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Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys Week five, Episode three as
Speaker 1: Giants week as now upon us here from the Star
Speaker 1: in Frisco. The team back out on the practice field
Speaker 1: this week as a whopping leader of the NFC East
Speaker 1: in a four and oh perfect start to the season
Speaker 1: for your Dallas Cowboys. Oh wait, that's not what happened.
Speaker 1: They're going on the practice field one in three, right,
Speaker 1: I messed that up? Oh man, Yeah, so just to
Speaker 1: keep it on. Still a little disappointed, it's still a
Speaker 1: little butt hurt from the first couple weeks of the season.
Speaker 1: On my end, however, I am encouraged because we're getting
Speaker 1: some reinforcements back this week and of course a team
Speaker 1: on the other side that is oh and four and
Speaker 1: doesn't have a win so far in the division, and
Speaker 1: we're going to break it down for you Cowboys defense.
Speaker 1: How are they going to stop this Giant's offense that
Speaker 1: has been pretty easy to stop, to say the least
Speaker 1: in terms of the first four weeks of the season.
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips, Heck Harrison with
Speaker 1: you here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Glad you with
Speaker 1: us and Rob. We saw some roster moves yesterday. Brandon
Speaker 1: Car the veteran corners last safety out in Dallas, and
Speaker 1: big reason for that is the potential return from Anthony Brown.
Speaker 1: Is that the case going forward and one of the
Speaker 1: big reasons White Car was released. Well, I think you
Speaker 1: can kind of connect the dots there potentially. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, Mike McCarthy will talk to us after the
Speaker 1: show and they get back to practice today. He is
Speaker 1: eligible to come off of IR this week. They put
Speaker 1: him on IR, I think the Saturday before the Week
Speaker 1: two game against Atlanta. So they've got fifty one guys
Speaker 1: on the fifty three man roster now, so there's there's
Speaker 1: room to bring guys on from IR. There's there's other
Speaker 1: guys eligible. I think Layton's eligible, Sean Lee cam Fleming,
Speaker 1: I think Cheeto's got another week before he's eligible, and
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he's quite ready anyway. But
Speaker 1: if they get Brown back, man, that's that is big.
Speaker 1: And you know, the Brandon Carr think surprises me, guys
Speaker 1: a little bit. I just I expected him to step
Speaker 1: in and if not, start be more part of a rotation,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't. He played. I think he was active
Speaker 1: for all four games and played twenty one snaps. So
Speaker 1: a little surprising there. Yeah, yesterday, yesterday, Rob, you were
Speaker 1: talking about seeing him a little bit more than the
Speaker 1: announcement came that he was released from the team. I said, well,
Speaker 1: there goes that. Rob. We won't won't be seeing that,
Speaker 1: but you guys are Rob, You're right. Getting Brown back
Speaker 1: is going to be used for us. His experience on
Speaker 1: the outside. I think we've been missing that. We saw
Speaker 1: obviously last week that Worldly Uh didn't have his best
Speaker 1: ally as the keeping it nice, but brown, brown Brown
Speaker 1: would be Uh and Uh an addition to our defense
Speaker 1: that I think anyone would welcome. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: Brown's coming back. Um, I don't believe that's the reason
Speaker 1: why b Car was cut, but we're gonna leave it
Speaker 1: at that. You know, b Car got cut because Brown's
Speaker 1: coming back. Um, there's other rumors that are out there,
Speaker 1: but you know, at the end of the day, his
Speaker 1: ten is over here. Um, good luck to him in
Speaker 1: the future and hopefully Brown brings something that he was
Speaker 1: that a car wasn't. Okay, So is this a is
Speaker 1: this a rumor that we can't necessarily talk about on air,
Speaker 1: or is this just you making a joke? Well, what
Speaker 1: is the reason you think? I I feel that I
Speaker 1: feel as if the rumor that's going around, and I
Speaker 1: don't have any merit to the rumor. I don't have
Speaker 1: even a real source. I don't know if it's really
Speaker 1: good to talk about it here. But the rumor is
Speaker 1: that he spoke up about their defense and a defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator and their their level of play and their level
Speaker 1: of play calling to date, and that kind of that
Speaker 1: kind of saw his exit about it there. So I
Speaker 1: have seen that happen in the NFL before US, not
Speaker 1: a league that really likes people to step up and
Speaker 1: speak against the regime and they kind of get you
Speaker 1: up out of there when you do. So, Um, that's
Speaker 1: what I've heard. If that is the truth, and it
Speaker 1: makes sense because I've seen it happen in the past.
Speaker 1: But again, I don't. I don't have a valid source
Speaker 1: on that, So it's just rumors, gotcha, and rumors do
Speaker 1: fly whenever moves are made like that. But also the
Speaker 1: Cowboys adding a couple of tackles, one to the active
Speaker 1: roster and Greg Snat who spent last year with Kansas City,
Speaker 1: who was uninjured reserve for a good amount of time
Speaker 1: and then started the year on the Browns practice squad
Speaker 1: and the cow was went and plucked him. So he's
Speaker 1: currently on the fifty three man roster that sits at
Speaker 1: fifty one at the moment. But whenever it comes to
Speaker 1: these editions and you talk about secondary and the fact
Speaker 1: that you cut a secondary player hopefully to get Anthony brownback,
Speaker 1: but you had two more tackles, Rob, what is the
Speaker 1: thought process behind this? You've got Terrence Steal, Brandon Knight
Speaker 1: already there. I know that we have Cam Irving that's
Speaker 1: available to return this week. But as this just maybe
Speaker 1: another depth move from a Cowboys perspective of adding a
Speaker 1: pair of tackles here, Yeah, I think so. I think
Speaker 1: I would put offensive tackle as one of the hardest
Speaker 1: positions to find depth. It's really hard. Usually if teams
Speaker 1: have them, they hang on to him in training camp,
Speaker 1: and so you don't see a lot of movement with
Speaker 1: tackles after final cuts. And yeah, I mean, as many
Speaker 1: issues that they had on the offensive line, I think
Speaker 1: if they can find somebody they you know, and maybe
Speaker 1: shuffle in and out, you know, Alex lights out of
Speaker 1: here and you know, try to add some potential depth
Speaker 1: in case they have more problems up there than they
Speaker 1: got to do that. And you know, cam Irving, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure exactly where he is in his rehab, but
Speaker 1: they said it could be a four to six week deal.
