WEBVTT - The Orange Man Stealing Y'all Votes | NLP Replay

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<v Speaker 1>Native Lampard is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with

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<v Speaker 1>Reason Choice Media. You know, the other thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>think is important to bring into this mix. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about redistricting efforts in Virginia, of course, but we also

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<v Speaker 1>can't turn a blind eye to some of the tactics

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<v Speaker 1>that the Trump administration have turned to within the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of months. So we know in January, at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of January, the FBI went to raid Fulton County's

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<v Speaker 1>voting records from twenty twenty as if to give Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump any credibility to what he was alleging. Then also

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<v Speaker 1>seeking out votes, which we know Fannie, our dear sister

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<v Speaker 1>Fannie Willis was working on trying to prosecute him for

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<v Speaker 1>the election fraud he was actually committing. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of January, authorities see seven hundred boxes, seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>boxes related to an election six years ago. There is

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to look for from six years ago except for

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<v Speaker 1>intimidation of voters in a very very important election in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>as we know coming up. It's important everywhere, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>particularly important in Georgia because we have the opportunity to hold.

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<v Speaker 2>The Senate to elect a new governor or not.

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<v Speaker 1>So seven hundred boxes related to this probe all in

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<v Speaker 1>Fulton County.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's in Fulton County? Y'all okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And then the Homeland Security Oh, by the way, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, the FBI field agent in charge, his name

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<v Speaker 1>was Paul Brown, I believe was fired for expressing concerns

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<v Speaker 1>about this FBI raid. So I also want to be

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<v Speaker 1>clear about that, if you're not a yes man or

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<v Speaker 1>a yes woman for Trump, you gotta go. So then

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<v Speaker 1>after that they went to Arizona. Guess where they went to, Arizona,

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<v Speaker 1>Mara Copa, Maricopa County.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's in Maricopa. So I just I want to point

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<v Speaker 2>this out.

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<v Speaker 1>This is over, you know again, the twenty twenty election

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<v Speaker 1>results all from a debunked claim that there was, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there was election fraud happening there. The former attorney general

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<v Speaker 1>in Arizona looking into this, and of course it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a debunked, debunk claim.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, Angela, I don't even think it's about I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think it's a I don't think this is a

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<v Speaker 3>rewind to the last election.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you don't.

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<v Speaker 3>This is pretext for this is them trying to push

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<v Speaker 3>the limits of their authority, to show the American people

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<v Speaker 3>what they have the capacity to do, what courts will

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<v Speaker 3>step in to keep them from seizing ballots, What courts

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<v Speaker 3>will keep, you know, stop them from going and so

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<v Speaker 3>seizing voting machines on the evening of elections, when those

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<v Speaker 3>machines should be counting votes and sending them directly to

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<v Speaker 3>the headquarters and counties all across the country. I think

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<v Speaker 3>they are here testing the limits of not their authority,

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<v Speaker 3>because they don't have the authority to do this. They're

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<v Speaker 3>testing the They're testing the limits of who gonna check me,

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<v Speaker 3>who's gonna stop me? And with what military are they

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<v Speaker 3>going to do it with. So I again, when we

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<v Speaker 3>talk about the things that we should just anticipate, be

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<v Speaker 3>prepared for Democrats, anyone who cared a Democrat, democracy loving person,

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<v Speaker 3>please please please don't handle this like we might address

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<v Speaker 3>the normal uh rigors of a of a of an

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<v Speaker 3>inquisition reasonable in nature, even if we disagree with the outcomes.

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<v Speaker 4>This is not what this is.

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<v Speaker 3>This is authoritarianism at its at at its alphabet at

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<v Speaker 3>its dictionary described level. Being persecuted by Trump in all

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<v Speaker 3>of his SIKA fans. There are no check people to

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<v Speaker 3>keep him from doing this. He wanted to seize the

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<v Speaker 3>ballots last time, and fortunately there were people like Kelly

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<v Speaker 3>in places said nah, we can't do that. The Attorney

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<v Speaker 3>general of the country who did that. Now, who thinks

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<v Speaker 3>Pam Bondy is going to stand in front of Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump and say no to anything?

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody know, nobody we.

