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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the six DJ, Bucky

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Speaker 1: and C I F champion Buckey Brooks. That should add

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Speaker 1: so not just Bucky Brooks, and that properly to go

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Speaker 1: along with Rhett here. Congratulations Buck. We're gonna get to

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Speaker 1: from a fun weekend of football. Let's start with the

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Speaker 1: Packers and the Eagles the Sunday night game, which was

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Speaker 1: a close game on the scoreboard, but I would say

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Speaker 1: want to give up three yards rushing, and that's what

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers did in this one, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of it courtesy of Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts had

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Speaker 1: a monster game on the ground. I went back and

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Speaker 1: I see this this carry number from from Hurts, and

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Speaker 1: But when I went and broke it down, guys, this

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Speaker 1: this was equally impressive on the Eagles front, Rett and

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Speaker 1: And then on the defensive side of the ball, you know,

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Speaker 1: it from Justin Herbert. And that's kind of my point

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Speaker 1: that I want to hit on before we kick this

431
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Speaker 1: thing around the horn here. That last drive started with

432
00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,960
Speaker 1: a nice punt return DeAndre Carter. He gets the ball

433
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Speaker 1: to the thirty eight of the Cardinals and then it

434
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Speaker 1: was as Bucky always mentioned, it is players, not plays.

435
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Speaker 1: It is getting the ball to Austin Ekeler, which they

436
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,520
Speaker 1: did a bunch on this drive. It is a big

437
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Speaker 1: catch by Keenan Allen. Joe Lombardi, for all the heat

438
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,159
Speaker 1: and the grief that he gets from fans about this

439
00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,600
Speaker 1: offense and his play calling, dialed up two beautiful screens

440
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 1: um that were well executed to Austin Ekeler and then

441
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Speaker 1: the touchdown you get to Ekeler in the flat and

442
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Speaker 1: the two point conversion, which was a way to isolate

443
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Speaker 1: Gerald Everett on Isaiah Simmons, and they used Keenan as

444
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Speaker 1: kind of a decoy. He runs off, gets double covered,

445
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 1: you get a little outside moved to the flat, Gerald

446
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,199
Speaker 1: everts wide open for the two point conversion. So I

447
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 1: thought it was beautiful execution by Justin Herbert. I thought

448
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,000
Speaker 1: it was a great job by Joe Lombardi of getting

449
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,119
Speaker 1: the ball to the right people and you're gonna win

450
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,160
Speaker 1: or lose with your key guys. I thought they did

451
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Speaker 1: that in this game. Buck. It was It was a

452
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,160
Speaker 1: big game for the Charge. Yeah, it's a great game.

453
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 1: It was a big game, and it was a big

454
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Speaker 1: game for Brandon Stanley because look for all the jokes

455
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 1: and all the criticism that he's taken for being a

456
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 1: guy that literally pushes the envelope when it comes to

457
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Speaker 1: taking gambles, four downs, two point conversions. D J comes

458
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Speaker 1: back to what you talked about players not plays, and

459
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 1: when you have a quarterback like Justin Herbert in a

460
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 1: situation like that on the road, hey man, put the

461
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 1: ball in the hands of your best player and tell

462
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Speaker 1: them to go win the game. And so the play

463
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 1: that they dialed up was perfect. The way that they

464
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 1: uncovered Gerald Everett, who ran what we call the f post,

465
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 1: took him out, came back in wide open, but the

466
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Speaker 1: ball being on time, on target. That is because Justin

467
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Speaker 1: Herbert is absolutely a superstar. A segment ago, we talked

468
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Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence, and when Trevor Lawrence was coming out,

469
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Speaker 1: I felt like Trevor Lawrence and Justin Herbert were very,

470
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Speaker 1: very similar in terms of how they could progress and evolve. Man.

471
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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert continues to raise the bar for what we

472
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Speaker 1: expect from our elite quarterback and he is going to

473
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Speaker 1: go down as one of the best that we've seen

474
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Speaker 1: in that position because he has all the tool us

475
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Speaker 1: and he has the moxie to be an elite quarterback

476
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Speaker 1: for way long time. Yeah, and guys, I'll just turn

477
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Speaker 1: this over on the other side for the Cardinals, Uh,

478
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, tough way to go in this one. And

479
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 1: they had a couple of firsts in this game that

480
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Speaker 1: that that I thought might really help him, right, first

481
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: time they've had Hollywood Brown and DeAndre Hopkins healthy and

482
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Speaker 1: active for the first time at wide receiver due to

483
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Speaker 1: Hollywood being hurt and hops suspension through the first six weeks.

