1 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Point Game with John Wall and CJ Toldonnald 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: presented by Draft Kings. Don't forget. DraftKings is your home 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: for all the action across the NBA gets you closer 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: to the game we all love. The crown is yours, guys. 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: We got a special episode today and we're not gonna 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: make him wait in the waiting room. We're gonna bring 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: him right on here. We got the three time NBA 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: All Star, five time NBA All Defense. Fellow Kentucky legend, 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to Point Game. Bam out 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: of bio, Bam. How you doing, man, I'm chilling. I'm 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: still an upset. I had to wait all this time 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: to get on this podcast. 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: Okay, we've been, We're gonna we've been. You've been trying 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: to get Bam on for a long time. 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: But you was in. He just seen me the other day. 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 4: This man we already had his words though. 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: Man, hell no, we did. 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 4: You got it, bro, We did. But you know, schedule 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 4: busy during the season. You know how that go. 20 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: I can all right, I can give you that. But 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: we lost in the first round, so we had all 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 3: of them. 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: May yeah, we did, but they had breaks. We had breaks, 24 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: we took breaks, we had breaks. What we want to 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: do a podcast? So can't just blame me, man, you 26 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: can't just blame me on this. 27 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: Listen, John, BAM's got a busy summer here Team US 28 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: say thank you Bam for joining us. 29 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, second time team USA. 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 3: That's big time, two time, two time. 31 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: A lot of people can't say that. But how do 32 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: you feel to be nominated again to be on the 33 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: roster again? I know that specially, I mean always. You know, 34 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: you represent your your name on your back and your family, 35 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: but you get to play for your country that you 36 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: was born and raise in. 37 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, obviously getting the chance to be 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: one of the twelve. Uh, and you like, you know, John, 39 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: it's not we got four hundred and fifty players in 40 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: all league, so be being able to be selected as 41 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: the top twelve to go represent your country. It's just 42 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: you know, you it's a standard. Uh. It's one of 43 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: those things you just embraced and you just, uh, he's 44 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: really buying it that role. Yeah. 45 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Bam. I mean you said, 46 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: yeah at a four hundred, you got twelve on there. 47 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: So how do you what do you think is going 48 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: to be the starting five, And how do you think 49 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: that's gonna get picked? You guys scrimmage and then. 50 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: Uh work, I don't even know how you picked that five. Honestly, 51 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: who would you be? 52 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: Who would be your starting five? Feelings here? 53 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: Oh nah, for sure it'd be I mean they're calling 54 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: this the Avenger team. It would be probably be braun 55 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 3: kd Steph. You gotta put Joel in there, and then 56 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 3: the fifth one is kind of like the wild card. 57 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: So it really depends on how those four fit with 58 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: the last per So I can't give you that left. 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen you play four before. 60 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know, but let's be honest here, Like, 61 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: I'm not on the Olympic team to go shoot twenty 62 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: times mm hmm. Yeah. We in there. I'm in there 63 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: to be versatile, switch, defend, make plays. That's what I'm 64 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: there for. So if that's starting, Roles calls that and 65 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: that's for me, that's for me. 66 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 4: No, I can't. That's interesting. A lot of people don't 67 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 4: understand that. 68 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: Like, I think that's one thing a lot of people 69 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: get upset about you about just even in the NBA game, 70 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: Like you're not a guy that's come out there trying 71 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: to go get twenty five thirty shots. You can and 72 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: you've got the capability to do it. But you fit 73 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: into any role with any team. And that's why kind 74 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: of like a jew Holiday, Derek White guy that like 75 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: the Glue guys that's special in what they do, but 76 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: they can be stars that they need to and you 77 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: having that mindset going into it, you're not like that's 78 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: the biggest thing, like you said, trying to pick a 79 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: USA team, It's like everybody's being that man and probably 80 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: still in them managing thirty twenty eight, Like how can 81 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: you put that to a side, Like that last spot 82 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: gonna be interesting because most people think Jason Tatum will 83 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: get it or deep book to get it, But then 84 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: you go look at the run that man just was on. 85 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: He feels like he should have that spot. 86 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: Uh. 87 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of those different things. Like you know, 88 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: people don't like got I said, man, you don't you 89 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: don't know what you don't know as fans you just 90 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: watching it and man like ooh, like he goes get 91 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: thirty every night. The people that get thirty every night 92 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: shall start But it's like they don't understand that other 93 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: people around them, not saying I'm not gonna say help 94 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: them get thirty, but yeah, you know a lot of 95 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 3: dude sacrifice shots to get people that are genetically gifted 96 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: to go get thirty like we are. For sure, Kevin 97 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 3: Durant is what he is. He's one of the best scores, 98 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: if not the that's walked through this lead understandable. So 99 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: as a as a person, you can't be selfish and 100 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 3: be like, nah, bro, I'm gonna go get my fifteen 101 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 3: shots and it's like, that's not how it works in 102 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: the Olympics, big guy like that was That was really 103 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 3: the eye opener for me in the the first one, 104 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: like being able to sit sit in that room and 105 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 3: actually like be honest, like listen, well all we all 106 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 3: can't get our clips that we get in our regular teams. 107 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: Somebody's gonna have to sacrifice you. You might have to 108 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 3: you might have to be like, this ain't my job 109 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: to score. I got to defend the rebound. Like I 110 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 3: wasn't the top score, but I led the team in rebound. 111 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: M hm. 112 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: So I mean you at that point, that's when you 113 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 3: find your niche. 114 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: Do you feel like, because I feel like you call 115 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: it the Avengers team. You know, we got stuff coming 116 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: out there. We got you know, some of the older 117 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: Vets who would normally you know, maybe like bypass you 118 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: know Timyo say, but it's like international game has gotten crazy. 119 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: These guys are like, we gotta go out. It might 120 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: be Bron's last one. I mean it's gonna be Bronze 121 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: probably last one. So do you think there's gonna be 122 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: a dynamic in that locker room where you know, you 123 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: might feel not like a rookie again. I mean you've 124 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: done this before. But you think there's gonna be like 125 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: a divide or like a classification with you guys being 126 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: the young guys and then the older guys kind of 127 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: how we saw in like Dream Team one. 128 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 3: I mean in practice, we're gonna go at it. Yeah, 129 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: Like that's that's that's what God is here being competitive 130 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, when we get those practices, 131 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: we're gonna go at it. Now. As far as like 132 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 3: the mix, I feel like we have a great mix 133 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 3: of young guys who are up and coming, but we 134 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: also we got the guys who we've seen be there before. 135 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: Like yeah, you know, for me, I'm excited to see 136 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 3: how Steph does because this is like his first Olympics. 137 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: MM So to say this is Stephen Curry's first Olympics 138 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: sounds crazy because it's like, bro, he was never a 139 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: part of a team. Like, but you know, I feel 140 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 3: like we got a great group of guys where we 141 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: mesh well, Like it's easy to have a conversation like, listen, 142 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: how do you want to get open? You know me 143 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 3: and I go if I get ten, ten and ten, 144 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: I'm not complaining because that's my job. I'm the versatile guy. 145 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 3: I'm not out here just to go shoot the ball 146 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: twenty five times. I'm out here to get ten rebounds. 