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Speaker 1: This. He's Talking Cowboys screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola,

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Speaker 1: Brian Brothers, Rob Phillips, and Taylor Stern. Hey, everybody, welcome

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Speaker 1: to Talking Cowboys outside today. Everybody's clapping right, let's go

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Speaker 1: at the grand opening of the entertainment. How we got

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Speaker 1: these people led up here at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips here on stage right outside Ford Center at

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Speaker 1: the Star, joined as always by Mickey Spagnola, Brian broad Us,

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Speaker 1: and a special alumnus of Talking cow Boys, Nate Newton.

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Speaker 1: Getting everybody fired up out. I'm excited, man, welcome back. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: right as you one here the last time I left

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Speaker 1: for good to see you too. Yeah, I appreciate that, Nate.

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Speaker 1: Always good to be around you. I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of good football knowledge in that big brain of years

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Speaker 1: and always be a big hit. Is always good to

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Speaker 1: be outside to this kind of training camp. Vibe to

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Speaker 1: it right solutely. Yeah. We're on Cowboys Way. We're right

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Speaker 1: across the street from City Works and Kane Rosso, So

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Speaker 1: come on out and join us. We're gonna be here

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Speaker 1: for an hour and after that, we got more show

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Speaker 1: We got draft shows right yeah, yeah, We've got several

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Speaker 1: more shows left in the day. And hey, this is

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Speaker 1: a three day deal out here. Yeah. Brand opening ceremony,

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Speaker 1: Nate live entertainment, special appearances, dining in, shopping specials, notable

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Speaker 1: prizes for the public. Oh you wrote that down so

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't miss a bee. I'm prepared, man, you know that,

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Speaker 1: and including Easter Sunday. Wow, So will we be back tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: Are you guys to be back tomorrow? Now? This is us.

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Speaker 1: We're just doing a day of shows today. Fly. Everybody

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Speaker 1: better pay attention. This is one time, only one shot

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Speaker 1: right here, So just down the way here, Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: just had a special ribbon cutting ceremony to kick this off.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Star has been around for a couple

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Speaker 1: of years now, but now all of the entertainment district

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Speaker 1: as well, so kicking things off, We're here to provide

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Speaker 1: a little extra entertainment for you and talk a little cowboys.

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Speaker 1: We're here for the next hour. And man, it's been

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Speaker 1: a while or a lot has happened in the last week.

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Speaker 1: It seems like it's been forever since we've gotten together

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Speaker 1: and talked. It has been together. Free agency talk. We

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Speaker 1: can get into that. We can get into some draft

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Speaker 1: talk because we do have Bryan broad Us here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's start with free agency and what the Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: done really in the last five six days. Added six

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Speaker 1: new players on this roster, said goodbye to a couple

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Speaker 1: of guys, not Dez Bryant. He is still on the roster.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Wow, shots, how you take shot shots?

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of speculations. The question hasn't gone away. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it will not go away until something is resolved one

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Speaker 1: way or another. The Cowboys are expected to meet with

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Speaker 1: him at some point. We'll see. But let's talk about

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Speaker 1: what they've done in free agency. Guys, thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: five signings they've had that they've also traded for a

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Speaker 1: The Marcus Martin Cameron Fleming, what do you think about him?

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Speaker 1: adjusting from week to week. That's what the New England

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Speaker 1: Patriots does. Well, that's what I hope the Cowboys. My

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Speaker 1: game is not about free agency, fellas. My thing is

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Speaker 1: hi to Hell. Hey, what's about Hell? What's going on? Yeah? Hey?

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Speaker 1: By the way, we do have a live mic out here, right, yeah? Yea.

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Speaker 1: If anybody's got any questions, I'm coming to you ready,

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Speaker 1: I'm going fellas, Hey, I'm worried about the coaches, not

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Speaker 1: The Browns were a team that didn't have they had

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Speaker 1: corner or safety. It looks like Nate is shagged question

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Speaker 1: I got Trevor from Saginaw Man. All right. He has

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Speaker 1: the question, um, so if Darwin James is gone, if

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little change of face here. We

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Speaker 1: know you're tired of hearing questions about the Dak situation,

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Speaker 1: but I have a question and maybe a suggestion. So obviously,

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Speaker 1: where they renegotiate a performance based or incentive based contract

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Speaker 1: these guys at the Ritz. I worked at the Ritz.

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Speaker 1: I didn't exactly have a room there, Okay I didn't.

426
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 1: I didn't spring for the for the fee, but it

427
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: was a great time. Learned some good stuff. I kind

428
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Speaker 1: of wish I could switch places with Brian because he

429
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: was down in my home away from home college station.

