1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Kenny, thank you for being here, Thanks for having me man, 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: good to see you. This is our first Netflix episode, 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: so I am honored. Thank you very much. I have 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: my hometown sign up here. Yeah, I see that seven 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy two people story behind it? Yeah, or 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: not that one? Well, no, that's the literal. Well, they 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: had three of them, and I asked for the design 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: of it, and they sent this. The designs ordered it. 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: But the one in my hometown literally has bullet holes 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: all in it. 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: So somebody didn't like Bobby. 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: Somebody. I think he's a tired of my name. Somebody 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: on the town. 14 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: Somebody was jealous of Bobby. 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: How many people in Lectoral, Tennessee. 16 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know, maybe a little more than seven hundred. 17 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: Did you guys have like a Walmart or anything? 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: No? 19 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean obviously we had. 20 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 3: A church, We had a post office, we had a 21 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 3: couple of meeting threes. And that's I mean, that's like 22 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: an old school grocery store. Like not. It was a 23 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: mom in pop grocery store. It wasn't like any of 24 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: the change. You know, we had to go in the 25 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 3: Knoxville to get to go to Kroger or anything. 26 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: Like that. I was gonna ask if there was town, 27 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: because for us to go to town, then we went to 28 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: Hot Springs and that's where Walmart was. 29 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 2: That's right. 30 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: No, we would go into town at Christmas. I mean, 31 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: I didn't go down a lot of roads as a kid. 32 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: I went down the road I lived with my grandmother 33 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: for three or four years, so that meant I knew 34 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: the road to church on Wednesday night, on Sunday morning 35 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: and Sunday night, and I knew the. 36 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: Road to the ballpark where I played ball. 37 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: That's it. 38 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: But my grandfather was one of these people, you know, 39 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: during Christmas, he goes, let's all get in the car 40 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: and drive to Knoxville to see the lights. 41 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: And that was a big deal. 42 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: So how far was that forty five minutes maybe, but 43 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: it might as well have been four or five hours. 44 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: We didn't go that much. So that's how I grew up. 45 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: So that when I came in and saw that, oh wow, 46 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: because they put one up for me in my hometown 47 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: and somebody just took it down. 48 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: They just did. They didn't want to see it. So literally, there. 49 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: Wasn't a compliment like someone stolen because so. 50 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 3: Maybe it's I mean there's a small chance that that's it, 51 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: but you could just I don't know, you could just 52 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 3: feel the jealousy or something that you made it. Either way, 53 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: it was gone and they didn't put another one back, 54 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: but they did put another one, like right down from 55 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: where my grandmother used to live, and this one did 56 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: make me happy. They put another one up because right 57 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: in front of the Latoral City Hall there was this 58 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: big sign from me growing up that said home of 59 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: Country Music Entertainer where they say Chad Atkins right. Well, 60 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: now there's one of me right beside ched Atkins, and 61 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: that makes me very happy because that was a kid. Look, 62 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: I was a kid looking at that. Now I got 63 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: my own sign right next to him. 64 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: So you mentioned your grandma and grandpa. My grandma adopted 65 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: me and raised me growing up. What was the story 66 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: with your grandparents raising or at least living with them. 67 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 3: Well, my mom, my mom, and my real father divorced 68 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: before I was one, and then my mom got married 69 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: to my grand I mean to my stepfather, and then. 70 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: He went to Vietnam. 71 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: So we lived with my mom's parents for three or 72 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 3: four years. So that's where I first heard country music. 73 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 3: You know, I I uh would get up every morning 74 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: when uh, this is going a little further back. My 75 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: mom and my grandmother were pregnant at the same time 76 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: having me and my aunt Missy no way, so they 77 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: were in the hospital at the same time almost having us. 78 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: So I grew up with my aunt like I thought, 79 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: you know, I thought she was my sister, but not really, 80 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: she was my mom's sister. Makes sense why this is 81 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: really for people listening on Netflix. 82 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: It's from really East Tennessee stuff. But that's how it happened, 83 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: you know. 84 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: So when my Aunt Missy and I got old enough 85 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: to go to elementary school, my grandmother went to work 86 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: in the school cafeteria. So I would get up every 87 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: morning with her and we would go early because she 88 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: had to open up the cafeteria for school and all 89 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: the lunches. And that's where I first heard comfry music 90 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: was in her house that morning, you know, those mornings 91 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: getting ready to go to school. 92 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: Who was born first, you or your aunt? 93 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: My aunt Missy six days before me. She's six days 94 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: older than me. 95 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: My Arkansas version of that story is my mom who 96 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: had me when she was fifteen, but her and her 97 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: sister married my biological dad, who I don't know in 98 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: his brother. So my cousins are double cousins, almost incest, yeah, 99 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: but not quiet, not quite. We're as close as you 100 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: can be. But it was two sisters and two brothers. 101 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: Oh you understand. Yeah, no one really got it. I 102 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: was like, we're double cousins. And they were like, does 103 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: that mean you do it with them? I was like, no, no, no, no, 104 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: you got the wrong idea. But you're not far off, 105 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: not far off. So what kind of country music did 106 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: you hear? 107 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: Well? In her in her house, it was bluegrass. It 108 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: was it was just this. 109 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: It was just this, this show on TV called the 110 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: kas Walker something our you know. He had a he 111 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: had a chain of grocery stores in East Tennessee. And 112 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 3: it's funny the things you remember, right because he had 113 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: a slogan, And I guess I can say this, but 114 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: the slogan was, you can beat our prices, but you 115 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: can't beat our meat, no way. 116 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: Swear to God. I remember that as a child. 117 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: That's true story. So I guess my question would be 118 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: because that's so funny, and it would not work now. 119 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: It wouldn't work now. Did beat our meat mean the 120 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: same thing back then? 121 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: I didn't know what that even meant as a child 122 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: when I heard it. 123 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: You know, I know, But do you think that was 124 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: a masturbation reference that like a joke? 125 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: Then it possibly, I mean it had to have been, 126 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: I would think so. 127 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: I think it would have had to have been. 128 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: But these were adults that made up that were down 129 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: in the market. 130 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 3: So funny, right, these were adults that were doing the marketing, 131 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: so they had to have they couldn't have been that. 132 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: It's like if a frat had a grocery store. 133 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: That's that's the kind of So that's where I first 134 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: heard this music with the three par harmonies and all 135 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: this stuff, you know. 136 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: So, but that's It's. 137 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: Funny though, what happens to you as a kid, or 138 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: these things that you think that are really insignificant when 139 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: they happened to you in your life, and then you 140 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: grow up and you go into your life and those 141 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 3: small things meant everything, you know, And that's that's the 142 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: way it is for me in several places. 143 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: Whenever my grandmother was playing music for me, I thought 144 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: what she was playing was current because it's what I heard. 145 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: And it were a lot of gospel records like Andy 146 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: Grippa's Gospel Records, Ray Charles country music. Ye, a lot 147 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: of Johnny Cash because he was from Arkansas, the same 148 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: reason that I'm sure, yeah, you love people from Tennessee 149 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: or your hometown, like, but I thought that was contemporary 150 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: country music. 151 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 3: Well, I heard a lot of you know. Of course, 152 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 3: Dolly Parton was from East Tennessee. And there was a 153 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: friend of my you know, of our family who I 154 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: still love his singing is a guy named Con Huntley. 155 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: Con Huntley was from Knoxville, and I still look up 156 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: to him. So those people taught me that or showed 157 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: me that it was possible for the things that were 158 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: rattling around in my head. Right. But growing up it 159 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: was kind of like you. I mean, I my mom 160 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: loved Alabama. She loved Merle Haggard, you know. And it 161 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 3: wasn't until I got into into high school that I 162 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: heard about Leonard skinnerd and I heard about Tom Petty. 163 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: And I didn't know the genius of Bruce Springsteen or 164 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: Bob Dylan or any of that stuff until I got 165 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: into college. Because my musical taste now is very diverse, 166 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: it's you know, but I can tell you that I 167 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: was always drawn to and curious about the people that 168 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: wrote their own songs. 169 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: Were you musical in high school? 170 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: Not really? 171 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: You just played ball? 172 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: I was, it was singing, so, but I was. It 173 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: was in college where I decided that, you know, my 174 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: mom and my aunt Sharon, my family saying I and 175 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: I did too. 176 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: I just didn't know. 177 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: I had no idea, Bobby, that I was going to 178 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: do this for when you said I was going to 179 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: want to make this my life, I was. I was 180 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: an athlete, My father was a coach. I thought that 181 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: I was going to be in some sort of an 182 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: athlete or do something in sports with my life because 183 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: I was very passionate about it, and I'm still passionate 184 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: about sports. Sports and music are two passions in my life. 185 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: Then where did you sing as a kid? Like church? 