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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio, and.

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Speaker 2: We are back with jfk Assassination choke Holds contributor James D. Eugenio,

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Speaker 2: one of five jfk assassination choke holds that prove there

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Speaker 2: was a conspiracy. You hinted at this earlier. One of

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Speaker 2: the choke holds has to do with the president's brain.

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Speaker 2: A lot of interesting mysteries surrounding the brain during the autopsy.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm really glad you brought that one on, Richard.

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Speaker 3: That's one of them that I wrote. And I truly

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Speaker 3: believe that this is sort of like our guiding light today,

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Speaker 3: you know, sort of like a lighthouse in the distance

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Speaker 3: that guides to the truth. All Right, the stuff about

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Speaker 3: this Kennedy's brain has become, I believe, so malevolent and

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Speaker 3: so really probative as far as evidence goes. That again,

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any way out of this. All Right.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a lawyer, but if I was a lawyer,

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Speaker 3: I'd love to be presenting this stuff in court. You know.

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Speaker 3: My first witness would be John Stringer. John Stringer was

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Speaker 3: the official photographer for the Warranture Engine he was supposed

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Speaker 3: to have taken the autopsy photos. If you can believe it,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't until nineteen ninety six. I believe that he

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Speaker 3: was placed under oath and questioned about the procedures that

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Speaker 3: he used, all right, and the techniques that he used,

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Speaker 3: and the film brand that he used. The ar and

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Speaker 3: b led by Chief Counselor Jeremy Gunn did a very

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Speaker 3: intelligent thing before they confronted him with the evidence. They

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Speaker 3: asked them these kinds of questions, you know, so he

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Speaker 3: couldn't switch his story if it clashed with the evidence.

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Speaker 3: So once they questioned him, they brought him into a

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Speaker 3: room and they put up on an easel what are

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Speaker 3: supposed to be the official autopsy photos of Kennedy's brain.

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Speaker 2: And.

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Speaker 3: Stringer was, to put it mildly, taken aback. He walked

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Speaker 3: up to the pictures, examined them closely, and first he said,

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Speaker 3: this is Anskoe. I didn't use Anskoll's film. I used

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Speaker 3: Koda Chrum Okay, excuse me. I used Kodak ectochrome, all right.

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Speaker 3: And you see these numbers here on the lower right

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Speaker 3: hand corner. This means this was part of a press pack.

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Speaker 3: It was taken in series. That's why they have numbers.

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Speaker 3: I didn't use a press pack, okay, you know, so.

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Speaker 2: He didn't take these photos are not his?

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Speaker 3: So and so, well, that's what I'm going to get

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Speaker 3: to next. And so Jeremy Gunn then asked him, do

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Speaker 3: you then, on the basis of what you just said

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Speaker 3: and saw deny that you took these photographs? And he said,

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Speaker 3: if that's Ansko and if that's a press pack, and

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Speaker 3: take these pictures. And he later said that they were

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Speaker 3: both true, that it was amscope okay, and it was

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Speaker 3: a press pack all right. So that would be my

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Speaker 3: first witness. I would then call up any kind of

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Speaker 3: practicing neurologist and I would ask them what is the

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Speaker 3: average weight of a male brain? All right? And I

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Speaker 3: know what the answer would be about thirteen hundred and

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Speaker 3: forty grams. I would then have him look at the

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Speaker 3: supplement of lautopsy of President Kennedy and then I would say, now,

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Speaker 3: what does it say there is the weight of Kennedy's

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Speaker 3: brain at the supplement of law autopsy. And the guy

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Speaker 3: would say fifteen hundred grams And I would say, well,

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Speaker 3: isn't that more than he average by a significant number?

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Speaker 3: And he would say yes. Then what I would start

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Speaker 3: doing as I would start showing pictures of the back

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Speaker 3: of Kennedy's car, the limousine with all the blood and

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Speaker 3: tissue blasted all over it. I would show films of

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Speaker 3: Jackie Kennedy reaching out the trunk of the car to

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Speaker 3: get part of the brain that was blasted away, you know.