430
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Speaker 1: And then I stepped up to that place in Austin

431
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Speaker 1: too where they played football too and went to some

432
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Speaker 1: pro days. So what are your thoughts on what you

433
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Speaker 1: saw out there? Christian kirk Malik Jefferson, Yeah, those guys, yeah,

434
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though, and both both schools were

435
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: more than kind to us going through there. We were

436
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 1: actually working on a little bit of a documentary, a

437
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 1: mini document if you want to say, kind of a

438
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: day in the life of a scout, and so we

439
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: were following Walter Julife, longtime national scout here with the Cowboys,

440
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: and then Sam Garza who's got that area, and they were,

441
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, Will McClay and Stephen Jones were kind enough

442
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: to let us talk to them and shadow them a

443
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: little bit and do some things. So it was really

444
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: cool that way. But from what I saw though, a

445
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: lot of defensive players at the University of Texas that potentials.

446
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 1: You know you talked about Jefferson, Elliott, the safety is

447
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: a possibility there. Poonafford, I think was the one, and

448
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: Mickey got a little dose of poona Afford this morning,

449
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,959
Speaker 1: a big dose when we were doing the Blitz. When

450
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 1: we're filming the Blitz, So yeah, it's if you're if

451
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 1: you know, most of those guys are probably second day

452
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: type of players. The one first round guy they have

453
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Speaker 1: is Connor Williams, the big tackle and you know from

454
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: Coppell right from Kapell, a local kid, and the New

455
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints worked him out. And you know, the Saints

456
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: lost their starting right tackle to retirement this year, so

457
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: maybe they're thinking of hitting it again this year like

458
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: they did last with Ramchek, who played very well for them.

459
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, the the it was really impressive to be

460
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Speaker 1: a part of that. Christian Kirk, Yeah, I learned about

461
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk that he was going to get a workout

462
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: from the Cowboys from Kyle Valaro was going to go

463
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: to College Station yesterday and after we went through the

464
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: day before, he was going to go through and put

465
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Speaker 1: him through a little bit more extensive workout. People are

466
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Speaker 1: looking at him as more of an potentially a slot player,

467
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: but you got to determine if he could play on

468
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Speaker 1: the outside. I think that's what Kyle Valaro is gonna do.

469
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 1: Go down there jam him up a little bit, try

470
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Speaker 1: and make him run some routes where he has to

471
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Speaker 1: fight through suppress. He's a little bit shorter guy. I

472
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Speaker 1: like to describe him in the body type of what

473
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Speaker 1: Steve Smith looks like. You have' you ever seen Steve

474
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Speaker 1: Smith kind of the rocked up compact compact but but

475
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: but it's got really good quickness, catches the at ball well,

476
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Speaker 1: and there's explosive. He's also a punt returner. Do we

477
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Speaker 1: need any it help because it looks like lunch is over.

478
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Speaker 1: I think we're good. We're good good by the way.

479
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Speaker 1: So my question is do you think do you think

480
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Speaker 1: he can play outside? You know, I tell you what, though,

481
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: I have my doubts about that. Okay, I really really do.

482
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have to be. People are gonna

483
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: try and put him outside. And Steve Smith was just

484
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: rare the way that he was able to get outside

485
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: like that. I just don't see when you watch him play.

486
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: He's got a slot body, but he doesn't have slot

487
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Speaker 1: quickness like when you watch Cole Beasley play. You know,

488
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: Beasley's that able to get in and out of routes.

489
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Speaker 1: The quickness and the Kirk it's hard for him to

490
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Speaker 1: get started. But once he gets going, then you then

491
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Speaker 1: you've got that ability or he's got that ability to

492
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Speaker 1: make So I think it's gonna be difficult for him.

493
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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have to find ways to do

494
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Speaker 1: his damage inside. And you know, I don't know if

495
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Speaker 1: somebody would take that in the first round. You watched him. Yeah,

496
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Speaker 1: can he play outside because he's got what they call

497
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: long speed, right. Yeah, Like Bryan said, once he gets going,

498
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't discount him being able to do anything in

499
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Speaker 1: this league. In addition to kick return, he did that,

500
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: did that very well. He's just an impressive guy. And

501
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: he's a different type of receiver than Larry Fitzgerald. I

502
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: not I'm not making a direct comparison, but they talked

503
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Speaker 1: about Fitzgerald coming out of college. He didn't have elite

504
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: speed and all that kind of stuff, but he just

505
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: knew how to get open, he knew how to he

506
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: knew how to make plays. And I think Kirk's gonna

507
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Speaker 1: have a ten year career in this league and be

508
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: and help a team. There's been a lot of games. Absolutely, Yeah,

509
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Speaker 1: we'll see where he goes. By the way, Jason Garrett

510
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: was in Cowboys staff at SMU today. Cortland's Sutton, another

511
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Yeah, they're taking a look at and Jason

512
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: Garrett at Alabama's second pro day yesterday. So it's that

513
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: time of year where they're taking a look. And that's

514
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: not unlike Ohio State a couple of years ago, where look,

515
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: Bama's got twenty prospects every year, So you might as

516
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: well just take a look at everybody while you're down there. Yeah,

517
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: and that's probably what they did. That's exactly what they

518
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: look at. Xanne Medina, team player, passing out water. She's

519
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: the best. All right, let's go back to Nate. We

520
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: have we have kindred from McKinney. All right, that's tired

521
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: to say. And he has a question about our head coach.