147 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: Tennis is ten points off of you know, mistakes that 148 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: the defense made and then you know, you get to 149 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: fill out of there. But you know, I think we 150 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: have a good mix of guys where we can all 151 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 3: be put in different spots on the court, Like bron 152 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: doesn't have to be the three, and some lineups he 153 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: might be the point, and some lineups Stephen Curry might 154 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: beat it two. Like you got guys where you don't 155 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: necessarily have to put under a certain position. 156 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I want to talk about the finals because 157 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: you guys had a great season and I think a 158 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: lot of people say, you know, if not for injuries, 159 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: you guys could have been here. I mean, you were 160 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: there last year. So I want to talk to you 161 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: because I think John said this on a previous episode. 162 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: We'll gass you up a little bit here. John said 163 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: that reason why you're one of the best defensive players 164 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: in the NBAS because you can guard anyone. Now, I 165 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: think Luca and Kyrie Tatum and Jalen Brown. How how 166 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: would you approach, you know, playing against these guys in 167 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: this finals? 168 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: Oh man, you want to scout? 169 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: That's what we had you on. 170 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 3: Uh. I mean considering you know, I've been in the 171 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: playoffs a lot, Like they put a lot of teams 172 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: just put me in a strong side corner, so I 173 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: can't do nothing. So whoever I'm going and they just 174 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 3: be like, all right, just go to the strong side corner, 175 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: so you're not involved in any of the act. But 176 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you just gottafford and like, you can't technically 177 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 3: stop anybody in this league, you know, Like I said, 178 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: it's four hundred and fifty of us of the top players, 179 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: and only what thirty of them end up in the finals. 180 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: Fifteen on one side, fifty on the other. So you 181 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 3: just got to make dudes make difficult shots. That for 182 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: because you're talking about skill sets all over the world. 183 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: You're talking about Luca, you talking about Kyrie, You're talking 184 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: about JT, and then you talking about Jaylen Brown. Like 185 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,239 Speaker 3: for me, it's you just gotta make them make tough shots, 186 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 3: like and you just gotta live with that. Yeah, you can't. 187 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 3: You can't stop anybody in this league. Like it's literally 188 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: make or miss. But I'm gonna make you make this 189 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: tough shot. It's the it's the little things behind it. 190 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: Like some people don't like to work for the basketball. 191 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: See how I do when you make him work for it. 192 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: See if they want like just get off of it. 193 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: Some dudes when they get the rock in their hand, 194 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: they don't want to pass it because they like, I'm 195 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: the option, like you know, send a double when he 196 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: go to his movee and see what he do. So 197 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: it's like those type of mind games you gotta play 198 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: to to like make the officer player think because, like 199 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: I said, if you just let dudes get in their rhythm, 200 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: anybody in the NBA could get thirty forty. And then 201 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: if you've seen like dudes get in a great rhythm. 202 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: It's fifty sixty seven for a long night. Yeah, you 203 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: went for a long night when a dude or like 204 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: you never know dude might have a bad day. You 205 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: just so happened to be playing him that night. And 206 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: he ain't got nothing against you. It's just it's just 207 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: how I'm feeling to night. And you know, for that, 208 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 3: like I said, you just gotta make dudes take tough shots. 209 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 3: They make tough shots. You just gotta tip your hat 210 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: off and keep it pushing. 211 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: And that was me Caampaign. I was like, you're not 212 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 4: that you, my boy. 213 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: And I was saying this before, like I've seen you 214 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: switch out on anybody in guard. I've seen you not 215 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: have to switch out and chase off Penn Downs and 216 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: Guard and Tatum in the first round. And I was like, 217 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: that's the reason why you use my case for defensive 218 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: play year. But for you to get your first team 219 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: All ABA for the first time the last for you 220 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: a second team All second, second team All NBA, how 221 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: do you feel about that, finally getting over the hump 222 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: and coming first team All Defense? 223 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 3: Uh Man? 224 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 4: Because you probe yourself. 225 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, it's one of those things where you 226 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 3: can't you can't. You can't pick yourself. Like at the 227 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: end of the day, we're gonna know it's media pushed. 228 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: But for me to be first time all defense is 229 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: just you know, it's a blessing to do it in 230 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: a row, not even just you know, spontaneous, but be 231 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: able to say, like I've been in a defensive team 232 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 3: five years in a row, like a lot of dudes 233 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: can't say that, Like to be able to say I 234 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: was top five and dp O Wild voting five straight years. 235 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: You know. For me, obviously you're striving to get the war, 236 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: but I feel like I will get the ward at 237 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 3: some point, especially if you just keep stacking up uh 238 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 3: selections like that, you know, and then also like the 239 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 3: credit like players know, like it's not like they don't. 240 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: They don't, they don't know. So for me, it's a 241 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: blessing grateful. You know, it's not only me, but you know, 242 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: I always give thanks to my teammates because without them 243 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 3: there is no defensive team. This scheme that works. They 244 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: got don't want to listen to me, you know, they 245 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: got don't want to be able to trust that I'm 246 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: gonna help them. I gotta trust that they're gonna help me. 247 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 3: It ain't like dudes don't get beat. Uh, But you know, 248 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: like I said, to be able to be recognized and 249 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 3: you know, have that jersey on, and we pride ourselves 250 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 3: on that. You know, it's one of those things where 251 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 3: it's a it's an accolade to be proud of. 252 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that goes into my next question. 253 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: I want to ask, like, what do the what do 254 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: the Miami We'll like talk about the Miami Heat coaching 255 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 2: because like you just said, it's a bride thing. It's 256 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: something that y'all believe in and we've been hearing about 257 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: it for so many years. But I don't think a 258 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: lot of people understand and respect what it is until 259 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: you step inside there locker room and put on one 260 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: of y'all jerseys. Like what makes it so special to 261 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 2: you into the other fourteen guys you compete with and 262 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: your coaching staff. 263 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: To me, man, it's just a it's a standard like 264 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 3: it like people try to like make up these these 265 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: myths and ship like that. The biggest thing I can 266 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: say about it is just it's a standard. Like you know, 267 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 3: every two every year, Spoke comes in. It's like this 268 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: is what we this is what we're trying to get. 269 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: We're trying to you're trying to get the trophy, sixteen wins, 270 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: whatever that may be. But it's a standard because every 271 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: day our walks in and challenges us. Every day walks in, 272 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 3: it's like you're gonna be prepared for what's about to 273 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: happen in this season. And that doesn't necessarily mean like 274 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: you're gonna execute, but it's the standard of always having 275 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: to be that way, having to come in there and 276 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: really locking every day to the point where, like you 277 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: get in the playoffs, it's it's second nature, like you 278 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: don't got to go over scout as much because you've 279 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: already prepared, you know what, you know what's going to happen, 280 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: like you you know what, you know what's happening when 281 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: you walk in. And then obviously the standard of being prepared, 282 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: but the work, like like we not for everybody, Like 283 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: some some people just mentally can't can't do that every day. 284 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: They mentally can't lock in every day. And you know, 285 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 3: it is what it is, and we understand that, you know, 286 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 3: and that's why a lot of guys don't come here 287 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 3: because they you know, they always be like man, y'all 288 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: y'all do too much just that a third, but you 289 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: know a lot of y'all be sitting home while we 290 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: being yeah, like it's dope. I'm not saying it's a 291 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: mind game, but it's just it's just a standard, like 292 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: what standard do you want for yourself? What STANMD do 293 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: you want for your team? At the end of the day, 294 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: we all want to win. So what you're willing to do, 295 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: Like you ain't willing to play defense, you might as 296 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: well go and sit over there on the sideline because 297 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: you ain't. You ain't willing to really put yourself out 298 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: there and withhold that standard. 