
02:00:15,160 --> 02:00:17,920
Speaker 2: So Mark says he became a brown belt under sense

2600
02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:21,160
Speaker 2: David Branch and he still watches all the episodes. Just

2601
02:00:21,200 --> 02:00:23,280
Speaker 2: wanted to shout us out MK all day every day.

2602
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:26,080
Speaker 2: I think Mark meant he watches, not David Branch Luke.

2603
02:00:26,760 --> 02:00:29,240
Speaker 1: Also, the thing about Mark is he just brings dogs

2604
02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:32,760
Speaker 1: to the office, remember that. Yeah, yeah, just just letting

2605
02:00:32,800 --> 02:00:37,200
Speaker 1: dogs roam like streets of Latin America.

2606
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:40,480
Speaker 2: Why don't we Yeah, I'm with you. It was wild.

2607
02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:43,120
Speaker 2: Let's go over to Alan. The congratulations though, Mark on

2608
02:00:43,160 --> 02:00:46,040
Speaker 2: your on your victory, on your you know whatever, the

2609
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:49,000
Speaker 2: promotion on your kicking ship. Yeah all right, let's go

2610
02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:52,360
Speaker 2: to Alan. W two photos here, some some BC memes

2611
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:52,960
Speaker 2: we got all.

2612
02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:59,880
Speaker 1: Right, straight off the street streets of motherfucking easy be

2613
02:01:00,600 --> 02:01:03,879
Speaker 1: no one like knowing nothing in life but to be unfit.

2614
02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:05,000
Speaker 1: Don't quote me.

2615
02:01:08,280 --> 02:01:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's emailed. That that is a bull's eye

2616
02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:11,520
Speaker 2: from Alan.

2617
02:01:12,040 --> 02:01:13,880
Speaker 1: Dude. That is fucking good.

2618
02:01:14,160 --> 02:01:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that is Yeah, he hit it, he

2619
02:01:16,920 --> 02:01:19,520
Speaker 2: hit it hard. That is true. That hat looks amazing

2620
02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:21,560
Speaker 2: on me. Let's go to Allen's second.

2621
02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how to tell you this, but I'm

2622
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:26,880
Speaker 1: kind of a big deal one.

2623
02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:31,840
Speaker 2: Of those Poosk's Dude, those are that's an Anchorman meme, right, Yeah,

2624
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:32,800
Speaker 2: that's fantastic.

2625
02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:36,280
Speaker 1: By the way, Anchorman, very unfunny, stupid movie. I can't

2626
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:37,080
Speaker 1: believe people like that.

2627
02:01:37,240 --> 02:01:40,040
Speaker 2: Well, come on, dude, for its time, it was something officially,

2628
02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:43,040
Speaker 2: so you see that plaqu Luke officially followed by Julia

2629
02:01:43,120 --> 02:01:44,000
Speaker 2: Rose right.

2630
02:01:44,280 --> 02:01:46,600
Speaker 1: One of those things called the Polish Delights.

2631
02:01:47,040 --> 02:01:53,800
Speaker 2: Poosk's poons keys, They're incredible, amazing, Seriously, Pooski season is

2632
02:01:53,800 --> 02:01:55,160
Speaker 2: a is a delight, Dude.

2633
02:01:55,240 --> 02:01:58,280
Speaker 1: That is a fucking this guy, Dude, there's a good

2634
02:01:58,600 --> 02:01:59,920
Speaker 1: fan subs this week. Holy ship.

2635
02:02:00,360 --> 02:02:03,000
Speaker 2: This is from an MK couple here, Luke, Courtney and Daniel.

2636
02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:07,000
Speaker 2: Last summer, my boyfriend Dan took me to Luddington, Michigan

2637
02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:09,400
Speaker 2: back when we first got our MK merch. This year,

2638
02:02:09,440 --> 02:02:12,240
Speaker 2: he really spoiled me, taking me even further north to

2639
02:02:12,360 --> 02:02:15,320
Speaker 2: Mackinac Island. It's a good thing we had our favorite

2640
02:02:15,320 --> 02:02:17,560
Speaker 2: hoodies with us because, as you can see, the ferry

2641
02:02:17,600 --> 02:02:21,280
Speaker 2: ride to the island wasn't exactly smooth sailing, and they

2642
02:02:21,320 --> 02:02:25,200
Speaker 2: were surprisingly few quality restaurants available in Mackinawe. But we

2643
02:02:25,280 --> 02:02:28,560
Speaker 2: happened to come by BC Pizza. We were hoping to

2644
02:02:28,640 --> 02:02:32,800
Speaker 2: indulge in some gas station quality pizza. Unfortunately they were closed.

2645
02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:35,040
Speaker 1: And they were shut down due to health violations.

2646
02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:39,440
Speaker 2: That's fair. Everyone worked a barefoot. It was gross. Dan

2647
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:42,080
Speaker 2: is a big soccer fan and is excited for the

2648
02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:44,840
Speaker 2: World Cup. Luke, this is more of a question for you,

2649
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:46,720
Speaker 2: But do you think the US will make it out

2650
02:02:46,760 --> 02:02:49,480
Speaker 2: of the group stage? If so, what is the upper

2651
02:02:49,560 --> 02:02:52,640
Speaker 2: bound limit for the United States men's national team? Wow?