522
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Speaker 1: If Jason gard wins ten games or less, does he

523
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Speaker 1: come back next year? Is it a playoff season? Playoffs?

524
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Speaker 1: He gets in the playoffs. Oh, he's good, he's good.

525
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: He's good in the playoffs. I think you are unanimous there,

526
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: I think so, Yeah, I agree to didn't make the playoffs.

527
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: He didn't make the playoffs then, and we may then

528
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 1: when we might be talking about somebody else. But you know,

529
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: that's the whole thing. I think Jason understand He comes

530
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: from a family where his dad was a coach. His

531
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: dad had been on STAPs where they got let go.

532
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: You know, this is I believe his eighth season is

533
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Cowboys. As the head coach,

534
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: so yeah, he understands the nature of the beast. There's

535
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: a lot of expectations with the fans, there's a lot

536
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: of expectations in that building across from us over here

537
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: with the owner and his family as well. So yeah,

538
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: I think that he needs to find a way to

539
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: win games and getting the playoffs and hopefully win some

540
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: playoff games. If not, then really all bets are off. So, Rob,

541
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: did you like the way Jerry answered the question? I

542
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: guess it was yesterday on the gap between the Cowboys

543
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. I understood where he was going and I

544
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: thought it made a lot of sense. Do you want

545
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: to repeat what he's said? Well, he said, if you're

546
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: talking about the gap, if you're talking that they won

547
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl Philly did and the Cowboys didn't even

548
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, then that looks like a significant gap. Yeah,

549
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: but they don't think it's that wide of a gap.

550
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: I think they feel like they missed an opportunity to

551
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. They didn't handle some of the injuries

552
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: they had and absences they had talking about Zeke's mansion

553
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: as well as the Eagles handled their losses. There's no

554
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: question about it. But I think when you're talking about

555
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: the job Jason Garrett has done, let's not forget that

556
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: two years ago this team won thirteen games with their

557
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: quote unquote third string quarterback to start training camp, so

558
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: they have him frustrated in ability to adjust and coach

559
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: up and have next man up. Didn't do as well

560
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: a job as a team collectively handling those those absences

561
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: last year, and Philly did and give him all the

562
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: credit in the world to win the Super Bowl. Very good, Nate,

563
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: Hey Fellas, Yes, we got Billy from Louisville. And before

564
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: he asked this question, he's not I'm not the only

565
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: guy running around with something pink, you know what. But

566
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Speaker 1: he has a question about about Daz. All right, Yes,

567
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: I I just wondering what you guys thought about the

568
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: chances of Daz coming back. I've heard that one a

569
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: couple of times. Yeah, today, I think they're good. Yeah,

570
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: I do. I think that they're gonna figure out way.

571
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: He's gonna sit down and talk this out. And you know,

572
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: if I think Daz would, like Mickey said, all along,

573
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: treat him with respect, I think that he will in

574
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: turn come back. He understands the business side of this.

575
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: He's been a veteran player. Now he w to be here.

576
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: I think that they're they're gonna have to get through

577
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: some hurdles here. I think there's obviously some people in

578
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: the organization at certain parts like the maybe see move on,

579
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: But the people who are making decisions, they're the ones

580
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: that are gonna have to say, Okay, no, he's staying

581
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: and you guys need to be quiet. So yeah, I

582
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: feel like though that there's a good chance he stays.

583
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: But then again, I've gone back and forth with this, Yeah,

584
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: I really have. I mean, I think we've all struggled

585
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: with this. Mickey's been pretty consistent about it. But I

586
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: just worry a little bit about if if all of

587
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: a sudden that you know, we've seen somebody, two or

588
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: three people come up and say, Okay, we need to

589
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: do this different, and it influences Jerry in that way,

590
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: and that that's the thing that would worry me a

591
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: little bit. Let me read you two quotes from Jerry

592
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: this week to kind of encapsulate the death situation right now.