484
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: You've got James Conner over a hundred yards for the

485
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Speaker 1: first time this season and it's seventy five of those

486
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 1: yards coming after contact. Was a real physical presence in

487
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Speaker 1: this game. But ironically, after all those firsts, they couldn't

488
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Speaker 1: get a first down when they really needed one. Late

489
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 1: three straight three and ounce in the fourth quarter, the

490
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Speaker 1: last of which give the Chargers one last shot at

491
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Speaker 1: a TV and they take advantage. You can't give a

492
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Speaker 1: quarterback like Herbert that many opportunities. DJ, You know that

493
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Speaker 1: you've got to find a way to extend to drive

494
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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, work some time on the clock,

495
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Speaker 1: extend your lead. They could do neither and that's why

496
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: they are losing today. Yeah. No, And just being in

497
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 1: the stadium, there wasn't You didn't get a sense of

498
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: the confidence, you know, with Kyler Murray in this offense

499
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Speaker 1: that when they needed to make plays, they would make him,

500
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Speaker 1: Whereas it's different with Herbert. You know, these are two

501
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, really really gifted, really talented players, but it

502
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Speaker 1: just seems like there's more of a belief and that's

503
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Speaker 1: a team wide belief, maybe an organizational belief and Herbert

504
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: with the Chargers than there is with Kyler Murray and

505
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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. It's hard to put it into words,

506
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: but it just they couldn't they couldn't move the ball

507
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Speaker 1: when you absolutely had too with Arizona, and you just

508
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: got a feeling if the Chargers get the ball back

509
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: to have enough time, Herbert's going to take them right

510
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: down the field, which is exactly what he did. All Right,

511
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Speaker 1: let's stay in the division again. A clash between a

512
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Speaker 1: f C West n f C West. This is a

513
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Speaker 1: game that the Raiders, who have had a brutal season.

514
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Speaker 1: I felt like if they have any chance whatsoever to

515
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Speaker 1: climb back into this thing, they had to have it

516
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Speaker 1: on the road. Against the Seattle Seahawks team that's starting

517
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Speaker 1: to stumble a little bit. Uh this game, Derek Carr.

518
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 1: Those three touchdowns make some big days late in this ballgame.

519
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: But it was all about Josh Jacobs. Uh, go back

520
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: and watch all the runs in this game, which I

521
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Speaker 1: did this morning, and this was kind of just textbook

522
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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs. He's running between the tackles. You're talking about vision,

523
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Speaker 1: you're talking about contact, balance, bouncing off tacklers. Um, he's

524
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Speaker 1: a really really good field runner. He just has a

525
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: good feel for it, doesn't necessarily vow you with the

526
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Speaker 1: top end speed, and that's what you're thinking that all

527
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Speaker 1: of a sudden they run is so and overtime and

528
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Speaker 1: he walks it off with an eighty six yard game

529
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Speaker 1: winner where he beats the angle from the safety and

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Speaker 1: he's gone. So I went back, guys and and looked

531
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Speaker 1: at my college report on him because I was kind of,

532
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Speaker 1: you know, trying to figure out where I had him

533
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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs in that draft. If we go back, this

534
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: is my eighth overall player. I mean, this is the

535
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: the ability has always been there. They didn't pick up

536
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: his fifth year option coming into this year, but this

537
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Speaker 1: offense is Josh Jacobs right now. All the stars they have,

538
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Speaker 1: um you know, rent to me. This offense has a

539
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Speaker 1: chance when it goes through the leading rush in the NFL,

540
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Speaker 1: and that's Josh Jacobs. Think about the potential free agent

541
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Speaker 1: class of running backs this year, I mean Josh Jacobs,

542
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Speaker 1: se Kwan Barkley, Tony Pollard who's had a terrific year,

543
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Speaker 1: Jamal Williams is over double digit touchdowns for the Lions,

544
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: and the list goes on and on and on. There's

545
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Speaker 1: some big time players out there on that some teams

546
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Speaker 1: have kind of taken some chances on by not giving

547
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Speaker 1: those long term extensions too, and Josh Jacobs certainly one

548
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Speaker 1: of them. You touched on. Derek Carr did make some

549
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: real big throws late and there was some question about

550
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: whether that was going to happen after throwing two interceptions

551
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: on our first three possessions in this game. But he

552
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: and the Raiders, as they have at times throughout his

553
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,479
Speaker 1: career and especially this season, they bounced back. They get

554
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Speaker 1: up off the mat and they find a way to

555
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Speaker 1: score and I think it was five of their next

556
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Speaker 1: six possessions and stay in this game, which was a

557
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: wild one. Especially in the first half, and then they

558
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Speaker 1: figure out a way to get it done at the end.