2652
02:02:53,120 --> 02:02:56,040
Speaker 2: Courtney shooting or shot? Here ho us golf for.

2653
02:02:56,240 --> 02:02:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm not watching the World Cup this go round because

2654
02:02:58,440 --> 02:03:03,560
Speaker 1: I just can't get over high. They thousands of migrant

2655
02:03:03,560 --> 02:03:05,520
Speaker 1: workers die trying to make those stadiums and everyone just

2656
02:03:05,560 --> 02:03:09,760
Speaker 1: pretends it didn't happen. So don't know, don't know, I mean,

2657
02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:11,880
Speaker 1: but you know, here's an easy bet, like can the

2658
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:15,880
Speaker 1: US team beat good European teams probably not. So there

2659
02:03:15,960 --> 02:03:16,240
Speaker 1: you go.

2660
02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:19,680
Speaker 2: If we find out that you watched even a second

2661
02:03:19,720 --> 02:03:22,960
Speaker 2: of either the Washington Commanders or the World Cup this year, Luke.

2662
02:03:23,200 --> 02:03:26,480
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing, it's can we see you? I'll

2663
02:03:26,520 --> 02:03:28,720
Speaker 1: make a confession. It is easy for me to not

2664
02:03:28,760 --> 02:03:31,560
Speaker 1: watch the Commanders, Like my disdain is so strong that

2665
02:03:31,600 --> 02:03:34,360
Speaker 1: I don't. It's not a challenge for me to skip it.

2666
02:03:35,120 --> 02:03:36,920
Speaker 1: The World Cup is gonna be hard for me to skip.

2667
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try. I'm gonna you.

2668
02:03:38,440 --> 02:03:39,800
Speaker 2: Know, I'm sure.

2669
02:03:39,880 --> 02:03:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure highlights will come across my Twitter feed because

2670
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:44,120
Speaker 1: I follow so many soccer people, but like, yeah, I'm

2671
02:03:44,160 --> 02:03:46,160
Speaker 1: not gonna sit down and watch a fucking game. Also,

2672
02:03:46,240 --> 02:03:47,920
Speaker 1: Colombia is not in it, so my wife's not going

2673
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:48,760
Speaker 1: to pressure me either.

2674
02:03:48,880 --> 02:03:52,520
Speaker 2: So I used to go to the same barbershop as

2675
02:03:52,600 --> 02:03:54,960
Speaker 2: Craig Burley. You know him from soccer coverage.

2676
02:03:54,640 --> 02:03:57,240
Speaker 1: Luke, Yes, isn't he on ESPNFC?

2677
02:03:57,760 --> 02:04:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah he's really good. I like that guy, really awesome dutt.

2678
02:04:01,320 --> 02:04:02,320
Speaker 1: Is that the Scottish guy?

2679
02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, he lives in my town. Yeah, he's really

2680
02:04:04,640 --> 02:04:07,920
Speaker 2: nice dude. Finally, Luke, danger Mouse is always uh is

2681
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:11,720
Speaker 2: always here for us to close. He's like, uh, the Sandman,

2682
02:04:11,800 --> 02:04:14,560
Speaker 2: not san Haagan. Look, I'm talking about Trevor uh Hoffmann, Right,

2683
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:15,520
Speaker 2: I make that up.

2684
02:04:16,120 --> 02:04:18,800
Speaker 1: H B. You know that they're so mad about this,

2685
02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:20,240
Speaker 1: They're so fucking mad.

2686
02:04:21,160 --> 02:04:23,400
Speaker 2: You know that thing you do with Luke where you

2687
02:04:23,440 --> 02:04:25,720
Speaker 2: find something that annoys him and then you pick at it. Yeah,

2688
02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:26,600
Speaker 2: that's what this is.

2689
02:04:28,160 --> 02:04:31,240
Speaker 1: Listen, you dumb dumbs can call it. It's here here

2690
02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:33,920
Speaker 1: if it makes the Brits feel better. Here's another thing

2691
02:04:33,920 --> 02:04:37,880
Speaker 1: that I also ignore. Uh. In Virginia, there's a town

2692
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:44,360
Speaker 1: called Norfolk. Okay, those dumbasses in Norfolk, Norfolk, Virginia. I

2693
02:04:44,440 --> 02:04:47,280
Speaker 1: swear to god they pronounce if you watch the local

2694
02:04:47,320 --> 02:04:50,240
Speaker 1: news and then they'll correct you, it's log it's Gnawfolk.

2695
02:04:50,640 --> 02:04:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, so it's not. Actually, it's Norfolk. And that's

2696
02:04:53,920 --> 02:04:57,600
Speaker 1: what I'm going to say. And you fuck boys and

2697
02:04:57,680 --> 02:05:01,120
Speaker 1: fuck girls. Can you can go uh, you know, pounds

2698
02:05:01,160 --> 02:05:02,840
Speaker 1: and eat it back a dits whatever makes your day.

