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Speaker 2: We are underway. Hello everyone, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 2: of the Action Network NFL podcast. I am Matthew Friedman,

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Speaker 2: the editor in chief of Fantasy Labs, and joining me

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Speaker 2: for a special two part episode to break down the

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Speaker 2: four person draft that we've just done, in which you

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Speaker 2: can find published on the Action Network. Is a marvelous

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Speaker 2: triumvirate of fantasy goodness. Shawn Corner, Chris Raymond, and Peter Jennings.

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Speaker 2: Shawn is the Action Network Director of Predictive Analytics and

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Speaker 2: one of the top end season Fantasy Pros rankers for

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Speaker 2: a Fantasy Labs co founder and two time DFS World Champion.

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Speaker 2: your bets. Sean Chris, I know how you two guys

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Speaker 2: are doing. I talk to you all the time, So

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to ignore you right now and I'm

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Speaker 2: going to get to Pete. Peter, how's it going.

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Speaker 1: Doing, all Man in the midst of quite a few drafts,

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Speaker 1: up to three hundred already, So it's fun to draft

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Speaker 1: with you boys, and excited for this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Man that you are just grinding those streets. It is

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Speaker 2: great to have you back on the show. This is

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Speaker 2: a special episode, as I mentioned, a two part episode.

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Speaker 2: We get a lot of questions about Best Ball strategy,

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Speaker 2: about roster construction and balancing positional demands about this player

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Speaker 2: versus that player. So we figured that we could do

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Speaker 2: a four person draft and use that as the vehicle

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Speaker 2: to touch on a lot of these topics. So in

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Speaker 2: this episode, part one, we're going to get some general

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Speaker 2: insight from Pete on his approach to Best Ball. He's playing,

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Speaker 2: as he mentioned, in a lot of leagues at draft,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to talk our pre draft plans for

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Speaker 2: the league, and then we will get through rounds one

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Speaker 2: through six, and then in part two, which will come

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Speaker 2: out next week, we will go through rounds seven through eighteen.

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Speaker 2: So let's jump into it, Pete, I would like to

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Speaker 2: get your general sense of the leagues that you are in.

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Speaker 2: Which league size do you think provides the biggest edge

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Speaker 2: and why I.

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Speaker 1: Think the biggest edges is probably still in a twelve

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Speaker 1: man considering the mistakes that people will make in general,

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Speaker 1: drafts where people will auto draft and time out, and

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Speaker 1: the fore man slow drafts as well. The format slow drafts.

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Speaker 1: I think people aren't paying enough attention to the tiers

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Speaker 1: and there's some positional scarcity stuff that's really important. So

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Speaker 1: the twelve man's have the most edge. The buy ins

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Speaker 1: are lower, So from a volume ROI perspective, I think

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Speaker 1: the smaller drafts are really enticing, which is why I've

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Speaker 1: done more of those. But that championship looks pretty sweet,

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Speaker 1: million dollars to first, so that's that's probably where the

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Speaker 2: You mentioned that you think there are some inefficiencies, especially

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Speaker 2: you touch on that a little bit more. What are

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Speaker 2: the things that you're seeing that you think you can exploit.

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Speaker 1: People are just drafting guys that are really low in

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Speaker 1: depth charts that have a chance not to play that

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Speaker 1: you're doing your research and you understand where, you know

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Speaker 1: and other players are drafting guys who might not even

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Speaker 1: see the field make a team. You know, for a

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Speaker 2: Do you have some big picture thoughts on how you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I mean, you know, in the foreman's you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we just got some of Pete's insight into

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Speaker 2: how he approaches the four man's. Raymond, I would like

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think with every draft you want

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Speaker 3: did think about taking Travis Kelsey number one, to be

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Speaker 3: Pete had taken Kittle and Zach Hurtz, and so I

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Speaker 4: I had three guys that I thought potentially could give me.

