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Swando's idiots will believe in the analytics. 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:38.320 This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander Gone Good. 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:40.560 Monday Morning Tude is a numbers game at VS and 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:45.000 Dsports Betting Network, Visa dot Com game plus iHeartRadio YouTube TV. 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:47.480 However you take it is s that we appreciated. It's 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:51.080 kill Alexander, it is Kelly Bidlin. This is what we 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.680 do on Mondays, the interactive game that h well. I 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.080 hope you participate in trying to extract some value from 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.560 the upcoming week's NFL lines, and in the process we 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:00.440 look back at the week gone by. We have to 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.120 do that part yeah, we have to go. 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:05.679 We have to You're pretty good at. 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:08.640 So we have to. Well, we'll get to all the games. 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.880 Is how we do this first the way Survivors of all. Hello, Kelly, Billy, 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:12.200 how are you. 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:14.400 Yeah, I'm doing well. How are you? I'm great? 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.319 Thank you know, not great, but you know getting through it. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:21.200 Here's the thing, uh, Survivor. We always start with Survivor. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:25.080 On a Monday, we are down. We are down to 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:31.840 fifty four entries. Fifty four remaining entries, thirty three knocked out. 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.319 We went. We came into this week with ninety nine 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:37.800 three got knocked out by the Steelers on Thursday. That 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:42.840 brought it down to ninety six. Then somebody, and I 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:47.480 hope this person's okay, oh gosh y failed to submit 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.040 what at the time what at the time was about 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:55.360 a one hundred and fifty thousand dollars intrinsic value entry. 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:59.800 Then yesterday, thirty three go down with the Commis eight 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:04.400 the Texans. We are down to fifty four fifty four 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:08.160 remain out of fourteen thousand, two hundred and sixty six. 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.160 That's ninety nine points sixty two percent gone. Kelly, if 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.400 you're scoring at home, intrinsic value of the remaining fifty 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:19.480 four entries. Each of the remaining fifty four two hundred 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:23.440 sixty four thousand, one hundred and eighty five dollars and 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.760 nineteen cents over a quarter of a million dollars per 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:31.520 entry of the remaining circus survivor entries the remaining fifty 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.600 four and our buddy Jake from Profitex is one of them. 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.160 He'll be on the show later this week. Nice, he 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.840 texted me yesterday he goes in. Then there were fifty four. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:43.760 I was like, yes, there are I like because Jake 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.320 was he was very, he was very he was confident, 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:50.960 but not cocky. I thought he was a perfect perfect yes, yeah, yeah, 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:52.760 And like you need a mix of that, You need 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.520 a mix of humiliate humility, because we talk about it 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.720 all the time where this is come on, it's you 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.240 need a little bit of luck to get you know, 0:02:59.320 --> 0:02:59.840 to get through a. 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:00.639 Sea like this. 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:02.800 You do, but you need some skill to plan it 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:03.280 out as well. 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.000 The thing that I the think that I appreciate about 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.920 his his pitch perfectness on this too is this was 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.359 a weird year, obviously, because the carnage of the first 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:12.840 five weeks is unprecedented. By the way, We've never gone 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:16.079 into Thanksgiving where the value of each entry, if each 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:19.440 entry is over a quarter of a million into Thanksgiving, 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.280 that's never happened before. But the thing that I appreciate 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:25.480 about his entry the most is he started with one. 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.360 It's the only one. By the way, only four people 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.240 have two entries left. Nobody has more than two. So 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.600 forty six of the remaining fifty four have one to 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.400 four people have two left. That's how you get to 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.400 fifty four. And this was a year that beyond the 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:45.240 carnage of the first five weeks, people played it differently. 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.080 It wasn't as fun in many cases because a lot 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.000 of people from the beginning just did the monetization thing 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.720 from like really early on. So they're buying percentages, they're 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.880 selling percentages, so that the joy of this is that 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.080 one person that goes coast to coast with one of 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:00.440 those guys. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.320 So I love it too. Also, I think it takes 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.800 away now that we're down to nobody has more than two, 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:08.720 takes away some of the gamesmanship possibilities that guys can plays. 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:10.640 Now it's kind of just go out there and win it, right, 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.120 It's kind of more just basic like that. You're right, 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.720 we get we get all these marketplaces now to buy 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.120 and sell stuff. Like you keep reading the implied value 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.320 every week and I'm like, I'd have half of that. 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.600 I would have sold fifty four percent or whatever already. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.320 Well, we will have them on before Thanksgiving. Hopefully he 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.479 gets through if he's our guy. But good luck to 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:31.840 all who are still left of the fifty four. By 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:33.960 the way, there was one person who had six entries 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.919 heading into this past weekend, four of which were on 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:40.760 the commis. Yeah, thanks to Tony Farmer courtesy of the 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.000 Survivor outlets for giving us those debts. All right, it's 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:53.279 time for guessing lines Week thirteen in the National Football League. 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.480 Oh yeah, Now. 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:57.680 That might be the first time in the history of 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.160 Guessing lines where I've ever like remembered the intro when 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:00.880 it hit perfectly. 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:02.200 Dude, don't freaking up. 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:03.800 You did a great job, man, Thank you very much. 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:05.800 I just want to point out when I do things 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:06.719 right on the show. 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.440 After you've been there before. Manute, see what I just did. 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:12.400 I'm gonna do that every time. See see what I 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:12.720 just did. 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.200 Now we'll see on Wednesday, we'll check with a big 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:18.600 one on Wednesday. All right, Thursday morning, you wake up, 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.200 you get some Numbers game going. Man, Then thirty minutes 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:23.280 after we're done. 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:24.880 We should we should point this out. Oh I'm sorry, 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:25.839 forty Fisher sentence. 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:27.880 I'm just gonna go to the game. You'll get Oh. 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:29.360 No, I was gonna say, we will be here on. 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.159 We will be here, We will be here Thursday, we 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.120 will be here Friday. Thirty minutes after a Numbers game, 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:35.800 you get Bears out Lions. 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.480 You get three games, and you get a Friday game. 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.560 Bears a Lions starts at the four and seven Bears 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:46.160 the ten and one Lions. The Bears. What a game 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.599 this was on a on a different weekend, this would 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.560 have been the game of the week. The Bears starts 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.160 out Minnesota first drive, second and goal with the one 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:58.560 Aaron Jones stripped by Jonathan Owens, mister Simone Biles recovered 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.800 by Owens, and you figure, okay, maybe this is the 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.400 Bear's day. Nuts about Chicago. A couple of drives later, 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.520 Caleb to Allen for forty to start the drive to 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.880 swift for thirty two plays later, Shan John's a different one. 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.960 It's seven to nothing. Bears late first quarter. Minnesota comes 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:15.560 right back though Addison two yard touchdown catch after Donald 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.880 hit Addison for forty five, seven to seven. First play 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.880 of the second quarter. Then Santos remember he had that 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:24.920 field goal blocked against the Green Bay Packers. Well, he 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.159 tries a forty eight yard and this one is blocked 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:29.800 after Allen appeared to have made a great catch of 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.120 the six but was ruled out of bounds on review. 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.800 So Cairo Sento's now with another field goal block took 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.400 He took responsibility after the game. He says, I have 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:44.320 low trajectory kicks. Low trajectory kicks main seven to seven. 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.760 Also the line getting shoved. Minnesota comes back fifty three 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.039 yard drive, Donald to Jalen Nayler from five out fourteen 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.520 to seven. Minnesota be fourteen to ten at the half 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:55.520 after Santo's kicking forty nine yard are Okay, we get 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.520 to the first bit of shenanigans, or not only his shenanigans, 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.800 but the first bits of eyebrow raise of the day. 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.120 So it's fourteen ten Minnesota. The third quarter begins, Minnesota 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:09.800 first play Darnold to Addison for sixty nine even though 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:13.240 Kelly he had stepped out well before that, like thirty 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:18.200 three yards earlier, and it was detected by a boundary camera. 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:22.360 Boundary camera comes into our life as football vans. Now again, 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.880 we've watched a bajillion you and me, you listening to 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.600 me and me, We have watched a bajillion football games 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.200 between us in our lives. You ever heard about this before? 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.560 So Mike Perera breaks the story that, just in case 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:37.200 you couldn't, you didn't think that the NFL couldn't be 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:42.000 more byzantine as they say about their rules. He lets 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:47.640 us know that apparently on and I'm gonna get this right, 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.480 that you cannot over According to Perera, the NFL officiating 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.960 crew working the game could not overturn the play on 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:59.080 a coach's challenge, even with a boundary camera angle showing 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.760 that Addison Addison clearly stepped out of bounds. Because get this, Kelly, 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.600 not every stadium in the NFL has that camera angle, 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.480 and it wouldn't be fair to others. It would have 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.840 apparently only been valid on a scoring play, which goes 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.360 to official review, but on a coaches challenge because there's 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:19.040 not uniform boundary cameras across the league, a twenty billion 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.520 dollar league. They weren't able to use that they were 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.960 not permitted to because of equity, and so Addison gets 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.840 his sixty nine yard cast. Also, is this the one where. 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.600 He said, if it was a primetime game of any kind, right, 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.760 it would have been called because of that same thing, 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:34.280 because the cameras would have been in place. 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.160 Correctly, I missed that part, but yeah, that makes sense, 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.000 the whole sense, but it's unbelievable anyway. It leads to 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:43.439 a Parker Robofield goal seventeen to ten at that point 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.240 for the Vikings. A little later on, the Vikings were stopped. 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.680 They had to punt, but it hits to Andre Carter 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.040 of the Bears, recovered by Bo Richter sets up Minnesota 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.520 at the Chicago fifteen. Five plays later, Jones in from two, 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.280 twenty four to ten Minnesota. Late third quarter, you figure 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.320 this one's over, but Chicago comes back sixty four yards, 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.360 including four conversion at the Minnesota twenty. Caleb for seven. 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.520 Two plays later, Caleb to DJ Moore from seven out 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.400 two point try fails, twenty four to sixteen. Halfway through 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:11.320 the through the fourth quarter, twenty seven to sixteen. Now 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:15.440 Bears looking like they're done with one fifty six left 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.880 in the game under the two minute warning, their down 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:21.320 two scores after DeAndre Carter returns a kick off fifty 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.080 five yards, though, sets up at the Minnesota forty fourth 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.400 and three conversion. Caleb to a Dunze for fourteen four 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:28.800 plays later, Caleb to Keenan from one out, two point 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.560 try good. Caleb to DJ Moore twenty seven to twenty four, 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:32.880 twenty two seconds left. 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:33.040 Though. 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:36.240 You know how this goes. They had to declare. They 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.640 had to declare an on side kick and it worked. 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.160 Set up at their own forty three to DJ More 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.640 for twenty seven, Spike Santos for forty eight. Good, we're 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:48.280 going over time. Oh my god, what a game. Chicago 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.360 three and out of Minnesota matriculates, that's all it was 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.120 from their own nineteen. They actually were a second in 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.000 seventeen hole. They got out of it to Addison for 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.240 thirteen on third and nine. At their own twenty two, 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:01.280 the matriculate Jefferson for twenty to Hockets for twenty nine, 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:03.959 John Parker romo twenty nine yard field go good, thirty 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:07.120 to twenty seven. Minnesota wins it. They take on Detroit 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.680 in this, or I should say Chicago does in this 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.000 division game Detroit. There's not much to say about this 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.640 game other than after it was three to nothing Indianapolis. 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.560 You know how these Detroit games go. Kelly sixty yard 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.840 drive gibbson from one, seven to three, seven to six. 