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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to sixty seven,

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Speaker 1: episode four of Dirt Ali's Ice Day production of I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Thursday, December.

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Speaker 1: It is December. Okay, everybody cool with that? Lie? I mean, yeah, fine, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is all right, Miles two couldn't be anymore two? Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: look throwing the bad bunny because it's national where your

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Speaker 1: Pearls Day open, Herder's Day, Bill of Rights Day, International

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Speaker 1: Tea Day, now day. I've been drinking a lot of

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Speaker 1: English breakfast. What frands was it here? Tas oh oh Jack. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just in it for the caffeine without

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Speaker 1: it being coffee, you know, a lighter caffe nation in

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Speaker 1: the morning. Mate. You already know Harry Kane had that

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Speaker 1: massive miss in the world massive. I almost called you

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Speaker 1: and said, Harry Kane massive when he made the first one.

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Speaker 1: Some people I think tweet tweeted that ship in me

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Speaker 1: actually when he missed the penalty, like Harry Kane massive,

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Speaker 1: like yeah up yeah, And then I jinxed you last

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Speaker 1: night because Russ had two buckets, you know, over time

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I texted you for us, and

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Speaker 1: then it was more of a Russ Russ for us. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we are a lot of people don't realize this, but

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Speaker 1: we do determine the outcome of NBA games just through

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Speaker 1: our magical jinxing behavior. You want to know how bad

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Speaker 1: I jinxed it. When there was three minutes left, I

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Speaker 1: was like, okay, we got this. I'm getting the memes ready.

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Speaker 1: I googled mere cat because that's why I think what

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Speaker 1: Joe Mossola looks like. He looks like a mere cat.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, wait till I hit the group

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Speaker 1: chat with this one dancing on him. And then it

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Speaker 1: turned like when I started to see the pendulum goal,

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Speaker 1: I x the funk out of the window, like, oh god,

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Speaker 1: I did it. You texted me whoa and I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I might have to tell went and checked it, and

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Speaker 1: uh it was bad news from there on anyway, bad news.

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Speaker 1: We're wet boys. No further explanation needed. I'm proud to

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Speaker 1: as always by my co host, Mr Miles grow Gray

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Speaker 1: a k. It started with inherited well from the Emerald

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Speaker 1: old guy, babo monkeystead from the look inside their brains

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Speaker 1: de boo, let that sink because I'm circling round that train.

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Speaker 1: Don't buy you a horse if you don't booh shout

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Speaker 1: out to Salvador Jolly. I haven't. I haven't heard Usher

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Speaker 1: and Alicia keys my boo in the second. But the

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Speaker 1: fact that you put my boo for they nonsense at

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Speaker 1: the Chase Center. Thank you, Salvador Jolly, and a jolly

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Speaker 1: one to you as well. A nice reference to him

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Speaker 1: trying to get a hand job with a horse at

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Speaker 1: the end. There wasn't that, yeah, I guess like trying

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Speaker 1: to get say He was like, I'll buy you a

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Speaker 1: horse if you have sex with me, which if you

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Speaker 1: don't say are you say you didn't have sex? And

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Speaker 1: it's hard. Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. But we have

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Speaker 1: someone here who can help us just kind of work

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Speaker 1: our way through the galaxy mind of Elon Musk. We're

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a

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Speaker 1: hilarious and talented actor, writer, director, comedian, and the host

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Speaker 1: of the new podcast Man Thinkers on our sister network,

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Speaker 1: Big Money Players. Man Thinkers is a satire of the

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Speaker 1: modern world of manfluencers, like a Colbert Rapport per hour time,

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to the show. George Caraman, Wow, I'm here.

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Speaker 1: What an introduction. I wish I could be introduced like

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Speaker 1: that just every day, all the time. Hier. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm dude, you guys, you guys are good hype man. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What's that? What's that? What was that position called when

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Speaker 1: like somebody entered a party back in the rich white

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Speaker 1: people days and they're like Jacques O'Brien, O'Brian family. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you love the O'Brien's. Yeah, what's what was that called? Caller?

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Speaker 1: Was that their only job? The caller? The caller, the crier,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, town crier. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 1: that feels like and then would they fucking like shape

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Speaker 1: you if you're like, yo, they didn't have like the

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Speaker 1: Bruce Buffer of criers over the Yeah, they had some

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Speaker 1: mother Oh wait, no, Bruce Buffer is the off brand one, right,

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Speaker 1: it's his brother, Michael Buffer, Michael real Buffer. Yeah, they said,

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Speaker 1: oh they got Bruce Buffer, not Michael Buffer. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that I could differentiate between the two of them,

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Speaker 1: but maybe underestimating my skills, Michael Buffer is the hands

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Speaker 1: more handsome one. Like he looks like the Michael Buffer

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Speaker 1: of the two. His brother looks like off brand Michael Buffer.

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Speaker 1: And you're like, man, they need Michael Buffer. And you're like,

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Speaker 1: that's his brother. Man, he's Michael Buffer. Michael Buffer is

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Speaker 1: Michael Buffer. Yeah, George, how are you doing. I'm good, guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I can't complain, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Sun is shining as it usually is. Yeah, I'm good

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Speaker 1: here in sunny California. Yeah, you guys don't, alright, enjoy

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Speaker 1: the cold? Yeah? Yeah it is nice and chili. We

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Speaker 1: we don't get a lot of that. Although it was

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Speaker 1: cold weather taking a dog for a walk and the

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Speaker 1: cold weather is nice. See, I like the cold weather.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is when I'm from New York, from

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Speaker 1: the city, and when I go back, like I was

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Speaker 1: back for Thanksgiving, I don't mind the cold, but literally,

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Speaker 1: like you do not get but fifteen seconds of sunshine

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Speaker 1: hitting your body, right, I mean, because even if it's sunny,

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Speaker 1: to get the buildings blah, it's just like a short day.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what messes me up, Like that's