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Speaker 3: I would then show the subbruiter film to show the

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Speaker 3: huge head explosion. Then I would read the testimony of

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Speaker 3: Bill Hargus, who was one of the cyclists on the

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Speaker 3: and remember this on the left side of Kennedy's car,

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Speaker 3: And I would and it would say that he was

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Speaker 3: hit so hard that he thought it was a projectile.

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Speaker 3: It was really part of Kennedy's brain. So, in other words,

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Speaker 3: we're supposed to believe that with all this demonstrative physical

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Speaker 3: evidence Kennedy's head being blown apart of it being in

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Speaker 3: the back of the car, out of the back of

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Speaker 3: the car to the left side on a policeman, all right,

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Speaker 3: his head exploding in the air, and there's a brute

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Speaker 3: of film, we're still supposed to believe that Kennedy's brain

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Speaker 3: was above average and weight. Then the last people I

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Speaker 3: as much as one third of it gone. And there's

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Speaker 3: about twelve or thirteen of them. So is all this

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Speaker 3: physical evidence wrong? You know? I don't think so. I'd say,

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Speaker 3: I do not believe for one instant that those pictures

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Speaker 3: and those illustrations depict Kennedy's brain. And I belie the

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Speaker 3: main reason that this happened is that wherever Kennedy's brain

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Speaker 3: really is today, all right, it would depict evidence of

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Speaker 3: two bullet wounds to the brain. And on top of that,

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Speaker 3: we have this fact. When I interviewed Henry Lee for

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Speaker 3: with him out here in Malibu, and I asked him

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Speaker 3: and he and I asked him, I go, can you

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Speaker 3: do a trajectory analysis and in the Kennedy case? And

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Speaker 3: he said, you can't do one? And that isn't what

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Speaker 3: I expected him to say, frankly, so I naturally I said,

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Speaker 3: well why, and he said, because neither wound was dissected.

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Speaker 3: Kennedy's brain should have been what they call section that is,

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Speaker 3: either in what they call a bread loaf style, in

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Speaker 3: other words, you cut it like you're cutting a loaf

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Speaker 3: of bread, right right, okay, or what they call a

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Speaker 3: pie section style, in which you cut it like a pie,

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Speaker 3: all right, and you end up with like six or

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Speaker 3: eight triangular type pieces. Now the reason you do that,

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Speaker 3: of course, is this will tell you a how many

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Speaker 3: projectiles were fired and b where they went? All right,

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Speaker 3: So why wasn't that done? Why wasn't that done? That's

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Speaker 3: an incredible that's an incredible failure of the JFK optic

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Speaker 3: to have one be killed by a gunshot, wounded the

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Speaker 2: You know again, right, because it would show evidence of

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Speaker 2: two bullets, which means no magic bullet theory, no loan

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Speaker 3: Right. I think that's the That would be a logical

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Speaker 3: and a very I believe strong conclusion to all this evidence.

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Speaker 2: What about the autopsy sketches?

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Speaker 3: Oh well then, now those are very interesting because one

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Speaker 3: of the things that the House House lect Committee said

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Speaker 3: in their report I think it's volume seven, page thirty seven,

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Speaker 3: is that although there is some discrepancy between the descriptions

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Speaker 3: of the back of Kennedy's skull, all right. The people

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Speaker 3: who saw it at Bethesda Medical Center where the autopsy

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Speaker 3: was performed, they say that the back of the head

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Speaker 3: was intact. That's what the report says. That is a

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Speaker 3: lie because when the review board went ahead and declassified

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Speaker 3: all this evidence that the Household Committee had hidden, it

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Speaker 3: turned out that just as many people as Bethesta at

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Speaker 3: Parkland saw this hole in the back of Kennedy's head

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Speaker 3: and they drew pictures of it. They actually drew pictures

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Speaker 3: this is really remarkable stuff that was declassified.

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Speaker 2: In other words, it's an exit wound. He was shot

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Speaker 2: from the front or the side, not the back the

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Speaker 2: fatal wound.