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:25.079 Game nine plays seventy yards Montgomery in from six fourteen 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.960 to six halftime, third quarter, fourth and one at the 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.360 Indianapolis fourteen Montgomery two yard lost. Maybe Indiapolis can get 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.200 back in this Nope. Next time Detroit gets the ball, 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.120 ten plays, seventy nine yard touchdown drive gibbs in from five, 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:41.000 twenty one to six. Indianapolis couldn't do anything offensively. It 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.040 ends up being twenty four to six. Here's Indianapolis's second half. 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:49.080 Second half possessions, three and out, turnover on They wanted 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:50.280 to go for it on fourth, but they had a 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.800 holding penalty, so they had to punt three and out, 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:57.120 three and out turnover on downs. Ball game held to 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.960 two hundred and sixty eight total yards were the cold 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:05.040 only eleven first downs. Chicago at Detroit. Your Thanksgiving morning, 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.160 I'm gonna say Detroit by ten. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:09.839 Yeah, you're right, there are about ten and a half 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.440 right now. Got the hook too, huh Yeah, got the 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:13.000 hook too. 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.959 Are the Detroit Lions. The Detroit Lions feel like one 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:21.640 of these eighties NFC juggernauts. Pick your year, whether it 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:23.400 was the Bears in eighty five, or the Giants all 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.520 those years, the Niners all those years, or the Skins 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:30.120 all those years. They just take care of every opponent. However, 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:34.079 after watching last night's game, which we'll get to, do, 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:37.720 you believe the Eagles are on par with this team. 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:39.800 In other words, the Eagles script, which we'll get to 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.800 seems to be the same every whether it's against the Bengals, 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.559 whether it's against Washington, whether it's against the Rams last night. Oh, 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.920 you can play with them for a while, but then 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.079 they will wear you out. Every one of these games, 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.120 I up the final scoring is of being a blowout. 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.240 I think the Lions are the best team right now 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:57.800 in the NFL. I think they will be the best 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.680 team in the regular season. Talk to me the playoff skill. 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:02.320 I think I'd like the Eagles a little bit more. 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:06.199 That's the proper waivers. What you just do. Wait to 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.240 not step on step out of all on that one, 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.240 I agree with it. Everything you're saying come down to 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:15.000 sixty minutes in January and perhaps specifically the NFC Championship game. 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.440 We'll come back more guessing lines Week thirteen Numbers Game 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.079 Visa the Sports Betting Network. 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:30.640 Numbers game on VSAID these Sports Vetting Network. 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.560 If you haven't become a Visa Pro subscriber yet, now's 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.640 your chance to start being smarter and save big. Sign 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.040 up on our Black Friday special today. Get Visa Pro 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.360 access to everything we do from now through May first 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.240 for only sixty dollars. 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You get that great kickoff return, 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.600 you matriculate it, you get the two point conversion, you 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:19.240 recover it on side kick for God's sakes, which never happens. 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.040 You get it in field goal rage, you sink that 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.920 and you just three and out overtime. And that's that. 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.480 That was the That was the first off. What are 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.160 the on side kicks when you see it where I'm 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:30.200 always like, why can't. 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:31.000 You do that more often? 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.720 You know, it's like they just skipping across the ground, right, 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:37.720 it's off the leg man. That Witching Hour portion yesterday 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.079 though it was it was something overall. Oh boy, not 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.520 Hansoon loving it like you said on any other day. 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.400 I'm just like sitting there, I'm like, what's going on 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:47.280 with like three of these games. If we don't keep 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:48.680 up with the tweets, we'll never get through them. So 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.079 let's just let's do every segment here. We get tweets 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:51.600 of beating the book. 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.640 Chris Hauser to Kelly Bidlin, you hit a five, and 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:56.080 oh when you try to go oh. 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:59.480 To five, I try to go five. It was just 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.400 what I text year this morning, five oh circum millions 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:05.480 a week. I only bet one of the sides. Puer 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.440 I had another one. I had the Lions and a teaser. 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.880 Then wait out of the season running already, and out 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:13.520 of the quarter running already. I went three and two 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:14.960 and two and three the first two weeks. 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.360 Ryan Hyatt, we need ang deep dive from Gilly Kelly 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.440 regarding the Kingsbury effect. At this point, it's real. For 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.080 whatever reason, the midseason swoons, we saw Texas Tech and 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.040 Arizona continue. Now as offensive coordinator at Washington, the only 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:30.040 common denominator is Kingsbury. Well, ryot asking, you shall receive. 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:32.840 Do we have that? Guys? Do we have the Kingsbury 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.440 update on the screen. This is an unbelievable thing. In 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:39.720 the first seven games, all those Texas Tech and Cardinals years, 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.920 was he as head coach, then USC's senior offensive asistant 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.080 last year before becoming the Commodore's offensive coordinator this year. 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.520 Look at those first seven games and then everything that 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:52.120 has happened after those first seven games fifty six, twenty 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:56.760 seven and one, first seven, twenty two and sixty after 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:02.520 good God, just wild asking you shall receive Johnny Millionaire, 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:04.880 listen to you on your show, Gil in the megapod, 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.560 and I'm glad I didn't go with your guy that 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.840 something was amiss with the Detroit The Lions keep rolling, 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.120 while Commi's and Texans were the big favorites most likely 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.640 to stumble. I think he's talking about Drew. I'm guessing 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.800 who didn't. Who's not a big who's not as high 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:22.560 on the Lions as others. But the Lions keep rolling, 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:26.200 for sure they do. And Washington and Houston again the 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.720 record better than the teams actually are these days. Jesse, 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:31.800 welch no offense, Gilly, because I'm sure it was terrible 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:33.600 for you as a fan. But I cannot wait to 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.000 hear your breakdown of the Fish Taco Holders game. Okay, 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:42.000 it's coming. Las Vegas five to one, four yo Specialties 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:45.280 plays so important it reared its ugly had yesterday for 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.120 our team. The playoffs are slipping away. Sheesh. By the way, 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.080 looking forward to you and Young Kelly's Top Thanksgiving Sides 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.600 twenty twenty four edition. No raisins in your potato salad, 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.720 No raisins in the stuffing is what I'm really about. 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.240 Stop polluting your stuffing with raisins. Just give me the 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.040 stove top. There's my list, all right, you ready? What's that? 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:03.640 I'm glad we got that tweet. I forgot. I forgot 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:05.360 to write that one down for this week. That's right, 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:09.280 Top Sides gonna do that one at some point Sunday. Sunday, No, 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:09.960 we're still Thursday. 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:10.960 Thursday. Forgot Thursday. 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.800 In the middle of the afternoon, one thirty Pacific Giant said, Cowboys. 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.760 Forgot us Thanksgiving for a second Thursday. Three games Friday one, 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:22.200 I love it. Giants against Tampa yesterday. Not much to 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.280 say about this game other than Tampa just rolled him. 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.760 It is Tommy DeVito and the Giants. Tampa Bay first 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:28.960 drive fourteen plays seventy yards. Sean Tucker in from one, 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.840 seven to nothing. Giants punt, Giants three and out. Third time, 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:34.640 Tampa Bay gets the ball field goal ten to nothing. 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:37.520 Giants three and out. Tampa Bay seven plays eighty two yards. 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.000 Bucky Irving in from six, seventeen to nothing a little 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:41.640 more than halfway through the second quarter. At this point 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:43.920 in the game, the total yards was two O nine 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:44.600 to nineteen. 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:46.040 Is that good? 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.160 Giants punt Tampa Bay eighty six yards. Baker in from 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.280 ten and then he does his celebration in the end zone. 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.120 For all the Tommy de Vito lovers can you do 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.040 it for us? Kelly, could you do I'll do it 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:57.800 for you. This is what he was doing it, but 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.560 he's doing it really fast like this the whole time. 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.560 It was a great South standing the best part of 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.439 the game. What's the score of that point? Twenty three 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.280 to nothing? They missed the extra point. That's the halftime 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.399 score anyway. Giants. Then they matriculate first and goal at 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.680 the five tyrone Tracy hit by Levonte David fumbles, Elijah 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:16.040 Cansi recovers Tampa Go's ninety five yards or shot I 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.480 were shot white in from one. It was thirty to nothing, 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.320 Katie bar the door. I did get to thirty to 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.399 seven because the Giants did get one scoring drive to 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.760 make it thirty to seven. And the only thing noteworthy 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:30.359 after that was on a long irving fifty six yard 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.919 game Baker's blocking down field as well, which was awesome 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:37.760 to see. Final score thirty to seven. Tampa rolls the Giants. 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:41.080 They out gained the Giants four fifty to two forty five. 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:42.639 Who did you say they were playing the Giants? 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.920 Giants said the Cowboys. I thought you said that, Yeah, yeah. 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:48.680 Let me just talk about the first half of a second, 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:50.880 because really the game was lost in the first half. 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.840 Aubrey thirty five yardfield goal blocked, what three to nothing 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.639 Washington after a Cyber forty one yard Then Aubrey misses 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:02.560 a forty two yardfield goal, misses it wide right, still 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.960 three to nothing. Cybert misses a fifty one yarder, still 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.760 three to nothing. Then dawdlls hit by Johnny Newton, stripped 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:11.960 by Bobby Wagner. Washington set up in the Dallas forty seven, 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.600 three and out. A couple times later, Dallas punt block 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:19.760 by Mathis. Washington set up at Dallas forty third play 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.880 first intend at the Dallas twenty eight Jayden really a 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:26.320 bad decision picked by Chauncey Golston, who's basically in the 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:30.240 intended receiver's you know, lap, Dallas set up at midfield. 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:32.440 They get a three and out. Dallas ends up taking 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:34.240 over the next time with forty five seconds left, but 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.440 they own fourteen forty five seconds left. In the second quarter, 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:38.600 Rush chucks it just he just chunks it up in 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.920 the air and Jalen Rooks comes down with it. Forty 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.639 one yards later. Aubrey forty six yard fields three to 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:47.560 three at the halftime, three to three. Washington should have 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.640 had a big lead. That's where they lost the game. Okay, 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.600 I'll get to the good part. Third quarter, Washington sixty 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.719 yards Jayden in from seventeen and you're like, okay, I 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.720 gonna roll him now. Cybern misses the extra point nine three. 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:02.560 Wash Dallas comes right back eighty yards rush to Jalen 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.159 Tolbert from six out, ten to nine. That would be 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.080 the score. That would be the score at the end 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:12.639 of the third quarter. Wash Dallas ten, Washington nine. 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:14.119 What a snoozer. 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:19.080 Dallas would take a thirteen to nine lead. Eight eleven 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:21.520 left in the fourth quarter and Washington first play after 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.479 that Jayden to John Bates from thirteen that he's hit 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.600 by Donovan Wilson. Fumbles were covered by Eric Kendricks. Dallas 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:30.080 set up the Washington thirty five rushed Scoonmaker from twenty 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:33.480 two out twenty to nine Dallas with five sixteen left, 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:37.200 the DC Skins are down two scores. Oh my god, 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:42.959 it's happening again. Historical double digit favorite against Dallas. They've lost. 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:45.320 You know, some big ones in the pethers. This is 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.280 only the fifth that we could come up with via 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:49.760 the database. One of them in nineteen eighty nine when 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.320 Dallas went one. In fifteen you guessed it. That one 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:55.600 was when they were a double digit underdog to Washington. 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.480 And in nineteen ninety one the greatest team of all time, 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:01.280 Washington was eleven and oh playing at home, double digit 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.720 favorite against Dallas. Dallas went into RFK RFK and beat 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:05.400 him that day. 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:06.760 But don't worry. Girl's moved on. 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.480 Yeah, And then there was yesterday, and I'm like, Okay, 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.440 it's happening again. Twenty to nine Dallas Washington, though nine 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.480 plays sixty nine yards jayden Ertz from four out, twenty 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:18.560 to fifteen, Daniel's Moses in on the two point conversion, 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:22.080 twenty to seventeen Dallas with three to zero two left. 