1 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: So this is doctor pimple Popper. First of all, you 2 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: really have built a brand. You have built this brand 3 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: in doctor pimple Popper. And did that start because of 4 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: these like shocking videos. 5 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, essentially it did. I mean it didn't really start 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: so shocking. I mean it depends on what you consider shocking. 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: I guess blackhead extractions and things like that. Do you 8 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: can you watch those? Can you not tolerate those at all? 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 2: Just like a basic extraction of a blackhead on a nose? 10 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: No, it gives you the heat best, like a combination. 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: Like I get the satisfaction that people have with it. 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, but. 13 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm not drawn to it, but I completely understand why 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: people are, and sometimes there's something fascinating. 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: I am the same way. I've never been drawn to it. 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: I'm a dermatologist. I'm not drawn to it. But I 17 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: discovered that people were really into it, and then I 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: just thought, how far can I push it? And I 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: call those soft pops, and then I call it hard 20 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: pops when you go into like the heavy stuff, like 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: the triple X kind of pops where you got like 22 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: some blood gushing and your surgery. And I see that 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: there's a range, So I feel like you can sort 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: of get people into it a little bit. 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like PGR or x NC seventeen exactly fascinating. 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: Wow. 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: Okay, So how much of your time is spent on 28 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: social media and the brand of it and actually being 29 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: a dermatologist. 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 3: How do you balance both? It's hard. 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: I mean, just like you, you know, you're doing a 32 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 2: lot of different things, and sometimes you get excited about 33 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: something and you put more of your eggs in that basket, right, 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: and then you move away and you might get bored 35 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: with it or something happens with it. I was very 36 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: into social media back that was like probably twenty sixteen 37 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: or so, when I was just growing and I was 38 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: really new. I was one of the only doctors on 39 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: social media and just posting these and seeing this sort 40 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: of grow really quickly because the algorithm really was there. 41 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: People engaged with you, and they responded. They either loved 42 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: it or they hated it. Tag the friends. Yeah, so 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: it's like crazy and I was like, what is this 44 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 2: and what is this crazy strange power? 45 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: Right? You see it? 46 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: You grow and you're like people are like in you know, 47 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: Bolivia or watching your rights and you have this weird 48 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: sort of influence that was new and interesting, and here 49 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: I am just a dermatologist working in my office and 50 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: now people were coming to me from like across the 51 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: country or other continents. 52 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: That's what I was going to ask. So how much 53 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: of it is education versus entertainment in the social media space. 54 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: I maintain that it's primarily education, but I feel like 55 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: it's interesting. People don't understand the things. 56 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 3: That lives beneath. Yeah, and I think it's fascinating to everybody. 57 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 3: I say this all the time. 58 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 2: It's like, we all know what's normal skin looks like, right, 59 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: so we don't really know. I don't really know what 60 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: a disease liver may look like by looking at it, 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: but we know what skin should look like in our eyes, 62 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: and so it's more fascinating, I think, to us because 63 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: it's all relatable to us. 64 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: Right, So I need you to settle something for me 65 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: and tell me if I was on or off. I 66 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: see influencers beating their face with makeup, then going, we're 67 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: gonna get into them just beating their face with makeup 68 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: to begin with, which just makes me cringe more than 69 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: watching a pimple be popped, way more because I'm like 70 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: this is so dumb, which we're going to get into, 71 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: which is also ironic because I do a lot of 72 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: makeup videos, so I see someone going with a full 73 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: beat of makeup onto an airplane for multiple hours. And 74 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: here's what my natural instincts which have gotten me everywhere, 75 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: and why I have good skin in my opinion, why 76 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm thin in my opinion, my natural instincts say, which 77 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: people have debated against because they've been like, what's the 78 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: difference between being on a plane and walking through a 79 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: mall with makeup or through the day, And I'm like, Okay, 80 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: an airplane is the most dehydrating, drying place in the 81 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: world world. Not to mention you're trapped with other people's germs. 82 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: Now you're in a capsule with layers of makeup on, 83 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: and compounding that with dehydration, and sometimes being dehydrated can 84 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: trap your skin, even make you break out underneath. My opinion, 85 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: those underneath bumps. So it's not always what you see. 86 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: It's like again, what lies beneath, Like your skin's not breathing. 