559
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Speaker 1: And and that's really what it's been. You know, when

560
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Speaker 1: you look back at the primary pieces that were responsible

561
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 1: for this win for the Raiders at least offensively, Davante

562
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Speaker 1: Adams and Josh Jacobs. A lot of times they've had,

563
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Speaker 1: you know, games where Davante has gone for two hundred

564
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: and Josh hasn't had as much of an impact or

565
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: vice versa. This time they got both of them, and

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Speaker 1: Davante was a big reason why they are will to

567
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Speaker 1: come back and get this thing in over time. And

568
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 1: then same goes for Josh Jacobs of course walking it

569
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Speaker 1: off at the end. So they're putting it together, um,

570
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: you know after some real struggles here, uh and and Bucky.

571
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Speaker 1: I think about that in the landscape of another team

572
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Speaker 1: in the a f C West that has really struggled,

573
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Speaker 1: the Broncos, which we'll talk to you here in a

574
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: little bit, but they haven't been able to figure it out,

575
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: while the Raiders might seem to kind of be piecing

576
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: things together here under their first year head coach. So anyway,

577
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: but back in this game, and the Raiders and car

578
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: and Jacobs and Adams. That was really imprisive. You know,

579
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Speaker 1: it's funny because you name the players, and I think

580
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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels. It's kind of a theme of the show.

581
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Speaker 1: We talked about players in that place. Josh McDaniels has found. Hey,

582
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Speaker 1: if I want to write the ship, make sure the

583
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Speaker 1: ball goes to Josh Jacobs, Davante Adams, and Derek Carr.

584
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Speaker 1: You make sure you get good decisions. But the ball

585
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: is going through those guy and I'm not worried about

586
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: anybody else, And the Raiders have been able to win

587
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: because of that. On the other hand, I fear that

588
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: the clock has struck midnight on the Seattle Seahawks Cinderella

589
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: run like. It was great watching Geno Smith do his thing.

590
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 1: He was leading the league in completion percentage and all

591
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Speaker 1: those things. It's been a nice story to see the

592
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Speaker 1: Seahawks kind of bounced back from I would say low

593
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Speaker 1: expectations and a disappointing season a year ago to being

594
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Speaker 1: competitive and relevant and a fun story. But right now,

595
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: back to back week, So the last two times we've

596
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Speaker 1: seen the Seattle Seahawks come out, they haven't been able

597
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: to get it done. And now We're beginning to see

598
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: some of the cracks in the foundation of the team,

599
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: and so I think they'll be competitive. They'll continue to

600
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: fight and give what they have to make it Ver

601
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: very tough on the forty nine is to win the division,

602
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: But right now, I don't think this team has enough

603
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: gas to get to the winner circle. Nice story, but

604
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: I think I think it's over in terms of them

605
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Speaker 1: being a viable contender to finish it off as a

606
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: playoff team. Now. At least there's hope there with see

607
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: and they are holding a very high draft pick courtesy

608
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: of the Denver Broncos, so that's a good spot to

609
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: be in for them. Next week though, the two teams

610
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: we just discussed, Chargers at at Raiders is going to

611
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: be a big one there. It's it feels like a

612
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: must win game for both teams, both coming off a

613
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: little bit of an emotional high with a with a

614
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Speaker 1: late game win this past week. So I gonna look

615
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: forward to that one. By the way, Scouters delight packed

616
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: twelve Championship in Vegas on a Friday, I think I

617
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,239
Speaker 1: might go out there and get that one in and

618
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Speaker 1: then just stay over Saturday, have a little Vegas day

619
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Speaker 1: and then Sunday we get the Chargers Raiders. So things

620
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: looking up for this guy over here. I can tell

621
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Speaker 1: you that right now, I'll take it all right. We're

622
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Speaker 1: gonna take a little break. We come back. We've got

623
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Speaker 1: a few more games to get to, including the Bucks

624
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Speaker 1: and the Browns, and a big win for Cleveland as

625
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: they get ready to welcome back to Shaun Watson. We'll

626
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: get you there right after this. This was a big

627
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: one for the Cleveland Browns as they're trying, I guess

628
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: to to somehow stay alive in this thing in the

629
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Speaker 1: a f C. They go on the road. Uh, they

630
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: take on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They get a big win,

631
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Speaker 1: their fourth win as they get ready to welcome back

632
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. Biggest takeaway from this game, yeah, you know,

633
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: want to think about it, It just goes back to

634
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: the theme of the show, which has been players not plays,

635
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 1: and you go back to what the Browns decided to

636
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: do in overtime. And now we have given Kevin Stefanski

637
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: a fair amount of criticism here this season for abandoning

638
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: some of his biggest players in the biggest moments ala

639
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb. A lot of times who disappears late in

640
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: the games, even when they're leading. So I go back

641
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: to the last drive in overtime. Had to have it right,

642
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: had to have it for the win. If you want

643
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: to salvage your season, give DeShawn Watson a chance to

644
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: lead you to the postseason. Two players touched the ball

645
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: outside of Jacoby Brissette, your best wide receiver, Marie Cooper,

646
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: and arguably your best player in Nick Chubb. Cooper for

647
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: seventeen yards to start to drive. Two back to back

648
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: runs from Nick Chubb forty six yard explosive to a

649
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: Marii Cooper that sets you up down deep in Tampa territory.