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.920 Then one of the if it wasn't so sad, it 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:29.959 would be funny. Twenty to seventeen Washington. It's now just 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:34.159 a field goal game. They kickoff Turpin Cavante. Turpin misplays 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.720 the kickoff, then he picks it up and he does 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:40.000 like you know the Madden thing you do where you 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:43.000 just spin for no reason. That's what he did to 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:47.600 the house. You're not catching Turpin. Oh my god, the god, 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.040 I just couldn't believe. 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.800 It till the most early early two thousands Madden thing 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.560 I've ever seen, except for the dropped him muffing it, 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:57.400 because you know, muffin it mad. But oh, I actually 0:20:57.520 --> 0:20:59.240 hit spin move. I didn't really need to do that. 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:01.520 And then my guy, it's got ninety nine speed is 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:03.520 somehow eight times faster than everybody else. 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:07.359 On the twenty seven seventeen Dallas with two forty nine left, 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:11.399 and surely it's over, except it's not. Washington does the 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:14.360 right thing. Give dan Quinn credit. They're down two scores. 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:16.199 They got the ball as soon as they get in 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:19.640 field goal range, right, that's it. Let's kick the field goal, 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:21.959 and they do, and Cybert nails it. From fifty one 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:26.440 twenty seven to twenty Dallas with one forty left. Washington 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:29.360 does have two timeouts. They do declare on their own 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.600 side kick that one fails. Dallas takes over it the 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:35.640 Washington forty nine. But remember again, two timeouts left three 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:38.040 and out for Dallas. So Washington does get the ball 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:40.320 back down seven, but they get it back at their 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:43.320 own fourteen with thirty three seconds left. Kelly, So I mean, 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:44.960 you know, it's basically it's. 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:48.240 Over, except for Jane Magill, Jaydean Daniels hit Terry McClure 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:50.560 in the incomparable one swears. 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:54.640 Through the defense touchdown. Oh my god, sorry, I apologize. 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:57.879 It was just the most amazing thing you could possibly imagine, 0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:01.240 because Terry McLaurin is the most never st He's incredible, 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:07.359 and it's twenty It's it's twenty seven, twenty six, Dallas pandemonium. 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:09.400 Except there's a little voice in the back of your 0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:12.720 head that said, didn't Cybert miss an extra point earlier 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:15.280 in this game? Isn't he back from injury? Eddie misses 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:18.640 wide left? Did you see where he put his plant foot? 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:21.359 Yeah, it had no chance of The broadcast brought it 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:23.320 up too right. Then, right before they got to the 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:25.240 extra point, they're like, yeah, this is all kind. 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:28.200 Of big for everybody. Saw there head twenty seven to 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:30.640 twenty six, twenty one seconds left. The game's over, right, 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:36.840 not exactly on sidekick, declared wan Ye Thomas, my hero, 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:40.879 not to be confused with wan Ye Morris or Kanye West. 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:43.600 He stupidly takes it to the house thirty four to 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:46.480 twenty six. So there's fourteen seconds left. But now Washington 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:49.800 conceivably could still tie. This Eckler returns at thirty eight 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:52.320 yards before he gets popped, washingt at their own thirty 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:54.440 six nine seconds left. Get it to the forty two 0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:59.240 Hail Mary picked ballgame. Finally you have your final Dallas 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:03.440 thirty four, wash it in twenty six. I hate you, Dallas, 0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:05.640 Dallas minus five and a half against the Giant. 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.520 You're a little heavy Cowboys four right now. 0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:14.120 I hate you at the bottom of my heart. That's 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:16.560 all I gotta say. Coming back, We're guessing. 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:25.320 One numbers game on VSA these Sports Vetting Network. 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:27.520 The vson Watch app makes it easy to watch or 0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:30.280 listen to Vison anywhere except for that last sec anytime 0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:32.080 on your phone or tablet. For a limited time only, 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:34.160 you can watch it for free. 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Son? What does matriculate mean? Me? 0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:10.840 I have no idea. Son, looks at me, Hail Mary 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.679 for touchdown, sugar up. Matriculated by the way, because we 0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:16.000 get this, we get this every week, right, somebody tweets 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:18.679 it about this. I know I'm using it incorrectly. It 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:22.720 is a tribute to Super Bowl four and the NFL 0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:25.520 films footage of Hank Stram, the then coach of the 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:27.800 Kansas City Chiefs, who ended up winning that Super Bowl 0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:31.480 against the Minnesota Vikings, telling his players just keep matriculating 0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:33.200 the ball down the field. So that's what it's. 0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:36.199 It's incredible. It's incredible. The fact that you could just 0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:39.800 like change that's in sports. We've changed the definition or 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:42.440 added to the definition of a word, is just amazing. 0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:45.960 Blue hen Bill, as my Texans ticket went up in flames, Yessoud, 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.760 I couldn't help but remember your guessing lines prediction on 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.159 that very game with perceived value on Tennessee. Did you 0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:55.760 end up playing Tennessee? I did not because I don't trust. 0:24:55.520 --> 0:25:01.720 Them, but yeah, we had nice weekend. If those done something. 0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:04.520 Stringfellow Hawk, I grabbed the second half over twenty and 0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:05.959 a half in the Commodes game. That was a hell 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:07.680 of a half a football. Good for you, and he says, 0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:11.200 I've already hate that's the Giants in the game against 0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:16.080 the Cowboys. Gil's guys sounding like Toddy during his commander's recap. 0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.480 Great stuff, Thank you very much. I appreciate it. 0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:20.880 Director Isaiah Wrinkles saying the same thing. 0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:24.239 Yeah. Todd Wishnev, who literally I want to call him 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:27.200 medic in for every Megapod when he does he's always 0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.440 a busting on one of my plays because he does 0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.760 a half game lead over me and he goes, wait, 0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:34.520 I'm hearing what the It's always a I always he's 0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:36.960 always predicting a loss of one of my bets that 0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.320 always involves a pylon at the end of the game, 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:41.880 and he goes nuts doing it. That's good stuff. Beating 0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:44.320 the book Megapod. Okay, we got tons of games to 0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:45.879 get to but oh, the one last thing about the 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:49.159 old Washington game, people were texting me about. They're like, 0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:51.560 oh is it? Is this going to be Hail Miriam 0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:54.560 Part two? Hail Miriam Part two? Attribute to my mom 0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:57.359 except for one thing. I never had a conversation with 0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:00.000 my mom about extra points, Like she knew nothing about it. 0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:03.920 What do you mean there's another point? Yeah we didn't. 0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:07.120 We didn't cover that part. Yeah, all right. Still on Thursday, Yeah, 0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:08.000 still on Thursday. 0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:10.240 Thursday night, I was just trying to pull up my networks. 0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:13.680 Is this Amazon's right? This is your I believe this is. 0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:14.600 Your Amazon stream. 0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.440 We're just trying to get networks for Where is that Friday? 0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:18.320 Oh? 0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.440 Yeah, yeah, that's Friday because it's Black Friday. Yeah, you're right, Yeah, 0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:25.520 this is TBD. Kelly will figure it out. Dolphins at Packers. 0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:27.440 I'm gonna guess the NFL network, but I could be wrong. 0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:31.040 Dolphins and Packers, all right, Dolphins the sneaky in the 0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:34.280 playoff picture. Still yeah, a game and a half behind 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:36.919 the Broncos for the final spot in the AFC NBC. 0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:39.120 Of course they're five and six. We've got that wrong. 0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:43.439 New England. Second time they had the ball, sly forty 0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:45.440 five yard try hits the right up right, No, good 0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:48.520 and that was that was basically their their biggest moment 0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:50.199 to glimmer of hope in the game, because then it 0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:52.479 was all Miami eight play sixty five yards two at 0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:54.480 a John Wu from seven out seven and nothing. New 0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.120 England three and out. Miami nine plays sixty six yards 0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:59.080 two at a eight Chan from nine out, fourteen to nothing. 0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.720 New England three and outs. Miami ten plays eighty yards 0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:03.600 two at eighth and from eleven twenty one to nothing. 0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:05.679 Miami New England three and a half Sanders field goal 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:07.520 twenty four to nothing at the half. Do you need 0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:09.240 to know anything else about this game? I don't think 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:09.479 you do. 0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.080 Maybe stop playing so much man defense New England. 0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:15.040 Oh, the only other part is New England third and 0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:17.880 three at the at midfield May sacked by Zach Sealer, 0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:20.560 fumbles recovered by Jordan Brooks that set up Miami at 0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:22.240 the New England twenty five. They actually got it to 0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:24.920 thirty one to nothing two it a Jalen Waddell final 0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.400 score thirty four to fifteen. Because New England for those 0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.840 who had Miami and survivor, I'm sure thirty four to 0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.760 thirty one to nothing was not comfortable enough because New 0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:37.800 England did get a new England did get a touchdown 0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.400 on fourth and fifteen at the Miami thirty eight when 0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:43.720 May just basically threw the ball up deep in Hooper 0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:46.040 caught it downfield to make it thirty one to seven. 0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.520 And then there was a Jalen Right fumble for Miami 0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:52.200 returned by Christian Gonzales sixty three yards to the house 0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.920 two point try good to make it thirty one to 0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:58.600 fifteen early fourth quarter, but they never got closer than that. 0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:02.440 Thirty four to fifteen Miami going away. Five and six 0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:07.360 are the Dolphins glimmer glimmer of hope to a three 0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.639 hundred and seventeen yards passing by the way should be 0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.840 pointed out. And then green Bay taking on a Brock 0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:16.959 Purty less Niners team and the Niners depth chart at 0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:20.680 quarterback is Brandon Allen in front of Josh Dobbs. Green 0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.080 Bay first drive sixty seven yards loved to Tucker Craft 0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:26.280 from eleven out seven and nothing. Mcmannus would make it 0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:28.359 ten to nothing. Next time green Bay had the ball 0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:31.240 after that seventy one yards Jacob's in from one seventeen 0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:34.760 to nothing. The Packers were just rolling and then the 0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.760 Niners showed some life sixty five yard drive alan a 0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:41.320 Kittle from three out seventeen to seven. Lafleur didn't use 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:44.240 a timeout oddly on that drive, and then Green Bay 0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:47.720 had a deep ball that Dobbs just flat out dropped 0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:49.880 that he could have taken to the house, so seventeen 0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.920 to seven. But then so the second half begins, so 0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:55.400 it's not really a double dip, but a de facto 0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:59.200 double dip, big debo return, but it was nullified by penalty, 0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:02.360 and so that was kind of it. San Francisco next 0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:04.680 time they had the ball after that, because that drive 0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:06.720 didn't do anything. Third and eight at the green Bay 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.920 forty five, Allen, picked by Xavier McKinney, threw Deebo's hands, 0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.080 returned at forty eight yards. They were set up at 0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.800 the San Francisco twenty six. Three plays later a PI 0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:16.720 on Dobbs in the end zone Jacobs in from one 0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:20.080 twenty four to seven. At twenty four to ten, San 0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.040 Francisco would at first and five at their own fifteen 0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.480 Allen hit by Lucas van Ness, he fumbled recovered by 0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:26.960 Kenny Clark. That set up green Bay at San Francisco 0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.920 fifteen to craft touchdown. Excuse me, you've done too at 0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.880 sixteen to Kraft for fifteen. Two plays later Jacobs in 0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:34.920 from one thirty one to ten. The final was thirty 0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:38.600 eight to ten after a CMC fumble later that was 0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.320 recovered by Carl Brooks that set up green Bay thirty 0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.320 eight to ten. They absolutely rolled the Niners. And someone 0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.560 was asking me, hey, Niners can't be in your power 0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.320 rankings anymore, not with Brock Purdy. They can't be. They're 0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.200 not even They're not even a consideration at that point. 0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:54.920 Green Bay. So it's Miami at green Bay, which is 0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.640 a sneaky kind of good game on Thursday night. I'm 0:29:57.680 --> 0:29:59.960 gonna say green Bay minus four and a half. 0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:03.600 Okay, So this opened on the other side, this opened 0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.560 three and a half for most places. I believe Weird 0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:08.280 Dolphin's been taking a lot of money. There are a 0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.800 lot of threes out there now. It is mainly juiced threes. 0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.040 We are three flat at South Point because they don't 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.160 go more than minus one ten, and there are three 0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:17.560 and a half's out there as well, three and a 0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:19.160 half at DraftKings right now. 0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.520 Wow, there are threes still out there. 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.640 You said, yeah, it's come down to three Dolphins have 0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:24.640 been getting bet here early. 0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.680 This is still a Miami team going outdoors at night 0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:29.520 in Green Bay. 0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:30.680 Right, Yes, yeah, correct. 