87 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: So I think putting makeup on and going on a plane, 88 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: or putting it on on a plane is crazy and 89 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: you should have the cleanest skin possible and utilize that 90 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: time to cleanse and hydrate because that's the time you're 91 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: going to be so dehydrated. Drink water, Do the best 92 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: you can. That's my gut instinct. How on or off 93 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: am I because people debated me, Yeah, And I think 94 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: this was an issue right on social media recently. 95 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: Not an issue, just a discussion. 96 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: Some people I think we're talking about don't even do 97 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: your skincare regimen there because it's like doing it in 98 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: the toilet or something. You know, it's like in a 99 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: dirty area, So you could think of it that way too. 100 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: But I agree with you. Dehydration is big. I don't 101 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 2: love putting having a ton of makeup on in the airplane, 102 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: but you know, I also put a little bit of 103 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: makeup on, but I don't like heavy coverage. 104 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 3: And what happens is that there's occlusion. 105 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: Like if I have heavy makeup on and I'm doing 106 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: some press or something, I want to take that off 107 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: as soon as I can, because it just feels like 108 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: this weight on you when you trapping. Yes, it doesn't 109 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: feel like your skin can breathe properly, And so I 110 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: agree with that. I don't know if I like love 111 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: the idea of people doing a full skincare regimen there. 112 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: I mean it's like you're on the toilet really right, 113 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: and you're like, well. 114 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: I do it before, yeah, doing it on? No, I agree, 115 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: that's a great point too. You're like putting germs into 116 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: the face now, like taking the air, you got to 117 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: seal the practice before you get on. 118 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I don't think it's a huge deal. 119 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: Like I mean, if people want to do that and 120 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: they don't have the time and they got to run 121 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: and do it on the plane, then what are you 122 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: going to do? 123 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: You know? 124 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: But do I think like everybody should be, you know, 125 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 2: having pull heads of makeup on the plane or putting 126 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: their makeup on on the plane. No, I mean I 127 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: think it's not a good idea. It's a different environment. 128 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're doing it because you feel like you 129 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: want to look a certain way. So you're saying it's 130 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: the lesser of evils in that moment. You don't want 131 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: to feel bad about the way you look, so you're 132 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: taking that little risk on the table about trapping your skin, 133 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you're deciding what I'm saying. 134 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,119 Speaker 1: In an ideal world, if you're on an airplane. Isn't 135 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: no makeup a better idea? 136 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: Of course? Okay, that's what I thought. 137 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: I definitely will break out after a couple of things 138 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: of makeup, like having it on. This is also ironic 139 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: because I talk about makeup like not a lot, and 140 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: I've gone to get microdermabration, which I still do love. 141 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: And no matter how well you've cleaned your skin, when 142 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: they take that little white pad out, it's makeup. 143 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: On there and they tell you look at it. 144 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: And if it is a month where I've done more photoshoots, 145 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: you see more like it's very hard to really get 146 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: it all out. 147 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 148 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: Sure, But on that note, you got to be careful 149 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: with those sorts of things too, because too much of 150 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: a good thing is excessive. 151 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: Right. 152 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: There are certainly people who have body dysmorphia and they're 153 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: scrubbing their face. Oh no you can't, So you got 154 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: to there's like a balance, you know, there's dirt everywhere. 155 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: You could be getting your face. 156 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: If you do a microdermoerbration after not wearing any makeup, 157 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: you may still have. 158 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: That would be a nice test. 159 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: An hour after you wake up you didn't do anything, 160 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: and there's dirt in your face. It's just dirt in 161 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, that's a great point too, But I 162 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: do think that it's crazy watching influencers talk about their 163 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: skin and covering the pounds of makeup and then the 164 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: being upset about having bad skin. 165 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a vicious cycle, right, because then you have 166 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: to cover it up and then that promotes it more. 167 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: But like, what are you gonna do? It's just the 168 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: way the world runs. It's very hard for them to 169 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: go bare. It's like going into rehab and like cold turkey. 170 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: You just cutting yourself off or something. It's really hard 171 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: to do that. This is a protection, This is an 172 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: armor that a lot of us wear. 173 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: Right. 174 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: Makeup is protection and makes us feel better, makes us 175 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: look better to others, and so it has negative effects 176 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: certainly if you overdo it. 177 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: So interesting, I just think that I've a guy that 178 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: I dated said to me, you are the least vain 179 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: person I have ever met in my life, And I 180 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: think it might just be that, Like I have so 181 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: many other issues like organizational and a rose season whatever. 