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Speaker 3: You know, most weeks are probably going to end up

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Speaker 3: And I hit wide receiver for five straight picks. I

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Speaker 3: And then I ran it back with Stefan Diggs and

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Speaker 3: I know the likes are gonna run a little bit more,

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Speaker 3: So I just kind of went hard after the winning

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Speaker 4: In reaction to Pete's kind of just running away with

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Speaker 2: All right, So Raymond just basically broke down the entire

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Speaker 5: I had similar strategy going in, I think with a

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Speaker 5: four man key to have tiers and anticipate these huge

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Speaker 5: You know, when you when you factor out the drop off,

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Speaker 5: it pretty much evens out. But this draft, you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if that was whise in such a

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Speaker 5: whoever's going to win this will be, you know, someone

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Speaker 5: So I thought, you know, taking elite wide receivers and

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Speaker 2: I should say this was the first fore man I

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Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's get into round one. Raymond, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 4: So that's why I went there.

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Speaker 5: and I was sadly mistaken, but yeah, Kelsey would higher

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Speaker 2: You mentioned that you have in half point ppr Zeke

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Speaker 2: I went with McCaffrey number three. Pete took Kamarat number four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the draft fell perfectly for me. I've been

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Speaker 1: taking Kelsey. He's I hav ingim about sixty percent of

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Speaker 1: in these four mans by pros, which I think is correct.

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Speaker 1: The drop off between Kelsey and everyone else is so massive,

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Speaker 1: on tight ends. I actually have the running back tiers

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Speaker 1: far this year. And if it comes out that he's fine,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna play all sixteen games, I think that's great. Also,

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Speaker 1: for me, it's basically perfect. I go McCaffrey ahead of Kamara.

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Speaker 1: But I think Kamara is an incredible play this year,

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Speaker 1: Kamara specifically, they're essentially receivers out there, so I really

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Speaker 1: would take Kelsey and Ertz and just be done with

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Speaker 1: tight end. That's what I like to do. I think

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Speaker 1: it plays out. I'd really need those three guys to

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Speaker 2: So, guys, we basically got not just killed, we got

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Speaker 2: Melvin Gordon at two point oh two, again just wanted

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it wasn't much of a conversation of

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Speaker 2: There's just a lot of uncertainty, I think with David Johnson,

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Speaker 2: with Melvin Gordon, especially with his versatility as a receiver

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So at that point I decided, you know, I

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Speaker 2: You know what, Pete, Actually I want to kick get

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Speaker 2: Are you still as high on Kelsey? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna get some percentage of the season

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Speaker 2: All right, Ray, but I want to kick it to

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Speaker 3: So again I think my strategy, you know, at the top,

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Speaker 4: And I actually have David Johnson rent quite highly.

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Speaker 3: There's really there's really no hesitation after you know, those

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Speaker 3: But he has played three sixteen game seasons and then

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Speaker 3: Murray himself and him running the ball and taking that

436
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Speaker 3: to the edge.

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Speaker 4: So I think that will open a lot more space

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Speaker 4: up for Johnson.

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Speaker 3: And I remember, this is a guy who has the talent,

440
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Speaker 3: you know, to do what he has repeatedly stated as

441
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Speaker 3: a goal of his, which is a thousand rushing and

442
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Speaker 3: a thousand receiving yards in a season. And when I

443
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Speaker 3: look at you know, the players rest on the board,

444
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Speaker 3: whoever legitimate shot of putting up a.

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Speaker 4: Saquon type season.

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Speaker 3: You know, David Johnson's right there at the top of

447
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Speaker 3: that list, and Arian bellis too, you know. I know

448
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Speaker 3: there's all the talk about, you know, Adam Gates and

449
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Speaker 3: he didn't want to spend the money on Ladan, But

450
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Speaker 3: we know that sharp, we know you're not supposed to

451
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Speaker 3: spend a lot of money on running back. But if

452
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Speaker 3: you are, now fire GM goes down against he lived

453
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Speaker 3: me on Bell and you didn't want to spend the

454
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Speaker 3: money on him. I think that might even make you

455
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Speaker 3: more likely to use him.

456
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Speaker 4: He has fresh.

