Speaker 1: Everybody.
Speaker 2: It's Thursday, January twenty third, twenty twenty five. Welcome to
Speaker 2: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.
Speaker 1: We're Haters with a heart to be your man named
Speaker 1: g Marcus.
Speaker 2: Grant, joined by Michael F. Florio and Lakwan Jones. And
Speaker 2: I say that because so Floria, I gotta give credit
Speaker 2: to the Bills Mafia, because y'all are weird. Y'all are
Speaker 2: obnoxious and very much over the top. But the Bills
Speaker 2: Mafia does have a reputation for helping out people that
Speaker 2: help them. You know, I remember obviously the Andy Dalton
Speaker 2: thing when the Bengals, you know, helped you guys get
Speaker 2: into the playoffs and in the playoff drop and the
Speaker 2: most recent one. Now I see that Bill's Mafia is
Speaker 2: donating to diabetes research in honor of Mark Andrews. So,
Speaker 2: you know, while on the one hand, Mark Andrews and
Speaker 2: his drops sort of helped you guys along in the
Speaker 2: AFC Championship.
Speaker 1: Game, it's nice to say Bills bar feels giving back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is They've done this a couple of times.
Speaker 3: I know they did it. Uh, this is a second
Speaker 3: time with the Ravens. They after beating them in the
Speaker 3: playoffs a couple of years ago, they donated to Lamar's charity.
Speaker 1: It is a very unique thing. I don't know of
Speaker 1: any other.
Speaker 3: Fan base that does this, but that's what makes it
Speaker 3: so cool. And I did see, speaking of haters, I
Speaker 3: saw someone on Twitter being like, did I ever donate
Speaker 3: when the player beats them? And it's like, no, man,
Speaker 3: that doesn't that's not in the nature of what this is.
Speaker 3: Like this is like, all right, we beat you.
Speaker 1: Guys, but at the end of the day, like it's
Speaker 1: bigger than.
Speaker 3: Football or whatever, you know, so like it's like losing
Speaker 3: a fight after that, he just got completely whooped and
Speaker 3: it's like, all right, here's twenty bucks. I know it
Speaker 3: doesn't make things better for Mark Andrews, but I'm sure
Speaker 3: it's got a just a little like even if it's
Speaker 3: one percent, he's got to be like, all right, some good.
Speaker 2: Came out of this, yeah, yeah, And why would you
Speaker 2: even think that, Like no, of course you're not going
Speaker 2: to donate after the team beats us, Like no, of course,
Speaker 2: not like they gotta win, Like why do I need
Speaker 2: to help them?
Speaker 1: More? So small percentage it has to be tongue in
Speaker 1: cheek though, like it's like, mm yeah, thanks, guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It just feels like it's a thing
Speaker 1: now and like people are noticing it even more now,
Speaker 1: and like if they do this next year, and let's say,
Speaker 1: you guys go all the way to the Super Bowl, Like,
Speaker 1: do they reward the Super Bowl losers? Like, maybe let's
Speaker 1: maybe two more weeks. Let's get ahead of ourselves here.
Speaker 1: You're right, well, we will.
Speaker 2: We will predict the championship games at the end of
Speaker 2: the show today because obviously this is our last one
Speaker 2: before Sunday hits, So I will.
Speaker 1: Get to that a little bit later on.
Speaker 2: We'll continue our exit interviews picks thirteen through sixteen in
Speaker 2: the upcoming drafts. So we're hitting pretty much the halfway
Speaker 2: spot of the first round, but starting with a couple
Speaker 2: of news headlines, both involving teams in the AFC East.
Speaker 2: So Floria will play close attention because this impacts you directly.
Speaker 1: Starting in New England, where what is old.
Speaker 2: Is new again, the Patriots are expected to hire former
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels as their next offensive coordinator. This
Speaker 2: is not a complete surprise, guys. We had heard this
Speaker 2: rumor recently, like a week ago. I think I gave
Speaker 2: a deep sigh of disappointment on the pod when we
Speaker 2: first talked about this a little while ago. But it
Speaker 2: looks like it is going to happen. Mike Vrabel, we know,
Speaker 2: was announced as the head coach. Now Josh McDaniels is
Speaker 2: coming back. They're going to try to get the band
Speaker 2: back together. I guess I don't know. I mean, look, Florio,
Speaker 2: we've seen Josh McDaniels as an offensive coordinator. He's certainly
Speaker 2: better as a coordinator than he has been as a
Speaker 2: head coach. You are maybe the number one Drake May
Speaker 2: stand on this show. Is this a good thing for
Speaker 2: Drake May?
Speaker 3: I want to say yes, and I agree he is
Speaker 3: a much better coordinator than he is head coach. But
Speaker 3: I'm also not positive of that because, like, look at
Speaker 3: his years as an OC with and without Tom Brady,
Speaker 3: Like it's night and day. And I understand, like when
Speaker 3: the Patriots lose Tom Brady twenty twenty twenty twenty one,
Speaker 3: it was Mac Jones' rookie year all of that, like,
Speaker 3: but it's still like all of his success has come
Speaker 3: under Bill Belichick and Tom Brady, and those.
Speaker 1: Are outside of maybe my holmes and Reid, which.
Speaker 3: Are trying to make a case for it. Though that's
Speaker 3: the greatest head coach quarterback duo in NFL history. Tom
Speaker 3: Brady's the goat. So I still have questions about this,
Speaker 3: but I do ultimately think it is a good thing
Speaker 3: because we have seen McDaniels get the most out of
Speaker 3: his offenses in New England, and even more than that,
Speaker 3: we've seen him be able to work when he has
Speaker 3: quarterback talent, and that is what I belie Drake May is.
Speaker 3: But man, I wish there was a like, don't you
Speaker 3: guys wish you could just leave your job whenever you
Speaker 3: wanted to go somewhere else and it was always just.
Speaker 1: Sitting there waiting for you to come back. Absolutely, that'd
Speaker 1: be a great situation in any job situation. But I
Speaker 1: feel like this is the third time, guys, we're in
Speaker 1: the third time this guy's going to be in that
Speaker 1: building calling plays. And you know, my expectations are for
Speaker 1: Drake May to be like this quarterback that we know
Speaker 1: he could be because the talent's there. I mean, Florio
Speaker 1: talked about it all season long of like you just
Speaker 1: see that wow in him every time you watch the game,
Speaker 1: and like the upside is there. And the good thing
Speaker 1: about this though, it's not like with adding McDaniel's it's
Speaker 1: gonna like shoot up any of these Patriots players ADPs like,
Speaker 1: I'll take the discount on Drake May, I'll take the upside.
Speaker 1: I'll take a Demerio Douglas. And you know, who knows
Speaker 1: what they do in free agency, who they bring in.
Speaker 1: There's some free agents available, some trades that could happen.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think this seems like a
Speaker 1: comfort move for the Patriots and a little familiarity, you know. Therefore,
Speaker 1: that's one hundred percent with this. This is absolutely a
Speaker 1: comfort move. It is it is getting the band back together.
Speaker 1: It is trying to rekindle the glory years that they
Speaker 1: had for literally two decades. And I say this as
Speaker 1: a USC alum and Stan watching that program try for
Speaker 1: years unsuccessfully to sort of rebuild the Pete Carroll era,
Speaker 1: like after he left and went to Seattle and the team,
Speaker 1: you know, they hit probation for a little bit, and
Speaker 1: they struggled to try and rebuild things. They just kept
Speaker 1: bringing in former Pete Carroll assistants as coordinators and head
Speaker 1: coaches and hoping that it would somehow respark the magic
Speaker 1: and it never did. Now, Look, I think we all
Speaker 1: agree like Mike Rabel is a good coach. He did
Speaker 1: the most I think with very little, relatively speaking, in
Speaker 1: Tennessee for a number of years. So maybe there's some
Speaker 1: optimism there.
Speaker 2: And yeah, Josh McDaniels was the offensive coordinator for some
Speaker 2: of their better years. But as you mentioned, they had
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick running the show, they had Tom Brady at quarterback,
Speaker 2: and they had a lot more talent across the board
Speaker 2: than they do right now. I mean, yeah, their wide
Speaker 2: receiver room was probably better this year than it had
Speaker 2: been the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: It still wasn't good.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we talked about the two rookies
Speaker 2: that they drafted with Polk and Javon Baker, and those
Speaker 2: guys combined for making make sure I get this right,
Speaker 2: thirteen catches for ninety nine yards not good really, but
Speaker 2: anywhere we're talking about like, yeah, I'll take a flyer
Speaker 2: on the Mario Douglas sixty six catches six hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty one yards. I'll take a late round dart throw
Speaker 2: at kay Shawan Boody forty three for five eighty nine.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Drake May shows some flashes and ideally
Speaker 2: he does improve and.
Speaker 1: Progress this year.
Speaker 2: This is a team that still doesn't have a lot
Speaker 2: of talent, and so that's why there's not gonna be
Speaker 2: a big bounce. I mean, all these guys come in
Speaker 2: a big discount because it's all sort of hope and
Speaker 2: good luck that that we're looking at when it comes
Speaker 2: to fantasy. So I don't know. I mean, I said
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels. Obviously he's had some success there. I know
Speaker 2: that's the reason they're bringing him back. He's familiar with
Speaker 2: the whole Patriot Way thing and whatever. It just it
Speaker 2: just feels lazy.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's.
Speaker 2: A it's another reboot, right, it's we we live in
Speaker 2: a world with three Spider Man twos, that's what this is.