0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:33.000 I like the Packers, I really do. I like the 0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.880 Packers in this game as as met as Jordan Love 0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:38.840 has been playing as compared to last year. Let's go 0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:40.080 to Friday's game. Squeeze it in. 0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.480 Yeah, I might be with you on that one. I 0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:45.680 haven't bet it yet. Raiders at Chiefs. This is Friday three, 0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:47.040 eastern noon Pacific. 0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.600 The two and nine Raiders and the ten and one Chiefs. 0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.800 Raiders lose to the Broncos. We'll get to the Broncos later. 0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:55.320 But the Broncos I mean all the credit in the 0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.160 world of Sean Payton and bone Nicks. I've said it 0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:00.160 for about a month now. That is as hard as 0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:02.360 I am on Sean Payton, and deservedly so, I think, 0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:05.840 both for off the field stuff and for being overrated 0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.560 on the field through the years. This is his finest job, 0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:12.320 and bo Nix has improved so much in this and 0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:14.960 the twenty nine to nineteen win was just another display 0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:18.479 of that. Three to nothing. Denver Dylan Labbe fifty nine 0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:21.840 yard kickff return for the Raiders led to Minshew to Abdullah, 0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:24.600 six yard touchdown pass seven to three. It would be 0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:26.360 they would just trade field goals the rest of the 0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.480 half thirteen to nine Raiders into the second half, then 0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:31.920 a second and fourteen Raiders first drive second half, second 0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:33.880 and fourteen at their own thirty four. Minshew pick by 0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:37.280 Brandon Jones returns at thirty seven yards set up Denver 0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.400 at the Raiders eighteen second play, Nicks to Sutton touchdown 0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:43.880 sixteen thirteen. Denver takes the lead. With ten forty nine 0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.600 left in the third quarter, they would trade field goals 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:51.200 nineteen sixteen. Now Denver seventy yard drive for the Broncos, 0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:53.640 Knicks to Sutton from two out twenty six to sixteen 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.080 with five thirty left, and Denver does a great job 0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.520 of managing when they're up Carlson, We'll get a twenty 0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:00.160 two yard field goal to make it twenty six to 0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:04.080 nineteen uh and then Vegas eventually would take take over 0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:07.240 the ball down touchdown at their own twenty four with 0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:12.160 three twelve left. Drama right nothing. Minshaw immediately sacked knocked 0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:13.800 out on the first play. Turns out he has a 0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:16.760 broken collar bone. He's out for the season. Two plays 0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.680 later Ridder strip sacked by Nick Benito, Malcolm Roach recovers 0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:22.680 Denver Lut's thirty three yard field will twenty nine to 0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.720 nineteen with one to fifty six left Las Vegas. Remember 0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.240 what the spread is here, Kelly? Six points right, they're 0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:30.800 down ten are the Raiders. They get it to first 0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:33.080 and call at the diverst and goal at the doorstep, 0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:36.080 not even the one the doorstep like an inch away 0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:39.400 or two inches away. With twenty seconds left, Ridder incomplete. 0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:41.840 Then with sixteen seconds left, what's the one thing you 0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:42.800 can't do here, Kelly? 0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:44.040 Turn the ball up? 0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:46.880 No, take a sack, we take a sack anything, clock 0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.520 runs out. Play go Brocos, get the money. 0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:52.800 What are you doing? What are you doing? Coach them up, 0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:57.400 Coach the kid up, Antonio piars Uh that's your Raiders, 0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.720 by the way. And then the Chiefs they could you 0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:01.560 get credit as much as credit I want to give 0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:05.360 to bo Nicks. Give credit to Bryce Young serviceable twenty 0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.640 one up thirty five for two sixty two. This was 0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:11.080 a game where the Chiefs led, you know, twenty to six, 0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:14.520 then twenty to nine Carolina. In the second half they 0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.760 got it to twenty to fifteen and then they wanted 0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:19.280 to go for two, but they had a false start, 0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.240 so they had they had to kick the ashtra poyts, 0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:25.080 so was twenty to sixteen, and then Mahomes bullet to 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:28.280 Hopkins from three out twenty seven to sixteen. Kansas City 0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:30.680 with two forty two late third quarter and then at 0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:34.920 twenty seven to nineteen, down one possession right a touchdown 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:38.360 in a two point conversion. Carolina sort of fakes out. 0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:40.280 I don't mean fakes out literally, but they run a 0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.280 play with two to one left on a fourth and three. 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:44.720 They convert Bryce to feeling for thirteen. Then a PI 0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:46.560 in the end zone. Next play chub In from one 0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:48.920 twenty seven to twenty five PI on a two point 0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:51.080 drive from the one Hubbard in. We're tied at twenty 0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:53.840 seven with one forty six left, and then Mahomes thirty 0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:57.080 three yard run you know, Schrader thirty one yard field goal. 0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.280 That's what it's set up. Thirty to twenty seven Kansas 0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:02.520 City ekes by Eeks Bye. This's got to be more 0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:03.960 than ten. I'll say eleven and a half. 0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.560 We are out to thirteen or thirteen and a half, 0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:07.800 depending on where you shot. 0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:11.840 Kansas City favored over the Raiders on Friday, on Black Friday. 0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:13.040 We'll get to Sunday. 0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:24.800 Next numbers game, one said the Sports Vetting Network. 0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:28.040 Back at Circa here on a numbers game, Pardos for 0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.160 those listening in Spanish, Gila Alexander Kelly Bidland live from 0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:36.360 Circa Resort Casino Downtown, Las Vegas, Nevada, Majestic beautiful Downtown. 0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.919 We get tweets at beating the book, John Massey, John 0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:42.560 Madden Game, and Lambeau on NBC on Thursday night. At 0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:44.480 least you don't have to recap the Jets this week. 0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.880 Good point. Hey, Larry Fresh is out here in the 0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:48.799 sports book. He says, I'm out in the book watching live, 0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:50.520 listening on my headphones because they don't have you all 0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:53.200 on the mains on the main screen. Yeah, they always 0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:53.799 take us down. 0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:56.120 Oh there is Larry's waving. 0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:56.720 He's waving. 0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.200 I was like, I bet you we can see him. 0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:02.400 Bro Sik, I used to do that every tweeters and 0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:06.080 we'll just stop the show, will wave Bro sec eighteen seventy. 0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.560 What franchise doesn't have the boundary camp sounds like a 0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:10.920 Bear's move, But that's wrong. Maybe the Browns, but it 0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:13.160 wouldn't surprise me if it was the New York teams 0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:14.840 just going through the league figuring out who does that 0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:17.879 boundary camps? Spence, can we talk about how US Raider 0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:20.440 ticket holders were two inches from the back door cover? Oh? 0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:23.200 We just did. Also my third leg of grant of 0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:25.640 green Bay minus six and Seattle plus one. Oh, he 0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:29.040 lost to Parlay on that torch Day caught the Panthers 0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:31.359 live at fifteen to one with about two minutes left 0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.960 in the game. Panthers score, convert the two, but they 0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:38.960 leave Patrick hit the cash out button, Mahomes ninety seconds 0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:40.840 to score. They don't call them that for nothing. I 0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:44.400 cashed out for five times my original bet. Good for you. Awesome, 0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:46.560 But it brings to mind before we get back to 0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:48.680 these camps. It brings to mind a larger conversation, which 0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:50.759 is you look at your standings and the Chiefs are ten, 0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:57.799 ten and one. Honestly, where do they rank right now? 0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:02.800 Isn't this the option of the Lions conversation we had it? 0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.640 It is the opposite, is they are exactly It's the start, 0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.240 Patrick Mahomes, I can put on my cape for sixty 0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:11.560 minutes in January, so don't worry about what you're watching now. 0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.560 Yeah, this is uh, this is Rounders, this is this 0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:17.680 is grinding my way through the regular season. Get get 0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:19.400 me to the main event of the playoffs, where I 0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:21.279 trust this team way more because we. 0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:23.799 Fell for this last year. I'm not doing it again, Gil, Nope, 0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:24.919 not doing it again. 0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:27.080 I'll make a stupid bets against him in the regular season, 0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:28.360 but I'm not doing it in the playoffs. 0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:31.000 Yeah. And they're never great at covering these big spreads 0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:34.560 during the regular season a thing. Yeah, not that. 0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:36.959 Like I'm actually betting them, but I just I feel 0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:39.800 like every week someone's like, oh, Jeeves, they gotta hammer, 0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:41.919 they gotta hammer the Panthers, Right, I'm like, I I'm 0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:42.920 not laying that number. 0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:44.200 What's next? 0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:48.120 Sunday morning or afternoon if you're on the East Coast 0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.640 one o'clock Eastern Chargers at Falcons. 0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:52.800 Starters play the Ravens tonight. I am on the Ravens 0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.120 big tonight at two and a half, Ravens minus two 0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:57.399 and a half and in the Horror Bowl if you will, 0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:02.960 John over Jim tonight, Ravens over the Chargers. This was 0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:04.560 my favorite bet of the week when we did guessing 0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:05.160 lines last time. 0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:07.239 Yeah, I got to you had a response out of me. 0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:09.040 I don't know how many times I've heard Gil Alexander 0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:11.120 say big in front of a bet on this show. 0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:11.520 I like it. 0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:15.640 That's pretty big. Who's this Chargers at Atlanta? You said, yep, 0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:19.800 so Chargers site unseen Atlanta off of by the seven 0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:23.600 and three currently Chargers, the six and five Falcons, and 0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.000 the Falcons better get it together because they got the 0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:29.080 Bucks right behind him with a really easy schedule knocking 0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:32.080 at the dough. I'm gonna say Atlanta. I'll split the 0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:33.879 difference between the pick them and the three. I'll say 0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:35.040 Atlanta minus one and a half. 0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:39.440 Fascinating. I feel like this has happened a couple a 0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:41.480 lot this year. Gil, you and I kind of have 0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:44.680 seeing things the same led to a bet here for me, 0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:47.240 we're on the other side. This is Chargers one. 0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:50.360 And a half. The market loves this Charger, yes, they do, 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:51.919 loves this Chargers team. 0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:54.200 They do. There are pick thems out there. I mean, 0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:57.440 this is shop around, but this was one. I took 0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:00.000 a plus money money line on the Falcons. I mean 0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:03.000 at home with the Chargers. We haven't seen him yet tonight. 0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:05.839 It's just say this. This will dramatically move it one 0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:06.520 way or the other time. 0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:09.720 Yeah, yeah it will now. Yeah, not a big opening 0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:11.120 bet for me, But I kind of saw it the 0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:12.560 same way, and I'm like, you're gonna give me plus 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:14.120 money on the money line at home, I'll take at 0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:16.319 least a little bit of it on the open. It's 0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:17.560 the exact same way I saw it. 0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:19.960 I mean, I didn't even if, even if on the 0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:21.560 wrong side of this in terms of who I think 0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:21.960 is favored. 0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:24.719 It's not like I'm recent a at the Falcons. 0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:30.160 Next, Steelers at the Bengals. Steelers extra rest again losing 0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:32.399 to the Browns on Thursday night in the snow. They're 0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:36.600 eight and three at Cincinnata. The four and seven Bengals 0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:40.040 still harboring playoff hopes, because that's what you do with 0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:43.319 playoff hope, s Kelly, you harbor them. I'm gonna say 0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:46.080 the same thing. By the way, Pittsburgh held Cleveland U 0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:49.719 to one of ten on third down but four of 0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:55.440 four on fourth Again on Thursday, I'll do the same thing. 0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:58.160 Cincinnati split the difference between a field goal and pick 0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:00.719 them Cincinnati by one and a half. I'm on the 0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:01.480 wrong side of this too. 0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:04.000 No, no, no, you're fighting out. No, you're close. This is Bengals, 0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:06.120 like two and a half. It's been Oh, this has 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:09.120 been interesting early betting because it has hit I think 0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:11.000 it's hit three a couple plays. I was just trying 0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:12.919 to scan that as you were going through stuff. How 0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:15.200 about that it's hitting three. It's hit three. But every 0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:17.319 time it hits three, it gets bet right back down. 0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:19.399 So it is two and a half across pretty much 0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:21.520 across the board I'm looking at right now, Bengals. It's 0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:23.080 a juice two and a half time. 0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:25.000 I would have guessed that I would have been more 0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:28.080 off on this game than I was in the previous one. Interesting, 0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:31.360 So the market really does like the Chargers and the 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:35.640 Bengals both. Yeah, typically week to week next all right, 0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:41.440 Cardinals at Vikings. Cardinals lose to the Seahawks in what 0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:44.160 was a big NFC West game but was kind of 0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:48.000 a black game. Yeah, three to nothering Arizona Seattle. Gino 0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.879 to Jackson Smith and Jigba the big one mostly Yack 0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.439 for forty six sets up Gino to JSN from three 0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.719 out three plays later, seven to three Seattle late second quarter. 