593
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: He said, we need to talk, and I certainly have

594
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: not had a thought about talking with him that did

595
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: not anticipate him being with us. There you go. The

596
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: other thing he said was with regard to the receivers

597
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: they've added, doesn't impact his situation. He said, I like

598
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: our mix. I think these two guys we signed in

599
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 1: what we might look at at any level of the draft,

600
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: plus what we might get work out with Dez gives

601
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: us a good looking receiver outlook. So they are factoring

602
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: him in. Yeah. Now, a conversation, though, still needs to

603
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: be had. And the speculation is what do they do

604
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: with his contract? He's got a twelve What does it make?

605
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: A twelve point five million dollars base salary and a

606
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: sixteen point five million dollars cap hit And that's a lot,

607
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: and that's a lot to slide in when you look

608
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: at the other receivers on this roster. So when you

609
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: look at the other receivers on the roster, if he's

610
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: not here, who takes his place? I've been saying that

611
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: you know I've been saying that all offseason. They have

612
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: to believe that Hearns would you're gonna make that bet.

613
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: It's not my job to make the bet, it's my

614
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: job to say it. Who I think they would think

615
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: that he would be that replacement. But I do think

616
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: that Hearns and Dez are very similar in their style. Now,

617
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: are they would? I'd rather have Dez Bryant, Absolutely I would,

618
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying the style in which they play,

619
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Speaker 1: I think is very very similar. Okay, if we look

620
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: at and I did this the other day, the wide

621
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: receivers under contract right now, Terrence Williams, Cole Beasley, Ryan Switzer,

622
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: Noah Brown, Deonte Thompson, Alan Hearns, I'll throw Lance Lenore

623
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: in there. Sure not. Death's finished the season? What six

624
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: touchdown catches? Right? All those guys I just mentioned they

625
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: totaled six touchdown catches. Nobody had more than two, and

626
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: three of them had zero. So you feel comfortable going

627
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: to battle with out Dez? No? Not not. Not on

628
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: the face of it. However, I do agree with what

629
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: Brian said that they might make you death. They might.

630
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't. I don't think it but

631
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: they're making a serious bed. I think I think every

632
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: offseason you have to project to some degree. I think

633
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: we all would be love to have Devi's Bryant at

634
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: the high level that he played at three years ago.

635
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: I think we'd all love that. And we're all saying

636
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Speaker 1: that Dez Bryant is a better player. I'm saying he's

637
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Speaker 1: very similar to Hearns, not maybe numbers wise, but where

638
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: he's similar is how he plays. And so that's where

639
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: I think it's not our job to make the bet.

640
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: They're making the bet. And and and again that's guy's jobs. Online.

641
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Speaker 1: If if I was a scout, I would argue against

642
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Speaker 1: getting rid of Dez Bryant. I would, but I but

643
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Speaker 1: I'm not in that building. I'm not on the outside

644
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: of the building anymore. And I'm thinking, okay, and watching

645
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Speaker 1: how they've watched them try and protect themselves with certain

646
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: ways of bringing players in. What do they do they

647
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Speaker 1: lose Keith Smith. I wouldn't have necessarily lost Keith Smith, Yeah,

648
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Speaker 1: but what they do They went out and got OLDA Wally,

649
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Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, So what has it been for them?

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Speaker 1: It's been reactionary moves. So why can't with Dez here,

651
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Speaker 1: Alan Hearns take snaps away from Arence Williams. Oh, I

652
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: think they're gonna try that. I think they're gonna try that. Yeah,

653
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Speaker 1: I mean Bryce Butler did. Yeah, I think they're but

654
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Speaker 1: but how many snaps at Bryce Butler play a game? Fifteen?

655
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Speaker 1: Maybe probably got hurt. Yeah, And then see, now if

656
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Speaker 1: you're if you're you know, you got a coach here

657
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: that they actually they they love well. Derek Duley no

658
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: longer here at Missouri, but you've got an offensive staff

659
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Speaker 1: that was very happy about having Terrence Williams back because

660
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: because Terrence Williams gives him a little bit as a blocker,

661
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: he's kind of a he could be a player they

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Speaker 1: use on the move, right, not really stuff that Alan

663
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: Hearns is kind of his cup of tea. But if

664
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Speaker 1: you you know, you want to get him involved. Yeah,

665
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: I personally don't take Dez Bryan off the field. I

666
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: don't think I take Cole Beasley off the field. But

667
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Speaker 1: if you tell me, okay, Alan Hearns is going to

668
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: play the Z for you, you can do it effectively.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the way they need to go. Separate

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Speaker 1: from the death situation when they looked at her. I

671
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: feel like they saw a guy that a couple of

672
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: years ago had a fourteen hundred yards season, had ten touchdowns.