Speaker 1: Man and how many Batman? Like how many times have
Speaker 1: we got to watch Batman parents die? Like it's one
Speaker 1: of those things too, Like come on, hey man, hey
Speaker 1: Thomas and Martha, maybe don't go to the theater.
Speaker 2: Or maybe just wait and leave till everybody else leaves
Speaker 2: and don't walk down an alley like.
Speaker 1: What are we doing here? Yeah? Zero wasn't that good
Speaker 1: when it came out like you don't have to go
Speaker 1: see that.
Speaker 3: I do love when a movie, like something like a
Speaker 3: Batman will take it and put their own spin on it.
Speaker 3: They're like, it's gonna be a similar story to what
Speaker 3: you know and expect, but we're gonna like that's what
Speaker 3: I wanted this Patriots regime to be. But like it's
Speaker 3: the same, same old, and this is the most important
Speaker 3: Hive was gonna make if he's overlooking the defense and stuff.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. So we'll see.
Speaker 2: We'll see if this is actually like a good rebooting
Speaker 2: sequel or I don't know, like if it's like the
Speaker 2: New Coming to America or something. Oh god, I actually
Speaker 2: didn't see that. It just seemed like a bad idea,
Speaker 2: that's all I saw it.
Speaker 1: You're on par you're on track.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, we will stay in the AMCs because the
Speaker 2: Jets have made a higher. This sertment floating around for
Speaker 2: a couple of days, but Aaron Glenn is the new
Speaker 2: head coach of the New York Jetropolitans. He played there
Speaker 2: at some point during his playing career as well. Lakwan,
Speaker 2: you had a lot of hate in your heart and
Speaker 2: you let it out about the Lions on Tuesday's show.
Speaker 2: Do you want to continue to pray and dance around
Speaker 2: at their potential downfall?
Speaker 1: You're gonna be the bigger person here. No, I'm sure, man,
Speaker 1: I can't do in any situation if I wanted to, Like, no,
Speaker 1: absolutely not, let's go the tray is down bad. But
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, I mean, look, I'm happy for that Jets defense.
Speaker 1: I mean, Sauce Gardner had a down year. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: he wasn't hisself. So you look at Jets DST as
Speaker 1: a fantasy option if you still have DST out there
Speaker 1: in your leagues, Like I look at this as a
Speaker 1: huge plus, you know, for the defense to get back
Speaker 1: on par and then honestly, who knows what they're going
Speaker 1: to do with that offense? Honestly, I mean Zaron Rodgers stain,
Speaker 1: is Davante Adams staying Like these are questions that we
Speaker 1: still have answered in January, and like as soon as
Speaker 1: the season starts getting closer, that's when we could really
Speaker 1: start a mold and see how this team's going to
Speaker 1: be as a culture. Is it going to be the circus?
Speaker 1: Part two? Is it going to be Jersey Shore, like
Speaker 1: we don't know man, Like we're all over the place
Speaker 1: with this Jets team. Yeah, and I think I don't know, Floria.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I can get high or low
Speaker 2: on the Jets offense until we figure a lot of
Speaker 2: things out right. I mean, we don't know who the
Speaker 2: coordinator is going to be. We don't know who the
Speaker 2: quarterback is going to be. There's just so many questions
Speaker 2: marks that.
Speaker 1: We don't know who works there. We really don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know whose key card still gets
Speaker 2: them in the door.
Speaker 1: We have no idea.
Speaker 2: So I guess until then, we can't really make any
Speaker 2: actual evaluations on what to expect from this offense, can't we?
Speaker 3: No, No, I because there's way, of all the thirty
Speaker 3: two offenses in the league, this one might.
Speaker 1: Have the most variables going into the offense.
Speaker 3: Because there's so like they have talent in place with
Speaker 3: Brice Hall, with Aaron Wilson, with DeVante Adams, but DeVante
Speaker 3: I believe is a free agent.
Speaker 1: Wilson has already asked to leave Aaron Rodgers futures up
Speaker 1: in the air.
Speaker 3: But I do like this hiring because the Jets have
Speaker 3: a lot of talent on defense and that is their
Speaker 3: path to success in the immediate future. So I think
Speaker 3: trying to go all in on what your strength is
Speaker 3: is smart. But my first takeaway with this was like,
Speaker 3: first time head coach, defensive minded head coach. Obviously the
Speaker 3: OC who they hire matters, but like, if you're Aaron
Speaker 3: Glenn right now, do you want to hit reset on
Speaker 3: that offense or are you thinking, Hey, keep Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: in place, keep the talent that we have on offen.
Speaker 3: I will get this defense to where it needs to
Speaker 3: be and we could be contenders like.
Speaker 1: We thought all along.
Speaker 3: So look, I could easily be wrong, but I feel
Speaker 3: like this hiring maybe pushes it to a sense where
Speaker 3: they run it back with the offense.
Speaker 1: But again, who knows.
Speaker 2: Ah, Yeah, I don't know. The Other part of this
Speaker 2: is the Jets are still looking, as of the hiring
Speaker 2: of Glenn look for a general manager, which is sort
Speaker 2: of weird that you're hiring the coach before the GM,
Speaker 2: because now you know, ideally you find a general manager
Speaker 2: and your head coach, your your visions are aligned, you
Speaker 2: have an idea of how you want to move forward.
Speaker 2: Its just it seems like a backward process. But we're
Speaker 2: also talking about the Jets, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do think we've seen a change in
Speaker 3: the last like five or so years.
Speaker 1: Where it used to.
Speaker 3: Be hire the GM, the GM hires the coach. Now
Speaker 3: I feel like it's kind of the flip and the
Speaker 3: head coach is the most important. Were in higher for
Speaker 3: these teams, and they're like letting the coaches help them
Speaker 3: figure out who the GM is going to be. And
Speaker 3: it's worked out in some places and it has not
Speaker 3: in others.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the Jets.
Speaker 2: Will We will wait further instructions before we can kind
Speaker 2: of give you any further analysis we expect from the
Speaker 2: Jets this year. But I'm turning our attention now to
Speaker 2: the exit interviews as we continue a long picks thirteen
Speaker 2: through sixteen in the draft. At number thirteen, it's Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 2: who were eight and nine this past year. We went
Speaker 2: right Von Hense the fantastic season, followed up a great
Speaker 2: rookie year with an outstanding sophomore campaign nearly fifteen hundred
Speaker 2: scrimmage yards, seventy eight catches, twelve touchdowns, just shy of
Speaker 2: three hundred PPR points. There he was the RB five
Speaker 2: and as you may or may not know from listening
Speaker 2: to the show. John and Smith had a good year
Speaker 2: this year. Eightyhch is eight hundred and eighty four yards,
Speaker 2: eight touchdowns. He was the tight end four and for
Speaker 2: that reason, Kwan got to cosplay as Evil Alman Ross
Speaker 2: Saint Brown for a couple of days.
Speaker 1: Blonde, the blonde bandit, The blonde bandit, That's what it was. Uh,
Speaker 1: what went wrong?
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill an underwhelming season, less than one thousand yards,
Speaker 2: eighty one catches, nine hundred and fifty nine yards, six touchdowns,
Speaker 2: Wide receiver eighteen. For a lot of guys not named
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill. That's a pretty good year for him, a
Speaker 2: guy that was being drafted in the top five in
Speaker 2: some leagues.
Speaker 1: Not so much. Jalen Wattle even more frustrating.
Speaker 2: Fifty eight catches, seven hundred and forty four yards and
Speaker 2: two touchdowns, Wide receiver forty six.
Speaker 1: Florida.
Speaker 2: You obviously are in the same division. You watch a
Speaker 2: lot of these games. Have we soured on Mike McDaniel
Speaker 2: is has the Mike McDaniel experience hit its ceiling now?
Speaker 1: Not for me, I think, I mean.
Speaker 2: Only for you as a fan. Obviously, you want the
Speaker 2: Dolphins to keep being average.
Speaker 3: So yes, I think for real, like he has done
Speaker 3: a lot of beating up on bad teams, and his
Speaker 3: offense to have struggled against good teams.
Speaker 1: I think that's more.
Speaker 3: On Tua than on him. I think Tua is a
Speaker 3: very limited quarterback. I think when things are right, you
Speaker 3: can win with Tua and and when things are on script,
Speaker 3: he is amazing. But when his first read isn't there,
Speaker 3: or when there's pressure or anything goes not according to plan,
Speaker 3: and that is not on the coach after that point.
Speaker 3: The coach can only coach up to a certain point.
Speaker 3: After a certain point, it's on the player to improvise
Speaker 3: and make a play. And that's where Tua sense to
Speaker 3: lack a bit. But I think he's a good like
Speaker 3: I care about fantasy more than anything, and he is
Speaker 3: a good coach for fantasy.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 3: He had a top five tight end this year, a
Speaker 3: top five wide receiver. I know the I'm sorry, top
Speaker 3: five running back. I know the wide receivers disappointed, but
Speaker 3: for years they were both awesome for fantasy purposes, Tua
Speaker 3: was really good. So I think it's a situation where
Speaker 3: maybe some retooling it got a little stale. This year,
Speaker 3: you need to retool a little bit. But I still
Speaker 3: think Mike McDaniels is one of the better offensive minded
Speaker 3: coaches in the NFL, and if the Dolphins were to
Speaker 3: let him go, I think another team picks him up
Speaker 3: pretty quickly because of the success that he has had.