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Speaker 1: what causes the seasonal depression thing where I'm like I

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Speaker 1: need that starlight on my scam, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: like for a little bit. And I think that's it's

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Speaker 1: that for me more than the cold. Yeah, because like

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Speaker 1: like walking like mid day through Manhattan, like you're like

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Speaker 1: I'm forever in the shadows of these skyscrapers, and then

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Speaker 1: it's like jarring when you get to like Central Park

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Speaker 1: and it opens up a little bit, like yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: feel like a vampire you get this, and it's like real, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, Well, George, we're gonna get to know you

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Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking

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Speaker 1: about today, we're gonna talk about the Supreme Court just

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Speaker 1: just getting turned up at a partisan holiday party. Yeah

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Speaker 1: it was Brett, Brett Kavanaugh. We know, we know how

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Speaker 1: he feels about beer. He was kicking it with all

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Speaker 1: the the coolest of the cool on the right. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about the fusion breakthrough,

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Speaker 1: and my cynical side immediately asks the question, how are

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Speaker 1: we going to funk this up? I think I have

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Speaker 1: some idea And we're even going to talk about Fox

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Speaker 1: News freaking out over a tiny libraries Christmas decorations, and

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Speaker 1: the first shots in this year's war on Christmas have

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Speaker 1: been fired, and the battle was won by Jesse Waters.

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Speaker 1: According to Jesse Waters, like they got mad at the

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Speaker 1: decorations in a fucking public library. In a public library

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Speaker 1: that was fully decorated with Christmas decorate. It had a

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Speaker 1: big wreath on the door. Yeahs wrapping station, and they

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Speaker 1: were like, where's the tree. It was more like interior

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Speaker 1: decorating criticism than anything like it. We'll get to it

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Speaker 1: all of that plenty more. But first, George, we like

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Speaker 1: to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so from my recent search history is what is a

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Speaker 1: silent heart attack? And did I have one? Yeah? The

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Speaker 1: second part was more the motivation for what is a

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Speaker 1: silent heart attack? Because silent heart attacks are a real

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Speaker 1: thing that I didn't know about until I thought I

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Speaker 1: but of heart attacks are silent, which means you're not like,

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Speaker 1: You might be make the experience discomfort and whatnot. But

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Speaker 1: already had. That's trouble out. Yeah. I remember reading about

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Speaker 1: what the fuck? This isn't this? This is Yeah. This

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Speaker 1: We're like, oh, yeah, you had a heart attack just now. Damn.

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Speaker 1: It's scary, but it's crazy, and and a lot of

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, that's I just thought that's how you were living. Okay, No, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're good with that, right, Yeah, that's wild. So did

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Speaker 1: you did you look into it? Have you been to

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Speaker 1: like grandfather died of a heart attack. But they were

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Speaker 1: cold plunge situation, and I was doing twenty minutes on

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Speaker 1: a five minute plunge three times in a row, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm fucking let's go. Fuck yeah, And like

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Speaker 1: the third plunge, I was like, man, I really don't

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Speaker 1: like no, you can do it, like blah blah. And there's,

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Speaker 1: by the way, there's like eighty year old men in

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Speaker 1: this maybe not for five minutes, but like it's not

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm fine, jump in that third one.

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Speaker 1: And I got through it, and it wasn't until afterwards,

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Speaker 1: but dude, I couldn't even finish a sentence without having

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Speaker 1: woke up later that night with like heartburn, but I

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Speaker 1: it just gets bad. But I went to a cardiologist

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Speaker 1: and he ran like, um, just like a simple thing,

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Speaker 1: you most likely did not, but we can run more

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Speaker 1: But him saying I don't think you had one made

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Speaker 1: because that's when you will they'll be like, what the

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Speaker 1: funk was that? Yeah? Exactly. I remember I read an

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Speaker 1: interview with Margot Robbie or something. She was talking about

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Speaker 1: how when she first got to Laid, before she was famous,

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Speaker 1: she would go on auditions and she felt like casting

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Speaker 1: or who have producers whatever that she was auditioning forard

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Speaker 1: like when she walked in the room that they would

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Speaker 1: immediately judge her as like just like a hot, ditzy person.

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Speaker 1: And then when she actually like did the audition and

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Speaker 1: like was good that they were like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: she's the best actor ever. She's like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I deserve that response, but because people thought I

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Speaker 1: was gonna be dumb. The whiplash, the whiplash of it,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Hell yeah, totally lash. There

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Speaker 1: you go. Hell yeah, bro, alright, let's take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna come back. We're going to talk about a

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Speaker 1: celebrated thinker among men, Brett Kavanaugh, and what he's up

438
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Speaker 1: to now now that he got the past, is in

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court and still loves beer. And we're back,

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Speaker 1: and so I mean, like we started, I feel like

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Speaker 1: maybe was it at the beginning of last year. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Time is a fucking mess in these days,

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Speaker 1: especially during a daily Describe the feeling, don't try and

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Speaker 1: place it in linear time, and maybe I can find

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Speaker 1: you remember when there was the like liberal Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: justice who was talking about how he was not going

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Speaker 1: to retire because they call balls and strikes and like

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Speaker 1: he didn't think his fellow justices had any ideological bent.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember that that was? It don't seems strikingly recent.

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Speaker 1: Oh there's a recent memory I have where Briar, the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court justice who everyone was like, you better fucking

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Speaker 1: retired now, that we have Biden in the in office

453
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Speaker 1: and you know, Democratic houses, you better retired because you're

454
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Speaker 1: getting old. And he was like, I just don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't see it. The Supreme Court is, you know, just

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Speaker 1: we're all just out here calling balls and strikes and

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Speaker 1: this is somebody who has to deal with them and

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Speaker 1: read their opinions and like write the dissenting opinion on

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Speaker 1: this ship. And he was still trying to peddle that ship.

