1 00:00:11,657 --> 00:00:14,937 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Joe podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,937 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:17,977 --> 00:00:23,377 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. A mass shooting in a 4 00:00:23,417 --> 00:00:26,537 Speaker 1: wealthy suburb of Chicago left seven n and at least 5 00:00:26,577 --> 00:00:29,697 Speaker 1: thirty injured on Monday. According to police, twenty one year 6 00:00:29,777 --> 00:00:33,857 Speaker 1: old suspect Robert Cremo allegedly opened fire on the Highland 7 00:00:33,857 --> 00:00:36,937 Speaker 1: Park Fourth of July parade, airing off seventy rounds from 8 00:00:36,937 --> 00:00:39,577 Speaker 1: an a R fifteen rifle while disguised as a woman. 9 00:00:39,897 --> 00:00:42,177 Speaker 1: Will have the latest on the shooting and the reaction 10 00:00:42,377 --> 00:00:50,897 Speaker 1: on Tonight's All the Line Welcome Hold the one. I'm 11 00:00:50,937 --> 00:00:58,297 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton. Another weekend of horrific violence across the country, 12 00:00:59,097 --> 00:01:04,857 Speaker 1: many shooting incidents in major cities, but notably this mass 13 00:01:04,937 --> 00:01:09,137 Speaker 1: shooting event that occurred just about twenty miles north of 14 00:01:09,137 --> 00:01:13,777 Speaker 1: the city of Chicago. It was targeting. An individual targeted 15 00:01:13,897 --> 00:01:18,657 Speaker 1: a Fourth of July parade, shooting everybody in sight, the 16 00:01:18,697 --> 00:01:23,937 Speaker 1: elderly children. An act of horrific mass murder that just 17 00:01:23,977 --> 00:01:30,097 Speaker 1: seems incomprehensible to anyone who is not a completed utter psychopath, 18 00:01:30,137 --> 00:01:35,097 Speaker 1: as this individual clearly is and now we know more 19 00:01:35,137 --> 00:01:40,377 Speaker 1: details about this. Lake County Police spokesman Chris Pavelli today 20 00:01:40,417 --> 00:01:44,977 Speaker 1: address this and said that the shooter, Robert Crimo, planned 21 00:01:44,977 --> 00:01:49,897 Speaker 1: the shooting in advance. We do believe Cremo pre planned 22 00:01:49,897 --> 00:01:53,777 Speaker 1: this attack for several weeks. He brought a high powered 23 00:01:53,897 --> 00:01:57,017 Speaker 1: rifle to this parade. He accessed the roof of a 24 00:01:57,097 --> 00:02:02,297 Speaker 1: business via a fire escape ladder and began opening fire 25 00:02:02,497 --> 00:02:08,737 Speaker 1: on the innocent Independence Day celebration goers. It's a horrific event. 26 00:02:08,977 --> 00:02:13,617 Speaker 1: There is the shoot who everyone who sees his photos, 27 00:02:13,617 --> 00:02:15,657 Speaker 1: which are now all over the internet along with his videos. 28 00:02:15,657 --> 00:02:19,377 Speaker 1: He had some kind of a rap channel that he 29 00:02:19,457 --> 00:02:21,497 Speaker 1: set up on YouTube that was taken down. There's a 30 00:02:21,497 --> 00:02:25,337 Speaker 1: lot of this guy's content online. I mean he looks 31 00:02:25,377 --> 00:02:27,537 Speaker 1: crazy too most both. I mean, he looks like somebody 32 00:02:27,537 --> 00:02:29,777 Speaker 1: who is deranged, exceeding in his eyes, the face and 33 00:02:29,857 --> 00:02:33,537 Speaker 1: neck tattoos. It looks like somebody who if a red 34 00:02:33,577 --> 00:02:38,097 Speaker 1: flag law won't stop him, who will? Which Illinois has 35 00:02:38,137 --> 00:02:41,297 Speaker 1: red flag law in place? By the way, who does 36 00:02:41,337 --> 00:02:43,697 Speaker 1: a red flag law stop? You start to wonder about this, 37 00:02:43,737 --> 00:02:45,417 Speaker 1: If it won't stop an individual like this, and so 38 00:02:45,457 --> 00:02:48,817 Speaker 1: then is it the takeaway that a red flag law 39 00:02:48,857 --> 00:02:51,937 Speaker 1: wouldn't even be or isn't even effective, despite all the 40 00:02:51,977 --> 00:02:57,257 Speaker 1: conversation recently about them. This is an instance of mental 41 00:02:57,297 --> 00:03:01,817 Speaker 1: health breakdown for this individual. Obviously he's crazy, and it's 42 00:03:01,897 --> 00:03:06,777 Speaker 1: also a case where someone is evil. But immediately anytime 43 00:03:06,817 --> 00:03:09,257 Speaker 1: there's a shooting like this, there is an effort to 44 00:03:09,337 --> 00:03:13,217 Speaker 1: politicize it and make it all about gun control. Here 45 00:03:13,297 --> 00:03:16,017 Speaker 1: is the mayor of Highland Park, Illinois doing just that. 46 00:03:17,497 --> 00:03:19,617 Speaker 1: My recollection of him was as a sweet little boy. 47 00:03:21,177 --> 00:03:25,497 Speaker 1: You know, I'm sorry that we're glorifying what he put 48 00:03:25,537 --> 00:03:27,977 Speaker 1: on social media. I don't want to encourage other people 49 00:03:27,977 --> 00:03:32,017 Speaker 1: to think that this is a way to lead into 50 00:03:32,057 --> 00:03:34,777 Speaker 1: this kind of violence. We need to have a very 51 00:03:34,777 --> 00:03:38,937 Speaker 1: real national conversation about why we're okay with allowing weapons 52 00:03:38,937 --> 00:03:41,777 Speaker 1: of war on our streets and why we're okay with 53 00:03:42,017 --> 00:03:47,097 Speaker 1: weekly having mass shootings. Okay, what is that conversation supposed 54 00:03:47,137 --> 00:03:48,777 Speaker 1: to be? We hear about this all the time. What 55 00:03:48,897 --> 00:03:53,297 Speaker 1: is the conversation? There are tens of millions of a 56 00:03:53,457 --> 00:03:57,097 Speaker 1: R fifteen style rifles already in circulations, tens of millions 57 00:03:57,097 --> 00:03:59,657 Speaker 1: in this country right now. There are literally millions of 58 00:03:59,657 --> 00:04:02,977 Speaker 1: people who own them and who never break anymore, and 59 00:04:03,097 --> 00:04:06,457 Speaker 1: pose no threat to anyone except perhaps a tyrannical government 60 00:04:06,537 --> 00:04:10,737 Speaker 1: or a home invasion criminal. So what is the national 61 00:04:10,737 --> 00:04:14,297 Speaker 1: conversation supposed to be exactly? They never say, this is 62 00:04:14,337 --> 00:04:19,937 Speaker 1: just about poking and prodding their political opponents and using 63 00:04:19,937 --> 00:04:23,977 Speaker 1: this moment of tragedy and emotional upheaval to achieve that. 64 00:04:24,697 --> 00:04:28,657 Speaker 1: And then that brings me to the Governor of Illinois, JB. Pritzker, 65 00:04:28,777 --> 00:04:33,697 Speaker 1: who honestly strikes me as a total imbecile on the 66 00:04:33,737 --> 00:04:36,337 Speaker 1: issue of guns, and perhaps far more than just that. 67 00:04:36,817 --> 00:04:38,657 Speaker 1: I don't care that he's very wealthy. I don't care 68 00:04:38,657 --> 00:04:41,817 Speaker 1: that he's the governor of Illinois. He's a jackass. And 69 00:04:41,897 --> 00:04:45,017 Speaker 1: here he is saying that. I mean, this is of 70 00:04:45,057 --> 00:04:47,177 Speaker 1: all the arguments you hear around the Second Amendment and 71 00:04:47,217 --> 00:04:51,577 Speaker 1: guns and gun violence, the it only protects muskets is 72 00:04:51,657 --> 00:04:54,017 Speaker 1: probably for the dumbest people. I mean, that's the one, 73 00:04:54,457 --> 00:04:56,697 Speaker 1: you know, that's the one where you say, this argument 74 00:04:56,777 --> 00:05:03,097 Speaker 1: is so obviously absurd and stupid, so intellectually subpar. How 75 00:05:03,137 --> 00:05:05,417 Speaker 1: could anyone make it with a straight face. Well, here's 76 00:05:05,417 --> 00:05:07,817 Speaker 1: the governor of Illinois saying, the founders thought, you know, 77 00:05:07,857 --> 00:05:10,697 Speaker 1: you wouldn't have had an assault weapon. Maybe it. Watch, 78 00:05:11,577 --> 00:05:16,857 Speaker 1: our founders carried muskets, not assault weapons, and I don't 79 00:05:16,857 --> 00:05:18,937 Speaker 1: think a single one of them would have said that 80 00:05:19,057 --> 00:05:21,817 Speaker 1: you have a constitutional right to an assault weapon with 81 00:05:21,937 --> 00:05:26,737 Speaker 1: a high capacity magazine. Supreme Court's already dealt with this. 82 00:05:27,017 --> 00:05:28,937 Speaker 1: I mean, this has already been addressed by the highest 83 00:05:28,977 --> 00:05:30,577 Speaker 1: court in the land. And it does make you sit 84 00:05:30,617 --> 00:05:34,217 Speaker 1: here and say to yourself, what are the British Red coats? 