0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:58.359 That was a score at the half. Arizona first time 0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.160 they got the ball down four. Now in the second half, 0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.640 fourth and one at the Seattle forty, Kyler goes right 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.640 and then he floats a pass, horrible pass on the run, 0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.480 trying to dump it short. He sails it and Kobe 0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:14.200 Bryant picks it sixty nine yards to the hiszy Myers 0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:17.399 misses the extra point. Thirteen to three, Seattle, Seattle. Next 0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:19.239 time they got the ball, first play, fourth quarter, third 0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:21.239 and six of the Arizona eighteen. They're about to blow 0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:23.960 this open Gino picked in the end zone by Garrett Williams, 0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:27.440 Arizona eighty yard drive. Kyler to Michael Wilson for thirty 0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:30.399 great catch, but it only sets up a Ryland twenty 0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.799 two yard field goal that had to settle thirteen to 0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:35.720 six Seattle. Now we're in the fourth quarter. Then Meyers 0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:38.680 fifty yard are by sex of the upright, sixteen to six. 0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:41.640 And then this is the difference right between the the 0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:43.840 you know the dan Quinn thing we talked about, which is, 0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:46.040 hey kick the field goal early because you're down two 0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:49.320 scores and you have a shot. Arizona's down two scores. 0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:53.120 They completely botched the time management down two scores and 0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:55.840 then just sort of serves him right. Ryland misses the 0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.239 forty seven yard field will try anyway, sixteen to six, 0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:02.080 Seattle wins it. It's like, dude, deuce, either get it 0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:04.719 in the end zone quick. If you in failing that, 0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:07.320 you know, shot in the end zone, just kick the 0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:11.160 field goal early. They did neither. They did neither. McBride, 0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:13.280 by the way, twelve catches for one thirty three in defeat. 0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:16.360 We talked about Minnesota's win over Chicago the nine and 0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:20.399 two Vikings. Sam Darnold yesterday twenty two of thirty four 0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:24.279 for three thirty Addison eight for one sixty two DC 0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:27.240 zone and a touchdown, Hockinson seven for one to fourteen 0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:29.880 Jones twenty two carries for one hundred and six yards 0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:33.200 and a touchdown four hundred and fifty two. Totally odds 0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:35.400 for the Vikings. I'll say, Vikings by four. 0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:40.640 This is yeah, you're dead on Vikings four, nine. 0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:42.080 And two Minnesota Vikings. 0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:44.080 How are you feeling about them? 0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:46.040 That's also an inflated record. 0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:48.239 That's what that's when you and I have gone back 0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.560 and forth with this team. Three and a halves out 0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:51.480 there too, although we have. 0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:54.839 Four Aaron shots Dvoa has them high. He has them 0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:55.759 as a top five team. 0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:59.080 Yeah, oh yeah, they're up there at PFF. I believe too. Man, 0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.560 this Cardinals team, this is where I like Matt Brown 0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:03.680 and I talked about this was the scariest team to 0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:04.920 bet on or bet against. 0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.640 I want to love this Cardinals team. But man, they're tough. Man. 0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:11.160 Sometimes they just lay in a Yesterday that was a 0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:14.759 bad game. Next all right, Next up, Colts at Patriots. 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.320 I don't love any of these so far except for 0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:19.879 except for you know, it's what I like the best 0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:25.319 so far. I like that Green Bays only three points 0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:28.400 against Miami. That's my favorite so far. What's next? 0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:29.600 Colt sat. 0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:34.960 Patriots five and seven. Colts still harboring playoff hopes despite 0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:37.880 their loss yesterday at the three and nine Patriots, not 0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:39.160 harboring much of anything. 0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:40.920 You threw me off of that joke initially because I 0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:43.399 thought you were gonna go with a harbuying or something. Yeah, 0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.880 I'm already. I'm already preparing for the horrible harbor packages 0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:47.600 and jokes today. 0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:50.239 Oh I know. Indianapolis held the two hundred and sixty 0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:52.880 eight total yards and their loss yesterday to the Lions 0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:55.040 and only eleven first downs. The Patriots held the two 0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:58.560 hundred and sixty nine total yards against the Dolphins. Something's 0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:03.040 got to give Colts by three. This is Colts two 0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:05.440 and a half, not even getting the full three. 0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:09.160 South Points got three up. A couple of shops with three. 0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:11.120 But you know why. I guess Chrissy likes my number better. 0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:13.799 That's that's right, Chrissie likes your number better. It is 0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:14.440 mainly two and a. 0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:17.719 Half though, juice to the indie side. Um, all right, 0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:18.360 let's do another. 0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:21.760 Okay, raising three cru Seahawks at Jets. 0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:22.839 This one's quick, all right. 0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:27.360 The six and five Seahawks, who now are co leaders 0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:31.120 of the NFC West with Arizona. They're both six and five, 0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.040 and the Rams and the Niners are both five and six. 0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:36.960 Six and five Seahawks at the three and eight Jets. 0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:40.000 You're right to the uh to the person who tweeted 0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:41.960 and said we don't have to recap the Jets, thank goodness, 0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:46.040 because they were idle Seattle minus. I know how much 0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:49.400 the market loves the Jets irrationally, so it's probably only 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.080 Seattle minus three. 0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:56.719 Okay, this is very interesting. We are Seattle one and 0:43:56.719 --> 0:44:02.120 a half at DraftKings Wow, Westgate has two and a 0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:05.560 half up on this game, and Circa just open pick him. 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.200 So we are a little all over the place where 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:10.279 Circa just went to pick him. 0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:12.600 I should say, how about the reports that Aaron Rodgers 0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:15.040 wants to play but just not with the Jets next year? 0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:18.759 How about that this guy? Do we all find it? 0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:21.040 Do you all finally get how how ridiculous this guy 0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:22.759 is yet? Do we all get that yet? I want 0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:24.600 to say, remember last year when I was screaming at 0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:26.960 you all about oh, he can't come back from the Achilles. 0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:30.520 He's talking Schmack, and all these hack doctors on Twitter 0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:32.399 were like, oh, yeah, he's right, he can go back. No, 0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:34.200 everything he talks about, his nonsense. 0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:36.719 I want to say, who'd make that gamble to bring 0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:37.120 him in? 0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:37.719 But I don't know. 0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:39.680 There's so many bad football teams. 0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:42.880 You do not want this dude on your franchise. Plus 0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:45.040 he's gonna be forty one. What are you doing? What 0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:46.160 do you think he can give you? 0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:47.680 He's not giving anything right. 0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:52.799 Now except for pure chaos stress. I can come up 0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.400 with other words, but the segment's ending more guessing lines, 0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:57.759 looking for value. It's a numbers game at vasis the 0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:05.040 sports betting network. 0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:07.840 The numbers told the story they always do. It's one 0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:09.759 of those idiots who believe in the analytics. 0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:13.960 This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander, our. 0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:16.480 Number two, but numbers game at Visa, these sports betting Network, 0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:20.560 Visa dot Com, Game plus, iHeart Radio, YouTube TV. Have 0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:22.880 you taken this s in? We appreciate it. It's Gil Alexander, 0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:25.920 It's my little buddy, Kelly Bidlin. Everybody here, producer number nine, 0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:29.080 so much more than a producer. You and I were just, Oh, 0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:30.960 you're about to re read a text or something right there. 0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:33.520 Oh, I might have to say. I got a I 0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:35.120 got a tweet real quick. I pulled up from an 0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:41.239 underdog comparing Adrian Peterson's twenty twelve season MVP that year, right, 0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:43.440 that was the one you want MVP to versus twenty 0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:46.360 twenty four. Saquon and guys, I think we have a 0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:50.040 Saquon Barkley graphic ascent of odds movement rush yards through 0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:54.040 eleven games, twelve thirty six for Peterson, thirteen ninety two 0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:58.160 for Saquon Barkley, total touchdown seven for Adrian Peterson, twelve 0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.920 for Saquon Barkley, rush yards per game one hundred and 0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:03.400 twelve vers. One hundred and twenty. 0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:07.319 Six and Saquon from November twenty first, which is what 0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:08.120 four days ago. 0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:10.520 Yeah, this Thursday to day, he was plus. 0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:11.799 One oh five for Offensive Player of the Year. He's 0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:14.600 now minus three ten because he totally is now the 0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:16.400 favorite for Offensive Player of the Year, as he should be. 0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:21.279 MVP has gone from forty to one to five to one. 0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:26.640 Only Lamar and Josh Allen a shorter in the MVP market. 0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:28.919 We haven't gotten to the Eagles game from last night, 0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:33.759 but Saquon had twenty six carries for two hundred and 0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:37.279 fifty five yards rushing now two point fifty five. That 0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:39.680 is the Eagles franchise record that he set last night, 0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:42.440 two hundred fifty five. It's one of the ten greatest 0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:44.560 rushing games in the history of the NFL. By the way, 0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:46.880 he also got four passes for forty seven yards. He 0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:51.439 is on pace for twenty one fifty one. That would 0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.720 break Eric Dickerson's all time record of twenty one oh five, 0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:58.400 which he said in nineteen eighty four. His five hundred 0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:00.719 yards from scrimmage over the last two games are the 0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:05.040 most since Sweetness Walter Payton did it in nineteen seventy seven, 0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:08.880 and his third game this year last night, he had 0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.120 over three hundred yards in scrimmage. His third game last 0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:13.960 night with one hundred and ninety five plus yards from scrimmage. 0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:16.120 The rest of the NFL has three combined. 0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:18.000 Absurd. 0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:19.160 That is absurd. 0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:23.560 He was that tweet kind of stopped you by tracks 0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:27.200 just because I saw this odds movement, and my initial 0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:31.640 reaction Gill was great, He's awesome. No chance MVP in 0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:34.600 today's NFL. No chance five to one. You gotta make 0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:39.000 that three times is long at least. But man, you 0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:42.319 start dominating what Adrian Peterson did that year. Okay, it's 0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:42.960 a conversation. 0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.440 Well, when you start mentioning Eric Dickerson and Walter Payton, yes, 0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:51.640 more so than even that, the question becomes, though, do 0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:54.280 you buy into the Aaron Shotts thing? Right? Aaron shots 0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:56.799 is one of the fifty voters, he says, the way 0:47:56.840 --> 0:48:00.600 he votes is MVP is a quarterback. Defensive Player of 0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:03.560 the Year is the sort of repository for everybody else 0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:05.920 who's not a quarterback. The question that I always ask 0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.200 him is do you feel of the other forty nine? 0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:10.560 Do you think most think your way, he goes. I 0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:12.359 don't know, some do, some don't. 0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:15.200 Yeah, And I think I think most years that's how 0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:17.480 I look at it too. I think it's tough though, 0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:20.239 when you have guys like Josh Allen Lamar Jackson have 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.719 been so good, and when you already look at it 0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:24.640 that way, I think it's tough to put a running 0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:25.040 back up. 0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:29.720 There and the Ravens, the Ravens and the Eagles play, 0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:33.240 don't they coming up? Yes? Okay, so you'll have Lamar 0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:36.799 Jackson and you'll have Lamar Jackson and Saquon on the 0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:40.240 field together. You have Lamar Jackson on Monday Night Football tonight, 0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:43.400 twenty five touchdown passes in three picks. 0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:45.759 It's gonna be tough to beat that. 0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:48.520 It's tough. It's tough to overcome that. Him and Josh Allen. 0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:50.480 Josh Allen blongs up there in that conversation too. But 0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:51.719 if I had to make a bet right now, would 0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:52.280 be on Lamar. 0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:54.960 Yeah. The thing is, also, if you do the literal 0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:57.440 MVP discussion, if you're like, okay, let's talk about it 0:48:57.520 --> 0:49:00.840 literally speaking most valuable player. The way that I like 0:49:00.880 --> 0:49:03.000 to think about that is, Okay, if you remove that 0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:05.480 player from that team, what does that team become? Well, 0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:07.880 if you remove Josh Allen from the Bills, yeah, what 0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:08.319 the hell? 0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:10.640 Or they I mean, then it's then it's then it 0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:14.759 is Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes for sure, right right then 0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:17.080 Patrick Mahomes. Would he goes back in that conversation. I 0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:19.239 don't care about interceptions. I don't care about anything like 0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:20.360 that because he keeps winning. 