186 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: Church, school? But never? I mean I was in college 187 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: before I was. 188 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 3: I had a guitar and I was sitting outside my 189 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: apartment complex my freshman year in college, and there was 190 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: a couple of people that lived, you know, like it 191 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: was outside. You'd walk outside and there was a you know, 192 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: it's just the outside part of our apartment and you'd 193 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 3: walk down to all the doors and you know, so 194 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: I would sit outside and people could hear me playing. 195 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: And there was a couple of people that said, you know, 196 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that plays at Chucky's Trading Post. 197 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: This is in Johnson City, Tennessee. There's people playing down 198 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: there every night at Chucky's Trading Post for tips, doing 199 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: exactly what you're doing right here at your apartment, and. 200 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: You're doing it for free. It's basically what they're saying. 201 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: You can do that, really, and it just kind of 202 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: sparked my imagination, and I called them to see if 203 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: I could come down and play for them. And actually 204 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: before that, I went to see what they were doing, 205 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: you know, and I was Me and my buddies went 206 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: there to eat, and I did I didn't even tell 207 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: my buddies what I was. What was really the purpose 208 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: of the trip? 209 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: Did you have to go on play for them? Yes, 210 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: So I talked to somebody. 211 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 3: I talked to a waitress that night, and then after 212 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: that she introduced me to the manager and I told 213 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 3: her what I wanted to do. I said, I want 214 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: to do that let that guy's doing up there, and 215 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: she goes, well, come here Saturday and play me some songs. 216 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: When you do that, are you nervous? 217 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: Because you have a very Because I didn't have a 218 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: lot of material, she asked me, you know, I played 219 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: her a couple of songs. I could see she was 220 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: looking at me and grinning, you know, and she goes, well, 221 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: how much material do you have? I said maybe an hour. 222 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 3: She goes, well, you're gonna need four. So I had 223 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 3: to get I had to learn some material. 224 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: What do you what did you know then? What do 225 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: you think you would have played? Then? 226 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: Well? I know what I played. I mean, I played 227 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: a lot of country music that I loved. I played. 228 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: You know, George Straight, Randy Travis was was blowing up 229 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: at that time. I played a lot of ran I 230 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: played some Hank Junior, I played the Eagles, I played 231 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: Jimmy Buffett, I played just a random Leonard skinnerd I 232 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: loved them. I played a little bit of Bruce, even 233 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 3: though I wasn't that familiar with his catalog. There was 234 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: a couple of songs that I really loved, like one 235 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: Step Up, which I would end up recording years later 236 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: on the No Shoes album. I just played a lot 237 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 3: of a lot of stuff. And it was me and 238 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: a tip jar and a bunch of people that were 239 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 3: there to have dinner. But I didn't want them, you know, 240 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: they were having conversation. I wanted them to listen to me. 241 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: So I it was a glimpse into the future a 242 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: little bit because I would just I was really loud 243 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: in there, you know, and they had I got to 244 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: talking to a couple of times of management. Oh, they 245 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: didn't want you to be that want me to be 246 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 3: that loud? I said, well, I want them, you know, 247 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 3: to pay attention to me. And so I learned my 248 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 3: lesson there, had to turn it down some, but it 249 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: was it was truly a glimpse into the future. 250 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: Cause if you come to our shows. 251 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: In any any kind of environment, it's a it's it's 252 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 3: not timid. 253 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: I want to come back to this exact point, but 254 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: it reminds me because you're going to do Sphere Part two. Yes, 255 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: So I didn't come out. I know I should have 256 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: come out. 257 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 2: But. 258 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: People aren't looking at you because you've built such imagery 259 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: and you're talking about like people. They didn't go to 260 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: listen to you. But it just it made me think 261 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: of this. It's ironic, right that you're in this Sphere 262 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: and you've built this entire career. One of the great 263 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: you're you're a current and a great at the same time, 264 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: which is wild because that is unique. Yeah, very unique. 265 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: But again, you've built this show to where people aren't 266 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: looking at you. I know, that's got to be weird 267 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: to even do that the first time, right. 268 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 3: And you look at the beginning, it was weird, I'll 269 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: tell you, but they can't. You just can't help yourself 270 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: because it's it's such an emotional experience and a visual experience. 271 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: So you know, at first, you know, we're up there 272 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: playing and there's like I said, people are just like 273 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: they're processing what's happening to them. 274 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: But that's weird for you because that's never happened to you, that. 275 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 3: Not until until early not since early on in my career, 276 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: you know. But luckily, over the years I have you know, 277 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 3: learned how to control an audience and learn how to 278 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: talk to an audience, and slowly but surely, you know, 279 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: we were able to get their attention and pull them 280 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: across the fence to us and still have them see 281 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: what's going on. I mean us as a band, we're 282 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: doing it. You know, we're like the first the first weekend, 283 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: you know, to be up there in that space and 284 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: playing our music and we're just like, Wow. 285 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 2: You're watching it. We're watching it too. 286 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: Wow. 287 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: Oh this is unbelievable. 288 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: But that's what that's what makes Plansphere so incredible is 289 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: you know, when you go to a regular show, there's 290 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 3: the band and there's the audience, and some people even 291 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: put a sheer between the two. 292 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: I don't like that. 293 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 3: I say, come here, you know, we're gonna love on 294 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: each other all night. But still in a regular show, 295 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: there's there's a separation of the stage and the audience. 296 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: Playing Sphere, it's like we're all in there together. It's 297 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: just such a shared experience and it's hard to explain. 298 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: And it took it. 299 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 3: I think it took us the first three shows, like 300 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: and we're going to do it this year. We played 301 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 3: three shows a week. We did Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, and 302 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: I think it took us the first weekend to learn it. 303 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 3: And after that we were able to bring them across 304 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: the fence to us and and we're able to make 305 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: it as more of a normal show as it possibly 306 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: could because there is nothing about it normal. Everything is 307 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: so immersed and it's like, oh wow, the band, the crew, 308 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 3: then then there's the audience. And then there's the content 309 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: that is not just behind you, it's here, it's it's 310 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: over there, it's you could see it behind the crowd, 311 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: you know. 312 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: So it took us. 313 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: It took me a minute to focus, right, So, but 314 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: we're looking forward to it, you know now. It's it's 315 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: it's a much less learning curve this year because honestly, 316 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: you know, getting ready to do it and preparing all 317 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: the content and figuring out how it all works was there. 318 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: There was a learning curve to it, and now we 319 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: were preparing for it and we're going, oh, yeah, we 320 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: don't need to do this this this works better this way, 321 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: you know which, and we're changing you know, a third 322 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 3: of it because you know, there's probably going to be 323 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: some people come this year that came last year, and 324 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: it's like going to the circus every year. You want 325 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: to see different tricks. 326 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: Back to the restaurant. Did you know when you started 327 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: playing the restaurant that that's what you might want to 328 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: do your whole life? Or did playing that restaurant make 329 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: you go, this is what I want to do my 330 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: whole life. 331 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 3: It wasn't the restaurant I went wow, this is cool. 332 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 3: I was I had a tip jar and I would leave, 333 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 3: you know, with some cash in my pocket every night. 334 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: And I was in college and I was it was 335 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: at a Mexican restaurant, and I was getting free enchiladas 336 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: every night, and I was, I don't know, when you're 337 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: in college and you get a free dinner every every night. 338 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: I was playing four nights a week eventually, and then 339 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: it went from there to me playing in a real bar. 340 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: Did you build a fan based on the restaurant? Yes, 341 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: like read regulars. 342 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: So it's kind of like there was there was four 343 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: or five groups and bands in town. Uh, there was 344 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: a there was a there was a band called Plaine 345 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: Jane has No Date. 346 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: There was a sounds like an alternative band it was 347 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: it was Yeah. 348 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: And there was a group kind of it was kind. 349 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: Of garage bandish group called Stinky Finger. And then there 350 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: was a couple of guys playing guitar. There was this 351 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: great guy named Alex Augburn who played everything, and I 352 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: was the country guy. Right, So I started to build 353 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: a little bit of a following. And but it was 354 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: in a bar called Quarterbacks Barbecue, and it had no 355 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: windows and it was about as big as this room. 356 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: Right, did you play any songs that were your own 357 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: at this point, well, I mean, I like, did you 358 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: write any songs at the bar? 359 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: I had. 360 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: I had a couple of songs that I had written, 361 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: but I wasn't. I knew better, you know. 362 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: Because I was. 363 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: I was getting to a point where I was like, 364 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 3: oh wow, people were actually especially in the bar setting. 