457
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Speaker 3: You know, he's fresh after sitting out a year. We

458
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Speaker 3: saw kind of Marshawn Lynchby, you know, be kind of

459
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Speaker 3: benefit from that a little bit. So I don't think

460
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Speaker 3: I have no worry about him, and I think Stam

461
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Speaker 3: Darnold will actually take a step forward as well. So

462
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Speaker 3: both of those guys are guys who we've seen them

463
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Speaker 3: do this in the past, be the top overall player

464
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Speaker 3: in fantasy. And to get to have map three of

465
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Speaker 3: those guys with Barkley on, waiving On and uh in DJ,

466
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Speaker 3: I think that, you know, if I couldn't get a

467
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Speaker 3: top tight end, if I could get Kelsey, because I

468
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Speaker 3: agree there's a big drop off, but not a big

469
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Speaker 3: drop up, but there is a drop off from Kelsey

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Speaker 3: to Irks and Kill.

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Speaker 4: That's the way I wanted to.

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Speaker 3: Go, especially with as Sean mentioned, there's about five six

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Speaker 3: I think wide receivers in that tier one.

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Speaker 2: On the hike, she pointed out everything birds, bushes, the

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Speaker 2: get back to football, Raymond. You mentioned going with lebeiond

552
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Speaker 2: Bell at the top of the third round. Can you

553
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Speaker 2: talk just a little bit more about the decision to

554
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Speaker 2: go with three running backs? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So, in this kind of format again, you know, thirteen

556
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Speaker 3: players scored at least averaged at least twenty half GPR points,

557
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Speaker 3: last year, eight of them are quarterback, so you know,

558
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Speaker 3: there's not you know, I think in these four man's

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Speaker 3: and smaller leagues in general, you are trying to get

560
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Speaker 3: You're not trying to just get a solid roster. Does

561
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Speaker 3: like you really need players that are going to be

562
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Speaker 3: the outliers, that are going to be that top scoring

563
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Speaker 3: player at the position.

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Speaker 4: And so that's what.

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Speaker 3: I'm really gunning for early, and because you know, I

566
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Speaker 3: felt that Pete already kind of took that away from me,

567
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Speaker 3: you know, for the most part at tight end, because

568
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Speaker 3: I do feel like there's a difference between Kelsey and Earth.

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Speaker 3: I feel like if Earth has a or Chittle excuse me,

570
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Speaker 3: has a top season, it's not going to be that

571
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Speaker 3: same kind of outlier that it might be for Kelsey,

572
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Speaker 3: who's still you know, his he averaged about with over

573
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Speaker 3: fifteen half PPR points a game, So that's still down

574
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Speaker 3: from the start running backs. So the maximum you can

575
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Speaker 3: start in a given week is three started running back.

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Speaker 4: So I was fine with starting the draft with three.

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Speaker 3: Then I kind of yeered off because I didn't want

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Speaker 3: to necessarily kind of cannibalize some of that upside that

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Speaker 3: I might potentially get, Like let's say let's say Saquon

580
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Speaker 3: is scoring, you know, twenty points every week and go

581
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Speaker 3: and DJR as well, I'm not gonna need on my

582
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Speaker 3: RB four and five as much as I might need him.

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Speaker 4: You know, it might not do this give me the

584
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Speaker 4: same advantage that it would.

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Speaker 3: And as you kind of mentioned, the top freeman in

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Speaker 3: a twelve man where you know, there's just it's just

587
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Speaker 3: harder to get that kind of that kind of running

588
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Speaker 3: back depth.

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Speaker 4: So that's why I kind of went away.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I love I love Waiveing honest year, I

591
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Speaker 3: don't think that he's going to be a disappointment by

592
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Speaker 3: any stretch of the imagination. I think Adam Gase will,

593
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Speaker 3: we'll ride him in the run game, in the past game,

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Speaker 3: and and again I think Darna will taking Stutch over all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Sean, at three point two, you went with Hawkins.