650
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: You go back to Nick Chubb and then one more time,

651
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb punches it in. Do not even think about

652
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: leaving it in the hands or on the feet of

653
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: your rookie kicker who has been very up and down

654
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: this year. So it's Chubb, it's Cooper. Nobody else touches

655
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: the ball as it should be or players like that

656
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: in situations like that to try to get a win. Yeah,

657
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: there's star players. Um, you mentioned it on offense. How

658
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: about we flip over the other side. When you look

659
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: at Myles Garrett in this game two sacks to third

660
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: down sacks where he wins right off the snap. He

661
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: is just such an elite player. He's such a dynamic player.

662
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: And I think about the opportunity he's gonna have, and

663
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: this all comes back to Deshaun Watson coming back. You

664
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: get Shawn Watson back, you start letting this Brown's team

665
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: play with more of a lead. Who's better equipped to

666
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: play with the lead in the NFL than the Cleveland Browns.

667
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: When you have Miles Garrett, when you get that pass

668
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: rush cranked up, and you have Nick Chubb as a closer,

669
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: this is I mean, look, there's there's a tall order

670
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: ahead of them. But Buck, when I look at this

671
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: here and I look at their games, they they're gonna

672
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: play Houston, right, DeShawn Watson going game, playing on the

673
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: road against Houston, he kind of gets his feet underneath him. Again.

674
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: We look, we can talk about We've talked a bunch

675
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: about all the stuff that happened with Deshaun Watson as

676
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: a player. When he's on the football field, he's the

677
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: top five quarterback in the NFL. So you add him

678
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: to this bunch Houston, then you get two division games

679
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: Cincinnati in Baltimore, New Orleans, Washington, Pittsburgh. Is it. Would

680
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: you be shocked if this Brown's team went and ran

681
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: the table here and went and they end up ten

682
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: and seven and in the tournament. I mean I wouldn't.

683
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: I don't think that's undoable at all. Go ahead, Rhett.

684
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: Do you guys remember the team from the a f

685
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: C last year that ended up losing the Super Bowl?

686
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: They were also ten and seven. The bank just throwing

687
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: throwing that out there. It can happen. Yeah, it's not

688
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: out of the realm of possibility. I believe the Shawn

689
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: Watson also led the Houston Texans on like a nine

690
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: game win streak back in like sixteen or seventeen. Like

691
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: it's these things can be done. Yeah, I think it

692
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: absolutely can be done. I think the big thing will

693
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: be how long does it take Deshaun Watson and knock

694
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: off the rust and what kind of game playing can

695
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: chemist to Fan sky Uh put around Deshaun Watson to

696
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: allow him to kind of ease back into his role

697
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: as the franchise quarterback while relying on the other pieces.

698
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: Because the pieces around the Shaun Watson are certainly good

699
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: enough for this team to play at a high level.

700
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: We've talked about Nick Chuff and Kareem Hunt on Mark

701
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: Cooper on the outside. We saw David and Joeku make

702
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: big plays, but it's about the quarterback getting comfortable in

703
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: this system and making enough plays to get them going.

704
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: So maybe it takes two, three, four games for him

705
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: to find his group, but if he finds his groove

706
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: while they're winning, you're right to Cleveland. Browns could certainly

707
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: factor into the mix by the end of the season

708
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: as a playoff contender that kind of gets into the

709
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: back door and get into the tournament. But in the tournament,

710
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: we've been talking about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I think

711
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: Tom Brady has scared us so much over the last

712
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: few seasons that were we were reluctant to dismiss the

713
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: Buccaneers as a playoff team because Tom Brady's the Boogeyman.