673
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: He's only twenty six years old. He's had some injuries

674
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, but there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: potential there. They like the like the person, they like

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00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: the receiver, so they think they can help him. But

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00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: Mickey spoke to I think it's about competition. They're creating

678
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: competition on the offensive line too. We're not really sure

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Speaker 1: who the starting five is gonna be there. I don't

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Speaker 1: see yeah, and if you look at who the thirty

681
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Speaker 1: visits are going to be next week, I guarantee you

682
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be guy. There's gonna be some receivers in

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00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: that mix. And so there they might this might be

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Speaker 1: a whole redoing, much like they did with the defensive backslash,

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Speaker 1: because they haven't made a change at wide receiver in

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Speaker 1: five years. Five years? Right years? Ye Okay, Hank tight Nate,

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Speaker 1: we got a question right on the other side. Let's

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Speaker 1: take our final break of talking Cowboys and we'll go

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Speaker 1: back to Nate on the street at the Star in Frisco,

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. Welcome back to the celebration of the grand

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Speaker 1: opening entertainment district at the Star in Frisco. We're outside

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Way talking some cowboys on Cowboys Way. We got

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton out there, man, getting fan questions. What you

735
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Speaker 1: got Nate, No, I got some great dudes out him. Man,

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Speaker 1: these dudes came from Chicago. Yeah. Yes, we got Jackson

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Speaker 1: and we got Noah. No, they got Noah and they

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Speaker 1: got Jackson, and they both got Cowboy T shirts out.

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Speaker 1: You give him. Give me your name again, so I

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Speaker 1: got short term. Remember I give you. I'm Jackson. What's up, Jackson?

741
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Speaker 1: What is your question? What do action do you think

742
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys would go in the draft? What direction? What direction?

743
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: I think they could go any direction in the first

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00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 1: round except quarterback and running back. I'll tell you what, Jackson,

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00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: I think this is. He's Mickey's right about keeping an

746
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: open mind about things because they've worked out a lot

747
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: of different guys. You're kind of at the mercy of

748
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: really what the board is at nine team, because you

749
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: might have eighteen first round grades and then you get

750
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: the nineteen and you maybe you've lost a guy. With

751
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Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks that are going early in this draft,

752
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: you've got to hope they're gonna push some cats to you.

753
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: Jerry spoke to that this way. So they're kind of looking.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they've got some picks that they can move up

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00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: at they see guy. I think that the positions I

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Speaker 1: would watch on defense, I'd watch defensive Yeah, I'd watch

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00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. I'd watch linebacker, and then I would watch safety.

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Speaker 1: Those I'd watch those defense. I don't know if they'd

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Speaker 1: go corner, but if I had to guess, I would

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00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: say linebacker would be the first one and defensive tackle

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Speaker 1: will be the second one. Jackson, Chicago is a big city.

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Speaker 1: What what what town you live? Iniats? Okay, see Mickey's

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Speaker 1: from Chicago. I grew up at Chicago Heights, Chicago Heights,

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Speaker 1: the mean streets. Okay, we got no no what's up?

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Speaker 1: The real special for y'all? What do you think Man'zelle's

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00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: gonna end up a good one? Now? Brian was at

767
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: his workouts effort six million dollar quest. That's a smart man.

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Speaker 1: Watch out for that kid growing up. Yeah, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what you know. I'll tell you what you know

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Speaker 1: that Johnny manziel I was at the pro day at

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Speaker 1: Texas A and M the other day and he was

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Speaker 1: thrown for Christian Kirk and I will say this, physically,

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Speaker 1: he looked really good physically. I mean how he wasn't

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Speaker 1: you know, big or Doe looking very night that he was.

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Speaker 1: He was well put the doe Doe, yeah, doe, you

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Speaker 1: know Nate when I'm talking about kind of a Doe

777
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Speaker 1: looking guy, kind of a but but he threw the

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Speaker 1: ball really well. The placement of the ball like downfield,

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Speaker 1: the underneath stuff that he did, the comebacks, the curls,

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Speaker 1: the slants. I think he leaves three passes out of

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Speaker 1: about thirty eight that he threw. So yeah, I don't

782
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Speaker 1: know where New England has kind of been a team

783
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: rumored did they like him? But I wouldn't be surprised

784
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Speaker 1: if somebody bring after watching him work out there that

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Speaker 1: more teams all, they're all teams who represented Day and M.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if somebody brought him in just

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Speaker 1: for a workout, just to see some of the things

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Speaker 1: that we saw the other day. So do you think

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Speaker 1: he will really play in that developmental I think he will.

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Speaker 1: That's his intent. Springly Spring late springle in Austin, and

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Speaker 1: then if he doesn't after that, it's then the CFL. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, he's gonna play. It's just he's named after Nolan.

793
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Speaker 1: Ryan expressed, Man, oh, so this is mom and dad.