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Speaker 2: So the decision between Adams and Hopkins ended up really

597
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Speaker 2: not mattering all that much. But can you talk about

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Speaker 2: the desire to have those two guys to go with

599
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Speaker 2: two wide receivers in the first three rounds instead of

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Speaker 2: hitting the running back position.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that was a little bit of letting

602
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Speaker 5: the draft come to me. I didn't think that ray

603
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Speaker 5: Bam was going to take three running backs to start,

604
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Speaker 5: so I thought he might take the Hopkins in one

605
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Speaker 5: of the stud running backs there. But since he went

606
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Speaker 5: with both running backs, that kind of ended that RB

607
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Speaker 5: one tier that I wanted. So I was happy to

608
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Speaker 5: take Hopkins, and you know, like I said, sort of

609
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Speaker 5: pick off at that top six tier, and looking over

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Speaker 5: all at the position, there was about one hundred point

611
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Speaker 5: drop off from you know, the top two receivers to

612
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Speaker 5: about wide receiver twenty nine or thirty, which I thought,

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Speaker 5: you know, we'd probably draft about thirty wide receivers, so

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Speaker 5: I was doing a more overall approach there and then figured,

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Speaker 5: you know, these running backs, we're gonna drop a little

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Speaker 5: bit while you guys go on to wide receiver run later.

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Speaker 5: So I was just planning, you know, five to six

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Speaker 5: rounds in advance at this point. So I was happy

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Speaker 5: to just have Hopkins come to me, and the decision

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Speaker 5: between the two didn't really matter all.

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Speaker 2: Right, So at three point three I took Gurly. I

622
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Speaker 2: am probably an idiot, but live free or die. I

623
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Speaker 2: was just going with this mentality that if he's actually healthy,

624
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Speaker 2: he's a potential league winner. Because he does have the

625
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Speaker 2: upside of scoring twenty touchdowns in a season in getting

626
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Speaker 2: a lot of receptions. So that's really what I was

627
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Speaker 2: looking for there at three point four. In four point one,

628
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Speaker 2: Pete crushed us as has been mentioned, by taking zach

629
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Speaker 2: Ertz and then George Kittle Pete. I would like to

630
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Speaker 2: get your thoughts on I was just not necessarily on

631
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Speaker 2: the strategy of going with tight ends, but bypassing running

632
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Speaker 2: backs early in the draft, you think it's it's safe

633
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Speaker 2: to do that.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely do this draft. I did make a mistake. I

635
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Speaker 1: given how the draft, winn should have had six running backs

636
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Speaker 1: seven receivers. I do you think one of the biggest

637
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Speaker 1: mistakes people are making is not drafting seven d eight receivers

638
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Speaker 1: in these drafts because they count for a minimum thirty

639
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Speaker 1: seven and a half percent of your scoring. With the

640
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Speaker 1: variants of receivers and the distributions of receivers, they end

641
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Speaker 1: up being your flex more than running backs. Even in

642
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Speaker 1: the shorter drafts the three Man's last year, receivers were

643
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Speaker 1: in the flex very often, so they end up accounting

644
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Speaker 1: for about forty two to forty three percent of your

645
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Speaker 1: overall scoring, which means you should be taking seven to

646
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Speaker 1: eight of them, so to me, there's also a big

647
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Speaker 1: tear drop off. And with running backs, I'm totally with Raybond.

648
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Speaker 1: I love David Johnson this year. He's my fourth ranked

649
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Speaker 1: running back, so I target him quite a bit, and

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Speaker 1: then after that, I just kind of let things fall.

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Speaker 1: I think Kyler Murray is going to be amazing for him,

652
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: and just that offense is going to play so up

653
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: tempo that David Johnson has a really really high ceiling

654
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: this year. So yeah, bypassing running back, I'm totally fine

655
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: just kind of letting that whole tier just kind of

656
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: get drafted, and then people wait, I mean David Johnson

657
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: is going in like the six or seventh round, and

658
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: a lot of these foreman's Now. I think there's a

659
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: huge premium on the elite wide receivers Hopkins, Adams, Michael Thomas,

660
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: Julio Jones, Odell Beckham, those guys are are really big

661
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: premium for me. The three tight ends, so I was

662
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: thrilled to get the tight ends. I think I gain

663
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: a big edge versus the field having those three because

664
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Speaker 1: you guys are going to be scoring so much less

665
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Speaker 1: at the tight end position, which is why I was

666
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Speaker 1: able to, which is why I was happy to do it.