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Speaker 3: Well. See that's then this relates to another point that

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Speaker 3: we brought up in the book. That is the strong

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Speaker 3: evidence that there was a front shot, okay, And what

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Speaker 3: this is largely based upon is the fact that in

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Speaker 3: the front of Kennedy's X rays of his skull there

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Speaker 3: are a multitude of what can only be considered dust

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Speaker 3: like particles in the front, all right, but the larger

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Speaker 3: particles from Kennedy's brain are in the back. And by

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Speaker 3: the way, we got this from what was supposed to

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Speaker 3: be the House Select Committee's expert, all right, He said

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Speaker 3: that the smaller particles will stay near where the bullet entered, okay,

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Speaker 3: because they don't have any real power because they're so small,

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Speaker 3: all right, to travel through tissue, all right, whereas the

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Speaker 3: larger particles will be able to do that. The larger

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Speaker 3: particles in this case are in the mid section or

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Speaker 3: to the rear of Kennedy's skull. And that is very

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Speaker 3: strong evidence that Kennedy was hit by a frontal bullet.

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Speaker 3: And if you combine that with the forty two people

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Speaker 3: who said they saw a blasted out a vulsive wound

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Speaker 3: in the rear of Kennedy's skull, that's pretty powerful, I believe.

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Speaker 3: And then, of course I don't have to tell you this,

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Speaker 3: but then you combine this with the action of Kennedy

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Speaker 3: and there's a bruter film, all right, which is back

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Speaker 3: into the left. You know, then I think you have

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Speaker 3: a very powerful case that Kennedy was hit from the front.

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Speaker 2: Did any of this well, some of this came up

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Speaker 2: during the House Select Committee in nineteen seventy nine, right

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Speaker 2: when they found out No, actually it didn't, it didn't,

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Speaker 2: none of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the only thing that came up was a Zapruder film.

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Speaker 3: The thing about the particles, Sturtien got the wrong X rays,

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Speaker 3: all right, he got the enhanced X rays which pretty

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Speaker 3: much wide out the smaller particles in the front of

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Speaker 3: the skull, so they're really not visible, all right. When

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Speaker 3: the X when these radiologists who we know, like David

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Speaker 3: Mantick okay, saw these things, all right, he saw the

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Speaker 3: uninhanced version in which you can be all these small

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Speaker 3: that was that was the big giveaway. And then of

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Speaker 3: course they covered up the evidence of the hole in

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Speaker 3: the back of Kennedy's go So this really did not

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Speaker 3: come out until the I guess I've been using that

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Speaker 3: it is. When Oliver Stone's film came out in nineteen

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Speaker 3: the end of his film he had a tagline which said,

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Speaker 3: the files of the last investigation of President Kennedy's death,

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Speaker 3: the House Let Committee and Assassinations are classified till twenty

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Speaker 3: doing a lot of phone calls, a lot of letters, etc.

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Speaker 3: This forced Congress to have hearings, and as a result,

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Speaker 3: a citizens panel was put together called the Assassination Record

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Speaker 3: Review Board, and they went ahead and started declassifying all

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Speaker 3: this information. It was a very extraordinary move by Congress

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Speaker 3: to do this, all right, because it usually takes years

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Speaker 3: to declassify these documents. Right. Well, the review Board went

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Speaker 3: to work and the declassified something like sixty thousand documents

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Speaker 3: in about four years, which is really remarkable. And this

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Speaker 3: we found out about this. So it's indirectly because of

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Speaker 3: Oliver Stone's nineteen ninety one movie that I can talk

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Speaker 3: to you about this evidence.

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Speaker 2: Right, right, they were all to be declassified by twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 2: but they were not correct.

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Speaker 3: That's absolutely correct. And Donald Trump actually tweeted about it

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Speaker 3: about two weeks before they were supposed to be finally declassified.

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Speaker 3: And then what happened, Well, on a day they were

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Speaker 3: supposed to be declassified, the FBI and the CIA went

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Speaker 3: to the Trump's office and one way or another they

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Speaker 3: intimidated him not to do it. So they were first

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Speaker 3: delayed six months. Then Trump delayed them another three years,

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Speaker 3: in other words, into the next presidency. Well we know

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Speaker 3: Biden was the next president, and then he deferred them

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Speaker 3: for another I believe here, and then he did something

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Speaker 3: even worse. He now has changed the whole rules of

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Speaker 3: the review Board and how they can declassified documents. He's

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Speaker 3: Congress has left an executive in the White House the

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