WEBVTT - Too Deep & You'll Drive Her Away! 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:13.520 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:17.560 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong Show, Katty. 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:31.480 Armstrong and Jack, Katy and He arms Draw yet live 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:36.519 from Studio C Senior feet within the dirty bowels of 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.800 the Armstrong and Getty Information Complex. This is the Armstrong 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.960 and Getty Show for Friday, the tenth of April, the 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:47.519 Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty six. And you know 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:49.880 it's funny. I forgot to come up with titles for today. 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:53.000 Jack is off. He will be checking in later. But 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:54.720 if I had, it would have something to do with 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:59.160 astronauts plunging back to Earth, wars that look like ceasefires, 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:04.440 and ceasefires that look like wars. Milennia making mysterious statements 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:08.959 might have factored in the title, and I might have 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:12.240 gone for the Masters as well. I shouldn't curse it. 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:17.520 I have one friend who is a professional golfer and 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.160 he had a great day in the first round and 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.679 fingers crossed he makes the cutting plays on the weekend. Anyway, 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:27.240 more on that maybe later. Great show planned out for 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:32.080 you today, including conversations I'm really looking forward to with 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:36.720 Greg Lukianov of Fire, which is the Foundation for Individual 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:40.920 Rights and Expression started out as Foundation for Individual Rights 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.640 and Education, but they've branched out to defend free speech 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.560 in general, which is, you know, is like Mike chihat 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.560 number one talking to Mike Lyons about the situation in 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:53.920 Iran slash the Straits of Hormuz slash Israel, Lebanon and 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:57.080 everywhere else that the fighting is going on. And on 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.480 that topic, I really really want to bring to you 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:04.640 a piece written by a terrific author who says the 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.080 title is why the West refuses to call this a 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:12.079 holy war when it clearly is. So we'll lay that out. Also, 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:16.200 Tim Sandefer has a new book out about the Declaration 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.680 of Independence and our nation's two hundred and fiftieth birthday. 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.600 Super thought provoking. Always fun to talk to Tim, And 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:25.680 we'll also be talking to Gordon Chang during our four 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:30.239 about this situation with China, which is receded a bit 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.359 into the background, but there are a couple of really 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:39.760 really interesting angles, including it's become clear Trump two is 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:45.520 way more conciliatory and dare I say soft on China 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:51.480 than Trump one was. And I praised Trump one lavishly 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:55.960 for all of his imperfections waking up the country to 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.639 what a threat China is. So what does all this mean. 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.840 We'll talk about that with the Gordon Chang looking forward 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:05.360 to that. Why don't we go ahead and start the 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.480 show officially now because we want to talk about the 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.720 topic of the clip. Here we go at Mark. 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:13.840 I was just talking to an employee out here at 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.320 the Space Center in Houston and they were explaining, Yeah, 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.560 there is no Plan B. They're coming home. The Artemist 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:21.680 two crew has been up in space for more than 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.280 a week and now they're preparing for the most dangerous 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.680 lag of their journey here, re entry. It's a high 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:31.600 speed plunge back through the Earth's atmosphere, so oriyan, the 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.200 space craft that they're in is going to slam into 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:37.520 the atmosphere at nearly twenty five thousand miles an hour. 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.760 Sally Bradley on News Nation. I think it may have 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.680 been on ABC News. Is that the one that bent 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:52.400 knows jackasses on Katie David Muir ABC? Yep, Yeah, they 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.360 had an expert on that actually put it in a way. 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:57.720 It never occurred to me. I'm not good at physics 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:01.720 and that sort of thing, But when you blast off 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:07.120 the spacecraft with spectacular amounts of energy, and it achieves 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.880 mind boggling speeds and then sling shots around the Moon 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:15.360 and the rest of it. Something has to arrest that 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:20.120 energy so it can land gently in the water. All 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.599 of that energy has to get dissipated, and it gets 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:28.279 dissipated by the re entry into the atmosphere, which is 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.960 again a fire ball of certain death unless the heat 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:38.480 shield holds. God blessed. Was it the Challenger that broke 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.760 apart on re entry? Apologies if that's not the right 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:45.600 mission that broke up over Texas, But anyway, their heat 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.679 shield had gotten damaged and failed and it was horrible. 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:56.720 But yeah, it's a near incomprehensible exchange of energy if 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.200 you will to slow the capsule down. Let's go ahead 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.080 a little more with the Alley Bradley report. 