667
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: But I do want those receivers, which fortunately I was

668
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 1: able to grab six receivers after taking the three tight ends.

669
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Speaker 2: All of these humble brags, they're just they're killing me. Okay,

670
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: there's no money on the line, and just pride, you know.

671
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Speaker 5: I sort of like I screwed all of us over.

672
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: That's the reason to take three. From an overall projection standpoint.

673
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: The I've modeled it out, the best cases you get

674
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: Kelsey and Hurts are Kelsey and Kittle, and then you

675
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: just don't take a tight end. Most leagues, I am

676
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: taking three tight ends, but if you can grab two

677
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: of the top three, that's the best case for your

678
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: overall team. The argument to take all three of them

679
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: is to hurt your opponents, and the four man's are

680
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: a winner take off. So I do think it makes

681
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: sense to do that when given the opportunity. But if

682
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: Adams or Hopkins would have been there, I would have

683
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Speaker 1: left one of the tight ends, cause I think those

684
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Speaker 1: were are worth a lot as well.

685
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: That's my bad, guys.

686
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I do think Gurley is going in

687
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Speaker 1: like the thirteenth or fourteenth round, in these.

688
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: Format's not free. Yeah, I mean it was. It was

689
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: definitely a docu move. The three tight end approach is

690
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: such a dominant approach. It's yeah. I mean when when

691
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: you did it, it wasn't a surprise that you did it.

692
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: At the same time, it was totally a surprise. At

693
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: four point two, I went with James Connor. I just

694
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of potential upside there. I think

695
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: he's a better pass catcher. Then people gave him credit

696
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: for entering the NFL and even coming out of last season,

697
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: so expecting him basically to be the guy that we

698
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: saw for the first fourteen games of the year. And

699
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: I don't think there's going to be a big drop

700
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: off in that offense with the departure of Antonio Brown.

701
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: I think they're pretty much still going to be the

702
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: high flying Steelers man. At four point three, Sean, you

703
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: went with Patrick Mahomes, taking the first quarterback off the board.

704
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: Can you talk about the decision to take Mahomes that

705
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: early and do you have thoughts on the late round

706
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: quarterback strategy in general in the four person drafts?

707
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, you know, in twelve man drafts, I definitely

708
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 5: wait till you know, pass around ten before even consider QB,

709
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 5: and I kind of mentioned it earlier that you know,

710
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 5: these drop offs sort of even out when you have

711
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 5: eleven to twenty three picks between you. This is his

712
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 5: case where I I have Mahomes twenty five points higher

713
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 5: than the next guy, and that's even factoring in a

714
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 5: ton of regression.

715
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 4: I only haven't.

716
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 5: Projected for about thirty six and a half passing touchdowns,

717
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 5: so it's not like I'm being outrageous with my projections

718
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 5: with him. So just with that drop off alone, I

719
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 5: thought it was worth taking him there because I was

720
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 5: looking ahead and I you know, I saw I would

721
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 5: get either Julio Odell or Juju. I'd probably still get

722
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 5: two out of three of the last of the RB

723
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Speaker 5: one tier I wanted, and then Pete already took all

724
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 5: the tight ends, so I was just gonna wait for

725
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 5: the mid range tight end, which everyone failed to me.

726
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 5: So it didn't really change the next four or five

727
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 5: rounds of you know, my draft. So you know, it

728
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 5: was like, do I risk having Mahomes take him by

729
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 5: round eight? No, I just took him there, and you know,

730
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 5: the next four or five picks are exactly what I

731
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 5: would have had regardless, So I just felt that was

732
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 5: the time to take that twenty five point drop off.

733
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Speaker 2: Why not? All right, So after Corner took Mahomes, we

734
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: had Raybond going wide receiver wide receiver at the end

735
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: of the fourth round and top of the fifth round

736
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Speaker 2: with Michael Thomas and Julio Jones. Raymond, can you talk

737
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: a little bit about how you are ranking your wide receivers,

738
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Speaker 2: specifically Julio versus obij or just kind of how your

739
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 2: wide receiver tiers are shaking out.