714
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: But I don't know if the Boogeyman can save the

715
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 1: Buccaneers right now. And the reason why I say that

716
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: is because we've seen this team up and down all year,

717
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: a team that on papers looks like they should be

718
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: good to go, They should be ready to compete, they

719
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: should own the division like this division should have been

720
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: there is considering all of the turnover and the stuff

721
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: that's going into NFC South, the fact that they haven't

722
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: just sees control over that makes me worry. And the

723
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: up and down nature of their office and defensive performances,

724
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: it just doesn't give me a lot of confidence that

725
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna figure this out. So I'm worried. I'm worried

726
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: about the Buccaneers ever living up to the expectation that

727
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: we have for this team, because we thought Todd Bowles

728
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: was left with a team that was going to help

729
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: him having media success, and I don't think that's the case.

730
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: The more that I look at the Buccaneers played between

731
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: the lines, Yeah, no, it's uh, it's a division, man,

732
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: what it's kind of a gross division. If we stay

733
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: inside that division, though, we go to the Carolina Panthers,

734
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: who are right there in the middle of it. Man,

735
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: st Ronald goes back, Sat Barnald goes back into the

736
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 1: starting lineup. He plays an efficient game. I'm gonna get

737
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: to him in a second, But as I would love

738
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: to do, I would love to start with Steve will

739
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: Suck because we both know he went to Appologian State,

740
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: go ahead. He's one of my guys. He did go

741
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: to athletic State. I want hold that against him. I'm

742
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: fine with the Mountaineers right now. But Seve wils has

743
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: done a really good job. The Panthers are three and

744
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: oh at home under Steve Wilkes, and what we've seen

745
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 1: from this team is this team is very, very competitive.

746
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: He has been able to take whatever foundation and Matt

747
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: Rule left. He's been able to kind of polish it

748
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: up and get this team to playing solid ball. And

749
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: he's done it while making some very very hard decisions.

750
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: We're talking about Sam Donald, but let's talk about the

751
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: way this defense is playing. Kind of cleaned up the

752
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: way that they were playing in the back end. Has

753
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: this team playing to the standard that was established when

754
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: Robert Barry and Steve Wilkes were there previously, and so

755
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: the players are talking about playing Carolina Panthers football, which

756
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: is about playing great defense and being very opportunistic on offense.

757
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: So he has done a really good job of getting

758
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: the culture back right and giving some confidence to the quarterback,

759
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, who I think should be and maybe will

760
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: be the starter to the rest is a season, because

761
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: I do believe there's a field that he can help

762
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: this team get over the hump when it comes to

763
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: the way that they're performing and being very, very consistent

764
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: in terms of their play in between the lines. Sam

765
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: Donald is twenty five years old. Um so this whole

766
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: thing that his story has kind of been written is

767
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: not true. And this is somebody who hasn't had a

768
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: chance to play behind a good offensive line. I think

769
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: this offensive line is getting better with Carolina, but I haven't.

770
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm just I'm married to my college report

771
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: and I know it hasn't worked out thus far for

772
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: Sam during his career. But you saw some big throws.

773
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: You're looking at one of them right now on the screen.

774
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: He still has a ton of ability everything that I've

775
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: ever been told about where he's been. He's a fantastic teammate,

776
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: he's a good leader. Um so there's a lot to

777
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: work with there, and it's still five years old. I

778
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: think when you look at the success Geno Smith has

779
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: had this year and you take somebody with talent with

780
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: good makeup, eventually this thing might click for him. And

781
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: I hope, I really hope it does, because he came

782
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: into the league in such a bad spot with where

783
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: the New York Jets. We're at that point in time.

784
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see Sam Donald in this kind of

785
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: extended audition he might get for the rest of this year.

786
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: And Rett, this is a team with Sam Donald, quarterback,

787
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes doing a great job as a head coach,

788
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: and a crumbing division that might find its way into

789
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: the postseason. What a feel good story that would be. Yeah,

790
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: And look, I think there's there's some skill position talent

791
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: there for them to utilize down the stretch. And I

792
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: think we've we've kind of understood now that the Panthers

793
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: are a run team. Deonta Foreman, Chuba Hubbard Uh combined

794
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: for over a hundred and sixty in this game, Like

795
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: they can get it done on the ground. And then

796
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: when you have an explosive passing game behind you, like

797
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: a talented wide receiver in d J. Moore, you know,

798
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: who only caught four passes but went over a hundred

799
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: yards in this game, which shows you that Donald can

800
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: get it out there and can make things happen, um

801
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, down the field, which it just hasn't hasn't

802
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: felt like we've seen that consistently this year. P J.