299 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: Well, so you also went to Kentucky with John So 300 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: I guess what what's the difference in similarities with you know, 301 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: Kentucky as a program in Miami as a program. Uh. 302 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 3: I would say the similarity is just one competing in practice, 303 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: like like it's a real game. Like when we practice, 304 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: we're going at it, like are you in cursing each 305 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: other around like trying to win? Like that was us 306 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: in college. So that was just like a normal feel 307 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: for me. And then obviously, like I said, like getting 308 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: the work in like everybody and on our on our 309 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: staff and the players were all in the gym, you know. 310 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: Like it's funny because sometimes some days I'll be in 311 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: the weight room, you know, lifing with Spoke, Like it's 312 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: just like it's that standard up. We all want to 313 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 3: be better. So like in order to do that, we 314 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: all got to represent that. So Spoke Spoke get his 315 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 3: workouts in, you know, the assistant coaches get their work out, 316 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: and we get our work out in. We get our 317 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: work done. But you know and officly behind the scenes 318 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: like watching film, uh, you know, discussing schemes like being 319 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: able to do all that. That's what that like. That 320 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 3: was the the similarities to me because it was just 321 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it's about one thing 322 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: is working like work, that's it. Yeah. 323 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: I think if you, like you said, you seen your 324 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 2: coach work out, you've got to work out like you 325 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: ain't really in second fight and you really ain't turned 326 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: nothing here. But I think like the league has changed 327 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: so much from twenty ten when I came into where 328 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: we used to practice three hours or we used to 329 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 2: have to come in and get our work and then 330 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 2: go play games. It's like now a lot of teams 331 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: that go the other way, like they're trying to reserve energy, 332 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 2: reserved bodies, like go thirty minutes, forty five minutes. I'm like, 333 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: you'a ultimate goal now the championship at the end, you're 334 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: not locked in, you're not focused. So to understand what 335 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 2: y'all coach is and that's I heard. That's been like 336 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 2: that since training camp, like from day one, you got 337 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: no choice but the body. And that's why you see 338 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: certain guys that you like, Well, he don't belong in 339 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: the lead or how is he how is his role 340 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: so good over here, but wasn't good on this team 341 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: because he's willing to fit in and do the little 342 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: things that people don't go un notice on the stat sheet. 343 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: And the thing about it it is like you know, 344 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: and this is why I give coaches credit, Like coach 345 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 3: has done a lot of work with undrafted guys, like 346 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 3: you know, fitting them into a to a scheme, fitting 347 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 3: them into personnel where they can be comfortable. Because at 348 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 3: the end of the day, you need everybody on the 349 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: roster to win the championship. We don't go on those 350 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 3: runs to the finals, you know, just by two players, 351 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: Like you know, our undrafted guys had big moments in 352 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: the playoffs, for us. You know, some guys everybody be like, 353 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 3: who the fuck is this A. 354 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 4: Lot of time for sure, where. 355 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: They'd be like where he come from, who's this? Who's that? Like? Well, 356 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: like how he was over here and he was at 357 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 3: the end of the bench. But y'all got even. You know, 358 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 3: Spoke does a great job of, you know, when guys 359 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: get out there playing towards their strengths. If you're a defender, 360 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 3: all right, if you play the winger, you are defender. 361 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 3: We probably gonna pick up ninety four feet. That's his outlet. 362 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 3: That's how that's how he that's how he gonna earn 363 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 3: his money in this league. He had defender, We're gonna 364 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 3: make it. We're gonna let him defend. Go do you. 365 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: But it's one of those things where you know, he's 366 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: done a great job of putting guys in situations to 367 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 3: be successful. And also, like I said, the work that 368 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: goes on behind the scenes that people don't see, Like, 369 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: you know, guys guys being there practices at eleven, guys 370 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 3: being there at nine thirty getting treatment on the court 371 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: front hour, and then after practice get done there on 372 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: the court for another hour. Like those are the habits 373 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: and the routine that you build throughout the season and 374 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: where when you get to the playoffs, your body's been 375 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: through enough stress where it's comfortable being uncomfortable, right. And 376 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 3: that's the thing that I think a lot of people 377 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 3: and players don't understand. Like, you know, you try to, 378 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 3: you know, you want go as hard as your workouts, 379 00:19:55,320 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 3: or you don't go hard, and you practice because you 380 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 3: know you're trying to. You know, I don't want to 381 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: do too much. And then we get in the playoffs 382 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 3: and it's and it's all hell on unleashed and you 383 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: gotta go there. It's like some dudes like not mentally, 384 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 3: but like they body just physically. You ain't never been there, 385 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: so your body just it shocks itself. So you know, 386 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 3: for us man being able to put your body through that, 387 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 3: and then you get to the playoffs, you know some 388 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: people might be like damn, like, you know, my body 389 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: feel kind of tired. But once you getting once you 390 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 3: get in the game, you forget about all that, all right. 391 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: So go talking a little bit about Kentucky here and 392 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to start anything, but we were thinking 393 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: if there was two on two, you and de Aaron 394 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: Fox versus John and boogie. I would say best of 395 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: five series, first one of three, who's winning. 396 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna say uh, I'm gonna say uh yeah. 397 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say that it's supposed to. It's supposed to. 398 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 3: That's a that's a that's a competitor, bro. Like I 399 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 3: would not expecting them to say us. I'd be like, what, 400 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: that's not a bit John though. Whenever we whenever we 401 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 3: getting in between them lines and it's five on the wild, 402 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: don't matter if it's pick up, it's shooting. It could be. 403 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 4: Man, we talking trash all the time. 404 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: We walk back and forth, but that's the only way 405 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: you can play, Like, I don't know, and that's why 406 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: I'll be saying. 407 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying. 408 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 2: Be like the league now, it's like everybody getting they 409 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: want to be buddy buddy man like you might got before. 