0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:22.720 You ball came, oh, we'll have Drew on tomorrow. Drew Denzik. 0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:24.640 I think he I heard that he made a big 0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:27.480 bet on man Mahomes to win MVP. I think mon 0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:28.279 Asano told me that. 0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:29.799 I think he brought it up the last last week 0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:31.719 or the week before that. He still liked him and 0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:36.760 those odds. I just don't see that happening. But anyway, 0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:38.520 just an amazing performance and I just want to take 0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:39.919 the flip side of that before we get to the games. 0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:42.040 The flip side of that is everybody is obviously killing 0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:44.200 Joe Shane of the Giants the GM. If you watch 0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:47.200 the hard Knocks, the preseason hard Knocks on the Giants, 0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:49.759 it was great because they really let you behind the 0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:53.040 scenes of the Giants and all the decision making about 0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:57.560 letting Saquon go, and then the angst of the owner. Please, 0:49:57.800 --> 0:49:59.600 i'd you know, I'd hate it if he ended up 0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:02.839 with Phil That's where he ended up. And it's interesting. 0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:05.640 Because people don't like to hold two thoughts in their 0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:07.840 head at the same time, right, because it's very easy 0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:12.080 to just destroy them for letting Saquon Barkley go. And 0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:13.680 if you're a Giants fan, none of this is going 0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:15.720 to give you solace. Let me just say that in advance. 0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:18.319 Either way, you guys are miserable, and I get it, 0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:21.520 but I do want to say this the Giants mistake. 0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:23.680 And we've said this. I've said this on a numbers 0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:28.000 game for the entire duration of a numbers game. Some team, 0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:30.279 because you could only win a Super Bowl with a 0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:33.000 quarterback over performing on a rookie deal or with a 0:50:33.000 --> 0:50:36.200 Hall of Famer. It is incumbent upon some team that 0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:39.359 drafts a quarterback high to say, you know what, we're 0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:41.960 not going to give this guy nine figures. We are 0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:44.000 not going to succumb to this. As much as we 0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:46.400 thought he was our guy, he's not our guy. I 0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:48.000 remember I used to say it when the Rams had 0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:50.760 Jared Goff. I used to say that the Rams should 0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:53.240 be the first team that have built everybody around Jared 0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:55.640 Goff that should move on from Jared Goff. Now, they 0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:57.200 ended up getting to a super Bowl, and they ended 0:50:57.239 --> 0:50:59.120 up trading him. It was a whole different thing, but 0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:02.000 the point being that their mistake was paying Daniel Jones, 0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:06.759 and every decision thereafter was because of that decision. So 0:51:06.840 --> 0:51:10.960 when you pay Daniel Jones the big contract, then it 0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:16.840 followed in a vacuum that actually signing a twenty seven 0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:19.919 year old running back to a team with a bad 0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:22.080 offensive line and a team that's probably not going anywhere 0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:25.480 in a vacuum, that's actually kind of a sound decision. 0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:28.040 You can't really blame them for that. What you can 0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:30.880 blame them for, though, is the fact that you allocated 0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:33.360 all those resources to the quarterback who wasn't going to 0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:34.520 do anything, who, by the way, is not on your 0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:38.360 team now anyway either. That's where the problem starts. So 0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:41.440 you can kill Shane for that, the sort of retroactive 0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:44.520 I can't believe they didn't keep Saquon Barkley. I get 0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:46.960 why they let him go. I get it. 0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:50.719 So, yes, in each situation is different, right, But I 0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:52.160 do think one of the things we've seen in the 0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:54.640 NFL this year is hey, some of these stud running 0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:57.080 backs still matter. And it's not just Saquon level, right, 0:51:57.239 --> 0:51:59.719 I mean, it's Joe Mixon down in Houston, it's Aaron 0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:02.480 jonezones in Minnesota. These guys that are good and have 0:52:02.560 --> 0:52:04.799 been doing it well for a while are smattering to 0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:05.600 these football teams. 0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:09.760 Taequon would have made the Giants incrementally better, but they wouldn't. 0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:11.920 They would they have gone to the playoffs, by the way, 0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:13.000 And I was the guy who was saying to remember 0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:15.000 when they had the year and day Bowl became the 0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:16.560 coach of the year, I was the guy who had 0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:18.640 the all season unders on them. The next year, everybody 0:52:18.640 --> 0:52:21.880 thought I was crazy because day Ball got credit for 0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:25.080 stuff that wasn't him. That the Giants defense and offense 0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:27.640 were so good inside the twenties and then the red 0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:30.640 zone they were magically I mean, they were so bad 0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:32.319 inside the twenties, as you say, and then in the 0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:36.239 red zone they were magically great. That's not day Ball, right, 0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:40.120 that's a very you know, regress to the mean kind 0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:42.520 of thing. And sure enough they stunk after that. And 0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:44.320 by the way, Daball and Shane are both gonna be 0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:49.600 gone day. Ball's gonna lose his job, probably justifiably Shane 0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:52.359 because he was there, he was the GM when they 0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:54.920 paid Jones. He should probably lose his job because of that. 0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:57.920 But the Saquon stuff, and again, like I'm saying, it's 0:52:57.920 --> 0:53:00.400 not gonna make Giants fans happy, but yeah, for you 0:53:00.480 --> 0:53:03.160 guys either way. But like the people who are talking 0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:05.680 about that in a vacuum, in a vacuum, I get it. 0:53:06.160 --> 0:53:08.840 And by the way, thirty two other teams. This is 0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:10.560 the thing that I'm talking about with the old you know, 0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:13.600 numbers game in philosophy about one of these quarterbacks who 0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:15.440 you clearly see is not gonna be a Hall of Famer. 0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:18.120 You have to resist the temptation, right, you have to 0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:20.040 resist the temptation. But it's so hard because then you're 0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:22.960 worried about the alternative. If we don't pay dak, if 0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:25.439 we don't pay Kirk Cousins, if we don't pay fill 0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:28.319 in the blank, what's the alternative? And it takes a 0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:30.759 remarkable amount of onions to do that. 0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:33.440 The thing is, I think it's for me. I think 0:53:33.440 --> 0:53:35.200 it's only gonna get worse with what you see in 0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:37.319 college football right now? Are these kids that we've now 0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:39.839 gotten to the point with the transfer portal where it's, oh, 0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:42.600 you're gonna bench me because I'm not playing well, I'm 0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:44.920 out of here, right And then the kid Boston Colleges 0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:47.200 do do that this year. Fine, I got benched, I'm 0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:50.000 off the team. I'm transferring. Immediately, get me away from here. 0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:51.239 Let's squeeze one in here, all right. 0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:53.959 Titans at Commander's Early Window On Sunday. 0:53:53.600 --> 0:53:58.200 Titans beat the Houston Texans. This game was sort of 0:53:58.200 --> 0:54:01.160 bananas too. Damian Pierce eighty yard takeoff return to start 0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:04.239 for the Texans. First place Stroud de cad Stover with 0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:08.520 fourteen forty two left in the first seven and zhering Texans, 0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:10.080 You're like, oh, we know this is going to go 0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:14.480 Noop seven to three. Houston Tennessee ten plays eighty nine 0:54:14.560 --> 0:54:18.600 yard drive Billy Levi's to Westbrook Akine wide open from 0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:21.160 thirty eight out right after Levis converted a fourth and 0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:23.680 one on the naked bootle like ten to seven Titans 0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:26.400 late first quarter. Next time they got the ball, ninety 0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:29.040 five yard drive started with an incredible seventeen yard pollered 0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:31.600 run where he bounced out to the left, ending with 0:54:31.640 --> 0:54:33.880 a Pollared ten yard touchdown run set up by Levester 0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:38.080 Ridley sixty three yard hookup two plays earlier seventeen to 0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:42.600 seven Titans. Could this be Houston's like nah seventy eight 0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:44.640 yard drive Stroud to Collins from five out to Dell 0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:48.080 from thirty nine the big chunk seventeen to fourteen Tennessee 0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:50.120 first and tendeth the Houston thirty two Pollard hit by 0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:53.400 Tim Centle fumbles. Mario Edwards Junior recovers Stroud to Collins 0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:56.040 for fifty six to start the drive. Suirlelyy, Houston's going 0:54:56.080 --> 0:54:57.480 to take the lead? No, They settle for a fair 0:54:57.480 --> 0:55:00.640 baron field goal twenty eight yard seventeen apiece and then 0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:03.120 Houston trying to run out the clock second and ten 0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:05.759 from their own fourteen in the first half Stroud picked 0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:08.640 by Jarvis Brownlee Junior, that set up a Folk fifty 0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:11.960 six yarder to make it twenty to seventeen Tennessee at 0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:14.200 the half. It get to twenty three to seventeen after 0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:17.600 sunk a fifty one yarder Houston second and tenth their 0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:20.040 own twenty five. Stroud picked by Kenneth Murray, Tennessee set 0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:21.759 up at the Houston thirty nine third play, third and 0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:25.840 eleven at the Houston forty Jimmy Ward sixty yard pick six, 0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:31.000 and the entire game changes. Heughs Tennessee was in such 0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:34.440 control of this, the former oilers, if you will such 0:55:34.480 --> 0:55:36.680 control of this. And now all of a sudden, the 0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:38.520 Texans take the twenty four to twenty three lead with 0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:41.160 seconds eleven and third quarter. Then Houston would have a 0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:43.840 three and out, but a punt return was fumbled by 0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:47.120 Jakwan Jackson. Chris Boyd recovers led to a fairbaron fifty 0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:50.240 four yard field goal is record twelfth of the year 0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:53.600 fifty plus. That's a record twelve of those this year 0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:56.560 for fairbaron twenty seven to twenty three, Houston nine to 0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:59.719 forty six left, first play, Levis to Chigokonko for seventy 0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:03.960 Where was the defense? Touchdown? Thirty to twenty seven Titans. 0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:07.520 What a game? And then fair Bairn misses a twenty 0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:10.920 eight yarder wide left the guy who's made twelve from 0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:14.360 fifty plus with one fifty three left. Next time, Houston 0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:16.480 had the ball because they had one more chance, one 0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:19.160 more chance. After a sack by Jeffrey Simmons, third and 0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:21.400 seventeen at their own one. Stroud sacked by Harol Landry 0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:24.080 safety thirty two to twenty seven on side free kick. 0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:26.120 They got to declare that as well. I do declare 0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:30.360 their own side free kick. Tennessee recovers ball game thirty 0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:34.680 two to twenty seven. Titans, they do it. They're at Washington. Yeah, 0:56:34.719 --> 0:56:38.719 were already talked about that. Seven and five Washington, three 0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:40.880 and eight Tennessee, Washington based on what they were favored 0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:42.319 last week. I'll say by six here. 0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:44.200 Yeah, you're about right on at five and a half's 0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:46.040 mainly out there right now, but five to. 0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:51.560 Six a must win situation for the taco holders of Washington. 0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:54.760 Let's go coming back more guessing line six. 0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:06.160 Numbers game on VS the Sports Betting Network. 0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:08.000 If you haven't become a vsent Pro subscriber yet, now 0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:10.759 it's your chance to start start betting smarter. I should 0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:13.120 say and say big. 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Oh boy enjoy. 0:57:58.200 --> 0:58:03.360 Yeah, sure, you guys are all Jason today JC five 0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:06.840 six two zero seven six again because zero seven five 0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:09.400 was taken heading to Vegas Friday, starting at Fountain Blue 0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:11.400 looking for a traditional Thanksgiving meal. 0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:16.320 Any recommendations, Happy Thanksgiving, numbers game, family, Happy Thanksgiving to you? 0:58:16.440 --> 0:58:23.040 J C five six two zero seven six is your 0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:23.680 real name? 0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:27.120 I have enjoyed the the South Point Buffet a couple 0:58:27.240 --> 0:58:29.960 times on Thanksgiving. That's a good go to. 0:58:30.240 --> 0:58:33.640 Yeah, you know what, maybe chef Chef Keith does a 0:58:33.680 --> 0:58:36.720 great job down there. What do they do in the 0:58:36.760 --> 0:58:39.200 actual they do a Thanksgiving bus. 0:58:39.640 --> 0:58:40.880 I think it's been a couple of years since I've 0:58:40.880 --> 0:58:42.400 been now, so don't hold me to it. Check on 0:58:42.440 --> 0:58:42.960 it first, but. 0:58:42.960 --> 0:58:45.400 Yes, you know what I mean, we'll do that. Maybe 0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:49.560 I'll do That's a great suggestion. Brian moriannon completely hypothetical. 0:58:49.680 --> 0:58:51.560 But what if I told you to Rod Taylor was 0:58:51.600 --> 0:58:54.440 starting for the Jets. Does that bring you closer to 0:58:54.560 --> 0:58:56.720 the minus one and a half in favor of Seattle? 0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:02.520 I don't know, because there's the thing Torot Taylor ended 0:59:02.560 --> 0:59:04.840 up being like eighth in my backup quarterback rankings. The 0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:08.760 problem is we haven't seen him for years really playing was. 0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:14.040 He also didn't he have like a rough preseason preseason. 0:59:13.760 --> 0:59:16.240 His his superpower in his career was always that he 0:59:16.240 --> 0:59:18.800 doesn't turn the ball over. But again his we haven't 0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:20.960 seen a bulk of play from him for a few years. 0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:23.880 Jed O'Connor. Hard to feel bad, Aaron Rodgers. The window 0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:26.880 was last year. If fate has it, another championship isn't 0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:31.040 meant to happen. Yeah, the window lasted four plays jud 0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:36.680 before the before the Achilles, Andrew Wrinn cornbread Ceriso stuffing 0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:41.520 game changer. Oh boy, oh boy, burn bread Curriso's stuffing. 0:59:41.600 --> 0:59:43.360 Let me know what time I should come over. I'll 0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:43.960 bring a whiskey. 0:59:44.000 --> 0:59:46.320 This reminds me of people. You know, the best breakfast 0:59:46.360 --> 0:59:51.560 burrito in San Francisco has fried chicken and tater tots 0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:54.400 in it. It's like, are we cheating with that? Because 0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:58.600 it's just it's just unbelievably good. But that cornbread Cherriso's stuffing, 0:59:59.160 --> 1:00:01.520 torch Dads. I think the notion that MVP is a 1:00:01.600 --> 1:00:05.600 quarterback only award is hogwash. Saquan is the most valuable 1:00:05.600 --> 1:00:06.960 player on one of the best teams in the league, 1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:09.720 and look at the remaining schedule. Here's the question. He says, 1:00:09.720 --> 1:00:12.040 if MVP goes to a running back, would Offensive Player 1:00:12.080 --> 1:00:14.640 of the Year go to a quarterback. My answer to 1:00:14.640 --> 1:00:16.640 that last question is yes, yeah, you would. I think 1:00:16.720 --> 1:00:22.600 so absolutely would so too. Corbin. Good morning, guys. I'm sorry. 