365 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 3: They they were listening and there were people in front 366 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 3: of me for the first time. And it was one 367 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: of those late nights of playing in that place, and 368 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: there was smoke everywhere and I didn't smoke, but I 369 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: would go home after playing these places and I would 370 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: smell like I did, you know, it was like in 371 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 3: my it was like my skin, you know. But it 372 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: was one of those nights where I saw a connection 373 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 3: with just a few people and they felt it, I 374 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 3: felt it, and they cared about what I was doing, 375 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 3: and I was I was learning how to do this, 376 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: and I was getting better at having I was, you know, 377 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 3: just getting better at all of it. And it was 378 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 3: one of those nights that I went, Wow, this might 379 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: be something that I might really this might be my life. 380 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 3: And look I was I thought I was. I was 381 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: a marketing major and I was going to do something, 382 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 3: you know with that. But I had no idea that 383 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: music was going to become. 384 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 2: My life like this. Obviously, you know you can't dream that. 385 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, 386 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 4: and we're back on the Bobby Cast. 387 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: What would you have done if you wouldn't have had 388 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: those nights that made you go, ah, I think it's music. 389 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: You're a major. What do you think you'd be? 390 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 2: I don't know. 391 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: I mean I think that I think on some level, 392 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: i'd be playing music somewhere. But I don't think if 393 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 3: if it wasn't my life, it would be, you know, 394 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: for fun, because that's what I still believe. Music is 395 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 3: still fun to me. Creating and playing music on stage 396 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 3: is still funded me. But it would be something I 397 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: think within sports it would be I don't I don't know. 398 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: I might be Bobby Bones, who knows, I might I 399 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: might be doing something in radio, or I might be 400 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: something we're doing, working for marketing for something for someone 401 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: I don't know I've Can you see how uncomfortable I 402 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 3: am on answering that because I really have no idea. 403 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: I mean, this was a godsend. I mean, this was 404 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 3: what I was supposed to do what I. 405 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: Was put down here to do. 406 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: Did you finish school? 407 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: Yes, I got a I graduated East Tennessee State University 408 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: in Johnson City, Tennessee, in December of nineteen ninety. 409 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: Then what happens right when you graduated? You move here? 410 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: I moved to Nashville less than a month after that. 411 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: So were you nash Are you planning to move here though? 412 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: After you graduated? Yes? 413 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 3: And I moved I moved to Tennessee. I mean, I 414 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 3: mean I was in Tennessee. I moved to Nashville January thirteenth, 415 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety one. And the reason I know that is 416 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: that's because that was the day the first Gulf War started. 417 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: Not W's not President W. George Bush, but his daddy. 418 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: When we went in, was that all the on screw 419 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: se you saw like the bombing at night in Iraq? Yeah? 420 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: Like I could that was happening when I first moved 421 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 3: to Nashville. It's funny, I didn't know anybody. 422 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: I Yeah, what was it like when you moved here? Like, 423 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: what are the memories of you move into town? 424 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: It was like. 425 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 3: I think, I think, you know, my mom and my 426 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 3: family thought this was something that I was going to 427 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 3: do for you know, a little bit, and decide it 428 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: wasn't working and come home and get a job like 429 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 3: the guys that work with me out on the road. 430 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: Tim Hope, Daryl Hobby, and David Farmer, those guys. I 431 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 3: went to elementary school with them, I went to high 432 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 3: school with them. We were all college roommates. And they 433 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 3: have been on the road with me almost this whole time. 434 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 3: And David is my real manager, and Tim and Darrell 435 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: run my merch company, you know. But I think they 436 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 3: thought at the time that I was just going to 437 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 3: come home and get a job like them. But because 438 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 3: Tim and Darrell went to work for a Credit Union 439 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 3: and Classic and right, and I was, I was down 440 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: here trying to meet people and write songs. 441 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: But I got a publishing deal pretty quickly. 442 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 3: I mean. 443 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 2: It was a little over a year. 444 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: I got a publishing dealt at Acuff Rose Music, which 445 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 3: was eventually bought by Sony. 446 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: But it was crazy, Bobby. 447 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: All of a sudden, I was in town about a 448 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 3: month and I was playing down on Lower Broadway at 449 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 3: at a bar that no longer. 450 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 2: Exist is called the Turf Covers again covers. 451 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,239 Speaker 3: Kind of like I did in college because I had 452 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 3: been doing that for two or three years in college 453 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 3: and once and then I got here. I got to Nashville, 454 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: and there was nowhere to do that unless you wanted 455 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 3: to go down there. 456 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: And and. 457 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 3: You know, get uh get it was an area of town. 458 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: Now if you go down the Lower Broadway. Now, you know, 459 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: every singer's got a bar. It's like, you know, there's 460 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 3: it's a bachelorette destination for whatever reason. It's it's much different. 461 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 3: It was well, I mean there was a there was 462 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: a yeah it was. It was dirtier and a little 463 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: more dangerous than it is now, but still it had 464 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: a lot of charm that built this town. And I 465 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: got to see that and I was down there. That's 466 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 3: what I did. But when I first got to town. 467 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: Did you audition again there like you did at the 468 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: barbecue place? Yeah? 469 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: But I I auditioned that afternoon and and sang that night. 470 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 3: So it was pretty wonderful. 471 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: Was it another night of four hour sets? 472 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was a yeah, it was forty 473 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 3: five minutes on and fifteen minutes off. I did that 474 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 3: four times and and so I would do that at 475 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 3: nine and I was able to write during the day, 476 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: and I would. I was parking cars at a couple 477 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: of places around town, uh, you know, working valets and 478 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 3: doing all that kind of stuff. But then when I 479 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: got when I got signed Aca Froze, it was all 480 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 3: of a sudden. I mean, it was bigger than life 481 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 3: to me because I was in the hallways and seeing 482 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 3: people that I truly looked up to, like you know, 483 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 3: Dean Dylon and Wade Schaeffer and Don Samson and Skip 484 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 3: Ewing and all these people that were great songwriters. And 485 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: I was in those rooms. I couldn't understand why, but 486 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: I was there, and that truly changed my life. 487 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: When you're valeting cars here, did you valet for anyone famous? 488 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 3: A lot of executives, right, I don't remember valeting or 489 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 3: anybody that was that was famous. 490 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: No, Johnny Cashtrum, the truck, none of that. 491 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 3: I think I think it wasn't his car. But Kenny 492 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: Rogers was in one of the cars that I did valet, 493 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 3: you know. But I remember a lot of the executives 494 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 3: would roll in and I would I would, I would 495 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: valet their car, and that was and I was used 496 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: to my mom's car and my grandmother's car, and then 497 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 3: the truck that I had that didn't have air conditioning 498 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 3: in it. Right now, I would I would get their 499 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 3: car and when I would valet it, I would go, 500 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 3: I go, damn, this this smells really successful, you know 501 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 3: what I mean? 502 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: It was just different if. 503 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: You drop off your car truck now, and I've had 504 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: this happen to me, especially when I've the first five 505 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: or six years here, people would leave music in my car. 506 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 2: Oh, they that's happened to you? 507 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Or if I'm eating dinner. Yeah, And I've 508 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: had it before where people would leave something like a 509 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: waiter and I would take time. I've brought them up 510 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: on the show before if they were good, and some 511 00:23:59,280 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: of them weren't. 512 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 3: Right. 513 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: But the problem with that was when I did it 514 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 1: and talked about it, then it created more of that. 515 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. 516 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: I know. 517 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: Has that happened to you as it in and now 518 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 3: it's more Yes, that's happened to me a lot, but 519 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 3: not in leaving leaving it in my car or whatever. Look, 520 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 3: my mom used to cut hair for a living, right, 521 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: so people would just come there and just drop off 522 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 3: stuff to her. 523 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: I mean that was there. That was one way. 524 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: You know. 525 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 3: Now it's much different because they don't have to go anywhere. 526 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 3: They can just send it to you on social media. 527 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah have you have you got? 528 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? So much so that it's everywhere all the time 529 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: that I don't see anything. People are always sending me 530 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: stuff because it's so much. 531 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't because I don't want to listen 532 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: to any of it because I don't want them to 533 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 3: come back at me and going, hey, I sent you this, 534 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 3: and you recorded some kind of similar, like in some 535 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 3: lyric that I didn't even write, you know what I mean? 536 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: So I just I got my people. 