410 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 2: But when I put them in the jersey and jump 411 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: ball go, I talk to you after the game like 412 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 2: you might talk a little trash in the game, but 413 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: I'm trying to win. 414 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 3: And that's the thing that's funny because like the difference 415 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 3: between to me, between the old NBA and this NBA 416 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 3: is the old NBA. They didn't have a U camps, 417 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 3: they didn't have all this you know, these events where 418 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 3: they you know, seeing each other. You didn't have social 419 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 3: media at the time, so like you didn't really like 420 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 3: develop a bond with anybody. For the newer generation like 421 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 3: us like me JT. Donner like and Dearren Fox like, well, 422 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 3: my whole draft class honestly the top my whole the 423 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: lottery in my draft class. We've known each other since twelve. Yeah, 424 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 3: Like that's the type of like, that's the type of 425 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: connection we have. But it's funny because like you know, 426 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 3: the fans will see you after the game, that of them, 427 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 3: they be like, oh, fuck him, you know, do this, 428 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 3: don't talk there. It's like they don't understand. It's like 429 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 3: when you get on the court against your homeboy or 430 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: one of your homies, best friend, whatever the case may be, 431 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 3: I'm trying to rip the life out of your head off. 432 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 3: Like we going on this court and we step in 433 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 3: between those lines and you got on that different jersey. No, 434 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: I want to beat you by fifty because then after 435 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: the game, when I beat you by I'm gonna talk 436 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: shit about it. I'm gonna sit it in the group chat, 437 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: like I'm gonna let you know like shit like like 438 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 3: I just beat your ass, Like that's the type of 439 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 3: that's the type of generation for me, Like that's just me, 440 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 3: Like I don't know I was. What for for me 441 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 3: was when I yeah, like. 442 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 4: When I see Dn, I used to coldn't wait to 443 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 4: see him, bro. 444 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: I like, listen, every time we go to Sacramento and 445 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: Darren Fox is on that court, I'm trying to beat 446 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 3: you by thirty. 447 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: Because and because Malik on that team. Two of y'all 448 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: allways together, So I know you're definitely gonna ask. 449 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: You in because because I get to talk my ship. 450 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 3: When I beat you all, ass, I was a third 451 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 3: option that can took you. Now now it's different. I 452 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: don't beat you'all ass. Let's keep it pushing. Y'all can't 453 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 3: guard me down there. 454 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: Well, So so bam, it's been You've played with Jason 455 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: Tatum on every level, so you guys are friends. What 456 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: was it like during the finals, Like was it heated? 457 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: And then how long did it take to like for 458 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: you guys to make contact after the finals and be 459 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: like yo, we're good. 460 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: Or you know the first round? 461 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: No, well, I would say I would say last year 462 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: after last year's finals. 463 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 3: Oh damn. 464 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, I'm talking my shit. 465 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 3: As soon as the buzzer go yeah, yeah, I'm not playing. 466 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: But like we've competed so much, you know, like you said, 467 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: throughout the years, so you know, being in the same conference, 468 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 3: at some point, we always end up seeing each other. Yeah, 469 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: at the end of the year. I don't know why. 470 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: I don't know why it's written like that, but a 471 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 3: lot of times we end up seeing each other at 472 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 3: the end of the year. And it's one of those 473 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 3: ones where I'm not talking to you during that whole series. 474 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 3: Soon as that buzzer get off and it's win or lose, 475 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 3: you know, then it's high family, you know, how everybody doing. 476 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: But like when we're playing Boston and little Deuce be 477 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 3: over there waving and shit like that, I don't not 478 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: edge that little man. Soon as that series over, you know, 479 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 3: you see it go over there. How the kids go 480 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: talk to his mom, you know, because that's family. But 481 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, like we are here 482 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 3: to compete, I'm not here to be friends with you 483 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: right now, Like in the summer, we can be boys. Cool, 484 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 3: that's my man's one hundred grand you know, but when 485 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 3: we get between them lines, nah, I'm trying to rip 486 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: your head off. I'm trying to rip your head off. 487 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what you think the next chapter looked like 488 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: for Kentucky and we're coach Kyle going to Arkansas. Uh case, 489 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: I know everybody be asked you like, are you gonna 490 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: still support them? 491 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 4: You know you're gonna support them? Why you're gonna support. 492 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest. I didn't go to Kentucky for Kentucky. 493 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: That just wasn't that. I didn't go because I was like, dang, 494 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: they you know this is a great this is a 495 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 3: great school. Like I can really, I can really get 496 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 3: used to being here. That man told me, listen, you 497 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 3: do what you supposed to doing a much, you ain't 498 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: gonna be here. Like that's the one thing I really 499 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 3: respected about him, Like Kyle and you know kph Uncle, 500 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 3: like they was always honest with me. Kyle told me like, 501 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: you're not coming here and you're not if you don't perform, 502 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: you're not gonna play like I'm not giving you no spot. 503 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 3: You're gonna have to earn it in practice. And from 504 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 3: that point on, like I respected that so much because 505 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 3: you you didn't come to me like some college coaches 506 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 3: be like, man, you're gonna start. We're gonna do this 507 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: around you. We're gonna form this around you. And it's 508 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 3: like yeah, nah, because everybody, you know, when you go 509 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 3: from hot high school to college, that's a different brand 510 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: of black basketball. You know, you're playing against dudes that's 511 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 3: been living for four years like that they've got they've 512 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: gotten used to the college game, so they know the 513 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: ends and outs. And for him to look at me 514 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: in my face as a top recruit and be like look, man, like, listen, 515 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 3: you're not I'm not guaranteeing you anything. You're gonna have 516 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 3: to earn all of this. I respected that because I 517 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 3: wanted to earn it anyway. You know. You know, if 518 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 3: you if you're giving something, it's not as it doesn't 519 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 3: feel as cherished like the fact that you earned something 520 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: in life. You cherish it more because it's like, nah, 521 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 3: I went through hell to get that, Like like it 522 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 3: was sleepless night in college where I'd be like, man like, listen, bro, 523 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 3: like do I really want to do this shit? 524 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 4: Like question yourself, like did I pick the right school? 525 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: Did I pick the right situation for me? Like I 526 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 3: remember like, and I can tell y'all a little story 527 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 3: like I isn't coach Kenny Payne. That's that's that's big. 528 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 3: Unc uh. Yeah. We were practiced for like, you know, 529 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 3: like two hours, two three hours, and then I'll be 530 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: about to go to bed and he'll text me and 531 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 3: be like meet me and gym at ten fifty. And 532 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: it'd be like ten thirty and I'd be like, are 533 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 3: you like and then you walk in, you walk in 534 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 3: and the treadmill running. No, it was like the mental 535 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 3: games like that they would play like it was like bro, 536 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 3: like do I really want to do this shit? Like 537 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 3: is the NBA really like this? Like the dudes really 538 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 3: go through this. But it was more so like prepping 539 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 3: you for whatever might happen, Like you don't know what 540 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 3: can happen when you get out of college. You might 541 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: go overseas, you might go to the NBA, you might 542 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 3: start overseas and go to the NBA. You might start 543 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: in the NBA and go overseas. Like it was being 544 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: ready for whatever moment was presented to you. And you know, 545 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: to have that type of coaching staffs where it was 546 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 3: like I'm not only preparing you to be a basketball player. 547 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 3: I'm preparing you to be a man when you walk 548 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 3: out of here, like like you're gonna walk in as 549 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: a boy and then leave as a man, because at 550 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: the end of the day, you go to the NBA, 551 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: you gotta learn how to how to maneuver. You got 552 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 3: to learn how to put yourself on the schedule. Like 553 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 3: you know, when you in college, they make your schedule 554 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: for you. In the NBA, they're not making your schedule. 