85 00:05:34,217 --> 00:05:36,217 Speaker 1: We just had Independence Day weekend. What are the British 86 00:05:36,257 --> 00:05:40,737 Speaker 1: Red Coats carry? Oh? Yeah, muskets. So they were carrying 87 00:05:40,737 --> 00:05:45,217 Speaker 1: the same thing that the colonists were able to carry, 88 00:05:45,617 --> 00:05:47,377 Speaker 1: so that they can actually meet them on a battlefield 89 00:05:47,417 --> 00:05:50,737 Speaker 1: and be a weapon against tyranny. Oh right, so weapons 90 00:05:50,737 --> 00:05:53,697 Speaker 1: in common usage. Supreme courts already looked at this. If 91 00:05:53,737 --> 00:05:55,897 Speaker 1: anyone who needs a little more assistance on the constitutional 92 00:05:55,937 --> 00:05:59,297 Speaker 1: interpretation side of it. Yeah, they didn't know that assault 93 00:05:59,377 --> 00:06:01,657 Speaker 1: rifles would exist in seventeen seventy six. They also didn't 94 00:06:01,657 --> 00:06:04,017 Speaker 1: know the Internet would exist. So does free speech not 95 00:06:04,057 --> 00:06:08,377 Speaker 1: include the internet? You utter moron, Governor Pritzker. But it Yeah, 96 00:06:08,417 --> 00:06:10,497 Speaker 1: it's hard to believe he's actually that dumb. It feels 97 00:06:10,537 --> 00:06:13,417 Speaker 1: like maybe he's just playing some kind of a political 98 00:06:13,497 --> 00:06:16,097 Speaker 1: game here and playing to his bass because when he 99 00:06:16,137 --> 00:06:17,737 Speaker 1: definitely doesn't want is for people to look at the 100 00:06:17,857 --> 00:06:21,857 Speaker 1: primary the largest city in his state, Chicago, while there 101 00:06:21,937 --> 00:06:25,977 Speaker 1: was this horrific seven fatality mass murder of the weekend 102 00:06:26,777 --> 00:06:30,577 Speaker 1: from this clearly deranged little psychopath who's now in custody 103 00:06:30,617 --> 00:06:32,417 Speaker 1: and facing charges. Put him in prison the rest of 104 00:06:32,417 --> 00:06:34,337 Speaker 1: his life. I mean, if you believe in the death penalty, 105 00:06:34,377 --> 00:06:37,897 Speaker 1: he should definitely get the death penalty. And yet in 106 00:06:37,977 --> 00:06:41,057 Speaker 1: Chicago there were seventy one other shootings over the weekend. 107 00:06:41,097 --> 00:06:45,257 Speaker 1: Seventy one people's shot, eight were killed. Now this is 108 00:06:46,097 --> 00:06:48,697 Speaker 1: almost all handgun violence, by the way, this is all 109 00:06:48,697 --> 00:06:50,737 Speaker 1: with handguns. So all the talk about asault rifles would 110 00:06:50,777 --> 00:06:53,657 Speaker 1: do nothing to stop this. And this is just what 111 00:06:53,817 --> 00:07:01,057 Speaker 1: is now considered somehow the new horrific normal in a 112 00:07:01,097 --> 00:07:03,937 Speaker 1: city like Chicago, that over a holiday weekend in the summer, 113 00:07:04,297 --> 00:07:07,857 Speaker 1: you're going to have not even just a few dozen, 114 00:07:08,177 --> 00:07:11,097 Speaker 1: seventy one people shot, eight people killed in one weekend 115 00:07:11,097 --> 00:07:13,817 Speaker 1: in one city. It's a lot of shootings, it's a 116 00:07:13,817 --> 00:07:17,137 Speaker 1: lot of people getting bullets put in them by criminals, 117 00:07:18,177 --> 00:07:20,857 Speaker 1: a lot of murderers running around in the city of Chicago, 118 00:07:21,737 --> 00:07:24,097 Speaker 1: what is the governor doing, what's the mayor Laurie Liffeld doing? 119 00:07:24,137 --> 00:07:29,177 Speaker 1: Obviously nothing, complaining about white supremacy, talking about the insurrection 120 00:07:29,417 --> 00:07:35,057 Speaker 1: something like that, you know, not actually handling the outrageous 121 00:07:35,057 --> 00:07:40,057 Speaker 1: surge of criminality that continues to rip through Chicago in 122 00:07:40,097 --> 00:07:41,937 Speaker 1: a number of other cities. But Chicago is really in 123 00:07:42,257 --> 00:07:45,457 Speaker 1: for a large city, in a class by itself, and 124 00:07:45,617 --> 00:07:47,817 Speaker 1: the violence that occurs there is occurring in what is 125 00:07:47,817 --> 00:07:52,017 Speaker 1: effectively the most restrictive gun law city in the country, 126 00:07:52,737 --> 00:07:58,377 Speaker 1: in Chicago, DC, maybe New York. So what exactly are 127 00:07:58,377 --> 00:08:01,697 Speaker 1: they achieving by lecturing us on a national conversation about 128 00:08:01,697 --> 00:08:05,057 Speaker 1: firearms that focuses on assault rifles and says we can 129 00:08:05,057 --> 00:08:08,697 Speaker 1: only have muskets when there are gangbangers killing dozens and 130 00:08:08,737 --> 00:08:12,057 Speaker 1: dozens of people every weekend with handguns in their main 131 00:08:12,137 --> 00:08:16,577 Speaker 1: city run entirely by Democrats. They have no answer. 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That was Paul Krimo, 157 00:09:34,977 --> 00:09:38,497 Speaker 1: the uncle of the alleged Highland Park gunman, telling local 158 00:09:38,537 --> 00:09:42,057 Speaker 1: media that he saw no warning signs from his nephew, 159 00:09:42,097 --> 00:09:45,777 Speaker 1: the alleged mass murderer from the fourth of July Parade 160 00:09:45,777 --> 00:09:50,257 Speaker 1: shooting over the weekend. Police alleged that his nephew, Robert Kremo, 161 00:09:50,377 --> 00:09:53,257 Speaker 1: as we said, had been planning the shooting for weeks 162 00:09:53,297 --> 00:09:56,137 Speaker 1: in advance that left seven dead. They have yet to 163 00:09:56,217 --> 00:09:59,137 Speaker 1: uncover or discuss a motive. Publicly joining me now to 164 00:09:59,137 --> 00:10:03,257 Speaker 1: give his insights into yesterday shooting, retired FBI Supervisory Special 165 00:10:03,297 --> 00:10:06,457 Speaker 1: Agent James Deagliano. James, thanks for being one of us. 166 00:10:07,577 --> 00:10:12,497 Speaker 1: It would it be with you, bub So that's tough. Right, 167 00:10:12,537 --> 00:10:18,857 Speaker 1: We sit here again another discussion about a vicious mass murder, 168 00:10:18,937 --> 00:10:21,937 Speaker 1: shooting of innocent people, and there's a lot of we'll 169 00:10:21,977 --> 00:10:24,817 Speaker 1: take a step away from the part is in finger pointing, 170 00:10:24,857 --> 00:10:27,257 Speaker 1: it happens right away. The mental health side of this, 171 00:10:27,497 --> 00:10:31,257 Speaker 1: I think that's one place where both sides can agree. 172 00:10:31,657 --> 00:10:34,737 Speaker 1: There's clearly a problem right that these individuals. I mean, 173 00:10:34,737 --> 00:10:36,977 Speaker 1: this guy's a psychopath. You don't have to have a 174 00:10:37,537 --> 00:10:41,217 Speaker 1: degree in psychiatry to know that. How do you catch 175 00:10:41,257 --> 00:10:43,017 Speaker 1: this stuff? James? I mean, I'm seeing some of your 176 00:10:43,017 --> 00:10:47,097 Speaker 1: former colleagues and the FBI who are profilers going on 177 00:10:47,137 --> 00:10:50,897 Speaker 1: TV to talk about it. Is that something that might 178 00:10:50,977 --> 00:10:54,417 Speaker 1: be applicable, useful in advance of these incidents? How does 179 00:10:54,457 --> 00:10:58,737 Speaker 1: that all work? I mean, buckets we talked in in 180 00:10:58,777 --> 00:11:01,057 Speaker 1: the wake of a number of mass shootings like this, 181 00:11:01,137 --> 00:11:05,217 Speaker 1: and it's a complex issue. As you know, there exists 182 00:11:05,257 --> 00:11:08,617 Speaker 1: no panacea. I mean, there's no profiler in the world 183 00:11:08,617 --> 00:11:10,977 Speaker 1: that's going to get these things right every time. And 184 00:11:11,017 --> 00:11:15,177 Speaker 1: I think you alluded to it at the top. Evil exists. 185 00:11:15,697 --> 00:11:18,377 Speaker 1: You want to tie it into mental health, of course, 186 00:11:18,417 --> 00:11:22,257 Speaker 1: you want to tie it into a proliferation of weapons, okay, 187 00:11:22,417 --> 00:11:25,337 Speaker 1: but there's not one set thing that we could do 188 00:11:25,457 --> 00:11:28,137 Speaker 1: to stop this. Now. This guy fit the profile right 189 00:11:28,777 --> 00:11:32,777 Speaker 1: disaffected or disenfranchised. And I'm not a psychologist or a 190 00:11:32,857 --> 00:11:35,937 Speaker 1: sociologist either, but I think we can make that leap 191 00:11:36,017 --> 00:11:39,617 Speaker 1: to say that this was a disenfranchised young man between 192 00:11:39,617 --> 00:11:42,897 Speaker 1: the ages of eighteen and twenty five. And to your point, 193 00:11:43,257 --> 00:11:46,577 Speaker 1: they come in all shapes and sizes and colors, and 194 00:11:46,617 --> 00:11:51,457 Speaker 1: they hewed to different ideological ends of the spectrum. So 195 00:11:51,497 --> 00:11:54,497 Speaker 1: there's not a one size fits all here. But it 196 00:11:54,537 --> 00:11:57,617 Speaker 1: was a legally obtained weapon, and you had somebody that 197 00:11:57,777 --> 00:12:00,577 Speaker 1: did clearly have and again I'm not trying to diagnose 198 00:12:00,617 --> 00:12:02,937 Speaker 1: it on your show, but clearly had some type of 199 00:12:03,777 --> 00:12:08,457 Speaker 1: mental issues. And I've been describing this all day as 200 00:12:09,017 --> 00:12:15,337 Speaker 1: these people are grievance collectors. Something happened, something triggered it, 201 00:12:15,457 --> 00:12:18,417 Speaker 1: whether they were an in cell, or whether they felt 202 00:12:18,417 --> 00:12:21,137 Speaker 1: like they were marginalized, or whether or not they got 203 00:12:21,177 --> 00:12:24,897 Speaker 1: online in their parents' basement and were radicalized, or heard 204 00:12:24,977 --> 00:12:29,617 Speaker 1: some sirens call, some clarion call to go do something. 