537 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: I had to buy insurance because when I started recording 538 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: comedy music, I had to buy insurance that said if 539 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: I get sued because I hear something, if somebody hands 540 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: me something and they sued me my business manager. And 541 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: again business manager was new to me much less having 542 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: to buy insurance for stealing somebody's song, and I thought 543 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: that was wild. But because I was taking and listening 544 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: to so much new music for one part of my career, 545 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: I had to have insurance to cover me in case 546 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: someone said, oh, I gave you this music and you 547 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: recorded a funny song and there's a couple lyrics in 548 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: that that you took. I thought that was wild. 549 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: Now I get also that. 550 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 3: Look, people are trying to build their own dream and 551 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 3: they're trying to find their way, and I'm like, I 552 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: was that person. But I don't think I ever left. 553 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: I mean I never left a CD and IRV Woolsey's 554 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 3: truck or his car. 555 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: Did you think about it, right? 556 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 3: I mean I didn't have to actually, because I was 557 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: a writer for a cuff Rose and then they had 558 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: people to take to walk it across the street and 559 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: give it to Irvin George or whatever, you know. But 560 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: I understand why they're doing it. But to this point 561 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: now it's just so it's such the wild, wild West 562 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 3: out there. I can't I don't ever listen unless it's 563 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 3: given to me by people that I really trust. 564 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: When you move here, But when you got a publishing deal, 565 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: did you come with a bunch of songs? 566 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? Like that they weren't refined at all. I mean 567 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 3: I had to learn, you know. Look, I learned from 568 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: Afar Like I loved songwriters, and I learned so songwriting, 569 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: and so I when I first started writing songs, and 570 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 3: then I started looking at a lot of the people 571 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 3: that I loved who were songwriters, and their songs. I 572 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 3: realized that those were a lot more, a lot more 573 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 3: well crafted than what I was doing. Mine was like, 574 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: I'd write a song about a girl and it was 575 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: seven minutes long, you know, and I realized, you know, Okay, 576 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 3: that doesn't work. That's not going to work if I 577 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 3: want to do this, you know. But I one of 578 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 3: the first people I met in Nashville. There were a 579 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 3: few people that really, you know, gave me a lot 580 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: of great advice. And that was Klay Bradley at BMI 581 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 3: at the time, and he's there now. A guy named 582 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,239 Speaker 3: Tom Collins. There was a guy named Jeff Gordon, not 583 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 3: the not the NASCAR driver, but there was a guy 584 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: that worked at MCA named Jeff Gordon, and I was 585 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 3: able to go and play him songs. And then there 586 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: was a girl that really became a huge part of 587 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 3: my record making life. Her name was Renee Bell and 588 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 3: Renee Bell and I made almost every record that people 589 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: have heard in my career. And those people were able to, 590 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 3: you know, give me a lot of direction when I 591 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 3: first came to town, which was a blessing. Not everybody 592 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 3: has that, you know, but they I think they could 593 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 3: see how much I wanted wanted it, and I think 594 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: they could see how much I loved creating and how 595 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 3: much I cared about songwriters and songs and I still do. 596 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: When you moved here, did you play any like rex 597 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: softball leagues or any like, because you're an athlete. And 598 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: when I moved here, it was like, how do I 599 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: find people that by way? I I didn't know. You 600 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: gave it, they gave that all up played. 601 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, well really, I mean, I love sports 602 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 3: so much, and that's the thing. One of the things 603 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 3: I missed the most, Like me and my buddies out 604 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 3: on the road, you know, one of the one of 605 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 3: the things that we have that we feel very grateful 606 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 3: and fortunate for is we're out there on the road 607 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 3: and you're on the bus outside of the Pittsburgh Steeter 608 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 3: Football Stadium. 609 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: We were, Wow, this is amazing. 610 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: You know. We would go in and play all these places. 611 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 3: And when I played the Rose Bowl in Pasady in California, 612 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 3: I brought my dad and his buddies out there because 613 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many times I've sat on 614 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: a couch a lot like this, went and watched the 615 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 3: Rose Bowl with my father, and now all of a sudden. 616 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 3: I'm a small part of that history, you know, through music. 617 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 3: So we have we've talked about the thing that that 618 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: we missed the most, and the thing that I miss 619 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: a lot is competitive sports. I don't have that much 620 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 3: in my life anymore. You know, Uh, maybe one day 621 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 3: I'll I'll get on church softball team or something. 622 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 4: You know. 623 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 1: I started playing pickleball, and I started competing at pickleball. 624 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: Well, I got a lot of friends that play pickleball too. 625 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: Do you like that I need to compete at something? Yeah, 626 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: Like I love to play ball, and so pickleball you 627 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: could pick it up pretty easy. I'm still pretty athletic. 628 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: I was playing tournaments. I was driving, and I was 629 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: playing in like three point five tournaments, which is a 630 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: pretty high level. Not the hets, but pretty high. And 631 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: I tore my ankle. So it's like my age met recently. Yeah, 632 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: I just got out of a boot. Oh yeah, so 633 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: it's awesome. But I'm like that I need that fulfillment. 634 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: I need to compete. I was playing when I moved here, 635 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: like found a Rex softball league to play. I was 636 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: playing just trying to find that and I wanted if 637 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: you still tried to find yeah, maybe I should do that. 638 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: You shouldn't now, No. Yeah, I've been in a boot 639 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: and on a scooter for like four months. It sucks. 640 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I work out a lot, but especially 641 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 3: when I'm training to go on the road. I worked 642 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 3: out with the same guy for a long time. And 643 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 3: are you a yoga yoga guy? 644 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: No, you don't do yoga. 645 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: I've done hot yoga. 646 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I like it. 647 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: I love how you feel when you get out of there. 648 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: I feel so depleted. 649 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: I've done hot yoga too. I guess that's still yoga 650 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: to me. It's not yoga to you. That's insulting to 651 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: say yoga if you do hot. 652 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it's a form of yoga, right. 653 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: Isn't it the same? 654 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 3: Just it's just I don't think it's Maybe I'm wrong. 655 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not the yoga expert. 656 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 3: But I think when I I have a great group 657 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 3: of friends in Malibu where that's a more healthier of 658 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 3: a group than I have in my life in other places. 659 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: And I've done and I've done uh yoga with them, 660 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: and it's much it's harder to me than doing hot yoga. 661 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: How yoga? 662 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 3: I mean I'm sure there's a lot of poses and 663 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 3: stuff that that's. 664 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: That's part of yoga, but. 665 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: It didn't seem as difficult to me, and I maybe 666 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 3: completely wrong. Maybe it's because I'm just so hot in there. 667 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 3: I don't it doesn't seem so good. But yeah, I 668 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 3: in any way that I can get where you can sweat, 669 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: and I heat and ice all the time. 670 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: I do a sauna. 671 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: I do fifteen minutes in the sauna and I do 672 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: about I'm working my way back up to three minutes 673 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: in the ice, which is hard for me, but you know, 674 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 3: being I'm fifty seven now, So anything that you can 675 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 3: do to get toxins out of your body and help 676 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 3: your body heal, you know, especially from working out as 677 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 3: hard as I do, it's it's great. 678 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: And especially when you're on stage. 679 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: When I'm working out there, you know, I beat my 680 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: body up. 681 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: Do you ever get really gassed out there? 682 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, especially if it's if it's human, you know. 683 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 3: But that's one of the things that I One of 684 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 3: the reasons I train so hard is but is just 685 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 3: for my cardiovascular you know, to be in shape for 686 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 3: that because if you're out there, I can't help it. 687 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: I have video footage in my grandmother's kitchen of her 688 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 3: and my mom and my aunt Sharon and my aunt Missy, 689 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 3: all of them listening to music. And I'm Bobby. I'm 690 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 3: telling you, if you look at that video, I'm moving 691 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 3: the same way as a child as I do on 692 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 3: stage as an adult. It's the same move, the same stance, everything. 693 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 3: But I can't help it. 694 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: So when you have the. 695 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 3: Band that I have and the drummer that I have, 696 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 3: and the guitar players and all of it, I move, 697 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 3: and so I have to be That's the thing I 698 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 3: am in constant thought of thinking about. Okay, it's one 699 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 3: thing to train and be in shape and you know, 700 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: to get in what I call my show jeans, right, 701 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 3: But it's another thing to be up there in the 702 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 3: moment feeling all that energy and the rush of the 703 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 3: audience and the band and those two energies and synergies meeting, okay, 704 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 3: and you not feeling overwhelmed, and so you can sing 705 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 3: in the middle of it. And that's what I train 706 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: for is and that's something you can't simulate on a 707 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 3: treadmill or in the gym or anywhere. It's just got 708 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 3: to you gotta work your way through it. 709 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: Do you ever do the merch lottery with your guys? 710 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 2: Did merch lottery for a long time, can you? 711 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: We explained that, well, I. 712 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 2: Did merch lottery. 