Speaker 3: And this year, more than anything, was like Toua wasn't available,
Speaker 3: and that's not on him.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 3: They didn't play well with backup quarterbacks, but take the
Speaker 3: starting quarterback away from most teams and their seasons over
Speaker 3: right then and there.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you this one. Lakwan
Speaker 2: tu a sung of Iiloa or Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: Funny, I'm taking two. I'll take two of it. When
Speaker 1: he's hurt over Trevor Lawrence. Wow, do you have hating
Speaker 1: your heart? Let it out like I just.
Speaker 2: Because I mean, I asked you that because I know
Speaker 2: I know how you feel about Trevor Lawrence, and I
Speaker 2: guess I sort of wanted to get how you feel
Speaker 2: about Tua and that tells me a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, like Florio explained, like his lack of as
Speaker 1: you know, his quarterback struggles when he doesn't have his
Speaker 1: first raid and et cetera, et cetera. It's more so
Speaker 1: of the health, Like it's more so is he going
Speaker 1: to be available for this team? And that again does
Speaker 1: not fall on Mike mcdaime. That doesn't even fall on
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. And I understand Tyreek's frustration. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: he had a down season. I mean it's his first
Speaker 1: season with less than seventeen hundred yards. That sounds insane,
Speaker 1: like that's his first season with the Miami Dolphins, I
Speaker 1: mean with less than seventeen hundred yards. But you get
Speaker 1: his frustration of just having a quarterback available for him
Speaker 1: so this team can win, so this team can be
Speaker 1: competitive within that division, because I would hate to be
Speaker 1: to Miami Dolphins with all this talent, all these tools,
Speaker 1: and you're on the kind of same part of the
Speaker 1: circus with the Jets, and you're watching the Bills go
Speaker 1: out there and dominate, Like it's sad to see in
Speaker 1: its frustrations, But like Mike Florio said, it, it's more
Speaker 1: so of like you had a top five tight end,
Speaker 1: a top five running back, get your quarterback on the
Speaker 1: field healthy, and just execute the plan like doing these
Speaker 1: last couple of seasons.
Speaker 2: Do we believe Floria that Tyreek really wants out of
Speaker 2: Miami because remember, like it was like a how is that?
Speaker 2: You know, how it started? How it's going sort of thing.
Speaker 2: I get started, He's just like, I love it here,
Speaker 2: My family loves it here.
Speaker 1: I don't ever want to leave.
Speaker 2: By the end of the year, He's like, I can't
Speaker 2: be here no more. I gotta be out. Like do
Speaker 2: we really think that's gonna happen? Or was this just
Speaker 2: like a frustration heat of the moment sort of thing.
Speaker 3: I think it's more that. I think it's more frustration
Speaker 3: from and it was remember how this year started for
Speaker 3: Tyreek and the Dolphins, and like he wasn't fully healthy
Speaker 3: and stuff, and then like Tua gets hurt in week two,
Speaker 3: like and misses six weeks at that point, so like
Speaker 3: their season was pretty much over before it started. They
Speaker 3: had to like scratch and claw their way out of it.
Speaker 3: And uh, I think because of where he is in
Speaker 3: his career, Tyrek is going to push to want to
Speaker 3: go somewhere else because he has what maybe another two
Speaker 3: years at playing at an elite status.
Speaker 1: One thing I haven't heard anyone.
Speaker 3: Talk about is like, what this year the start of
Speaker 3: a decline for Tyree Hill because speed players fall off
Speaker 3: a cliff in this league. So because of the money
Speaker 3: he's owed and because of his skill set in his age,
Speaker 3: I think most likely scenario is that he is back,
Speaker 3: but I would not be surprised at all if he's pushing, like,
Speaker 3: put me on a contender, Put me on a contender.
Speaker 3: And I've already seen him photoshopped in like four different
Speaker 3: teams jerseys in this offseason, So that's gonna happen either way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to your point, he will be thirty one by
Speaker 2: this time next season starts turns thirty one on March first,
Speaker 2: So you are starting to get to the age cliff
Speaker 2: for wide receivers. Maybe not as dramatic as it is
Speaker 2: for running backs, but it does exist. And as you're
Speaker 2: to your point, when speed is a big part of
Speaker 2: your game, when that starts to go, it starts to
Speaker 2: become a little more difficult to continue to perform at
Speaker 2: the same level that you have been previously.
Speaker 1: Where do you guys gauge drafting him though, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: is he still a first round.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still a first round pick to me. At
Speaker 2: the worst, he's early second round. Like, yeah, he's not
Speaker 2: gonna last much into the second round.
Speaker 1: Oh my mock. I got him at two oh six,
Speaker 1: so that's actually a little further down it. But let's
Speaker 1: played a game real quick. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: As soon as I said it, I started thinking, I'm like, well, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because you got Luco, I got Nico in front of him,
Speaker 1: I got aj Brown in front of him, and then
Speaker 1: I got a Monra and Brian Thomas Jr. Out of
Speaker 1: those groups, are you gonna take Tyreek over those guys?
Speaker 2: Nico is the one to me that I don't know, Like,
Speaker 2: obviously he was fantastic this year, he just seems volatile,
Speaker 2: Like I just don't know if if he continues to
Speaker 2: perform at that level. Because we talked earlier, we talked
Speaker 2: on Tuesday about how late in the season he sort
Speaker 2: of fell off and how he's sort of tied to CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud for the near future.
Speaker 2: I'm who knows what else happens when that wide receiver
Speaker 2: room in Houston, Like, I see the ceiling for Nico Collins,
Speaker 2: but I also think the floor is maybe a little
Speaker 2: more unstable than we wanted to be.
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas was the name that I was like, I
Speaker 3: can I could be convinced to go either way here.
Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, he's another one.
Speaker 2: I know I fired off the Brian Thomas is a
Speaker 2: first round pick, like right after the season started. But
Speaker 2: that's another one where you know, I sat down and
Speaker 2: I had a good night's sleep and a cup of
Speaker 2: coffee and I'm like, all right, lady, let's let's rethink
Speaker 2: that idea.
Speaker 1: No, but the fantasy stres are with you though, Like
Speaker 1: I've seen this multiple times that people were like skyrocking
Speaker 1: him to the first round. I can't pull the trigger personally,
Speaker 1: but he's definitely in that early second round ballpark.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, early second round feels a little more comfortable
Speaker 2: to me now, Like.
Speaker 1: Immediately I was like, yeah, first round. Then I'm like, uh.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, hold on, let's let's reevaluate things. And
Speaker 2: then yeah, so that's kind of where I am right now.
Speaker 2: So all right, so Tyreek then maybe second round pick?
Speaker 2: Well interesting, Yeah, well that's not to workshop that as
Speaker 2: we as we keep going this offseason. For sure, it
Speaker 2: was weird, like it feels nasty though it didn't feel right.
Speaker 2: You guys were getting start and say questions in your
Speaker 2: DMS about if you're going to start Tyreek Hill, Like,
Speaker 2: I think once we hit that point with a player,
Speaker 2: it's kind of like I can't take this first round investment,
Speaker 2: Like he's off the border the first round.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. All right, let's move on.
Speaker 2: The number fourteen pick goes to the Indianapolis Colts. They
Speaker 2: were also eight and nine this year. Jonathan Taylor was
Speaker 2: fantastic as usual, fifteen hundred and sixty seven scrimmag yards,
Speaker 2: twelve touchdowns. He was the RB twelve. Josh Downs had
Speaker 2: something of a breakout season, maybe not a full breakout,
Speaker 2: but the beginnings of one seventy two catches, eight hundred
Speaker 2: and three yards, five touchdowns, So where it went wrong.
Speaker 2: We were very excited about Anthony Richardson. We had a
Speaker 2: small sample size his rookie year, but it was enough
Speaker 2: to wet the appetite and get us all fired up
Speaker 2: about what could be this year. We were all like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this guy has top five upside. There were even people
Speaker 2: who were going so far as to say he could
Speaker 2: be the QB one overall.
Speaker 1: He was the QB twenty five.
Speaker 2: Yes, that being said, Lakwan, how are you approaching Anthony
Speaker 2: Richardson in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1: Very cautiously. And I say that because it's like, if
Speaker 1: I'm in leagues where I have to draft two quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: he will be my second quarterback. Because you do believe
Speaker 1: that there was a night and day change once he
Speaker 1: got bent and then he got back into the game.
Speaker 1: They started playing into his strends and more design runs,
Speaker 1: Like if he keeps on running, he gets more fantasy points.
Speaker 1: Like I think it's that easy and simple to play
Speaker 1: to his strengths and kind of keep the weapons around,
Speaker 1: like hit this draft, get moral line, get another tight end,
Speaker 1: Like there's some needs for this team, and like you
Speaker 1: look at the wide receivers and you got to really
Speaker 1: honestly look at like Anthony Richson, who is he going
Speaker 1: to be his wide receiver one? And like that needs
Speaker 1: to be, you know, in stone so he can hyper
Speaker 1: focus on how to keep this offense moving, how to
Speaker 1: keep the chains going, how to convert the third down,
Speaker 1: be a red zone threat. That what he is because
Speaker 1: in that small sample size last season, we saw what
Speaker 1: was it, like seven touchdowns in like two and a
Speaker 1: half games that could be on par And that's why
Speaker 1: we were so hyped for him to be a QB
Speaker 1: one because it's in him. It's there. It's just more
Speaker 1: so of like, is the coaching staff going to play
Speaker 1: to his strems and not trying to make him fit
Speaker 1: into an offense that they envision and just play what
Speaker 1: Anthony Richid can do.
