1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news, The. 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: Stock Movers Report, your roundup of companies making moves in 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: the stock market, harnessing the power of Bloomberg Data. 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: Let's look at some of the stocks on the move 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: today in Europe. I'm Lizzie Burden with Stephen Carroll and 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: rejoined by Bloomberg reporter Chloe Melly. Chloe, I'm looking at 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: SAP shares down ten point eight percent. It's a dramatic 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: round turn. This is the most valuable software company in Europe. 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: How did it get here? 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very very bad day forair SAP. 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 4: So the reason why it's done so much today is 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 4: because the growth the growth are in its cloud backlog 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 4: disappointed investors quite a lot and was below the company's 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 4: at target. And so that's a big problem given that 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 4: the cloud business is absolutely essential to SAP's a strategy, 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 4: and the CEOs started this pivot a few years ago, 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty, from selling software licenses at that 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 4: clients would operate on local servers to offering software subscriptions 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 4: that were in the cloud directly. So that was a 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 4: move that investors were really keen on at first, and 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 4: the share price actually hit a record last year on 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 4: the back of that, but now there are some concerns 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 4: around the potentially negative impact of artificial intelligence on that strategy. 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 4: There's worries that AI powered tools can potentially displace what 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 4: enterprise software companies like SAP can actually offer, and SAP 26 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 4: is trying to kind of get ahead of this and 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 4: offer customers AI applications in the cloud, but then you know, 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 4: the disruption from new entrants into the market is. 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 3: Still a threat. 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 4: And this disappointing cloud growth backlog is it was taken 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 4: as very very disappointing from investors, and despite the fact 32 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 4: that it also announced a ten billion or a buyback, 33 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 4: the shares are still way down. So that really tells 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 4: you the extent of how disappointed investors were, because usually 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 4: buybacks get them quite excited. 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 37 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 5: Indeed, and in case anyone's a bit believed by the 38 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 5: term cloud backlog, this is services essentially that they have 39 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 5: contracted and sold but not yet recognized as revenue. So 40 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 5: it's the indicator, as you say, Chloe, of the revenue 41 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 5: that will come down the line from cloud for the company. 42 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 5: So that's why it's getting so much focused today. But 43 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 5: we want to turn next to st Micro's results beating estimates, 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 5: how are investors receiving them? 45 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems that software with SIP he's not doing 46 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: too well. 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 4: But then the hardware part of that tech market is 48 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 4: so st Micro is a supplier of chips for a 49 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 4: Tesla and Apple and then also to industrial companies and 50 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 4: car makers, and its outlook for sales in the first 51 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: quarter was ahead of expectations, and that was seen as 52 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 4: a sign that there's a recovery potential recovery in those 53 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 4: end markets. And this also echoes the results that we've 54 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 4: got from Texas Instruments, which is a company over in 55 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 4: the US, which also reported this week and also provides 56 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: those chips mostly to customers that are not AI customers, 57 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 4: to industrial, automotive, personal electronics clients, and so the outlook 58 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 4: for the first quarter from that company was also surprising good. 59 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 4: And so this indicates that those customers in industrial and markets, 60 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 4: automotive and markets have started to work through the massive 61 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: inventory that accumulated post pandemic and are starting to buy 62 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: again and invest again. 63 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 3: So it seems that chip demand is picking. 64 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: Up beyond AI, although it's still worth noting that the 65 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 4: auto sector is still a little bit weaker, but this 66 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: is quite encouraging for the sector as a whole. Now. 67 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: Clariy Deutsche shares are down two point eight percent. Deutsche 68 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: Bank out with earnings this morning, but it seems they've 69 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: been overshadowed by that. 70 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: Raid on them. 71 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, so at first onance, it looks really positive for 72 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 4: Doutsche Bank. 73 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: As you said, there's strong earnings, really. 74 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 4: Solid fixed income trading, a one billion euro buy bag. 75 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 4: But the problem is that, as you said, the results 76 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 4: were overshadowed by this raid on the on the Dotchebak offices, 77 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 4: which happened just yesterday. 78 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: And this is a probe that is around money laundering. 79 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: It's centered around it's said to be centered around the 80 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 4: past dealings of staff members with firms that were linked 81 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 4: to Roman Abramovich, who is now sanctioned. And this is 82 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 4: really a fresh headache for the CEO. And it's not 83 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 4: the only kind of legal challenge that he is facing 84 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: at the moment. There's also another lawsuit which was filed 85 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 4: by a group of former managers that alleged that they 86 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 4: were wrongfully blamed in an accounting scandal at Montepesci. So 87 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 4: there's a few different challenges that the Dotche Bank is facing, 88 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 4: and those are taking center stage now. And unfortunately for 89 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: the bank, the great results that they posted were just 90 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 4: maybe not enough to make investors forget about those illegal 91 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: headaches coming down the line. 92 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: The Stock Movers report from Bloomberg Radio. Check back with 93 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 2: us throughout the day for the latest roundup of companies 94 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: making news on Wall Street and for the latest market 95 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: moving headlines. Listen to Bloomberg Radio Live, catch us on YouTube, 96 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: Bloomberg dot com, and on Applecarplay and Android Auto with 97 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: the Bloomberg Business app.