205 00:12:29,697 --> 00:12:32,137 Speaker 1: Now we know of none of those things right now 206 00:12:32,177 --> 00:12:34,537 Speaker 1: that exist because police have not released any of it. 207 00:12:34,857 --> 00:12:38,097 Speaker 1: But if this goes to form, that's what we're gonna find. 208 00:12:38,217 --> 00:12:42,297 Speaker 1: Somebody on the periphery, somebody marginalized, somebody that had been 209 00:12:42,337 --> 00:12:46,937 Speaker 1: collecting grievances and decided to take it out yesterday in 210 00:12:47,097 --> 00:12:50,857 Speaker 1: Highland Park, Illinois and kill. We just now know that 211 00:12:50,897 --> 00:12:54,217 Speaker 1: there are now seven people dead and buck over two 212 00:12:54,257 --> 00:12:59,137 Speaker 1: dozen wounded. James the state of Illinois, I understand it 213 00:12:59,217 --> 00:13:03,337 Speaker 1: does have red flag laws, right, so this falls under 214 00:13:03,377 --> 00:13:07,377 Speaker 1: the okay we keep hearing, if only we had the following. 215 00:13:07,417 --> 00:13:12,577 Speaker 1: The state of Illinois has red flag laws. Illinois has 216 00:13:12,617 --> 00:13:16,617 Speaker 1: a number of measures in place to prevent people from 217 00:13:16,657 --> 00:13:22,417 Speaker 1: getting firearms, certainly illegally. I believe they have an assault 218 00:13:22,537 --> 00:13:24,457 Speaker 1: rifle band, but I might need to check on that 219 00:13:24,497 --> 00:13:27,497 Speaker 1: one in the state. I think it's it's difficult generally. 220 00:13:27,817 --> 00:13:30,417 Speaker 1: I'm sorry they don't have a sault rifle band. But 221 00:13:30,537 --> 00:13:33,657 Speaker 1: this would have fallen. This would fall under a case 222 00:13:33,697 --> 00:13:36,977 Speaker 1: where the individual was even with the elevated age that 223 00:13:37,017 --> 00:13:39,737 Speaker 1: people have talked about recently and the most recent legislation, 224 00:13:40,057 --> 00:13:42,137 Speaker 1: he was twenty two, so he wouldn't have been covered 225 00:13:42,457 --> 00:13:47,137 Speaker 1: in that restriction. So what are we supposed to think 226 00:13:47,537 --> 00:13:49,977 Speaker 1: would have been What is the measure other than this 227 00:13:50,057 --> 00:13:54,977 Speaker 1: guy's crazy lock him up indefinitely that law enforcement could 228 00:13:55,057 --> 00:14:01,737 Speaker 1: take in advance of him actually engaging in this heinous plot. Sure, 229 00:14:01,897 --> 00:14:04,697 Speaker 1: and we live in a free and open society and 230 00:14:04,737 --> 00:14:07,977 Speaker 1: we don't want to live under martial law. And in 231 00:14:08,097 --> 00:14:09,737 Speaker 1: order for us to live in a free and open 232 00:14:09,817 --> 00:14:14,457 Speaker 1: society and cherish our civil liberties, these things are going 233 00:14:14,537 --> 00:14:16,977 Speaker 1: to happen, and people are gonna push back and say, well, 234 00:14:16,977 --> 00:14:19,977 Speaker 1: you've got to stop it. Well, every time somebody says 235 00:14:19,977 --> 00:14:23,777 Speaker 1: something hateful and bigoted, you can't lock them up for it. Yes, 236 00:14:23,817 --> 00:14:28,457 Speaker 1: we know the difference between fomenting and inciting riots or 237 00:14:28,697 --> 00:14:32,857 Speaker 1: hate speech designed to get people hurt. We understand those differences. 238 00:14:33,137 --> 00:14:35,777 Speaker 1: But the bottom line is the First Amendment doesn't protect 239 00:14:35,817 --> 00:14:39,057 Speaker 1: the right to free speech that you and I like, Buck, 240 00:14:39,337 --> 00:14:44,217 Speaker 1: It protects free speech that we abhore. Now you mentioned Chicago. 241 00:14:44,697 --> 00:14:46,977 Speaker 1: This is a city much like the city of New York, 242 00:14:47,017 --> 00:14:49,617 Speaker 1: which is sixty miles south from where I live, and 243 00:14:50,377 --> 00:14:52,897 Speaker 1: I spent twenty five years there as an FBI agent, 244 00:14:53,257 --> 00:14:58,297 Speaker 1: some of the most draconian laws related to weapons. Right now, 245 00:14:58,657 --> 00:15:02,257 Speaker 1: this past fourth or July weekend that just concluded, I 246 00:15:02,297 --> 00:15:05,137 Speaker 1: want to give you some staggering statistics about the city 247 00:15:05,137 --> 00:15:08,137 Speaker 1: of Chicago, which is only twenty miles away from Highland Park, 248 00:15:08,897 --> 00:15:12,417 Speaker 1: seventy one people shot this weekend Buck. Eight were killed. 249 00:15:13,017 --> 00:15:15,737 Speaker 1: Last year over the Fourth of July weekend in Chicago 250 00:15:16,177 --> 00:15:21,057 Speaker 1: one hundred plus shot, nineteen killed twenty twenty, the height 251 00:15:21,137 --> 00:15:25,497 Speaker 1: of the pandemic. Buck in Chicago over Fourth of July weekend, 252 00:15:25,937 --> 00:15:30,337 Speaker 1: seventy nine shot and fifteen killed. So look, that's not 253 00:15:30,377 --> 00:15:34,177 Speaker 1: a red herring. I'm not trying to you know, point 254 00:15:34,177 --> 00:15:37,257 Speaker 1: people in another direction. But it's important we understand when 255 00:15:37,257 --> 00:15:40,177 Speaker 1: we talk about mass shootings, which are generally described as 256 00:15:40,617 --> 00:15:45,017 Speaker 1: three or more people wounded or killed. These go on 257 00:15:45,257 --> 00:15:49,457 Speaker 1: in perpetuity and in big cities, in large cities, they 258 00:15:49,497 --> 00:15:53,137 Speaker 1: happen multiple times every weekend. That's where we have a 259 00:15:53,217 --> 00:15:57,017 Speaker 1: proliferation of illegal weapons. Now, I wish I could have 260 00:15:57,057 --> 00:15:58,617 Speaker 1: and I know you would have done the same thing, 261 00:15:59,137 --> 00:16:05,897 Speaker 1: stopped this depraved miscreant, this Cretan who perpetrated this awful, awful, 262 00:16:06,137 --> 00:16:09,097 Speaker 1: heinous crime. But if you're gonna live in a city 263 00:16:09,417 --> 00:16:12,457 Speaker 1: or in a date, we're in a country that doesn't 264 00:16:12,537 --> 00:16:16,177 Speaker 1: hue to martial law. Buck evil exists. We do the 265 00:16:16,217 --> 00:16:17,857 Speaker 1: best we can to get out in front of it 266 00:16:17,897 --> 00:16:21,377 Speaker 1: and prevent it. But it's not a perfect, full safe system. 267 00:16:21,417 --> 00:16:24,657 Speaker 1: Anything that you see here, James, that you think so far, 268 00:16:24,737 --> 00:16:26,537 Speaker 1: I know, we're still getting a lot of details. But 269 00:16:27,177 --> 00:16:31,417 Speaker 1: law enforcements miss the red miss the red flag, miss 270 00:16:31,497 --> 00:16:35,017 Speaker 1: the indicators here, or is this just too hard to 271 00:16:35,057 --> 00:16:39,057 Speaker 1: catch in advance based on the info we have so far. Yeah, 272 00:16:39,537 --> 00:16:41,537 Speaker 1: we're always going to get that where people are gonna 273 00:16:41,737 --> 00:16:45,297 Speaker 1: are understandably gonna push back and go how come you 274 00:16:45,337 --> 00:16:47,617 Speaker 1: didn't know this, or how come you didn't stop this? 275 00:16:47,937 --> 00:16:51,497 Speaker 1: Or if this person was quote unquote on your radar, 276 00:16:51,937 --> 00:16:54,177 Speaker 1: how come you didn't take them off the street. Well, 277 00:16:54,217 --> 00:16:57,697 Speaker 1: we can't arrest people just because we think they might 278 00:16:57,777 --> 00:17:01,297 Speaker 1: do something. There has to be two parts of a crime, right. 