555 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: They telling you practice is that team? So what that 556 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: means you gotta figure out how how long it take 557 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: to get there. You gotta prep for the drive, You 558 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 3: gotta prep for the walk, however you think about it. 559 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: And then like you gotta prep yourself to understand schedule, 560 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 3: like you you gotta understand like you're not dealing with 561 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 3: you know, the college advisors no more that make your schedule, 562 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: that check on you in class to see if you 563 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: there ain't none of that happening it if you don't 564 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 3: show up to practice and they be like, why you 565 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: ain't show up and you ain't got no reason, pink 566 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 3: slip on your locker, that's a fine, my boy. 567 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: There or might or they might just say it. You 568 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: might get your check and like why I got this 569 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: this money mission like. 570 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: You look you look at you start talking to your 571 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 3: money man, Gene, like man, like my check was supposed 572 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: to be this, and he was like, well, like you 573 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 3: this got deducted, This got deducted. This got And you 574 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 3: go to the coach and he's gonna be like, well, 575 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 3: you misshoot around this time, you misspracticed this time, you 576 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 3: showed up late for this event. You showed up late 577 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 3: for this, and it's like that's what they was trying 578 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: to teach you. Like even though through all the ship 579 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 3: that she was like, man, they crazy, bro, I ain't 580 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 3: this ain't nothing like that. It taught you how to 581 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 3: be a man, taught you. It taught you how to 582 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: like develop thick skin. Because you don't know what coach 583 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 3: you getting in the NBA, right, You just know you're 584 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 3: gonna get drafted wherever that might be. You don't know 585 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 3: I got drafted to Miami Heat. First thing people think 586 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: about is Pat Rightley. You don't know what about that? Yeah? 587 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 3: You don't like everybody talking about Godfather pat Riley. So like, 588 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 3: first thing I'm thinking about, like damn, like what's gonna happen? 589 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 3: Like I walk in my my treat pre draft, I'm 590 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 3: finna talk to him. It's the it's the you know, 591 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 3: the Godfather. Shit, the one lamb and all the other 592 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 3: lights is off. This man, this man probably got like 593 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 3: eight windows in his office, all the blinds is closed. 594 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: Damn like one lamp and we're gonna sit here and 595 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: have a conversation like this, and you know, you walk in, 596 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: You're like, damn, like he really on this ship? 597 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: So how did that go? Were you nervous? Were you 598 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: like talking a different way? 599 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I was nervous. 600 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: Do you think he saw anything in your answers? Or 601 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 1: was it just like this dude's a hooper? 602 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: For me? I think it was. It wasn't because I 603 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: was the most skilled. It was just more so like 604 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 3: I had the dog in me because during my pre 605 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 3: draft workout, they was they was trying to see how 606 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 3: versatile I am, so like, can you guard one through five? 607 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 3: So in my pre draft workout, it was a big me. 608 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: It's a point guard in the shooting guard. So we'll 609 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 3: play two on two and then they'll just drop the 610 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 3: ball and be like, all right, six seconds on the clock, 611 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: bam guard en. So I realized what they're doing, and 612 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 3: I think this really got picked. First of all, it's 613 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 3: crazy because I feel like anybody else would be like 614 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 3: nah here in that case. So I'm getting I'm getting stops. 615 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 3: So about after like the fourth stop, you know, the 616 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 3: ball go over there and roll over there by the 617 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 3: by the table, the little table, they say that, and 618 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 3: you know me, y'all got me fucked up, like y'all 619 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 3: testing me, Like this is really not me. Y'all got 620 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: me fucked up. So and then and from that point on, 621 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: h like it was like Pat was like that's our guy. Yeah, 622 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: they got you got me drafted right there. And that's 623 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 3: the thing I tell people, like you don't know what's 624 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 3: gonna get you drafted. Like, but I knew in my 625 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 3: draft workouts. I never wanted to do one of old 626 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 3: draft workouts because I was like, that's not how people 627 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: are gonna pick me, because I'm not that's not me. 628 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: You know. At that time, I was like, man, I 629 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 3: can't make ten out of twelve jumpers. No, let's let's 630 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 3: get out here and who I'm gonna show you why 631 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 3: we get out here in between these lines and we 632 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 3: get to compete. That's why I am because that's when 633 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 3: it brings out who I am. I'm versatile. 634 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 4: Man, Hey, did y'all do twenty suicides in twenty minutes? 635 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 3: I mean technically, yes. 636 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 4: Bro, I promise you. I'm'll take you. 637 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 3: Bro. 638 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: My first day there, I went to score it like 639 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: one sixty five. Anyway, soaking with I was skinny of 640 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: the two things, so I'm not missing those lifts all summer. 641 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: So we got to be on the line at six ams, 642 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: so we get at like five forty five. So y'all 643 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 2: twenty minion guards gotta finish. You probably have been in 644 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: the guard though, because you was versal. You probably finished 645 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 2: like twenty eight thirty seconds. The last thirty second. You 646 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 2: get the rest, Bro, we get the team. I'm all right, dude, 647 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 2: we get a break. Like now y'all got ten more 648 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: the last team that you gotta go baseline, the baseline, 649 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: the long way, shit, Bro. 650 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 4: I got back to my dumb call, MA said, mon, 651 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 4: I think I picked the on scool man. 652 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 3: Listen, Nah, listen. So this is the mental hurd that 653 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 3: we used to deal with. So we would walk in 654 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 3: and you know, they split pigs and guards as individuals, 655 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 3: so save for example, we could all be walking in. 656 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 3: You know how we all were all flowing to practice 657 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 3: a different time, you know, different mobility. So KP used 658 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 3: to look at us and be like, before we even start, 659 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 3: he'd be like, y'all got a seventeen and we'd be like, wow. 660 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 3: He was like, because he walked in last. We'd be like, 661 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 3: huh he walked in last. We got a seventeen. And 662 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 3: we'd be seeing the guards over there shooting bullshit and 663 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 3: we be like, d you're making us run because this 664 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 3: man walked in last. Come on, bro, Like what were 665 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 3: we doing? Like like, we'll walk in. We'll be in 666 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 3: the middle of working out an individual and safe for example, 667 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: like somebody airball, get on the line, got a suicide. 668 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: We be like and this would be like a walk on. 669 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 3: This would be like a walk on. He'd be like, yeah, 670 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 3: they just chill, like bro, like he was the mental 671 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 3: hurdle of going through that every day. Well, I would 672 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 3: be like, come on, man, like you just you just 673 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 3: making stuff up just for us to run, Like you 674 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 3: just want to see us run. And he used to 675 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 3: always be like, Nope, we need everybody on the team. 676 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 3: If he airball, what if you got to get put 677 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 3: in the game and he airballed in what you're gonna say, 678 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 3: You're gonna blame me, And I was like, yeah, because 679 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 3: he probably tried to take the shot. 680 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 4: But that's a fact or if he airballed the fuck 681 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 4: in the game. We can't run those suicide to do it. 682 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 3: Get back, listen, listen, you just be like, man, just 683 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 3: let me hit the rim, Like like, just let me 684 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 3: hit the rim. And then you missed three four in 685 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 3: a row. You got a suicide Like it was crazy 686 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 3: stuff we would have to run for bam. 687 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: I want to use my last question here about your 688 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: teammate Jimmy Butler, one of the most interesting dudes in 689 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: the NBA. We've seen the hair, we seen the coffee stuff, 690 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: we've seen the music videos. Is there a hilarious Jimmy 691 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: Butler story that we haven't seen that you can tell 692 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: us as his teammate. 