Speaker 1: So if that's the case, then he's not quite ready anyway.
Speaker 1: So that's probably the thought process there. Yeah, it's kind
Speaker 1: of I think it's red flags, man. I think it's
Speaker 1: red flags. Guy here. I just I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like it you keep bringing in tackles. To me,
Speaker 1: it's it's just being that you have Tyron Smith back, right,
Speaker 1: he's back, he played, he played a good game, and
Speaker 1: you bring in more tackles, right all that sile This
Speaker 1: is a red flag to me that Lall Collins is
Speaker 1: probably not looking like he's gonna come back anytime soon,
Speaker 1: if come back at all, Because why would you continue
Speaker 1: to add depth at his position if you intend if
Speaker 1: you expect him to come back. So to me, that's
Speaker 1: a red flag. It's not good on that right side.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they can find somebody that's permanent. Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the reports were over the weekend
Speaker 1: he was gonna have surgery today and that has had
Speaker 1: been confirmed by by the team officials. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: they've been kind of vague about it, as they have
Speaker 1: with a lot of injuries. But it doesn't sound like
Speaker 1: he's gonna play this season. So yeah, they're they're looking
Speaker 1: for contingency plans and obviously they've shuffled that position during
Speaker 1: the game and um, and we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 1: But you know, Cam Fleming when he comes back, he's
Speaker 1: a veteran piece. But he didn't win the job in
Speaker 1: training camp. He didn't play a lot in training camp,
Speaker 1: but he didn't win it. Why do I always do that? Man?
Speaker 1: Maybe good this weekend he's on the other side, we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk to make sure. We're gonna talk about that
Speaker 1: Giants offense. Yeah, no, thank you, thank you. I've written
Speaker 1: I've been called out about that. Um. Yeah, they just
Speaker 1: they need options. They need options on that side, and
Speaker 1: I think Brandon Knight's probably their best option, and maybe
Speaker 1: he's gonna get to start again on Sunday. We'll see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's understating that the death problem that we have
Speaker 1: at the offensive line, and again, it's just been a
Speaker 1: game of musical chairs, especially when you go back to
Speaker 1: the Seattle game with Martin finishing that right tackle. We
Speaker 1: have to find the balance that we're looking for in
Speaker 1: the offensive line, and we just hadn't got there yet. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you guys have been able to isolate situations with steal
Speaker 1: against other you know, defensive ends in the league that
Speaker 1: they've gotten the best of them. I think with the
Speaker 1: yardage and everything, the coaches are just not fooling themselves
Speaker 1: to think that they're in a good place offensive line wise.
Speaker 1: They see these guys every day and they know that
Speaker 1: they need to get more depth. Then they currently have
Speaker 1: four offensive tackles on the practice squad, they have four
Speaker 1: offensive tackles on the active roster, and then they have
Speaker 1: two on irm Lyle Collins and uh with at least
Speaker 1: at the moment, Cam irving this week. So they've got
Speaker 1: ten signs they must become get ready to come out
Speaker 1: with what they must be get ready to come out
Speaker 1: with a nine nine old lines or setting or someone
Speaker 1: offensive formation. I don't know what the thing they're doing.
Speaker 1: A bunch of offensive tackles and then zeke and tack
Speaker 1: in the backfield and that's it. That's that's what you're
Speaker 1: running with moving forward. Okay, So we also got the
Speaker 1: We also got the news this morning that Snax Harrison,
Speaker 1: one of our targets in yesterday's GM session, has reportedly
Speaker 1: agreed to sign to the Seattle Seahawks dot dot dot
Speaker 1: practice squad. As now, he is off the market at
Speaker 1: the moment. Now we'll see if that stays. If he
Speaker 1: stays on the practice squad for very long, he may
Speaker 1: not be able to because they'll probably pull him up
Speaker 1: or somebody will pluck him pretty quickly. But Snax Harrison,
Speaker 1: at least for the moment, off the roster. But I
Speaker 1: mentioned Anthony Brown earlier in that secondary and what he
Speaker 1: brings to the table coming back, and we've seen the
Speaker 1: struggles from the secondary. Treyvon Diggs has had a rough
Speaker 1: go of it as a rookie in his first four
Speaker 1: games of his professional career. Seemingly you have an easier
Speaker 1: matchup this week, but then you've got DeAndre Hopkins and
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald on the other side of things. Also Christian Kirk,
Speaker 1: who's had a pretty good season for Atlanta coming up
Speaker 1: or excuse me, Arizona coming up in week six. But heck,
Speaker 1: whenever you look at Anthony Brown and what he brings
Speaker 1: to the table from a cornerback position, the depth of
Speaker 1: having him back already improves. But what does he specifically
Speaker 1: bring back that you have been missing desperately over the
Speaker 1: last four weeks. He's a He's a good tackler. I
Speaker 1: would say that we've had so many busted plays and
Speaker 1: miscommunications and coverages, but a lot of it is attributed
Speaker 1: to mistackles, and our secondary has been doing a very
Speaker 1: poor job of that. I'm hoping that Anthony Brown is
Speaker 1: the piece that we can put into at least stop
Speaker 1: these big plays. We've had guys just running free, not
Speaker 1: being able to get guys on the ground. And if
Speaker 1: from that perspective, I think tackling is one or being
Speaker 1: physical is one of Anthony brown strong suits. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the that's the point I was gonna I was gonna
Speaker 1: hit on heck is a physical aspect, right it's the
Speaker 1: physicality of the grit, the tenacity that he has. I
Speaker 1: think that this this secondary is missing right now. Um.