740
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Speaker 3: You know, the thing, I love OBJ this year because

741
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: I love Baker Mayfield this year. Well, I'm sure we'll

742
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 3: talk about later on, but this the thing about this

743
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: is there's no roster rooms, and so I just felt

744
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: that I feel that Ogo is a much larger injury

745
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 3: risk than both Julio and Michael Thomas at this point,

746
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: I'm their respective careers. And so that's why in a

747
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 3: lot of Best Ball formats, you know, I'm actually fading

748
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: Odell a little bit, like I'm a little bit more

749
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: in redraft where if something does go wrong, you know,

750
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: I could still kind of make up for it, and

751
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: I'm not kind of stuck with this guy it took

752
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: really high that I think has one of the higher

753
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 3: injury risks someone stud players and any position.

754
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 4: So that was really why.

755
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: And you know, again, I think Julio, Michael Thomas, those

756
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: guys are are are in that same tier. And you know,

757
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: for me, it was just getting two guys that I

758
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 3: think could finish as the top wide receiver in fantasy.

759
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: You know, that's that's kind of what I'm thinking of

760
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 3: when when I'm doing these smaller drafts. It's it's not

761
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 3: just the strategy is really just I need the outliers.

762
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 3: I need the highest scoring players at positions because everyone's

763
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: going to have really good players and everyone's going to

764
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: have studs, and so you know, I probably would have

765
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 3: taken or at least thought about taking my homes in

766
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: this spot. But I do think there will be a

767
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 3: little bit of regression as Sean mentioned, And I think

768
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 3: you know, when you talk about, you know, from a

769
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 3: homes at a position that's not a flex, a twenty

770
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: five point drop off is essentially about points and a half,

771
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: and I thought that it's so my late round quarterback

772
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: strategy is a little different in these formats.

773
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 4: It's not necessarily that like I would like to have

774
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: my home.

775
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: But if I don't get him, it's more so that

776
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: I'm just going to be a little bit more aggressive

777
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 3: when I think that the next tier guys who I

778
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: think could out you know, have a reasonable at least

779
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 3: the as semblance of a chance to outscore.

780
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: Mahomes, which are you know, Deshaun.

781
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: Watson, Baker Mayfield, Andrew Luck and Kyler Murray, you know,

782
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: and Aaron Rodgers, so and so I think those guys

783
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 3: are kind of I'm final with being aggressive for them.

784
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: I'm not going to necessarily wait on purpose, but you know,

785
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 3: I just felt at this point that I wanted to get,

786
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 3: you know, two guys that if Hopkins or Adams Falters,

787
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: they could be those overall wide receiver ones.

788
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: All right, So at five point two, Sean, you went

789
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: with Beckham. I'm imagining that Beckham is maybe the last

790
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: wide receiver in your kind of top of the wide

791
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: receiver tiers or or one of the guys in there.

792
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: But can you talk about Beckham in going with him

793
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: as opposed to drafting and running back here? Yeah, so

794
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: right there.

795
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 5: Like you said, I was trying to get the last

796
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 5: guy from the top six that I had mentioned.

797
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 4: I knew.

798
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 5: You know, there's no way he, Juju or Antonio Brown

799
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 5: would all make it back to me. I thought Pete

800
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 5: would take a running back here, So you know, I

801
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 5: figured I was gonna get either two out of three

802
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 5: out of Joe Mixon, Dalvin Cook or Nick Chubb. They're

803
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 5: all the same to me, so I didn't really have

804
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 5: a preference. So I thought, right here, it's basically taking

805
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 5: Odell Beckham over like a Mike Evans as opposed to

806
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 5: taking my pick of the three running backs that consider equal.

807
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 5: So I just took the chance of taking Beckham there

808
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 5: and then hope two out three of Mixon, Cook, and

809
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 5: Chubb made it back to me and you guys would

810
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 5: decide which two I got.