713 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's four or five years in a row, 714 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 3: and it was I started doing it the first year. 715 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 3: We were playing football stadiums across America, and I went, 716 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna like, these guys are out 717 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 3: here working really hard, and I've decided that I was 718 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 3: going to pick one stadium show on the tour and 719 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 3: whatever was made that night, we're going to do a 720 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 3: merch lottery. And we we When I played Sammy Hagar's 721 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 3: birthday party one year, he gave me this. 722 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: He met me and the band. 723 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 3: At the airport and gave us all sambreros and had 724 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 3: had trays of tequila shots. He met us at the airport, 725 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 3: you know, and he goes, happy birthday to me, and 726 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 3: so here we are in the We're going through customs 727 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 3: and doing tequila shots on sombreros. It's great, you know. 728 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 3: So I wouldn't take anything for that brero, you know, 729 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 3: I had it. I caught a blue marlin off the 730 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,959 Speaker 3: North Drop in the Virgin Islands, one year and and 731 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 3: had it, you know, took it to the taxidermist, and 732 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 3: so we still have it out on the road and 733 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 3: I have that sombrero Sammy gave me on top of 734 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 3: that blue Marlin. We've had a road case built built 735 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 3: for it and everything, and it's still out there. So 736 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 3: I decided we were going to It's almost like drawing 737 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 3: names for Christmas, you know, So we put everybody's name 738 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 3: on a piece of paper in that sombrero, and we 739 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 3: brought everybody together and I would go out there and 740 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 3: shake it all around and pull out a name, and 741 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 3: whoever's name I pulled, got all the merch for the 742 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 3: stadium that night, all the money, all the money, all 743 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 3: the all the merchandise. Would that which could be life 744 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 3: changing money. It's six figures really. 745 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 746 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 3: So what they ended up doing, though, is after a 747 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 3: couple of years, whoever got them most to say, you 748 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 3: got the money, you know, you're you're you're part of 749 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: the video crew. And I pulled out Bobby Bones's name right. Well, 750 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 3: what they started doing is just sharing it with everyone, 751 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 3: which was great. You know, they split it up amongst everyone. 752 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: So the first couple of years, though, someone would win, 753 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: like two, three hundred thousand dollars. 754 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 755 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 5: Wow, the Bobby cast will be right back. This is 756 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 5: the Bobby Cast. 757 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 2: What if? 758 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: Because that were my That makes me think of like 759 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: those lines at Starbucks where they keep passing it on. 760 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: What if somebody didn't share it? It's like two years 761 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: and then gym wins and he's like, screw this, I'm 762 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: keeping it. Yeah. Well, I mean that happened a couple times, 763 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: Like somebody that cuts off the Starbucks pass it online. 764 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, they didn't know they had to share it. 765 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: You know, that was part of the thing. 766 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 3: Oh, you know, somebody's life could you know, be changed whatever. 767 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: But then then they. 768 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 3: Decided, oh, well you know what, all of our lives 769 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 3: are going to change little bit. 770 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be crazy to win the merch lary. 771 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 2: I know. I yeah. 772 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 3: When I first did it, I was like, all my 773 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 3: buddies are going, you sure you want to do that? 774 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure. And then then we did it. 775 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, you put your own name in it. Yes, 776 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: you moved to town. How long until you actually have 777 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: but think about that, Think about moving the town and 778 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: not even not having anything to a point where oh 779 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: you're doing merch law. Ye, how long until you get 780 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: any sort of as an artist, any sort of traction. 781 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 2: Well, I when. 782 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 3: I got my my songwriting deal, first with a Coach Froze, 783 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 3: and then that was It was about a year and 784 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 3: a half later that I saw my first deal with Capricorn. 785 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: Records. 786 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 3: But that was that was a lot like playing you know, 787 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 3: Triple A baseball. I thought I was in the major leagues. 788 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 3: My family thought I was. 789 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: In a major record label. 790 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 3: You're saying, yeah, like yeah, being on that, you know, because. 791 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 2: I didn't know. 792 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 3: I was so green and oblivious. I thought that I 793 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 3: had a record deal, and I did, but it was 794 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 3: it was a it was getting to learn things, and 795 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for it. But I was not competing 796 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 3: I would I wasn't even on the same playing field 797 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 3: as the major labels, you know. But it gave me 798 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 3: an opportunity to go out on the road. I had 799 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 3: a band, I was growing an audience barely. I was 800 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 3: selling a little bit of merchandise, you know, I was. 801 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 3: I was learning and and it was not until after 802 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 3: the There's a guy named Joe Galante who was running 803 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 3: RCA in New York, and he signed Dave Matthews and 804 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 3: he signed a lot of people that we all know 805 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 3: and love. But he came back to Nashville to run 806 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 3: the Nashville division and I was one of the first 807 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 3: people that he signed. 808 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: How did you get out of the Capricorn deal? 809 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 2: That I went and asked off of it? 810 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 3: Because you knew there was I was, and I knew 811 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 3: we weren't going to and I learned, you know, very 812 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 3: quickly that I was on an independent if you will 813 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 3: record label. Now it was a very big label out 814 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 3: of making Georgia. I mean, they had a lot of 815 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 3: big acts on there, and I to this day, I 816 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 3: am very thankful for Phil Walden and everyone involved in that, 817 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 3: because you know, you get to a place in your 818 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 3: life and you know that every single part of it 819 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 3: is for a reason, and that is no different. 820 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 1: Do they keep a little percentage of the Kenney after 821 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 1: you left? 822 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 3: Well, it wouldn't. They didn't let me go for free. 823 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we had to, you know, to Phil's credit. 824 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 3: You know, I went in there and Phil knew what 825 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 3: I was coming to talk about, and he was nervously 826 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 3: moving some papers around and he goes, what's going on? 827 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 3: Can you tell me something good? And I said it 828 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 3: was in the fall. I said, well, Tennessee play Saturday. 829 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 3: That's good and and I said, Phil, you know we're 830 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 3: not competing, you know, I said, please let me off 831 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 3: the label, you know, so I can go and pursue 832 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 3: something else and I'll never forget it. He goes, Kenny, 833 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 3: I signed you because I believed in you, and I'm 834 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 3: letting you go because I believe in you. He goes, 835 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 3: Have the lawyers call me and we'll. 836 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 2: Work it out. I went, okay, great. 837 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 3: I didn't care what the details were. I was out 838 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 3: that door very quickly. But yeah, it wasn't for free, 839 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 3: but it changed my life. 840 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: When you started having hits, do you feel like those 841 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 1: hits are still in the same vein of the music 842 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 1: you make now? 843 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 4: Now? 844 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: The reason I asked, we're doing this documentary type series 845 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: on the nineties in general. Yeah, and I think we 846 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: talk about you a lot in ninety seven, and that 847 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: may be when you uch first number one. Yeah, but 848 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: it also that music, as awesome as it was, it 849 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like the same. 850 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 3: Kenny, Well, it's sonically much different. And I was making 851 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 3: music in the night. Look, I was just trying to 852 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 3: get on the radio. So I was trying to be 853 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 3: anything that was successful. I had no idea who I 854 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 3: was as an artist. I had no idea where this 855 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 3: was going to take me. I had no idea. I 856 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,720 Speaker 3: didn't I was so green. I was just making records 857 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 3: that I thought would get played. And some of those 858 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 3: records I'm proud of today. Some of them I'm not. 859 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 3: But when you do this a lot, you start to 860 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 3: grow as And I've co produced almost everything that I've 861 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 3: ever done. I did that with Barry Beckett, and me 862 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 3: and Buddy Cannon have made all the records since then. 863 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 3: But sonically it's a much different well, it's a much 864 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 3: different time in our genre in the music worldwide. But 865 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 3: if you listen to nineties country Kenny and then you 866 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 3: can see the progression sonically. And I think that the 867 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 3: song since got better. And I remember having a coming 868 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 3: to Jesus meeting with myself and I said, you have 869 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 3: to be better. You have to be better. The songs 870 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 3: have to be better, the production has to be better. 871 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 3: You as a human being, you have to be better. You. 872 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. 873 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 3: I was in my apartment complex out east of town 874 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 3: and it was one of those epiphany moments and I 875 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 3: had a list of things on a yellow note, on 876 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 3: a yellow legal pad, of things that I could change, 877 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 3: that would that needed to happen for me to go 878 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,479 Speaker 3: to the next step, and I started working on that list. 879 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: Did you ever feel like you wouldn't make it? Did 880 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: it ever get so bleased that you're going I think 881 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: this may not work out? Yes? 882 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 3: I mean, well even so, Okay, so after Capricorn, you know, 883 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 3: Joe signed me to a major label deal and it 884 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 3: wasn't working. 