Speaker 1: It's another reason why I think we've been talking about
Speaker 1: other individuals on that are out there in free agents. UM,
Speaker 1: hope he could bring in for those for those same characteristics.
Speaker 1: So hopefully he brings that. Hopefully he is that same player,
Speaker 1: he brings that to the squad, and hopefully you know, um,
Speaker 1: he brings a level of competitiveness to this group that
Speaker 1: hasn't obviously hasn't been present. And you know what, it
Speaker 1: does get easier this week. I know you mentioned Hopkins
Speaker 1: in a week from now, and I know the Giants
Speaker 1: will We'll get into their offense. It hasn't been good,
Speaker 1: but they have guys back there, uh that that can
Speaker 1: that can run routes and get separation and make plays.
Speaker 1: I mean three four different receivers including Evan ingram Um
Speaker 1: and and you know some of their problems has been
Speaker 1: pass protection upfront. But if they get that, then they've
Speaker 1: got receivers who can win routes that it's not going
Speaker 1: to be easy against against this Cowboys secondary. Again, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be something that I think we'll see this week specifically,
Speaker 1: I mean Golden Tate, who seemingly is not going to
Speaker 1: be suspended for his altercation with Jalen Ramsey following last
Speaker 1: week's matchup. He will be available, and even if the
Speaker 1: league decided to throw a suspension on there is probably
Speaker 1: going to be an appeal and so he would probably
Speaker 1: play this week anyways. However, you're exactly right. I think
Speaker 1: this is going to be a week where you need
Speaker 1: to get healthy from a secondary perspective, and Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: coming in certainly helps you out in that regard. But
Speaker 1: I think it just takes pressure off of Trayvon Diggs
Speaker 1: a little bit, Isaiah, because Diggs has been really the
Speaker 1: one having to carry the load of facing a top
Speaker 1: wide receiver. You may not have to throw him on
Speaker 1: a golden tape. Sterling Shepherd's on ir so that's probably
Speaker 1: their top receiver at the moment as well. But you
Speaker 1: look at those guys in the secondary, just having Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown back just adds that much more confidence in that
Speaker 1: secondary that absolutely needs it. Yeah, it's gonna ask some confidence, man,
Speaker 1: Like I said, I just more than anything, Like I said,
Speaker 1: that's just the competitive side, man. You need competition at
Speaker 1: every position, and I don't feel like this position has
Speaker 1: as much as we talked about it going into the season.
Speaker 1: With all the depth that they have, right, we didn't
Speaker 1: say all the talent that they had, but we said
Speaker 1: all the depth that they had, we would you would
Speaker 1: assume that it would have been a highly competitive group
Speaker 1: because everybody's vying for time. Everybody's vying for you know,
Speaker 1: for for those snaps. You know, you don't get that
Speaker 1: many snaps. So um, I think Brown brings that and
Speaker 1: and and this week you already mentioned it. You know Golden,
Speaker 1: I know Golden. Golden's my dog. We used to we
Speaker 1: used to stay up and go to game stops and
Speaker 1: try to get Call of Duty games at midnight, you know,
Speaker 1: at the unreleased dates. So I know him. He's competitive.
Speaker 1: But Golden's not going to run by you, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's that's not a challenge. And that's where we've
Speaker 1: had issues at this year as people running by us.
Speaker 1: Not necessarily stuff underneath, but the guy's getting over the top.
Speaker 1: So this is a great week to bounce back, build
Speaker 1: some confidence because next week, U, yeah, be back at it.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I feel the same way. But
Speaker 1: I gotta say this, Kyle, when it comes down to
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, he's not going to improve your pass for us.
Speaker 1: And if he's not going to improve that pass for us,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be sitting on an island for four or
Speaker 1: five seconds. And look, Daniel Jones as bad a years
Speaker 1: he's having right now. If you give the guy enough
Speaker 1: time to see the field, he can find an open receiver.
Speaker 1: And so that's some of the problems that the back
Speaker 1: end of our defense is having. It's just the lack
Speaker 1: of a pass rush and getting quarterbacks on the ground.
Speaker 1: So love to see Anthony Brown back. We just you know,
Speaker 1: outlined his physicality and what he's gonna be able to
Speaker 1: do from that standpoint, but this defense is historically bad
Speaker 1: and they have problems up front that Isaiah in your
Speaker 1: film study you pointed out. I mean, we're just losing
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. And I know we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about the Giants offense. It it it doesn't matter who you play,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who you go up against. If you're
Speaker 1: giving up three hundred and seven yards rushing, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get beat by the bad News Bears. That's a great
Speaker 1: point because this past week against Cleveland, your thought process was, Oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna get run all over by Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt and Nick Chubb and Steadin ended up being de
Speaker 1: Earnest Johns In that ran for the team high total
Speaker 1: exactly the team high total from Cleveland with ninety plus yards.