811
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 2: So I went with Mixon at five point three, just

812
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: to finish off my running back times five strategy at

813
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: the top of the draft. And I do see actually

814
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: a difference between Mixon and Cook and Chubb. I think

815
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: Mixon is, relative to Chubb, a much better pass catcher

816
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: relative to Cook, someone who is healthier. I mean, he's

817
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: not in a good offense. That's one thing that is

818
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 2: very clear with Mixon. His offense could be very bad,

819
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: but he is a big bodied three down guy who

820
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 2: was really productive in college, has been productive in the NFL,

821
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: has good athleticism, So happy to get him. I think

822
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: there's a you know, a universe that isn't really all

823
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: that unthinkable in which Mixon is a top three, top

824
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 2: five running back at the end of the year. So

825
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: happy to get him. Pete, I was expecting you to

826
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 2: take a running back at some point in the fifth

827
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: round or the sixth round, but you went with Juju

828
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: and Antonio Brown. Can you talk about kind of your

829
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 2: wide receiver tiers a little bit and where you see

830
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: Juju and Antonio Brown stacking in those tiers, and then

831
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: why a wide receiver over running back? Yeah?

832
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: I agree with you on mixing too. He's kind of

833
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: the last guy for me. I have him ahead of

834
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: Chubb and Cook as well. Friedman, So I did like

835
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: that pick. Although I would have taken receiver. I'm taking

836
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: these same receivers over even David Johnson and Melvin Gordon

837
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: in these foremans. So to me, Juju is kind of fringe,

838
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: maybe in the tier of his own. I agree that Beckham,

839
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: Julio and Michael Thomas are ahead, but then Jujus ahead

840
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: of the next crew.

841
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 2: Of guys.

842
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't actually love Antonio Brown this year, although I

843
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: do think the Raiders will bounce back and be better offensively,

844
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: but he's the next wide receiver in that tier, and

845
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm just at this point in the draft really focused

846
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: on getting these wide receivers. So I love Mike Evans.

847
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: He's probably my favorite. Actually have Mike Evans a little

848
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: bit ahead of Antonio Brown. He's one of my favorite targets.

849
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm targeting the Buccaneers heavy this year. I love Evans, Godwin,

850
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: Winston and Howard quite a bit, but I was hopeful

851
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: that he might fall, which fortunately he did. So those

852
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: are the guys that I'm looking at, and I'm just

853
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: drafting receiver like crazy in these rounds in the foremats

854
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: until Julian Edelman's off the board.

855
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we will definitely talk about Mike Evans in part

856
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: two of the episode, speaking about the Bucks. At six

857
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: point two, I took O J. Howard and maybe I

858
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 2: went tight end earlier than I had to. But you know,

859
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: as Pete mentioned earlier, Howard is I think pretty clearly

860
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 2: the fourth guy in the tight end rankings, and based

861
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: on the power move that Pete made by going with

862
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: the three tight ends. I didn't want to get shut

863
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: out of tight ends. And again I thought there was

864
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: a pretty clear difference between Howard and the tier of

865
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: guys underneath him. Uh, So I took Howard. Uh Again,

866
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: maybe I went a little bit early at tight end,

867
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Speaker 2: but feel pretty good about Howard at six or in

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Speaker 2: the sixth round, Sean at six point three, you went

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Speaker 2: with Dalvin Cook. I'd like to get your thoughts on

870
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Speaker 2: him injury concerns, anything there, And then also thoughts on

871
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Speaker 2: Kubiak in the impact that he might have on the offense.

872
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: Although he's not technically the offensive coordinator, I think he

873
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: is going to have a pretty heavy hand in what

874
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Speaker 2: that team does. So what are your thoughts with Cook?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know, I don't love Cook. It was

876
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 5: more of necessity at this point. I definitely had to

877
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 5: start taking running backs. I do like the end of

878
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 5: this RB one tier in the beginning of RB two tier.

879
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 5: So I was happy to get Cook here. You know,

880
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 5: it is a concern. His health is a concern, but

881
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 5: I think best ball might mitigate that.

882
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: A little bit.

883
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak could help.

884
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: You know.

885
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 5: They fired John d Filippo last year after that Monday

886
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 5: football disaster, and then you know, it was clear they

887
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 5: wanted to become a more balanced team. And then very

888
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 5: next game, Dalvin Cook had season highs in every rushing

889
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 5: stat nineteen carries, one hundred and threty six yards, two touchdowns.