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Speaker 1: Come on the welcome They're they're hare for football and

795
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Speaker 1: baseball huh and basketball? Oh yeah, yeah, they're coming all through. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I see Cowboys shirts, cup shirt, Go Ramblers, Yeah, Loyola. Yeah,

797
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Speaker 1: big weekend. All right, thanks for the question, guys. I

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Speaker 1: may be the only one here that saw them win

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Speaker 1: a national championship. That is nineteen twenty stop six? Was

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Speaker 1: that I think sister was. She was forty, he was sixteen.

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Speaker 1: She was full what are you talking about? Making? Taking

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Speaker 1: out with her at the student union. She was probably

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Speaker 1: hidden spanking my hand for talking about I was wondering

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Speaker 1: which way you were going? Ye do Hey, speaking of

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Speaker 1: the previous question we got about the draft. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: my job to come up with polls on this show,

807
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 1: right when Taylor's hosting. Yeah. Yeah, So along the lines

808
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: of the previous question, Hey, after seeing what the Cowboys

809
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Speaker 1: have done in free agency, their top priority in the

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00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: draft should be and I got four options Brian, you

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Speaker 1: might not agree with all these I said linebacker. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: offensive line, because you can never have enough true safety

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Speaker 1: or I left a spot for other. Hello, this is

814
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Speaker 1: first round, first round or top priate priority. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: she wish you would have the offensive line. Maybe would

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Speaker 1: have been speaking to line or tackle? Are you other?

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Speaker 1: I think I'm more I think I'm mooring the linebacker mode,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Know, they keep saying it,

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Speaker 1: and Jason mentioned the other day that they need to

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Speaker 1: bring in more linebackers. Yeah, so I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that meant free agency and or the draft, but I

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Speaker 1: would imagine someplace in that first three rounds linebackers take. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think they're hunting linebackers. I really do. Again, thirty visits.

824
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Speaker 1: We'll see next week. Right, who wall is on that list?

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Speaker 1: Sean Evans Abama, They were down there yesterday. Look at

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Speaker 1: him along a lot of guys. Yeah, they they need

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Speaker 1: to kind of think about things. If we're kind of

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Speaker 1: getting into a mode where, uh, you know, you're thinking

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Speaker 1: about maybe a will linebacker, what are you gonna do

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Speaker 1: with Sean Lee? Not to try and put Sean Lee

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Speaker 1: to pasture or anything like anytime soon, because you showed

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00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: last year you need him off the field. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: here's you know, here's a guy again. You talk about

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Speaker 1: financial considerations and things like that, so, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: you have to kind of look to the future, and they,

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Speaker 1: you know, need it. They need a guy as a

837
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Speaker 1: guy could play a mic potentially backup Will Right, much

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Speaker 1: like Anthony Hitchins did last year. I wouldn't look at

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Speaker 1: Joe Thomas here as every playback. I wouldn't look a

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Speaker 1: him as as Anty Hitchins. I'm with you. I would

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Speaker 1: look at him more like he is a Kyle Wilburg

842
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Speaker 1: special teams player. That's a better Justin Durant and Mickey.

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00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: You and I were talking, Rob, I think you went

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Speaker 1: upstairs at the time we were to my lunch that

845
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Speaker 1: they needed a better Justin Durant. And still the million

846
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: dollar question too on top of that is Jaylen Smith

847
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 1: and what his role would be in this defense next year.

848
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: How much of a load would he be ready to handle.

849
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: I don't think we asked Jason Garrett that the other

850
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: day in Florida and he didn't. He didn't want to

851
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: put a snap count on him here in March. But

852
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: they feel like physically he'll be better. I still agree, Mickey,

853
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: You're right, they're gonna look for more linebackers. They had

854
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: look Hitchens and Sean Lee collectively missed a nine or

855
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: ten games last year, and you don't have Hitchins next

856
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: year as well. He's back with and Jalen Smith was

857
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: in no way ready to play sixty snaps. Yeah. That

858
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: was the thing that hurt him the most is the

859
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: fact that they we we kind of thought that Jalen

860
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: Smith was going to kind of ease his way in,

861
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: and easing his way in was thrown off the boat

862
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 1: into the ocean. Yeah, and swim back to land. Right,

863
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: so right, and so ken So we're you're removed from

864
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: all that. Can they count on him sixteen games at

865
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: sixty snaps a game ready for that? I think physically

866
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: he'll be ready. Physically, I think physically he will do

867
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: everything in his power to be ready. I think he'll

868
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: do everything he can to work out. I'm sure we'll

869
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: have he'll have a golf cart at training camp because

870
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: he'll be the offseason award guy. He'll be one of

871
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: those guys who we always see. He gets the Jason Witten,

872
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: it's the tyrant Smiths the guys that get the Jeff Eaths,

873
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: that get the golf carts, but will the nerve cooperator.

