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Speaker 3: Betting on a game.

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Speaker 2: No moment's gonna tell us what you can not be

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Speaker 2: And making that baby, I'm hanging with the Fellers. He's

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Speaker 3: Bro there it is good after me and ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to another episode of Busting with the Boys,

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Speaker 3: Episode too sixty one. After the Conference Championships. Let's go boys.

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Speaker 3: We had a hell of a lot of ball today.

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Speaker 3: We are going to get into the Conference championships. Mitch

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Speaker 3: is gonna have himself a massive possible redemption day. When

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Speaker 3: it comes to the twisted Question of the Week presented

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Speaker 3: by Twister Tee. If you need one of those pipers

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Speaker 3: in AMBV but don't tuck out right now. But what

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're prepping, We're prepping. Yeah, yeah, we had

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Speaker 4: Stu Finer, incredible interview. The interviews like two hours and

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Speaker 3: A movie, yeah, a Mafia movie if you are so good.

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Speaker 3: So you're watching on YouTube and when Stuke comes on

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Speaker 1: Really, is what's that Rumble?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Rumble or Rumble or if you're on Rumble or YouTube,

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Speaker 3: I can't do that.

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Speaker 4: Hey in the in the and they call the action

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Speaker 4: like being we uh barstool were We're doing a deal

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Speaker 4: with the Rumble, big opportunity to show that the boys

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Speaker 4: move audience. So if you're watching right now, wherever you're

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Speaker 4: getting this podcast, audio, video, whatever the case may be,

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Speaker 4: head over download the Rumble app follow busting with the boys.

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Speaker 4: Let's get these numbers up. We're all starting ground floor

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Speaker 1: For the boys. You don't even just do it for

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Speaker 4: And that's that's my call to action, because arm and arm, right,

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Speaker 3: Time, busting with the boys in a contract to your boys.

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Speaker 3: We are in a contract here. And what better way

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Speaker 1: Oh for today is in Monday. Today is in as

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Speaker 3: Steve cal Col's dog, Steve was Steve is truly when

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Speaker 3: Couple of therapy session. Because I know very little about noodling,

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Speaker 4: Like I guess you could like die, like you can

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Speaker 3: Imagine choking a bear of that thing that is actually

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Speaker 4: If you guys noodle say we did ah say, they

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's the snapping turtle thing that gives me a

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Speaker 3: See I think that honestly, what it's not the end

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he lost that finger. How did it happen? No

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But once you get in the conversation like, oh man,

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Speaker 3: I really do all that. Yeah, I'm actually going on

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Speaker 3: That's not just taking a pink no that you know,

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Speaker 3: you're showing a big boy, a big hawk guy.

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Speaker 1: That's that deep oval holes.

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Speaker 3: Dude, that's a lot things doing that thing's giving you

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Speaker 3: a manny petty. That's not a big deal at all.

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Speaker 3: Who's that guy that two turned Tony? That his name.

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Speaker 3: He's got a duck, but he's also got a video

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Speaker 3: he catches a snapping turtle like rolls one of his

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Speaker 4: When we were talking to that Amazonian psychopath in New York.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he like overheard us. I don't even know we

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Speaker 4: But this guy was talking to saying that you go

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Speaker 4: There's like monsters, massive anacondas everywhere, like just massive animals.

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Speaker 3: We flew and we grabbed a bike before we went

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Speaker 3: talking about anacondas that make like trenches like legit have

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Speaker 3: Tell me, uh, Ayahuasca, that's exactly what we're talking because

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Speaker 3: Like I but I think it's very like the idea

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you do. You you vomit everywhere. I

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Speaker 3: You saw you saw my little tweet I posted out

439
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Speaker 3: about Bubba four one two. I mean, you can tell

440
00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,040
Speaker 3: he makes bad life decisions based on the Maryland tattoo

441
00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,240
Speaker 3: on his chest and his profile picture. Guy was talking

442
00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,040
Speaker 3: all kinds of trash. Hit me again in the DM, saying,

443
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Speaker 3: ha ha, you're gonna try better than that. I don't

444
00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,720
Speaker 3: gotta try much. You gotta love, Yeah, you gotta love

445
00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,440
Speaker 3: the fight and I respect it. University of Arizona alum.

446
00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if the kids from Arizona, but good

447
00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,440
Speaker 3: for him. Ravens fans, you guys will get there. The

448
00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,159
Speaker 3: issue is is you're in the same conference as the

449
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Speaker 3: baby goat.

450
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Speaker 1: And the referees. I'm just saying.

451
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Speaker 3: And there was one bat save Flowers fumbled, Say Flowers fumbled,

452
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Speaker 3: but man, he doesn't fumble.

453
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Speaker 1: He said.

454
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Speaker 3: If he breaks the plane, you win the game. You

455
00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,480
Speaker 3: you win that game. The penalties that were called, and

456
00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,000
Speaker 3: there was the conspiracy. Did you guys see week going

457
00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,359
Speaker 3: up to this conspiracy theories about the refs. These refs

458
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,520
Speaker 3: are that were calling this game, the AFC Championship game

459
00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,960
Speaker 3: apparently do like thirty percent more calls on the home

460
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Speaker 3: team than any other ref reffing crew. And all of

461
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,840
Speaker 3: the NFL. There was there was legit conspiracy theories going

462
00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,840
Speaker 3: on about this, how the NFL wants needs Travis Kelsey,

463
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,879
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift, Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs in the Super Bowl,

464
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,280
Speaker 3: and so this this officiating crew was put in place

465
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,920
Speaker 3: to help guide that. Now you want that, though, yeah,

466
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,360
Speaker 3: what you do want, like the most advantageous for all

467
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Speaker 3: parties involved is Mahomes, Kelsey Swift. Yeah, there was also

468
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Speaker 3: a thing I saw on Instagram this morning. Obviously game

469
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Speaker 3: of my news from Instagram, but who knows if it's

470
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Speaker 3: really real or not. NFL the revenue generated since Taylor

471
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Speaker 3: Swift has been introduced into the NFL this year, it's

472
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Speaker 3: like thirty three million dollars. It might even be three

473
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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty three million dollars, Like I forget if

474
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,600
Speaker 3: I'm missing a zero or not. There's no question she's

475
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Speaker 3: She's also creating jobs like the watch super the tickets to.

476
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Speaker 1: This game.

477
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 3: She just one is nine thousand dollars. This is not

478
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Speaker 3: the year to not be in the league, buddy. Not

479
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Speaker 3: that we sell now you can't sell them. For the

480
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 3: NFL rules, you can't sell. But if you wanted to,

481
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,159
Speaker 3: as players, you get them at a wholesale price and

482
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Speaker 3: you're able to handle yourself. Yeah, give him to a

483
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Speaker 3: family or something. Give to a family member for nine

484
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars that family member as well off. And uh yeah,

485
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,919
Speaker 3: I mean we have a whole live reaction show on

486
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 3: this if you guys want to go tune into that.

487
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,120
Speaker 3: We had obviously we'll already touched on how many people

488
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 3: came and to wash it was, it was awesome. But

489
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 3: this game, it's truly just Patrick mahomes.

490
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Speaker 4: Many and on the Taylor stop creating jobs like Kyle

491
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Speaker 4: juice check, how do you see you check? His wife

492
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Speaker 4: like she's been doing designing all the you know, she

493
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:53,360
Speaker 4: designs basically like fang gear for like the women who

494
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 4: are supporting their their other on the field, more.

495
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 3: Flowers and that they take jerseys, game warn jerseys and

496
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 3: she implements them into jackets, shirts, different clothing apparel.

497
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Speaker 1: It's incredible.

498
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 4: And then she made one for Taylor Swift, just to

499
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Speaker 4: make one on the low leg because obviously she can't

500
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 4: sell this stuff because it's licensed and everything else. But

501
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 4: you're just wearing it again to support you've seen kittles.

502
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 4: She obviously Kyle's wife reps it Kittle's repped it.

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Speaker 1: She made one for Taylor Swift. She walks to the

504
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Speaker 1: game with this jacket on, with the jersey. She put

505
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Speaker 1: the jersey over the jacket and since then overnight gained

506
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Speaker 1: like half a million followers. And the NFL, I believe,

507
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 1: is licensing a deal with her to make that kind

508
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Speaker 1: of gear. That's incredible, dude, isn't that awesome?

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Speaker 3: U Check's wife.

510
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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's just like like all that, like the arts

511
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Speaker 4: and crafting of making.

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Speaker 1: All this stuff up.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure, I'm sure you'll be looking at it on

514
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Speaker 4: the screen right now. But she kind of does this

515
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 4: for a lot of the wives and girlfriends in the NFL,

516
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Speaker 4: just to like do it for fun. But now it's

517
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Speaker 4: called win because Taylor Swift wore to a game and now.

518
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Speaker 1: She's got to deal with the NFL to like make

519
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Speaker 1: this gear.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only one big loser in this whole Taylor

521
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 3: Swift saw that on this big cat like she has won.

522
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 3: She's want everybody's heart. So I think I think at

523
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 3: first we were a little kind of peeved, like, hey,

524
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Speaker 3: this is a little too much, because like, let's get

525
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,199
Speaker 3: back to the game a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Mich was so pissed off in the beginning.

527
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Speaker 4: Was he like, oh, it takes away from the guys

528
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Speaker 4: who've been working their whole lives to get on the

529
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Speaker 4: screen after they score a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Fayler Swift, it was that.

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Speaker 7: It was that one time when Pacheco scored and immediately

532
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Speaker 7: it went to Taylor Swift.

533
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Speaker 3: And it was in his hometown too, right, it was.

534
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Speaker 7: In uh when they were playing the Jets. Okay, it's

535
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Speaker 7: like the first game she was at, but that part

536
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Speaker 7: michs lived. But they've gotten better.

537
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Speaker 3: We almost didn't have a podcast that week because Mitch

538
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 3: couldn't calm down.

539
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like a list. I'm not going to produce

540
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Speaker 1: this episode.

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Speaker 5: Like mich Swift though, because the broadcast put her on

542
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 5: last night and you can see her in the suite

543
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 5: looking at the TV seeing herself in like a real

544
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 5: time and you can see your mouth go away, like

545
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 5: cause she's like getting annoyed herself being put on the broadcast.

546
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Speaker 3: So did she seems like a I'll just say this,

547
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Speaker 3: she seems like a real one. Dog, thank you for

548
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Speaker 3: saying that, do you not, Jamie?