279 00:17:01,337 --> 00:17:03,897 Speaker 1: It has to be the actual act the actors rays, 280 00:17:04,217 --> 00:17:05,737 Speaker 1: and then it has to be the men's ray the 281 00:17:05,857 --> 00:17:08,497 Speaker 1: thought process to do it. A lot of times you 282 00:17:08,577 --> 00:17:11,057 Speaker 1: can't hit these things off in a buck. I think 283 00:17:11,177 --> 00:17:14,137 Speaker 1: one thing that strikes me is police are still referring 284 00:17:14,137 --> 00:17:17,537 Speaker 1: to this person as a person of interest. Now, person 285 00:17:17,617 --> 00:17:21,777 Speaker 1: of interest is not somebody charged with a crime. This individual, 286 00:17:21,857 --> 00:17:24,177 Speaker 1: to my knowledge now it could have happened and they 287 00:17:24,257 --> 00:17:27,177 Speaker 1: just haven't announced it yet, has not been charged with 288 00:17:27,417 --> 00:17:30,017 Speaker 1: a crime. So he's considered to be a person of 289 00:17:30,217 --> 00:17:33,657 Speaker 1: interest who was possibly involved in a crime. So it's 290 00:17:33,657 --> 00:17:35,697 Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see as the police are 291 00:17:35,777 --> 00:17:40,257 Speaker 1: gathering information. They're certainly scrubbing the internet where where this 292 00:17:40,417 --> 00:17:45,977 Speaker 1: individual was involved in tons of disturbing imagery and postings, 293 00:17:46,177 --> 00:17:48,297 Speaker 1: and they're obviously going to be doing good old fashioned 294 00:17:48,337 --> 00:17:51,577 Speaker 1: detective work talking to people and finding out who this 295 00:17:51,737 --> 00:17:55,137 Speaker 1: person came in contact with, did anyone inspire him or 296 00:17:55,217 --> 00:17:57,577 Speaker 1: direct him to do this hateful act, and if so, 297 00:17:57,977 --> 00:18:00,977 Speaker 1: was there some type of conspiracy and roll those people 298 00:18:01,097 --> 00:18:03,017 Speaker 1: up as well. We'll know more than the next few days. 299 00:18:03,177 --> 00:18:06,697 Speaker 1: Buck James. Always appreciate the expertise in the perspective. Thanks 300 00:18:06,737 --> 00:18:11,297 Speaker 1: for joining us, Thanks for having me. With calls for 301 00:18:11,337 --> 00:18:13,897 Speaker 1: a stricter gun control likely to increase in the coming weeks. 302 00:18:13,977 --> 00:18:16,577 Speaker 1: The state of New York has passed a new measure 303 00:18:16,657 --> 00:18:19,697 Speaker 1: that essentially nullifies the Supreme Court's recent ruling on concealed 304 00:18:19,777 --> 00:18:22,097 Speaker 1: Harry permit. We'll have more on that with senior legal 305 00:18:22,137 --> 00:18:25,297 Speaker 1: correspondent at the Federalist Margot Cleveland. Coming up first, let's 306 00:18:25,337 --> 00:18:27,337 Speaker 1: talk about pro checking your most viable asset, your home. 307 00:18:27,377 --> 00:18:28,697 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this, but there was 308 00:18:28,737 --> 00:18:31,457 Speaker 1: a recent story about an Arizona real estate agent that 309 00:18:31,497 --> 00:18:33,217 Speaker 1: found the home she lived and was listed for sale. 310 00:18:33,257 --> 00:18:35,617 Speaker 1: The problem was he wasn't selling her home. She was 311 00:18:35,657 --> 00:18:38,697 Speaker 1: the victim of home title fraud, a devastating crime happening 312 00:18:38,737 --> 00:18:41,017 Speaker 1: all over the country. According to the experts at home 313 00:18:41,097 --> 00:18:43,897 Speaker 1: title lock, the crime is incredibly profitable and hard to detect. 314 00:18:44,217 --> 00:18:47,177 Speaker 1: An identity thief simply creates a fake title transfer for 315 00:18:47,217 --> 00:18:50,017 Speaker 1: your home and refiles as the new owner. Then he 316 00:18:50,057 --> 00:18:51,857 Speaker 1: can take out loans on your home or sell it. 317 00:18:52,217 --> 00:18:54,977 Speaker 1: Typical identity theft services don't cover you, and neither does 318 00:18:55,017 --> 00:18:58,817 Speaker 1: homeowners insurance. Home title lock does. Home title Lock puts 319 00:18:58,857 --> 00:19:01,497 Speaker 1: a barrier around your home's title the instant they detect 320 00:19:01,537 --> 00:19:04,017 Speaker 1: anyone tamper with their home's title, They help shut it 321 00:19:04,097 --> 00:19:05,977 Speaker 1: down and help get your home back in your name. 322 00:19:06,377 --> 00:19:08,177 Speaker 1: Here's what you should do. Go to home title loock 323 00:19:08,257 --> 00:19:11,137 Speaker 1: dot com and read the testimony from FBI agents and 324 00:19:11,257 --> 00:19:14,577 Speaker 1: government officials. Then register address to see if you're already 325 00:19:14,577 --> 00:19:16,297 Speaker 1: a victim and don't even know it. And when you 326 00:19:16,377 --> 00:19:18,257 Speaker 1: protect your home, tell them Buck sent you to get 327 00:19:18,337 --> 00:19:21,937 Speaker 1: thirty free days of protection. Home titlelock dot com. That's 328 00:19:22,017 --> 00:19:24,657 Speaker 1: home titlelock dot com will be right back with more. 329 00:19:25,057 --> 00:19:34,337 Speaker 1: Hold the line. Two weeks ago, the Supreme Court made 330 00:19:34,337 --> 00:19:37,777 Speaker 1: it clear that the Constitution guarantees law abiding citizens the 331 00:19:37,937 --> 00:19:40,897 Speaker 1: right to keep and bear arms for self defense, both 332 00:19:40,937 --> 00:19:43,417 Speaker 1: in their homes and in public. But on Friday, New 333 00:19:43,497 --> 00:19:45,737 Speaker 1: York Governor Kathy Hukill signed into law a new gun 334 00:19:45,817 --> 00:19:49,417 Speaker 1: control legislation that effectively nullifies the High courts pro Second 335 00:19:49,457 --> 00:19:54,537 Speaker 1: Amendment decision the Supreme Court's decisions were certainly setbacks, but 336 00:19:54,657 --> 00:19:57,777 Speaker 1: we view them as only temporary setbacks because I refuse, 337 00:19:57,937 --> 00:20:00,137 Speaker 1: as I've said from day one, I refuse to surrender 338 00:20:00,257 --> 00:20:03,017 Speaker 1: my right as governor to protect New Yorkers from gun 339 00:20:03,097 --> 00:20:06,497 Speaker 1: violence or any other form of harm. We're not going backwards. 340 00:20:06,937 --> 00:20:09,137 Speaker 1: They may think they can change our lives with the 341 00:20:09,177 --> 00:20:12,697 Speaker 1: stroke of a pen, but we have pens too. I 342 00:20:12,777 --> 00:20:16,297 Speaker 1: would say that Governor Hokel is rejecting federalism, but she's 343 00:20:16,417 --> 00:20:18,817 Speaker 1: a moron and doesn't know what federalism is. So there's that. 344 00:20:19,297 --> 00:20:23,897 Speaker 1: Jolie Outh reaction. Senior legal correspondent at The Federalist, Margot Cleveland. Margot, 345 00:20:23,937 --> 00:20:27,297 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us, Thanks for having me. Okay, 346 00:20:27,337 --> 00:20:29,537 Speaker 1: so first just tell us. I mean, you wrote an 347 00:20:29,577 --> 00:20:33,177 Speaker 1: in depth piece about New York's decision to tighten already 348 00:20:33,297 --> 00:20:37,737 Speaker 1: very strict and unconstitutional in fact gun laws. So what 349 00:20:37,977 --> 00:20:40,857 Speaker 1: have they done? This hasn't gotten a lot of media play, 350 00:20:41,017 --> 00:20:44,777 Speaker 1: yet what have they done in response? So, Buck, they 351 00:20:44,897 --> 00:20:49,297 Speaker 1: passed a law that actually did two very problematic things. First, 352 00:20:49,537 --> 00:20:53,897 Speaker 1: they put in very specific provisions for someone to apply 353 00:20:54,297 --> 00:20:58,617 Speaker 1: and obtain a concealed carey permit, and among other things, 354 00:20:58,697 --> 00:21:03,337 Speaker 1: that required very extensive training as well as background checks 355 00:21:03,537 --> 00:21:06,857 Speaker 1: and things along those lines, which is not the problem. 356 00:21:07,097 --> 00:21:10,697 Speaker 1: The problem is that it also requires the individuals to 357 00:21:10,857 --> 00:21:14,297 Speaker 1: turn over the names of any social media accounts they've 358 00:21:14,377 --> 00:21:17,657 Speaker 1: used in the last three years. And the problem there 359 00:21:17,937 --> 00:21:20,977 Speaker 1: is are they going to be looking at what an 360 00:21:21,017 --> 00:21:25,257 Speaker 1: individual's speech is to deny them the permit. Now, obviously, 361 00:21:25,537 --> 00:21:28,697 Speaker 1: when you have people on social media saying I'm going 362 00:21:28,777 --> 00:21:33,457 Speaker 1: to kill someone, things along those lines, completely legitimate issues. 363 00:21:34,017 --> 00:21:36,297 Speaker 1: But not if they're all of a sudden looking at 364 00:21:36,497 --> 00:21:38,617 Speaker 1: things such as we're going to fight back, we're not 365 00:21:38,737 --> 00:21:42,177 Speaker 1: going to election fraud happen, is that going to be 366 00:21:42,297 --> 00:21:45,697 Speaker 1: a basis to exclude it. So that's one part of 367 00:21:45,737 --> 00:21:49,297 Speaker 1: the opinion that's problematic. It sounds like they are going 368 00:21:49,337 --> 00:21:52,377 Speaker 1: to be looking at an individual's speech, and we're not 369 00:21:52,537 --> 00:21:57,177 Speaker 1: talking about violent speech threats, but just speech in general. 