182 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: But I think it's easy for you too. You look beautiful, 183 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: You're thin, you know what I mean. I mean, that's 184 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: something you're blessed with no But I have dark circles 185 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: and all the things. I just have a thing where 186 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: I want to feel like. 187 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: It's I want to feel healthy more than I want 188 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: to look good. 189 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: That's just my thing, you know what I'm saying. I 190 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: got it. 191 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had the extensions in and I for a 192 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: couple of months. I took them out. I was like, 193 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm damaging my hair. 194 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: I think I've talked. I heard you talk about eyelash extensions. 195 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: I had them for a while and I hate them now. 196 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: I'll never go back to eyelash extensions that kind of thing. 197 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: My hair and eyelashes have grown like forty percent. They 198 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: are like thick an it's wild. And I didn't even 199 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: do it for that long. But yeah, I think it's 200 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: just I guess you're right. It's about finding the balance 201 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: it is. So how do you monetize this business experience, 202 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: et cetera. 203 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: Is there a product line? 204 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 2: Yes, I have my own product line. I have SMD Care, 205 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: which started as an acne treatment system. You know, because 206 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: obviously pimples and sense because all these people around the 207 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 2: world were looking for answers. So that is one thing 208 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: that we certainly started. But the monetization was really interesting 209 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: in you back then when it first started, like in 210 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen or sixteen or so, because I was monetizing 211 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: my Blackhead extractions like on YouTube, and it was going like, 212 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: you know, what is it like a penny, like a 213 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: thousand views or whatnot, But we have like five point 214 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: three or so billion views. I mean, it's crazy how 215 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 2: many people watch these videos over and over again. 216 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: So you were able to just monetize the content itself. 217 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: Yes, but things changed a little bit because then now 218 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: a lot of the content is not what they deem 219 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 2: advertisable because it's shocking or gross. 220 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: To people, you know. 221 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 2: So there's been a little bit of a dilemma there, 222 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: which is actually things that I'd like to ask advice 223 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: from you about, you know. I mean, I think it's 224 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: so interesting how I was able to grow this and 225 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: then have a TV show from this, and a product 226 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: line and you know, a book and all this sort 227 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: of thing, which is really beyond anything I ever really imagined. 228 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: And it can be very complicated and difficult in what 229 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: I do because you don't really want to watch this stuff. 230 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: It makes you uncomfortable, it makes you and so people 231 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: demit shocking or gross, and so sometimes you can't really 232 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: put the graphics stuff up. 233 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: Where's the greatest generator of income and all your business? 234 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: Where's your money coming from the most? 235 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: Probably? 236 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: I mean, we've got the TV show, We've got my 237 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: skincare line. I mean, I think I've got multiple funnels 238 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: kind of coming in my work. But I work like 239 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: two days a week now, so I'm not working extensively 240 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: because the show gets in the way. What's interesting is 241 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: that this all happened but I had a day job. 242 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: This wasn't my whole thing. 243 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: So I also feel a little safety in having a 244 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 2: day job that I know I'm good at, I'm successful at, 245 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 2: and that I'm sort of in this world of a 246 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: smaller group of people that I have to compete against 247 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: to be, you know, a good dermatologists. 248 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: Right. 249 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 2: So I have this show that I love that I 250 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: think is really special. I don't know if you've ever 251 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: seen it, but it really has to do with the 252 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: stories behind the people that you're changing. 253 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 3: Which is such a lovely thing. 254 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 2: But of course we have to tackle some really big cases, 255 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: probably bigger than I ever imagine that i'd really be 256 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 2: doing in my life. You know, but I'm a dermatologic surgeon. 257 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: I would say more so than other things. I'm sort 258 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: of cosmetic and surgical dermatology. 259 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: It's a little bit like Botched or the two guys 260 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: on Eve that had the plastic surgery show like. 261 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: It is, but more like real people in the world. 262 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: You know, Yes, they can't leave their house because they 263 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: have like, oh wow, growth on their nose that's like 264 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: the size of a grapefruit. 265 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: Little. 266 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some crazy, crazy surgeries that we've dealt with. 267 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: So it's been a weird journey, Like it's weird to 268 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: be in this world. I live in LA now and 269 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 2: I've grown up in this area outside of La. 270 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 3: Oh, your practice is in LA. 271 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 2: It's in the Inland Empire. It's between La and Palm Springs. 