2699
02:05:03,520 --> 02:05:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm not calling it Norfolk. It's Norfolk. And in the

2700
02:05:08,040 --> 02:05:10,960
Speaker 1: words of Gorilla and M's fuck your life. Wow.

2701
02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:14,040
Speaker 2: Wow, there's a Norfolk, Connecticut, a couple of times over

2702
02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:16,920
Speaker 2: from me, Luke, real small town. They pronounce it Norfolk,

2703
02:05:17,240 --> 02:05:21,160
Speaker 2: but I tend to not. You know, that's that's abrasive, Luke.

2704
02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying I'm not I'm not calling

2705
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:27,360
Speaker 1: it Norfolk. I don't know if you're from the water.

2706
02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:30,600
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, then that can I call it baron

2707
02:05:30,640 --> 02:05:31,480
Speaker 2: Quilla if I want?

2708
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:31,760
Speaker 1: Luke?

2709
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:33,280
Speaker 2: I mean can I? All right?

2710
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean you could?

2711
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:41,960
Speaker 2: You could uh Barrakuda, Danger Mouse says. And just because

2712
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:44,880
Speaker 2: I haven't yet forgiven him for his comments about our queen,

2713
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:50,280
Speaker 2: here's another Luke meme. Wow, Luke, that's a that's a

2714
02:05:50,280 --> 02:05:51,360
Speaker 2: body shot right there.

2715
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:55,440
Speaker 1: Wow, that's funny. That's funny. Actually with six years of service.

2716
02:05:55,560 --> 02:05:56,920
Speaker 1: Fuck ahead, get it right? Yeah?

2717
02:05:57,000 --> 02:06:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and finally a true story, Danger Mouse says.

2718
02:06:00,120 --> 02:06:04,400
Speaker 1: From Monday Show, listen to Canelo Triple versus Triple G

2719
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:06,080
Speaker 1: chat watch the queen's funeral.

2720
02:06:09,560 --> 02:06:12,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there you go, right there, Luke. Canelo, by

2721
02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:15,760
Speaker 2: the way, I forgot to mention out until at least

2722
02:06:16,160 --> 02:06:19,720
Speaker 2: May of next year with left wrist surgery, and he

2723
02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:22,000
Speaker 2: told Dan Rayfield that it could be as late as

2724
02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:24,800
Speaker 2: September of next year that he could be back. So

2725
02:06:25,480 --> 02:06:26,920
Speaker 2: that changes things a lot.

2726
02:06:26,920 --> 02:06:29,480
Speaker 1: You know, that does Yeah, that's interesting because remember he

2727
02:06:29,560 --> 02:06:32,400
Speaker 1: usually fights on Mexican Independence Day and then Cinco de Mayo.

2728
02:06:34,600 --> 02:06:36,120
Speaker 1: Not really a whole lot in between.

2729
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, does he keep those titles? Do they

2730
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:40,840
Speaker 2: strip him out? It's going to be interesting because if

2731
02:06:40,880 --> 02:06:42,680
Speaker 2: he wants to come back and not defend those and

2732
02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:45,560
Speaker 2: fight beav All or better Beaver or whoever and not

2733
02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:49,440
Speaker 2: fight you know, Benevite is then cold Get Dicey.

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Speaker 1: great job today, roundup, applause. Yeah, I was fana, very

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Speaker 1: very good, very good. Good job. Also, of course, Showtime

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Speaker 1: b see in the final thoughts because we have another

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Speaker 1: call we have to do.

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Speaker 2: No. Just thank you, our listeners, whether you love us,

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Speaker 2: hate us, only love one of us. Thanks for being here,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for liking, subscribing, Thanks for voting on all those awards.

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Speaker 2: Oh and final shout out Courtney. Yes, our Courtney. I

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Speaker 2: think she's about nine eight days away from the from

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Speaker 2: her fight, a what three round exhibition that she's got planned.

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Speaker 2: But the bigger story is the is the the purpose,

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Speaker 2: the raising money for cancer victims. And if you feel

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Speaker 2: so inclined, you can read Courtney's story below. But uh,

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Speaker 2: we're getting closer, Luke. I mean, should we do a

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Speaker 2: like Dissected or or like a MK breakdown, a preview,

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Speaker 2: maybe interview, bod, you're.

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Speaker 1: Betting on her to win, right, I'm betting on her

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Speaker 1: to win.

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Speaker 2: Oh, come I win? Yeah you're not going yeah, because

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Speaker 2: I'm saying we could interview the trainers, you know, the fighters.

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Speaker 2: I mean this, we could we could build this up, Luke, Uh,

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Speaker 2: all access behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: No, probably, I kind of want to tell him about

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Speaker 1: the next doc. But I'll keep that. I'll keep that

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Speaker 1: for another day.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, thank you, thank you, thank you, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, we're done, all right. For Brian Campbell for CBS Sports,

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Speaker 1: for Malka for Showtime, I'm Luke Thomas. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for watching. Talk to you on Friday, and until

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Speaker 1: next time, May all of your gains be loyal