549
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Speaker 6: I don't have I have no idea if she's a

550
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Speaker 6: real one.

551
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: I just you think you could still be theatrics.

552
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Speaker 6: The relationship, Yeah, no, the relationship could be real. But

553
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Speaker 6: I just I'm I'm just not the biggest Taylor Swift fan.

554
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 6: I don't like hater, but I.

555
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: Like your music.

556
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 6: My I think she she puts off, she puts out bangers,

557
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 6: all that stuff. But it's and I know they're teaching

558
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 6: classes about Taylor Swift now in college, like marketing, brand management,

559
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 6: like all this stuff, how she blew up. But I

560
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 6: just think, like, there's so many more talented people in

561
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Speaker 6: that industry than Taylor Swift, and it just I don't know.

562
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Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, man, like that's a hater, hater. I

563
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: think she makes good music.

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Speaker 3: You can have incredibly talented people that don't have the

565
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 3: drive to push in the direction she did. Though. Taylor

566
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Speaker 3: Swift started as a sixteen year old girl seeing Tim

567
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Speaker 3: McGraw and put it Yeah, put out it out, and

568
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: then had had the capability and the wherewithalf to pivot

569
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 3: from country music and now go into this electric pop

570
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 3: star that has taken over the entire world, to project

571
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 3: herself into the three comic category in the bank.

572
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Speaker 1: Account and going after big label.

573
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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know much about that I was okay with.

574
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Speaker 1: This big label created her. That's what I'm saying.

575
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Speaker 6: If you without Screwter Brown, without like that marketing machine,

576
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 6: does somebody she's a great songwriter, Does somebody with that

577
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 6: level of talent make it all the way to the top. Yes,

578
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 6: they screwed her, but ultimately it went really well for her.

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Speaker 3: We're not talking about the top where we're talking about

580
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 3: two continental divides clashing together and growing and growing, growing,

581
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: just like Mount Everest. Taylor Swift has taken the top

582
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Speaker 3: to a new level.

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Speaker 1: Who's the other who's the other kind? Who's the divide?

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Speaker 3: That's that's how Mount Everest got made. The idea is Pangaea,

585
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 3: and then the two continents came together and slowly pushed

586
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 3: themselves up. And every year the the Mount Everest grows

587
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 3: like like six feet or six inches something like that,

588
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 3: but it incrementally gets bigger and bigger every single year.

589
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Speaker 1: That's a great analogy.

590
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Speaker 3: Thanks brother, And I'm glad I got to explain it

591
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,719
Speaker 3: because I know there's somebody that comments, going this guy,

592
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 3: I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. He just

593
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: made that whole thing up.

594
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 4: Like I guess that's in the game in the world

595
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 4: of like who's the who's the most talented. I'm just

596
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 4: saying with the entire microscope on Kelsey and Swift this year,

597
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 4: being able to kind of like watch her and observe

598
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 4: throughout the entire year, like seeing her after the game,

599
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 4: seeing the way it's all went down, Like seeing the

600
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Speaker 4: way the families are kind of engaged. It just seems

601
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Speaker 4: like they have like a true relationship going on.

602
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Speaker 1: I don't who knows.

603
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 4: If it's like the glitz, the glamour, everybody's caught up

604
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 4: in the moment, who cares having fun, but they really do,

605
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 4: Like I don't know, I mess with she seems like

606
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Speaker 4: a real one.

607
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Speaker 6: I think her being a part of the Kelsey family

608
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 6: is only gonna have her trend up in my own

609
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 6: rankings because their family seems awesome and super down to earth.

610
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Speaker 1: Like you saw Jason and Travis kind of talking about

611
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: the first time Jason met her right last week, I

612
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: like stuff blacked out. Yeah. This.

613
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Speaker 3: But the thing too about Taylor Swift, She's not coming

614
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: in there with all these designer things like you see

615
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 3: so many celebrities.

616
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: It's like La rams nice stuff on.

617
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: She had nice stuff on, but she's rocking the clothes,

618
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 3: she's walking me approach. She has some Customs stuff on,

619
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: but she's still Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs. She's not sitting on

620
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 3: her phone at the game. Every time they pan to her,

621
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: she's screaming her face off. She's buying into the culture

622
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 3: of the NFL. She's not saying be more like me.

623
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 3: She's like, let me be more like you. And that

624
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 3: is a super relatable thing for a person that is

625
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: the star of all stars right now.

626
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: Now.

627
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 3: Subjective art, right, music is a subjective art. So am

628
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 3: I like the biggest music Taylor Swift fan? No, it's

629
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: not like what I'm in. I'm just not what I'm into.

630
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 3: I'm into that like you know what I'm into. Boys,

631
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 3: you know what I like. But you can at least

632
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 3: look at it and appreciate it, because being like the

633
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: most talented doesn't make you the best.

634
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Speaker 1: JP hates her man, I hate when though the will

635
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: she makes a Super Bowl dilemma.

636
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 5: There's like a whole thing because the Swift us to

637
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 5: be somewhere right's in Tokyo from the seventh to the

638
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 5: tenth on her errors to her so she her last

639
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 5: show is like uh starts six pm, seven pm whatever,

640
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 5: the tenth Tokyo time, and everyone's already been doing the math,

641
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 5: like she can make it back. She leaves posts show

642
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 5: in Tokyo at eleven pm, which is six am like

643
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 5: US time. Vegas time gets back with I want to say,

644
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 5: like thirteen hours pre kickoff, so she has like a

645
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 5: full night's sleep, can make it for the three thirty

646
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 5: kick or whatever. So I think if she shows up

647
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 5: after being in Tokyo for four days, you gotta just

648
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 5: agree that she is a real one.

649
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: Dude.

650
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 3: She's got all the tools to make it happen. Oh,

651
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 3: she's got she's got all the resources to make sure

652
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 3: she makes.

653
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: Everreye Airport and what this is gonna be.

654
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the only way this hurts her, The

655
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: only way it hurts her is if she doesn't make it. Yeah,

656
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: if she doesn't make it to the super Bowl, then

657
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Speaker 3: we got to sit on this podcast a week later,

658
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Speaker 3: being like the NF.

659
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Speaker 4: On the tarmac, she's sitting on the runway for whatever reason,

660
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 4: like if the effort's there, like that's.

661
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, the tarmac. I need her on that plane. And

662
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: there better be a fucking weather advisory in Tokyo. That's

663
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: a hurricane type situation where she just can't get out.

664
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Speaker 4: And if you want to double up your viewership there,

665
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 4: then you just put a camera like this is Taylor Swift,

666
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 4: She's sitting on the tarmac walk. You just have that

667
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 4: going that Taylor watch going right next to the You.

668
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: Need another plane, just like when OJ Simpson was running

669
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 3: from the police, Like have a camera on the plane

670
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 3: the whole time, keeping track of work tailors. She's now

671
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: halfway through the Atlantic. Right now we go through you

672
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: through the Pacific right to get back. Yeah, you have

673
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: to the Pacific. Maybe stop off in Hawaii. I don't

674
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: know that. I'm not gred at with geography.

675
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Speaker 1: That's off to the chiefs.

676
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 3: That's off to the chiefs. I was gonna go twist

677
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 3: the question, but we need to talk of lines. In

678
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Speaker 3: forty nine ers Biggest stumbled Bag of all Time by

679
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Speaker 3: Dan Campbell, I.

680
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 4: Mean thus far. Yeah, I mean you get to the

681
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 4: NFC champion, I could not. I mean you can speak

682
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 4: to it a little bit being up and then not

683
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 4: to like open a wound. But I'm saying like, as

684
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 4: a player, I feel like you're sitting there at halftime,

685
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 4: you know you got two more quarters like, hey, you

686
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 4: gotta step on the throw, you gotta keep the you

687
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 4: gotta keep the pedal of the metal boys. But you're

688
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 4: sitting there like, you know, yo, we're fucking about to

689
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 4: be going to the super Bowl, like we're fucking doing it.

690
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 4: You're kind of like, you know, people whoever's at home,

691
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 4: the families, they're starting to try to book whatever they can,

692
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: right right, And all of a sudden, that second half happens.

693
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 4: Go fourth on fourth to two. Who's Josh Reynolds? Is

694
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 4: Josh Reynolds Reynolds? Yeah, Josh drops the ball on fourth

695
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 4: and two, which is.

696
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: Like, man, why not just take the three points?

697
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, you take the three analytics bite you in the ass, man,

698
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: and then the Sparks they go down and score turnover,

699
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 4: score right, and then they're literally back in a tie

700
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 4: ball game going into the fourth quarter.

701
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Speaker 3: The amount of juice that the forty nine ers played

702
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: with in the second half was uncanny. It was incredible

703
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: to see the way they were flying around. There was

704
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: like bullets, missiles flying to the pile when dudes were

705
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: hung up a little bit like there were multiple times

706
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: like dudes are getting their heads fucking taken off.

707
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: Warner was out there.

708
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Speaker 3: It's a mistinger who's a green light thing, bro j greenlaw.

709
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: He gets that stinger that was now this is in

710
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: the first half, gets the stinger, understands the circumstances. I

711
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: gotta get my ass back up there. We've all had stingers.

712
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: Maybe one of the worst pains you can deal with

713
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: for a moment, dude, it is you feel your whole

714
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: body shutting down. Then like five minutes are like, okay,

715
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: I guess I'm all right, but anytime I move my

716
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 3: head a little bit this way, it goes down again like.

717
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Speaker 1: A little zap, right and he they they were.

718
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: Flying around like mad dogs. Yeah. Same And then that play, Yeah, Brandon,

719
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,239
Speaker 3: are you which catch? No catch? It doesn't really matter, right,

720
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 3: there's a fly that's gonna be past interference, so they're

721
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: gonna get the ball half the distance of the goal

722
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: in that situation. But that is, truly that's the spark

723
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: that that play right there is what sent the lines down.

724
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Speaker 3: Fucking hell.

725
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Speaker 4: Man, Like he didn't have the best stat line, but again,

726
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: like brog makes some of these plays. Man, what's dangerous

727
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 4: is Mahomes was like what thirty for thirty nine? I mean,

728
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 4: he's just got the fucking look in his eye. That's terrifying.

729
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: I just don't do what oh more than.

730
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Speaker 1: Back like bro not.

731
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Speaker 3: He had eleven targets and eleven receptions and they played

732
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: back three or four of us catches that he had insane.