272 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: But it's in Calful, Okay, got upland Clairemont area. But 273 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 2: now I live in LA and I think it's just 274 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: weird to be in that industry too, because as a dermatologist, 275 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: you go through your life and that's what you do. 276 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: You don't really touch these other areas of the world, 277 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: and so it's very weird to be, you know, in 278 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: this industry where you're a doctor but you're also sort 279 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: of an entertainer or you know, or a celebrity. 280 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: So you're trying to find because it's also this show 281 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: is not mainstream and the content is often not in 282 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: the mainstream. You're trying to find the thing that's gonna 283 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: no pun intended pop off and you can monetize. 284 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying. 285 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: I think we found something, you know, I think we 286 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: have something really great. 287 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: I'm very proud of what we do. 288 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: It's just that it's an interesting position that I found 289 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: myself in. 290 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 3: And I but what do you needed? You saying you 291 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: could get advice from me about what, like what is 292 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: the problem to solve? 293 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: I just think that you have great natural sort of 294 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: skills and thinking in this way. And yeah, I think 295 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: people say it all the time. We are not business people. 296 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: As physicians, that's not really what we're trained to think 297 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: or do. And so it's been very interesting and fun 298 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: to do that. And I think that I do have 299 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: an entrepreneurial side. But it's just like you're always trying 300 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 2: to solve something like you're switching. You're like Muhammad Ali, right, 301 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: I feel like we kind of go with the punches 302 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: and we sort of move forward as best we can, 303 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: and we sort of dog you know, I'm trying to 304 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: figure out myself. 305 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: You were reinventing yourself a lot. 306 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it on purpose though, that's the thing. 307 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 1: I'm not thinking about it at all. This is all accidental. 308 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: My philosophy is when the tables go cold, I'm walking 309 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: out like this is ridiculous, Like the whole thing is ridiculous. 310 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 3: So that's how everything has been. 311 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: It's for me, I've just been I'm a very serious 312 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: person in a sense that I can't help but have 313 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: ten thousand ideas and execute them and market them. And 314 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: there's no one that gets things done like I do, 315 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: or delegates like I do. But it's been all totally accidental. 316 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: It's just almost like a fun garage band for me. 317 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's weird. 318 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: That's why people ask me to do a skincare line 319 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: all the time, a makeup line. 320 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 3: I don't want to do it. Yeah, I don't want 321 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: to do it. 322 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: I don't do anything I don't want to do, Like 323 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: I don't go anywhere I don't want to go. I 324 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: don't do anything I don't want to do. But it 325 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: ends up working because that people ended up really trusting me, right, 326 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: So I would say you have it's very very clear 327 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: because you keep saying this is crazy, and this is 328 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: what my first piece of advice to you would be 329 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: very clear on what you want. If there's something that 330 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: you do want it, like I want to make a 331 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: lot of money in addition to you're helping people. You 332 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: don't have to say only that there's nothing wrong. Whatever 333 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: your thing is. I don't do anything now that's not charity. 334 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: I have a marketing paid because I don't want to 335 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: do it, So you can't pay like I make more 336 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: than anyone to do any of the things that I 337 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: do because I don't give a shit if I do 338 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: them or not, because no one moves product like I do, 339 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: not a person because I don't care. I care about 340 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, but I'm saying you have to 341 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: be very truthful because the universe hears everything, and be 342 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: very honest about what you want, Like you want to 343 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: build a global brand, you want to make a billion dollars, 344 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: you want to just enjoy your life and have a 345 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: balance but still make a good living, Like you have 346 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: to be very clear on who you want to be 347 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: and what you want to do. 348 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: That's interesting because I mean, you feel like you have 349 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: to have a goal in place. You really have to 350 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: have a clear cut goal. 351 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: It can change, and it can be concept well, it 352 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be I want to have a skincare line. 353 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: It can change, and it can be like playing chess 354 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: and checkers at the exact same time. Like you somehow 355 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: have these like visions and these fantasies about that board, 356 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: but then you're also playing checkers in this moment, and 357 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: they have to like dance with each other and change. 358 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: Like I said, I literally sat down. I was talking 359 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: about makeup. 360 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: I had no makeup, and I'd write a cover girl 361 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: thing a foundation, and was like, wait, I didn't know 362 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: people did videos on YouTube. I didn't know there were 363 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: makeup people doing videos. I didn't know people were getting snatched. 