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Speaker 1: So he was that and that was like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, I feel well. And

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Speaker 1: also it's been a thing since like this this latest

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Speaker 1: wave of confirmation since Trump was in office, of like

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Speaker 1: they're not partisan. Okay, we're gonna ask them during the

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Speaker 1: confirmation you funk with like healthcare and like abortion access right,

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Speaker 1: and they'll say yes, and then it's fine. They said yes.

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Speaker 1: But it's clear to see now like the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: has just become this just overtly partisan body that's the

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Speaker 1: most traded weapon for the right wing. Yeah, and the

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Speaker 1: Federalist Society has done their damnedest to rebalance the scales

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Speaker 1: in favor of a conservative worldview. And there was a

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Speaker 1: time when like that take of like a Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: just to be like, excuse me, partisan, get a fuck

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Speaker 1: out of here now, how dare my chambers? Please? Please um?

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Speaker 1: And like they all insisted politics had nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with their decisions, but we all know that's bullshit. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas is basically a walking conflict of interest since

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Speaker 1: his wife, Jenny January six Thomas is a conservative activist

479
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Speaker 1: and also walking quan on post or four champ post,

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to however you want to describe that.

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Speaker 1: Alito and Amy Coney Barrett are like regular speakers at

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Speaker 1: all these parties and events, and like they laugh about

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Speaker 1: all the bullshit they have to go through since they're

484
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Speaker 1: the face of curtailing people's human rights, which brings us

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Speaker 1: to break Kavanaugh because he was at a holiday party

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Speaker 1: last Friday night at Matt Schlap's house. Now you say,

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Speaker 1: who's Match Schlap, maybe you know who he is. He's

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Speaker 1: the head of fucking Sea Pack. Like we talked about

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Speaker 1: when the actual Sea Pack convention goes down, because we

490
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Speaker 1: always call it like racist Coachella, because that's usually what

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Speaker 1: it is. Like it's just end to end fucking nonsense.

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Speaker 1: Being screamed at last year's Sea pack. They had a

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Speaker 1: like jail cell set up with a like mega in it,

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Speaker 1: like in you know, the performance prisoner uniform, like just

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Speaker 1: looking sad for the whole time, to be like this

496
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Speaker 1: is this is what has happened to us. These are

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Speaker 1: our political prisoners. Look at this photograph exactly. Oh wait,

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Speaker 1: I was almost gonna do the but you know, a

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Speaker 1: Schlap has been like salivated like the fucking cartoons, like

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Speaker 1: trying to unite right wing extremists from the US and Europe.

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Speaker 1: Like he even had seapack in Hungary because he wanted

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Speaker 1: to be close to victor Orbon And at the time,

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Speaker 1: victor Or like at the conference was saying that Europe

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Speaker 1: was quote committing suicide through immigration, and when Matt Slap

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Speaker 1: was asked about it, he said, well, rob Weight is

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Speaker 1: being adjudicated at the Supreme Court right now for people

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Speaker 1: that believe that we somehow need to replace populations or

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Speaker 1: bringing new workers. I think it is an appropriate first

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Speaker 1: step to give the enshrinement in law the right to

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Speaker 1: life for our own unborn children. You so us So

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Speaker 1: he's in that great replacement theory garbage. In anyway, a

512
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Speaker 1: sitting Supreme Court justice was rubbing elbows at this man's house.

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Speaker 1: Who was there? Just some people you might know, Matt Gates,

514
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Speaker 1: John Spicer, alex A Costa, Sebastian Gorka, Stephen Miller, fucking

515
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Speaker 1: Eric Prince of Blackwater Fame, Mercenary, King Baby, dream Team.

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Speaker 1: They got it all covered. Wait, which Supreme Court justice

517
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Speaker 1: was there? Oh? It was Brett Cavan So we wasn't there.

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Speaker 1: But but he did have a shirt on underneath I

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Speaker 1: think that said like the fun boy Prince of Rohoba

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Speaker 1: Beach and mind View. Stephen Miller has a like an

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Speaker 1: organization he started called America First Legal. They have they

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Speaker 1: have cases that are that are going to be heard

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Speaker 1: by the Supreme Court coming up, and this guy's fucking

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Speaker 1: just They're being like, oh, what's up, dude. So I

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Speaker 1: would be more outraged, but you know, it's I think

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Speaker 1: just the the there's been a great job of obscuring

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Speaker 1: how partisan the Supreme Court has been for many years.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, like it's just it's it's just wild to

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Speaker 1: be like, Okay, so this is where we're at. We

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Speaker 1: have completely like lost control of the Supreme Court and

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Speaker 1: that they're just openly being like, yeah, dude, I kick

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Speaker 1: it with fucking Sebastian Gorka and the homies. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: openly building a fascist movement like that's you know, global

534
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Speaker 1: global fascist movement, and where it's right at the right,

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Speaker 1: at the middle, it's in there. It's just wild because

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Speaker 1: you see like all the time, like like a law

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Speaker 1: professor was chining and they're like you, this is absolutely

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Speaker 1: like terrible for Supreme Court justice. I just want to

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Speaker 1: read the words of Emery. University School of Law professor

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00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: Tanya Jacoby said, quote Supreme Court justices should be extraordinarily

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Speaker 1: careful and not only having no actual ethical difficulties, but

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Speaker 1: having no appearance of an ethical conundrum as well. And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, do you think they give a fuck? Seriously,

544
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Speaker 1: I know some people believe that's how it is, but

545
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: we're taking people like we're just letting you know, the

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Speaker 1: process is allowing people who have no sense of like

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Speaker 1: what is you know what, like what's sanctified about the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court And like a lot of people like democrats,

549
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: like I just can't believe it, but you gotta believe it,

550
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: Like that's that's what the that's what the end game

551
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: is for these people. They're not playing by the same rules,

552
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: and it just feels like like pre Viking Europe where

553
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: people were like, don't worry if there's if there's a

554
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: cross on this building with all the gold in it,

555
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: people will know it's of God and they won't want