733
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Speaker 3: That ball into the end zone incredible, the one to

734
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Speaker 3: get the first down. I believe it was on fourth

735
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Speaker 3: or was it third down? The way he reached up

736
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: and went he got it. For the life of me,

737
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: cannot understand why he was finding some windows though in

738
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: that zone coverage looking at the Ravens defense. How are

739
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: you not? Would you guys call it star double the

740
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: star star like Travis kill dude. All year long, the

741
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: Kansas City receivers have been liabilities to Darius Darius whatever

742
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 3: the hell's name is, Katoni, whatever his fucking name is.

743
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: He's on Instagram live.

744
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: He saw that.

745
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 3: Ship about a team that's gonna go to the super

746
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: Bowl this year. They like and this is no disrespect,

747
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: but they have been liabilities drop balls after drop balls.

748
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: The only guy that is consistent is Travis Kelcey. How

749
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: are you not double A? He's he's come on and

750
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: what the last four or five weeks he.

751
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 4: Was pretty good throughout the year. Remember a big cow

752
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 4: that was one of the names that you thought was fake.

753
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, So like he's shown up throughout the year.

754
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, they've had they've had drops and big moments.

755
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 4: They look like the team that's just like you know,

756
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Speaker 4: I mean four out of the last six years they've

757
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Speaker 4: been to the super Bowl.

758
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: And you can't tell me that uh CMC wasn't concussed

759
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 3: after that hit. His head bounced off, just his head

760
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 3: bounced off the turf.

761
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: But he's such a fucking dog.

762
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: He's a dog, and he just walks out. He says,

763
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: give me one. I thanks the last times, like, hey,

764
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 3: I hope your heads good, congratulations and he said it

765
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: just takes back I'm fine.

766
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, hell yeah, oh yeah, okay.

767
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, Kelsey dude, especially like he didn't have a

768
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 4: thousand yard year and was kind of like, you know,

769
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 4: up and down at times, or an injury late in

770
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: the year. But dude, I mean he acquired he always

771
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 4: acquires his infinity stones in the playoffs.

772
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Speaker 3: It feels like that's all that the Chiefs do. Yeah,

773
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: set the record, set the records. I think he blew

774
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: the record out right. He had like five more catches

775
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: than the record, and he still got another game. If

776
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Speaker 3: he doesn't retire after this year, I think could be

777
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Speaker 3: a possibility.

778
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Speaker 1: I think he retires.

779
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,479
Speaker 3: I think he retires might as well.

780
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: If you win, if you win, if you win.

781
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: And he's made so every fucking commercial. Bro, He's in

782
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 3: every commercial, every commercial, dude, every single one. And he's

783
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: not bad at them. Everything commercial, the psychic commercial, it's solid.

784
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: He does a good job being mad. He can act.

785
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 5: But JJ walla saying, hey, be careful because the overexposure

786
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 5: JJ wall was talking about. When he became big, he

787
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 5: gets all these massive deals, films, five ten commercials in

788
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 5: the off season. Next season comes around and every other commercial.

789
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: Is him and people.

790
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 5: It's like the death of overexposure. Like if you get

791
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 5: too exposed and people start to get annoyed. I like,

792
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 5: Traut's so cool, jjj didn't.

793
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: Have Like this is even like usually what happens. This

794
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: is like the Taylor Swift that happens. A you going

795
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: to start them, we won't say Taylor Swift. Then the

796
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: next year, after everyone's kind of learned who you are,

797
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: you get over saturated, like you're saying, now, it's like

798
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: people are finding the NFL for the first time and

799
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: want to know more and more about Travis. So all

800
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 3: these commercials are now like it's even better. It's working

801
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: in his favor as opposed to being overstatury because we

802
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 3: were like, oh, look at his personality. Oh that's adorable.

803
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: Oh foot long.

804
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 4: Trail their documentary on Amazon Prime. What Yeah, the Kelsey's

805
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 4: that came out.

806
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: Like early in the year last year.

807
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 3: We did it really?

808
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: Oh that was last year? Four Yeah, yeah, it covered last.

809
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: Year, ma'am. Yeah. And it's crazy that the great like

810
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: someone who are we probably will eventually be talking about

811
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 3: as who's the goat Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes. Patrick

812
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 3: Mahomes is overshadowed by Travis Kelce right now, that's like

813
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: an insane all these crazy storylines this year, dude.

814
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 4: Now there are some rumblings out there. I would love

815
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 4: your guys have taken the back Patrick Mahomes. He wins

816
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl and you read goat.

817
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: Oh people are.

818
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 4: Trying to call for it. You had a great analogy

819
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 4: last night or the chat? Did you enter the chat?

820
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 4: You walk into the room, which is fair, but I.

821
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: Think no matter what.

822
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: Tom Brady, oh yeah, I agree with that.

823
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 4: In the in the head to head, I think even

824
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 4: win because I do think I do think Mahomes can

825
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 4: beat what is that?

826
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: How many time have seven? Yeah, I think Mahomes can

827
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: beat that. Yeah, there was a conversation. I think part

828
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 3: of my take had this conversation. Hank was a part

829
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: of it, and he obviously didn't handle it very well.

830
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 3: But the conversation he gets seven, Yeah, if he gets seven.

831
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: Look at the first six years of Tom Brady's career

832
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: vers the first six years of Patrick Mahomes. Who now

833
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: here's the win hold on hunt. Patrick Mahomes has one

834
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: more win and Tom Brady obviously has one more loss.

835
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: Tom Brady's QBR is like eighty eight point nine. Patrick's

836
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: in the one hundreds. They're a touchdown to interception ratio,

837
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 3: completely different. Pat crushes him in that situation. We're talking

838
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: about the first six years of play, and they both

839
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: have three super Bowls. If he wins the Super Bowl,

840
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: if they if if right now, just on how you're

841
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 3: looking at the past, you're edging to Patrick Mahomes over

842
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: Tom Brady. Yeah, but he's got to keep the consistency

843
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: for another fourteen years.

844
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, Like if you look at Brady,

845
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: he does like as far as like in the amount

846
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 4: of time. Mahomes is the most gifted quarterback, the best

847
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 4: quarterback we've seen in like the short period in this generation.

848
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 4: But Tom won super Bowls in like three different eras

849
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: he played twenty four fucking years.

850
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 3: Such a great that's such a great tweet.

851
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: Is that right there?

852
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 5: It's most postseason QB wins in NFL history. The number

853
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 5: one leader Tom Brady with thirty five. The next closest

854
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 5: is Joe Montana was sixteen. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes got out

855
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 5: to play for a few more years to even get

856
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 5: in this conversation.

857
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 4: I dude, But still he's still coming away with the

858
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 4: hardware at the very end.

859
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 3: I think Pat has the capability to catch Tom in

860
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: rings way quicker than it took Tom.

861
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: Right because he's in twenty four years and when you

862
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 4: look at when they played head to head, he was

863
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 4: what was what forty five years old?

864
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: I think he's not even forty five yet. His head. Yeah,

865
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 3: but you want to talk about unforced situations, like they're

866
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: not putting to an O. D Ford's on side in

867
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 3: that game, no question, Yeah, no question. It's a good argument.

868
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: Chief should be stripped.

869
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, dude, talk.

870
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that make very good points, boys, they should.

871
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: Be if Pat wins it, there's no goat conversation. He's

872
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 3: just entered. He's entered the chat.

873
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because he I mean, it is super impressive.

874
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Speaker 4: The team that we talked about all year along with

875
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 4: the that in the with the Kansas Kansas City Chiefs,

876
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 4: the way that they're playing right now in the playoffs

877
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 4: is like, uh, it's impressive.

878
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's impressive. Who. I don't want to talk about.

879
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: Who because we have everybody knows, so I got it's not.

880
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 3: If there's one team, right, we got the hats in

881
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 3: the shop.

882
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: Go support your favorite team for the Super Bowl. Here's

883
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: the Chiefs one. I trust me, I hear Taylor. You

884
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: can hold the Chiefs one or Mitch can in the

885
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: back if you.

886
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 3: If there's one team that's going to beat the Chiefs,

887
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: it's the forty nine ers.

888
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 4: But they've got to play four quarters man because they

889
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 4: haven't done that in the playoffs.

890
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 3: They haven't done it. And they can get thrown on.

891
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 3: They can get ran on, get ran on.

892
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: And Pacheco runs like a madman.

893
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: Up. I just I posted it this morning, dude, George Kittle,

894
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: I will be back here. You will not get the

895
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 3: best of me. That to me, this is a redemption

896
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 3: of redemption story for George Kittle.

897
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: And they're playing the Chiefs who they lost to.

898
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 3: A few years ago when they were up big.

899
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: They kind of had them too.

900
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did have them.

901
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 2: Fuck.

902
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see You

903
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: want to hit this?

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Speaker 3: Is it time?

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Speaker 1: Is there?

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Speaker 3: Redention time for Mitch Carsley right now? For those of

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Speaker 3: you just tuning in, maybe you guys, are you heard

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Speaker 3: about this podcast and you jumped on this your first

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Speaker 3: time listening to an episode two sixty one. Mitch Carsley

930
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Speaker 3: has been in the fucking gutters lately. He's been absolute

931
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: trash at one of the few jobs he has. When

932
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: it comes to the show being filmed. Right now, while

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Speaker 3: we're filming it, your job is to come with us

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Speaker 3: with a Twisted Question of the week presented by Twisted Tea,

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Speaker 3: and how many times have you done well? Two?

936
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: I do have a question, maybe once have you talked

937
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 4: to your family about this? Like all the convos we've

938
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Speaker 4: given them directly, like have you done a recap with

939
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 4: your family based on your tribuna or based on your

940
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 4: twisted questions the last few weeks.

941
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Speaker 7: Yeah, they haven't well, Like I said, my dad And

942
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 7: I called my dad the other day and he's like

943
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 7: did he He answered, well, he actually called me so,

944
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 7: but he was like, you're like you're good though, right,

945
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 7: Like they're not actually gonna do anything with Like you're

946
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 7: not gonna lose your job.

947
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: Like, no, I'm good.

948
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: Oh where's your first mistake?

949
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 4: I was like, I might lose phrase JP, boys love

950
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Speaker 4: you don't ever trust this.

951
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 7: So actually I might be might we do love your dad,

952
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 7: but we do love you. My mom sent me an

953
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 7: email of like two hundred and sixty questions that she

954
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 7: just copy pasted from the internet.

955
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: She's texted me as shit tone.

956
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 4: Your mom understanding the work that goes into something like

957
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 4: this and basically doing it for you.