693 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 3: Big face coffee started as a joke. 694 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: Well, okay, so how did that start then? 695 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 3: In the bubble? Uh, I don't know what made him 696 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 3: get fascinated with coffee at that time. That was like 697 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 3: our first year getting to know each other, so it 698 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 3: was fresh, so I didn't know he really loved coffee 699 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 3: like that. But you know, in the bubble, you had 700 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 3: you had your your little sweep. So he thought as 701 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 3: a joke, like I'm musa sell coffee because at the time, like, 702 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 3: won't nobody doing nothing in the bubble but working out, 703 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 3: playing game and then you would have all day because 704 00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 3: it wasn't like you was thirty forty minutes away from 705 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 3: the reason. It was a ten minute drive to go 706 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 3: to gym to play games and then you went downstairs 707 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 3: to the ballroom to get up shots. So it wasn't 708 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 3: like you had a lot of time to do anything else. 709 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 3: And we ain't have family, so it was literally just us. 710 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 3: So I think that's funny because it just started as 711 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 3: a joke, like he put on a hanger outside his 712 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 3: door coffee coffee ten dollars as smallest ten dollars, the 713 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 3: medium is like twenty dollars and the big coffee is 714 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 3: thirty to the point, like you know, we all laughing 715 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 3: about it, but to the point we got out the bubble. 716 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 3: And then like he started, like it started with big 717 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 3: Face coffee, then it started finding his logo, then he 718 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 3: got the clothing line, and it was like I was like, bro, 719 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 3: you really turned a joke in a sense to an 720 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 3: actual business. So that was one of my stories. Big 721 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 3: Face Coffee started as a joke in Bubble because he 722 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 3: was competing against one of our trainers that called himself 723 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 3: little face cough. 724 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: That's great, all right, Well, both of you guys give 725 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: your predictions on the finals before we close out. Who 726 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 1: you guys got something from mass? 727 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 3: I think this my Boston. I'm gonna say Dallas. Wow. 728 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 3: Only reason i say Dallas is because I feel like 729 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 3: that man Kyrie Irvan has a bonus pick for sure. 730 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 731 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 3: Like I said, when you get in certain atmospheres where 732 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 3: you feel like people didn't understand you, or situations happened 733 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 3: and you couldn't really explain like behind the scenes, and 734 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 3: you got all the fans like playing into that. Like 735 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 3: you saw like how he got treated when he left. 736 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 3: You saw how he got treated when he would come 737 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 3: back and play against Boston. So like for me, like 738 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 3: you know that man untapped in you know he he's 739 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 3: a peaceful man at this point when he walking that arena, 740 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 3: I feel like we're gonna see a different Kyrie Irvan 741 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 3: like hated for whoever got to take. And that's my 742 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,280 Speaker 3: point because like I said, when when when talented dudes 743 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 3: and skilled dudes like that tap in today their ability 744 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 3: or they just really got a point to prove it. 745 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 3: It's like no other because I think on both teams, 746 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 3: he's the only one that's won it. 747 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 4: Him and Drew the only one that won it. But 748 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 4: he had a bigger rule. 749 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so he going. 750 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 2: He's hit He's hit big shots in that situation. He's 751 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 2: had forty point games back to back when they needed 752 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 2: it down three to one. 753 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 3: Like yeah, so that's the thing that scared me. 754 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 2: That's the matter that scared me out all of them. 755 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 3: Like I said, you can't do nothing with Like I said, man, 756 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 3: when when when dudes tap in. I feel like he was. 757 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 3: He was disrespected, you know, the fans. You know, I 758 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 3: felt like he was slighted by the organization in a sense. 759 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 3: Like I feel like that's what he's about to tap into. 760 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 3: Like he's about it's like he might sage the court again. 761 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 4: I already said that. 762 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 3: About to save the court again. You know, people jumped 763 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 3: on on for like you know what he did with 764 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 3: to the to the to the Leprechaun or whatever that is. 765 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 3: Have court. But you know, I feel like he's gonna 766 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 3: tap into a different mode and it's gonna be a 767 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 3: mode like we've seen him, you know, be Kyrie through 768 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 3: these playoffs. But I think y'all about to be like, no, 769 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 3: that's Kyrie irving, Like that's that's that urving guy we 770 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 3: we be talking about. 771 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this series. 772 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 2: I think this series, he ain't gonna be like you know, 773 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 2: like he might have a good first halving crew the 774 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 2: second and have okay first and crew to having second. 775 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 2: I think the whole game is gonna be like that Kyrie. 776 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 2: Like I'm not easing into nothing as. 777 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 3: Whole for the unt least the whole bag. 778 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to You got too much because you. 779 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 3: Got to think about it, doll, Like, nobody wants to 780 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 3: get that far and I've been a part of it twice. 781 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 3: Nobody wants to get that far to lose, Like so, 782 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 3: but is man to it took him seven years to 783 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 3: get back there, and he know what it takes to win. 784 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, And then he played. 785 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 2: Against Boston, you know that, And on top of that 786 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: that burden with like everybody like he can't win without Bron, 787 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 2: he can't get back there without Bron, Like it's so 788 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 2: much he got fewered us right now. 789 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 3: It's like this release that he could just go back 790 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 3: and read and it's gonuse gonna make his blood bully. 791 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's no bigger shot that you got to 792 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: hit than that one that he hit in Game seven already, 793 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: so everything is no. 794 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: You know that that might be the biggest shot in history, 795 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 2: Bro Bron, Bron, don't leave Cleveland, Ma Bron said, I 796 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 2: don't leave unless I want to championed himself. If you 797 00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 2: don't make that shot, he don't leave. 798 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 3: Cleveland, right Listen, people don't understand. I was doing a 799 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 3: little event today and they asked me about my North 800 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 3: Carolina chain. I was like, people don't understand. We call 801 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 3: it the Hoo State. We I feel like we got 802 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 3: some of the top hoopers that ever come out of 803 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 3: North Carolina and being yeah, so so for me, like 804 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 3: anybody who really came out of North Carolina. I mean 805 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 3: John was like the first that was the Who mixtape, 806 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 3: like the ball is life so fall us in North 807 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 3: Carolina growing up, we knew who John Wall. We was like, nah, bro, 808 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 3: John Wall is like the front tier for North Carolina 809 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 3: right now, Like when he went to Kentucky, I tuned 810 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 3: in every game I ain't care who else was playing. 811 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 3: Is John wall on the John wall On the like 812 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 3: it was kind of like an all moment for me 813 00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 3: when I got in the NBA and I got the 814 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 3: against the Wizards, because like everybody was talking about like 815 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 3: his patent and move where he looked this way for 816 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 3: about an hour and then it was a reject and 817 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 3: it was two dribbles and a dunk like like like 818 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 3: those were the and then obviously, you know, you go what. 819 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 3: I still say he got one of the great the 820 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 3: greatest him and Austin Rivers. I feel like he John 821 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 3: number one is Austin Rivers right there with with the 822 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 3: top two who mixed and then you got seven Woods. 823 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 3: But seven Woods is great, but they don't really know 824 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 3: about him. B They don't really know too much about him. 825 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 3: He was like in seventh grade. He was the fakest 826 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 3: seventh grade Listen, bro That was my teammate dog Listen, listen, listen. 827 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 3: My AAU team. I probably had one of the greatest 828 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 3: AA teams that come out of North Carolina. It was 829 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 3: me seven Woods, Quay Parker, Like, well, you played. 830 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 2: With some of the most athletic motherfucker because you got 831 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 2: Dinnis here. 832 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 3: And then you add Dennis to that. Listen. 