556
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Speaker 1: to go to hell or anything. Then Vikings showed up,

557
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: who are like, bro, we don't believe, we believe in

558
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Speaker 1: not saying, and they just took everybody's ship, and the

559
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: people like, oh what happened. It's like you're dealing with

560
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: the same thing. These people don't respect the same ideas

561
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 1: you have, so to act like they're gonna protect anything, Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's exhaustly. Yeah, the norms are gone. Nobody,

563
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: nobody is shocked by anything. I was going back through

564
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: the tweets of the year because we're doing a like

565
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Speaker 1: social media year and review for when when we're off,

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Speaker 1: and there's this one from at one red chay or

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Speaker 1: gh E conservatives we want to murder all people with

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Speaker 1: pronouns in their bio liberal snort we as a pronoun.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's like, that's the level the fight

570
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Speaker 1: is happening, Like gotcha with with the word play instead

571
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Speaker 1: of they're they're they're pretty there they seem to be

572
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Speaker 1: taking this seriously, so maybe maybe we should. It's like

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Speaker 1: getting robbed and being like, oh, well somebody's broke. Yeah,

574
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: you're like, uh yeah, but they're still gonna make you

575
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Speaker 1: run your ship. So what have you actually done here?

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Speaker 1: Georgia as somebody who has to inhabit the mind and

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Speaker 1: personality of you know, so someone who is is kind

578
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Speaker 1: of friendly to this way of thinking, how do you

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Speaker 1: think about this just a general state state of our Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's look, it's sad like if you uh, you can

581
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: go that route right where it's like super depressing. I

582
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Speaker 1: think like one of the things that stands out to

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Speaker 1: me a lot with like because you know, I have

584
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Speaker 1: to first of all, let me say this. So you know,

585
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: my show, like like you said, like we're kind of

586
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: satirizing these types of guys and these types of podcasters

587
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: and whatnot. So like on YouTube and whatnot, you know,

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Speaker 1: I will watch a bunch of like Jordan Peterson videos

589
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: or Benja Pio videos or whatever for like ideas, you know,

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00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: because we do scripted bits too, and like now you

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Speaker 1: see how the algorithm works, because if you go to

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Speaker 1: my YouTube own page, you would think I was like

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Speaker 1: out of my fucking mind and all I did was

594
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: watched like, you know, fucking twenty of these bits that

595
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: are like three minutes long. But you see how it's

596
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: just the more that content you consume, the more and

597
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: more extreme ship they start like recommending to you, like

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Speaker 1: the al Goes. And then I'm like, oh, this is

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Speaker 1: how it happens. Like you watch the Jordan Peterson video

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Speaker 1: where he's like clean your room, and you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with someone saying clean your room, I guess,

602
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: and then like six months later it's like neo Nazis,

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00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's like and it's like, oh, funk.

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Speaker 1: Like that to me is probably one of the most

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Speaker 1: oppressing aspects of it. Is like if we didn't live

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Speaker 1: in a world where we have Algoes feeding us what

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Speaker 1: it thinks we will, like, would would people would as

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Speaker 1: many people be being pushed out to the extremes that

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Speaker 1: they are, you know what I mean? And that's kind

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00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 1: of sad. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to say how

611
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 1: much the like Chicken and Egg of like the algorithm

612
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: versus like just the overall fascist movement, like it's all

613
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: but so intertwined is yeah exactly, do you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, the last the last like super big

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00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: rise of fascism coincided with you know, the invention of

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Speaker 1: like the loudspeaker and radio becoming very popular and you

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00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: know phil and TV and like things that could reach

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. And it feels like, right, well,

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Speaker 1: when we don't have those things locked in and like

620
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Speaker 1: they get out further than we're able to kind of

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Speaker 1: deal with it as a species, this tends to be

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Speaker 1: the initial reaction is just let the fascists kind of

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Speaker 1: go wild, like you see that on just chat rooms.

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Speaker 1: If if a chat room isn't moderated, the fascists come

625
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Speaker 1: in and just start wrecking the tone and start like

626
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: saying horribly offensive things, and and they try and normalize

627
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Speaker 1: that behavior where it's like it almost becomes numbing to

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Speaker 1: someone where it's like, well, there's so much of this ship.

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Speaker 1: Maybe this is just normal. Obviously you're not having a thought,

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Speaker 1: but this is subconscious erosion of people's minds. Like I

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Speaker 1: US used to say, like if Trump was like as

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Speaker 1: crazy as he is, I always felt like he would

633
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Speaker 1: actually have been more hated and less popular because I'm like,

634
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: he's so insane and so many that he's he says

635
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: so much crazy ship that it becomes numbing to people

636
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: where it's like did you see what Trump said? Or like, yeah,

637
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: well it's Trump. Whereas if he had, if any other

638
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: president had said one of the things he said, it

639
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: would have been a fucking uproar, you know what I mean.

640
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Speaker 1: But it's you know, that's who he is. That's his

641
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: reputation is just like insane, insane ship saying racist ship,

642
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: whatever it is. And then people just like are like

643
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: used to it in a in a fucked up way,

644
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, flood the zone with ship is absolutely

645
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: is a stated strategy of you know, Steve Ben Flood

646
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: the zone with ship. Speaking of Trump, I mean, it's it.

647
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: It's probably worth talking about this Fox News freak out

648
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: over libraries Christmas decorations because another threat to our society.

649
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: Another another huge streat to our society. So it became

650
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Speaker 1: a major news story. It was basically one library and Deadham,

651
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: Massachusetts population twenty five thousand, opted not to put up

652
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Speaker 1: a Christmas tree this year. One person patron of the library,

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Speaker 1: Oh I guess it was a branch supervisor, wrote a

654
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: Facebook post with Facebook is where all the good discourse

655
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: is happening, complaining about the decision, pleading please bring Christmas

656
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: back to my beautiful library. The post didn't mention that

657
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: the library was still packed full of Christmas stuff. There's

658
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: a giant wreath on the door, Santa elfin, snowman decorations

659
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: on the desk inside, like the front desk, first thing

660
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: you see. There are Christmas DVDs and books prominently displayed

661
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: for the season, and there's even a gift wrapping station.