958
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 7: No, and you can figure that those questions that she

959
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 7: sent me I have seen before, and there's a reason

960
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 7: I haven't asked any of them because I felt like

961
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,479
Speaker 7: they were not good.

962
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: But I appreciate the help.

963
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 2: Mom.

964
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: Okay, you're not using one of your moms.

965
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 7: I am not using one of my moms. I am

966
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 7: actually using one from my college roommate.

967
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 3: Okay, once again, not a Mitch Carsley product.

968
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: It's okay.

969
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 4: He's turned over every stern stone to figure out what

970
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 4: question he wants to ask to Redom himself, because are

971
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 4: you are you nervous in and they're about to deliver

972
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 4: this question.

973
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm well.

974
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,600
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Speaker 1: How stoked are you to get those custom jackets?

985
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Speaker 2: So fair enough?

986
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: That's you tell me you you're the If you want

987
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 3: to talk about other things that you're dropping the ball on,

988
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: we can talk about We were supposed to get a

989
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: dirt by We went to Supercross in the summertime and

990
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Speaker 3: we were getting this deal done with Twist Tea.

991
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Speaker 1: We go to Supercross.

992
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 3: We go to Supercross because Mitch loves super.

993
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: C Mitch love supercross, and he brought that idea. Yeah, yeah,

994
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah.

995
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: So we have a couple of supercross guys on there.

996
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 3: They're outstanding, they're a fun time. We go to it.

997
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: We go to the Suzuki area where they're showing us

998
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 3: the twist the tea area, and I'm like, this would

999
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: be sick, and we let them know we would love

1000
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: to have just a decked out four fifty Suzuki twisted

1001
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: tea addition, let us get that. That's amazing. You know,

1002
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: your boy grew up with the dirty I was into that.

1003
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 3: Broke broke my foot, broke my hand, but my wrist broke,

1004
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: put my wrist one time, broke a collar bone. I

1005
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 3: had twenty seven broken bones. Not I'm a big tough guy,

1006
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. Mitch was put on the assignment. Do what Mitch.

1007
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know if I was putting on the motorcycle.

1008
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 3: You were putting. You were a put in position. We said, hey, Mitch,

1009
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 3: you handle this. You have the contacts at motocross, you

1010
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 3: have the contact talk to them and get this thing done. Hey,

1011
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 3: it's going to be here in August. Hey, it'll be

1012
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: here by December. Hey, it might be here before Christmas.

1013
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: Get excited to there. Need you to sign this waiver.

1014
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 3: Waiver signed. It is now January twenty nine, and while

1015
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 3: you're watching this, it's the thirtieth and I promise you

1016
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: tomorrow a fucking dirtbike will not be here. So it's

1017
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: January thirtieth and we still don't have that. That being said, Mitch,

1018
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 3: what's your twisted question of the week?

1019
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 7: All right, switch the question of this week. This one

1020
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 7: comes from my college roommate, Mike Dietrick. Would you rather

1021
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 7: suck a dick on live television or have your leg

1022
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 7: amputated from the hip down?

1023
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: That's a good question.

1024
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: It's a good question. Well who you who gave it

1025
00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: to you?

1026
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 7: My college roommate, Mike Didrick.

1027
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 3: Hey, shut Mike Didrick, shut up, Mike Ddrick, dude, great question,

1028
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 3: Thank you, Mike. If you're looking Mitch's job, If you're

1029
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 3: looking for a job, Mike and you know how to produce,

1030
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: hit us up, dude. I don't know if you guys

1031
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: were in the same thing at school, at Saskatoon.

1032
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: Or wherever it was, m Saskatoon.

1033
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 3: You suck a dick on live television, cable.

1034
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 4: Live television stream. This is national millions, the most viewed

1035
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 4: thing the entire decade. Start to finish, Start to finish

1036
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 4: or get your leg amputated from the head and the

1037
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 4: hip down. I know my answer, You know your answer.

1038
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 3: Gag me, dude, really yeah, take my leg really? Yes?

1039
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: Why cause now I'm in a position to write a book,

1040
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 3: be a hero, get one of those cool little tink

1041
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: tink legs put on my and then now I'm in

1042
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: the special Olympics winning the four hundred meters, whipping the

1043
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 3: hundred meter just absolutely, You're just.

1044
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: Going to show up and beat these dudes.

1045
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it? Oh, the Paralympic's my fault. I

1046
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: might be in both, Dude, I might be the first

1047
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: person to be a dual Olympic guy like that.

1048
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: You don't think I'll be able to write a book

1049
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: and capitalize on sucking dick.

1050
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: You could, but you'd be like the rest of them.

1051
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but everybody's like yo, Will had to do what

1052
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: he had to do to save his leg.

1053
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean, Like some people would

1054
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: they just take that jobs. It's like fifty just the

1055
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 3: books called fifteen minutes. Yeah, yeah, how I got myself

1056
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: in this position and how I choked myself out to

1057
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 3: get out?

1058
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, bro, like I didn't ready to make a movie

1059
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 4: about it. Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day,

1060
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 4: it's what you're down. You spend five minutes saving your

1061
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 4: own life basically.

1062
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh bro, we all know, dude, probably's.

1063
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 4: Probably a couple. Yeah, I mean, you know, come on,

1064
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 4: we don't. We don't got to be tough. Every guy

1065
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 4: knows that we could, we.

1066
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 3: Could do it or really turned off to what you're

1067
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: saying right now, go ahead, explain just these people are a.

1068
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: Little dudes know that.

1069
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 4: Like everybody's like, yo, you think you can have to

1070
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 4: do a better blow job than your other And it's like,

1071
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 4: well yeah, because we know exactly what we.

1072
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: Want, exactly exactly what you want because you don't have

1073
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 3: to go that deep. Yeah, just hit the tip, get

1074
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 3: after that thing pretty hard fast.

1075
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: That a glug glug nine thousand.

1076
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: Just letting you know might change my answer.

1077
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 4: Now, So I'm saying they'll be getting that year ten

1078
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 4: Come on, what does that mean? They'll get the year

1079
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 4: ten treatment. Oh yeah, yeah, that's what we'll coin it.

1080
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 4: After the job is done.

1081
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: They'll almost finish, but then they won't. The glug glug

1082
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: nine thousands. No, no, bro, you don't think I'm getting

1083
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: that thing that completes it. I'm just trying. But you

1084
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 3: didn't give them your nine.

1085
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 4: No, but I'm saying the glog five everybody how everybody

1086
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 4: talks about the glug luck nine thousand. It would now

1087
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 4: be coined the year ten.

1088
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: Oh, I got you. I see what you're saying. Yeah,

1089
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: no disrespect, no disrespect. I don't want to Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh now I see what you were saying. Almost if

1091
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: I can't finish, I see what you're saying. You motherfucker.

1092
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 3: That's my bad, my bad. Good question to your end,

1093
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: that was great. I might change my answer.

1094
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Speaker 1: What are you guys doing?

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00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 7: Head, I'm getting my leg amputating because just think, just

1096
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 7: think the technology and prosthetics nowadays, you damn near have

1097
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 7: another leg. No, I'm still like.

1098
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 3: There's not like a robotic leg.

1099
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 5: Also, when you lose a leg, especially something that takes

1100
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 5: up probably twenty to twenty five percent of your body,

1101
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 5: your life expectancy drops significantly.

1102
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,959
Speaker 1: I love that data. Great point for that argument.

1103
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: To live, to live, to live a fruitful life.

1104
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, suck to live dude twenty four.

1105
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 5: I said, it's like fifteen minutes or it's you struggling

1106
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 5: to walk around for the rest of your life.

1107
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: Not struggling. You might not be struggling and it's up

1108
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 3: to your hips.

1109
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 7: So an as cheek is gone, oh yeah, but it's

1110
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 7: also like you you gotta think.

1111
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, but also.

1112
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: Some cleaner to wipe some of the ship off of the.

1113
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 7: But no, I'm saying like if you're if you do

1114
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 7: it on live television, that is that is going all

1115
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 7: over the social media, that is going all over everything,

1116
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 7: like your your kids will see that. You're gonna be

1117
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 7: seen like, oh you were the guy that sucked the

1118
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 7: dude off on live televiitch.

1119
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 4: It'll be so much like yeah, that'll happen momentarily, But

1120
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 4: that twisted question right there will be the most iconic

1121
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 4: twisted question of all time because it won't even gonna

1122
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 4: be about you anymore. It'll be everybody else saying this

1123
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 4: guy had did what he had to do, and then

1124
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: everybody just arguing about it, making it about their own selves,

1125
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But I'll just be sitting

1126
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 4: back like, hey, I fucking I did what I had

1127
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 4: to do.

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Speaker 3: Save your leg. The life expectancy thing does sway me

1129
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: a little bit, but I got this knee pain right here.

1130
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 3: I'm thinking if you take the leg, if you take

1131
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 3: the leg, no.

1132
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 5: More knee pain than back with no legs full ill.

1133
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 3: Did you guys know he's been around a little bit lately.

1134
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 3: He's been around me even hurting a little bit. He's

1135
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 3: been up here and they we won't get into it.

1136
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: So oh god, Jerry Ainsworth, Jerry aans Worth, bro.

1137
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, take my leg.

1138
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: Good question, good question should.

1139
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 3: We get into. I mean we're looking at a three

1140
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 3: and a half hour podcast now, boys, I do.

1141
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: Believe that we have like uh yeah, we.

1142
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: Shout out for optimum and then.

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Speaker 3: bringing it back. We do it last week.

1156
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did it.

1157
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 3: We did last week. Week two, Week two of bringing

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Speaker 3: it back. Shout out, no free shadow. Let's start off

1159
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Speaker 3: with match cool on my list here.

1160
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 5: Mine was an experience had last night after the forty

1161
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 5: nine Ers Lions game. But it is when and this

1162
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 5: is a lost art because cable television is less and

1163
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 5: less and streaming is king now, But it's when you

1164
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 5: tune into a movie that just started on cable that's

1165
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 5: a good one.

1166
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 2: And it was The Day after Tomorrow if you remember

1167
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: that with Jake Jillian Hall.

1168
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 5: No, it's what's his name, the guy who's in parent

1169
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 5: Trap who's the dad and Jake Killenhall. But it's like

1170
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 5: this huge like geostorm type scenario comes, but not about

1171
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 5: the movie.

1172
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: But it's just when you tune in.

1173
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 5: It's like the first five minutes of a movie, you're like, okay,

1174
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 5: I can trap in. Then I also forgot how awful

1175
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 5: commercials are on cable TV, like every twelve minutes. Just yes,

1176
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 5: but that is my shout out, every shout out.