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.680 Now, if the trajectory is off just a little bit, 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:08.039 it could be catastrophic. Too steep, the crew could face 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.960 intense g forces and structural stress. Too shallow in the 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:15.960 spacecraft could bounce off of the atmosphere entirely. The capsule 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.160 is going to generate temperatures close to five thousand degrees 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:22.520 during re entry, becoming a fireball as it tears through 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.520 the sky. Mission control expects to lose contact with the 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.599 crew for several minutes during reentry. 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:30.800 Yeah, that's actually a couple of really good tips for 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.720 your first conversation with a woman. You'd like to impress 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:40.560 too deep and you'll drive her away too shallow. Same result, 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.920 got to go perfect trajectory, Michael, I know you know this. Yeah, 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.920 studied under my wing for many years and not wrong. 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.520 That's how you landed the beautiful girl you married, you 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:53.560 lucky dog. So let's plunge on now with the CBS 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:57.200 Evening News talking about the very same, extremely high risk 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:58.920 re entry situation. 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:02.080 The unpiloted artem IS one mission in twenty twenty two. 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:06.040 This is video looking outside it's blistering re entry. 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.000 Pieces of the heat shield kept flying off. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:14.160 Engineers later found holes and cracks poking the shield's outter Charlayer. 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:18.279 A crew would have survived, but it was worrisome. NASA 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.200 decided to keep the same heat shield but modify the 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:25.640 trajectory of a capsule's return. Lead Flight director Jeff Rattigan. 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.480 We've done our homework, and we've really done the testing 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.560 to feel good about it. I do feel good about it. 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.440 Yes, when we talked to the crew about the heat shield, 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.240 they all said they were confident that NASA had made 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:36.800 the right call and the right fix. 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:43.880 Fair enough, Katie, you as a grizzled taker inner of 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:49.400 news is the heat shield might fail stuff clickbait or 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.440 I mean because we've re entered on from space missions 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.880 many times right successfully. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.559 I think it's the fact that it's the same heat 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.400 shield that they're kind of leaning on because and the 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.560 images that they were talking about in that video it 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:06.480 looked bad. I mean that the outside was destroyed. So 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:10.440 if they don't get this new trajectory right, you know, 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:11.760 this could be awful. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:16.160 Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I'm torn because I don't want to 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.320 overplay this. On the other hand, I'm a huge fan 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.640 of space missions, as are all of us in Jack 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.440 as well, and I worry about these guys as they 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:28.000 return to Earth. Yeah, NASA is so exacting. If they say, oh, no, 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:29.760 it was the trajectory and we got it right now, 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.120 I would tend to believe them. I mean, if they 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.280 say the things coming down at eight forty three am, 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.880 it'll be down at eight forty three am, not eight 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:41.200 forty four or eight forty two. So I certainly hope 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.160 they're as competent as they seem to be, although they're 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.480 having a couple of terrible disasters. One more clip on 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:50.120 this topic. This is Daniel leave Us, who was an 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:51.880 I think he was an astronaut. 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:52.520 Right, he was an astronaut. 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:53.960 Yeah, okay, let's hear him. 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.520 I'm going to give you three numbers to remember. Twenty 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:01.960 five thousand, five thousand and ten. The artimist Ryan capsule 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.560 can be coming in at twenty five thousand miles an 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.440 hour and entering in your atmosphere. 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:07.760 During that time, it. 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:11.200 Will be dissipating heat. The peak temperatures on a rime 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:15.400 will reach five thousand degrees and it'll have to pass 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.040 through that thicker part of the thinner part of the 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:20.240 atmosphere that fast. It'll take about ten minutes to get 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:21.920 through it all. So once we get through the first 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.680 ten minutes of re entry, then we're home free and 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.679 pass the peak heating area of re entry. 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:33.079 Ten or so minutes at five thousand degrees. Yeah, I mean, 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.120 what do you clean your oven at like five hundred, 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:39.240 five hundred and fifty five fifty so ten times as 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:44.960 hot as that for ten minutes? Great, Scott. Okay, say 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:48.000 it quiet, prayer, cross your fingers, or whatever you like 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:51.960 for America's heroes. I think it's so important that we 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.319 as a country continue to reach out and explore and 0:08:55.440 --> 0:09:00.959 dare to do exciting things, grow scientifically, the intellectually. The 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:05.520 stare at your naval crowd. Uh, they're they're they're the 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.960 worst thing for the country. We need to continue to 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:12.400 be bold and and and you know here I am 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.480 prattling on and on about how I want these people 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:18.160 to be safe, but taking chances, whether it's a country 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.240 or in life, don't don't curl up into the fetal position, 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.920 just wait to be dead as a human being or 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:24.839 a country. Yeah, kiddy. 