874
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: I think that what we're starting to hear, Mickey, and

875
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: I know that you kind of talked to the same

876
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: guy as I do. That his ability to raise his

877
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: foot is becoming more prevalent. I believe he said at

878
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: the end of the season, he doesn't get tested for that. Yeah,

879
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: And Jerry said, yeah, he said he. I've talked to coaches, trainers,

880
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: doctors and they all feel like he'll be from a

881
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: physical standpoint much better. Absolutely. I agree. Hey, what's got? Hey,

882
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: this is my last guy that's a zip from Mississippi

883
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: and now he lives in Nashville, but this is a

884
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: Mississippi state guy, So he has a nice question. Go dogs,

885
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: go doggs. Hey, I'm just out here looking for Dak

886
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: and I'm hoping you got How do we build a

887
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: core around Dak? I'll tell you what. That's that's a

888
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: that's a that's that's the whole that's right there. That

889
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: that's a great question again because to me, it is

890
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,959
Speaker 1: about the offensive line. It is about the running game.

891
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: It is about who's catching the football on the outside.

892
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: It's about getting Cole Beasley better. It's about Mickey's offensive

893
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: line approving the health at the left tackle and the

894
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: left guard getting a little bit better. You know, anything

895
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: that you can do to help Dak, I think you

896
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: have to exhaust those opportunities, right, you know, he he

897
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: wasn't a fluke his rookie year. That guy's a good

898
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: football player, you know, a fourth round pick. Yeah, I mean, hey,

899
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: maybe they caught lightning in a bottle. But early in

900
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: the season that team, he was running it pretty well

901
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: when they when they were five and three, they had him. Yeah,

902
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: and then you know, and then they have the shell

903
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: shot game in Atlanta, which you know, I mean, you don't,

904
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: that's that's one of those rare footballs. He sacks Rose

905
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: Mickey noticed a blee in the last eight games of

906
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: the season when he didn't have Tyron Smith for a

907
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: little stretch, and you didn't you know, you were revolving

908
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: door at your left tackle spot. I mean that all

909
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: factors in. He was sacked thirty two times last year,

910
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 1: twenty two in the last eight games. So what changed, Well,

911
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith missed three of those games and parts of

912
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: two others. Yeah, Well, he was injured and they didn't

913
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: have a quality backup. So we're almost back to where

914
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: we started this discussion, Nate, who do you want it

915
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: right tackle? Who do you want it left guard? And

916
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: who do you want to be the backup tackle? If

917
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: I'd had my way last year, Mick left our right

918
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: tackle in another moved out to that position. I wanted

919
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 1: to keep the middle strong and just worked for one side,

920
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: and that was the right tackle. Yeah, but now you

921
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: have to have the best five guys on the field

922
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: right and so if we got a better right tackle

923
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: than we do left guard, didn't we have to put

924
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: that guy at right tackle and Lyo once again have

925
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: to go back over to the left car if because

926
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: you can, I ask you, how difficult? Go ahead? So

927
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: so basically I did this. I played right Yeah, I know, yeah,

928
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: I know. We're in the same situation they were last

929
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: year training camp. Right, Yes, because I thought was if

930
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 1: if who's a better right tackle right right? It took

931
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: compared to the left guard right, is Chas Green a

932
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: better guard, and you can leave Lale Collins at tackle

933
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: or is Laale Collins a better tackle and I can

934
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: find somebody to play guard me? I would leave it

935
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 1: like it is now because he found a home last

936
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: year I think brought us. What was your assessment of

937
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: Layo Collins by I really I I'm with Mickey on this.

938
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: I would have the fact that he he went through

939
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: the growing pain early in the campaign to him playing

940
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: right tackle, and then by the end of it, I

941
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: thought he was one of your better linemen. Yes, and

942
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: I'm kind of at the point where I'm like, you

943
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: know what, I don't I don't want to. It's the

944
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: same thing with Byrne. It's the same thing with with

945
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 1: with j Jones. But by there goes the Star magazine. Yeah,

946
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: oh taking off early today they may Yeah, make sure

947
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: that my issue. Make sure you take out the sign magazine.

948
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: Deal is this right here with the offensive line, leave

949
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: it like it is, find your left guard. And this

950
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: is where an offensive line coach shows how he's gold

951
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: by making this fit, by making this work, by finding

952
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: out what they do do as a as a group

953
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: together real well and make it work. How difficult was

954
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: it for you to switch back and forth? Been tackle guard?

955
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: Been the great athlete that I was. I sweated and

956
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: I almost had a fit when Jimmy said you go

957
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: on the right tackle. Yeah, that means I had to

958
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: stay in shape all year long. I played at my lightness.

959
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: I think I played all year under three twenty. As

960
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: soon as they moved back to the left guard, I

961
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: went back to three thirty. Yeah, so it's easier. Let

962
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 1: me ask you because you were a teammate with Larry Allen,

963
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: and I know Larry Allen's a Hall of Fame place.