Speaker 2: So then if we if we go to that idea
Speaker 2: and I know Florida, we were all excited about the
Speaker 2: rushing ability to touchdown upside. Lakwan mentioned they need to
Speaker 2: find a wide receiver. One we thought it was Michael
Speaker 2: Pittman Junior. He finishes the wide receiver forty one. It was,
Speaker 2: It wasn't great, And so I just I look at
Speaker 2: it as if they decide to play to Richardson strengths, right,
Speaker 2: if they create more design runs, if they create more
Speaker 2: easy throws, does this mean we're out on Colts wide
Speaker 2: receivers then for me, yeah.
Speaker 3: It's very weird because as excited as we all are
Speaker 3: for Anthony Richardson for fantasy purposes, in the upside that
Speaker 3: he brings, I would say, as of right now in
Speaker 3: his career, he is a net negative to every other
Speaker 3: Colts offensive player for fantasy purposes because Michael Pittman Junior,
Speaker 3: like he was not a top forty wide receiver this year,
Speaker 3: he was the wide receiver thirteen. Last year in the
Speaker 3: wide receiver fourteen in points per game. Like, this is
Speaker 3: a guy who prior to this year three years in
Speaker 3: a row being a top twenty wide receiver. And look
Speaker 3: at the quarterbacks, it was like Gardner, Minshew and other retreads.
Speaker 3: He was productive with those guys. So I don't think
Speaker 3: this is a wide receiver issue. I don't think Michael like, yes,
Speaker 3: he was playing hurt through the back injury, all of that.
Speaker 3: Josh Downs looks good at times, Alec Pierce looked good
Speaker 3: at times, Like I don't think this wide receiver room
Speaker 3: is one of the best in the leagues or anything
Speaker 3: like that, but there's some talent there.
Speaker 1: And Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 3: You look at his game log, like pass numbers were
Speaker 3: never really great. The completion percentage at times was below
Speaker 3: forty percent. And I say this as someone who is
Speaker 3: very much so rooting for Anti Richardson and wants him
Speaker 3: to be awesome. What also stood out to me was
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor had less I believe it was less than
Speaker 3: twenty catches last season. Like, it's just not it's a
Speaker 3: style of play that is good for him for fantasy purposes,
Speaker 3: and yeah, eighteen catches for Jonathan Taylor last year and
Speaker 3: like career low, So yeah, I think it's he could
Speaker 3: be really good for fantasy. Everyone else, I'm I'm not
Speaker 3: interested in drafting. And but to Laquan's point, like, if
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson gets drafted as a QB two, I'm going
Speaker 3: to take him on so many of my teams because
Speaker 3: the upside is just as high as we thought it
Speaker 3: was last year. You're just getting him at a much
Speaker 3: bigger discount and we know the risk now even more
Speaker 3: than we did last season. So if you got to
Speaker 3: take him as your first QB, I'm out. If you
Speaker 3: could get him as your QB two, Like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: all on board with that.
Speaker 2: I'm I am going to be curious about what the
Speaker 2: general can say is gonna be on Anthony Richardson this offseason.
Speaker 2: Here's my other fear with him and Shane Steichen, as
Speaker 2: far as we know, still gonna be the head coach
Speaker 2: when they fired up in Week one next season. The
Speaker 2: way he handled his quarterback situation was about as poorly
Speaker 2: as you could have done it right. Yes, just randomly
Speaker 2: benching Anthony Richardson bringing in Joe Flacco. Flacco stinks it
Speaker 2: up for a couple of weeks, they go back to Richardson,
Speaker 2: I mean, and just the way he sort of handled
Speaker 2: it publicly, everything about it was bad. But it also
Speaker 2: says to me that they don't have supreme confidence in Richardson.
Speaker 2: Whether that's a head coach thing, a general manager thing,
Speaker 2: and ownership thing. You just wonder, is this guy gonna
Speaker 2: be looking over his shoulder for the next time he
Speaker 2: makes a mistake or next time he has a bad game?
Speaker 2: Are we going to lose Anthony Richardson as a starter again?
Speaker 2: Some of that might have to do with whoever the
Speaker 2: backup's going to be in Indianapolis this year, but that
Speaker 2: makes me heat to lean on this guy as a
Speaker 2: QB one if he's always going to be on a
Speaker 2: short leash. Like all the upside, all the talent in
Speaker 2: the world can be there, but right now, the way
Speaker 2: things are going, his ceiling is justin fields. I don't
Speaker 2: even know if it's that at the moment, I guess
Speaker 2: I guess what. Everything's going well, sure, but now we
Speaker 2: are relying on him to be an above average runner
Speaker 2: at quarterback and hoping he can be at least competent
Speaker 2: as a passer, which so far he hasn't shown us
Speaker 2: he can be. And that's a little bit too much
Speaker 2: risk for me to make him a QB one. But
Speaker 2: as we know, people get stars in their eyes when
Speaker 2: they see talent and they see rushing ability and they
Speaker 2: see that upside and and all it takes is one
Speaker 2: or two people to start kind of a bidding war
Speaker 2: for Anthony Richardson and start pulling that adp up and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, the price is maybe not
Speaker 2: where we want it to be. So I am I'm curious,
Speaker 2: Like right now, I'm very much out on him as
Speaker 2: a QB one, and I'm willing to just eat it
Speaker 2: if he somehow makes the leap that everybody hopes. But
Speaker 2: I can't, I can't. I can't buy in this year.
Speaker 2: There's just there's there's too much development that still needs
Speaker 2: to happen for me to buy in. And sadly, sadly,
Speaker 2: it's gonna it's going to impact everybody. Like now I'm
Speaker 2: staying away from Michael Pittman. I guess maybe I'm later
Speaker 2: rounds on Josh Downs. I'm you know, even Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 2: comes with some question marks, because if Richardson is running
Speaker 2: and he's scoring those goal line touchdowns, that's taking food
Speaker 2: off of Jonathan Taylor's play. Like the Colts right now
Speaker 2: are very much a mystery box to me that I
Speaker 2: don't really want to.
Speaker 1: Touch boats a boat.
Speaker 3: To your point about them benching him, which again I
Speaker 3: agree was very dumb and was very vocal on it,
Speaker 3: but they did it last year in year two, So
Speaker 3: like that is even more like if he comes out
Speaker 3: in year three and looks exactly how he did last year,
Speaker 3: they might pull the plug even quicker, and then they
Speaker 3: might not go back to him like a lot of
Speaker 3: the times in this league, when you get benched, you
Speaker 3: don't you don't get to come back and start again.
Speaker 3: So it's it's even more risk adding on to him
Speaker 3: than last season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just sucks for the wide receivers though, you know,
Speaker 1: like you like Josh downs, you know, for PPR purposes.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, what are you supposed to do with
Speaker 1: this project in the quarterback position? And like Dynasty folks,
Speaker 1: I know they're pulling their hair out trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what to do with their past catchers. Like I'm
Speaker 1: not interested in it because when you look at the
Speaker 1: numbers last year with these wide receivers, Alex Pierce led
Speaker 1: them in the yards, Josh Down led them in catches,
Speaker 1: and Pittman led them in targets. They all three of
Speaker 1: these guys had over eight hundred yards. What are you
Speaker 1: supposed to do with this when you try to figure
Speaker 1: out who let them in yards? Huh? Who let them
Speaker 1: in the yards? Alec Pearce, I think I realize that
Speaker 1: until right now.
Speaker 3: You guys, remember like week three, I was like, I
Speaker 3: think Alec Pierce might lead this team in I should
Speaker 3: have humble bragged that.
Speaker 1: I thought, I'm sure. I pasked him. I mean that
Speaker 1: minds you?
Speaker 2: Mind you twenty one yards separated, all three of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's real nasty, Like that's why I'm like, you
Speaker 1: came and an attached Like if you do go Anthony
Speaker 1: Richardson at QB two, you can't attach them to any
Speaker 1: of the wide receivers either, because it's not going to
Speaker 1: be consistent. You're constantly going to be thinking like do
Speaker 1: I start Pittman this week? Do I start Downs this week?
Speaker 1: Do I start piercing this league? Like it's going to
Speaker 1: be real discussing nasty work. So it's a full fade.
Speaker 2: It's just it's they're all three in a situation where
Speaker 2: they're too good to just completely ignore and leave alone.
Speaker 2: But they're not good enough that you feel great about
Speaker 2: starting them every week Like that is the worst.
Speaker 1: They're most likely going to pop off on your bench.
Speaker 1: Those are the worst type of players where you are
Speaker 1: sitting there contemplating can I start them this week? And
Speaker 1: then you don't and they put up like twenty. Then
Speaker 1: the next week you start them, they put up three,
Speaker 1: and it's like, know what, I'm done? Like that's when
Speaker 1: gets me all riled up and want to toss my
Speaker 1: phone off the balcony.
Speaker 2: Our pal hyphen Colion likes to talk about players as
Speaker 2: being oatmeal, like they're just good enough, Like they're not great,
Speaker 2: Like the Colts wide receivers are oatmeal without like the
Speaker 2: cinnamon and sugar and like, oh god, the raisins and stuff.
Speaker 2: It's just it's just we just we just pulled it
Speaker 2: out of the pot, threw it in a bowl and
Speaker 2: gave it to you like that's it prison food. That
Speaker 2: really kind of Colts wide receivers are prison food. It
Speaker 2: feels that way, right, he got them so you can survive.
Speaker 2: That's it, man, It's just survival, right. We're not We're
Speaker 2: not enjoying our meal. We just need we just need
Speaker 2: calories and nutrients. Wow, that's it, all right, We'll take
Speaker 2: a break, come back. We got more exit interviews to
Speaker 2: dive into. Plus we will take a look at the
Speaker 2: championship games for this weekend. That's coming up next on
Speaker 2: the NFL Fantasy Football Show, continuing along with the exit interviews.