1177
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 3: What's the that's a great movie. What's the movie? I

1178
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 3: was gonna say, Tom Cruise, he wakes up every day

1179
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 3: after he's killed. This impossible? Oh I know you're talking

1180
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 3: about with that. With that, Yes, it's a great movie

1181
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 3: from Quiet Place a bunch. Oh yeah, yeah, we can

1182
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 3: just google it right.

1183
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. But it's more funny.

1184
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is more fun to play this game. It's like, uh,

1185
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 3: it's a newer one too, Like yeah, it's really good,

1186
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: like years.

1187
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 1: No, it's like alien.

1188
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, might as well.

1189
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 3: What is it JP as of tomorrow. I wouldn't have

1190
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: got that. I wouldn't have got that. But that's a

1191
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 3: great movie. I think people still sleep on Tom Cruise.

1192
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: You think so.

1193
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 3: I think they do because of scientology stuff. People still

1194
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 3: sleep on them. So he's such an elite actor, he's

1195
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 3: so good. Scientology thing makes people talk about him even more,

1196
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 3: I know. But I feel like because they talk about

1197
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: the scientology thing, it takes away from the how good

1198
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 3: of an actor he is to some people. Like people

1199
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 3: don't want to give him as much flowers because they

1200
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 3: think there's a cookiness that comes along with Tom Cruise.

1201
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: There's got to be a cookiness.

1202
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 3: You're that's got to be a little mental.

1203
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 1: You gotta be a little a little off the rocker.

1204
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 3: I think it would be so much fun to be

1205
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: able to do one of those roles. They a cool role,

1206
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 3: you know, not like a broke back Mountain roll, but

1207
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 3: like a cool like you know, mission impossible type thing. Yeah,

1208
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 3: you know, three hundred Yeah, that'd be sick, Mitch, what

1209
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 3: with your shout out my shout?

1210
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 7: I don't know if your shadow goes to the flyovers

1211
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 7: in football pre game those like especially when you're at

1212
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 7: the game, like when I think when we were at

1213
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 7: Notre Dame or whatever, it was just like that just

1214
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 7: is automatic goosebumps, no matter what. And it doesn't even

1215
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 7: have to be a sick plane. It's just a plane

1216
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 7: flying over a stadium. There's like, there's nothing more America.

1217
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be like a little small one seventy

1218
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: two ripping by, but you know what the intent is there.

1219
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, And like the stealth bomber going over the Rose

1220
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 7: Bowl like that was insane in.

1221
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 5: The Chiefs game yesterday, Like the best part rise to

1222
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 5: go over the same commercial?

1223
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: What terrorist?

1224
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 3: It's the world we live in now? Jack, You got JP.

1225
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: Mine goes to.

1226
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 6: Good icebreaker games when you're with all new people. We

1227
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 6: were in this situation last night. It was a great game.

1228
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: It was everybody was in a circle.

1229
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 6: Two people are lined up face to face, and on

1230
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 6: the count of three, they both say the first word

1231
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 6: that comes to their mind. So say, we'll say one,

1232
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 6: two three. I say taco, You say football. I have

1233
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 6: to turn to my person. Now I'm with Mitch. We

1234
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 6: can't say those two words. We have to think of

1235
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 6: a word. What word comes to our head when we.

1236
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: Hear football in taco?

1237
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 6: Three two one?

1238
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, tailgate.

1239
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 6: So that's exactly what happened last night, me and Sit

1240
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 6: and hit it. But it was just like a great

1241
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 6: We were in a room of people we didn't know

1242
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 6: and the ice precker just brought everyone together.

1243
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: And that's old game. Yeah, it's a good one.

1244
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 3: You never heard of that, that's all. That's awesome. Yeah, Yeah,

1245
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 3: we were I know who I am. That's a great game.

1246
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 3: But I had a similar situation like that at the

1247
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: Chandler's house for New Year's They had a bunch of

1248
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: people over. We didn't know anybody. We knew a couple

1249
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 3: of people, but we ended up playing where we'll for

1250
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 3: legit two hours, and I was like the guy obviously

1251
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 3: doing eight because there's like me and Taylor who knew

1252
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 3: the game really well. And that really opened it up

1253
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 3: for everybody. Yeah, they got that kind of nervous you'd

1254
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 3: only do so many Hey where you're from, how many

1255
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 3: kids you got? What do you do for a job

1256
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 3: conversations before you're like, let me just move on. Go

1257
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 3: sit in the bathroom for ten minutes on my phone.

1258
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me go take a ship.

1259
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1260
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: Uh, my shoutow, no free shout out is going to

1261
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: be throwing the dad head ahead. My shoutow, no free.

1262
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 3: Shout out is when the new dad's out there rep

1263
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 3: our hats or rep our merch and they post about

1264
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 3: it when they have a kid on social media, tagging.

1265
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: Us and everything else. That's not me trying to farm.

1266
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: People continue to do it.

1267
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 4: But he does fire me up that people like he

1268
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 4: just became a new dad and then they're like wrapping

1269
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 4: a hat that either their wife got him or whatever.

1270
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 4: They're sitting there holding their newborn dad juices the boy up.

1271
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 4: So that's my shout out, no free shoutout, and go

1272
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 4: buy her dad merchant.

1273
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 5: There's a bunch of new dads at the gym I

1274
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 5: go to, and I guess it's Garrett. He's just like

1275
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 5: spreading the good word. And so many guys have dad

1276
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 5: hats and it fires me up.

1277
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 3: It's like damn, it's like dude.

1278
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: So like women, anybody that are seeing me, like where

1279
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: this girl dad hat around?

1280
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 2: That?

1281
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 1: Just compliment like hey, I love that hat, Like where'd

1282
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: you get from? Like all the barcelol barstol store, barcel store.

1283
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know who's the girl dad. Sean Moore, head

1284
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 3: coach at the University of Michigan. Oh yeah, got a

1285
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 3: couple headed his way right now, no ship, Oh yeah,

1286
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 3: oh yeah.

1287
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 4: We got to start getting all the dads that come

1288
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 4: on the but I know we've talked about it. Yeah,

1289
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 4: the dads who come on the bus, we get them

1290
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 4: to We get them some gear right when they're here,

1291
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 4: maybe even get a little dad story out of them.

1292
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 3: We need to just have a dad segment, yes, just

1293
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 3: really dive in, like a therapy dad session. Well we'll

1294
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 3: brainstorm in there.

1295
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1296
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you want to vent about your child, if

1297
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 4: you want to give a shit. Positive doesn't always have

1298
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 4: to be positive that whatever we want.

1299
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 3: It to be because you know, if you're expressing something

1300
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 3: that bothers you, there's a bunch of other dads out

1301
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 3: there feeling the same way. And when they don't feel alone,

1302
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 3: you don't feel alone. And that's how you build community.

1303
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: In fatherhood is the highest of highs and lowest of low's.

1304
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Speaker 1: We all got to be together.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of community, my school needs to figure out the

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00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 3: wave again. They've really dropped the ball. They went really

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00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 3: strong after my couple of weeks of doing the wave

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00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: and putting on Instagram, They've they've dropped the ball on

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00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 3: waving back. It went really good for a while, but

1310
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 3: now I got dudes in trucks not waving back. And

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Speaker 3: I just feel like, if you're going to have a

1312
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 3: pickup truck, if you're going to own a Shevvy Silverado,

1313
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 3: you've got to know and be aware when the wave

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00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 3: is coming in and give it back. It has to

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00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: be reciprocated. There's a different standard when you're driving a

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00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 3: pickup truck. So then we just say that.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to make the wave a thing.

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00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 3: I'm just not trying to make anything. I'm trying to

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00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 3: bring it back. I'm trying to bring back community and

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00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 3: that goes into my shadow of free shoutout similar to

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00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 3: the boat wave my shoutout, no free shodow is America?

1322
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 3: I feel like there's a cut. Yes, I've been watching that.

1323
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 4: Literally.

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00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 3: I caught myself on YouTube tailoring and hit me out

1325
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 3: the other day because Tale likes to dive into the

1326
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 3: news and all the scariest respect because someone's got too

1327
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 3: because I'm not gonna Apparently there's a whole bunch of

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00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 3: people going out of Texas and there's like a civil

1329
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 3: war on the horizon. We're talking about WW three and

1330
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 3: all that. Somewhere along the lines of our childhood, we

1331
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 3: decided that it's not cool to love America. It's like

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00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 3: no longer a cool thing to do. And I found

1333
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 3: myself on YouTube watching highlight videos, the good video different

1334
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 3: sort of military videos of why people are fighting for

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00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 3: the freedoms.

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Speaker 1: That we have.

1337
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 3: Now, this is not a proud boy situation. It's just

1338
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 3: me saying we need to regardless of what country you

1339
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: are born in, there needs to be a sense of

1340
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 3: pride and patriotism, whether you're from Canada, Mexico, Spain, America

1341
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 3: of I was born here and we might have our

1342
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 3: flaws goddamn it. I love where I'm from, and these

1343
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 3: are the reasons why I love it. You don't get

1344
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 3: in a relationship. You know, Charles got problems. I know

1345
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 3: Taylor's got a couple of things she's got to work on.

1346
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 3: I still love her to death. I'm still in a

1347
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 3: happy marriage. That type of thing. So I'm just saying,

1348
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 3: shout out America, dude, shout at America.

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00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of good fandom for America.

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00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, one way is there?

1351
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: Really? Like talks to civil war and she.

1352
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 3: Like that allegedly.

1353
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: Now you know me.

1354
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 3: Taylor hit me up with like, hey, what'll we do

1355
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 3: in a crisis? Like what if we get invaded? I'm like, oh,

1356
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 3: we're the extras of the movie that get ended, Like

1357
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: what are the people running?

1358
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: As blows us up?

1359
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I think that might have been Tailor

1360
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 3: and Taylor.

1361
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: I got that algorithm going on right now. Yeah, yeah,

1362
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: electioneer coming.

1363
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 4: People start getting that algorithm because I saw the tweet

1364
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 4: talking about the civil war, War War three and I'm

1365
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 4: just thinking, like.

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00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 6: What.

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00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: Said that? I legit?

1368
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 3: I send her a video after video. She's on the plane.

1369
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 3: She went to Canada this weekend and I just sent

1370
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 3: her a bunch of videos of just why we don't

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00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 3: have free health care and why, like you're gonna find

1372
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 3: out why you're gonna find out if you fuck with America.