964
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: How did Larry feel about and he both positions? He

965
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: was an all pro, so maybe this is a bad comparison.

966
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: How did he feel when he I mean, he probably

967
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: popped a big dip in and he didn't really care

968
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: and he just laughed. I mean he didn't laughed and

969
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 1: scratched the head. But but your one did. He liked

970
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: playing more than the other. I think he liked the

971
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: playing the left side, whether it was left tackle or

972
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: left guard, right, because he that's the way he made

973
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 1: his money and that's why he Okay, so he knew

974
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: that he was he was destined for greatness and he

975
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: was gonna make money wherever he was. It's a bad

976
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: example probably now, but tackle ended up being a necessity

977
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: because they didn't you didn't have anybody else to put

978
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: out that time, right, Roland. Like you say that that's

979
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: that's a unique guy. I like it. It's what I

980
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: had to do. It was much harder for me to

981
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: go to right tackle because I didn't have a security blanket.

982
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: I had to deal with open space and guys been

983
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: you know. Once I got a guy going in the

984
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: direction for as that left guard, I had it because

985
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: it was sold up limited space that he had to

986
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: be a quick move. I had it, so right, What

987
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: was you what was worse having to face Reggie White

988
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: or Jerome Brown? Uh? Drove this one. You always talk

989
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: about someone who killed me? Yeah, to pick somebody else,

990
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: John Randall, Oh my god, it gets worse. I'd tell

991
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: I was blessed to play with with four of the

992
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: great guys, and I had to work. You know, I

993
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: faced all pros. Seemed like every game. You know, it

994
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,479
Speaker 1: was harder to go out of that right tackle because

995
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: it's just too much space. Let me ask you this though,

996
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: with with and is this why maybe Jerry Jones Stephen

997
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: Jones have this best five theories and and maybe even

998
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett being the head coach, because it was really

999
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: about in your era, the Super Bowl era, it was

1000
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: about the best five. Yes, yes, it was. They were winning.

1001
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: And they show up in training camp in ninety two

1002
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: and Jimmy says Tony Wise, Eric Williams, and I don't

1003
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: care whose feelings were hurting, and that was gonna be me.

1004
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: That was him, and it's like, fix it, make it work.

1005
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: And then they kicked Nate inside and yeah, I went.

1006
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: I went to jim and say, you say the best

1007
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: five And this one time I staffed Kevin Gogan is

1008
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: so deep into I'm not a Kevin Gogan. Oh all right,

1009
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: before we get out of here, I got a simple

1010
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: question for you guys. How do you feel they've handled

1011
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: free agency to this point? Because they might at this

1012
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: point they might be done for a little bit, unless

1013
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: opportunity presents itself. What do you think about what they've done?

1014
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: Adding replacing trading could be the next thing that we see. Yeah,

1015
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: maybe not the addition through trading, and that maybe in

1016
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: the draft or trying to move to get guys. I

1017
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: personally we all felt like that they were going to wait,

1018
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: but the guys that they were able to target to

1019
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: get again, when you get a guy that was a

1020
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: starting right tackle in an AFC Championship game, in a

1021
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and you know did well there. I think

1022
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: that's a credit to you right there and get them

1023
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: for a reason, right your deal? Yes, see what you got.

1024
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 1: I think that you know, going out and get Herns.

1025
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: You know again, you could say what you want about

1026
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: the numbers and that's you know, well we'll figure that

1027
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: all out. But I think they again, Will wants to

1028
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: protect himself, you know, and so he knows he's got

1029
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: ten draft picks coming up free agency. I'm okay with

1030
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: what they've done because now it's allowed them to take

1031
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: a wide net in in the draft and go the

1032
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: directions that they want to go draft purely as they

1033
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: always say that why not, why not? I'm gonna say

1034
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: this go ahead, And I started out like this, it's

1035
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: free agency will benefit me once I see how they

1036
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: handled is and where that situation shirts and how this

1037
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: offensive line coach. Because of these if these two guys

1038
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: work out, yes, then they've hit a home run. They

1039
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: need that. They need to hit on home run on

1040
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: some of these bottom fishing. What if what the bottom

1041
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: bottom fishing? That's what they called me. Don't do that

1042
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: you end up being an all pro type bus six

1043
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: time pro bowler Man bomin Hey sometimes you find a

1044
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: big old catfish down rights. My cat. We gotta get

1045
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: out of here. Thanks to Mickey, thanks to Brian, thanks

1046
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: to Nate, thanks to our crew, thanks to Jacob, Alex

1047
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: Chris Beam producing. Yes, everybody in the back, and thanks

1048
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: you guys for your questions up here. Thank you, this

1049
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: is fun. We got the Draft show up next. This

1050
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,360
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