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<v Speaker 2>Know that's not happening.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think it gets to what really is the

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<v Speaker 5>soft spot in our democracy, and that is we continue

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<v Speaker 5>to forget that the democracy only stands as much as

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<v Speaker 5>the people are willing to actually protect it. And what

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<v Speaker 5>we know, definitely knew from what happened previously, was that

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<v Speaker 5>if not for Mike Pence, you know, by the thinnest

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<v Speaker 5>finnest of margins, did things hold together. And so when

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<v Speaker 5>you lose, or when the people who are supposed to

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<v Speaker 5>protect the democracy no longer do, the institution is not

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<v Speaker 5>going to defend itself. And many people knew that this

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<v Speaker 5>version of Trump would be far more dangerous because he

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<v Speaker 5>was going to have those sick of fans you talked

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<v Speaker 5>about who do not believe in actual governance, who do

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<v Speaker 5>not believe in the rule of law, who do not

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<v Speaker 5>believe in a certain decorum that should be part of politics,

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<v Speaker 5>because as much as I hated as last administration, this

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<v Speaker 5>one is like this makes the last one look like

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<v Speaker 5>child's play. And the difference is this time around they

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<v Speaker 5>don't believe in those things that they're willing to do

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<v Speaker 5>whatever the king wishes. And so I think what is

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<v Speaker 5>frightening for me is that I don't think the American

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<v Speaker 5>people are actually alarmed enough that I get it like

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of people are dealing with shortbandwidth. They have

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<v Speaker 5>already said their intention was the blood zone with hourly horrors,

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<v Speaker 5>of which we're like what and to the point where

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<v Speaker 5>you feel hopeless. But I think they're playing largely works

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<v Speaker 5>because when I see things like what is embolding in

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<v Speaker 5>Georgia and Arizona and that, yes, there's outrage among those

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<v Speaker 5>who pay attention, but the people who really need to

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<v Speaker 5>be outraged and paying attention are just kind of in

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<v Speaker 5>this web of I don't even know what to do

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<v Speaker 5>in this moment. That to me, it's the apathy that

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<v Speaker 5>worries me.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure three quick points. I think that we're overlooking the

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<v Speaker 6>psychopathy of the President of the United States. So I

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<v Speaker 6>disagree with Andrew just slightly because I do think that

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of this is done because the president believes

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<v Speaker 6>he won the election in twenty twenty, and so I

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<v Speaker 6>think that he is asking people to go out and

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<v Speaker 6>kind of do this excursion into finding him the votes,

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<v Speaker 6>which we all know doesn't exist. But I also think

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<v Speaker 6>that you're right, Andrew on the back part, because I

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<v Speaker 6>do think that there are people around the president, the

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<v Speaker 6>Stephen Miller's, the Bannons, et cetera, that want to exploit

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<v Speaker 6>that underbelly. And what they're saying is, look, we are

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<v Speaker 6>not going to wait until six years later. If we

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<v Speaker 6>don't like the results of Arizona. We're going to take

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<v Speaker 6>those ballots before their accountant or after their accountants, or

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<v Speaker 6>whenever the hell we want to. Then were just going

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<v Speaker 6>to figure out how to count them. We gonna count

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<v Speaker 6>and one or basically, we'll ask Donald Trump how much

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<v Speaker 6>you want to win by today?

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<v Speaker 4>So I need you to find me y'ah eleven thousand.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, I need you to I want to win by

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<v Speaker 6>I want to win by twelve points, right. So I

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<v Speaker 6>think that that's a part of it as well. And

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<v Speaker 6>I don't I just don't think. I just don't think

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<v Speaker 6>that we have the urgency one and people don't understand

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<v Speaker 6>how to fight back two. And I'm it's hard because

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<v Speaker 6>we don't have a fighter yet in the ring like this.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess this is where Andrew would be like Macari,

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<v Speaker 6>we don't need a fighter in the ring. This is

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<v Speaker 6>about democracy.

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<v Speaker 4>The people can do it. Hey, Minnesota showed us.