364 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know there was a filter. I didn't know anything. 365 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: Once it started to pop off, Okay, I'm a person 366 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: who's teed up. There are too many fish right here 367 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: for me to not take the net. But now that 368 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: I have a teamworking for me and it's happening, I 369 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: am navigating and making decisions about what it all means. 370 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean, oh I want to have a TV show. 371 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: I want to have that. I want to have that. 372 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: That's not an overall strategy, that's a thing, but my 373 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: overall concept. I understand exactly what it is and what 374 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: it means at all times. And you have to find 375 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: a way to align the skincare, which you do every day. 376 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: Even the conversation about wanting to look good and being 377 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: on a makeup like, that's a real conversation that like, 378 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm a dermatologist, but I want to look good, And 379 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: it's a conflict for me because I know this, but 380 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: I do that. So I decided this, like be open 381 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: and honest in the moment to what's going on and 382 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: craft whatever the the is around it, like it all fits. 383 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: But you have to make all the puzzle pieces fit, 384 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: from the alien thing on someone's nose to this to 385 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: the product line. They all have to speak one very clear, 386 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: fluent language. 387 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: One thing that I think is interesting is there is 388 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: a little bit of a conflict. I don't know if 389 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: this will make sense to you, but that there's a 390 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: little conflict because I am a professional. I am a dermatologist, 391 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: so I feel like I hear it. 392 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 3: But that's going to be the problem. 393 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: This is literally has nothing to do with you, But 394 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: it's what I said is wrong with Megan Markle be 395 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: a famous brand, reality store, or be a royal. 396 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: We cannot be in the riptide. We decide who we are. 397 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: We led and you left. You can't hang. 398 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: Onto a title, bake jam and then also monetize what 399 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: you're wearing with an affiliate link. 400 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: Who are you? What do you want to be when 401 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: you grow up? Decide now and be that. 402 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: If you feel like there's some version of it that 403 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: lacks integrity to what you originally do, talk about it, 404 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 1: include it, include it in the whole thing. But as 405 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: long as it's truthful, threat it, you're allowed to be 406 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: two things at once. Yes, I make a lot more 407 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: money now than when I was on reality TV in 408 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: a box of what I'm supposed to be, and people 409 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: now think I'm just some crazy ant talking to a 410 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: chicken salad sitting in an attic. I don't give a 411 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: shit what they think. I know what it is and 412 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: what I'm doing, and what I mean to women and 413 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: what I mean to young women, just my personality. 414 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 3: So if I say it, people know it's true. 415 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: So whatever it is, just be honest in the moment 416 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: about what it is and like bring them with you 417 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: on the that talk about this conflict. 418 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: I feel like a sellout. 419 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: I love doing this whatever, but I feel like there's 420 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: something that so many women are going to have the same. 421 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: YEA in their field. They're going to relate to that 422 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: another way. 423 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: I know. 424 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm a nurse and I feel like it's weird that 425 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 1: I want to be whatever. I want to be at 426 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: stripper about the airport, that's weird. 427 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 3: You could do both. You can actually be a nurse 428 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: and dance by the airport if you want to. I can't. 429 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: You can't. I can't do that. No, I know what's saying. 430 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: One can you feel that you can't, but you have 431 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: to thread it together whatever it well, yeah, but do 432 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: you want to see a dermatologist who is a stripper? 433 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: Would you be like asol, I couldn't care less. You 434 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 3: don't think that would get in. 435 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: That would decrease your confidence in them as a surgeon. 436 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 3: It depends how it lands. It's if they can land it. 437 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, in twenty twenty five, I absolutely could go 438 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: to a doctor that danced at night as long as 439 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: they were communicating it. It makes me past I don't 440 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: care what anyone does. I would create the best plastic 441 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: surgeons in New York have had major problems, like people 442 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: have lives. I'm just saying this is went off on 443 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: a tangent. You are allowed to be a successful dermatologist. 444 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: Right, and a human a person and do stand up comedy. 445 00:18:49,160 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: And be successful at both. I always bring up Stacy's 446 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: Peeda chips. I wonder if she knows that I brought 447 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: up twenty five times since she's been on the podcast minimum. 