662
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: And also there's a bunch of Christmas trees in the

663
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Speaker 1: town hall that you like walk past to get to

664
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Speaker 1: the library, and in a community garden just steps away

665
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: from the library. So it's like somebody had to draw

666
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: a border in their mind and be like, these Christmas

667
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: trees don't belong to the library, so it's not fair.

668
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: But this, of course prompted news outlets to descend on

669
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Speaker 1: the town because of a angry Facebook post. They interviewed

670
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: angry residents, one of who complained that the library is

671
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: celebrates other holidays like Pride Week, Fourth of July, Thanksgiving, Kwanza,

672
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: and the Jewish holidays. Interesting, but I'm also this person

673
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: is wild, They complained they're like, yeah, you know the

674
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: dumb ship like fourth of July. I'm like, okay, what

675
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: it's so weird? This person is probably like like a

676
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: has like a fringe political ideology too, like they're homophobic,

677
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: but they're also like Thanksgiving celebrating a genocide, Like is

678
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: that what you're saying or you're just anti Turkey? But anyway,

679
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: I thought that was an interesting dates that he chose,

680
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: and they are, by the way, they are also celebrating

681
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: Christmas to a to a wild degree with a gift

682
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: wrapping station. And but Jesse Waters of course picked us

683
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: up reported that the first shots have been fired on

684
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: the War on Christmas graphic, claiming there's a Scrooge among us.

685
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: You might remember Scrooge, the character of famously had a

686
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: wreath on his door and lent out DVD copies of Elf.

687
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: That yeah. The publicity led to the library staff being

688
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: bullied and threatened online. The town eventually said they would

689
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: put trees up in the libraries, claiming that much of

690
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: the backlash transpired before we had even started our seasonal decorating,

691
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: so this was like all based on a conversation that

692
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: they possibly misunderstood. But Jesse Waters this show proceeded to

693
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: Docks the library director like out this person who's just

694
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: trying to do their job and called her a grinch.

695
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: They were like, she's the town's library director and she

696
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: banned Christmas and then claimed that the decision to put

697
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: a tree in the library was due to pressure from

698
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: his show. So there's a victory for them. It's just

699
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: our writer, Jam points out, one of the very few,

700
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Speaker 1: because this isn't even technically like they hadn't put up

701
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: their Christmas decorations yet when this controversy started. The only

702
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: time that you can really find an incident of a

703
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: Christmas tree band in the news you have to go

704
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: back to the eighties. And we've talked about this in

705
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: the past, the time that Donald prevented his tenants from

706
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: having a tree or even Christmas decorations in the apartment

707
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: building he owned in the eighties. Mm hmmmm mm hmmmmmmmmm.

708
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: It's they're so worried about Chas, they're just grasping it ship.

709
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: It's just so weird, just flailing at ship. Like remember

710
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: remember it was like Biden really jumped the gun on

711
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: his decorations. Meanwhile, they were outside lighting up their fucking

712
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: Christmas Tree in New York like the same fucking day,

713
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: like hours before they even ran that story, and now

714
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Speaker 1: this one is there wasn't tree. Yeah, you know what

715
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's so I at at a certain point,

716
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Speaker 1: I'm sure this is also why like they're like having

717
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: trouble with like voter performance too, because like I get

718
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: that there is some sense of outrage like if you're

719
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: if you're living in this ship of like what is

720
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: happening to Christian America or whatever, But I think there

721
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: for other people who might not be as invested in that,

722
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: it's hard to like keep that kind of outrage up

723
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: that actually be like that We'll get you to the

724
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: point where like and the world needs to change and

725
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to dedicate myself to that because the steaks

726
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 1: are much higher for people living on the other side

727
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: of the coin who are like asking for real things

728
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: like fucking healthcare. So I'm like, it's just it's odd

729
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: that this is always just the way they chum the

730
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: waters with it, like lazy fucking outrage ship, because this

731
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: feels like even their producers are like wait, wait, wait,

732
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: so like there's others like maybe they're saying happy holidays

733
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: like no, no, they're saying Merry Christmas or their trees,

734
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: Like no, there's sucking trees like all like in the park,

735
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: like in the city hall, like on your way in,

736
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 1: but inside like the next gift wrapping station. I didn't

737
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Speaker 1: see a tree. Fuck alright, man, well yeah, it's really

738
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: a difference of opinion of interior decorating, like holy shit,

739
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: yeah it's uh yeah, well grinch trees are infensive. Yeah

740
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Speaker 1: have you man? I try, I try to buy a

741
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: mini fucking tree. I have a reusable one because I can't.

742
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: Like I remember one time I wanted to tree the

743
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: six ft tall and like six years ago, like that's

744
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: a minimum like hundred ten hundred ten dollars. I was like, shout,

745
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: get my reusable one. But even like the small ones

746
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: are like or maybe that's just the l A And yeah,

747
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: I think I think it's all pretty expensive. I'm ranting

748
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: about trees, you know, ye, not the kindy smoke, that's right. Yeah, alright,

749
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Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll be back to talk

750
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: about fusion. And we're back, and the news out of

751
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: science is undeniably good. Scientists at a lab in California

752
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: created the first breakthrough a nuclear fusion technology that seems

753
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: to suggest we might be on a path to be

754
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: able to create clean, sustainable energy using basically the same

755
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: power as the sun, but here on Earth, just like

756
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: create a little sun from this l a Times article

757
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: last week, for the first time, they designed this experiment

758
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: so that the fusion fuel stayed hot enough, dense enough,

759
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: and round enough for long enough that it ignited and

760
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: produced more energy than the lasers head deposited. Which that's

761
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: that's what you need. The net energy game was about

762
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: two mega jewels in about three mega jewels out. I

763
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: was reading all about him, like, I don't know what

764
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: a fucking mega jewel is? Is that like a vapor cartridge?