885 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 2: You know, we had a few hits. 886 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 3: I had a few songs and that that you know, 887 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 3: got into the top five, and and but look, Bobby, 888 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 3: I had What's crazy, What is really crazy about my 889 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 3: life and my career is I had an eighteen song 890 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 3: Greatest Hits album and nobody knew who I was. 891 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 1: So then why did you make the greatest hits if 892 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: they weren't that great? 893 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 3: Because we had the songs and it was honestly, it 894 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 3: was a marketing move by the label. Okay, now, okay, 895 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 3: none of these are really successful, so we're just going 896 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 3: to bunch them all together and make it successful. We 897 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 3: went double platinum on a bunch of songs that weren't 898 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 3: that successful. 899 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 2: So that's a true story. 900 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 3: And then that led me into the where that it 901 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 3: was during that period that I went, Okay, we have 902 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 3: to make this better. 903 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: So you had the Greatest Hits album that launched your career, 904 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: like we didn't super charge it. 905 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 3: I would say it was double platinum. We sold two million. 906 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 3: Greatest Hits were records, you know. And but that gave 907 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 3: me time. And there was about about a two year 908 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 3: period from when the Greatest Hits package came out to 909 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 3: whin the no Shoes, no Shirt, No Problems album came 910 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 3: out that completely changed my life. And because the music 911 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 3: had changed, I had changed mentally, I had changed physically. 912 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 3: I was in shape, I was my brain was on 913 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,399 Speaker 3: fire with creativity, and. 914 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 2: It just changed. 915 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna ask if you ever had a 916 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: tough love yourself. It sounds like you were doing that 917 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: to where they're probably decisions you have to make. If 918 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to be better, I have to stop. And 919 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 1: I don't know. It could have been drink. 920 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 2: I mean it was it was. 921 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 3: I changed my diet, I changed my I don't know, 922 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 3: I uh, I gave all of it. 923 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: Are there any songs that you recorded back then that 924 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: you don't like to play now there were number one. 925 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't. 926 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say don't like to play. You know, we 927 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 3: still do. Don't happen twice on the show, and for 928 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 3: whatever reason, it still fits in our show, we do 929 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 3: tractor every now and then. Just now, there's a moment 930 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 3: that I got really sick attractor, Like I just said, wow, 931 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 3: if I don't have to sing tractor anymore, it's not 932 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 3: going to hurt my feelings. But then Mega Maroney comes 933 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 3: out on the road with us, and she's out there 934 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 3: for a couple of weekends, and she goes, why are 935 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 3: you not antractor? 936 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 2: I want to hear tractor? 937 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 3: She was, everybody out there wants to hear a tractor. 938 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 3: I want to hear tractor. And I said, okay, well 939 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 3: you're about to come up and sing it with me, 940 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 3: and she goes, deal, and then I did it, and 941 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 3: she was right. 942 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: They go crazy, they go crazy. 943 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 3: It's just it's like, okay, me mentally, I'm passed it, 944 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 3: but it's it will forever be there, you know. And 945 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 3: that's when she and I became started to become really 946 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 3: good friends, you know. So but that's how I started, 947 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 3: That's how I started playing tractor again. It is because 948 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 3: Megan more or less forced it on me. 949 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: I think she for sure my favorite. I think she, 950 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: if not the best, is one of the best new 951 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: in this new version of greats. I think she's one 952 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: of the best songwriters that exists. 953 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 2: I think that she has a. 954 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 3: You know, I've had the luxury of being around her 955 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 3: now for a couple of years and getting to know her, 956 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 3: and she has a very unique work ethic. 957 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: She has. 958 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,919 Speaker 3: A very unique song since. She has an unbelievab personality, 959 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 3: she has an unbelievable sense of hearing. 960 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 1: She's so funny. I was about to say that she's 961 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: so funny. 962 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 3: And not everybody. I mean, you have to really get 963 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 3: to know her and peel the onion back to see 964 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 3: how thoughtful she is. I mean, she's just an amazing 965 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 3: human being. And but there's a work ethic in there 966 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 3: that early on that I recognized that makes sense, you know, 967 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 3: And that's how we became really good friends out there, 968 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 3: you know, And so over the over the course of 969 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four summer tour, Megan and I became 970 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,280 Speaker 3: became very close, you know, and I mean we're it's 971 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,280 Speaker 3: we played the Atlanta Falcons Football Stadium in twenty eighteen, 972 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 3: and she was a college kid up in the three 973 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 3: hundred section with her friends. 974 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 2: Now, think about how powerful the universe is. 975 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 3: And if you would have told me on stage that 976 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 3: night that you're you're going to become really great friends 977 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 3: with a person up there, you know, I told you 978 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 3: you're crazy, But that that happened, you know, And to 979 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 3: see what's happened to her, and to see her take 980 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 3: it and run with it, and to see how speaking 981 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,320 Speaker 3: I told you earlier that my brain was on fire, 982 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 3: I recognized that because her brain is completely on fire 983 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 3: with creating music and giving her audience positive energy and love. 984 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 3: And it's it's been really interesting to see what happened 985 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 3: to us. It's it's happening to one of your friends, 986 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 3: and I get to watch it, you know, from the 987 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 3: side of the stage. 988 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 1: Just let that though, when you who were you in 989 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: the crowd for that was that? Well, later on you're 990 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: the kid and I got to know, yeah, And but 991 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: you were watching them at a show and again, same 992 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: thing happens. It's like, holy crap, I'm on stage with whomever, 993 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,280 Speaker 1: or I'm friends with whomever. 994 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 2: Well, when I was in. 995 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 3: When I was in high school and I went to 996 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 3: see Jackson Brown by myself because I was I loved 997 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 3: that music and I was beginning to think about, you know, 998 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 3: how much I love songs and whatever. And I went 999 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 3: to see Jackson Brown, never knowing that I would meet 1000 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 3: him ever. Right, I went to see George Straight, never 1001 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 3: knowing that I would ever be on the road with 1002 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 3: George Straight ever, and I was. I That's how I 1003 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 3: got introduced to the world of doing stadiums. I was 1004 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 3: out there two summers in a row with George and 1005 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 3: it changed my life. But I now, of course, you 1006 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 3: never can think that, you know, But I think it's 1007 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 3: very interesting. I think people are pushed into our lives 1008 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 3: for reason in and out, you know, and it's it's 1009 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 3: I think, you know, it's just the universe works in 1010 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 3: crazy ways, and to see that what's happening to Megan 1011 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 3: is is beautiful. But also, I mean, the one that 1012 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 3: really comes to mind is when I first moved to Nashville, 1013 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 3: I had zero money. I was living with a friend 1014 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 3: that I was in a bluegrass band with in college 1015 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 3: off of Belmont, Okay. She let me stay in her 1016 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 3: house because I had nothing. It was right before I 1017 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 3: signed with a coach Fro's Music, and a lot of 1018 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 3: my friends were going to go see Jimmy Buffett at 1019 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 3: which is no longer there at a place called Starwood Amphitheater, 1020 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 3: and I went to see Jimmy. It was pouring rain 1021 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 3: that night. We went in a party bus and I 1022 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 3: went home that night and I was lying in bed 1023 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 3: and I was staring at the ceiling, going what did 1024 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 3: I just see. I'd been to a lot of concerts, 1025 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 3: but I never saw somebody love their audience quite like that. 1026 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 3: And it made an impression. Right now you fast forward. 1027 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,800 Speaker 3: That was in nineteen ninety That was in the summer 1028 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 3: of ninety one. Now you fast forward twelve years. Right, 1029 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 3: whatever it was when I first met Jimmy Buffett, I went. 1030 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 3: I was with my friend Holly Gleeson and she had 1031 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 3: a friend in Palm Beach that knew Jimmy and we 1032 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 3: were playing in Vegas at the same time. Jimmy was 1033 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 3: playing across the street at the end GM and I 1034 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 3: was playing. This was right when my life changed. And 1035 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 3: I was playing the the UH the arena at Mandalay Bay, 1036 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 3: and we walked over UH and there was Jimmy and 1037 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 3: some of his you know, road family with him at 1038 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 3: the pool at the Four Seasons in one of those cabanas, 1039 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 3: and I walked up and I went, there's the guy 1040 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,240 Speaker 3: that I saw play in the pouring rain in Nashville, 1041 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 3: you know, and never knowing that I would become friends 1042 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 3: with him and collaborate with him and be in the 1043 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,879 Speaker 3: studio with him and become friends with him and get 1044 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 3: to know him on any level. So that was That's 1045 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,359 Speaker 3: kind of a my. 1046 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 2: Version of me and Meghan, if. 1047 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 4: You will, let's take a quick pause for a message 1048 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:56,400 Speaker 4: from our sponsor, and we're back on the Bobby Cast. 1049 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 1: Do you ever just go to Sonic or Chick fil 1050 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 1: A and order something and they look at you like, 1051 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: there's no way Kenny Chesney's ordering Sonic or Chick fil 1052 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 1: A by himself. 1053 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's been a minute since I went 1054 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 3: to Sonic or Chick fil A. But I do love 1055 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 3: when I was eating Chick fil A. 1056 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 2: I love the sweet tea. I did love that when 1057 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 2: I was drinking that stuff. 