370 00:21:57,697 --> 00:22:01,697 Speaker 1: But the bigger problem is what the statute did. It 371 00:22:01,897 --> 00:22:07,217 Speaker 1: went through a through sub I think t sort of 372 00:22:07,497 --> 00:22:11,457 Speaker 1: places that it defined as sensitive places. I can I 373 00:22:11,497 --> 00:22:14,657 Speaker 1: Actually we have the Governor of Margo saying those sensitive 374 00:22:14,657 --> 00:22:16,297 Speaker 1: places I want to have your react to it. Go ahead, 375 00:22:17,457 --> 00:22:24,217 Speaker 1: shots ring out, flags come down, and nothing ever changes 376 00:22:25,937 --> 00:22:28,897 Speaker 1: except here in New York. In New York, we are 377 00:22:29,017 --> 00:22:33,057 Speaker 1: taking bold, strong action. We're tightening the red flag laws 378 00:22:33,297 --> 00:22:37,057 Speaker 1: to keep guns away from dangerous people, and we're raising 379 00:22:37,177 --> 00:22:40,977 Speaker 1: the age of semi automatic weapons so no eighteen year 380 00:22:41,017 --> 00:22:43,937 Speaker 1: old can walk in on their birthday and walk out 381 00:22:43,977 --> 00:22:48,457 Speaker 1: with an AAR fifteenth. Those days are over. Sorry, she 382 00:22:48,657 --> 00:22:50,577 Speaker 1: actually was going to list the places. That was a 383 00:22:50,617 --> 00:22:54,137 Speaker 1: different clip. So tell us about the places. Sure, So 384 00:22:54,417 --> 00:22:57,497 Speaker 1: the places are so broad it would have been easier 385 00:22:57,537 --> 00:23:00,457 Speaker 1: to say where you could carry a weapon, which it 386 00:23:00,657 --> 00:23:04,177 Speaker 1: sounds like is from your house walking down the street 387 00:23:04,377 --> 00:23:08,057 Speaker 1: to your car, because it excludes any places where the 388 00:23:08,137 --> 00:23:13,297 Speaker 1: public well come together. Could be in a protest, it 389 00:23:13,337 --> 00:23:16,497 Speaker 1: could be at Times Square, it could be at a 390 00:23:18,337 --> 00:23:22,297 Speaker 1: gathering to listen to, a music festival, a museum. It 391 00:23:22,497 --> 00:23:27,457 Speaker 1: goes through and details all of these places as sensitive places. 392 00:23:28,017 --> 00:23:31,017 Speaker 1: And the reason this is key is the Supreme Court 393 00:23:31,337 --> 00:23:34,737 Speaker 1: made clear the right to keep in bear arms is 394 00:23:35,297 --> 00:23:39,537 Speaker 1: bearing arms outside the home for self defense. And the 395 00:23:39,737 --> 00:23:45,537 Speaker 1: exception in the opinion spoke of sensitive places such as 396 00:23:46,017 --> 00:23:52,617 Speaker 1: polling places, the legislature, and schools. It didn't expand it 397 00:23:53,017 --> 00:23:56,137 Speaker 1: beyond that. And in fact, the Court said you can't 398 00:23:56,177 --> 00:23:59,257 Speaker 1: just say, someplace being populous is enough to make it 399 00:23:59,297 --> 00:24:03,137 Speaker 1: a sensitive place. So what New York did, and they 400 00:24:03,217 --> 00:24:06,897 Speaker 1: don't look like they're embarrassed by, they're actually proud, is 401 00:24:07,097 --> 00:24:09,497 Speaker 1: that they said, yeah, that's what the court said. But 402 00:24:09,657 --> 00:24:13,857 Speaker 1: work going to define sensitive places so broadly that the 403 00:24:14,057 --> 00:24:19,417 Speaker 1: right to bear arms in self defense is virtually a nullity, yea, Margot. 404 00:24:19,577 --> 00:24:23,897 Speaker 1: So how does this work in terms of possible legal challenges, 405 00:24:24,017 --> 00:24:27,737 Speaker 1: because it seems like what New York State's responses to 406 00:24:27,897 --> 00:24:31,137 Speaker 1: a constitutional ruling here is we're just going to find 407 00:24:31,257 --> 00:24:38,817 Speaker 1: a way through bureaucratic shenanigans essentially to achieve the same result, 408 00:24:38,897 --> 00:24:41,417 Speaker 1: which is to prevent people from legally being able. I mean, 409 00:24:41,457 --> 00:24:43,537 Speaker 1: that's clearly what they're trying to do, right. This isn't 410 00:24:43,577 --> 00:24:45,657 Speaker 1: stopping criminals who are buying guns out of the back 411 00:24:45,697 --> 00:24:48,817 Speaker 1: of cars illegally, because they're buying them illegally, So it 412 00:24:48,937 --> 00:24:51,217 Speaker 1: doesn't make any difference to those people. So for those 413 00:24:51,377 --> 00:24:53,257 Speaker 1: like me who are residents of New York. By the way, 414 00:24:53,297 --> 00:24:56,137 Speaker 1: so this is particularly interesting given that I think I'm 415 00:24:56,177 --> 00:24:59,457 Speaker 1: about to be applying for a concealed carry permit at 416 00:24:59,537 --> 00:25:03,417 Speaker 1: one point, is it no longer in keeping with the 417 00:25:04,497 --> 00:25:07,137 Speaker 1: law here and keeping with the response of this sort 418 00:25:07,137 --> 00:25:09,177 Speaker 1: of the decision of the Supreme Court, I mean, can 419 00:25:09,217 --> 00:25:11,617 Speaker 1: they say, yeah, sure, you have a right to conceal 420 00:25:11,737 --> 00:25:13,577 Speaker 1: car it's just going to cost you a ten thousand 421 00:25:13,617 --> 00:25:16,377 Speaker 1: dollar feet and you got away five years. I mean, 422 00:25:16,697 --> 00:25:19,937 Speaker 1: at some point, is it just obvious that they're refusing 423 00:25:20,017 --> 00:25:24,617 Speaker 1: to actually obey the constitution. So that point's already here, 424 00:25:25,097 --> 00:25:27,737 Speaker 1: and I would expect either this week or next week, 425 00:25:27,897 --> 00:25:30,737 Speaker 1: you're going to have what's called a facial challenge to 426 00:25:30,817 --> 00:25:34,457 Speaker 1: the law. And a facial challenge is where someone sues 427 00:25:34,537 --> 00:25:38,737 Speaker 1: and says, just the way it's written it is unconstitutional. 428 00:25:39,217 --> 00:25:41,337 Speaker 1: And I think you're going to see two arguments there. 429 00:25:41,417 --> 00:25:45,337 Speaker 1: You're going to see the argument that requiring me to 430 00:25:45,457 --> 00:25:49,297 Speaker 1: turn over my speech my social media, especially if if 431 00:25:49,417 --> 00:25:54,337 Speaker 1: someone doing it anonymously, violates my First Amendment rights, and 432 00:25:54,497 --> 00:25:57,177 Speaker 1: you can't force me to give up those rights to 433 00:25:57,337 --> 00:26:00,697 Speaker 1: exercise my Second Amendment rights right. And I think that 434 00:26:00,777 --> 00:26:03,977 Speaker 1: you're also going to have a facial challenge saying, on 435 00:26:04,137 --> 00:26:09,297 Speaker 1: its face, these sensitive places are not sensitive places. We 436 00:26:09,457 --> 00:26:13,697 Speaker 1: need the Core to declare that because otherwise I could 437 00:26:13,697 --> 00:26:17,097 Speaker 1: be subject to a felony, which is what the Court septs. 438 00:26:17,697 --> 00:26:21,497 Speaker 1: But you're also going to have as applied challenges. That 439 00:26:21,577 --> 00:26:24,097 Speaker 1: would be when someone like you goes in and applies 440 00:26:24,777 --> 00:26:27,497 Speaker 1: and you're waiting, and you're waiting and they say, oh, no, 441 00:26:27,657 --> 00:26:31,297 Speaker 1: we need ten thousand dollars and where we looked at 442 00:26:31,337 --> 00:26:33,737 Speaker 1: what you said online, we don't think you get it 443 00:26:33,897 --> 00:26:39,737 Speaker 1: because you said maybe something that seemed right wing. Then 444 00:26:39,897 --> 00:26:42,857 Speaker 1: you can sue and say they denied it based on 445 00:26:42,977 --> 00:26:46,697 Speaker 1: my speech, not based on my moral character, but based 446 00:26:46,737 --> 00:26:51,497 Speaker 1: on my viewpoint speech, or because it took so long 447 00:26:51,657 --> 00:26:54,177 Speaker 1: and it costs so much money, to other things that 448 00:26:54,257 --> 00:26:57,657 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court talked about in the opinion. They said, 449 00:26:57,777 --> 00:27:01,777 Speaker 1: it's fine to have these permitting schemes. What is not fine, though, 450 00:27:02,297 --> 00:27:06,137 Speaker 1: is if they have rules that are so stringent that 451 00:27:06,297 --> 00:27:10,857 Speaker 1: it prevents an ordinary American from exercise their right to 452 00:27:10,937 --> 00:27:14,057 Speaker 1: bear arms. And it's is it possible, Margot? It seems 453 00:27:14,097 --> 00:27:18,057 Speaker 1: like the game that some of these Democrat governors in 454 00:27:18,097 --> 00:27:20,577 Speaker 1: place like New York will play now is all right. 