765
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: Like what the funk are we talking about? But there

766
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: are plenty of articles that were like, hey, dumbass, this

767
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: is why this ship is freck important. And I'm like,

768
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: oh shit, because normally, right we're using fission reactors in

769
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 1: nuclear power plants, which are splitting atoms and create radioactive waste,

770
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: like in the form of spent fuel rods. This is

771
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: literally fusing them to create an energy like a net

772
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: energy game and has no like has none of the

773
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: pitfalls of like fission reactors. It's clean, which I was like, oh, okay,

774
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: so no like Chernobyl Fukushima type ship also infinite, like

775
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: it's clean and once you get it going like it's

776
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: it's a party for for all to have fucking energy.

777
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: That was like that's when I was like, I see,

778
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: I see that is that's big. Yeah. Yeah. It also

779
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: generates three to four times as much energy as fission,

780
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: which itself is already roughly a million times more powerful

781
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: than any other energy source on Earth. So how many

782
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: times more roughly a million times more powerful, a million

783
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: times more? Wait? How many? How? Wait? How what's fusion? Is?

784
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: How many times more than fishing? Three to four times

785
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: as much as jesus if that's wow? Okay, yeah, so

786
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: it's very very intriguing, very promising. Still, like the fact

787
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: that we don't use fission, the thing that's already a

788
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: million times more powerful than the their energy that we

789
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: have available to us. I think that has more to

790
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: do with it not fitting into the world's preferred paradigm

791
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: of the moment, which is global corporate capitalism. Like you

792
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: you need the government to intervene and handle a nuclear reactor. Essentially,

793
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: that's not a thing that can be like easily privatized.

794
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: You can't just like find some you know, plutonium rods

795
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: and you know, become a nuclear billionaire overnight. You know.

796
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's like we already have a

797
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 1: fairly when when you look at like people writing about

798
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: the nuclear energy that we have available to us through fission,

799
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: like it's already pretty safe, and you know there are

800
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: some downsides, but not nearly the amount of downsides that

801
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: fossil fuels have. But you know, through a steady drum

802
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: beat of like disaster movies and overblown news disasters, it

803
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: keeps it as something we're afraid of, and I don't

804
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's that they're all overblown, I

805
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: mean not all over like compared to swaps of a

806
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: nation like unforsaspable. I think it's bad, but I get

807
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: I get the point because I think my first reaction

808
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: is like nuclear bad. No, yeah, Simpsons, three eyed fish. Yeah,

809
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm specifically like from the Simpsons. I'm trained to be

810
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: scared of nuclear energy for sure, but greenhouse gases have

811
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: like killed way more people. Yeah, George, why do you

812
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: have a similar reaction? What's your first thought when you

813
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: hear nuclear energy. I mean, I like you and just

814
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: assume it's bad. But I'm like, I don't know. I

815
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like, if we had a thousand

816
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: nuclear plant nuclear energy plants in America, would that meant?

817
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: Would that be all? Wouldever be it? Like? Would that

818
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: be the only energy we would need? Because I feel

819
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: like I've read stats like that where it's like, you know,

820
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: it wouldn't take that many nuclear power plants around the

821
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: world to like power the entire world. Yeah, It's like

822
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: it's and in my understanding is it's clean until there's

823
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: a Chernobyl, But then when there's a Chernobyl, that's really

824
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: fucking bad and you get the thread fish like he said,

825
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So how many how many

826
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: tronols have we had? So we've had like two or

827
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: has there been a bunch more than I that I

828
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: don't know about. There's Fukushima there, There's definitely been some

829
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: high profile disasters, and there there is something I think

830
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: naturally that scares us about like such a sort of

831
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: hard to wrap your mind around, like form of power.

832
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: But I definitely don't think fission, especially is without its flaws.

833
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: It's just when you look at what gas like and

834
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: cold has has done two people. You know, it kills

835
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Speaker 1: them in ways that they're comfortable with. I guess right,

836
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Speaker 1: you know, well, I guess comparatively, like you have more

837
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: deaths from fossil fuel burning energy generation you would like

838
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: these nuclear or you know, like millions or something. Yeah,

839
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: like way, way wait wait wait way more. Yeah. I

840
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: think that's what makes the fusion thing so exciting is

841
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: where you go, well, guess what, None of that is

842
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: a possibility with fusion. In fact, like you can't even

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Speaker 1: make nuclear weapons with fusion, like a fusion reaction type

844
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Speaker 1: like facility. So there's like all this stuff. You're like,

845
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: it's actually the best fucking way possible. And but then

846
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: like and I'm like, okay, great, so we're out of

847
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Speaker 1: the woods. But again, I feel like they only were

848
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Speaker 1: able to do that in a small, controlled like experiment,

849
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Speaker 1: and now it's about scaling that up to like a

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Speaker 1: commercial level, which they say is like maybe a couple

851
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: of decades away. But yeah, yeah, there was there was

852
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: this lake near my college that was man made, and

853
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: there was a nuclear power plant nearby, and the lake

854
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: was always warm, and the local people were like, yeah,

855
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: the power plant, Like it's just because you know, like

856
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: the like the pipes or some ship like running. It's

857
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: like so it's always warm, it's always warming it. And

858
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: I was like that sounds bad, Like that sounds really bad.

859
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Speaker 1: Like we're swimming in like a man made lake. It's

860
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Speaker 1: a hot spring and hot a nuclear powered hot spring. Nuclear. Yeah,

861
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Speaker 1: you guys want to go swimming at the nuclear hot spring? Yeah,

862
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: you want to go to three eyed Frog Lake? Right? Okay.

863
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: It is again like talking about things that are like

864
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: really intertwined. It's hard to figure out how much of

865
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Speaker 1: it is just like a natural fear of like, well,

866
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: radiation is this thing that we don't like fully understand.