Speaker 1: And I guess originally you go into this matchup in
Speaker 1: week five and you say, oh, my gosh, here comes
Speaker 1: Sequon Barkley. We can't stop the run. Now. Barkley, of
Speaker 1: course sideline with his ACL injury that he's sustained in
Speaker 1: week two, but it's Dion Lewis, Wayne Gallman, Devanta three minutes,
Speaker 1: a three headed attack again from the New York side
Speaker 1: of things, which is what we saw from Los Angeles
Speaker 1: in week one. So it'll be tough to stop when
Speaker 1: we come back though. Here on Talking Cowboys, we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about that. That Giant's offense, just how poor has
Speaker 1: it been. The return of Jason Garrett on the other
Speaker 1: side of his turnover as the offensive coordinator now in
Speaker 1: New York. We'll talk about that when we come back.
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Speaker 1: HECMA reads. I feel like Heckma could have a solid
Speaker 1: read every now and again. The sultry, the sultry voice
Speaker 1: of Smooth Jay. I had the sultry voice of Harrison.
Speaker 1: We had the trust tree, and we were in the
Speaker 1: next yesterday whenever we were breaking down this team and
Speaker 1: the performance that we saw last week. Yeah, we've got
Speaker 1: plenty of treaties, one tree, other, one try, but let's
Speaker 1: break down this, uh, this burning tree of the Giants
Speaker 1: offense because it has been rough so far for old
Speaker 1: pal Jason Garrett who makes his return to AT and
Speaker 1: T State, And we all knew this day was coming.
Speaker 1: It was circled on the schedule that Jason Garrett was
Speaker 1: going to make his return as of course the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator now for the New York Giants, and he returns
Speaker 1: with headlines surrounding him in New York, but not for
Speaker 1: the right reasons. Rob It has been a dismal start
Speaker 1: for Jason in New York, but really he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a whole lot to work with with no sequon Barkley
Speaker 1: and now Sterling Shepard quite possibly his top target out
Speaker 1: due to injury at the moment. But what have you
Speaker 1: seen so far from this Giants offense that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: defense can absolutely take advantage of. I've seen not a
Speaker 1: lot of points scored by the Giants offense. I think
Speaker 1: they're averaging like eleven and a half points so far
Speaker 1: through four games. And Daniel Jones just continues to have
Speaker 1: problems back there, and some of it's on him. Some
Speaker 1: of it's, you know, holding the ball too long and
Speaker 1: waiting for things to develop behind an offensive line that
Speaker 1: doesn't give him a lot of time usually, And he
Speaker 1: got sacked five times by the Rams. They had some
Speaker 1: false starts and they just got themselves in a lot
Speaker 1: of down and distance problems. And that's kind of been
Speaker 1: the story for them throughout it that. You know, they've
Speaker 1: had trouble running the ball, they've had trouble throwing the ball.
Speaker 1: And I'm kind of surprised they hung in there against
Speaker 1: the Rams and lost by eight points because they, you know,
Speaker 1: they really couldn't talk about control the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: they had, they had a lot of trouble doing that,
Speaker 1: but they did find a little bit of something in
Speaker 1: the running game. In Week four, they were last in
Speaker 1: rushing before that last game and they ended up with
Speaker 1: like one hundred and thirty something yards. So I'm looking
Speaker 1: at that and I'm saying, Okay, we think this is
Speaker 1: a get right game, but the Cowboys are gonna have
Speaker 1: to go out and show that they can stop the
Speaker 1: run because Jason Garrett's gonna come out and try to
Speaker 1: do that. Like that's we know that about him. He
Speaker 1: wants a power running game and take the pressure off
Speaker 1: his young quarterback. So I fully expect him to test
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense that way. Okay, Well, look, Danny Danny Dimes.
Speaker 1: He wins two straight games as a rookie, and they
Speaker 1: give him a nickname, Danny Dimes, and ed comes new
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, Jason Garrett, and now he's looking like he's
Speaker 1: looking like Daniel Paso. He's not looking good at all.
Speaker 1: He's a sitting duck. He's a sitting duck for our
Speaker 1: defensive offensive line in PF grade. Everyone's failing. But the
Speaker 1: thing about a team like the Giants and what makes
Speaker 1: them so dangerous is the fact that their offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: they knows personnel who we are, and so that gives
Speaker 1: them a leg up on just kind of circling who
Speaker 1: guys what their limitations are. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not overlooking them. I feel like from
Speaker 1: a running back standport, it's Wayne Gallman to me is
Speaker 1: the more explosive between Lewis and Freeman. But you know, look,
Speaker 1: it's gonna come down. It's gonna come down to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys stopping them from getting into any kind of rhythm.
Speaker 1: It's not Golden Tape that worries me. It's probably gonna
Speaker 1: be Darius Slayton That's gonna give you a lot more
Speaker 1: of a threat. As far as stretching the field vertically,
Speaker 1: I know they're hurt, but they're at the tight end.