1058 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 1: But cheesecake fact anywhere anywhere, anywhere, not specific, but just 1059 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, I mean, like, why is Kenny Chesney 1060 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: at a gas station in Tupelo Mississippi. It just random. 1061 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,240 Speaker 1: Do you ever just do that? You ever buy yourself 1062 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: in normal places? 1063 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I go to normal places. I mean 1064 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,399 Speaker 3: I can walk between the rain drops pretty well. No way, 1065 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 3: grocery store kind of well, it's been a minute since 1066 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 3: I've been to a grocery store, but I go early. 1067 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 2: If I go to the grocery, where do you go? 1068 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,319 Speaker 1: That's so normal that we'd be like, there's no way 1069 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:43,399 Speaker 1: Kenny Chesney goes there. 1070 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 2: Oh well, I don't know. 1071 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,240 Speaker 3: But I mean I've been I've been at gas stations 1072 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 3: or whatever, or you know, I would be at a 1073 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 3: at a. 1074 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 2: Restaurant, you know, whatever it is. 1075 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 3: And I remember this guy recently and he's, you know, 1076 00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 3: him and his wife are staring at me. I got 1077 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 3: raid are pretty good, you know, and I could just 1078 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 3: tell okay, well you know there, or if my phone's 1079 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 3: up at the attention ever was when they could do 1080 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 3: it backwards, make an act clock and you know whatever, 1081 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 3: but he could. 1082 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,439 Speaker 2: He finally comes up to me and he goes, you're him, 1083 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 2: aren't you? 1084 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 1: I said, what. 1085 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 2: Depends on who you're talking about, you know, but you 1086 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 2: know what usually I mean, look, yeah, when. 1087 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: What about traffic? If someone looks over. You ever see 1088 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: people look over and try all the time and they're like, 1089 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 1: it's all Jesny and traffic. 1090 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 3: But when people come up to me, and I mean 1091 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 3: nine times out of ten, it's pretty positive. You know, 1092 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 3: I haven't drank in a while. So when especially if 1093 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 3: I went on Island or down South and they you know, 1094 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 3: back when I was really partying a lot and people 1095 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 3: would want to picture and I would say no, I mean, 1096 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,320 Speaker 3: I can't see your camera. 1097 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 2: You know, I'd rather not take a picture. 1098 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:04,360 Speaker 3: But but now, I mean, there's worse things that people 1099 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,839 Speaker 3: could say to you than I love your music. And man, 1100 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 3: that's what happens. We just wanted to tell you that 1101 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 3: we love your music, and there's a lot worse things 1102 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 3: people could say to you. 1103 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 2: That means a lot. 1104 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 1: I only got a few more minutes with you. But 1105 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: people bring their best, their favorite or one of the 1106 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 1: records that influenced them the most. And we talked about 1107 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,359 Speaker 1: Jimmy Buffett. Is that a Jimmy Buffer record over there? 1108 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 1: That's it? Would you mind holding that out by telling 1109 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: us why you picked this record? 1110 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 3: Well? 1111 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 2: I picked this record, and it's interesting. 1112 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 3: We talk about the greatest hits or a compilation, because 1113 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 3: I believe this is a compilation, you know, what is 1114 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 3: it which records the songs you know about heart And 1115 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,359 Speaker 3: this was one of the records that captured my imagination. 1116 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 3: I say this a lot about my friend Jimmy Buffett. 1117 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 3: He was one of the first people that taught me 1118 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 3: it was possible to paint pictures with words, and it 1119 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 3: took my brain somewhere else, a kid from East Tennessee 1120 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 3: that didn't know that it was possible to sit on 1121 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 3: that boat somewhere that boat. It just it was. This 1122 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 3: music really meant a lot to me. And this album, 1123 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 3: you know, because I you know, the first time I 1124 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 3: heard Pirate looks At forty, which is still one of 1125 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,800 Speaker 3: my favorite songs ever, I played Pirate looks At forty 1126 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 3: because just the story of it, you know, It's just 1127 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 3: I played that song on a stool with a tip 1128 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 3: jar and a lot of different places, and I don't know, 1129 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 3: I just I truly loved the storytelling. I love the 1130 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 3: simplicity of it. I love how it took if it 1131 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 3: can take a kid's imagination from East Tennessee anywhere, you know, 1132 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 3: this was one of the albums that I feel like 1133 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 3: that that you know, built Jimmy's life, you know, and 1134 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 3: it sure made me curious about what was out there. 1135 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,919 Speaker 1: Do you think about mortality ever? 1136 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 2: Well, I mean not recently. 1137 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,839 Speaker 1: I mean I mean no, when I heard Pirate looks 1138 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: at forty, well no, that's a yeah, that's what I think. 1139 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, not really. 1140 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 2: Okay, I wow, I'm mam now I will tonight, fair enough? 1141 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,320 Speaker 1: What do you want to be remembered for? 1142 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:24,360 Speaker 3: Then? Oh? Wow? Yeah? I mean I guess legacy is 1143 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 3: only what people think about you, right, I don't know, 1144 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 3: do you care? 1145 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: Do you even care? 1146 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 2: I think everybody cares. 1147 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't care that much. But I don't have kids yet. 1148 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 2: I don't have kids either, so I think it's still 1149 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 2: like I don't know. I think somebody that that. 1150 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 3: Loves spreading positive energy and love to their audience, that 1151 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 3: loves songs and songwriters that you know, love the ocean, 1152 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,839 Speaker 3: love protecting it, loved, so that's. 1153 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 1: Become important to you, protecting the ocean, sure, environment? 1154 00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1155 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, I don't know. 1156 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 3: Like people people have asked me about legacy, you know, 1157 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 3: and I think that it would be important for people 1158 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 3: to know that. I because somebody asked me in an 1159 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 3: interview once they said, we think it's great that you 1160 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 3: give so much of yourself to what you do, and 1161 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 3: I stop them. I said, no, no, no, I give 1162 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 3: all of it. So I think that that would be 1163 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,360 Speaker 3: a part of it. You know that I truly have 1164 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,279 Speaker 3: given almost all of myself to do what I do. 1165 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 3: But I but it never wants I swear to God. 1166 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 3: It's never once seemed like sacrifice. I truly loved and 1167 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 3: love what I do. I love creating. I love the 1168 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 3: look on people's faces when I'm up there and I 1169 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 3: know I just played their favorite song. 1170 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 1: I know it is unless this tractor and you tractor 1171 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 1: and whatever. All right, three final questions. Okay, growing up 1172 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: without a lot, Now you've done quite well for yourself. 1173 00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,800 Speaker 1: What's the coolest part about being rich that you didn't know? 1174 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:01,959 Speaker 2: That you can help other people? 1175 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 3: That? 1176 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:06,800 Speaker 1: I mean, such a good answer. 1177 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 2: I mean, you can help other people. 1178 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 1: I wanted you say an airplane. 1179 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 3: Well, that's that's a perk. That's that's that's you can 1180 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,479 Speaker 3: help other people with that perk. 1181 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:16,320 Speaker 1: Okay, got it? 1182 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 2: Which we did. 1183 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, after. 1184 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 2: We saved a lot of animals. 1185 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 3: Like being able to help you know, I, I uh, 1186 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 3: that's the that's the best thing about being blessed, you know, 1187 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 3: with with what's happened to me is being able to 1188 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 3: help people that need help. 1189 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,360 Speaker 1: Final question two of three. Of all of your songs, 1190 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 1: which song ended up being a monster that maybe you 1191 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 1: didn't quite think it would be? And I'm sure you 1192 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 1: have confidence in all of that. 1193 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but one that surprised me was Save It for 1194 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 3: a Rainy Day? And I don't know that it was 1195 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 3: the biggest hit, but I didn't. I mean, it was 1196 00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 3: it was on brand. I knew when I heard it 1197 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 3: that it was on brand, if you will, and that 1198 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 3: it might be fun live. But when we kick into 1199 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 3: that today, I went, oh wow, I mean that was 1200 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 3: a real hit. 1201 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 2: There's that one. 1202 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,279 Speaker 3: What I mean the first time I heard when the 1203 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 3: Son goes down and went, oh, yeah, that's going to work. 1204 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 3: I don't know that it's going to be an eight 1205 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 3: week number one, which it was, but I didn't know 1206 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 3: it was going to be that. That surprised me, but 1207 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 3: I knew it was going to be, you know, good 1208 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 3: for us. You went tequila. I didn't know what it 1209 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 3: was going to do. But that song didn't even go 1210 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 3: number one. I had more number two records than probably 1211 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 3: any act in the world. I mean, I've had like 1212 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 3: fourteen or fifteen songs that didn't hit number one that 1213 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 3: was number two, like no Shoes, no Shirt, no problems, 1214 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 3: went to number two that. 1215 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 1: Wasn't a number one Nope, and. 1216 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 3: It got stuck behind my friend Jimmy Buffett and Alan 1217 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 3: Jackson's five o'clock somewhere for eight straight weeks. 