803
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: Walker did some good things before he got injured, but

804
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: utilizing Dj Moore and understanding that you can ground this

805
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: thing out too, you know, and kind of the way

806
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: that the the Tennessee titens to. But you've got more

807
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: ability to to push the ball down the field explosively

808
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: in the past game like it gives you some some

809
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: actual like credence to the idea that they can hang

810
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: around in the NFC sound and find their way into

811
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: the dance because their defense is playing pretty good. To

812
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: Brian Burns is just an absolute record of offensive lines

813
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: and was again in this game. Yeah, I know he

814
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: played great. And the production has always been there for

815
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: Brian Burns, and you watched him this year. I think

816
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: it's been more impressive the way he's been able to

817
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: get it done, the way he's been able to handle

818
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: his business on that side of the ball and brings

819
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: a lot of juice and a lot of energy to

820
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: that side of the ball. Buck Russell Wilson, I'm not Look,

821
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: we never want to advocate for coaches to get fired

822
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: on here, we understand, and Rhett has, you know, come

823
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: from a family where a dad worked for a team,

824
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: and in that Buck's been on the playing side of

825
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: what I've worked with organizations and mid fired. I don't

826
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: want to advocate that, but can you can you imagine

827
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: any scenario and which Hackett is back next year for

828
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: this team? As bad as this looks right now, now

829
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: you know and here's here's the bad things about it.

830
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: Right when you talk about when you're talking about Russell

831
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: Wilson and the way the Broncos look offensively like they're terrible.

832
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they're often. It hasn't got better throughout the

833
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: course of the season, regardless of whether he's going to

834
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: play somebody else that's going to place. There's something off

835
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: and Russell has not played great. He hasn't done this.

836
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: But guess what, when you pay Russell Wilson two million dollars,

837
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna get every opportunity to fix it. And he's

838
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: going to have that opportunity into six. So the easiest

839
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: way to change the narrative is maybe to switch the

840
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: pieces around, and particularly those who are setting up the

841
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: offense and crafting destructure of the team. I just feel

842
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: bad for the Broncos defense, because the Broncos defense is

843
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: good enough to be a playoff team. Offensively, they've got nothing,

844
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: and so I put a lot of that on Russell Wilson.

845
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: He's the leader of the team. He's the guy that

846
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: they're building around. And when we talk about quarterbacks, particularly

847
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the forty million dollar club, they're supposed to

848
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: elevate those around him. He hasn't elevated this team and

849
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: it's a disappointment and ultimately coaches will fall into sword

850
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: because of his underachievement. But really, man, you gotta look

851
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: at number three. Number three has not played well enough

852
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: for this team to win. And you know, I think

853
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: there are questions that come off that like, all right,

854
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: what's you know what? What truly is this scheme fit

855
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: like for Russell Wilson? Are they doing the things that

856
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: best accentuate you know, his skill set? And then you

857
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: look at that from the coaches side of things in

858
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: a first year head coach, Nathaniel Hackett in the first

859
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: time head coach, and you're like, all right, um, you

860
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: know had some struggles early on from the head coaching standpoint,

861
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: while the offense, which which kind of like you know, uh,

862
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: covered up the fact that the offense was was really

863
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: struggling and has been and continues to be. He gives

864
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: up play calling so you've taken that one away from yourself,

865
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: and now that's and it's still not working. It's like

866
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: you have you're out of cards to play here, and

867
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: so yeah, it does. It does feel like things are

868
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: mounting towards change in Denver, and that's unfortunate. And and

869
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: you do like to see teams exercise some patients, but

870
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: in order to earn patients, you need to show prob

871
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: ress and that's what we haven't seen. And that's the

872
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: most troubling part of this whole thing. DJ That could

873
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: be chapter seven of the book right there, in order

874
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: to show patients, in order to have patients seemed to

875
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: see progress, and you haven't seen that at all there

876
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: in Denver. It's just ugly. It's ugly, ugly, ugly offensive

877
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: football to watch right now. You know what's not ugly

878
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: is the New York Jets and their new quarterback Mike White.

879
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna come back

880
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: and discuss what we saw in that one in their

881
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: big win over the Bears, as well as talk about

882
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: a champion amongst us. We'll do that right after this break.

883
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to this Jets game here, guys, Jets,

884
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: they're all over the Bears. That I should mention that

885
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: justin fields less Bears. So it was Trevor Simeon out there.

886
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: So not a full strength operation there for this Bears team.

887
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: But the story for me was as it was for everybody.

888
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: Mike White getting the start, and I wanted to look

889
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: at the tape and see what I saw from Mike White. Again,

890
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: didn't get to this game live, so uh, no idea

891
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: what the perception is. Obviously the numbers you see on

892
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: the screen tw three, three touchdowns, a huge pass rating

893
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 1: at one four nine point three. That all look great,

894
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: but I want to see what it looked like when

895
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: I popped on the video, and what I saw was

896
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: a was a fit. And what I mean by that

897
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: is this is an offense that is a timing, rhythm,

898
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: touch offense. Those are the three best traits of Mike White.