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.839 Well, And the confidence that these astronauts have too, I mean, 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:29.839 because I mean they're the ones doing this, and they're 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:31.640 up there saying, no, this is gonna be this is 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.000 gonna be great. NASA nailed it. 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:37.000 So I've seen the science. We're fine. Yeah. Maybe they 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:38.760 just don't want to talk about it. Oh my gosh, 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.400 that they're just crapping their pants. Can we talk about 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.160 something else, please? I want to talk about the HL anymore. 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.840 I got it all right, So we're gonna break now. 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.760 Sam I on time because we have clips of the 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:53.199 week and Katie's headlines squeezed together so we can talk 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:56.080 to Greg lukian Off at the bottom of that the 0:09:56.080 --> 0:10:04.200 hour police do stay with us, Welcome, thanks for being here, 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.080 all right. I came up with a couple of titles 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.320 real quick. First of all, a game of Telephone with 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:12.800 five different languages. That's what the negotiations remind me of. 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.160 You remember the game of Telephone? Oh he play as 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:15.520 a kid? 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:16.880 Yeah? 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:22.520 Yeah, yeah. That game always almost disturbed me because I 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.760 could and it's just the way my brain works. I 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.880 could remember what they said verbatim, I mean exactly, yeah, 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.240 just I couldn't not remember it, so I never quite 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.000 got how it twisted. I would get impatient with people 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.600 and be like, just say what the person said to you, 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.240 not realizing that everybody's brain works differently. 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.480 I never played with people mature enough to not mess 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:43.280 it up on purpose. 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:47.160 Oh okay, hilarious. See I have no sense of humor, 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.400 so I wouldn't accept that either. And then my other 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.040 title is going to be be my Guest, because we've 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.520 got some great ones, including Greg Lukianoff coming up in 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:58.440 Moments from Fire. But first, before we get to Katie's 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.640 headlines were compressing. Everything is making this up as we go. 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:03.600 Let's take a fun look back at the week that was. 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:04.880 It's cow clips of the week. 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:12.600 The weak open the expletive straight, you crazy bastards. 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:17.080 Open the fine straight, you crazy bastards. Ron in the 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:21.280 US vowing to send each other to hell. The entire 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.040 country can be taken out in one night, and that 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:25.600 night might be tomorrow night. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:30.040 Failing to meet his terms will result in Iran being bombed. 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.360 Back to the quote Stone Ages, it. 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.000 Was truly the eleventh hour, down to the wire when 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.520 President Trump announced this ceasefire agreement. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:40.559 Yeah, we'll be hanging around. 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.959 We're not going anywhere. Stay two of the seas FA 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.079 is already looking shaky right now. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:51.119 President Trump's main condition for this truce is not being met. 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.440 The Iranians are still saying publicly they're in control of 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:55.319 the strait and that it. 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.880 Is closed right now, but we're overlittering and they just 0:11:58.960 --> 0:11:59.880 don't want to stay young. 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:01.760 What happened. 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:06.120 I don't think the voters fully understood, and neither did 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.520 we in the public schector, what it was going to 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.520 take to actually get this project delivered. 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.160 I can't stop thinking about how grass lawns are racist 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.000 and like based in white supremacy. 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:22.000 Ex person I found that strong gluten muscles can increase 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:28.320 a person's lifespan but also drainer brothers bank account. So 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.040 one of the tests that we do is trying to 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.560 get them to say something like Kim Johnan is a 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:33.319 ugly pig? 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:35.120 Could could you say that for me? 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.000 Yeah? 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:45.840 I so I have to say as you say, like. 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.600 Like every problem that we have in society right now 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.840 will be fixed when women come together. 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:56.679 They provided zero dollars to deal with the ongoing genocide 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.040 of MMI w G two s l g b t 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:03.240 qq i A. Mm I w G two s l g. 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:06.920 B t q q i A plus the lies linking 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:12.559 me with the disgraceful Jeffrey Epstein need to end today. 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:18.520 It's clips of the way. We'll see if we can 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:22.440 get to the millenia Epstein statement. At some point, I 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:26.600 think most everybody's reaction, including I've heard the White Houses 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:34.240 was okay, okay, gaybody's quite sure exactly what motivated it. 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.400 There are some clues some author put out some tell 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.800 All Type book has been doing podcasts saying that she 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:44.840 had an association with Epstein. But I mean, nobody knew 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.120 that had happened until she brought it to our attention. 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:49.920 So is there more to it than that? Katie? As 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.160 far as you can tell her. 