867
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: We know as bad as compared to fossil fuels, But

868
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: there's also been a concerted smear campaign by fossil fuel

869
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: companies to make nuclear energy terrifying because gas is something

870
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: one person can you know, put in a truck and

871
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: sell to another person. And you know, nuclear power you

872
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: need government level budgets to invest in a power plant

873
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 1: that requires you know, massive infrastructure resources, and then everything

874
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: you know from there is much more efficient. But that's

875
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: not a thing that you can like easily incorporate into

876
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: the system of the money system of the world. And

877
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: then also like the most most of the money in

878
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: the world are a great deal of the money in

879
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: the world, at least at this time, is tied up

880
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: in the current system of global capitalism and private privatization

881
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: and deregulation, and this would move and you really, you

882
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: really want to closely regulate these nuclear power plants. They'd

883
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: be like whoa, whoa, whoa, everybody's getting electricity now for

884
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: like cheap off fuck because they're already like you think,

885
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 1: how hard, like fossil fuel companies for fighting solar energy

886
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: and like, but but technology has gotten to the point

887
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: where they're like, sorry, like this one's just gonna get

888
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: away from you more and more as more people are like, well,

889
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: funk it, then I'll put on my house if I

890
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: have to. Like the idea where they're like, well, fun, man,

891
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: they just a fucking sun gives them that and this

892
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: thing makes like a son basically that they can exploit

893
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: the energy off of. That's like a fucking nightmare for

894
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: like a lobbyist whose interests are like, gotta keep gotta

895
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: keep the fucking dinosaur bones at the forefront. Yeah, guys,

896
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: you want to burn up dinosaur bones or some weird

897
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 1: freaky science future ship. Come on, y'all, I'm with dinosaur bones.

898
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Speaker 1: This might sound like a dumb question, but why is

899
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: fusion so much harder than fission? Like? What is it

900
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: that has made the fusion things so like out of

901
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: our reach? No clue? Okay, respect, I couldn't tell you.

902
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: I wish this was that kind of podcast. Could Could

903
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: it be that fission was you know, easier to turn

904
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Speaker 1: into a weapon, and so they you know that they

905
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Speaker 1: were out at the cutting edge of that, and had

906
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Speaker 1: there there were more resources investment in it. I don't

907
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Speaker 1: know that that makes sense to me, But I actually

908
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Speaker 1: haven't done done the research. It just might be, you know,

909
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: from a science perspective, like much more, much more difficult.

910
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: But I just I'm interested to watch how this story unfolds,

911
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: because you know, I have absolutely no doubt that the

912
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Speaker 1: global corporate order will find ways to sabotage the use

913
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Speaker 1: of nuclear power in this form as well, or at

914
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Speaker 1: least try to. But I also think they'll be going

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Speaker 1: with the grain of you know, the hive mind of

916
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: global capitalism, and and people naturally will just kind of

917
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Speaker 1: want to reject this even though even though it I

918
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Speaker 1: don't know, it has a good head start because the

919
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: first thing we're finding out about it is like they

920
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: created a son in a lab as opposed to you know,

921
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Speaker 1: nuclear weapons. So and maybe a benefit the lazy Google

922
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Speaker 1: search I did is that it just takes way more

923
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Speaker 1: energy to fuse atoms than to split them. That's the

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Speaker 1: other thing. And the amount of pressure and all this

925
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: other stuff they have to recreate refusion to take place

926
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Speaker 1: just much harder than splitting an atom and make ship

927
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Speaker 1: go boom. I mean it's metaphor, right, It's way way

928
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: harder to like bring things together than just destroy ship. Yeah,

929
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Speaker 1: and then look at and look at the unbelievable power

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Speaker 1: unleashed in people and the things coming together versus a part.

931
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Speaker 1: A good metaphor, a good metaphor. But yeah, did you

932
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: guys see that thing with Christopher Nolan recently about Yeah, like,

933
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Speaker 1: so what did he do? He like, he's he's bragging

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Speaker 1: that he cru is able to recreate an atomic blast

935
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Speaker 1: without c G I. And then everyone's like, so wait

936
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Speaker 1: are you saying, what did you do? You blew up

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Speaker 1: like a small atomic But I didn't quite understand. Yeah,

938
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: we just saw the headline. It to me, it sounds

939
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Speaker 1: like he was able to create a mushroom cloud, you know,

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Speaker 1: which doesn't necessarily need like an atomic bomb to do.

941
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I have a feeling that wouldn't put it

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Speaker 1: past sick. Yeah, I mean a mushroom cloud. Do you

943
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: guys get that on camera? Yeah. It's also why when

944
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 1: you look back at like the history of the US

945
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: and you know, during the Cold War there they were

946
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: just so cavalier with nuclear weapons. They're just like bombing,

947
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: just like bombing you know, places in the desert, like

948
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: within you know, sight range of Las Vegas. All the time,

949
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Speaker 1: they had like a Las Vegas beauty pageant that was

950
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Speaker 1: like Mrs a bomb and like you see, like as

951
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: the beauty pageants happening, you could see like mushroom clouds

952
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: in the distance. So I'm sure that also didn't help

953
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Speaker 1: with people's willingness to you know, the fact that it

954
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: was mostly a weapons thing for like when it first

955
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: came on the scene. Yeah. Well, and yeah, and also

956
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: we just have the worst examples when you hear the

957
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: word nuclear or atomic, it's not like yeah, and like

958
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: the jet pack that saved everyone's life, it's like Adam bombs,

959
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: you know that horrible shit or Chernobyl you saw that

960
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: on HBO anyway, that and then your immedia like, yeah,

961
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: but bring on the fusion please, And I think, honestly

962
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: it may I know, like there is a obviously we

963
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: know that something that we could just be like infinitely

964
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: replicated like and created like energy is a bit of

965
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: a kind of gross idea to fossil fuel companies, but