1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:24.800 If I show up at Thanksgiving dinner and there are 1:00:24.840 --> 1:00:27.240 Raisins in any capacity, I'm leaving immediately and not coming 1:00:27.280 --> 1:00:31.000 back next year. Raisins do not belong anywhere near Thanksgiving. Sorry, 1:00:31.080 --> 1:00:31.720 not sorry. 1:00:32.160 --> 1:00:33.360 Oh, completely agree. 1:00:33.720 --> 1:00:37.720 Oh, Roger Jones, this is unbelievable. He goes wild. Guess here, 1:00:38.320 --> 1:00:43.000 you recently watch the murder of Air McNair. All right, 1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:44.720 this is a little creepy because I did. How do 1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:48.920 you know that, Roger? He didn't say, have you? He 1:00:49.000 --> 1:00:52.840 goes you recently watched the murder of Air McNair. I have? 1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:54.960 But why did you know that I watched that? That's 1:00:54.960 --> 1:00:56.520 a little that's a bit of a creepy tweet. 1:00:56.680 --> 1:00:59.600 Well, what a maybe hatch or streaming service? Which one 1:00:59.640 --> 1:00:59.800 is it on? 1:01:00.280 --> 1:01:03.280 Did I say something from that that they came out 1:01:03.320 --> 1:01:07.560 on the show? Otherwise these Netflix sort of watching what 1:01:07.600 --> 1:01:12.840 I'm watching and tapped into my stream Netflix. Oh so, 1:01:12.880 --> 1:01:14.680 off the air, we were having a discussion as we do, 1:01:15.120 --> 1:01:17.640 and you know, we're just I was just thinking, like, 1:01:17.800 --> 1:01:19.440 what is the headline like if you had to at 1:01:19.440 --> 1:01:22.040 this point through twelve weeks of the NFL season, if 1:01:22.040 --> 1:01:25.520 you had to write a headline, And obviously there were 1:01:25.520 --> 1:01:28.120 obvious ones Detroit ten and one maybe the best team 1:01:28.160 --> 1:01:30.720 all this, But I honestly think like, when I look 1:01:30.840 --> 1:01:33.320 back at the first twelve weeks of this NFL season, 1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:35.920 it's what you and I just talked about this is 1:01:35.960 --> 1:01:41.320 the year of the bizarro kicker performance, where we talked 1:01:41.320 --> 1:01:43.360 about this a lot the first bunch of weeks of 1:01:43.360 --> 1:01:47.080 the season. Nobody misses long field goals anymore, to the 1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:50.560 point fifty plus, to the point where teams were settling 1:01:50.920 --> 1:01:53.480 for fifty plus yard field goals to win games at 1:01:53.480 --> 1:01:56.120 the end. Remember we had that Butcker game where cheeess 1:01:56.120 --> 1:01:57.520 are like, yeah, I'm just kicked the fifty one yard 1:01:57.560 --> 1:02:00.760 and we'll win it. Whereas again, you know, in the eighties, 1:02:01.560 --> 1:02:05.200 Mark Moseley won a NFL MVP in nineteen eighty two, 1:02:06.440 --> 1:02:10.000 never kicking one past fifty yards and only making five 1:02:10.560 --> 1:02:14.040 between forty and forty nine, like it's just it's unbelievable thing. 1:02:14.280 --> 1:02:17.600 But simultaneously with that statement is never have we seen 1:02:17.640 --> 1:02:19.880 a season where kickers have made so many And I 1:02:19.920 --> 1:02:21.920 agree with what you were saying off air, and never 1:02:22.000 --> 1:02:25.480 have we seen one where they're missing like the chippiest 1:02:25.480 --> 1:02:26.120 of chips. 1:02:26.160 --> 1:02:28.400 I mean the blocks, the misses that I mean. 1:02:28.320 --> 1:02:30.720 We go well extra points now too, right, I mean we. 1:02:30.760 --> 1:02:35.640 Got kiders talking about low trajectories like trajectory bro like 1:02:35.800 --> 1:02:38.280 it's it's I wrote down a few things just of 1:02:38.640 --> 1:02:41.680 things I've noticed the offensive line gaps between teams. Some 1:02:41.720 --> 1:02:43.520 of these teams that are just so good on the 1:02:43.560 --> 1:02:46.080 offensive line rolling through the rest of the league, while 1:02:46.080 --> 1:02:49.120 so other teams they've got pieces with the offensive lines terrible. 1:02:49.240 --> 1:02:50.800 I think one the other one stands it. This all 1:02:50.800 --> 1:02:53.880 comes off us talking about the running backs last segment. 1:02:54.040 --> 1:02:56.360 The other one that's so obvious to be just watching 1:02:56.400 --> 1:02:59.280 this year. There are so many good nickelbacks in the 1:02:59.360 --> 1:03:01.880 league because it's a great one. It's so important you 1:03:01.920 --> 1:03:04.600 play out of that five defensive back set so much 1:03:04.600 --> 1:03:07.320 more often now. And these nickel backs are asked to 1:03:07.360 --> 1:03:10.120 do so much at the line of scrimmage with receivers. 1:03:10.240 --> 1:03:14.000 But in these outside corners they can't tackle at all. 1:03:14.120 --> 1:03:17.320 That like, they wear nothing, shoulder bads. We're just concerned 1:03:17.360 --> 1:03:20.280 about them covering big you know, we're big receivers downfield, 1:03:20.440 --> 1:03:22.840 and whenever you see a Saquad Barkley or something run 1:03:22.840 --> 1:03:24.959 it at these guys, you're like, oh, they got no chance. 1:03:25.040 --> 1:03:28.120 Cooper to Jane no bigger than with the Eagles. Yeah, 1:03:28.360 --> 1:03:30.320 him into the lineup. It's been a change. Let's go 1:03:30.360 --> 1:03:32.040 to another game here, Okay, here we go. 1:03:32.240 --> 1:03:34.240 We are on Texans at Jaguars. 1:03:34.280 --> 1:03:38.280 Blufinacaro textan, Hey Gil, thanks. She just reminded me I 1:03:38.320 --> 1:03:40.440 have to get a small box of Raisins for my dressing. 1:03:41.360 --> 1:03:41.960 What was the game? 1:03:42.760 --> 1:03:44.840 Texans and Jaguars seven and five. 1:03:44.680 --> 1:03:47.560 Texans two and nine. Jaguars, who right now are the 1:03:47.640 --> 1:03:49.240 leader in the clubhouse for the number one pick in 1:03:49.280 --> 1:03:52.040 the draft. Houston held the two hundred and sixty total 1:03:52.160 --> 1:03:55.640 yards against Tennessee Houston minus five and a half. I'll 1:03:55.640 --> 1:03:56.640 put it in no man's land. 1:03:56.720 --> 1:03:59.320 Yeah, that is exactly where we're at on this game. 1:03:59.440 --> 1:04:01.360 Some five wanted to see where this mood we are 1:04:01.400 --> 1:04:03.960 five and a half. Basically, everyone, I should say this. 1:04:04.080 --> 1:04:06.480 Remember how before the season this looked like it was 1:04:06.520 --> 1:04:09.600 going to be a late season mega matchup in the 1:04:09.600 --> 1:04:13.640 AFC South. Yeah, not so much. Yeah, what is it? 1:04:13.400 --> 1:04:14.920 What it was? Line? Was it? Line? 1:04:14.960 --> 1:04:15.360 Five and a half? 1:04:15.360 --> 1:04:15.919 Here? Okay? 1:04:16.000 --> 1:04:19.080 Yeah, next four oh five Eastern Rams at Saints. 1:04:19.120 --> 1:04:20.640 All right, this gives us a chance to talk further 1:04:20.640 --> 1:04:22.440 about that Rams Eagles game last night, in case you 1:04:22.480 --> 1:04:25.480 missed it. Uh. It followed the same trajectory of these 1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:28.760 Eagles games against the Bengals against Washington, which is to 1:04:28.760 --> 1:04:30.680 say that a team played with them for about an hour, 1:04:30.800 --> 1:04:33.800 for about a half and then once the second half started, 1:04:33.800 --> 1:04:36.520 the Eagles just wore down their opponents. In all of 1:04:36.560 --> 1:04:39.360 these games, Rams matriculated the ball. They won fifty three 1:04:39.440 --> 1:04:41.600 yards on four plays to start the game first intended 1:04:41.640 --> 1:04:44.840 the Eagle seventeen Kyron hit by Isaiah Rodgers, fumbles Nakobe 1:04:44.840 --> 1:04:48.320 Dean recovers. By the way, they needed replay assist to 1:04:48.480 --> 1:04:51.880 verify that Sirianni's challenge flag was in tough. 1:04:52.600 --> 1:04:53.200 Things in this game. 1:04:53.200 --> 1:04:55.000 From that, oh, looky, so that was the first thing. 1:04:55.560 --> 1:04:57.959 Then three to nothing, Philadelphia Rams go nine plays, seventy 1:04:58.040 --> 1:04:59.960 yards this time no fumble, Kyroen in from one set 1:05:00.160 --> 1:05:03.560 the three Rams late first quarter, later seven to six 1:05:03.680 --> 1:05:07.120 Rams Philly sixty two yards hurts to Brown from six out. 1:05:07.320 --> 1:05:09.640 Philly leaves it thirteen to seven, and that's what it 1:05:09.640 --> 1:05:11.080 would be at the half as well. 1:05:10.920 --> 1:05:12.680 And we had to go That's when we had to 1:05:12.720 --> 1:05:16.040 go for a review for Rachel where A. J. Brown 1:05:16.240 --> 1:05:18.600 caught it and took seventeen steps in the end zone, 1:05:18.640 --> 1:05:19.760 but we needed to go review that. 1:05:19.800 --> 1:05:22.720 I believe it was seventeen seventeen before the ball was hushing. 1:05:22.760 --> 1:05:23.840 He ran a full marathon. 1:05:23.920 --> 1:05:27.160 Oh, I'm getting to the best part. Third quarter, first 1:05:27.200 --> 1:05:31.600 play Saquon for seventy touchdown twenty to seven, Eagles, fourteen 1:05:31.720 --> 1:05:34.680 forty nine left in the third Rams seventy yards questionable 1:05:34.720 --> 1:05:36.840 PI in the end zone. Stafford to DeMarcus Robinson from 1:05:36.840 --> 1:05:40.240 two out twenty to fourteen, and now comes the Eagles 1:05:40.280 --> 1:05:42.840 portion of the ball game. Philly seven plays seventy yards 1:05:42.880 --> 1:05:44.880 four to thirty four, Hurts to Saquon for thirty one, 1:05:44.960 --> 1:05:47.120 sets up gain will In from thirteen twenty seven to 1:05:47.120 --> 1:05:50.200 fourteen Eagles. Cardi misses a forty seven yard or wide 1:05:50.320 --> 1:05:55.160 right after Sirianni declines a penalty, sees that the Rams 1:05:55.160 --> 1:05:57.720 were gonna go for it on fourth and three, then 1:05:57.840 --> 1:06:01.200 decides to change his mind. We have to stop with this. 1:06:01.640 --> 1:06:04.600 Remember this happened on Thursday night with Mike Tomlin. Also 1:06:04.960 --> 1:06:08.320 he made a decision on an opponent's flag. He then 1:06:08.480 --> 1:06:11.880 changed his mind. We can't have this anymore. You have 1:06:11.960 --> 1:06:14.240 to stick to what you have. Chris Collinsworth was making 1:06:14.280 --> 1:06:16.160 the point after the game last night. If this were 1:06:16.200 --> 1:06:18.560 us playing on a playground, we'd be like, no, you 1:06:18.640 --> 1:06:21.320 already said that, No, you can't do this. You can't 1:06:21.320 --> 1:06:23.880 allow Syrian and oh that's what that's what Sean McVay 1:06:23.960 --> 1:06:25.880 is gonna do. I'll change my mind. I will take 1:06:25.880 --> 1:06:28.439 the penalty. No, stop it. You were dumb the first time. 1:06:28.560 --> 1:06:31.320 You need to be accountable for the for being dumb. There, 1:06:31.400 --> 1:06:33.440 that's my that's my No. I like it. 1:06:33.440 --> 1:06:36.400 But your problem, your problem is with how it's being official. 1:06:36.480 --> 1:06:38.280 Yeah, no, you have to. You can't let him change 1:06:38.280 --> 1:06:40.200 his mind. Elliott then makes the field goal thirty to 1:06:40.240 --> 1:06:43.600 fourteen Philly fourth and one at their own eighteen. They 1:06:43.600 --> 1:06:45.720 get in a took this push. Look they draw the 1:06:45.800 --> 1:06:48.600 Rams off sides. Three plays later, Saquan for seventy two 1:06:49.280 --> 1:06:51.960 thirty seven to fourteen Eagles. H it would end up 1:06:52.000 --> 1:06:54.439 with a garbage touchdown. Stafford to cup thirty seven twenty 1:06:54.520 --> 1:06:58.280 is your final and again Nakua nine for one seventeen 1:06:58.400 --> 1:07:01.080 for the Rams. He's so good, so good. This doesn't 1:07:01.120 --> 1:07:02.240 have to do with the Eagles. We'll get to the 1:07:02.240 --> 1:07:05.760 Eagles again later. Rams five and six at New Orleans. 1:07:05.760 --> 1:07:10.200 You said, this is yes, Rams at Saints, Rams five 1:07:10.240 --> 1:07:14.760 and six at New Orleans four and seven New Orleans 1:07:14.760 --> 1:07:15.600 minus one and a half. 1:07:15.720 --> 1:07:20.560 I think this is Rams minus two. 1:07:21.520 --> 1:07:24.720 Ooh I'm way off on that, But the Rams are 1:07:24.760 --> 1:07:26.760 really hard to figure out. This is this is probably 1:07:26.760 --> 1:07:29.120 the hardest line to make of the week, because again 1:07:29.560 --> 1:07:32.040 I'll say this every week, Who are the Rams? Are 1:07:32.040 --> 1:07:36.400 they good? Are they bad? Are they capable of greatness 1:07:36.400 --> 1:07:39.200 on any given day and capable of suckitude any given day? 1:07:39.840 --> 1:07:41.280 Same can be said for New Orleans. 1:07:41.280 --> 1:07:43.600 This feels about right to me, like this is kind 1:07:43.640 --> 1:07:45.520 of the opposite of that Falcon situation. If it was 1:07:45.560 --> 1:07:47.520 your line, I'd probably be betting rams here. 1:07:47.560 --> 1:07:50.080 But way in two man, staying away from now, I'm 1:07:50.080 --> 1:07:52.240 not racing about the Saints coming back looking for. 1:07:52.240 --> 1:08:01.520 Value numbers, gave One said these network you're looking for 1:08:01.600 --> 1:08:01.960 some action. 1:08:02.120 --> 1:08:03.960 Our friends at first bet have you covered? 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Lol, my brain says, the bank roll will suffer. 1:08:40.120 --> 1:08:40.800 Don't do it. 1:08:42.479 --> 1:08:45.160 I mean, if you don't even know about Perdy, you can't. 1:08:44.920 --> 1:08:45.960 Do it right. You can't. 1:08:46.040 --> 1:08:49.040 Yeah, uh, chrisy that would read your tweet, but I 1:08:49.080 --> 1:08:51.400 was too convoluted. I can't read. I can't read it. 1:08:51.640 --> 1:08:53.360 I find a foot I can't read it. New York 1:08:53.400 --> 1:08:56.040 Mess sixteen. So you're telling me we can review if 1:08:56.040 --> 1:08:59.000 a challenge fat flag was thrown in time, but not 1:08:59.080 --> 1:09:01.400 if a player stepped on the boundary because the league 1:09:01.400 --> 1:09:03.960 cannot afford thirty two of those cameras. Do they know 1:09:04.040 --> 1:09:06.320 we bet on this stuff? Scott, I'm right with you, man, 1:09:06.600 --> 1:09:10.240 I'm right with you. It's the boundary cameras. Apparently there's 1:09:10.280 --> 1:09:12.200 a challenge flag thing. Kelly, you were just saying off air. 1:09:12.720 --> 1:09:17.080 Do we remember times where coaches have thrown the challenge 1:09:17.080 --> 1:09:18.880 flag a little too late and they didn't grant it? 1:09:18.960 --> 1:09:19.320 We do? 1:09:20.000 --> 1:09:22.920 Yeah, I mean I sure remember many years ago, Gill 1:09:23.000 --> 1:09:25.640 it being a kind of a comedic thing about the 1:09:25.640 --> 1:09:29.040 coaches having to throw the flag like twenty yards they 1:09:29.200 --> 1:09:31.599 so they could make sure that the ref saw it 1:09:31.680 --> 1:09:32.840 before the play went off. 1:09:32.880 --> 1:09:35.479 Also, okay, there's that. There's the coaches get to change 1:09:35.520 --> 1:09:39.520 their mind now apparently, remember tomlin did it on the 1:09:38.840 --> 1:09:43.240 uh the illegal the illegal touching when the offensive lineman 1:09:43.320 --> 1:09:45.920 touched the ball. He was like, oh no, I'll take it. 1:09:46.120 --> 1:09:48.639 I was only confused when you started that conversation because 1:09:48.640 --> 1:09:50.280 I was like, it's so easy for us to go 1:09:50.360 --> 1:09:54.719 ripping on Siria. Audio was like, is that where Gill's going, Yes. 1:09:55.000 --> 1:09:56.280 You shouldn't be allowed to change your mind. 1:09:56.320 --> 1:09:58.280 And it's good on the coaches. Good on those guys 1:09:58.280 --> 1:10:00.720 for taking advantage of that. Well, a bad room in 1:10:00.760 --> 1:10:02.160 place to use it to your advantage. 1:10:02.200 --> 1:10:04.360 Well, we also don't talk about enough. Is this whole 1:10:04.720 --> 1:10:09.200 blurred notion of replay. It's it's when did replay assist 1:10:09.320 --> 1:10:11.760 arrive right all of a sudden one day It's like, 1:10:11.760 --> 1:10:13.360 oh yeah, we just looked at replay as this took 1:10:13.360 --> 1:10:15.240 three seconds for us to figure it out. Why don't 1:10:15.280 --> 1:10:17.160 you why can't you do it on everything? 1:10:17.200 --> 1:10:18.720 But then it's not always there. I mean, that was 1:10:18.760 --> 1:10:21.679 my biggest problem with with the aj Brown touchdown last night. 1:10:21.920 --> 1:10:23.680 Why we got to go to commercial break and for 1:10:23.760 --> 1:10:25.960 a review for this. I saw a replay right away. 1:10:26.000 --> 1:10:29.840 There's three feet in also college football, this was not, 1:10:30.160 --> 1:10:32.160 you know, material to the final score as it turned out. 1:10:32.320 --> 1:10:35.200 But you see the Alabama game where they just absolutely 1:10:35.320 --> 1:10:37.880 took a touchdown away from Alabama for no reason at 1:10:37.880 --> 1:10:40.040 the end where the guy on the side of like 1:10:40.080 --> 1:10:43.200 a late flag, he's like, yeah, the slot receiver wasn't 1:10:43.200 --> 1:10:46.920 coming up. The replay was like, yeah it was. It's like, 1:10:47.760 --> 1:10:51.760 you can't review that, Like that's unreviewable. Sorry. The things 1:10:51.760 --> 1:10:54.400 that are the most reviewable, remember, like delay of game 1:10:54.479 --> 1:10:57.360 play car you can't review that in the NFL. I'm 1:10:57.400 --> 1:10:59.839 with the replay assist thing is probably more than anything 1:10:59.880 --> 1:11:03.040 we've talked about. It's frustrating because that's the one you 1:11:03.160 --> 1:11:06.440 that makes it sound so easy because they use it arbitrarily. 1:11:06.520 --> 1:11:08.280 It seems like, hey, du if you used it for that, 1:11:08.320 --> 1:11:09.800 why can't you use it for this. By the way, 1:11:10.000 --> 1:11:12.120 you're so nonchalant about it. Oh, it took four seconds 1:11:12.120 --> 1:11:13.679 for you to figure out, Why can't take you four seconds? 1:11:13.680 --> 1:11:15.519 To figure out this because I don't know about you. 1:11:15.560 --> 1:11:17.439 The first time I heard it, I'm like, oh, finally 1:11:17.479 --> 1:11:20.080 there's just some guy watching it like we all are, 1:11:20.160 --> 1:11:21.280 and it's not that hard. 1:11:21.360 --> 1:11:23.559 Sometimes. That's the other thing about it is we're we 1:11:23.640 --> 1:11:25.680 learn things about a sport that we think we know 1:11:25.760 --> 1:11:28.799 everything about. Oh the boundary camera. That was like breaking 1:11:28.880 --> 1:11:32.320 news yesterday. Jason Ice, cool gambler. I'm not sure about you, guys, 1:11:32.320 --> 1:11:35.360 but turkey does not make me thankful on Thanksgiving. I'll 1:11:35.360 --> 1:11:36.840 take a nice steak dinner, no reason. 1:11:37.200 --> 1:11:39.519 Man, don't get me started on this one. Don't get 1:11:39.520 --> 1:11:41.519 me started. We got all the way to do this. 1:11:41.800 --> 1:11:45.080 I love Thanksgiving. Colin Murphy is talking about that. That's 1:11:45.160 --> 1:11:46.599 that creepy tweet I got. 1:11:46.439 --> 1:11:49.560 From Roger Jones where he's like, wild, guess, harey, you 1:11:49.600 --> 1:11:52.840 recently watched the murder of Aeron McNair and I was 1:11:52.920 --> 1:11:55.439 speculating I did something happen in that that I repeated, 1:11:55.520 --> 1:11:58.240 and Colin Murphy goes, did Steve McNair choke on a raisin? 1:11:58.360 --> 1:12:01.920 Or did Oz the mentalist? Just to uh torchdads about 1:12:01.920 --> 1:12:04.160 the Saquon thing? If Saquon he This is interesting because 1:12:04.200 --> 1:12:07.519 a Saquon pulls off MVP, and if Offensive Player of 1:12:07.520 --> 1:12:10.120 the Year is certainly a quarterback, then there's a direct 1:12:10.120 --> 1:12:13.320 correlation and you can parlay that at a place like FanDuel. 1:12:14.040 --> 1:12:15.760 So if you thought Saquon. 1:12:15.400 --> 1:12:17.599 Would an MVP, I love this. 1:12:17.760 --> 1:12:20.800 You could do Lamar Offensive Player of the Year or 1:12:20.880 --> 1:12:21.559 cho was Lamar. 1:12:21.880 --> 1:12:23.640 I mean the your only problem is you've got the 1:12:23.720 --> 1:12:25.720 josh Ala Lamar Jackson problem right now. 1:12:25.840 --> 1:12:28.360 Right, you sure do. But still, let's it's an interesting thought. 1:12:28.560 --> 1:12:30.960 All right, let's get that great point. I'm more to 1:12:31.000 --> 1:12:32.880 get to what do we dot oh four oh five 1:12:32.960 --> 1:12:36.120 Eastern Bucks at Panthers bucks and Panthers five and six bucks. 1:12:37.000 --> 1:12:39.639 The bucks are getting larger in the Falcons rear view 1:12:39.680 --> 1:12:43.720 mirror at Carolina three and eight Carolina given Kansas City 1:12:43.760 --> 1:12:46.240 all they could take, Tampa Bay out gained the Giants 1:12:46.400 --> 1:12:49.280 four fifty to two forty five and Bryce twenty one 1:12:49.280 --> 1:12:51.439 of thirty five for two sixty three for the Panthers. 1:12:51.439 --> 1:12:54.000 Good on Bryce young By, Yeah he is for as 1:12:54.080 --> 1:12:56.200 bad as he was and as much as we killed him, 1:12:56.240 --> 1:12:56.960 he's looking better. 1:12:57.200 --> 1:12:57.679 M hm. 1:12:57.960 --> 1:13:01.599 Tampa Bay minus five and a half. This is on the. 1:13:01.520 --> 1:13:05.800 Road six mainly six seen five and a half six. 1:13:05.840 --> 1:13:08.280 We have five and a half six. All right, keep 1:13:08.320 --> 1:13:11.040 on cruising. We've got four twenty five Eastern your Eagles 1:13:11.040 --> 1:13:13.120 at Ravens, not your Eagles, and the Eagles he brought 1:13:13.200 --> 1:13:14.160 up earlier. 