448 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: But years ago, Stacey from Stacy's Peter Chips. She sold 449 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: it for two hundred fifty million dollars. She was a 450 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: sandwich cart. It was freezing every day in Chicago. The 451 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: only thing they couldn't run out of is bread. And 452 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: when they ran out of the other stuff, her brother 453 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: had a recipe and they made these peda chips and 454 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: that was the thing. Wasn't the sandwiches. She's not Stacy 455 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: sandwiches for two hundred fifty million. So you gotta be 456 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: allowed to, like, look where the fish are, yeah, and 457 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: go there and keep your base. You don't need to 458 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: let go of your practice. And then it might be weird. 459 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 1: But I think that's what happened. With the pimple popping. 460 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened. 461 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: It's like, what is this random thing, and let's grow 462 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: this into something exactly. 463 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: But you need the base for the credibility in that space. 464 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: That's why you're staying with it, and so are you're 465 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: doing it two days a week. 466 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 3: I look at. 467 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: Doctors who are very good and who are in there 468 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: five days a week, all day thinking there's a cap 469 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: on it. And if you want to make money, do it. 470 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: No matter what you do the math twenty ways, hire 471 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: twenty doctors under you. If you have to be there's 472 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: still a cap. So you don't want there to be 473 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: a cap you want to do other things, Yes, I 474 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: would say. 475 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 3: The only thing I'm getting. 476 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: Is the trepidation and the hesitation and you not second 477 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: guessing yourself, you knowing exactly what it is, but feeling 478 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: like you have to overcompensate and explain it. And I 479 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: think that's what you have to just like let go of, Yeah, 480 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: this is what it is. And I'm on a journey 481 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: and I'm going to put it all together, and when 482 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't fit, I'm going to tell you it doesn't fit, 483 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: and then I'll make something else fit yeah. 484 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like your adventure is continuing and 485 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: you're just finding yourself in new places, in new ways, 486 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 2: and like you know, and you're taking us all on 487 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: that trip. 488 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: Really, yeah, you're right. 489 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: It's funny. I talk to my therapist today. I don't 490 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: know how whatl do you mind? If I ask au 491 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: old you are? 492 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: I am fifty four? Oh, my same age. Oh when's 493 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: your birthday? December December twenty oh, so we're very clo 494 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 3: I'm November fourth. 495 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: So my therapist was saying today, it's not exactly related, 496 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: but you'll find something in this because you're the same 497 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: age that there's a lot different with me. And it's 498 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: all on the inside. It's not on the outside. And 499 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: this is getting caught up in a superficial thing that 500 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But whether it's selling sixty bags, it's not 501 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: about the bags. It's about why I would have them, 502 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: and it's what it represents. I'm super confident inside. I'm 503 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: very secure right now inside, and I feel like it's 504 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: coming through and it's not an intention even in a 505 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 1: weird way of like dating, where like for the first 506 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: time in my adult life of being single, I forget 507 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: It's like people who forget to eat, and you're like, 508 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: how do you forget to eat? If I'm in something 509 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: with someone or dating someone, or someone who's in the 510 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: stable who's texting me, and like, this could be a 511 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: major really rich, good looking great and I like them 512 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: and I'm present when i'm there if I go at them, 513 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: but if I don't have it, I don't care. 514 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 3: And if they don't text, then goodbye. And I've never 515 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 3: been like that. 516 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: I've been more girly where it's like he didn't calling 517 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: my friends telling him every stupid detail all day long. 518 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: So you like this new version of you or this 519 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 2: better version of you, that's what you're saying. 520 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: Yes, And I think that a lot of these years 521 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: that were probably more prime like dating and evolving, were 522 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: spent being a little bit drowning in this house. And 523 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: I'm going to put the silver lining on the fact 524 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: that I think it made me reflect a lot. I 525 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: think I've been alone a lot, and I'm alone or anyway, 526 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: but I've been alone more than normal and I've done 527 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: a lot of reflecting. So I think it ended up 528 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: coming out to what this result is now in this 529 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: like vortex of moving, well, I'm. 530 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: In a different stage. I'm in a new stage in 531 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: my life and the show reflects that a little bit. 532 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: That I'm an empty nester now. My kids both went 533 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: to school in the East Coast, so I'm with my 534 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: husband now, and I mean, which is great, but also 535 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: like you're hanging out with them all the time, you know, 536 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 2: we moved to a new area. I have great girlfriends, 537 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: but they're not living in this area. So it's actually 538 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: a weird transition with me, like where I think I'm 539 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: like you too, like I have to be busy. 540 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: I don't want to be. It just comes to me. 541 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: I say yes to pretty much everything. I mean, I 542 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: think I'm a yes person. I'm a people pleaser, but 543 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: I also like what I do. I like to stay 544 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: very busy, and so it's actually really hard for me 545 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 2: sometimes because I'll have a day off and then I'll 546 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 2: have sort of a free plan because I'm used to 547 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: go and work right patients and doing things, so like 548 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: it gets a little bit like, oh my gosh, what 549 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 2: am I doing with my life? 550 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 3: But I'm busy. But I'm also I understand. 