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:55.319 The only source that I saw really hammering this message 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.080 was CNN, but they were saying, Oh, she's doing this 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.400 so she can get out in front of something before 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:01.800 it comes out to the public. 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:08.720 Yeah, okays, No, I just you know what, Malania seems 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:13.360 like a lovely gal. I can't see making the decisions 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.520 in life she's made. But I'm not a woman and 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:21.880 a Slovenia supermodel certainly. But thanks for bringing Epstein up again. 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:22.760 Damn it. 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:26.160 I know it was so close to just being in 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.680 the just the slight distant past. 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:32.760 Yeah comes again. All right, let's figure out who's reporting 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.400 what it's lead story. It's Katie Green, Katie, all right. 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:39.120 Starting with the major networks talking about Iran. Still, ABC, 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:44.720 Trump says Iran quote better not collect straight of Ormuz toll, CBS, 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.320 US and Iran prepare for talks as shaky ceasefire holds, 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:54.240 Straight of Hormuz traffic remains low, and NBC Pakistan and 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:58.440 France condemn Lebanon ceasefire violations. 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:04.520 Oh, shut up, France. I know Lebanon, I get well. 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.440 Quitd have an armed political parties Lebanon. I know we 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.360 can't help, but they're they're tougher than we are. But France, 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:10.880 shut up. 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:15.600 From the Wall Street Journal, inflation rose to three point 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:19.920 three percent in March, driven by rising fuel costs. 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.840 Yeah, is this a trend or a blip? Talking heads 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.200 are gonna babble all day long. I don't think we will, 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:27.760 but it's not good. 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.760 From The New York Post, Robert McIntyre flips the middle 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.119 finger in wild Master's meltdown. 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:41.680 Ah, yeah, he was unhinged. He's a really great Scottish golfer, 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:46.240 kind of pasty, slightly pudgy looking guy, but hot tempered 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.440 and a couple of times he like hit a bad 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:52.280 shot and slammed his club into the turf, which then 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.800 he and his caddy tried to set right. But you 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:59.040 don't do that at Augusta National Sun. There are super 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.000 famous champion golf offers who've screwed around, and Augustus said, 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.840 this is an invitational Tournament's son, you will not be 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:08.280 asked back again. So that's a major scandal in the 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.720 world of golf USA today. 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.960 Are you struggling with dating apps? It could be your 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.680 digital body language. 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:18.440 Oh, we need to get into that later. 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:25.280 Yes, study fines talking robot guide dog could change how 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.720 visually impaired people navigate. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:33.040 That is one of the area's AI could be wonderful. Yes, 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:38.480 the handicapped, blind, elderly could be incredible. Please don't crush 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.760 our civilization and drain our vital fluids please. 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:47.080 And finally, this one from the Babylon b Canadian astronaut 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:51.520 humanely euthanized after suffering light bruise during moon mission. 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:57.120 Oh that's a good shot at Canada's culture of death. Yeah, troubling. 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:57.480 Heavy. 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.080 You ended on a heavy note that was supposed to 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:03.080 be funny. I heavy guy, Yeah, I know. Wow, wow, wow. 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.480 You want to pick into the Babylon today? Sorry, your 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.280 annual review is going to be a rough one, all right, whatever, Hey, 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.160 can't wait to talk to Greg Luki on Off. He's 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.480 coming up in just a moment or two to talk 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:17.359 about free speech and speech on campuses and cancel culture 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.000 and all sorts of stuff Whateverwhere of the conversation goes. 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:26.760 First Amendment on our nation's birthday stay with us, Armstrong 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:31.639 and Getty. What a pleasure this is to talk about 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:36.520 the freedom of speech, the First Amendment, perhaps most vital 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:40.920 principle any self governing people can hold, with Greg luki 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.800 on off of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression. 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.439 Greg is actually the president and CEO, also the author 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.840 of a handful of books that I have really really enjoyed, 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:53.359 including Unlearning, Liberty, Campus Censorship, in the End of American Debate, 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:58.080 Freedom from Speech, and I really enjoyed a short ish 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.400 book that'd be a great place to start, the War 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.440 on Words, Arguments against free speech and why they fail 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.679 with Nadine Strawsen. Greg, welcome, How are you. 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:08.760 I'm pretty good. 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:12.640 Unfortunately, business is booming for First Amendment attorneys these days, 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:14.320 and that's never a good sign for the country. 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:21.160 Yeah. Yeah, And I think both sides indulged too frequently, 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.399 too easily in let's silence the other guys because we 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.480 don't like what they say. Obviously, How would you characterize 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.040 the state of free speech in the US right now? 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:31.040 And we'll just go from there. 