1373
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 3: And she thinks it's so lame because like obviously from Canada,

1374
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 3: and she's like, you guys just think you're so tough.

1375
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 3: It's like, fucking try us then, because we'll fucking end it, dude,

1376
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 3: And so shout out America. Man, don't actually try us

1377
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 3: because I would hate that.

1378
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: But if you do, we start talking about the ste

1379
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: Finer episode.

1380
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 4: Kick it off to Stewie. This is a long podcast.

1381
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 4: I appreciate shout out everybody who's stuck with this through

1382
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 4: every minute this episode. You were going to love from

1383
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 4: Sue Finer arguably one of the greatest hustlers of our generation.

1384
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 4: You could also argue maybe connordists of our generation as well.

1385
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 4: He dabbles in bows. You can make your own decision.

1386
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 4: This is an incredible story, Stu. We were blessed to

1387
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 4: have him on the bus. He told everything. I do

1388
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 4: feel like he covered everything from start to finish. There's

1389
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 4: definitely a lot of gaps he can probably fill in

1390
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 4: that we had questions on at the end, did he

1391
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 4: kill somebody? Yeah, But at the end of the day,

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00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 4: this is two hours and forty five minutes of Stu

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00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 4: Feirener sharing his story and being an incredible storyteller.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: Where to Next this Do Finder episode.

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01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 3: I believe Mitch the producer just told us.

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Speaker 2: We are rolling.

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01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 3: We are Stu.

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01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: Find Welcome to bust with the boys.

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01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 3: Glad to have you, dude, Glad to have this.

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01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: It's a pleasure.

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01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 4: This is a very special treat because you are a

1414
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 4: very unique individual coming into the barstool world. Getting to

1415
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 4: know you from the outside looking in, you have a

1416
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 4: couple of bumps where you know this stuff with the

1417
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 4: with women and stuff like that, or you're getting to

1418
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 4: know Stu and you're like, yo, who is this fucking

1419
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 4: whack job a little bit.

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01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: In the very beginning.

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Speaker 4: Then you get to know Stu and you see how

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01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 4: how much you always show your appreciation and gratitude, which

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01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 4: is very real and authentic you. It's like you learn

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01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 4: that in per and the way you just embrace, throw compliments,

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01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 4: do all the things to where you're just like, oh,

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01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 4: Sture's like a fucking awesome, awesome dude. He's just got

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01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 4: a little he's got a couple of screws loose every

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01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 4: now morning. But this dude, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 4: But two for the money.

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Speaker 3: The movie, which we'll get into loosely based around your

1431
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 3: come up in the sports gambling world.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't even loosely. I mean the movie does not

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01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 2: exist without me. You know, I'm the star of the movie.

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01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 2: I mean, if you watch that movie, it's all about me.

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01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 2: It's a disgruntled employee standpoint on him working for me.

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01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 2: That's the movie. So without me, there is no movie.

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Speaker 1: Which character are you?

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01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 2: Al Patina?

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01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're al Patina?

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Speaker 2: Who Who're you start? You want to start from the

1441
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 2: very beginning of my life? You want to go right

1442
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 2: into this?

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01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: Do you want to jump?

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01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 3: Because I have not seen the movie, I'm gonna watch

1445
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 3: it as soon as this show's movie. I'm gonna watch

1446
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 3: it tonight.

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01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 2: Okay, but I like to go.

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01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: I like to go.

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01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 3: Let's start.

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01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 2: Early.

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01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 3: Grew up in Long Island, No So.

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01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: I grew up in Brooklyn twenty six sixty two West

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01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 2: Second Street, in a sixth story apartment building that Fred

1454
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: Trump owned, Donald Trump's father and my father. Oddly enough,

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01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 2: Fred was friends with Fred Trump. My father certain times

1456
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 2: had trouble paying the rent and Fred Wouldlndb's side. So

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01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 2: my father had a relationship with Fred Trump when I

1458
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 2: was a little boy and quite interesting. And to live

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Speaker 2: in a sixth story apartment building in Brooklyn was quite interesting.

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Speaker 2: It was only me and my brother and predominantly Jewish,

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01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 2: all Jewish, so my friends were Jewish. Well. The school

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Speaker 2: I went to was PS two sixteen in Brooklyn, all Jewish.

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01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 2: I was born in Mamamide's Hospital and it was a

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01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 2: very interesting, tight knit family group. You know, on the

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01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: sixth floor, you knew everybody trick or treating you trick

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01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 2: or treated the sixth floor, then the fifth floor, then

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01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 2: the fourth floor, then the third floor. You stayed in

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01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 2: your apartment building. Outside of the apartment building would be

1469
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 2: where all the parents hung out just on lounge chairs

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01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 2: during the summer and everybody just played on the grass,

1471
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: played tackle football, played whiffletball, played kickball. So that was

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Speaker 2: my upbringing in Brooklyn. We were there until March of

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01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 2: fourth grade and then we left there and moved to

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01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: Long Island, Farmingdale, Long Island. Really my house was in

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Speaker 2: North Massapequa. We moved into the Viceroy Homes. It was

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01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 2: a four hundred and twenty five home area where there

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01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 2: was one way in and one way out. And I

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01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: have a lot of scars on me from Brooklyn. My

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01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 2: father loved me, loved my brother, loved my mother, no

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01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: issue about that, but was a Rachel Hollock, very physical

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01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: physical with me and my brother, physical with my mother.

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01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 2: And I think that really that made me extremely insecure

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01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 2: and not trusting inherently anyone because I was, let's see,

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01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 2: ten years old, nine years old, eight years old, and

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01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: I remember my mother screaming in the bedroom. Stewie, call

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01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 2: the cops. Your father's hitting me. Meanwhile, I'm fucking nine

1487
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 2: years old. You know, what are you supposed to do?

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01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 2: And in those days, so now what do we talk?

1489
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: I was born in sixty one, so this was probably

1490
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 2: right around with the Mets one of the world. There

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01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 2: was sixty nine sixty eight right around there. And obviously,

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01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 2: as a young child, you know, you're taught to say nothing.

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01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: You know, you're taught. You know, I was taught at

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01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 2: least if things are rough, things are bad, you don't

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01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: say anything. You know, what happens in the house stays

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01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: in the house. But as I went to therapy when

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01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 2: I was much older, you know, they taught me that

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Speaker 2: that you know is very abusive and very inappropriate, And

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01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 2: it wasn't appropriate for your father to be physical with

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01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 2: you and your brother, and for that matter physical but

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01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 2: your mother and keeping all that stuff in correct, like

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01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 2: you couldn't really like you couldn't, you know, then it

1503
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 2: wasn't There was no issue to to tell the teacher,

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01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 2: or to tell anyone for that matter. So we moved

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01:05:55,440 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 2: to North massa speaker and the first day there was

1506
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 2: a total fucking horror show. Like to this moment, I

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01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 2: remember it and I feel it like it happened five

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01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 2: seconds ago, especially when I talk about it. So father

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01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 2: goes to work. It's the first time we own our house.

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01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 2: We're on like an eighty by one hundred piece of

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01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 2: property and a nice house, very nice. We go to

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01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 2: what's called the Dairy Bond, me, my brother, my mother.

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01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 2: It was a free standing building and they used to

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01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: sell milk in these glass bottles and iced tea in

1515
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 2: the glass bottles. And also it was almost like a

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01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: very small seven to eleven. You drove in. It was

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01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: a drive through. You got your stuff donuts, bread, milk,

1518
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 2: iced tea, butter, the essentials. We got back to the

1519
01:06:53,480 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 2: house and in the driveway is written the word kike

1520
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 2: in crab apples, and there's like ten kids opposite my

1521
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 2: house hiding in the bushes. And first of all, I

1522
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 2: have no idea what that word needs. My mother sure

1523
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: as fuck does, because she immediately starts crying. So me

1524
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 2: and my brother are now like what's going on? And

1525
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: then she's like hustling us up to the front door

1526
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 2: so that we can get in the house. So we

1527
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 2: don't see what it is. She puts the glass milk

1528
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 2: down and the glass iced tea down, and in our gutter,

1529
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 2: right in front of the screen door that you have

1530
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 2: to open to get into the regular door, there's an

1531
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 2: umbrella hanging there. She opens the screen door and crab

1532
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 2: apples and rocks come down and smash the ice tees

1533
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 2: and the milk shouted the bottles. So now me and

1534
01:07:57,960 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: my brother are crying because you know, there's a whole

1535
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 2: to do. She runs in the house calls my father.

1536
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 2: My father flies home from New York City. He had

1537
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 2: a place on thirty seventh between seventh and eighth at

1538
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 2: the time. He worked for a place called Letterama. They

1539
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 2: made letters and signs, and they had a couple of

1540
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 2: major accounts. They had Masters Square Garden in HBO, and

1541
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 2: they had a Chase Bank, and they had a couple

1542
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: of other banks that they made every sign for. So

1543
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 2: every sign at HBO, every sign at Master's Square Garden,

1544
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 2: this company did. And I would go into work with

1545
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,759
Speaker 2: my father and help him, and so on and so forth.

1546
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 2: When I was young, took the train in hold to do.

1547
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 2: My father comes flying home and he's steaming right now.

1548
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 2: And as a kid, me and my brother knew that

1549
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 2: the signals that my father was gonna either hit us,

1550
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 2: or hit my mother or just trash the fucking house

1551
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 2: was that he would bite down on his lip, and

1552
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 2: you know that was a sign. So and the minute

1553
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 2: he bit down on his lip, like me and my

1554
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 2: brother would run into our room in Brooklyn, we had

1555
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 2: the same room, two beds. In this new house in

1556
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,560
Speaker 2: North Massapeico, we had separate rooms. We'd hide literally in

1557
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 2: the closets under the bed because we knew we were

1558
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: gonna get a fucking beating. So he comes home and

1559
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 2: he's like screaming at my mother as if she did something.

1560
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 2: What happened? Tell me what happened? What happened? She tells them,

1561
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 2: And then he drags me and my brother like like

1562
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 2: a cartoon movie by the back, like like we were cubs,

1563
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 2: and he was like a bear holding us. We went

1564
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 2: to every single door across the street down our block,

1565
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 2: which was Abbott Street, and then we were surrounded by

1566
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 2: East Drive and West Drive all these things, and he

1567
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 2: just started screaming at the parents, saying who did this?

1568
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 2: And of course, now the parents are not confrontational at all.