455 00:27:20,577 --> 00:27:24,617 Speaker 1: They'll just keep on coming up with new unconstitutional restrictions 456 00:27:24,697 --> 00:27:27,257 Speaker 1: and force it through force the challenge. Force the challenge, 457 00:27:27,457 --> 00:27:29,297 Speaker 1: I mean, can a governor be held in content by 458 00:27:29,297 --> 00:27:32,057 Speaker 1: a federal Court, like, I just wonder, is there any 459 00:27:32,257 --> 00:27:34,617 Speaker 1: is there any mechanism here to protect people from just 460 00:27:35,017 --> 00:27:39,217 Speaker 1: the continued bad faith violation of state law or a 461 00:27:39,337 --> 00:27:44,417 Speaker 1: federal law rather by a state governor. Not really that's 462 00:27:44,457 --> 00:27:46,937 Speaker 1: an answer. There isn't. And in fact, you make a 463 00:27:47,057 --> 00:27:49,657 Speaker 1: great point is what's going to happen is it's going 464 00:27:49,737 --> 00:27:52,817 Speaker 1: to start with litigation and it will go up to 465 00:27:53,297 --> 00:27:55,937 Speaker 1: the Second Circuit Court of Appeals and then up to 466 00:27:56,057 --> 00:27:59,737 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. If the Second Circuit okays it, Supreme 467 00:27:59,817 --> 00:28:01,977 Speaker 1: Court might decide, you know what, we're not going to 468 00:28:02,057 --> 00:28:04,817 Speaker 1: talk about this for a while. It was almost twenty 469 00:28:04,937 --> 00:28:07,057 Speaker 1: years or maybe a little over twenty years since they 470 00:28:07,137 --> 00:28:10,417 Speaker 1: took their last Second Amendment case. The good thing, at 471 00:28:10,497 --> 00:28:13,737 Speaker 1: least with the latest ruling by the Supreme Court was 472 00:28:14,217 --> 00:28:17,297 Speaker 1: it gave a lot of guidance. And that's why when 473 00:28:17,337 --> 00:28:19,977 Speaker 1: I did my analysis, I could say, hey, this is 474 00:28:20,017 --> 00:28:23,577 Speaker 1: what the Supreme Court said, and this is definitely crossing 475 00:28:23,657 --> 00:28:27,337 Speaker 1: the line when you define sensitive places that broadly. But 476 00:28:27,577 --> 00:28:31,577 Speaker 1: the short answers know that the state legislative branches and 477 00:28:31,617 --> 00:28:34,337 Speaker 1: the governors they can pretty much just thumb their nose 478 00:28:34,497 --> 00:28:38,097 Speaker 1: at the law and the consequence is just going to 479 00:28:38,137 --> 00:28:42,217 Speaker 1: be mortal litigation. Amazing, Margot, great work on this, Thanks 480 00:28:42,217 --> 00:28:47,297 Speaker 1: for being with us, Thanks so much. Fame. Psychologist Jordan 481 00:28:47,377 --> 00:28:50,137 Speaker 1: Peterson is refusing to back down after being suspended from 482 00:28:50,137 --> 00:28:54,937 Speaker 1: Twitter for mis gendering transactor Elliott Page. Author and commist 483 00:28:55,017 --> 00:28:57,257 Speaker 1: David Marcus joins us to give his take on the controversy. 484 00:28:57,337 --> 00:29:06,777 Speaker 1: When we come back, Twitter is dropping the censorship hammer 485 00:29:06,857 --> 00:29:11,937 Speaker 1: once again. Latest victim is psychologist Jordan Peterson, who was 486 00:29:12,417 --> 00:29:16,177 Speaker 1: recently suspended from the platform for tweeting remember when pride 487 00:29:16,337 --> 00:29:19,337 Speaker 1: was a sin and Ellen Page just had her breast 488 00:29:19,417 --> 00:29:23,417 Speaker 1: removed by a criminal physician. Question Mark now struck in 489 00:29:23,457 --> 00:29:25,697 Speaker 1: a battle with Twitter over his suspended account. The only 490 00:29:25,737 --> 00:29:28,697 Speaker 1: way he's allowed back on the platform is to acknowledge 491 00:29:28,737 --> 00:29:32,977 Speaker 1: what he tweeted was against the Twitter guidelines, and he says, 492 00:29:34,017 --> 00:29:38,817 Speaker 1: no bleeping way, no bloody way, as Jordan Peterson would say, 493 00:29:39,097 --> 00:29:43,017 Speaker 1: Jodian I to discuss authored columns David Marcus, David, what's 494 00:29:43,097 --> 00:29:46,577 Speaker 1: up man doing? Well? Buck? I like when he like 495 00:29:46,777 --> 00:29:49,337 Speaker 1: car says a little bit too. Yeah, you know, I 496 00:29:50,177 --> 00:29:53,057 Speaker 1: know that Canadians say bloody, but apparently Jordan Peterson says 497 00:29:53,057 --> 00:29:56,897 Speaker 1: it all the time about Canada. Ay this is from 498 00:29:56,977 --> 00:30:00,377 Speaker 1: your piece in the Daily Wire. There are many myself included, 499 00:30:00,657 --> 00:30:04,977 Speaker 1: who have sprung themselves from Twitter jail by just deleting 500 00:30:05,017 --> 00:30:07,897 Speaker 1: the tweets. So the logic here, being a Twitter is 501 00:30:07,937 --> 00:30:10,337 Speaker 1: so clearly engross the acting and bad faith, choosing only 502 00:30:10,457 --> 00:30:14,657 Speaker 1: one side to punish. So yeah, I mean, this is 503 00:30:14,697 --> 00:30:18,937 Speaker 1: what they do, right, bend the knee or you're off. Yeah, 504 00:30:19,017 --> 00:30:20,977 Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm sure you're a surprised buck to 505 00:30:21,057 --> 00:30:25,337 Speaker 1: know that I've been suspended from Twitter for maybe intemperate 506 00:30:26,057 --> 00:30:29,697 Speaker 1: tweets once or twice. Yeah, that's my approach. My attitude 507 00:30:29,777 --> 00:30:31,857 Speaker 1: is I'll delete the tweet, I'll spend my time in 508 00:30:32,417 --> 00:30:35,057 Speaker 1: Twitter jail like it's good fellas, and jump back on 509 00:30:35,137 --> 00:30:38,537 Speaker 1: the platform because these people clearly aren't acting in good faith. 510 00:30:38,817 --> 00:30:40,937 Speaker 1: So when I saw the video of Peterson saying he 511 00:30:40,977 --> 00:30:44,217 Speaker 1: would rather die than do that, I was interested, and 512 00:30:44,297 --> 00:30:46,497 Speaker 1: I thought about it, and I realized it makes perfect 513 00:30:46,577 --> 00:30:50,897 Speaker 1: sense because this guy's whole philosophy that has really helped 514 00:30:51,017 --> 00:30:53,697 Speaker 1: millions of people around the world is rooted in the 515 00:30:53,777 --> 00:30:57,177 Speaker 1: concept of radical truth, that what you say has to 516 00:30:57,297 --> 00:30:59,497 Speaker 1: be honest, not just for the benefit of the person 517 00:30:59,577 --> 00:31:02,137 Speaker 1: that you're talking to. Although that too, but for your 518 00:31:02,177 --> 00:31:05,857 Speaker 1: own benefit, right. This is why he won't use people's pronouns, 519 00:31:05,937 --> 00:31:08,617 Speaker 1: and this is why he will never delete that tweet. 520 00:31:09,377 --> 00:31:12,817 Speaker 1: And although I don't share his philosophical perspective, I have 521 00:31:12,897 --> 00:31:14,937 Speaker 1: a hell of a lot of respect for it. By 522 00:31:14,937 --> 00:31:18,657 Speaker 1: the way, you mentioned this, he's drawing quite a line 523 00:31:18,697 --> 00:31:20,937 Speaker 1: in the sand on this one. This is doctor Jordan 524 00:31:21,017 --> 00:31:25,097 Speaker 1: Peterson telling everybody over his dead body that tweet gets eleted. Watch. 525 00:31:26,097 --> 00:31:31,097 Speaker 1: I've essentially been banned from Twitter as a consequence. I 526 00:31:31,297 --> 00:31:37,017 Speaker 1: say banned, although technically I have been suspended, but the 527 00:31:37,137 --> 00:31:40,777 Speaker 1: suspension will not be lifted unless I delete the hateful 528 00:31:40,857 --> 00:31:43,857 Speaker 1: tweet in question, and I would rather die than do that, 529 00:31:45,297 --> 00:31:47,697 Speaker 1: and hopefully it will not come to that, although who 530 00:31:47,777 --> 00:31:53,017 Speaker 1: the hell knows. In these increasingly strange days, indeed, who 531 00:31:53,057 --> 00:31:56,697 Speaker 1: the hell knows, it feels like it does keep getting crazier. 532 00:31:56,777 --> 00:31:58,297 Speaker 1: I think there was a little bit of a moment 533 00:31:58,377 --> 00:32:03,457 Speaker 1: here where Elon must it seemed, put a little bit 534 00:32:03,497 --> 00:32:07,097 Speaker 1: of fear into the Twitter Rottie. But they are back 535 00:32:07,177 --> 00:32:09,137 Speaker 1: at their old games, it seems, I mean, there is 536 00:32:09,177 --> 00:32:11,977 Speaker 1: Elon I'm still hoping buys Twitter and manages to turn 537 00:32:12,017 --> 00:32:14,617 Speaker 1: it into a platform for the free exchange of ideas. 538 00:32:14,657 --> 00:32:17,697 Speaker 1: But one thing I found fascinating about the Jordan Peterson 539 00:32:17,777 --> 00:32:22,097 Speaker 1: situation here is it's not even clear to me what, 540 00:32:22,417 --> 00:32:24,617 Speaker 1: like was this a dead naming issue? Like well, like 541 00:32:24,777 --> 00:32:27,257 Speaker 1: even in the crazy rules that Twitter uses. I was 542 00:32:27,257 --> 00:32:29,657 Speaker 1: sitting to say, wait, why was he suspended for this one? 543 00:32:29,777 --> 00:32:31,897 Speaker 1: Like I've said worse stuff than that on Twitter? I 544 00:32:31,977 --> 00:32:35,937 Speaker 1: think No, I mean, I have no idea. One of 545 00:32:36,017 --> 00:32:39,497 Speaker 1: my Twitter suspensions was it was right after Trump took 546 00:32:39,537 --> 00:32:41,977 Speaker 1: out Suleimani and there was all this talk about, oh no, 547 00:32:42,097 --> 00:32:44,537 Speaker 1: the Iranians are going to attack New York and I 548 00:32:44,617 --> 00:32:47,057 Speaker 1: tweeted something to the effect of if they touched New 549 00:32:47,137 --> 00:32:49,737 Speaker 1: York will turn it into a parking lot. And I 550 00:32:49,897 --> 00:32:53,057 Speaker 1: was suspended, I guess for insulting the nation of Iran. 551 00:32:53,217 --> 00:32:56,977 Speaker 1: I don't know, Buck. These aren't rules, right, there's no rules. 