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Speaker 1: It was fun. Fray Flowers joining us, Welcome again, Nice

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Speaker 1: We'll leave Rob here with us for just a few

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Speaker 1: minutes though, is as we wrap up our hour with him.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Tray, appreciate it. We'll see you again. So,