Speaker 1: They're as good as any team because Evan Ingram he
Speaker 1: can run all the routes and he's probably gonna be
Speaker 1: isolated with the safety or a linebacker. So let's not
Speaker 1: just look over this team and think this is a
Speaker 1: feel good game that we can you know, homecoming right now,
Speaker 1: because they're not you know, fam you they're gonna come
Speaker 1: into players. Jeez um. Yeah. So Jason Garrett, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett is gonna get up there. He's gonna say, guys,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna you know, we're just gonna show up
Speaker 1: and we're gonna play. You know, we're gonna play every day,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna every every down and you know, every
Speaker 1: every every play. One thing you guys can guarantee that's
Speaker 1: gonna happen is I'm gonna get clapping, y. Yeah. Yeah. Listen,
Speaker 1: this team, this this often sucks. There's no way another
Speaker 1: way around it. And I'm even gonna sit there here
Speaker 1: and trying to make him sound like they that they're
Speaker 1: gonna be competitive. They such their officive coordinators. Yeah, their
Speaker 1: office of coordinator sucks. It's been the same offense for
Speaker 1: a very long time that he's been running. Everybody in
Speaker 1: the league knows it. His running back situation is his
Speaker 1: dog on musical chairs. His offensive line is terrible. They
Speaker 1: play with terrible leverage. They can't hold a block for
Speaker 1: point two seconds. Their quarterback has happy feet back there
Speaker 1: like he's a little penguin. The receivers they're not. I mean,
Speaker 1: they have they have slating that can run by you,
Speaker 1: but other than that, they're not running by anybody. Ingram
Speaker 1: has for the last three years, has had the potential
Speaker 1: to be a really good tight end. But that's all
Speaker 1: that we've been talking about as a potential, he hasn't
Speaker 1: done much and maybe that's in part to their ability
Speaker 1: for them to actually get him the ball. They're just
Speaker 1: bad news Bears. And if our team doesn't just totally
Speaker 1: just take a baby wiping, get these guys off the
Speaker 1: dog on surface, I don't know what we're gonna do,
Speaker 1: because this is about as easy if a game as
Speaker 1: you can hope for. No wait, man, wait a minute, Champ.
Speaker 1: Now you know it's you know, it's any given Sunday,
Speaker 1: And the last thing that we want to do as
Speaker 1: a historically bad defense is breathed any confidence into an
Speaker 1: already bad team. And from a I mean, we're giving
Speaker 1: up the most yards in Russian passing, we're not getting
Speaker 1: any turnovers. So even with all that said, and just
Speaker 1: how you outline so eloquently how bad they are, there's
Speaker 1: still a team that if you give them a first
Speaker 1: quarter in which they score with two touchdowns, that's going
Speaker 1: to breathe life into a team that really is looking
Speaker 1: for a reason to lay down. Don't you think a
Speaker 1: defibrillator couldn't bring these guys office back to life? Understanding
Speaker 1: I'm trying, I think, I mean, I'm a fantastic point here, though,
Speaker 1: because as much as you're saying about the Cowboy or
Speaker 1: about the Giants offense being that bad and a okay, listen,
Speaker 1: listen to the Cowboys defense right now the same let me,
Speaker 1: let me, let me, let me put this to rest. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Giants, the Giants offense is the worst in the
Speaker 1: league statistically, so is the Cowboys defense. Because listen, listen, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm coming back. I know, I know, it's it's Wednesday,
Speaker 1: It's not Friday yet. Kind you gotta wait for and
Speaker 1: say it with your chest, because there's statistically the worst
Speaker 1: offense in the league, not only because of execution, but
Speaker 1: because of their their talent level facts defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball. For the Cowboys, we're the worst statistical defense
Speaker 1: in the league because of execution, not because of talent.
Speaker 1: So if your defense that's full of talent decides to
Speaker 1: actually execute, then guess what. You can go from the
Speaker 1: bottom of the barrel to the top of the barrel
Speaker 1: real quick in a hurry, which I think this defense
Speaker 1: is going to do over these next four weeks. This
Speaker 1: offense has zero chance. Their offensive coordinator is not good,
Speaker 1: their quarterbacks not very good, their office line is terrible.
Speaker 1: The running back situation that he just got out there.
Speaker 1: He's trying to get established. He doesn't know what the
Speaker 1: heck is going on. He don't know what he's signed
Speaker 1: up for. They're not a good team, all right. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying from the team that I when I when
Speaker 1: I played with him, we won a super Bowl. That
Speaker 1: was a team. I don't know what's happened over these
Speaker 1: past seventy seven years. This has been bad, but this,
Speaker 1: this team currently is awful. With Daniel Jones as you're
Speaker 1: leading rusher and it's not close. That's not good. And
Speaker 1: that's a product. That's a product that's a product of
Speaker 1: the fact that he's you know, he doesn't have time
Speaker 1: back there and he does, he'll take off and and
Speaker 1: you know, not trust his reads at times, and turnovers
Speaker 1: are problem. That's where I think they have an opportunity
Speaker 1: because I'm I disagree a little bit. I've got to
Speaker 1: see the Cowboys defense, no matter who they're playing, trust,
Speaker 1: trust their assignments, and do their jobs correct down to
Speaker 1: down because I'm you know, I'm kind of over though
Speaker 1: they're talented and they'll get back to it. We have
Speaker 1: to see it field. We haven't seen it for four weeks. So,
Speaker 1: but that being said, Daniel Jones has I think sixteen
Speaker 1: starts and he's got like seventeen picks and he's put
Speaker 1: the ball in the ground like twenty something times. They
Speaker 1: finally maybe the Cowboys can get some takeaways and maybe
Speaker 1: that's gonna help the Cowboys offense if they can also
Speaker 1: themselves take care of the football. R Rob what what
Speaker 1: what Isaiah is doing? It is like chappetto. He is
Speaker 1: puppet master and us he knows. Don't don't let Isaiah
Speaker 1: do us like this today it's Wednesday. No, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have a good show. And we know and you know,
Speaker 1: and you know clearly this is fun. I know. Hey.
Speaker 1: One thing that people know about me is I'm always
Speaker 1: gonn keep it one hundred. I know that's okay. If
Speaker 1: you if the Giants are playing at one hundred percent, yeah,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys are playing at one hundred percent in
Speaker 1: you guys's heart, what happens in that matchup? If they're
Speaker 1: playing at full steam ahead? What happens in that matchup?
Speaker 1: Cowboys win by more than Giant Cowboys win by multiple scores.