Speaker 2: The fifteenth pick in the draft belongs to the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 2: They like the Dolphins and Colts were eight and nine.
Speaker 1: What went right?
Speaker 2: B Joan Robinson another great year for him, nearly nineteen
Speaker 2: hundred strimming yards, sixty one catches, fifteen touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He was the RB. Three.
Speaker 2: Drake London had one hundred catch season over twelve hundred
Speaker 2: yards and nine touchdowns. He was the wide receiver five.
Speaker 2: Darnell Mooney, who I think shocked the world a little bit,
Speaker 2: especially early in the season when he really was starting
Speaker 2: to break out. But sixty four catches, nine hundred and
Speaker 2: ninety two yards, five touchdowns, Wide receiver thirty one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know that doesn't necessarily blow you away, but it's
Speaker 2: Darnell Mooney blows me away, who had no expectations of
Speaker 2: that whatsoever?
Speaker 1: What went wrong?
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins did not look great in his return from
Speaker 2: the Achilles injury. Just looked like he was a statue,
Speaker 2: even more of a statue into the pocket he was.
Speaker 2: The QB twenty three eventually gave way to Michael Pennox
Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts tight end fifteen. Like I saw tiny fisty.
Speaker 1: I'm like he was that.
Speaker 2: High, Like he had forty seven catches, six hundred and
Speaker 2: two yards and four touchdowns a tight end fifteen. So
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you, Florio, because I know we have
Speaker 2: all You and I have waived the flag. We have
Speaker 2: carried the banner for him for a long time, but
Speaker 2: really no one more than you, to the point that
Speaker 2: it's become a running bit on Fantasy Live.
Speaker 1: Are you officially letting the rope on Kyle Pitts? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I uh.
Speaker 3: I did so in the middle of this season, after
Speaker 3: I started including Kyle Pitts as a weekly sit just
Speaker 3: to be like, hey, justin reminder everyone, like where's there,
Speaker 3: like this this is not happening, and you pull up
Speaker 3: his game logs like it happened in the most frustrating
Speaker 3: way possible. Because even before I said all of that,
Speaker 3: I went on Fantasy Live and I was like, the
Speaker 3: breakout has happened. Ninety one yards, four catches to touchdowns.
Speaker 3: He had twenty five points against the Bucks.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: This was in late October. I was like, look, he's
Speaker 3: been on a hot streak as of late. He is,
Speaker 3: this is who he is, this is who he wanted
Speaker 3: him to be.
Speaker 1: All of that. He topped fifty yards one time from
Speaker 1: that point on. Uh.
Speaker 3: He he had one, two, three, four, five, six games
Speaker 3: with fewer than twenty yards in that stretch. So yeah,
Speaker 3: like he fell behind Darnol Mooney in the pecking order.
Speaker 3: Cardeneral Hodge was ahead of him in certain games. You
Speaker 3: got the running backs they're getting right Like it's and
Speaker 3: I know it's gonna happen. The whole fantasy community is
Speaker 3: gonna be out on Kyle Pitts and then people are
Speaker 3: gonna start hyping him up as a late round sleeper.
Speaker 3: And look if maybe I get sucked into that and
Speaker 3: they thrown him in some best balls or whatever, but
Speaker 3: that's all he can be. Like if he gets pulled
Speaker 3: up any higher than that, I might surprise you guys.
Speaker 3: As the Bills fan on this show, I think Dalton
Speaker 3: Kinkaid also belongs in that similar group. Like all hype,
Speaker 3: we have not seen it yet translate to production on
Speaker 3: the field, So until we do. My biggest takeaway from
Speaker 3: the season, guys is I'm not going to start pushing
Speaker 3: up tight ends like I did in the past few
Speaker 3: years with those two tight ends, thinking they could be
Speaker 3: elite until we see them do it, because I've been
Speaker 3: burned far too many times thinking Okay, this player has
Speaker 3: the talent, he's going to take that next step, and
Speaker 3: then it just has not happened.
Speaker 2: I know we're still little way away from talking about
Speaker 2: the Bills in their offseason, but like when you said
Speaker 2: daltinkin Kaid, in my head, I was just like, but
Speaker 2: I could. And I was immediately like, Oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna Kyle pitts him. I'm going to come up
Speaker 2: with excuses for why it hasn't happened and why it's
Speaker 2: going to be better this year. Like literally you were
Speaker 2: saying that, it's like, but Duncan kid, you can say
Speaker 2: that he went through the and they had this gid
Speaker 2: and then I was just like, Oh my goodness, I'm
Speaker 2: really gonna do this again.
Speaker 1: With another player.
Speaker 2: I reserve the right to still do it with Dalton Kinkaid,
Speaker 2: but you know, maybe maybe it'll later time.
Speaker 3: For sure, Look if Egles as a late tight end
Speaker 3: one sure, but like Titan five six, I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't keep doing that. I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I don't see that happening at all with him, for sure.
Speaker 2: We're talking about Kirk Cousins and the fact that he
Speaker 2: gave way to Michael Pinnox, which means it's time to
Speaker 2: see who will deliver. Presented by Uber eats Lakwan again.
Speaker 2: Michael PINNOCKX finished as a top twelve quarterback next season.
Speaker 1: That's juicy, man. I mean, very very small sample size,
Speaker 1: top twelve, maybe at twelve. I'll give him that. Maybe
Speaker 1: right outside that you're just hopeful and excited to draft
Speaker 1: these skilled players at the Falcons guy. I mean you
Speaker 1: like the small samples that he saw he can move
Speaker 1: around in the pocket. I mean Kirk Cousins, he was
Speaker 1: looking like he had life alert, you know, ready on call.
Speaker 1: He could not move around, So you're just hopeful for
Speaker 1: the upside that he can go out there and execute.
Speaker 1: The one thing you did like though, he was making
Speaker 1: quicker decisions in the pocket than Kirk, Like Kurt was
Speaker 1: just holding on to the ball too much and he
Speaker 1: can't move. So there's a couple of games that if
Speaker 1: you watch, you know that Pennix was playing. It's the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers one that I watched back yesterday, and it's
Speaker 1: like he's moving out of pocket so fluent, and he
Speaker 1: knows where his guys are. So you're just hopeful for
Speaker 1: that upside that he could deliver, and you know he
Speaker 1: can air it out. I mean, that's all he was
Speaker 1: doing in college. He just wanted to go downfield. And
Speaker 1: you look for guys like Darnel Moody that are going
Speaker 1: to be cheap this season. That's going to be everywhere
Speaker 1: on my roster, by the way. So I think Pennix
Speaker 1: has the ability to deliver to the players that we
Speaker 1: care about on off keep Jon in the red zone,
Speaker 1: keep Darnol Mooney down threat, and keep Drake London just
Speaker 1: as alpha wide receiver that he's shown that he could
Speaker 1: be this season. So I'm all in for him delivering
Speaker 1: this season.
Speaker 2: So top twelve right and in no particular order, Josh Allen,
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, Joe Burrow, Jaden Daniels. What is
Speaker 2: that that's six right there? Let's put in the top twelve.
Speaker 2: Let's put let's let's put both knicks in the top twelve.
Speaker 2: Right Holmes, I'm taking Moth Mahomes. I mean, we can
Speaker 2: still put golf in there, like forget the postseason, regular
Speaker 2: regular season, Jared Goff.
Speaker 1: We can do that, I want.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I need to make sure I got permission
Speaker 2: from from La Kwan before we did that, Jared Goof.
Speaker 2: But I mean, so we're looking at three, four, five, six, seven,
Speaker 2: eight nine with Mahomes.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't see him fitting because there's other guys.
Speaker 2: Herbo justin Herbert he is in there, Kyler, Kyler's in there.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Caleb now with Ben Johnson there
Speaker 2: makes a strong push to Dak Dak.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's anywhere even close to top twelve.
Speaker 1: He's outside of it. Like I would say, you right outside.
Speaker 1: I'll take Drake May over him. I'll take see that
Speaker 1: that I will probably push back on because we just
Speaker 1: talked about how that offense isn't exciting. The pieces are
Speaker 1: better for Pennix. Yes, the pieces are better in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: for sure. I think May is the better player, But
Speaker 1: is he going to be in scoring opportunities? You can
Speaker 1: run more, that's for sure too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get that rushing up sidea Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: gonna be an interesting argument. I think this offseason Pennicks
Speaker 2: may Penundrum. We can we can definitely check back in.
Speaker 3: Oh, Brock Purdy, I'm taking over him, probably taking Jordan
Speaker 3: Love over him.
Speaker 2: All right, okay, okay, look on because you talked about
Speaker 2: two or two or Pinnix.
Speaker 1: Oh, they're both very similar. I'll take I'll take. Let's
Speaker 1: let's injury.
Speaker 3: What about your boy, Bryce Young, Joe, I'm saying.
Speaker 1: O, Bryce Young, here's one for you guys. C J. Stroud, No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm good.
Speaker 2: I think I may take Pinis because the weapons, the
Speaker 2: weapons are similar.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, healthier. Yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just you said that.
Speaker 2: But Pinix had a couple of major injuries in college too, though,
Speaker 2: so he just didn't get hurt in the NFL.