551 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, okay, so it's different my therapist today, 552 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: but no, I like this, but it's different because I 553 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: don't want anything on my calendar, and my entire life 554 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: is about the opposite. I'm not a people person, and 555 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: it's about pushing it off. But because I have endless ideas, 556 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: as the CMO of Beam Global once said, You're an 557 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: idea hamster, it seeps in. I don't want it. It's 558 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: like an addiction to me. It's different. It's like fuck 559 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: for me. I don't want it, and I don't want 560 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: to be busy, and I want to be like walking 561 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: on the beach and wandering, and I want the data 562 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: just dissolve into nothing. That's literally an analogy to my 563 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: entire career right now. I didn't want any of this, 564 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: But it's not like I don't like it. It's just 565 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: like I'm constantly saying no. Like the whole move is, 566 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: I'm never going back to this life in this house again, 567 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: where it was busy and the stuff and everyone's sending me. 568 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: You'd think I was a crazy person because I've told 569 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: my entire staff, do not accept one thing. 570 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: I don't want it. 571 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: I mean literally diamonds and cars and coffee. I'm like, 572 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't want it because I want to preserve my peace. 573 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: But I relate to what you're saying, because even with 574 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: the depth of busy that I have and the depth 575 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: of demand, I still feel like, what is this all? 576 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: What does this even mean? 577 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: And even if you're busy, it's just not it's just 578 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: distracting from thinking about what this all is. And that's 579 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: the core thing that I actually got to call my 580 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: therapist back and talk about, because that's the core thing 581 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: you're going through. And I could say something stupid to you, 582 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: like you should take up meditating, and then you're like, 583 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: why don't you fuck off? Because you should take up 584 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: meditating just as much as I should. So the whole 585 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: thing I think is about us at this age because 586 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: you know we're older, you know the health is different, 587 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: you know the kids are older. You're thinking you're not 588 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: like dreading death, but you know that you don't have 589 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: that many years to look this good. 590 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: It's kind of like, yes, you look good. 591 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: And you could just say, Okay, I'm gonna be retired 592 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: now because what's the point of all this because life 593 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: is short? But like them, what are you gonna do? 594 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: Sit and just look at a sunset for two hours? 595 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: So you're doing what I'm doing, which is. 596 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: Not the same way, but it's a stage you're just 597 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: trying to figure yourself out now in this new sort 598 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: of era of your life, and there's a lot of 599 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 2: other things that are going on. And it's such a 600 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: weird stage because when you have kids, it's sort of 601 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 2: like you're focused around them. Now you have this thing 602 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: where you're like, it's me and I got to figure 603 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 2: out what I need to do to be happy, because yeah, 604 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 2: you're thinking about the end of your life. 605 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 3: You still have many years. 606 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: I know, but you're understand how lucky you are, not 607 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: because of being privileged, you know, and having money, but 608 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: because you have a thing. And this is connected to 609 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: what I say on this podcast all the time. Many 610 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: women our age because I've met all the men that 611 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: are divorced from them, have lost custody of their children. 612 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: They're drinking, they're taking pills because they. 613 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 3: Are where we are. 614 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: They don't even have the career to cling on to 615 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: because you can't go shopping in a circular reference or 616 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: sewing costumes is over if your kids get older. So like, 617 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: pretend you don't have money, you don't sew costumes, you 618 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: haven't built a career. Your husband could have had his 619 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: own mid life crisis glove up. A lot of these 620 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: guys are working out in their garage and they've got 621 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: stuff going on. They're playing golf, and you feel like, wait, 622 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm left behind. So we are very lucky to even 623 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: have a thing to cling to. And it's why I 624 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: try to tell young women, you cannot see the whole board. 625 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: Why don't you just get the bag and get married. 626 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: This is a long road and if you do not 627 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: cultivate something, you're going to feel like you don't have purpose. 