552 00:32:57,417 --> 00:33:01,057 Speaker 1: There's just angry twenty somethings with colorful hair and pronouns 553 00:33:01,097 --> 00:33:03,297 Speaker 1: in their bios who want to control your life. I mean, 554 00:33:03,377 --> 00:33:07,177 Speaker 1: that's all there is. That's the that's the entire moderation process. 555 00:33:07,497 --> 00:33:10,177 Speaker 1: That's why Donald Trump can't have a Twitter account, and 556 00:33:10,297 --> 00:33:12,777 Speaker 1: the eyetola can. I mean, you try to figure it 557 00:33:12,777 --> 00:33:15,417 Speaker 1: out because I can. You know, Jordan Peterson put out 558 00:33:15,417 --> 00:33:17,177 Speaker 1: a statement on the suspension as well. He said, there 559 00:33:17,177 --> 00:33:19,137 Speaker 1: are This is about the rules issue. There are no 560 00:33:19,297 --> 00:33:21,217 Speaker 1: rules on Twitter except don't do what we don't like. 561 00:33:21,417 --> 00:33:24,617 Speaker 1: Today they are always applied post hoc by algorithms and 562 00:33:24,697 --> 00:33:27,657 Speaker 1: idiots bent on maintaining their woke superiority. I just think 563 00:33:27,697 --> 00:33:31,537 Speaker 1: it is worth everyone noting because so much of now 564 00:33:31,577 --> 00:33:34,577 Speaker 1: our communication, but really also national perception, at least in 565 00:33:34,617 --> 00:33:36,937 Speaker 1: the news world and news cycles, is driven by these 566 00:33:37,017 --> 00:33:40,457 Speaker 1: social media platforms that they did used to claim for 567 00:33:40,697 --> 00:33:46,217 Speaker 1: years that there was no ideological bias. It was just algorithms, man, 568 00:33:46,617 --> 00:33:49,017 Speaker 1: It's just the machine that you can't even see with 569 00:33:49,137 --> 00:33:52,657 Speaker 1: all the fancy numbers that that we're doing this. And 570 00:33:53,097 --> 00:33:55,657 Speaker 1: it wasn't like they were going after conservatives and we 571 00:33:55,777 --> 00:33:58,017 Speaker 1: were crazy for saying they were targeting us. I remember 572 00:33:58,057 --> 00:34:00,777 Speaker 1: this twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen. If you said it, oh 573 00:34:00,857 --> 00:34:04,057 Speaker 1: you're conspiracy, there's now they just straight up tell you, yeah, 574 00:34:04,097 --> 00:34:07,697 Speaker 1: that's right, Ben the Nee or else peasant, No, I 575 00:34:07,777 --> 00:34:11,937 Speaker 1: think that's right. And a big problem with this larger 576 00:34:12,017 --> 00:34:15,297 Speaker 1: than just the Peterson situation or the trans issue. I mean, 577 00:34:15,777 --> 00:34:18,417 Speaker 1: you go back to COVID, and you look at everything 578 00:34:18,537 --> 00:34:22,257 Speaker 1: that was censored and deleted and and taken offline, not 579 00:34:22,417 --> 00:34:26,577 Speaker 1: just by social media, but by our news media. We unfortunately, 580 00:34:26,617 --> 00:34:29,577 Speaker 1: at this point, have a historical record of the period 581 00:34:29,617 --> 00:34:34,177 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty and twenty twenty one that is utterly biased, 582 00:34:34,897 --> 00:34:39,777 Speaker 1: utterly incomplete, often completely inaccurate. And twenty years from now, 583 00:34:40,217 --> 00:34:43,097 Speaker 1: when students and historians go back to study this period, 584 00:34:43,457 --> 00:34:47,057 Speaker 1: the most consequential thing you have is the contemporaneous accounts. Right, 585 00:34:47,057 --> 00:34:48,537 Speaker 1: They're going to be going to the New York Times, 586 00:34:48,577 --> 00:34:50,777 Speaker 1: They're going to be going to the Washington Post and 587 00:34:50,937 --> 00:34:54,497 Speaker 1: Twitter and Facebook, and they're going to be seeing wise 588 00:34:55,257 --> 00:34:56,817 Speaker 1: And I don't know what we do about it. I 589 00:34:56,817 --> 00:35:00,817 Speaker 1: don't know. I really like this this fellow. I've had 590 00:35:00,897 --> 00:35:04,657 Speaker 1: him on my shows a few times. Zubie I'm sure 591 00:35:04,737 --> 00:35:07,377 Speaker 1: you're familiar with Zubie Um he put out does does 592 00:35:07,497 --> 00:35:09,777 Speaker 1: great work. I mean, I'm like, legitimately a fan of 593 00:35:09,817 --> 00:35:11,737 Speaker 1: a out of the stuff that he puts out. He 594 00:35:11,977 --> 00:35:14,457 Speaker 1: wrote that a society that punishes people who tell the 595 00:35:14,577 --> 00:35:17,857 Speaker 1: truth and rewards those who lie is not sustainable in 596 00:35:17,897 --> 00:35:20,817 Speaker 1: the long term. I think that's where we are now 597 00:35:20,857 --> 00:35:23,857 Speaker 1: as a culture. I think the people are punished for 598 00:35:23,937 --> 00:35:26,817 Speaker 1: telling the truth and rewarded for telling lies. And that 599 00:35:27,057 --> 00:35:28,857 Speaker 1: is not a bug, it is a feature. This is 600 00:35:28,897 --> 00:35:32,537 Speaker 1: almost a desired a desired status by those who are 601 00:35:32,537 --> 00:35:36,857 Speaker 1: in positions of power to direct the conversation. Yeah, and 602 00:35:36,977 --> 00:35:40,697 Speaker 1: it's and it's why I'm sympathetic to Peterson's position. And 603 00:35:40,937 --> 00:35:43,057 Speaker 1: you know, a friend of mine who's who I worked with, 604 00:35:43,137 --> 00:35:45,897 Speaker 1: the Federalist who's still there, John Davidson, is also banned 605 00:35:45,937 --> 00:35:48,937 Speaker 1: from Twitter right now. He does, honestly some of the 606 00:35:49,097 --> 00:35:52,177 Speaker 1: best reporting from the border. He knows it, you know, 607 00:35:52,257 --> 00:35:55,377 Speaker 1: he lives there, and he's in the same boat. He 608 00:35:55,457 --> 00:35:59,737 Speaker 1: won't delete it. I respect the choice. I think it's 609 00:35:59,777 --> 00:36:04,297 Speaker 1: a hard choice. But yeah, as to Zoobie's point, there's 610 00:36:04,337 --> 00:36:07,257 Speaker 1: something to be said for I'm not I'm not gonna lie, 611 00:36:07,937 --> 00:36:09,737 Speaker 1: and if that means I can't tweet, I can't tweet, 612 00:36:10,057 --> 00:36:11,737 Speaker 1: you know. And I've been talking about this. You remember 613 00:36:11,737 --> 00:36:15,057 Speaker 1: the I think it was was in Souls and Eatson's 614 00:36:15,617 --> 00:36:19,457 Speaker 1: addressed to Harvard University where he said live not by lies, 615 00:36:20,097 --> 00:36:22,897 Speaker 1: and that was really the theme of the speech. And 616 00:36:23,337 --> 00:36:25,577 Speaker 1: what we see increasingly is now we are a society 617 00:36:25,697 --> 00:36:30,417 Speaker 1: where wokeness and Therefore the Democrat id the the center 618 00:36:30,497 --> 00:36:34,377 Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party these days demand that you live 619 00:36:34,457 --> 00:36:36,297 Speaker 1: by lies. Actually, you know, men or women, women or 620 00:36:36,337 --> 00:36:38,617 Speaker 1: men up as down, down as up. I mean, this 621 00:36:38,897 --> 00:36:43,017 Speaker 1: is where we are actually as a society. Yeah, I mean, 622 00:36:43,137 --> 00:36:46,377 Speaker 1: I think that's exactly right. And I think everyone does 623 00:36:46,497 --> 00:36:49,937 Speaker 1: have to draw their lines. I think, you know, in 624 00:36:50,057 --> 00:36:52,457 Speaker 1: the piece I mentioned, there's polling that shows that Americans 625 00:36:52,497 --> 00:36:54,937 Speaker 1: are actually moving away from the idea that men can 626 00:36:55,017 --> 00:36:59,417 Speaker 1: become women. There's there's been this shift in the direction 627 00:36:59,537 --> 00:37:03,217 Speaker 1: of biological sex as determining gender. But that same poll 628 00:37:03,297 --> 00:37:06,097 Speaker 1: shows that that Americans really want to be nice to people, right, 629 00:37:06,137 --> 00:37:09,497 Speaker 1: They want to be kind, They don't want to be jerkes. Um, 630 00:37:09,577 --> 00:37:11,497 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, we might be getting to the 631 00:37:11,577 --> 00:37:14,217 Speaker 1: point where we have to risk being a jerk every 632 00:37:14,257 --> 00:37:16,697 Speaker 1: once in a while just to tell the truth. I 633 00:37:16,857 --> 00:37:18,257 Speaker 1: think that is where we are, by the way, and 634 00:37:18,297 --> 00:37:21,297 Speaker 1: I do believe that the left actually exploits the innate 635 00:37:21,457 --> 00:37:24,257 Speaker 1: kindness and decency of the American people on a regular 636 00:37:24,297 --> 00:37:28,377 Speaker 1: basis to get through the agenda. Essentially, go along with this, 637 00:37:28,697 --> 00:37:32,657 Speaker 1: just be polite to people, We'll just be polite to people. 