Speaker 1: They haven't done that. They haven't done that they never
Speaker 1: don't have any proof that they can't. You don't have
Speaker 1: any proof that they can do that. And what's been
Speaker 1: happening on our side. You're saying talent on the other
Speaker 1: side assignment for us, and it's been alignment and assignment
Speaker 1: that's been getting us beat. If we go up there
Speaker 1: in our defensive events are stretching up the field and
Speaker 1: not keeping contained or getting beat, don't contain. If guys
Speaker 1: in the secondary that are being sent on these blitzers
Speaker 1: are not getting home, we will lose. It's just the
Speaker 1: truth of it. And it doesn't matter how talented or
Speaker 1: less talented a team is. These are NFL players that
Speaker 1: still know how to do their job. And so if
Speaker 1: we're not defensively going to play within the confines of
Speaker 1: what Mike Nolan is trying, what he's trying to convey
Speaker 1: to this defense, it doesn't matter who you play, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It doesn't happen. And hey, I do
Speaker 1: agree with you our majority of what you just said. However,
Speaker 1: the areas in which the cowboy you guys have I've
Speaker 1: been dragging our defense all year right absolutely so that
Speaker 1: the areas in which our defense have struggled have been
Speaker 1: in two areas run defense right, run defense, which this
Speaker 1: team can't rush, just facts, they just can't rush right.
Speaker 1: And then are getting beat on routes which they don't
Speaker 1: have the personnel to beat us over the top on routes.
Speaker 1: So where we have had a disadvantage over these first
Speaker 1: four games, we now have the advantage just purely by
Speaker 1: walking out there and lining up, just simply by lining up.
Speaker 1: Now they they they still have to execute. I'm not
Speaker 1: taking that away. They have not done that, but I'm
Speaker 1: relying on their ability that to one have better personnel,
Speaker 1: which we do, and two actually have a little bit
Speaker 1: of manhood and say, guess what, We're not going to
Speaker 1: allow this team to come in here and beat us,
Speaker 1: especially our old Our old head coach almost called him
Speaker 1: oc he was my old head coach. And I think
Speaker 1: there's something to it in that regard to I mean,
Speaker 1: you want to beat that guy on the other side
Speaker 1: of you, And the talent level is obviously much higher
Speaker 1: in Dallas than it is in New York. But I
Speaker 1: think whenever it comes down to this matchup, you've got
Speaker 1: to take care of the defensive side of the football.
Speaker 1: I think Anthony Brown will add a confidence level. We
Speaker 1: talked about when it was the last time that this
Speaker 1: defense really looked confident, When was this de doing their
Speaker 1: job the right way. I think Anthony Brown takes it
Speaker 1: care of one of the rest of the eleven because
Speaker 1: he's I think better than really any of the other
Speaker 1: corners maybe besides Treyvon Diggs that you have out there,
Speaker 1: and just having him and put it back into the
Speaker 1: lineup is going to help out a little bit. But
Speaker 1: we do need to take our second break. When we
Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna give our grades first quarter grades
Speaker 1: for the offensive line and the defensive line. We started
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Speaker 1: talking about the offensive grades for the running game in
Speaker 1: the passing game through the first four weeks of the season,
Speaker 1: grading things by quarters. In terms of this set Alice
Speaker 1: Cowboys football team, we want to go to the trenches
Speaker 1: today where things might differ a little bit. There's been
Speaker 1: a lot of storylines through the first four weeks of
Speaker 1: the season in terms of the in terms of the
Speaker 1: overall trench play on both sides of the football. But
Speaker 1: let's start offensively on the offensive line. Grade out the
Speaker 1: offensive line once again from an A plus to an
Speaker 1: F minus scale, and Isaiah will start with you on
Speaker 1: this one. B plus no, get out of here. Get
Speaker 1: where's the apple? Are you serious? Okay? B plus? Why
Speaker 1: but it B plus? Where's the run game? We're know
Speaker 1: we're known for for having a run game. Where's it at?
Speaker 1: We had? We we haven't had it? Right? So throwing
Speaker 1: the ball yet they've had they've passed block awesome, that's
Speaker 1: one half of your job, right, But the core of
Speaker 1: the heart, the character of this team is running the ball.
Speaker 1: We have not been able to do that. You have
Speaker 1: one of arguably one of the best running backs in
Speaker 1: the game behind you, and you and you, and you
Speaker 1: only get what ninety yards rushing with him over two weeks?
Speaker 1: Heck with that? Wait? Wait wait did you say D
Speaker 1: plus A EP or B B plus B B B
Speaker 1: B that's the way. That's a pretty damn good grade. Actually,
Speaker 1: that's good. Your your explanations making it sound like a
Speaker 1: D is what we're saying here. Now, it's B plus,
Speaker 1: it's a. It's a B plus. They've been they've been
Speaker 1: passed blocking. You don't. You don't throw for this many
Speaker 1: yards unless they do a heck of a job pass blocking.
Speaker 1: And they face some really good defensive linementum so front
Speaker 1: sevens over their first four weeks. So they've done a
Speaker 1: heck of a job in that regard. But they only
Speaker 1: get they get it. They don't. They don't get anywhere
Speaker 1: near A for me on that regard because they have
Speaker 1: a run block. So they have to figure that out.
Speaker 1: So they get they gotta beat. They're gonna be. They're passing,
Speaker 1: they're passing, but if they drop any more, they don't pass.
Speaker 1: In a graduate program. Wow, now we're in graduates first
Speaker 1: quarter of the season. All right, heck, that's so confusing.
Speaker 1: Let's just happened. I don't know, Okay, Yeah, so that's A.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty good grade, Like I was not expecting that.