899
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: Now you put a big time pass rush on Mike White,

900
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 1: everything starts to collapse around him. I think, Okay, maybe

901
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: see some of the shortcomings. The offensive line played well.

902
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: This Bears team, which I think is second to last

903
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: in sacks. They don't have a lot of pass rush

904
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: to put on yet, so he was backfoot and clean pockets.

905
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: The ball was going where it was supposed to go.

906
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: It was going on time and rhythm, and it was

907
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: very accurate. I thought he played outstanding, and I think

908
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: you can start to see maybe why they you know,

909
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: why they made this move. I was curious about the

910
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: timing of it with with Zach Wilson coming off playing

911
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: some really good defenses. I thought, Okay, they'll give him

912
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: a shot here against a bad Bears defense. But even

913
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: taking that into account, I just thought the way this

914
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: offense moved and operated was totally different under Mike White.

915
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: And maybe, you know, maybe there's a chance Zack Wilson

916
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: can get to that point. But Buck, you've used this phrase,

917
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: and I love it because you talk about the basketball

918
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: side of playing quarterback. You talk about shooters and scores,

919
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: and some offenses are for scores to be able to

920
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: create make things happen. That's what your role is as

921
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: a point guard. And then there's offenses where it's about

922
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: rhythm and shooters. And this offense, this La Fleur Mike

923
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: Lafloor offense is a shooter offense. It's not a score offense.

924
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: I think Zach Wilson is a score. I think Mike

925
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: White is a shooter. Does that make sense? That absolutely

926
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 1: makes sense because Mike White is catch and shoot spot

927
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: up in the corners. I'm gonna sit here, I'm gonna

928
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: do exactly what you want me to do. I'm not

929
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: going to freelance. And I think the other thing outside

930
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: of that is DJ we talk about like in basketball ternams,

931
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: there's some guys that whenever you go to the court,

932
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: they always find a way to win, no matter who

933
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: you put on their squad. If you play pick up,

934
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: they are always the winning team. Mike White appears to

935
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: have some of that in him. And we can say this,

936
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: and it's one of those things that you can't necessarily

937
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 1: quantify when we're looking at quarterbacks, but like ability matters.

938
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: When guys like playing for you, there's something about it.

939
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: And when you hear all the voices coming out of

940
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: the locker room and what you hear they love playing

941
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: with Mike White and the White receivers in particular Garrett Wilson,

942
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: Alijah More, they love playing for him. After this week

943
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: because the ball found their way to them. And so

944
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: when you get Gary Wilson getting off getting two touchdowns,

945
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: you have Alijah more reappearing and reminding us of how

946
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: talented he was when he was coming out. Well, now

947
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: this offense does look different, and with the defense that

948
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: the Jets have, they don't need their offense to play

949
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: at a level. But if they're in like B B minus,

950
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: they can win a lot of games and make a

951
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: playoff run. I think Robert Sala and the higher ups

952
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: deserve a lot of credit because they were able to

953
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: ignore the draft position and really focus what was best

954
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: for the team. And right now it's clear Mike White

955
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: being the quarterback for the Jets is best for his

956
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: team's prospects as a playoff contender. Speaking of draft position,

957
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure there's a team better positioned as we

958
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: get into April and as we turn the calendar and

959
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: our gear and our focus really shifts towards you know,

960
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: all Star game season, combine Pro Days and draft than

961
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. The Chicago Bears, now at three and nine,

962
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: have moved up a spot and are number two in

963
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: the projected NFL draft order. Even if they were at three,

964
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: They're in a phenomenal spot because you assume those first

965
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: two spots are gonna be taken on any order. Of

966
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: c J. Strout or Bryce Young or if perhaps you know,

967
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: another quarterback jumps into that mix, which you know, I

968
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: don't know if that's the case right now, but um,

969
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: so they're sitting there at two. They're gonna be able,

970
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: and they have their quarterback. I think we can all

971
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: agree that they're comfortable moving forward with Justin Fields. Uh.

972
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: And so they're gonna have their choice of the best

973
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: defensive player in the draft, which of course I think

974
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, as of right now we all think is

975
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: Alabama Ed dreusher will Anderson, which would be great because

976
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: the Bears can't get after the passer and traded away

977
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: their best pass for your uh, and Robert Quinn earlier

978
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: traded away uh Rokwan Smith as well to the Baltimore Ravens.

979
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: So they need help on defense and they're gonna get

980
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: plenty of it right there with an absolute studd a

981
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 1: number two. So they are truly in a really good

982
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: spot there, Texans running away with the number one overall pick. Uh.