Speaker 1: The more we talk about it, the more I'm like,
Speaker 1: QB feels thinner than ever. Yeah, it's weird, Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 3: Because like we're going to dive into this, you guys,
Speaker 3: like I know we're gonna do a whole episode on
Speaker 3: it or something like that, but like as awesome as
Speaker 3: like Baker was, or like Jared Goff or Herbert what Purty,
Speaker 3: even like I don't feel one hundred confident like this
Speaker 3: is my starter every single week.
Speaker 1: Why I think I'm taking a top five quarterback next year.
Speaker 2: It's starting to be like a lot of other Like
Speaker 2: you see it at running back, you definitely see it
Speaker 2: at tight end where the guys at the top are
Speaker 2: so much better, where you have a clear group of
Speaker 2: elites at the top, and then you start getting in
Speaker 2: that second or third tier and it becomes a little
Speaker 2: more interchangeable. And I think that's where we are with quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: where you've got your big four, big five, what or
Speaker 2: however you want to slice it up, and then after
Speaker 2: that it's like right when I were playing Mix and
Speaker 2: Match weekly, and that's sort of what it is.
Speaker 1: I think Jayden Daniels will be pulled up for sure
Speaker 1: here in August, so it's like absolutely, I'll pay. I'll
Speaker 1: pay for him in the first three rounds. I mean
Speaker 1: I'll do that in the third round with the Josh
Speaker 1: Allens and the Lamar Jackson's or whatever the case may be,
Speaker 1: whichever one is cheapest for me, that's who I'll have
Speaker 1: the most. Though here you go, I just realized that
Speaker 1: that's the way we have to approach the season because.
Speaker 3: It might be Jalen Hurts that ends up being the
Speaker 3: cheapest of the top five, because I feel like everyone
Speaker 3: hates Jalen Hurts and just like.
Speaker 2: I'm just so inconsistent, you know, like that's just what
Speaker 2: it is. And like if the tush push ever goes away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which it's not, why would it, I mean, why.
Speaker 2: You're right, except they've got a monster behind him in
Speaker 2: the backfield that could take away that. I mean, we
Speaker 2: keep saying that with Josh Allen too, like they're gonna
Speaker 2: stop using him as their goal line back. And then
Speaker 2: Josh is like he's like the meme of Ralph William
Speaker 2: crashing through the window, just.
Speaker 3: Like using Mark Andrews Man Like this toos push play
Speaker 3: is not going away.
Speaker 1: Like it's true, it's just the beginning. It's just the beginning.
Speaker 3: But my fear is more teams doing that having a
Speaker 3: non quarterback running.
Speaker 1: That's the worst.
Speaker 2: Actually, the tastes of no effect, you know, and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, everybody's really mad about things for sure. Uh.
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Speaker 2: NFL Order. Now, before we switch over to the Cardinals,
Speaker 2: I do have one last thing on the Falcons because
Speaker 2: you guys know, my thing this year is I don't
Speaker 2: want to draft Saquon Barkley in the first round. That's
Speaker 2: my hottest hot take so far this offseason. Bejeon to
Speaker 2: my RB one. That's my proclamation.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's stamp it in January.
Speaker 3: I think he's the RB one, and as well, Marcus.
Speaker 3: I think his only competition is Jamier Gibbs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still think.
Speaker 2: I just think even as good as Jamior Gibbs is,
Speaker 2: I think the presidence of David Montgomery makes that a
Speaker 2: little hard.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not that not that he's bad or anything like that.
Speaker 2: Just David Montgomery still draws breath on this planet and
Speaker 2: gets a paycheck from the Detroit Lions, and that's going
Speaker 2: to make things difficult there.
Speaker 1: It is pick number.
Speaker 2: Sixteen, Beloves in the Arizona Cardinals. They were also eight
Speaker 2: and nine. What went right train McBride one hundred and
Speaker 2: eleven catches over eleven hundred scrimmage ar or eleven hundred
Speaker 2: receiving yards I should say two whole touchdowns. We had
Speaker 2: to wait pretty much all year for that to happen,
Speaker 2: but it happened. I got those two touchdowns. He was
Speaker 2: the tight end to James Connor. Continues to be underrated.
Speaker 2: He's one of those guys that I think we take
Speaker 2: for granted. Fifteen hundred scrimmage yards, nine touchdowns, forty seven catches.
Speaker 2: He was the RB eleven. I think I said this before,
Speaker 2: I have Trey McBride as my tight end one. I
Speaker 2: think I think he finishes as the tight end one
Speaker 2: next year. There's a pretty compact race between Bowers and
Speaker 2: McBride and George Kittle. You know, I think Bowers continues
Speaker 2: to be okay. He doesn't have a Sam Laporter like
Speaker 2: fall off. I'm stamping Trey McBride is the guy who'd
Speaker 2: finish as the tight end one. I may not be
Speaker 2: able to draft him depending on where his ADP is,
Speaker 2: but I think he's the guy. I think he's the
Speaker 2: guy who finishes as the top tight end.
Speaker 1: It's him or Bowers. Yeah, I think so. Jonah Smith,
Speaker 1: Jonah Smith, No, I'm not going to do that here.
Speaker 3: No are dolphins Dolphin's green if.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get no, get that seal going nah Man. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna be a good look for you.
Speaker 1: I don't think so what went wrong?
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, who's a lot of people's picked to click
Speaker 2: this year. Thirty eight hundred passing yards, twenty one touchdowns,
Speaker 2: eleven interceptions, five hundred and seventy two rushing yards, five tds.
Speaker 2: He was a QB ten, which again that's another one
Speaker 2: that I was like, really used QB ten Like it
Speaker 2: just didn't feel it didn't feel like that.
Speaker 1: But it was back to our points, yeah, back right now.
Speaker 1: Its just it didn't feel that way.
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison, who was in the running for maybe Bust
Speaker 2: of the Year candidates, sixty two catches, eight hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty five yards, eight touchdowns, wide receiver thirty and then
Speaker 2: one that is just personal to this show. Greg Dors
Speaker 2: didn't work guys, So like you were you were spot
Speaker 2: on with John who you were way off like Greg Dorts.
Speaker 4: I hate the Cardinals for this, Like I really look
Speaker 4: at the bad organization for this because you watch him
Speaker 4: play and like I get so fussed watching him make
Speaker 4: the plays that he makes and he's done it in
Speaker 4: the past, and it's like, why are you not putting
Speaker 4: him on the field.
Speaker 1: Like I understand you guys don't run wide receiver like
Speaker 1: three wide receiver sets all the time. But then you
Speaker 1: look at his production when he is given the opportunity,
Speaker 1: a higher target bur route rate than Michael Wilson, he
Speaker 1: has more touchdowns than Trey McBride, Yes, Trey McBride. That
Speaker 1: sounds crazy, and it's like, how does this happen? Why
Speaker 1: is he not on the field. And it's like he
Speaker 1: had a higher separation rate than Michael Wilson, So he's
Speaker 1: obviously earning the targets getting open for Kyler Murray and
Speaker 1: they have the chemistry together. Why is he not on
Speaker 1: the field.
Speaker 2: So I'll ask you this, Then two two out well
Speaker 2: that hit free agency. Would you mind if the Rams
Speaker 2: moved on from two two and maybe signed free agent
Speaker 2: Greg Dortch in the offseason.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's spent some time with us and passed
Speaker 1: for a little whit don drafted freident Dry wouldn't mind that.
Speaker 1: Actually the quin is doing those supervillain hand rub right.
Speaker 3: Now, give him those ninety Wandell Robinson catches. I bet
Speaker 3: you he turns into more than six hundred yards.
Speaker 1: And he had the volume that ydo head, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: he'll be a top ten wide receiver. I believe that
Speaker 1: one hundred percent if he had the volume.
Speaker 2: But if he has the volume that Wandale Robinson had,
Speaker 2: something's gone wrong in the Rams offense.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, something has gone wrong in so Floria.
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior was how do I put this? Was
Speaker 2: he a bust that he underperformed? Or was he a
Speaker 2: victim of our lofty expectations?
Speaker 1: Yes? I think it was. I think it's all three because.
Speaker 3: It wasn't just us fantasy people hyping this guy up
Speaker 3: as the best wide receiver of a generation and everything,
Speaker 3: and he wasn't even a top two wide receiver in
Speaker 3: his class as a rookie. And it wasn't just stats wise,
Speaker 3: Like go watch Marvin Harrison Junior's tape, Go watch the
Speaker 3: league neighbors, Go watch Lad McConkie, Go watch Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 3: You might rank Marvin Harrison, fourth of that bunch, just
Speaker 3: watching what they did this year. But I also don't
Speaker 3: think it's all on him. Kyler Murray, outside of that
Speaker 3: one year with prime DeAndre Hopkins, has not really done
Speaker 3: a great job in his career of elevating wide receivers.
Speaker 3: And I was very bullish on Marvin Harrison Junior because
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, Kyler has that de hop type again,
Speaker 3: and at times you saw it.
Speaker 1: But like, let's go back to his biggest game of
Speaker 1: the year. I would think it was Week three against
Speaker 1: the Rams. It was two broken.
Speaker 3: Plays that he caught deep where he burned Trey White,
Speaker 3: who got burned in the last week as well. But
Speaker 3: like we hold that against Quinton Johnson, no one was
Speaker 3: saying a peep against it when it was Marvin Harrison junior,
Speaker 3: you know, so like I was, I think. But also
Speaker 3: it all always comes down to expectation. That's why Kyler
Speaker 3: Murray goes into What's Went Wrong two because he was
Speaker 3: being drafted as like QUB five, QB six, but as
Speaker 3: a whole, like this is a really solid rookie year
Speaker 3: for any wide receiver what Harrison did, But because of
Speaker 3: the expectations that we had for him and the expectations
Speaker 3: that the whole world had for him.