1569
01:09:54,880 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 2: They're very you know, like apologetic and So that was

1570
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,600
Speaker 2: March or fourth grade. So obviously, now we're hated in

1571
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 2: the fucking neighborhood, me and my brother a because we're Jews.

1572
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 2: There was no Jews in the fucking neighborhood. I'm talking zero,

1573
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 2: almost like the movies, like you know, christ Killers, you

1574
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 2: know Caikes, you know dirty Jews, so on and so forth.

1575
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: My father explained to us what that word means, and

1576
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 2: all the kids got punished. So now we're got to

1577
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 2: walk the fucking bus stop. And we were like shunned,

1578
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: me and my brother for good fourth grade, fifth grade,

1579
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: into the summer of sixth grade, where we hung out

1580
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 2: with just a very small contingent of Jews and other

1581
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 2: kids that didn't live in Viceroy that heard what happened

1582
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 2: but felt bad for us. So we were like short,

1583
01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 2: little chubby kids and uh, non athletic at the time.

1584
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 2: So I figured out people pleasing and being nice to people,

1585
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 2: and overly nice would at least get my foot in

1586
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 2: the door so that people wouldn't piss on me and

1587
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 2: call me a cake and call me a Jew and

1588
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 2: just you know whatever. And in Viceroy in North Massapeakra

1589
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 2: so we're talking nineteen seventy. There was cliques. There was

1590
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 2: the little mafia L and M boys where their fathers

1591
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 2: were in the mafia. Paul Castellano, who was depicted as

1592
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 2: Don Carleone in the movie The Godfather, lived in Massapequa.

1593
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 2: He lived on the water in Massapequa. So every bar

1594
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 2: there was like little social clubs, Italian social clubs, and

1595
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 2: it was a little mafia. Then you had the freaks.

1596
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 2: Then you had the kids that were long hair, smoking

1597
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 2: pot hanging out. Then you had the jocks, and then

1598
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 2: you had the nerds and the geeks, which were the

1599
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 2: smart kids. They were called at the time of word

1600
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 2: we do not use anymore, like faggots. We don't use

1601
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 2: that word. Had nothing to do with sexual preference at all,

1602
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 2: nothing it had to do it. They were smart, they

1603
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 2: were geeks. They were not like us. They weren't they

1604
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 2: weren't little L and m's, they weren't jocks, you know,

1605
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 2: and they weren't freaks. They were you know, smarties. So

1606
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 2: there was clicks, very clicky clicks, and everybody was white.

1607
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 2: There was not really prominently any blacks or any Spanish

1608
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 2: or any other authenticities. Then. So finally in seventh grade,

1609
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 2: I was watching something on TV. But I had these

1610
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 2: bodybuilders and I used to get the bodybuilding magazines, and

1611
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 2: I made my father buy me these sand weights. They

1612
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: used to be plastic weights and they were filled with sand.

1613
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 2: So he got me a bench and he got me

1614
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 2: these sand weights, and I just went to work. You know.

1615
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 2: I went to work, and in seventh grade, from sixth

1616
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 2: grade to seventh grade, I grew. I went from like

1617
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 2: four ten to five five. I'm the exact same size

1618
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 2: right now that I was in seventh grade. So I

1619
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 2: started working out with the weights, and I wanted to

1620
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 2: be cool. So I went to the flea market and

1621
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 2: you also had the leather jacket group, and those were

1622
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 2: the coolest group, I thought, because they looked fucking cool

1623
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 2: in the leather jackets, and they were tough guys.

1624
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,679
Speaker 3: Say had John Travolta from Greece, kind of literally literally.

1625
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 2: So I got a let the jacket, went into school

1626
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 2: that Monday, and got my fucking teeth kicked in. I

1627
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 2: got put headfirst into the fucking lockers, kicked in the balls,

1628
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 2: beat the fuck out of They're like, listen, you fucking kike,

1629
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 2: you you you ain't wearing a fucking leather you ain't

1630
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 2: wearing this black leather jacket ever. I see this wearing again,

1631
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 2: and you're a fucking dead man. So of course, the

1632
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 2: next day, I fucking never wore the leather jacket again.

1633
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: I went back to the flea market and I exchanged

1634
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 2: it for a bomber jacket, which was still very cool,

1635
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 2: but getting my ass kicked by the So when we

1636
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: went to school, it was still seventh eighth, ninth grade,

1637
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 2: ninth grade was still in the junior high school. Wasn't

1638
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 2: in the high school now it's you know now it

1639
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 2: is it's nineth ten to eleven, twelfth. Then it wasn't

1640
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 2: her seventheighth ninth getting my ass kicked in. You know,

1641
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 2: in my mind, you had a lot of time to think,

1642
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 2: think about it. And I when when the teachers came,

1643
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 2: and when the uh dean came, and when the principal came,

1644
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: and when the person who runs detention came. I didn't

1645
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 2: rat no one out. You know, they were like, who

1646
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: did this to you? Show me who did you know?

1647
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 2: Like it was show me who did this? You know,

1648
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 2: I want to know who did this? And I just

1649
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 2: shut my fucking mouth because I knew enough from watching

1650
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 2: movies that my father watched that. You know, like you

1651
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 2: just don't rat out on people. It was never told

1652
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 2: to me not to, but you know, I knew how

1653
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 2: bad I got my ass kicked in, and I figured,

1654
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 2: God forbid if I rated these people out, what would happen?

1655
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 2: So shut my mouth, woll my bomber jacket. And then

1656
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 2: probably middle of seventh grade, I started boxing. And in

1657
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 2: this the area it was called Alan Park, they had

1658
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: a little boxing ring and some guy would come down

1659
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 2: and teach you how to box. And I was super good.

1660
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 2: I was great. I would super fast, I was able

1661
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 2: to get hit in the face not get hurt, and

1662
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 2: I was able to punish people. And my father loved boxing.

1663
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: My father. I didn't watch college football until I was

1664
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 2: probably seventeen years old. There was no college football in

1665
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 2: the house. There was NFL football, and it was a religion.

1666
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 2: On Sunday we did we On Saturday, we did the leaves,

1667
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: We cleaned up the outside of the house, we cleaned

1668
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,719
Speaker 2: up the inside of the house, got all the chores

1669
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,560
Speaker 2: outed away. So my father worked Monday through Friday, and

1670
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 2: then on Sunday we watched football. And my father was

1671
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 2: an Oakland Raider fan and a Minnesota Viking fin. I

1672
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 2: became a Raider fan, my brother became a Viking fan.

1673
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 2: And football being violent at the time, really the object

1674
01:16:54,560 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 2: of football was you literally knocked out the best player

1675
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 2: on the other team by any means. Clothesline, dirty hit

1676
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 2: after the whistle hit didn't fucking matter. So in my head,

1677
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 2: that's how I thought life was that, you know. So

1678
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 2: seventh grade and eighth grade gave me a hard time,

1679
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 2: and he was pushing me, and he was pushing me,

1680
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 2: and then one shot I knocked the fucking kid. Alcohol

1681
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 2: knocked him out fucking cold. I hit him one shot

1682
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 2: and he was on the fucking unconscious, and I just

1683
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 2: walked the fuck away. And then his brothers that were

1684
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 2: in ninth grade came after me. And I literally must

1685
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 2: have had a hundred fights in seventh grade with the

1686
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 2: eighth greatest and the ninth gradest, and I held my

1687
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 2: own against every fucking one of them, and as they

1688
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 2: chose you out, how crazy it was, I only got respect.

1689
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 2: Then I didn't wrap them out that I could held

1690
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 2: my own. So now all of a sudden, I was

1691
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 2: making a name for myself. Where if you were going

1692
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 2: to fucking fight with this fucking guy, you better jump

1693
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 2: him or you better fucking hit him cheap. So in

1694
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:19,759
Speaker 2: the neighborhood, the people still didn't weren't coming to my house,

1695
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 2: weren't hanging out with me. They were jocks, they were

1696
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,799
Speaker 2: excellent athletes. They were at a very young age stars.

1697
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 2: Whether it was the pl or it was flag football,

1698
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 2: whatever it was. They would hang out like maybe four

1699
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,959
Speaker 2: houses away from me for ten kids with a basketball

1700
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 2: playing that they wouldn't fucking talk to me. And then

1701
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 2: one day one of them came over to me and

1702
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 2: just giving me a hard time for no reason. And

1703
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 2: this kid was known for wearing steel tip boots, so

1704
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:57,600
Speaker 2: nineteen this is now nineteen seventy three, and somehow he

1705
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 2: picked a fight with me, and I was crush this kid,

1706
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 2: but he kicked me, first time I've ever seen someone

1707
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 2: kick in my life, like almost like a Bruce Lee movie.

1708
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 2: He kicked me in my fucking hand and like broke

1709
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 2: one of my fingers. So then I just jumped them

1710
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 2: and started biting them and like poking them in the

1711
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 2: fucking eye like it was fake wrestling, because she used

1712
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 2: to watch that fake wrestling, you know. Bruno San Mantino,

1713
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 2: Andre the giant, you know back then, and two of

1714
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 2: his friends jumped on me, and at that moment, I

1715
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 2: just went psycho. I fucking held my own against all

1716
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 2: three of them. And after that moment, everybody in the

1717
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 2: neighborhood loved me. Everybody in the fucking neighborhood loved me.

1718
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 2: So that's really how I made my bones as stew finder.

1719
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 2: Like I was a superstar in the neighbor like so

1720
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 2: much so that that fight was on let's say a Saturday.

1721
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 2: I went into school one day, my first period. Everybody

1722
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 2: clapped when I walked in.

1723
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: Did you end to putt on the leather jacket again?

1724
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 6: No?

1725
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 3: Never, No, couldn't do it.

1726
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 2: No. I just it was you know, it was one

1727
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 2: of those things where I, you know, I just didn't

1728
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 2: need it after that, you know, I wanted to do

1729
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 2: it to be accepted, and then it just wasn't. And

1730
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 2: then I looked at these leather jacket because like, they

1731
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 2: were fucking punks. Be honest with you, they were punks.

1732
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 2: You know.

1733
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: Were you somebody looking for fights? More like once you

1734
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,480
Speaker 1: took on boxing and then realized you could people's ass seventh.