628 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: Because I often feel like and that's ridiculous. It's ridiculous 629 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: with the things that I'm going on that I would 630 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: think that. So that's what the podcast is for the 631 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: social media too. I always feel like, just naturally have 632 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: an inclination to talk to younger women about the mistakes 633 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: that they could be making in a way that they 634 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: could actually digest. Because I didn't have any parenting. 635 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 2: I think that's really important because I don't think there 636 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: are many voices that are our age that are talking 637 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: to young people about that. I've never had a therapist, 638 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: and I probably should, but I did never have, and 639 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of times my patients have 640 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: sort of been little therapist here and there. It's like 641 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 2: literally you're talking to somebody at the grocery store and 642 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 2: the person turns around and you have to talk to them. 643 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: Yes, that's how I feel like when I. 644 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 2: Deal with my patients, because you've talked a round them, 645 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 2: people that you may never talk to in your life, 646 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: and you learn so much from them. 647 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 3: That's great. That, by the way, that's like a book. Yeah. 648 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: But also you're like me and that you're a crowdsourcer 649 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: and then you make your own decision. You crowdsource, and 650 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: but you're on the stove making the recipe. Ultimately, Like 651 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm a big crowdsourcer. I don't listen to what anyone 652 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 1: tells me to do, but I love to hear other 653 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: people's perspectives to mold my own way to do it. 654 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: But I think one of my problems is I have 655 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: a hard time delegating. I will end up trying to 656 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: do it mysef horrible. I do that too, But no, 657 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 2: that's horrible. It's very hard though. How do you do that? 658 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: How do you let it go to somebody else? 659 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: Because you have to find your one Huna Huma Abidin 660 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: or Cheryl Samberg to your right that I found that, 661 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: and you have to find that person who they understand 662 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: your body and they're in it with you the whole way. 663 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: I have that at work, like you know, as a physician, 664 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 2: as a dermatologist, but I don't think I have that 665 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: in this other sort of a career that sort of happened. 666 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 3: You know, you have to find that. You have to 667 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 3: find that. It's not an assistant. You have to find that. 668 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: You have to find that, and you have to pay 669 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: them because it's gonna be expensive, it's gonna hurt, it's 670 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: gonna make a lot of money. So it's funny because 671 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: Tanks came on and she said this was therapy. So 672 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: I guess I guess I should have been a therapist 673 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: in another life for myself too, though it was therapy 674 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: for me too, So fine, I. 675 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 3: Have no idea. 676 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: Oh that's it is really like I would have never 677 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 2: thought that this conversation goes this way. 678 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 3: You know that is that is really cool? 679 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: Well, all right, so your show is Doctor Pimple Popper 680 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: breaking Out. I feel like we covered like a lot. Yeah, 681 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: it's on Lifetime. I moved love Lifetime. 682 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 3: I did a Lifetime show. I love Lifetime. 683 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: Mondays at nine and we have we just made twenty 684 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: episodes and so that's like three patients per episode, and 685 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: they're big cases wow craziness. And you know, we'll see 686 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: what happens. We'll see if there's another season and there'll 687 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: be another another twenty or so, we'll see what happens there. 688 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: But it's very exciting, really proud of it. It really 689 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 2: is an amazing show because it's the opposite of other 690 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: reality shows. 691 00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 3: I say this all the time. 692 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: Reality shows like Real Housewives, they're dealing with people who 693 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: are normal who are trying. 694 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: To be crazy. I mean, first of all, okay, maybe 695 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: they're not always normal. 696 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: We can unpop that on a later episode, yes, but 697 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,239 Speaker 2: I think like for me, it's like the crazy. It's 698 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: sort of walking in and you're trying to make them 699 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: everything put back in place and be normal. 700 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 3: So it's like the opposite almost. Yeah, I understand that 701 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 3: the upside down. 702 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: Yes, it starts with the thing that's atypical and gets 703 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: to hopefully some version of normal and this other thing 704 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: like like it is. 705 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 3: Like a roller coaster and it like ratchets up. 706 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: I don't think I could ever do The Real Housewives 707 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: myself because I don't. I would feel again, like I said, 708 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: like I'm a physician, like I would be really stressed 709 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: about being crazy at some point, you know, or something 710 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: like that. 711 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 3: It's not for you. Yeah, it's not for me. So 712 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 3: I think this has been perfect. Well, well, it's so 713 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: nice to meet you and talk to you so interesting. 714 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: It's really nice to meet you. 715 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: I hope I can be out there in the Hamptons 716 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: or something or my something like that will see well, yes, 717 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: I'm moving and I'm in the Hampton and this is 718 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: our new era. 719 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 3: You and I. We'll see how we both land.