966
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: I also feels like it gives like society the out

967
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: to like where they're like, no, man, if we can

968
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: just do fucking this, then we can fucking eat the

969
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: meat and do fucking everything else, and then we can

970
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: just just nip this part in the butt and then

971
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: have free energy for everyone. So who knows. I mean

972
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: we're not we're not exactly about doing the work in

973
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: this country. So yeah, I certainly saw it. I was like, wow,

974
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: science really did it. Yeah, I mean, it'll just be

975
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: interesting to see if we're willing to use it. But well, right,

976
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: and then the and the other thing being is we

977
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: can't wait twenty to thirty years, so then be like alright,

978
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: clean energy. It's also we need to be doing that

979
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 1: ship yesterday. So at least we had a breakthrough. Well, George,

980
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: pleasure having you on the daily Zeitgeist? Where can people

981
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: find you? Follow you, hear you all that good stuff? Yeah,

982
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: well everyone should check out the Man Thinkers podcasts with

983
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: big money players. Also an iHeart media podcast. Wherever you

984
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: get your podcasts. If you guys, you know listeners like

985
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 1: the Colbert Rapport or like Jon Stewart era Daily Show.

986
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: It's more of that vain. You definitely like the show

987
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: and then follow Man Thinkers on Socialist just at Man

988
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: Thinkers and for me it's just at George Caraman, k

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Speaker 1: r e m An follow it up. There you go.

990
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: When is there a tweet or some of the work

991
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: of social media you've been enjoying. You know, I was

992
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: thinking about this and I haven't been obsessing over anything recently,

993
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: but there I was kind of feeling all the White

994
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: Lotus like theme song remixes that we're going down in

995
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. Have you guys heard any

996
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: of that stuff? I heard like Out a wild House

997
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: remix like a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, I was

998
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: just I was. I thought it was cool how so

999
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: many people were into that theme song, and I made

1000
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: me wonder, like now, did. Is the show as big

1001
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: as the theme song? Or is it's just the theme

1002
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: song that's taking off? Do you know what I'm saying?

1003
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Speaker 1: I like the show. I watched the show, but in

1004
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: my mind I feel like people, at least on social media,

1005
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: that theme song blew up more than the actual show itself.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, the theme song is

1007
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: great and apparently like the intro if you like, look

1008
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: at the actor's names that are on screen, like next

1009
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: to the painting, like the name there's like symbolism and

1010
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: stuff involved. Is it's well done? Well done? Right, well done, guys,

1011
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. This is a pleasure. Was online,

1012
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: super fun talk with you guys today. Miles, where can

1013
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 1: people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying? Uh?

1014
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray, check Jack and

1015
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: I out new episode of Miles and Jack got mad

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Speaker 1: boost These just dropped. You can hear us, or at

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Speaker 1: least hear me half panic about having to play the

1018
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Speaker 1: Celtics and it turns out I was right. Also, if

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Speaker 1: you like ninety Day Fiance, check me and Sophie Alexandra

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Speaker 1: out on four twenty Day Fiance. Uh. You know just

1021
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: having a laugh, some having a bit of a last Uh.

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Speaker 1: This one is just from at requiem. Arm Jesse tweeted,

1023
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Speaker 1: L O L look at this dip shit I saw

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Speaker 1: on the street and it's a picture Rudy Jeulian like

1025
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Speaker 1: the sidewalk, squinting so hard at his phone and it

1026
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Speaker 1: just feels like the most real, like look at this

1027
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: dip ship kind of photo. Uh. And I just love

1028
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: that because he's got like his outfit is wild. He

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00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: looks like if Oswald cobble Pot got into streetwear or

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00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: like big baggy draft day suits. That's a reference to

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00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: the penguin's original name from Batman. And he's got like

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00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: sketcher shape ups on underneath. I don't know, it's very

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00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: dip shitty, so shout out to you. Yeah, he's just

1034
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: squinting at his phone. He's doing that thing where his

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Speaker 1: phones on here and he's like, you can find me

1036
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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien I like to tweet from.

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Speaker 1: Zack bud Rick tweeted, everybody at the office got mad

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Speaker 1: at me because I said, Ship's Creek seems like a

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Speaker 1: show for straight wim men who have bast shortt parties

1040
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Speaker 1: at k bars and it seems it seems accurate. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it seems right that people got mad at him. Fuck you, Zach,

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Speaker 1: that's not cool. Leap Ship's creek alone. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get I don't want to run

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Speaker 1: a foul of the Ship's creek. You don't want to

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Speaker 1: be up Ship's creek due exactly, they don't. You can

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Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at Daily Zeke Guys. We're at

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Speaker 1: the Daily Zi Guys on Instagram, we have a Facebook

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Speaker 1: fan page and a website Daily zip Guys dot com.

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Speaker 1: Or we post our episodes and our foot note squirrelink

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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,

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Speaker 1: what something do you think people might enjoy? Oh? I

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Speaker 1: just want to play some and People's the source material

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Speaker 1: for Mr Elliott's Can't Stand the Rain. This track is

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Speaker 1: called I Can't Stand the Rain because it's fucking sample

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Speaker 1: people's and dope instrumentation. I was It's funny. I was

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Speaker 1: listening to this and then super producer Brian was like, wait,

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Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on, is that al Greens band?

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Speaker 1: And when you listen to it. You could it sounds again.

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Speaker 1: Everybody was using the same backing bands and it was

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Speaker 1: Al Green's band. Uh you can if you're like kind

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Speaker 1: of a musician, or you can't hear it in the

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Speaker 1: snare drum and that horn section the Memphis Hordan's anyway

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Speaker 1: and Peebles, I can't stand the rain enjoy all right? Well,

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Speaker 1: The Daily Zeka is a production by Heart Radio from

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Speaker 1: favorite shows. That is going to do it for us

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Speaker 1: this morning, back this afternoon to tell you what's trending

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you all then Bye bye