1218 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 1: Wow, that's just bad time. The same label pissed me off. 1219 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 1: Oh ok, because they didn't make the call to go 1220 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 1: pull that one back. 1221 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 2: Let's do a little bit. But that record was so 1222 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 2: hot they couldn't maneuver it. 1223 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 1224 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 1: You in Tequila is a top five all time song 1225 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 1: for me. 1226 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 2: Thank Yeah. 1227 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 1: It's not a top five Kenny song, like a top 1228 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: five all times oh thank you. 1229 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 2: I mean that song was. 1230 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,919 Speaker 3: You know, I had that song recorded, but I didn't 1231 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 3: know who I wanted to sing on it, and I 1232 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 3: didn't want someone expected within the format. Was nothing wrong 1233 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 3: with that, I mean, that happens all the time, but 1234 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 3: I felt like that song was so special and little 1235 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 3: left the center for me. You know, I felt like 1236 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 3: that You in Tequila you could be in an uber 1237 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 3: or a taxi or your own car. Somewhere in Italy 1238 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 3: or wherever in the world, and that song come on 1239 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 3: and it fit, and so it needed the voice, the 1240 00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 3: perfect female voice to be that the ying andy of it, 1241 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 3: you know. And when I heard Grace Potter, I went, oh, 1242 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 3: my god, that's the voice. I never met her, and 1243 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,439 Speaker 3: I sent her You in Tequila, And less than three 1244 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 3: days later after I sent it to her, she was 1245 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 3: in Nashville on my birthday, marsh the twenty six and 1246 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 3: we were in the studio recording doing our vocals on 1247 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 3: You and Tequila. 1248 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 1: When you recorded it, do you think you'd be a single? 1249 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 2: Didn't know if it was going to be a single. No, 1250 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 2: I had no idea. 1251 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 3: It was part of the Hemingways Whiskey album and we 1252 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 3: had no idea what was going to be the first 1253 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 3: single ended up being Boys of Fall was the first 1254 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 3: single off that because we released it in late summer. 1255 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 3: But You in Tequila as one of my top five 1256 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 3: songs of mine. 1257 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 1: Oh that's what I'll do. The final question, then do 1258 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 1: your top five songs of you? You do your top 1259 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 1: five five to one or one to five. It's probably 1260 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 1: easier to go one to five, right, but it changes. 1261 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it's like it like you could ask me tomorrow, but. 1262 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 1: You can't, Okay, but I'm asking you today and you 1263 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 1: open that up because to day I want one through 1264 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 1: five Kenny Chesney doing Kenny Chesney songs. 1265 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 2: Number one, number one. Probably it would be. 1266 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 3: Old Blue Chair, just because it's such it's such a 1267 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 3: portrait of my soul. 1268 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: It's it was. 1269 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,920 Speaker 3: It stamped a time of my life where I was 1270 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 3: in the Virgin Islands and man, I remember I was out. 1271 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 2: This was remember, and I started writing this song at. 1272 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 3: The writing New Year's Day, well, New Year's Eve, whatever 1273 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 3: it was. It was in nineteen ninety nine. There was 1274 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 3: this this person I forgot the name, that the name 1275 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,919 Speaker 3: god that did this. But he predicted that the world 1276 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 3: was going to end at the at Front at the 1277 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 3: year two thousand. 1278 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 2: So everybody was just kind. 1279 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Of like Y two K was also going to kill everybody. Yeah, 1280 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 1: like not, what what's that was? 1281 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:48,960 Speaker 2: Yes? 1282 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:50,280 Speaker 1: Oh, I thought it was like somebody you knew. 1283 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 2: No, I didn't know. 1284 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 1: It was like freds of years after my uncle. Oh yeah, 1285 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 1: that was like I thought it was like Cress at 1286 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 1: the Credit Union. Again, I didn't know. 1287 01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah it was not Michael, but yeah, gotta gotta got it. 1288 01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:04,919 Speaker 3: But so everybody, the whole country was, the whole world 1289 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 3: was kind of okay, well this is gonna be weird. 1290 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 2: And I thought, well, that's gonna happen. I want to 1291 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 2: have fun, you know. 1292 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 3: So I was. I was down in the Virgin Islands 1293 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,440 Speaker 3: and I was, I was, you know, having a blast. 1294 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:17,080 Speaker 3: And the place that I rented had two blue wicker 1295 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 3: rocking chairs, and I stayed there for like three or 1296 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 3: four years. And I remember I came in from town 1297 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,320 Speaker 3: and I had I had a cup that tall full 1298 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 3: about you know, coconut rum and diet coke, and I 1299 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 3: went out there and sat in that chair and I 1300 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 3: was looking up at it was beautiful, and I was, 1301 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,080 Speaker 3: you know, rock up right on the beach, and I 1302 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 3: was looking up at the sky and there was a 1303 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 3: million stars in the sky. And I had to drink 1304 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 3: betray my legs and I fell asleep and I woke 1305 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 3: up the next morning with the sun coming right over 1306 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,280 Speaker 3: the hill, and I was covered in mosquito bites. And 1307 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 3: that day I started writing down the lyrics Stow Blue 1308 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 3: Chair and finished it several months later. 1309 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 2: But that'd be I mean, as a songwriter, that would. 1310 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 1: Be number one number two. 1311 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,680 Speaker 3: Number two would as a songwriter slash artist would be 1312 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 3: I go back. Uh. Number three would probably probably be 1313 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 3: there goes my life. Number four would probably be. 1314 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 2: Anything but mine. 1315 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 3: And then I don't know, there's like young summertime. 1316 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 1: When you said you went Tequila's top five. I met 1317 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 1: te keilast to be five. But if I had it 1318 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,919 Speaker 1: could do another five. It would be young, it would 1319 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 1: be summertime. It wouldn't be saving for any day. It 1320 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 1: would be I don't know. Uh uh, you know, the 1321 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 1: duet with Pink was a lot of fun. I'm not 1322 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 1: forcing to do a top other five. 1323 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, some alternates we could put that in there. 1324 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I really enjoyed this. We were talking about before 1325 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 1: you got here, this fear too. So those after you 1326 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 1: do it the first time, I guess people have seen it, 1327 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 1: they want to come back. Do you do you feel 1328 01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 1: like you need a promo as much now? Do you 1329 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,720 Speaker 1: just feel like it's gonna sell like crazy because the 1330 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 1: proof of concepts already there? 1331 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,919 Speaker 3: Well, I mean you got a promo promo for sure, 1332 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,560 Speaker 3: but it's just such a unique experience. 1333 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm coming to this one. I'm coming to this one. 1334 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, please come. 1335 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 1: I just saw so many of my friends going like 1336 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 1: they were like, we're with like coaches that I know, 1337 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 1: Like I saw like Dan maull and I got the 1338 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 1: all these guys that are like. 1339 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,959 Speaker 2: My Dan mull and I believe was at every show 1340 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 2: he let us. 1341 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 1: By the way, Dan mullin for those who don't know 1342 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 1: right now, he's the UNLV head coach, but he was 1343 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 1: at Florida, he was a television. 1344 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 3: A Mississippi State, and he was you know a lot 1345 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 3: of places, and he got a he got the gig 1346 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,040 Speaker 3: at UNLV, so uh he let he let me and 1347 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 3: Bailey come. 1348 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:39,439 Speaker 2: Work out that we were. 1349 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,440 Speaker 3: I worked out at UNLV's football facility every single day 1350 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 3: for a month and a half that I was in Vegas. 1351 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 3: So I would go into that backstage area, you know, 1352 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 3: I had a little area we called the sock Monkey Lounge, 1353 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 3: and I'd go in there and say how to people, 1354 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 3: you know, and nine times out of ten I'd see 1355 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 3: Dan there, you know, Like. 1356 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,440 Speaker 1: That was the trade off. That's awesome. 1357 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:01,720 Speaker 3: I love it. 1358 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. I've often said many times because 1359 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm from Arkansas, we didn't have beaches, ye, so to me, 1360 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm not drawn to beach. I love Emo Kenny. 1361 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1362 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 1: Beach Kenny's got some bangers, yeah, but I love Emo Kenny. 1363 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,400 Speaker 3: Yes. That's what's interesting though, is like it's not necessarily 1364 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,320 Speaker 3: a beach thing. It's more of an island culture. 1365 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't have that culture either, and so I 1366 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 1: get annoyed they don't bring food quicker. 1367 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,120 Speaker 3: So there's the Emo in that too, though. I mean 1368 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,560 Speaker 3: there's a lot of singer songwriter in me that came 1369 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 3: from that. 1370 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's a huge influence. I spent five. 1371 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 3: Years like well, I would get off the road and 1372 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 3: there was there was a huge part of about five 1373 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 3: or six year period of my life where I truly 1374 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:39,800 Speaker 3: I would pack to go home. 1375 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 2: I was gone so much. 1376 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 3: So what that means is I would get off the 1377 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 3: bus and I wouldn't come to Nashville. I would go 1378 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 3: to my boat in the Virgin Islands, and so I 1379 01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 3: over a period of about five years, I wrote a 1380 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 3: lot of different songs that didn't necessarily fit on your 1381 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 3: you know anywhere else in your life that you're building, 1382 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 3: which which ended up being some of my favorite records. 1383 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 1: You ever get stung by starfish or a jellyfish? I 1384 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 1: guess starfish don't sting. Yes, jellyfish douce I got stung, yeah, 1385 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 1: a couple of times. Shark encounter with a shark. No. 1386 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,800 Speaker 3: I went diving a lot with my friend Bob Schenners 1387 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 3: into Virgin Islands and I saw a bunch of sharks. 1388 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 1: No risk, no death. No. 1389 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 3: I mean like if they when they know you're not food, 1390 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,960 Speaker 3: you know you're pretty safe, all right, That's what happens though, 1391 01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,080 Speaker 3: Like if they think you're food and they don't, you know. Yeah. 1392 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 1: So I really appreciate you coming by, really because this 1393 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 1: is our first man first, I'm gonna be the first one, 1394 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 1: number one. You know, we've we've we have some others 1395 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,560 Speaker 1: in the can. We got to go a one with Kenny. 1396 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,160 Speaker 3: I'm really appreciative, first round draft shake you man, and 1397 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,439 Speaker 3: for everything, and it's it's good to be your. 1398 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate it. There is Kenny Chesney thinks come 1399 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 1: to fear Bobby. Yeah, I said I would last time. 1400 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 1: This time though I'm only partially lying. All right, there 1401 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 1: is the great Kenny Chesney. Thanks for listening to a 1402 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,200 Speaker 1: Bobby Cast production