890
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 5: So I think this year they tried to be a

891
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 5: bit more balanced. With Latavia's Murray gone, you know, he

892
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 5: has his ceilings a little bit higher to become a

893
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 5: workhorse back. Rookie Alexander Madison could fill in Murray's role,

894
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 5: but you know, no guarantee. So I just thought, you know,

895
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 5: I like Cook's upside here and wanted to get him

896
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 5: before you know, I have a pretty big drop off

897
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 5: from these guys to the you know next year of

898
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 5: Sony Michelle there, Henry Leonard Fournette. So definitely wanted to

899
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Speaker 5: grab him here. But you know, he's got to stay healthy.

900
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 5: I don't, you know, overweight injury history too much. I'm

901
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 5: just guessing he'll be fine this year, but with him,

902
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 5: that's always a concern, all.

903
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: Right, Raybond, you closed out the sixth round with Adam

904
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Speaker 2: Feelin and then at the top of the seventh round,

905
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Speaker 2: which we're going to talk about in the next episode,

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Speaker 2: you went with Stefon Diggs. Uh. Here, I'd like to

907
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: get your thoughts on going with another wide receiver and

908
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: passing up on running back.

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00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: I just thought that with the three running backs I

910
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 3: had Parkley, Leveon Bell and David Johnson and levey On Bell,

911
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 3: that those guys just had such high floor ceiling combos

912
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: that I didn't want to cannibalize it.

913
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Speaker 4: Yet when you know, I think what what Peach.

914
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Speaker 3: Said, it was really shock just about how you end

915
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: up with receivers in the flex anyway. So I thought,

916
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 3: you know, if if if I end up with those

917
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 3: three running backs in the flex and again those you know,

918
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Speaker 3: those guys would likely be the highest scoring players in

919
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Speaker 3: the league.

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Speaker 4: If that, if they are my you know, the third

921
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Speaker 4: guy is my flex a lot.

922
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Speaker 3: I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't kind

923
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Speaker 3: of ruining some of my upside from.

924
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 4: Potentially nailing those picks by running it back.

925
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 3: No pun intended, just yet, I wanted to continue to

926
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Speaker 3: hit wide receiver because I think that after that top

927
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Speaker 3: you know, those top maybe those RB ones in a

928
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Speaker 3: normal twelve team league or so, there is kind of

929
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Speaker 3: a drop off and start getting into that that you know, frozen.

930
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 4: Pond tier, and that you know, almost frozen pond tier.

931
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Speaker 3: So I just felt at this point that I wanted

932
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Speaker 3: to keep kind of, you know, banging wide receiver and

933
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Speaker 3: making sure that I had an advantage or try to

934
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Speaker 3: get an advantage at running back in wide receiver, because

935
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Speaker 3: I thought, you know, I think quarterback is generally going

936
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Speaker 3: to flatten out between all three of us, just because

937
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: it's only a format weeks and you only need to

938
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Speaker 3: take eight quarterbacks really or whatever. And I thought that

939
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: Pete already had that advantage at tight end. So I'm

940
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: really kind of aiming for trying to win running back

941
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Speaker 3: in wide receiver so that I think that will be

942
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: my best way of kind of if I end up

943
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Speaker 3: beating you guys, that's that's how I'm gonna have to

944
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Speaker 3: do it.

945
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to have a.

946
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Speaker 3: Really high score in the flex every week, like one

947
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: of those outlier scores. And I thought I might have

948
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: might have kind of accomplished that already, so and the

949
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Speaker 3: back that I could take later on would kind of

950
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Speaker 3: as long as I took you know, I was planning

951
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Speaker 3: to take six backs, so as long as I took

952
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: six backs, and I thought it would kind of even

953
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 3: out later on, and I didn't need to take another

954
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Speaker 3: one yet.

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Speaker 2: All right, That is going to do it for Part

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Speaker 2: one this two part episode of the Action Network NFL podcast.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to check out Part two. Please rate interview

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Speaker 2: the show on iTunes for Sean and Chris and Peter.

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Speaker 2: I'm Matthew Friedman Matteth the Oracle. See you in next episode.