Speaker 1: Pretty good for for a line that we've been bragging
Speaker 1: about for years missing, that's missing multiple starters. Yeah, B plus,
Speaker 1: B plus. Yeah, Well, I'm gonna look. I graded to
Speaker 1: the running game as a C minus yesterday and so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pass that to the offensive line as well
Speaker 1: as a C minus. We hadn't been able to get
Speaker 1: any rhythm in the running game and a positive yardage
Speaker 1: in the running game, And like you said, I said,
Speaker 1: and I have to look at that and take some
Speaker 1: real consideration to the fact that they have been doing
Speaker 1: a pretty dog on good job in past protecting but
Speaker 1: and run and run we have nothing. And so with this,
Speaker 1: with the shuffle of offensive linemen and the job that
Speaker 1: we've been able to do just over the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, I gotta go see minus, I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit in between you guys. I'll go be because I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's when dak is thrown one hundred and fifteen pass
Speaker 1: attempts with a compromised offensive line, and he's they've pretty
Speaker 1: much kept him upright for the last two games. I
Speaker 1: think that's pretty good. But at the same time, you're right,
Speaker 1: they haven't. They haven't and it's their own fault. They
Speaker 1: haven't established the balance they want to establish so in
Speaker 1: the run game. So I think they're somewhere in between.
Speaker 1: I think it's been decent, especially dealing with the injuries
Speaker 1: they've had, but it's not what they needed to be,
Speaker 1: and it's not where they expect to be, even with
Speaker 1: hiring being back. So yeah, and I kind of agree
Speaker 1: with you on that one, Rob, specifically based on the
Speaker 1: fact that whenever you're whenever you're looking at your report card,
Speaker 1: you don't really start getting those those progress reports and
Speaker 1: those bubble guts until you get around like the seventy eight,
Speaker 1: seventy seven mark eighty one, eighty two. You're feeling pretty
Speaker 1: good about where you're at. I'm still get a little
Speaker 1: bit of the bubble guts when I talk about this
Speaker 1: offensive line. So I'm gonna say a C plus in
Speaker 1: the regard of plus, haven't necessarily had you haven't necessarily
Speaker 1: had the running game that you want to. You've had
Speaker 1: these injuries, sure, but that should easily put you from
Speaker 1: a C plus through the first quarter of this season.
Speaker 1: Make me get you back to a B plus where
Speaker 1: Isaiah is by the time the next report card comes around,
Speaker 1: and then maybe, well we'll talk about getting you to
Speaker 1: an A in the third segment of the year. But
Speaker 1: spoil man, now we spoil. Well. We got made fun
Speaker 1: of yesterday for having too higher grades over here, Isaiah.
Speaker 1: We were saying, yeah, well, hey, yeah, who got the
Speaker 1: apple this morning? I left, Yeah, I left my apples downstairs.
Speaker 1: I was gonna bring some. Actually, they have faced a
Speaker 1: lot of uphill battles and they've done a heck of
Speaker 1: a job with what they've had to work with in
Speaker 1: comparison to what this offensive line has been in the past.
Speaker 1: So they've done a heck of a job for the
Speaker 1: guys that they for them to be. You know, Phil,
Speaker 1: hats off to you for playing you know, we're playing
Speaker 1: all these guys and moving them around and finding a
Speaker 1: way to keep your quarterback up right. They've protected the
Speaker 1: most the most valuable asset on their team, and as
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, I'm not gonna lie if if we were
Speaker 1: grading coaching jobs on this through the first quarter of
Speaker 1: the season, I think Philman would be right up there
Speaker 1: in terms of the coaching job that he's done in
Speaker 1: order to fix up this offensive line and get it
Speaker 1: to not only where it's serviceable, but is hopefully ascending
Speaker 1: throughout the rest of the season once you get tiring
Speaker 1: back for multiple weeks at a time. And then, of course,
Speaker 1: with Nillill Collins, hopefully they stick with Brandon night Over
Speaker 1: at the right tackle spot and you're feeling better about
Speaker 1: yourself here in the second quarter of a season. Okay,
Speaker 1: now here for the fun part. I want to see
Speaker 1: how low these grades can go, because Isaiah might have
Speaker 1: of first failing F grade here on the defensive line
Speaker 1: switching sides of the football. We'll let Isaiah go last.
Speaker 1: But heck who you got for the defensive line? A
Speaker 1: plus through F minus grade? Yeah, I'm look, we can't
Speaker 1: give an end for income, you know, we can't do that.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's gonna have to be an F. It's
Speaker 1: got to be an F. These look when you turn
Speaker 1: on the if it's just go from week one all
Speaker 1: the way through week four and it's a bit, it's
Speaker 1: it's horrible, and these guys are just getting beat And
Speaker 1: if you have gap assignment and you're just getting de
Speaker 1: boled out of your gap and guys getting blocked together reached,
Speaker 1: it's just ugly. And we talked about it now, and
Speaker 1: I posed the question to Isaiah about just drills and
Speaker 1: where the competition is in practice, just to see why
Speaker 1: guys are are getting man handled like this at the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. It's embarrassing. So there's no other grade
Speaker 1: to give the defensive line. Other than the F. I'm
Speaker 1: sure they give themselves an F. I'm not gonna go
Speaker 1: quite that bad. I'm gonna give him a D because
Speaker 1: I think I think Aldon Smith raises it a little
Speaker 1: bit in terms of what he's been able to do.