Speaker 1: It was probably a letdown.
Speaker 2: I mean, the thing that sticks with me is early
Speaker 2: in the season, Kyler Murray saying like it's not my
Speaker 2: job to get Marvin Harrison targets, and universally everybody like,
Speaker 2: that's exactly your job, Like that is that is number
Speaker 2: one in the job description to target the wide receivers,
Speaker 2: especially the high draft pick guys. I think we just
Speaker 2: have to understand at this point that that there's a
Speaker 2: ceiling on Kyler. Like like, I think we have seen
Speaker 2: the best of Kyler Murray, right, I think what we saw.
Speaker 1: Early in his career.
Speaker 2: You know that that twenty nineteen twenty twenty season, that
Speaker 2: twenty twenty season, right, he ran for over eight hundred yards.
Speaker 2: He hasn't come close to it since then. I think
Speaker 2: that was the year he also had a career high
Speaker 2: in passing yards, He had a career high and touchdown
Speaker 2: pas is. He just hasn't really come close to that.
Speaker 2: Some of it has been injuries, some of it's just
Speaker 2: that I just think we've seen the best of Kyler,
Speaker 2: and I think we just sort of have to adjust accordingly.
Speaker 2: When it comes to looking at the pass catchers, whether
Speaker 2: that's Harrison McBride, whoever else is going to be there, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know Florida, you loved Michael Wilson as
Speaker 2: a sleeper this year.
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about Greg Dortch.
Speaker 2: I just think that all these guys now we have
Speaker 2: to lower our expectations just because the quarterback is not
Speaker 2: going to deliver the ball the way that we want
Speaker 2: him to.
Speaker 3: To your point, I think this year really drove that
Speaker 3: point home because for years we were like, oh, it's
Speaker 3: Cliff Kingsbury's fault. Then the last two years Kyler wasn't healthy,
Speaker 3: didn't play a full year either year as he was
Speaker 3: rehabbing from the town acl and stuff.
Speaker 1: But this year he was fully healthy.
Speaker 3: Cliff Kingsbury got the most, the literally the greatest rookie
Speaker 3: season ever out of his quarterback and then the whole narrative,
Speaker 3: and this was something that was being driven in the
Speaker 3: middle of the year when the Anders had that two
Speaker 3: game skid, was like the late season slip off from
Speaker 3: click Cliff Cliff Cliff Kingsbury his offenses are out here
Speaker 3: doing their thing. Going to the NFC Championship Game, the
Speaker 3: Cardinals free falled and blew their division. Like at some point,
Speaker 3: this free fall that they go on yearly is on
Speaker 3: the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean it really truly is.
Speaker 3: And I want Kyler so badly to be good. I
Speaker 3: love short Kings, Yes, and.
Speaker 2: If we support them here, yeah no, I mean I
Speaker 2: just think Kyler is who he is now. I think
Speaker 2: I think after this past year because so many people
Speaker 2: were big on him and he was just mah like, don't.
Speaker 2: I don't see that same ground swallow support coming for
Speaker 2: Kyler this offseason at all.
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 2: We have fixed thirteen through sixteen in the books. Next
Speaker 2: week we will proceed with seventeen through twenty. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to do math in my head. Seventeen through twenties we'll
Speaker 2: have coming up next Tuesday. In the meantime, take another break,
Speaker 2: we'll come back and we will preview Championship Weekend. Should
Speaker 2: be a whole lot of fun. That's next on the
Speaker 2: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So there are four teams left,
Speaker 2: three games remaining left in this NFL season. Championship Weekend
Speaker 2: kicks off on Sunday. It begins on the NFC side
Speaker 2: with Washington at Philadelphia. These two teams split the regular
Speaker 2: season meetings, so here it is the rubber match, the
Speaker 2: deciding game, with the winner moving on to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Some of the side notes. I think I mentioned this
Speaker 2: on Tuesday Show. It's a matchup of former Cowboy coordinators,
Speaker 2: with Dan Quid as the head coach of the Commanders
Speaker 2: and Kellen Moore as the OC of the Eagles. Kwan
Speaker 2: sae Quon obviously a huge difference in that game last
Speaker 2: week against the Rams, A couple of long touchdown runs
Speaker 2: in that ballgame. He's been phenomenal all year long. Can
Speaker 2: the Commanders slow him down? And is that really the key?
Speaker 2: I mean, is stopping Barkley the key to winning that game?
Speaker 1: No, really, I don't think they could slow him down.
Speaker 1: You kind of just have to let him do his thing,
Speaker 1: but try to keep him out of the end zone.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, you know, I feel as though my
Speaker 1: ways as a Rams frand that we could have won
Speaker 1: that game without the weather. But it's like, I think
Speaker 1: we still could have won that game even with Saquon
Speaker 1: hitting two hundred. It's more so containing Jalen hurts, but
Speaker 1: we're worried about his health now. It's more so containing
Speaker 1: aj Brown. The Vonte Smith and Dallas godd are showing
Speaker 1: up on the back end of the season since returning
Speaker 1: back from the injury, being a reliable target as well.
Speaker 1: So they got many headaches to worry about to not
Speaker 1: just focus on Saquon Barklay. There's no stopping him. Like
Speaker 1: it's clear that he is the best running back in
Speaker 1: the world right now. So it's like, focus on the
Speaker 1: entire game plan, don't just hone in on Saquon Barklay.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what the Rams did because at
Speaker 1: times they were like, if AJ Brown didn't drop those
Speaker 1: two balls, I mean they're up two touchdowns. I'm selling out.
Speaker 2: So the thing that that kind of pomps out at
Speaker 2: me is that, And like, I get your point, right,
Speaker 2: because they have so many weapons there in Philadelphia. Now,
Speaker 2: minds you, Jalen Hurts a little bit banged up. He
Speaker 2: is expected to do a walk through ahead of the
Speaker 2: championship games. He's dealing with a bit of a knee
Speaker 2: injury right now. But you talk about trying to slow
Speaker 2: down everything, and I don't remember who it was that
Speaker 2: said this, but it's like, you know, when you prepare
Speaker 2: for everything, you really prepare for nothing, right, Like you
Speaker 2: are spread so thin, your resources are spread everywhere that
Speaker 2: you're trying to kind of guard everything that you end
Speaker 2: up sort.
Speaker 1: Of getting beat by everything. All at the same time.
Speaker 3: I would attack with a similar approach that the Bills
Speaker 3: attacked the Ravens with this past week. You sell out
Speaker 3: to stop the run. Saquon Barkley in two games this
Speaker 3: year against the Commanders had three hundred and fifty yards
Speaker 3: and four touchdowns, Like, you're not winning if he has
Speaker 3: another game like that this week. And then you add
Speaker 3: on the fact that Hurts has struggled this year under pressure,
Speaker 3: You add on the fact that their passing attack hasn't
Speaker 3: really been what it's been, and.
Speaker 1: Now he's hurt so he can't scramble and extend those plays.
Speaker 3: So potentially I'm they can to see if that knee
Speaker 3: is healthy, and I'm I'm stacking the box. I'm throwing
Speaker 3: everything i can upfront to try to put pressure on Hurts,
Speaker 3: try to take slow Saquon down. You're not gonna stop him,
Speaker 3: but you can't let him go for two hundred against you,
Speaker 3: where you got no chance in my opinion.
Speaker 2: All right, So on the one side, stopping se Kwon
Speaker 2: seems to be a key for the Commanders, Florio, Is
Speaker 2: it as simple for the Eagles as stop Jayden d
Speaker 2: Not that stopping Jayden Daniels has been simple, but is
Speaker 2: it as simple as saying, stop Jayden Daniels and you
Speaker 2: can beat the Commanders. Yes, because Jayden has already done.
Speaker 3: Like I tweeted it out today, our research packet is
Speaker 3: put in all the different ways that Jayden has already
Speaker 3: set history, led their team right in passing yards and
Speaker 3: rushing yards in the regular season, has already done so
Speaker 3: in a playoff game.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, you watch.
Speaker 3: Him pick apart defenses each of these last two weeks
Speaker 3: like he is going through his progressives perfectly and everything.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you need to make him as uncomfortable as possible,
Speaker 3: get as much pressure on him as possible, and really,
Speaker 3: dare anyone else to him? And Terry are the two
Speaker 3: players that you're like, if we could contain these two
Speaker 3: guys and they have just an average game by their standards,
Speaker 3: we should win this game and the Eagles. This surprised
Speaker 3: me too yesterday while I was doing some prep on it.
Speaker 3: In the game that they won, they did not blitz
Speaker 3: him much at all. Thirteen percent blitz sacked him three times.
Speaker 3: Daniels had one touchdown and one interception. But in week sixteen,
Speaker 3: they blitzed him thirty six percent of the time. He
Speaker 3: finished with five touchdowns and was only sacked one time.
Speaker 3: Ran wild on them and all of that. So very
Speaker 3: curious because you can't blitz them. So what are you
Speaker 3: gonna try to take running lanes away? I'm happy I
Speaker 3: am not the DC that he trying to figure this out.
Speaker 1: It's going to be very difficult.