1:13:14.560 --> 1:13:15.960 Is the game with this game of the week, right, 1:13:15.960 --> 1:13:18.599 he gave you reen earlier Birds versus Birds nine and two, 1:13:18.640 --> 1:13:21.599 Eagles seven and four Ravens again. The Ravens don't play 1:13:22.000 --> 1:13:25.800 until tonight for Week twelve, two and a half point, 1:13:26.080 --> 1:13:27.679 two and a half point favorites on the road against 1:13:27.720 --> 1:13:30.439 the Charge. I have all about the Ravens tonight and 1:13:30.479 --> 1:13:35.280 the Hardball Bowl or the hard Bowl, Saquon once again 1:13:35.320 --> 1:13:38.679 because it deserves. Repeating twenty six for two point fifty 1:13:38.760 --> 1:13:42.080 five last night on the ground, that's an Eagles record. Yeah. 1:13:42.080 --> 1:13:44.920 The seventy yards score is seventy two yards score, two touchdowns, 1:13:45.160 --> 1:13:47.920 four catches for forty seven. That means he had three 1:13:48.040 --> 1:13:51.840 hundred and two yards from scrimmage. He is on pace 1:13:51.880 --> 1:13:54.439 for twenty one hundred and fifty one rushing yards after 1:13:54.439 --> 1:13:56.960 that performance. The record is two thousand and one oh five, 1:13:57.720 --> 1:14:00.560 so he's ahead of Eric Dickerson's nineteen eighty four PA 1:14:00.720 --> 1:14:02.840 five hundred yards from scrimmage over the two games. The 1:14:02.920 --> 1:14:05.800 last two games two game span, most in any two 1:14:05.840 --> 1:14:09.679 game span since Sweetness Walter Payton did in nineteen seventy 1:14:09.680 --> 1:14:12.960 seven third game with one hundred ninety five plus yards 1:14:13.000 --> 1:14:15.800 of scrimmage. The rest of the NFL has three combined. 1:14:17.520 --> 1:14:19.519 Aj Brown six for one O nine in a touchdown, 1:14:19.600 --> 1:14:22.280 four hundred and eighty one total yards for the Eagles 1:14:22.280 --> 1:14:24.679 in that win against the Rams last night, three hundred 1:14:24.680 --> 1:14:27.559 and fourteen total rushing. By the way, Brandon Graham, I 1:14:27.600 --> 1:14:31.120 missed this. Torn tricep I know out for the season. 1:14:32.240 --> 1:14:33.760 I read it, write up about this and then we're like, oh, 1:14:33.760 --> 1:14:34.880 it happened early in the game. What do you mean 1:14:34.920 --> 1:14:36.519 it happened early in the game. He played a great game? 1:14:36.840 --> 1:14:37.679 Is that what has said? 1:14:37.760 --> 1:14:39.160 Yeah? I was like, what are you talking about that? 1:14:39.200 --> 1:14:41.639 He was great last He's another one of these guys, 1:14:41.760 --> 1:14:43.479 kind of older guys, has had a great season. 1:14:43.720 --> 1:14:46.360 Torn Tricep out for the season. That's a big loss, 1:14:46.360 --> 1:14:49.400 by the way, Darius Slay with a concussion as well, 1:14:50.080 --> 1:14:52.320 so that you know how that goes, right, That's a 1:14:52.360 --> 1:14:54.120 constantly monitored situation. 1:14:55.479 --> 1:14:59.360 Yeah, you gotta clear what five steps throughout the week, yep, I. 1:14:59.360 --> 1:15:02.000 Have without without seeing Baltimore play. Obviously it's going to 1:15:02.200 --> 1:15:04.559 factor in the performance tonight, but I have Baltimore as 1:15:04.600 --> 1:15:05.600 a two and a half point for. 1:15:05.880 --> 1:15:07.280 Ding, Ding, Ding. You're all over at two and a 1:15:07.320 --> 1:15:09.680 half right now. I'm a little surprised to see some 1:15:09.720 --> 1:15:11.880 of these two and a halfs have become juiced. So 1:15:11.920 --> 1:15:12.880 maybe we get to three. 1:15:13.000 --> 1:15:15.040 I was gonna say three probably doesn't give the Eagles 1:15:15.120 --> 1:15:17.360 enough respect, but two and a half sounds about right. 1:15:17.560 --> 1:15:20.600 Yeah, I'm right there with you the Eagles. 1:15:21.960 --> 1:15:23.719 I mean, that's the game of the week. The Eagles 1:15:23.760 --> 1:15:28.120 are absolutely one of these teams that you just feel like, 1:15:28.200 --> 1:15:31.720 again three games that they've won the leap to mind, Cincinnati, 1:15:31.800 --> 1:15:34.320 Washington and last night against the Rams. You can play 1:15:34.360 --> 1:15:36.479 with them for about a half and then they just 1:15:36.640 --> 1:15:39.760 wear you out. They are so physical on both sides 1:15:39.800 --> 1:15:42.679 of the ball. They just destroyed the Rams on both 1:15:42.720 --> 1:15:45.720 lines of scrimmage last night. And you do wonder in 1:15:45.880 --> 1:15:48.840 January eight Eagles. That's the thing. Now, if you had 1:15:48.840 --> 1:15:50.400 to bet, what would you make a price on an 1:15:50.439 --> 1:15:52.520 Eagles Lions NFC championship? 1:15:52.560 --> 1:15:56.680 At this point where we are in Detroit, I'm guessing. 1:15:56.640 --> 1:15:58.920 We're in Detroit. I'm guessing, but I'm just saying, give 1:15:58.920 --> 1:15:59.920 me the match. Try. 1:16:00.000 --> 1:16:01.800 I actually think it's a good I mean, what we're 1:16:01.800 --> 1:16:04.120 looking at, Eagles and Ravens is probably a good compence 1:16:04.160 --> 1:16:05.559 Detroit two something like that. 1:16:06.720 --> 1:16:09.080 No, I'm saying, what would you put just this was 1:16:09.080 --> 1:16:11.599 a matchup Market So you know how we have Super 1:16:11.600 --> 1:16:14.599 Bowl matchups. Yeah, let's say this was the NFC Championship matchup. 1:16:14.600 --> 1:16:18.000 Mark Gosh, I have no idea, I mean what the matchup. 1:16:17.680 --> 1:16:20.639 Would be because who's number three in the NFC? Now? 1:16:22.160 --> 1:16:25.520 Is it the Here are your choices, the Vikings, the Packers? 1:16:26.479 --> 1:16:27.479 Is there a third choice? 1:16:27.520 --> 1:16:28.920 Yeah, I'm right there with you. I also don't know 1:16:28.920 --> 1:16:32.640 if I remember hearing Gil Alexander this high on the Eagles. 1:16:33.040 --> 1:16:37.240 Because after you see it time after time, who. 1:16:37.120 --> 1:16:40.920 Is number three? I'll go Green Bay? But oh boy, 1:16:41.040 --> 1:16:45.640 is that a that's a light answer. Are Oh well, 1:16:45.720 --> 1:16:49.879 let's do one more squeeze man. Sunday Night Niners, It Bills, Niners, 1:16:49.880 --> 1:16:50.479 it Bills. 1:16:50.680 --> 1:16:53.360 Oh, speaking of games that before the season started, You're like, 1:16:53.640 --> 1:16:58.439 imagine this Sunday Night game come week thirteen, it's the 1:16:58.520 --> 1:17:02.639 five and six Niners who are one game out behind 1:17:02.680 --> 1:17:05.680 both the Rams and the Seahawks in the NFC West 1:17:06.040 --> 1:17:10.719 at Buffalo Buffalo nine and two Buffalo idol this week 1:17:11.200 --> 1:17:14.960 nine and two bills Brandon Allen yesterday and relief of 1:17:14.960 --> 1:17:18.320 Brock Party seventeen of twenty nine for one ninety nine. 1:17:19.840 --> 1:17:21.920 They were held. The Niners were two hundred and forty 1:17:21.960 --> 1:17:24.919 one total yards, eleven first downs, and they were minus 1:17:24.960 --> 1:17:28.320 three in turnovers. Buffalo's got to be I mean, if 1:17:28.320 --> 1:17:30.720 this is Brock Party, it's one thing. So what did 1:17:30.720 --> 1:17:33.320 we learn yesterday? The difference between Purty and Allen in 1:17:33.360 --> 1:17:36.639 the line in a game at Green Bay was three points. 1:17:36.720 --> 1:17:39.000 It's got to be more than that. Three points was 1:17:39.040 --> 1:17:39.600 not enough of. 1:17:39.600 --> 1:17:43.639 A six or something like that, four something like that 1:17:44.120 --> 1:17:45.240 and a half four four. 1:17:45.760 --> 1:17:47.280 It's got to be it should be more than that. 1:17:47.960 --> 1:17:50.080 Do we we do we know that party's playing in 1:17:50.120 --> 1:17:50.400 this game. 1:17:50.400 --> 1:17:51.639 We don't don't anything. 1:17:53.240 --> 1:17:55.800 I said, Buffalo minus seven, but that obviously depends on 1:17:55.800 --> 1:17:57.280 who's starting a quarterback for the Niner. 1:17:57.360 --> 1:18:01.200 Yeah, this is where we were pretty much right now. 1:18:01.280 --> 1:18:04.679 Six and a half's out there. I hammered bills five 1:18:04.720 --> 1:18:08.360 and a half Fandle Boyd opened yesterday. You know, but 1:18:08.479 --> 1:18:10.400 kind of thinking it was at least gonna move this way. 1:18:10.479 --> 1:18:12.200 At worst, I could buy off it at a better 1:18:12.320 --> 1:18:15.120 number a little bit if we get news on party. 1:18:15.800 --> 1:18:17.880 Yeah, it's just that year. We've said it before with 1:18:17.880 --> 1:18:21.519 the Niners. It's too many injuries. Somebody comes back, somebody 1:18:21.520 --> 1:18:24.280 else gets hurt, and then once you lose your quarterback, 1:18:24.360 --> 1:18:27.519 at that point, it just becomes comical. McCaffrey is not 1:18:27.600 --> 1:18:30.000 all the way back. I'm not sure. You know who 1:18:30.000 --> 1:18:31.559 knows at this age will he ever be all the 1:18:31.560 --> 1:18:34.639 way back? I don't know. But there's just too many injuries, 1:18:34.680 --> 1:18:36.839 and it's just that year. It's a loss. It feels 1:18:36.880 --> 1:18:42.320 like a lost season for sure. So much hope for 1:18:42.439 --> 1:18:44.519 what was supposed to be still in the window for 1:18:44.560 --> 1:18:47.120 the Niners coming back. One more game to get to. 1:18:47.160 --> 1:18:48.720 We'll wrap it up right here on a numbers game. 1:18:51.120 --> 1:18:52.439 We have one more game to get to. I believe 1:18:52.479 --> 1:18:52.760 we do. 1:18:52.840 --> 1:18:55.480 Monday Night football, the Browns at the Broncos. 1:18:55.520 --> 1:18:57.960 Brown's coming off the extra rest there win over the 1:18:57.960 --> 1:19:01.000 Steelers in the snow on Thursday football. They are three 1:19:01.040 --> 1:19:03.960 and eight. Remember they were one of ten on third down, 1:19:04.280 --> 1:19:07.560 four four on fourth. They were MIAs two in turnovers. 1:19:07.800 --> 1:19:10.360 They became the first team, according to Optics DATS in 1:19:10.479 --> 1:19:13.599 NFL history, to commit three plus turnovers, have eight plus penalties, 1:19:13.720 --> 1:19:16.200 convert no more than one third down, have under twenty 1:19:16.200 --> 1:19:18.960 five minute time of possession, blow a twelve plus point 1:19:19.160 --> 1:19:22.160 fourth quarter lead, and yet still win the game. That's 1:19:22.200 --> 1:19:25.519 what they did on Thursday. Total anomaly jamis eighteen of 1:19:25.520 --> 1:19:29.360 twenty seven for two nineteen. And then at Denver, Denver, 1:19:29.439 --> 1:19:32.120 we talked about they beat the Raiders and then they 1:19:32.200 --> 1:19:35.320 cover against the Raiders because Desmond Rider took a sack 1:19:36.360 --> 1:19:39.439 at the sixteen seconds left on a play run with 1:19:39.479 --> 1:19:43.360 sixteen seconds left from the doorstep and Ridard took a 1:19:43.439 --> 1:19:46.559 sack and that was it. That was the last play 1:19:46.640 --> 1:19:49.479 run and so Broncos get the money as well. Bo 1:19:49.720 --> 1:19:55.839 Nicks Broncos rookie touchdown record is sixteen touchdowns, sixteen touchdown 1:19:55.880 --> 1:19:59.000 passes good on him Sutton eight for ninety seven and 1:19:59.000 --> 1:20:01.160 two touchdowns. In that win, the Broncos were plus two 1:20:01.160 --> 1:20:03.599 and turnovers the Broncos are seven and five. The Broncos 1:20:03.600 --> 1:20:06.400 are in playoff position, a game and a half ahead 1:20:06.400 --> 1:20:08.920 of the Dolphins, who are their nearest competitor for that 1:20:09.000 --> 1:20:11.080 final wild card in the AFC I will say, Denver 1:20:11.120 --> 1:20:11.959 minus six. 1:20:12.680 --> 1:20:15.960 You're pretty close to just five and a half, basically 1:20:16.040 --> 1:20:19.680 everywhere five and a half, okay, and those two and 1:20:19.720 --> 1:20:21.080 a half's a lot of Most of those two and 1:20:21.120 --> 1:20:24.280 a halves are disappearing on tonight's game. So I'm gonna 1:20:24.320 --> 1:20:24.840 join you for a. 1:20:24.760 --> 1:20:27.800 Bit tonight, Gil, Can we talk about the bow Nicks 1:20:27.880 --> 1:20:29.719 Jayden Daniels Rookie of the Year thing for a second? 1:20:29.760 --> 1:20:33.479 For sure? Jade and Daniels down to a short favorite 1:20:33.520 --> 1:20:38.000 now minus one fifteenish wild for Rookie of the Year 1:20:38.080 --> 1:20:41.160 and bo Nicks in the short plus money about plus 1:20:41.240 --> 1:20:44.120 one twenty for offensive Rookie the year. There were showed 1:20:44.160 --> 1:20:46.960 minus one thirty five plus one ten is what we're 1:20:46.960 --> 1:20:49.759 showing on the graphics, so it is super close. Now 1:20:50.439 --> 1:20:53.559 with what is that six games left in the in 1:20:53.600 --> 1:20:56.599 the regular season? Do I have that right? No? Yes, 1:20:56.680 --> 1:20:59.800 six games left in the regular season for both of 1:20:59.840 --> 1:21:05.559 the players. So the question becomes now and by the way, 1:21:05.600 --> 1:21:07.960 it's a two headed monster because Brock Bowers, who's in third, 1:21:08.040 --> 1:21:11.080 is twenty five to one. So Jayden Daniels got out 1:21:11.080 --> 1:21:13.840 to this great start and now has and let me 1:21:13.880 --> 1:21:15.639 just say this as a Washington guy who's watched every 1:21:15.640 --> 1:21:18.800 one of his snaps since that injury. He has not 1:21:18.880 --> 1:21:22.160 been the same player since the rib injury. He doesn't 1:21:22.280 --> 1:21:25.760 run nearly as a willingly, But then he did a 1:21:25.800 --> 1:21:27.960 little bit more last night, Right, he did a little bit. 1:21:28.040 --> 1:21:30.000 That's what I'm like. I'm confused by it. 1:21:29.920 --> 1:21:31.760 Because, I mean, his stats are still great because that 1:21:31.840 --> 1:21:34.280 McLaurin play was eighty six yards right, by the way, 1:21:34.320 --> 1:21:38.360 did we talk about that? Terry mccorns. Jaydan Daniels has 1:21:38.360 --> 1:21:40.880 still been awesome. Don't get me wrong, He's still and 1:21:41.000 --> 1:21:44.200 he did run yesterday, but he's not been the player 1:21:44.240 --> 1:21:46.200 that he was bow Knicks. And I will say this 1:21:46.240 --> 1:21:49.360 again because when you're wrong, you're wrong. Sean Payton has 1:21:49.479 --> 1:21:52.920 coached this kid up and he in season bo Nicks 1:21:53.040 --> 1:21:55.639 was terrible early in the year, and now he looks 1:21:55.760 --> 1:21:58.280 better and better every week. So the question becomes, with 1:21:58.320 --> 1:22:01.760 six games left, who your bet be on between these two? 1:22:01.880 --> 1:22:03.120 If you were forced to make one. 1:22:04.280 --> 1:22:06.120 Jane Daniels still me too. 1:22:06.200 --> 1:22:06.760 Just a little bit? 1:22:07.360 --> 1:22:08.599 Could can he get caught? 1:22:08.680 --> 1:22:08.840 Though? 1:22:08.880 --> 1:22:11.000 I think the I mean I think the odds movement 1:22:11.160 --> 1:22:14.440 is pretty spot on reflective. 1:22:14.640 --> 1:22:18.960 Will this come down to fifty voters? Who will determine 1:22:19.240 --> 1:22:21.280 one team got in the playoffs and the other didn't. 1:22:21.760 --> 1:22:23.840 So that when you just asked me that question, is 1:22:23.880 --> 1:22:25.680 the biggest thing that comes to mind right away, right 1:22:26.320 --> 1:22:29.519 it's it's which who gets into the playoffs? And that 1:22:29.560 --> 1:22:30.839 absolutely could be the design. 1:22:30.880 --> 1:22:33.479 Both could both could not, right, Broncos with a one 1:22:33.479 --> 1:22:35.639 and a half game lead in the AFC Wildcard picture, 1:22:36.160 --> 1:22:41.439 Washington with a half game lead in the NFC wildcard picture. Currently, Yeah, 1:22:41.600 --> 1:22:43.479 that's what I'm saying. With Washington, like you have Tennessee 1:22:43.520 --> 1:22:46.519 this week, you just lost a Dallas at home. You 1:22:46.680 --> 1:22:50.280 absolutely have to beat Tennessee like it's a roverbial must 1:22:50.320 --> 1:22:51.200 win at this point. 1:22:51.200 --> 1:22:54.920 And almost I guess if both miss. If both miss, 1:22:54.960 --> 1:22:58.160 I'm gonna go with it's more likely that Nicks wins 1:22:58.200 --> 1:23:01.920 it because right then, though the Washington collapse would be 1:23:02.760 --> 1:23:05.479 a bigger deal, we'd be talking about it far more 1:23:05.640 --> 1:23:09.240 just the second half of the season stuff. Again, I I. 1:23:09.240 --> 1:23:12.080 Don't know will some voters look at this as Okay, well, 1:23:12.160 --> 1:23:16.760 they're both unbelievable. Jaden was the number two pick in 1:23:16.800 --> 1:23:21.280 the draft. Bo Nicks, everybody felt was completely overdrafted at twelve, 1:23:21.960 --> 1:23:25.439 So there's that in bo Nix's favor. On the other hand, 1:23:25.479 --> 1:23:27.400 you could also look at it as well. Bo Knicks 1:23:27.479 --> 1:23:31.200 has this supposed offensive genius people think in Sean Payton, 1:23:32.000 --> 1:23:36.080 whereas Jayden Daniels got the Cliff Kingsbury swoon happening, and 1:23:36.120 --> 1:23:38.439 he doesn't have a head coach like in offensive minded 1:23:38.439 --> 1:23:39.960 head coach, He's got Dan Quinn. 1:23:40.520 --> 1:23:40.840 I don't know. 1:23:40.880 --> 1:23:42.320 There's just a lot of things that in the mix 1:23:42.400 --> 1:23:45.240 right now at this moment, it's very coin flippy. But 1:23:45.280 --> 1:23:47.439 what's your point that you think he's gonna be cut 1:23:47.479 --> 1:23:49.920 some slack, because no, My point is like every voter 1:23:50.040 --> 1:23:52.000 can have their own way of thinking, right right, One 1:23:52.040 --> 1:23:53.719 person could be like, oh my god, Bo Nicks, everybody 1:23:53.760 --> 1:23:56.200 thought he was overdrafted. You know, Jadon Daniels, everybody knew 1:23:56.200 --> 1:23:57.360 he should be the number two picks. So what bo 1:23:57.479 --> 1:24:00.280 Nix is doing is that much more incredible? Or you say, well, 1:24:00.320 --> 1:24:03.479 Bo Nicks has Sean Payton as his guru, Jadan Daniels 1:24:03.520 --> 1:24:04.680 has Cliff Kingsbury. 1:24:05.560 --> 1:24:06.960 It's a fascinating conversation. 1:24:07.040 --> 1:24:09.280 Sure you can rationalize in all kinds of ways, is 1:24:09.320 --> 1:24:09.800 what I'm saying. 1:24:09.800 --> 1:24:12.439 The passing stats are so similar right now too, Like 1:24:12.479 --> 1:24:14.040 That's why I was just pulling up, like they are 1:24:14.080 --> 1:24:18.680 so close. You're talking about twenty six thirteen yardage for 1:24:18.760 --> 1:24:22.559 Jayden Daniels, twelve touchdowns, five interceptions. Bo Nicks twenty five 1:24:22.680 --> 1:24:26.880 forty eight with sixteen touchdowns, six interceptions, So four more touchdowns, 1:24:27.040 --> 1:24:27.759 one more pick. 1:24:28.320 --> 1:24:30.280 Now there's going to be a voter. There's fifty of them, right, 1:24:30.320 --> 1:24:33.200 then one voter may say, yeah, but what Jaden Daniels 1:24:33.240 --> 1:24:36.400 has done to change around the culture of a franchise 1:24:36.840 --> 1:24:42.559 from just being a prison lifetime sentence, you know, under 1:24:42.640 --> 1:24:46.200 Daniel Snyder to this glory and by glory, I put 1:24:46.200 --> 1:24:47.760 it in quotes because I know it. They're only seven 1:24:47.840 --> 1:24:50.240 and five and they haven't done anything, so it's gonna 1:24:50.240 --> 1:24:52.439 be fascinating. And I do agree with what the number is, Like, 1:24:52.479 --> 1:24:55.799 I get it. The bow Knicks conversation is absolutely thegit. 1:24:55.840 --> 1:24:57.040 They deserve credit for it. Man. 1:24:57.200 --> 1:25:00.200 I just I think if Commanders end up missing the playoff, 1:25:00.320 --> 1:25:02.799 I think he's going to be punished and almost probably 1:25:02.840 --> 1:25:05.559 to an unfair levels. They miss after the start that. 1:25:05.560 --> 1:25:08.240 They had, but the Broncos won't be Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:25:08.320 --> 1:25:13.200 yeah yeah. The schedules are Washington's might be a scosh 1:25:13.200 --> 1:25:15.160 easier than Denver's. 1:25:15.760 --> 1:25:16.200 But I don't know. 1:25:16.240 --> 1:25:17.479 I think it's a I think it's a pretty interesting 1:25:17.520 --> 1:25:20.519 discussion all of these awards. Coach of the Year is 1:25:20.560 --> 1:25:23.479 the most jumbled. I have no idea who Coach of 1:25:23.520 --> 1:25:25.400 the Year is. Who was that Drew was on and 1:25:25.400 --> 1:25:27.640 he was like giving seven candidates. It's definitely down to 1:25:27.680 --> 1:25:28.400 these seven guys. 1:25:28.600 --> 1:25:30.240 It was me like the day before, right, I was 1:25:30.240 --> 1:25:32.800 like ninety five percent sure he'll be one of these, 1:25:32.920 --> 1:25:33.839 like six dudes. 1:25:34.040 --> 1:25:36.160 We just we talked about. You know, Dan Campbell, by 1:25:36.160 --> 1:25:39.200 the way, plus one sixty is your short shot. Just 1:25:39.200 --> 1:25:41.840 to give you some thoroughness to that, Kevin O'Connell plus 1:25:41.880 --> 1:25:45.080 three fifty, Tomlins four to one, Jim Harbaugh plus four 1:25:45.120 --> 1:25:47.760 to fifty, Peyton, the aforementioned, Sean Payton six to one, 1:25:47.840 --> 1:25:50.599 and Jonathan Gannon and Dan Quinn who should get some 1:25:50.640 --> 1:25:53.240 consideration ten to one and fourteen to one. I mean 1:25:53.280 --> 1:25:56.200 that's what seven dudes. If you had to bet this, 1:25:56.479 --> 1:25:58.800 I mean I'll throw it right back for me. Yeah. 1:25:58.800 --> 1:26:00.720 If I'm forcing you to bet this right now, what do. 1:26:00.680 --> 1:26:01.840 You bet it right now? 1:26:03.240 --> 1:26:03.479 Yeah? 1:26:05.000 --> 1:26:09.200 Tomlin, he says sheepishly. But I think the gauntlet is 1:26:09.240 --> 1:26:11.760 gonna change that. I think the Gauntlet's gonna do this. 1:26:11.760 --> 1:26:13.479 Steeler's gonna lose a lot of football games. 1:26:13.760 --> 1:26:17.280 Eis too right now it's Tomlin or Horbad though, I guess. 1:26:18.720 --> 1:26:22.080 But if the Lions go fifteen and one, excuse me, 1:26:22.160 --> 1:26:25.200 sixteen in one, let's say it's not Dan Campbell. The 1:26:25.240 --> 1:26:28.360 same applies to Andy Reid. If the Chiefs go sixteen 1:26:28.360 --> 1:26:29.840 and one, you can't give Andy Reid this. 1:26:30.000 --> 1:26:33.240 I'm actually, why is he getting longer again? I might 1:26:33.320 --> 1:26:35.920 jump in on him. Twenty to one's out there now 1:26:36.000 --> 1:26:36.400 in him? 1:26:36.640 --> 1:26:39.000 Yeah, because he has Patrick Mahomes. That's why his record 1:26:39.040 --> 1:26:39.839 has to be gaudy. 1:26:39.920 --> 1:26:42.080 I know that's what That's what it is. Gaudy. 1:26:43.040 --> 1:26:46.080 I'm saying it's gaudy. That's what I'm saying. If they 1:26:46.080 --> 1:26:47.960 go sixteen and one, you can't give it to him. 1:26:48.080 --> 1:26:50.120 Come on, I might bet that today. I did not 1:26:50.160 --> 1:26:52.080 realize we had got that much longer on Andy Reid. 1:26:52.160 --> 1:26:53.400 That was the point of that whole segment to get 1:26:53.439 --> 1:26:55.760 you to bet something. Thank you. It will good work, 1:26:55.840 --> 1:26:56.240 all right. 1:27:00.200 --> 1:27:03.920 The Baba fack back batt