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<v Speaker 6>In Minnesota showed us. You're right. I just think I

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<v Speaker 6>wish we had a fighter in the ring too. But

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<v Speaker 6>I guess that time will come soon that we're all

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<v Speaker 6>going to have to rally around somebody who at the

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<v Speaker 6>very fundamental portion of their life is pro democracy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not a person I really hope it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And I honestly think Minnesota is a blueprint in the

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<v Speaker 3>sense that when people see the threat at their doorstep,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a red line and they're saying, you're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to cross it here. So if it's in my community,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not some esoteric I believe the talking points

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<v Speaker 3>that he's looking back sixty years to see whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not he won or not. This is me saying no,

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<v Speaker 3>right now, this man is trying to take say it again.

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<v Speaker 5>Isn't that bad Because by the time it gets to

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<v Speaker 5>your doorstep, it is too late.

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<v Speaker 3>No. I think this is going to be real time shit.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that they I think we're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>traumatized by the swiftness and by the audacity of what

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to attempt on election day and the ten

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<v Speaker 3>days leading up to election day for early voting states,

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<v Speaker 3>and in the way in which they're going to assault

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<v Speaker 3>the court courts, but mostly they're going to assault public opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to get out there and they're going to say, rembermember,

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<v Speaker 3>back then when the cab County stole all those votes

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<v Speaker 3>and we had to take those ballots. Remember when the

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<v Speaker 3>Latinos allowed fifty thousand immigrants across the border so they

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<v Speaker 3>could vote that day. I think this is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be head on a swivel type stuff, and it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to require us to have not a knee jerk, but

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<v Speaker 3>I mean unprecedented levels of response to them stealing.

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<v Speaker 6>What is that lection? That's the question.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, two thousand in Florida. I was here for that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you couldn't keep us down. We were down

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<v Speaker 3>at that we were down at the capitol and at

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<v Speaker 3>the Secretier State's office.

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<v Speaker 4>It was mayhem complete in total Mayhem narrator states we

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<v Speaker 4>still lost, and I think that.

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<v Speaker 3>We lost a five to four, we lost a five

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<v Speaker 3>to six or what was it, seventh four subquor.

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<v Speaker 1>I think here's the here's the point that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to raise in this moment. What is scary to me

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<v Speaker 1>is that during the country's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary year,

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<v Speaker 1>we are now at a place we are fighting for

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<v Speaker 1>the fundamental right to vote, fundamental access to the ballot box,

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not our ballot should be counted, who is

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<v Speaker 1>making a very partial determination about who gets to have

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<v Speaker 1>their say, And we've.

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<v Speaker 2>Already had that battle.

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<v Speaker 1>We had it in the Constitution, there's an amendment for that,

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<v Speaker 1>we had it in the nineteen sixty five Voting Rights Act,

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<v Speaker 1>in every reauthorization after that. So I'm just saying that

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<v Speaker 1>at some point, the law of the land should stand,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're mad about a black president winning the election

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<v Speaker 1>or not. All of this shifted again to partisanship after

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<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama won the election, and I think that until

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<v Speaker 1>this country is willing to come to terms with its

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<v Speaker 1>ugly history, the fact that the vestiges of slavery are

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<v Speaker 1>alive well and present, we are going to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>repeat this. And so yes, we should fight, but also

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<v Speaker 1>we do need fighters. Fighters need to show up. This

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<v Speaker 1>should be something that is talked about consistently. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell y'all because I started talking about Reverend Jackson at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning. I used to get so mad sometimes when

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what we were talking about, somewhere Reverend Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>got on the stage and he always brought up the

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<v Speaker 1>right to vote, and I'd be like, we're fine, we're voting.

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<v Speaker 1>We just voughted, we could, you know, And this is now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is pre two thousand and eight. By the time

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ten and the tea party rode around, I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he might be onto something. When voter ID and all

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<v Speaker 1>the suppressive measures that they introduced in state legislatures all

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the country, cutting back early voting days, figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>how to have voter ID. It's just an ID. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to have IDA to get on a plane. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>don't fly right. Everybody don't Everybody don't live right down

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<v Speaker 1>the street from a Department of Licensing or a DMV.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody can't afford a passport or to get a new

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<v Speaker 1>birth certificate. Like we have a privileged way of thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about this, and it is suppressive and harmful to our

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<v Speaker 1>elders who fought the very fight for us. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is frustrating to have to have this fundamental conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when there are people in our communities who are

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<v Speaker 1>like I would love to talk to you about voting,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't feed my kids tomorrow. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to walk in chew gum at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>hell chew something. We got to be able to meet

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<v Speaker 1>people's basic needs. But also, this is a basic and

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<v Speaker 1>fundamental right. It should be constitutionally protected in ways that

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<v Speaker 1>it's clearly not because our Supreme Court is willing to

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<v Speaker 1>throw everything in the balance.