833 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 4: I wouldn't go see them play together, all right, they 834 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 4: was on that fucking rim listen. 835 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 3: Listen. It didn't matter who we played because the other thing, 836 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 3: like we was all two way players, so like we'll 837 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 3: lock your ass up, talk shit, and then go beat 838 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 3: you by fifty and it didn't matter. Like if we 839 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 3: had a mismatch, it'd be like, nah, five out, just 840 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 3: getting the ball. Everybody get off the way. Now that's 841 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 3: how we brought It was no play call. It was literally, no, 842 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 3: we're about to use our talent because you you like 843 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 3: we was. We was thirteen fourteen, like playing seventeen you 844 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 3: beating the shit out of people. 845 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: Seventh the Woods was hitting shots from behind the hoop. 846 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: I remember watching that and being like that's the most 847 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: unbelievable shit you ever seen, Like, bro, like overseas now. 848 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 3: Right he yeah, I think he's overseas. 849 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 2: Still following, Hey you go, do you go? Hey, do 850 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 2: you go to AU tournament? M B, No, it's not 851 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 2: to These motherfuckers got real plays, bro, Like they really 852 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 2: got real plays. This was an indie right for the 853 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,720 Speaker 2: E Y B l B. They really got real schemes. 854 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 2: Officially offense. I'm like, bro, what the fuck is aun? 855 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 2: Then like we just see each other on the weekends. 856 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 4: We might go do some stuff. Man, see you on Friday. 857 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,839 Speaker 3: We're going to listen. Listen. When we used to get 858 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 3: ready for like Nationals, our coach, we were practiced for 859 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 3: a week and then it was Nationals, like like there 860 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 3: was no trying to get schemes on the team, Like 861 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,280 Speaker 3: our coaches will go like watch other the other teams 862 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 3: play if they want, but like nah, it was like 863 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 3: it's just jo five against ours who got the best team? 864 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 3: And I'm talking about like and that's before like I 865 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 3: ain't gonna lie. I felt like I sucked at that time. 866 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 3: I was just I was just a big man. That 867 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 3: was just after that it could run and done. 868 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 4: And that's all you needed to do. 869 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 3: Listen. And then when my offensive game caught up, it's 870 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 3: a rap. Could you imagine that we reassembled like our 871 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 3: AU teams? 872 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all be my age. My eight team is cool. 873 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,919 Speaker 3: It was just me, JT. Terrell and Ryan Kelly Forrell. 874 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 3: This is all we had. Listen. J. T. Terrell was 875 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 3: so cold when we were. 876 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 2: Younger, Shoot that bitch from hell. 877 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 4: It would and shoot high as hell. 878 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. At this point any of the podcast, we just 879 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 3: have a normal conversation. He's trying to kick us. She's 880 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 3: trying to kick me off, bro. So I'm gonna go 881 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 3: and get out of here. She she wanted to All right, 882 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 3: b I s tomorrow. Hi right, buddy. 883 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back to point Game of John Wallings c J Toldonna, 884 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: presented by DraftKings. It is now time for Bucket Brick. 885 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 1: As a reminder, Bucketer Brick is brought to you by 886 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: Draft Kings Sportsbook. Draftking Sportsbook is your home for all 887 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: things NBA action, from player props, the same game parlays, 888 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: check out everything DraftKings sports Book has to offer to 889 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 1: make your NBA experience even sweeter. The crown is yours. John, 890 00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,919 Speaker 1: You're ready for bucket brick? 891 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, certastly, all right, let's do it. 892 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: So we talked about this in our band interview. But 893 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: the Celtics are the favorites to win the title at 894 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 1: minus two ten, meaning you need a bet to ten 895 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 1: to win one hundred. So John and I know you're 896 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: gonna say that, bucket, but bucket or break, the Celtics 897 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 1: will win the NBA title and what so give us 898 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 1: a little bit more context on why you think that. 899 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 2: Oh, I say Bucket, and I just feel like it's 900 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 2: the year. Like I feel like they have to win 901 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 2: this year. I mean where Brazilians come back, hell that 902 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 2: they have to. I think if they don't win it, 903 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 2: they probably try to break that team up. I mean, 904 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 2: like they've been so close by East Commage Finals, East Final, 905 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 2: the East Finals and they finally got out the hump 906 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 2: and I think twenty twenty two and loss to the Warriors, 907 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 2: and then I think last year they could have got back, 908 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 2: but I mean tending by her first player games, having 909 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 2: the Miami that win it and going to the finals. 910 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 4: So I feel like it's they time. 911 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 2: But it's gonna be a tough battle though, you know, 912 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 2: I mean because like we were saying before, like Luca's 913 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 2: been on the hell of a run and we know 914 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 2: what Kyri Ervan and how much history is behind this, 915 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 2: about what went on in Boston when he was not 916 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 2: any of the way he wanted and I feel like 917 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 2: he was welcome or respected the way he thought. 918 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 4: So I think it'll be a tough one. But I 919 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 4: take the Celtics. 920 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: Who do you think is gonna get finals? MVP of that. 921 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 2: From that they said him, I feel like I'm out 922 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 2: like for me, like last years, I said, Jacon Tatum 923 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 2: could have got it in you know, I mean, because 924 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 2: he's still average like thirty something, ten and eight. But 925 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 2: I was happy that Jlen Brown got it because he's 926 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 2: had a hell of a season two also, and like 927 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,720 Speaker 2: you said, he kind of flying on the radar. Nobody 928 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 2: really they give him his credit but not enough credit. 929 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 2: And because they have so much of a complete team, 930 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 2: and I feel like he could have been on RMBA also, 931 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 2: So I feel like it was good for him to 932 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 2: get that, and it kind of boots this compents even 933 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 2: more to feel like, you know who I am. 934 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 4: Recognizing this league. 935 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 2: I'm not always the one getting up behind because sometimes 936 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 2: it goes like them you have another superstar star in 937 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 2: front of you, like Tatum is. 938 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean, if anyone's been watching since the 939 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 1: start of this show, you were called. You were saying 940 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: Celtics had this since February, So we're about to see 941 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: all right, second one here, the over under for Luka 942 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: Doncic game one points is now thirty one point five, 943 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 1: So bucket or brick, Luka Doncic will score over thirty 944 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,399 Speaker 1: one points in game one over. 945 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 2: I don't think he going under if he don't want 946 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 2: even if he tried to go under is not. 947 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 4: I feel like the only way he goes under. It 948 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 4: was like a blowout early on. 949 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 2: But the way he's been playing man, the rhythm he's in, 950 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,839 Speaker 2: the flow he's in Man, and the way he got 951 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 2: his guys playing, uh, he's no. You really can do 952 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 2: with him. Like dam said before, you just got to 953 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 2: be able to play great deepen and make him make 954 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 2: touch shots all night, trying to put him on the 955 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 2: free throw line as much as possible. But those guys 956 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 2: are so talented gift, there's no way of stopping him. 957 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:26,919 Speaker 2: You just try to make it tough. 958 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just I'm so it's gonna be an offensive 959 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 1: masterclass Luca and Kyrie in the final. 960 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 2: You might get the best going you ever seen the 961 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 2: finals because you got four guys that can create at 962 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 2: the highest level. I mean usually have like one or 963 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 2: two guys that can score like that. You got four 964 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 2: guys and two on each shot that can score that 965 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:42,720 Speaker 2: type of clip. 966 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 3: It's crazy, all right. 967 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: Moving on, So, actually, there was a Jabbari Parker clip 968 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: that came out he was interviewed overseas super emotional. It 969 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,399 Speaker 1: was sort of taken out of context at first, later 970 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: came out you know that it was just an amount 971 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: of gratitude that he felt in that moment and for 972 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 1: his experience. So I want to ask you, because we 973 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: also saw boogie just when you know, the Overseas Championship, 974 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 1: the league he was playing in, bucket or brick. Playing 975 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: overseas is harder than people think just based on the story. 