983
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: You know, you love to feel good about Davis Mills

984
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: moving forward, but I don't know if they're gonna be

985
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: able to say that they're in Houston. So it really

986
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: feels like the Bears. DJ. You're gonna be in a

987
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 1: great spot here, no doubt. Um. This is a Bears

988
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: team that's got a nice foundation now to build off of.

989
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: Especially when you get the quarterback right now you can

990
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: go build around him. UM. I don't know if you

991
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: guys remember the song walk like an Egyptian if that

992
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: seems like it was a million years ago, because it

993
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: was the number one hit in seven Also the last

994
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: year that Granada Hills won a c IF championship. That's

995
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: how long it's been. But now with coach Bucky Brooks

996
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: at the helm, this team has been turned around, and

997
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: this team is coming off of a championship this past weekend.

998
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: As we look at some of the highlights here, Buck

999
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: has done a phenomenal job of building up this program.

1000
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: Just running the ball down people's shows. Completed passes not necessary,

1001
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: no need to apply, We don't need to complete passes.

1002
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: We're just gonna go run the ball down your throats

1003
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: each and every week. Uh and Rhett, I don't know

1004
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: this should be a surprise to a lot of folks

1005
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: that know Bucky because we know a how smart he is,

1006
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: we know how well he knows this game. And we

1007
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: know how he relates to two kids. I've seen it.

1008
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: We saw it together when we were out at the opening,

1009
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: watching him coach at the Nike event and being around

1010
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: young kids. They love being coached and mentored by Bucky.

1011
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: So tremendous amount of pride for us as the podcast

1012
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: for what Bucky has done as a head coach. And

1013
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: look at these comments from from his player. Here is

1014
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: stud player in Darryl Stanley, just thanking Bucky for all

1015
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: he's done and uh and mentioning one of the greatest

1016
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 1: manners mentors anyone could ask for, really truly loving his coach.

1017
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: So Wrett, I'll let you brag on Buck before we

1018
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: let Buck tell us how this whole thing went down. Well,

1019
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I mean, you're about to surpass John

1020
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: l for the most notable football accomplishments there at at Granada.

1021
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: I mean, like, that's that's some phenomenal work there to

1022
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: to claim the title and and to keep moving on.

1023
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: So congrats to you guys. That's awesome. It's been great

1024
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,959
Speaker 1: seeing you, uh, you know, put so much work into

1025
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: that here and and and just maintain you know, being

1026
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: one of the best football minds and media as well.

1027
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: It's uh, that's you do yeoman's work every single day.

1028
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: So Buck, congrats to you, my friend. Thanks my guys.

1029
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate the kind of words, and I really appreciate

1030
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: the podcast because the podcast has been a master class

1031
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: for me in terms of learning leadership and coaching stuff.

1032
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: All the guys that we brought on, the lessons that

1033
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm able to kind of gleam from those guys that

1034
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: have come home from Brian Kelly and Matt Rule and uh,

1035
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: some of the other coaches that have come through, like

1036
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: really asking them questions and then you know, like having

1037
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get around young people and to talk

1038
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: about football, but to use it as a game to

1039
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: kind of elevate them and their self esteem and give

1040
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: them pride in knowing that they can accomplish great things.

1041
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: I was really excited that see them win, so some

1042
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: of that stuff was validated. They can take that and

1043
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: help them kind of pursue whatever it is that they

1044
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: want to do in the future endeavor. So look, it's

1045
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: been great. It's been a lot of fun. I'm really

1046
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: excited about it, and we're just gonna see where it

1047
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: ends up. Let's go home nicely done. Luck, nicely done,

1048
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: and let me just tell you, let me just let

1049
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: me look, Bucky's never gonna talk trash, so let me

1050
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: do it right now. LC Spencer, all you guys from

1051
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: Laguna Beach, Okay, you're screwed because Granada Hills is coming

1052
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: and we're gonna tell chair as we move on to

1053
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: the state state playoffs and we're gonna get after m

1054
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: I would give you some other names from that show,

1055
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: but honestly, those the only two I remember. Uh. Who

1056
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: was the other girl, Kristin Christian Cavalary. There's a football

1057
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: connections also on that show. Yeah, nice, all right, that's

1058
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: gonna do it for today. That's a fun pack show.

1059
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: Anytime you can mix in a little Christian Cavalry at

1060
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: the end of the show, it's it's a good show.

1061
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: You can find more Move the Sticks content on the

1062
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: NFL's YouTube, nfl dot Com, the NFL channel, the NFL app.

1063
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: It's all out there. Pre change you guys hanging with us.

1064
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: Congrats again to Buckey on a c i F championship

1065
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 1: and we'll see you tomorrow right here on Move the sixth.

1066
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: Want to