Speaker 1: First four games back five years gone. Uh, it wasn't
Speaker 1: good for anybody against the Browns. But he's giving him
Speaker 1: some some life upfront overall. But yeah, I mean, what
Speaker 1: what happened up front against the Browns? Um, you just
Speaker 1: can't it just can't happen. You know, they got dominated
Speaker 1: up front. We saw it in the running game, we
Speaker 1: saw it in the play action, and and it gives
Speaker 1: me concern going forward no matter who they're playing, whether
Speaker 1: it's the Giants or anybody. So I don't think de
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence has been a one hundred percent. I think
Speaker 1: he looked better in this game. But it's not good
Speaker 1: enough for everybody overall, as he said himself, So I'll
Speaker 1: go I'll go D. Yeah, I think I would go
Speaker 1: D minus getting apples D minus. No, it's not he's
Speaker 1: not getting apples. That D is is? I say, you're
Speaker 1: I know I can feel it. I can feel that
Speaker 1: you're about you must receive some apples. I feel it
Speaker 1: right now. The B plus. I mean, have you seen
Speaker 1: Alden Smith? No, no, no, no, this is a D
Speaker 1: minus job you straight up I like it. I like it.
Speaker 1: You haven't played well at all. The only reason I'm
Speaker 1: not giving it an F is Aldon Smith. He's been
Speaker 1: the one bright spot. If he's not there, this is
Speaker 1: an F at the straightforward F failure. We need to
Speaker 1: re not restructure, but we need to rethink the way
Speaker 1: that we play defensive line. I think this is a
Speaker 1: team that also are a part of the team that
Speaker 1: could turn things around as well. But right now it's
Speaker 1: sitting at a D minus right tinkering on the edge
Speaker 1: of an F. And I'm not afraid to do that
Speaker 1: in quarter two if they keep it up as well.
Speaker 1: So Rob and Kyle, you guys both got apples today.
Speaker 1: I knew Kyle was gonna gonna give him a D.
Speaker 1: But Rob, Rob, you give him that much credit. Rob,
Speaker 1: I'm keeping it real. Yes, Yes, a D a good
Speaker 1: grade like I didn't have these and fel good about it.
Speaker 1: D D means that you were sixty percent efficient, okay, D.
Speaker 1: I think I look at D and being like that sucks. Rob,
Speaker 1: Rob you kept Rob, You kept it real. Don't don't, Rob,
Speaker 1: you kept it real? Just am I wrong for saying
Speaker 1: for thinking that D is from sixty to sixty nine
Speaker 1: point nine percent? Am I wrong? Am I thinking? No? Okay?
Speaker 1: So so Rob and Kyle, you guys are saying that
Speaker 1: theory somewhere between sixty to sixty nine percent efficient all
Speaker 1: this defensive front. Sure, sure, yes that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I would say that. Heck heck I'm with you. Heck
Speaker 1: heck I'm with you. Okay, At all these snaps these
Speaker 1: guys have played, they are not grading out at sixty percent. Sorry,
Speaker 1: not happening. So if we're going by the book, these
Speaker 1: guys are F minus minus minus. Yeah, if that's the thing,
Speaker 1: whatever that is, like, whatever that is created F minus.
Speaker 1: These guys have not had a presence. There's not one
Speaker 1: offensive line in this league that respects them. And for
Speaker 1: that reason, you get an F minus and hopefully, but
Speaker 1: they're going to dominate Sunday. They don't. Yeah, they're gonna
Speaker 1: dominate this on it because they have that, because because
Speaker 1: they have the talent to be a plus. Right, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a light right, So there's a light switch.
Speaker 1: So right now, the light switch is off these guys
Speaker 1: because easily walk in the locker room today and flick
Speaker 1: that dog on light on and say, guess what, I'm
Speaker 1: a man. I'm not gonna be disrespected by another man.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out here and play ball to the wall.
Speaker 1: But they haven't done that so far. But they can, right,
Speaker 1: they absolutely can. The New York Giants offensive line can't.
Speaker 1: They they're light. They just they have no power. They
Speaker 1: didn't pay the bill right, They can't flick it on
Speaker 1: the offer at all, Right, but our defensive line can.
Speaker 1: So to date they are are f like all the
Speaker 1: way F capital f change, all the funt it talisize
Speaker 1: it underlining bold. They've been at F and that because
Speaker 1: of that, they know that, like Heck said, they know
Speaker 1: that they play like that. So wake up, go play
Speaker 1: some ball and get a dog on a this week.
Speaker 1: Get your confidence back, fellas. Yeah, it's got to be
Speaker 1: about it's got to be about pride because they know
Speaker 1: that everywhere if they can't even turn on the television
Speaker 1: without you know, every national media outlets saying that they're
Speaker 1: the laughing stock of the NFL. So this guy, this
Speaker 1: has to be about pride. And you just go through
Speaker 1: the names of the guys that we have. These are
Speaker 1: besides from Tristan Hill, most of these guys have been
Speaker 1: in the league for a pretty good while and that's
Speaker 1: you know, look their reputations in their pride. A lot
Speaker 1: of these guys, man, they don't want to have that
Speaker 1: stepped on, and they've been getting a beating in the media.
Speaker 1: It's a veteran laden group that is about underwhelming. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's the plane and simple, cut and dry way
Speaker 1: of putting it. They have been underwhelming and right on
Speaker 1: tinkering on the edge of a failing grade overall, but
Speaker 1: none of it has been good. Hopefully that life switch
Speaker 1: turns on this weekend and we'll talk about the other
Speaker 1: side of the football tomorrow in terms of the Cowboys
Speaker 1: offense in the Giants defense, which is probably a much
Speaker 1: more entertaining matchup than the one we talked about today
Speaker 1: throughout the course of our last forty five minutes. But
Speaker 1: we'll also hit the linebackers in secondary grades for the
Speaker 1: start of the season tomorrow to wrap things up on
Speaker 1: our Thursday edition. But that's gonna do it here for
Speaker 1: Wednesday on Talking cow Special thanks to Chris Beam in
Speaker 1: the backbuff for Hector Harrison, Rob Phillips and Isaiah stand Back.
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long, thanks for listening. We'll
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