638 00:37:32,777 --> 00:37:37,497 Speaker 1: Very quickly turns into celebrate drag Queen Story Hour with 639 00:37:38,057 --> 00:37:43,777 Speaker 1: you know, five year olds having grown men dancing in 640 00:37:43,857 --> 00:37:47,817 Speaker 1: their faces, you know, provocatively, like this is what ends 641 00:37:47,857 --> 00:37:50,017 Speaker 1: up happening with. Just be polite to people, so I 642 00:37:50,057 --> 00:37:52,817 Speaker 1: think people have had enough or else you're a bigot. Yeah, 643 00:37:52,897 --> 00:37:55,537 Speaker 1: or else you're a bigot, exactly, David always incifu, Matt, 644 00:37:55,537 --> 00:38:00,977 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. Comedian Samantha b used a 645 00:38:01,097 --> 00:38:04,937 Speaker 1: recent monologue to incite pro abortion activists to harass Supreme 646 00:38:04,977 --> 00:38:07,017 Speaker 1: Court justices. We'll have the video for you in tonight's 647 00:38:07,017 --> 00:38:17,017 Speaker 1: Wickets Stay with Us. Samantha b incites the mob against 648 00:38:17,057 --> 00:38:22,337 Speaker 1: conservative Supreme Court justices, and Congresswoman Ilhan Omar of the 649 00:38:22,577 --> 00:38:25,857 Speaker 1: Squad got an unpleasant reception at a recent concert in 650 00:38:25,977 --> 00:38:28,857 Speaker 1: her home state. We have those stories and more in 651 00:38:29,017 --> 00:38:31,337 Speaker 1: quick Hits. Let's dive into it. Look, the lives are 652 00:38:31,337 --> 00:38:37,097 Speaker 1: not handling the restoration of the Supreme Court to a 653 00:38:38,137 --> 00:38:43,017 Speaker 1: deliberative body based upon constitutionalism instead of what they had had, 654 00:38:43,217 --> 00:38:46,777 Speaker 1: which is a left wing super legislature that just decides 655 00:38:46,897 --> 00:38:50,017 Speaker 1: what is best for people and then puts it from 656 00:38:50,297 --> 00:38:53,097 Speaker 1: drops it from on high like some eat it from 657 00:38:53,137 --> 00:38:55,937 Speaker 1: the heavens, or some people would suggests from another place 658 00:38:56,017 --> 00:39:00,017 Speaker 1: given some of the outcomes. So that's what's going on here, 659 00:39:00,577 --> 00:39:03,897 Speaker 1: and they're very upset. They're irrational, Their arguments don't hold up, 660 00:39:03,897 --> 00:39:08,737 Speaker 1: their arguments don't actually make much sense. Here is Samantha Bee, though, 661 00:39:08,977 --> 00:39:13,057 Speaker 1: trying to use the comedy platform. She's a comedian, aha 662 00:39:13,857 --> 00:39:19,497 Speaker 1: comedy platform. She has to call for the harassment of 663 00:39:19,857 --> 00:39:24,337 Speaker 1: Justice Alito for example. Why I can't describe how painful 664 00:39:24,377 --> 00:39:26,137 Speaker 1: it is to be here now in a place where 665 00:39:26,177 --> 00:39:29,297 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court has the power to erase fifty years 666 00:39:29,377 --> 00:39:32,737 Speaker 1: of constitutional law. Make no mistake, this is not where 667 00:39:32,737 --> 00:39:35,497 Speaker 1: it ends. Conservatives will not rest until they have come 668 00:39:35,577 --> 00:39:37,857 Speaker 1: for all of our rights. Everything we have fought for 669 00:39:38,017 --> 00:39:40,777 Speaker 1: could be lost unless we take it back. It's not 670 00:39:41,137 --> 00:39:44,417 Speaker 1: just about voting in November. It's about doing everything in 671 00:39:44,497 --> 00:39:47,737 Speaker 1: our power to protect and help vulnerable people access abortion 672 00:39:47,817 --> 00:39:51,017 Speaker 1: across state lines. And we have to raise hell in 673 00:39:51,137 --> 00:39:55,217 Speaker 1: our cities. In Washington, in every restaurant, Justice Alito eats 674 00:39:55,257 --> 00:39:57,977 Speaker 1: at for the rest of his life. Because if Republicans 675 00:39:58,017 --> 00:40:00,777 Speaker 1: have made our lives hell, it's time to return the 676 00:40:00,857 --> 00:40:04,497 Speaker 1: favor harass Supreme Court justices. This is what she's saying. 677 00:40:04,857 --> 00:40:06,297 Speaker 1: And I know if she's called out on that. She's 678 00:40:06,297 --> 00:40:07,937 Speaker 1: they're always just kidding. Did she seem like she was 679 00:40:08,017 --> 00:40:10,497 Speaker 1: kidding there and seeing she was getting it all to me? 680 00:40:10,697 --> 00:40:14,017 Speaker 1: But she's classless and unfunny and dumb on top of 681 00:40:14,097 --> 00:40:16,057 Speaker 1: it all, doesn't really know what the hell she's talking about. 682 00:40:16,097 --> 00:40:19,137 Speaker 1: But that's pretty standard these days, where the talking heads, 683 00:40:19,217 --> 00:40:25,817 Speaker 1: the celebrities and various entertainers and influencers who are weighing 684 00:40:25,897 --> 00:40:28,017 Speaker 1: in on constitutional law. Do you think any of them 685 00:40:28,057 --> 00:40:31,457 Speaker 1: have even read the Alito decision that overturned Row. Do 686 00:40:31,537 --> 00:40:33,577 Speaker 1: you think a single one of them even read the 687 00:40:33,657 --> 00:40:36,777 Speaker 1: first page? Now, of course not. They just have emotions 688 00:40:36,857 --> 00:40:43,537 Speaker 1: and feelings, shouting, yelling things, That's what they have. And 689 00:40:43,577 --> 00:40:45,937 Speaker 1: then there are other lives out there who are concerned 690 00:40:45,977 --> 00:40:50,577 Speaker 1: about American flags apparently, and how they can trigger people. Watch. 691 00:40:51,337 --> 00:40:54,977 Speaker 1: On July fourth, me and my family were celebrating and 692 00:40:55,297 --> 00:40:58,457 Speaker 1: shooting all fireworks and a jeep was coming down the streets, 693 00:40:58,457 --> 00:41:01,017 Speaker 1: so we had to get out of the street. And 694 00:41:02,497 --> 00:41:04,937 Speaker 1: as the jeep went by, it had two American flags 695 00:41:05,017 --> 00:41:08,977 Speaker 1: flying high, and in the South that typically means trumplicants 696 00:41:09,057 --> 00:41:15,217 Speaker 1: and supporters and all that wonderful. But I looked at 697 00:41:15,257 --> 00:41:17,977 Speaker 1: my neighbor, and I asked her if she got a 698 00:41:18,137 --> 00:41:20,897 Speaker 1: knot in her stomach when she saw the flag now, 699 00:41:21,177 --> 00:41:25,457 Speaker 1: and she said, yes, she did. And I just attribute 700 00:41:25,497 --> 00:41:29,417 Speaker 1: that to the insurrection. I attribute that to all the 701 00:41:30,057 --> 00:41:36,017 Speaker 1: proud boy and white supremacist waving the flag high and 702 00:41:36,977 --> 00:41:43,497 Speaker 1: just the Trump cards' Oh you just see her, You're like, 703 00:41:43,577 --> 00:41:46,737 Speaker 1: she's just such a miserable cat lady. It's so obvious, 704 00:41:46,937 --> 00:41:52,097 Speaker 1: you know, just so empty inside. I feel badly for her, 705 00:41:52,177 --> 00:41:55,657 Speaker 1: while it is also amusing see somebody who is scared 706 00:41:55,737 --> 00:41:59,457 Speaker 1: of the American flag in lotto more far left wing 707 00:41:59,537 --> 00:42:02,617 Speaker 1: number of Congress, of the so called squad. As well, 708 00:42:03,297 --> 00:42:05,897 Speaker 1: she didn't get the reception she was expecting at a 709 00:42:05,937 --> 00:42:25,937 Speaker 1: concert in Minnesota over the weekend. Watch this one evening. Okay, 710 00:42:42,137 --> 00:42:45,617 Speaker 1: I don't even know why they are buoying her, but 711 00:42:47,617 --> 00:42:53,017 Speaker 1: somebody whose political positions deserve getting booed, so I guess 712 00:42:53,057 --> 00:42:54,697 Speaker 1: it's something love about doing. Do we even know why 713 00:42:54,737 --> 00:42:56,217 Speaker 1: were they booing her? Guys, I don't even know what 714 00:42:56,337 --> 00:42:58,857 Speaker 1: was that was that all about? Just oh, because she's 715 00:42:58,897 --> 00:43:01,217 Speaker 1: just awful? Oh okay, well, you know, in that case, 716 00:43:01,297 --> 00:43:04,097 Speaker 1: looks like Minnesota's waking up because she is awful, there 717 00:43:04,177 --> 00:43:06,737 Speaker 1: you go. Oh good job Minnesota. Maybe stop electing so 718 00:43:06,777 --> 00:43:09,457 Speaker 1: many Democrats that ruin everything for everybody. Just an idea 719 00:43:10,097 --> 00:43:12,137 Speaker 1: that's ever Tonight told the line the no Spinoos with 720 00:43:12,337 --> 00:43:13,977 Speaker 1: Bill O'Reilly is next. She'll tie