976 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 2: But I say bucket because I've always heard like you 977 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 2: know what I mean, like you really don't get to 978 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 2: go over there and just play the way you want 979 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 2: to all they really it's just different. 980 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 4: It's way different than the NBA, you know. 981 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 2: I mean you see a lot of overseas guys that 982 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 2: come in lead and that's ben Stars even say it's 983 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 2: tough over there than this here. 984 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 4: I don't know. 985 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 2: I haven't played out, but I always talk to some guys. 986 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 2: But uh, I was happy for Jabriyan Parker. He had 987 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 2: opportunity to be on my team a couple like for 988 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 2: like a year or two with the Wizards, and just 989 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 2: know how talent he wasn't gift he was coming from 990 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 2: high school being there one player going to do and 991 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 2: getting drafted high, to having injuries and just not giving 992 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 2: up on his dreams. I mean, like you said, he 993 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 2: finally found a love of basketball again. And that's something 994 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 2: that I enjoyed and loved for him. And it was 995 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 2: great to see because a lot of people dont understand, 996 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 2: like we really sacrifice our whole lives to be this, 997 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 2: Like we work hard every day to get to be 998 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 2: at his highest level of play in the NBA or 999 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 2: just be a professional with anything. You know, when it's 1000 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 2: taken away, sometimes it's taking away the way you don't 1001 00:50:59,680 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 2: want it to. 1002 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 4: But it's all part of God's playing. That's how I 1003 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 4: look at it. 1004 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 2: And for him to find the love and the joy 1005 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 2: for it again, I didn't let you know, as a guy, 1006 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 2: don't care about how much money he was making, how 1007 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 2: much money it is. He really loved the game. He's 1008 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 2: willing to go over he's willing to go to sacrifice 1009 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 2: and do that. And for book, I was happy to 1010 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 2: see him, you know, I mean, like being through all 1011 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 2: the adversity he's been through, deal with injuries and then 1012 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 2: going over there, winning championship, win the MVP. Whenever you're winning, 1013 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 2: whenever you're playing something that you love, no matter what 1014 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 2: league is in is always great and special enough to 1015 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 2: feel the love and respect. 1016 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, got it. It was special to see for me. 1017 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, well said Okay, moving on, this has been a 1018 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,839 Speaker 1: big debate all over the media and the internet. So 1019 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark and the idea that you know, players are 1020 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,359 Speaker 1: setting out being physical, you know, even some dirty shots there. 1021 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: So I wanted to ask you because we talked about 1022 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 1: the similarities of you've been a number one pick and 1023 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: all the hype for you to come in the league. 1024 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: So Bucket or Brick, number one picks will always have 1025 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: a target on their back that can sort of result 1026 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 1: in some physical altercations or you know, maybe even some 1027 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: dirty shots. 1028 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 2: I can't I can say buck Brid it's kind of 1029 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 2: because I don't think people come out and try to 1030 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 2: be dirty, you know what I mean. 1031 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 4: I think it's just a nature being there. 1032 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 2: One picked, Like you come in you a special what 1033 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,360 Speaker 2: you was in college, or you came from overseas or wherever, 1034 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 2: and then in the league. Guy's gonna let you know, 1035 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 2: like this is a man's leader, this is a woman's league, 1036 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,839 Speaker 2: Like it's grown up here. It's kind of like going 1037 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 2: from the college. I mean, you got to learn how 1038 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:18,359 Speaker 2: to play in that league. 1039 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 3: It's different. 1040 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 2: I really think a lot of people more upset and 1041 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 2: like she got the shoot deal she got or now 1042 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 2: that the whole wn BA is flying privately now and 1043 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,439 Speaker 2: those things, And for me, it's like you can't blame her, 1044 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 2: Like she didn't ask for this. She just goes out 1045 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 2: and play the game and she loves She's not so 1046 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 2: really big on social media. And I think what she 1047 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,399 Speaker 2: had helped involve to the game because it started way 1048 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 2: before her. Bro It goes to Lisa Lesi, go to 1049 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 2: down at Rossi, Sheryl Swoops, Civiia Cooper, like it goes 1050 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 2: to all those that paved the way to help these 1051 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,320 Speaker 2: women get to where they get to. She can't control 1052 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 2: as nil. She can't help that. It's a platform with 1053 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 2: social media that give her that type of buzz. But 1054 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 2: she went to Ayel and nobody thought you would hear 1055 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 2: about her going to AIEO. I mean she built that 1056 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 2: for her self, herd team, her family, her reputation. He 1057 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 2: had guys like women like paid Beckers, you know what 1058 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you got Angelie. She have all those women 1059 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 2: that making the game involved it's not just one person, 1060 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 2: but she has made a lot of stuff happen that 1061 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 2: wasn't happening before, And I think a lot of people 1062 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 2: more upset that it's happening because that way. But basketball wise, 1063 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 2: she's just going out there and competing, and like it 1064 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 2: hasn't been easy for It's been tough. She had tough games, 1065 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 2: she had a lot of turnovers like this, but she's 1066 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 2: figuring the game out. She's not complaining. She's going out 1067 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,359 Speaker 2: there and compete at high level. So I think more 1068 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 2: people are more upset about the other accolades she got 1069 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 2: and benefit she got off the court than it is 1070 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 2: mainly her own the court. 1071 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you remember your rookie year where was anyone 1072 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: coming at you? Do you remember a specific story or 1073 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 1: altercation where guys are getting physical with you, maybe trash 1074 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 1: talking because you were the number one? 1075 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 2: No, not really, like I was just I just hooped, 1076 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 2: Like I'm just didn't give a fuck who I was playing. 1077 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be me regardless, and I knew in 1078 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 2: due time I was gonna figure my way out in 1079 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 2: the league. You, I mean, like it was difficult back then, 1080 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 2: it was real too big, There was really coverages and stuff. 1081 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,359 Speaker 2: It wasn't like how it is now when you could 1082 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 2: switch one through five or get the mids matches like 1083 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 2: you really had to go through schemes up. I went 1084 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,800 Speaker 2: through it everywhere. I had to guard the best fucking 1085 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 2: point guards in the world, like it was no duck 1086 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 2: in them and going out guard somebody else. I had 1087 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 2: to guard the Rondo's. I had to guard to Dan Williams. 1088 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,720 Speaker 2: I had to guard to the Rolls, the Russell Westbrook, 1089 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,240 Speaker 2: to Chris Pauls. I had to guard those. I couldn't 1090 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 2: go like now I'm gonna guard a small four to 1091 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 2: go guard the shoot right now. I had to guard 1092 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 2: those guys, and I had to go compete on other 1093 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 2: land and go and go back at them. So it 1094 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 2: was it wasn't easy, but I was built for anything, 1095 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 2: Like I'm a dog, I'm not scarning no matchups, and 1096 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 2: I'm willing to go to anybody. 1097 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 4: So I think you build your reputation and build your 1098 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 4: respect from that. 1099 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think this is gonna be how 1100 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 1: Caitlin and some of these rookies become superstars because they're 1101 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: gonna build that thick skin that kind of band was 1102 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 1: even talking about and this will be a learning experience 1103 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: and you overcome that and you become these superstar players. 1104 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 1: So shout out to them and and I gonna keep 1105 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,959 Speaker 1: watching that. So this has been another episode of Point Game. John. 1106 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: We got the final starting this week. 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