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.760 Well, you know, I want to expand it even from there, 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.159 because I think people really need to get and I 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.120 want to say this to your entire audience. Free speech 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:45.280 is in trouble globally. Obviously China and Iran and Russia 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:49.280 we're not free countries, but the level of totalitarianism that 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:50.240 you can deliver with. 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.840 A combination of surveillance and AI is terrifying. 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:59.080 The European Union and the UK have completely turned turned 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:02.280 around on on free speech. So they're arresting something like 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:06.000 twelve thousand people a year in Britain now for essentially 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.560 hate speech in Britain. 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.560 I mean they my mother's British. 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.080 They used to laugh at us for political correctness here, 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:15.400 and now they're enforcing. 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:16.040 It by law. 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:20.040 Canada and Ireland we're playing with actually passing a hate 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:25.040 speech code that could result in life in prison, and 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:28.080 even within the US, like we're the only country left 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:30.760 that really cares about free speech, you know, down to 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.679 our core, and here I'm afraid we're blowing it as 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:37.640 well due to partisan politics. So I know, like I'm 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.800 a gen xer, people my age and older, whether we're right, 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.919 left or center, we get freedom of speech, but we 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:49.480 need people to come together to defend it for opinions. 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.119 They don't like, just like we used to in the 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:51.680 old days. 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.240 Because the only way you really prove that you care 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:56.560 about free speech is not defending the free speech that 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.000 you already agree with, but it's the stuff that you 0:19:59.160 --> 0:19:59.959 actually disdain. 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:01.760 That's how you show your commitment. 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.159 Precisely, I think we need to teach over and over 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:06.600 again that it's the sort of speech that anybody would 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:09.320 object to that needs to be protected, because speech nobody 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.760 objects to doesn't need protection, your ninnies. 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:15.200 You know, it strikes me well, except on campus sometimes, 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.520 but something can get you in trouble on campus sometimes. 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:20.320 It's like, I don't even understand how people manage to 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:21.239 be offended by that. 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:24.639 You know, I want to get to campuses specifically in 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:27.960 a minute. But it struck me as you were describing 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:32.800 the global free speech issues that the motivations beat behind 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:38.320 the cracking down on speech were different in different places. 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:42.760 Rampant immigration from the Muslim world in the UK in particular, 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:45.960 and Canada is one of the core issues. There, very 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:48.280 different issues in the US. But the thought that clicked 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:50.639 in my brain, and give me long enough, I'll come 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:54.160 up with the obvious is that the right, the fright, 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:56.800 the right to free speech is a bulwark against like 0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:00.880 any out of control cause, or or philosophy. 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:05.120 It absolutely is, because here's the thing, you know, we're 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:09.520 our founding fathers were brilliant. They were basically proto neuroscientists, 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:13.280 Like they understood that our brains are incredibly good at 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:17.119 rationalizing our way into something that suits our interests that 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:19.679 we can, you know, kid ourselves, we're actually thinking of 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:25.600 all humankind. And power always wants greater control over over 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:30.239 speech and even more dramatically truth. And this is one 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:32.879 of the reasons why we have the protections of the 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:33.439 First Amendment. 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.720 That's why we have an establishment clause for that matter. 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:40.800 There these are things that our system of government really understood, 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:44.320 but power will always rationalize its ability to be like 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:46.080 I should be able to shut up people who really 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:48.200 pissed me off, you know, like I should be able 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:51.479 to go after that speech. And here's my high minded, 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:56.120 sounded sounding reason to do it. And having something as 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.879 powerful as the First Amendment to say no, we're not 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:02.840 doing this ear has been one of our real saving graces, 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.399 but we're undermining it by a death of a thousand 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:06.240 cuts at the moment. 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:10.720 Well, and as you mentioned, it is highly disturbing that 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:14.480 a lot of the younger generations have and this is 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:21.000 entirely our fault, have been and esthetized into either not 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:24.800 noticing the incursions in free speech or encouraging them. The 0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:28.720 COVID period was an absolute nightmare in my opinion, the 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:31.680 exercise of government control, quashing of dissent and that sort 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:33.679 of thing, but. 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:38.040 Also the cultural aspect of it. So COVID in twenty twenty. 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:42.600 My organization, the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, used 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.640 to be the foundation for individual rights in education because 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:48.760