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<v Speaker 6>So Andrew, you preach, we need to clip that, because

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<v Speaker 6>that's that's fire being fair and true. But let me

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<v Speaker 6>also tell you why we in this situation. The reason

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<v Speaker 6>we're in this situation is because we never punish the Confederates.

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<v Speaker 6>I remind amen, because Amen, I remind people of that

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<v Speaker 6>all the time. The most treason this group of people

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<v Speaker 6>we've ever had walked the country, we never punish them.

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<v Speaker 6>The same people who brought us Jim Crow, who brought

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<v Speaker 6>us the black Codes, we never punished them. Those are

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<v Speaker 6>the same people who on January sixth showed us that

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<v Speaker 6>they were going to storm the capitol. We never punished him.

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<v Speaker 6>Now those people are running government, so and Merrick Garland

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<v Speaker 6>didn't help us. I always say that the reason we're

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<v Speaker 6>in this situation is this country never punished the Confederates,

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<v Speaker 6>and now we're stuck here. We're dealing with one hundred

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<v Speaker 6>and Angela. The reason it's so hard is we're dealing

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<v Speaker 6>with one hundred and twenty years, one hundred and more

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<v Speaker 6>than one hundred and thirty plus years of that entrenched

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<v Speaker 6>history of having individuals who don't believe in the very

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<v Speaker 6>essence of what this country should be still running government today.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it predates them. For instance, Americans don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to reckon with the fact that we didn't allow all

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<v Speaker 3>people to vote. We alloted white men who were landowners

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<v Speaker 3>to vote, and guess what else, they did not have

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<v Speaker 3>to be citizens of the United States of America to vote.

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<v Speaker 3>That has not always been a condition of voting in

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<v Speaker 3>federal elections or local elections in the United States of

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<v Speaker 3>America over its history. It did not begin that way.

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<v Speaker 3>This country has always prioritized the most powerful, the most

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<v Speaker 3>well connected, the most well constituted individuals and quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>if they had it their way. And this is why

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump doesn't face as much resistance within his party

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<v Speaker 3>as he should trying to be not just a kleptocrat,

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<v Speaker 3>but quite frankly, to return this nation to some kind

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<v Speaker 3>of aristocracy or worse. Is because they fundamentally don't believe

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<v Speaker 3>that the proletariat should have access direct access to the

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<v Speaker 3>ballot box.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, the Framers didn't believe that either.

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<v Speaker 3>We did not have direct elections to House members, to

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<v Speaker 3>Senate members, to the presidency, and we still don't have

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<v Speaker 3>direct elections to the presidency. We were electing people to

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<v Speaker 3>go and then hopefully speak for US and conventions and

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<v Speaker 3>as Electoral College voters and as US senators. But we

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<v Speaker 3>were not supposed to have this much direct proximity to

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<v Speaker 3>one the vote and then to what is supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>be inured from it, which is power. They don't believe

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<v Speaker 3>we should. So they really want to return to a

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<v Speaker 3>foundational premise where the most powerful, the most well connected,

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<v Speaker 3>the most well yield, even if they are not US citizens,

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<v Speaker 3>are the ones who basically get to control.

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<v Speaker 2>Things absolutely well.

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<v Speaker 1>We will continue to be following all the redistricting efforts,

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<v Speaker 1>the midterm mid term redistricting efforts, by the way, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of what's happening as we lead into the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six midterms, and efforts by the Trump administration to

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<v Speaker 1>still kill and destroy the midterms, and all of our efforts,

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<v Speaker 1>our collective efforts to fight back. So thank you all,

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