Speaker 2: I mean, we saw that last week, right, Aaron Glenn
Speaker 2: tried the blitz and he got picked apart when they
Speaker 2: sat back and played coverage and then Daniels just took
Speaker 2: off and ran through them. I'm you know, So I'm
Speaker 2: sure that you know they are studying. The Phillies obviously
Speaker 2: got two games worth the tape already on him, you know.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're watching what happened last week to see
Speaker 2: his improvement. So yeah, it's gonna be tough to kind
Speaker 2: of figure out how to approach this thing for sure
Speaker 2: with Jayden Daniels. Meanwhile, Buffalo in Kansas City, Floria, you
Speaker 2: are the expert on this. You have watched you guys
Speaker 2: to talk first, Hikwan, what does Buffalo? What does Buffalo
Speaker 2: need to do to finally beat the Chiefs in the playoffs?
Speaker 1: Buffalo needs to play the same way that they played
Speaker 1: against the Ravens. I mean, honestly, there is a way
Speaker 1: that they could beat Patrick Mahomes. And I was speaking
Speaker 1: on it with the Texans when they're going up, you
Speaker 1: got to get in his face, you got to keep
Speaker 1: the pressure on. So the Bills just need to find
Speaker 1: a way to get Mahomes off his game. But there
Speaker 1: is some things that you just cannot stop Mahomes from doing,
Speaker 1: and that's that Mahomes magic. I'm talking about the diving
Speaker 1: almost hitting the ground, throw the Travis Kelcey for the
Speaker 1: end up. There's nothing you could do. They were getting
Speaker 1: pressure to him, they were getting his face, making them uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: He's still going out there doing the magic things. So
Speaker 1: the Bills just need to stay consistent in their game.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen needs to bring what is it the snowplow like,
Speaker 1: he needs to keep going as the lead rusher, and
Speaker 1: then James Cook needs to continue on cooking. I mean,
Speaker 1: the game plan is very simple. I honestly think you
Speaker 1: guys can pull it out, Florio, I.
Speaker 2: Honestly think it's as simple as sevens and not threes, right,
Speaker 2: just moving the football when you get in the red zone,
Speaker 2: sevens and not threes, because it's.
Speaker 1: Inevitable even early.
Speaker 2: Right, you drive down the field, you stall out at
Speaker 2: like the twelve, and you kick the field goal, and
Speaker 2: you know that ends up being the difference at some
Speaker 2: point in the game, because even if the Chiefs don't
Speaker 2: score on every possession, they will score touchdowns on enough
Speaker 2: of them to put pressure on you. And I think,
Speaker 2: you know, everything the Bills have done, I think continues
Speaker 2: to work. It's just when you get close, you got
Speaker 2: to punch it in the end zone and force force
Speaker 2: Mahomes and the Chiefs offense to match you seven for
Speaker 2: seven the entire way.
Speaker 1: So, Floria, the floor is yours.
Speaker 3: So my thoughts is this game comes down to the
Speaker 3: Bills defense in Josh Allen. In the four games they've
Speaker 3: beat them in the regular season, the Bills have averaged
Speaker 3: twenty eight points per game. In the three games they
Speaker 3: have lost in the playoffs to the Chiefs, the Bills
Speaker 3: have averaged twenty eight points per game. The difference is
Speaker 3: Mahomes against the Bills in the regular season has averaged
Speaker 3: us than twenty one points per game. In the playoffs,
Speaker 3: it's thirty six. Like they're not gonna bring five every
Speaker 3: time like they were against Baltimore. I don't think you
Speaker 3: need to sell out to stuff the run because this
Speaker 3: Kansas City rushing attack is pretty brutal, and they don't
Speaker 3: have that breakaway runner anymore that could really gash you.
Speaker 3: I think you used the Milano and Bernard as spies
Speaker 3: against Mahomes, so he's not beating you with his legs.
Speaker 3: I think you put Toron Johnson on Travis Kelcey a lot.
Speaker 3: Hopefully Benford could play, he could be unworthy. I think
Speaker 3: this is the best the Bills defense has matched up
Speaker 3: with the Chiefs of any of these playoff matchups. It's
Speaker 3: just a matter of execution and turnovers are going to
Speaker 3: decide this game. I think I trust the offense so much.
Speaker 3: I think they'll be able to run. I know the
Speaker 3: Chiefs have been great against the run, so were the Ravens,
Speaker 3: so were the Broncos.
Speaker 1: This Bill's O line is different.
Speaker 3: Fewest Sackson turnovers ever, Like they're playing such clean football
Speaker 3: right now. On offense, and the Chiefs when they don't blitz,
Speaker 3: they don't generate pressure. But Josh Allen has been elite
Speaker 3: against the blitz this year, so you kind of need
Speaker 3: to pick your poison. Are we gonna try to blitz him?
Speaker 3: It did work for them in week eleven and let
Speaker 3: him be that, like that's the strength for him. Or
Speaker 3: do we not blitz and just give him all day
Speaker 3: to kind of try to pick us apart with his arm?
Speaker 3: But guys, this is where I'm at in this game.
Speaker 3: I want the Bills watching episodes three and four of
Speaker 3: the Last Dance all week long, because.
Speaker 1: That is what this is to me. Like Jordan and
Speaker 1: the Bulls were getting bullied by the.
Speaker 3: Pistons years and then that fourth year it was like
Speaker 3: we are.
Speaker 1: Better than them.
Speaker 3: We are better on paper, and I think the Bills
Speaker 3: ross there's way better than the Chiefs roster, but like
Speaker 3: that mental thing, can they get over the home I
Speaker 3: think I think the Bills win by two scores in
Speaker 3: this game.
Speaker 1: Let's go Wow.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm guessing if we search the the NFL directory,
Speaker 2: you could probably find an email address for Sean McDermott,
Speaker 2: So maybe you should just save him out there, right, Like,
Speaker 2: just go through your email and just hit the directory
Speaker 2: look for McDermott. You can, I'm sure you can find
Speaker 2: it and send him your your suggestion on what they
Speaker 2: should watch heading into this game.
Speaker 3: So I'll say this, if the game is close, the
Speaker 3: Chiefs are gonna win. I think like they just have
Speaker 3: that mindset.
Speaker 1: They pull it.
Speaker 3: They're so elite situationally, But have you guys looked at
Speaker 3: the Chiefs schedule this year outside of the Week one
Speaker 3: win against the Ravens, They're not that battle tested, Like
Speaker 3: they haven't played any other elite team. They've had a
Speaker 3: very easy skin. Look, I could eat Crow easily. But
Speaker 3: in the past I've been like, the chief should be favorites,
Speaker 3: this could be the year and stuff. But this is
Speaker 3: the first time that I look at it and I'm like,
Speaker 3: the Bills are the.
Speaker 2: Better team here well, And I think I think when
Speaker 2: you look at their schedule, I was like this it's
Speaker 2: one that I think at the start of the season
Speaker 2: looked tougher that it turned out to be. But the
Speaker 2: teams they played were not playing well at the time.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: They got the Bengals early when they were struggling, you know,
Speaker 2: they got the Falcons, who are still figuring things out.
Speaker 2: The Chargers were met, the Saints ended up being a
Speaker 2: dumpster fire, The Niners were beat up, the Raiders, the Bucks.
Speaker 1: The Broncos are still five.
Speaker 2: I mean that was their first nine games, right, they
Speaker 2: were nine to zero before they ran up on the Bills.
Speaker 2: Even the back Panthers, Raiders, Chargers, Browns, text and so
Speaker 2: you're right, it's a schedule that at the start of
Speaker 2: the season, if you looked at it in August, you're like, this,
Speaker 2: this might be kind of interesting. And then as the
Speaker 2: season played out it ended up not being particularly great.
Speaker 2: But you know, as they say, you can only play
Speaker 2: who's in front of you, so that that part is
Speaker 2: what it is.
Speaker 3: Who do you We haven't made our picks. I said,
Speaker 3: who I think is gonna win?
Speaker 1: No, that's what I was gonna both. Look here, you've
Speaker 1: already said who you think is gonna win the Bills game?
Speaker 2: So finish it out. Who in Super Bowl fifty nine?
Speaker 2: You should just start calling it the Florio Bowl. I
Speaker 2: think because it's my two favorite quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 2: It's it's Josh h.
Speaker 1: Shaden all right, all right? Who you got the La Quad?
Speaker 1: I'm on that too, Man, I need a commander in there, man. Wow,
Speaker 1: make it unanimous.
Speaker 2: Then we're going to get the rematch, the rematch of
Speaker 2: Super Bowl twenty six when Washington beat Buffalo thirty seven
Speaker 2: twenty four behind Mark Rippins touchdown passes.
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly had a rough day that day.
Speaker 2: Two touchdowns, four picks in that one'll running back, running back.
Speaker 1: We go all the way back to nineteen January nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety two. Hey, I was there.
Speaker 3: I was on Earth Fellas. I am Spencer Brown on Sunday.
Speaker 3: This is what he said. He said, if they beat
Speaker 3: the Chiefs, it's going to be a super celebration party,
Speaker 3: or it's going to be me in a twenty four
Speaker 3: pack by myself.
Speaker 1: There it is, there, it is.
Speaker 2: Side note Back in nineteen eighty the Super Bowl was
Speaker 2: played on January twenty sixth, which basically would have been
Speaker 2: just a few days from now. So wow, Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: how much things have changed.
Speaker 1: In thirty three years. For sure. There you go.
Speaker 2: We will be back next Tuesday to recap what happened
Speaker 2: in the championship games. Will bentind you more of our
Speaker 2: exit interviews as well. I should be a fun weekend,
Speaker 2: looking forward to checking out all the football there so
Speaker 2: anyway that will do it. For this edition of the
Speaker 2: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, the Happy, Safe and Healthy, do
Speaker 2: good and live well, enjoy the games this week and everybody,
Speaker 2: and we will talk to you next week.
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