1735
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 2: Or eighth grade, I beat the fuck out of so

1736
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 2: many people headfirst into lockers, be senseless after school, you know,

1737
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: we meet at this time, be a circle crowd like

1738
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 2: a movie. It was literally like I was like, let's say,

1739
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 2: if I had one hundred and fourteen fights, I was

1740
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 2: like one hundred wins fourteen losses. You know, but I

1741
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 2: want to explain. Then when you fought, you would literally

1742
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 2: say to the person you had enough, give and the

1743
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 2: person would say give and you get up. It wasn't

1744
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 2: like these things in the late seventies where I wasn't

1745
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 2: in Long Island where he started carrying knives, started carrying bats.

1746
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 2: There was no rules. You beat the person until they

1747
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 2: were unconscious. Everyone would jump on and kick them in

1748
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 2: their face. And everything wasn't like that. It was like

1749
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 2: a square fight. It was like once the person said

1750
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 2: it's over, it's over. So that's really how it was.

1751
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 2: And I started getting in trouble in school, obviously in

1752
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 2: my junior high school. Mister Valentine, he was the dean,

1753
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 2: this low life scumbag, piece of shit cockshaka. I hope

1754
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,600
Speaker 2: he died, and I hope it was violent. Like he

1755
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 2: got hit by a car and labumpa caught his leg

1756
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 2: and he was dragged with his face like skin because

1757
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 2: this is what this piece of shit would do. You

1758
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 2: would hear this, snow Vona, please come down to the

1759
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 2: Principal's all this So first time, I didn't know what

1760
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 2: that meant. This guy legally would take a fucking wooden paddle,

1761
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 2: bend me over, hold my hands, and whack me on

1762
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 2: my ass. Ten times that happened. That didn't stop until

1763
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 2: I was in eleventh grade and they stopped it in

1764
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 2: that school. So what are we talking nineteen seventy seven.

1765
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 3: That went on until do you remember the first time

1766
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 3: we paddled you?

1767
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Fuck yes?

1768
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 3: What was that process like? When it was like, okay,

1769
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 3: bend over?

1770
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 2: Were you just like what shit?

1771
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1772
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 2: I went home to my father and my father said,

1773
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 2: what'd you do? No shit, That's how it used to be.

1774
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 2: That's how it used to be, you know, like authority

1775
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 2: had all the power over children. Parents would just go

1776
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 2: with the teachers. It was wild. It was so helpless,

1777
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 2: and so.

1778
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: Did you deserve some of the paddle beatings at the

1779
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: time in the seventies.

1780
01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 2: Never deserve a paddle beating from an adult, No, Never,

1781
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 2: Like when I got in trouble in high school, sitting

1782
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 2: at detention every day. You have no breaks, you have

1783
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 2: no lunch, eat your lunch in there, and you'd go

1784
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 2: every day and then after school you would go, fine,

1785
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 2: you have to write these ridiculous things.

1786
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 3: You know, you have Simpson on the on the chalkboard. Literally, yeah,

1787
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 3: just do work, just.

1788
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: To work, don't look around, don't talk to anybody.

1789
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 2: Physical abuse, So, like I learned really quick. I asked

1790
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 2: other people who were getting padles, what do you do?

1791
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 2: Because it fucking hurt. My ass was fucking read as fuck.

1792
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 2: And uh, they said, have a pair of sweatpants in

1793
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 2: your hawker and minute they call your name, run to

1794
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 2: your locker, go to the bathroom, take your pants down,

1795
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 2: put your swimths pants under it, and put your vands

1796
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 2: back on. It hurts less.

1797
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 4: So that teachers were allowed to paddle at this time,

1798
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 4: literally just for no like, hey, I'm ready to fucking

1799
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 4: work public lin.

1800
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 3: Yes, so this is no holds bar about paddling. I

1801
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 3: think for whatever reason, I'm thinking about a nun with

1802
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:58,600
Speaker 3: a ruler on the knucklestoe.

1803
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 2: Well they did it too, but no, there's a basic

1804
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 2: public school. Really literally, it was surreal. It was teachers

1805
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 2: were able to hit you in this class even up

1806
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 2: until my school, probably eighth grade. They stopped eighth grade

1807
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 2: physically if you were talking. I was always the class clown.

1808
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: I was always telling jokes. I was always disruptive, So

1809
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 2: the teachers would come over to me like behind and

1810
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 2: hit me in the head, like smack me similarly. You

1811
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 2: see the movies. You know this is not you know,

1812
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 2: it's not uncommon, right, so much so that my son

1813
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 2: I have four sons, thirty four now thirty two, twenty eight,

1814
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 2: twenty four. My oldest UH was valedictorian and went to

1815
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 2: Brown and then got his master's in PhD at Buffalo.

1816
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 2: And before he went to Brown, he did something called

1817
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 2: Teach for America, where you'd go to the worst parts

1818
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 2: of the country free. He was in Selma, Alabama, and

1819
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 2: he taught children. His class would be like seventy kids,

1820
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 2: predominantly black, twenty fucking desks, so fifty kids would sit

1821
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 2: on the fucking floor, and they would threaten him and

1822
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 2: they would do all crazy stuff. I remember he kept

1823
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: calling me, going, I gotta get out of here. This

1824
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 2: is crazy. That the parents would come in and see

1825
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 2: if my kid gets out a line, you could hit

1826
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 2: him with the stick you can hit him with an

1827
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:38,600
Speaker 2: actual stick and that would calm them down. My son's like,

1828
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 2: I'm not hitting anybody who's crazy, and me quit. So

1829
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it was very prominent physical abuse by people

1830
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 2: in authority to children. That was their way, that was

1831
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 2: you know, and a lot of times that was the

1832
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 2: Southern way all the way up till so he graduated

1833
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven, so it was going on

1834
01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight. That's not that long ago.

1835
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 2: You know, hit him with a I think it was

1836
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 2: called a twitch. It was like a long stick that

1837
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:05,759
Speaker 2: you would snap on the person.

1838
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 3: You'd have to be like smaller than with your thumb, right.

1839
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 2: I don't actually know what it was, but I know

1840
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 2: that they wanted him to use it, and one of

1841
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 2: the like So he was there like he lasted like

1842
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,600
Speaker 2: a month, and then he went to seven eleven to

1843
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 2: get a coffee and one of the big students there

1844
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 2: that was like bigger than him, threatened him and then

1845
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 2: he said, Dad, I got to come home. So he

1846
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 2: came home, and then he went to Brown So where

1847
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 2: I grew up. I felt a lot of abuse. I

1848
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 2: felt an outcast and for being a Jew, for not

1849
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 2: being athletic for not being physical, and thank god I

1850
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 2: had the ability with the weights. I taught myself how

1851
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 2: to work out, how to fight, you know, and how

1852
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 2: to protect myself calm. Ninth grade, it switched on me

1853
01:26:57,960 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 2: because it was a big problem because I didn't grow.

1854
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 2: And now all these kids that I kicked their fucking ass,

1855
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 2: they're like double size of me. But I beat him

1856
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 2: so bad in seventeenth grade that at least they memed

1857
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 2: that so they didn't touch me. But I knew at

1858
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 2: that point like I had to find another way. Watching

1859
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 2: football with my father was a psycho experience because if

1860
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 2: the Raiders, because I was always a rate of fan

1861
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 2: with them, Opal Raiders seventy two, seventy three, seventy four,

1862
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 2: seventy five, fucking Steels kept eating us in fluke fashions,

1863
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 2: whether it was the Frank o'haris catch, whether it was

1864
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 2: just Bradshaw being better than us, whether it was just

1865
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 2: whatever it took the steel. When the Raiders lost on

1866
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: a Sunday, he would like trash the fucking house and

1867
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 2: beat me and my brother and my mother. Now, when

1868
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 2: I say he wouldn't be punching my mother, he would

1869
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 2: like grab her in our hands and like, just like

1870
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 2: there no reason he would just be unhinged, as if

1871
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 2: he bet hundreds or thousands of dollars on the games.

1872
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 2: But he never bet in his life. He was just

1873
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 2: a rage aholic. He had that passion, he had that energy.

1874
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 2: And I think that's where I get it from. I

1875
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 2: get it from being a performer. I get it from

1876
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 2: being a people pleaser, being wanting to be liked, going

1877
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 2: out of my way to be nice to people a

1878
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:30,719
Speaker 2: because that's the right thing to do. Because I was taught,

1879
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,799
Speaker 2: I was shown my whole life how people are abusive

1880
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 2: to people. People are not actually nice inherently. I think

1881
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 2: it's because of the way they were raised, where their

1882
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 2: parents were raised where, and it's just generational. They were abused,

1883
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,719
Speaker 2: their grandparents abused them, their great grandparents agrees to parents,

1884
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 2: and it's like a chain. You know. That's why they say,

1885
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 2: you know when you got to therapy. I've been in

1886
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 2: therapy since nineteen eighty four, nineteen eighty four, and I

1887
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 2: was taught this, and you know, they always taught me

1888
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 2: that I have to let go of my father issues

1889
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 2: for a man. I was taught you have to you

1890
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 2: have to deal with your father issues. You have to

1891
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 2: deal with what happened, and you have to let it go.

1892
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 2: You can't carry around that anger because it's your father.

1893
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 2: And that was very, very hard to do for me.

1894
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 2: You know, to this day, I love my father. I

1895
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 2: take care of my father. My father's incontinent right now.

1896
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 2: So when he comes to my house, he shits in

1897
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 2: his pants. It's a fucking mess in my house. No

1898
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 2: one fucking helps me. I clean that fucking diaper. I

1899
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 2: clean it up. I put a new fucking diaper on him.

1900
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 2: I clean the fucking mess. Let me go back to

1901
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 2: watching football. So you know, part of me is like,

1902
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 2: you know, why are you doing this? You know, when

1903
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 2: you were a little kid, he didn't fucking have your back. Really,

1904
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: So when we were watching the Raiders, I watch foot

1905
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,759
Speaker 2: well much differently than other kids down the street because

1906
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 2: I knew if the Raiders didn't win, or if the

1907
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings didn't win, which was four fucking Super Bowls,

1908
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,679
Speaker 2: there was a fucking problem. It was a real fucking problem.

1909
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 2: So I watched the game. I watched every single play,

1910
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 2: I watched every nuance, I watched everything I m My

1911
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 2: mother taught me similar to how the Oklahomy has played

1912
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 2: similar how Pittsburgh Steel has played violence and violent defense

1913
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 2: and running the ball win super Bowls. So I had that.

1914
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 2: It was almost like going to school for what I

1915
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 2: eventually became, which was a sports advisor, picking games like

1916
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 2: I was. Uh So when the Raiders run a super

1917
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 2: Bowl nineteen seventy six, it was John Madden's only Super Bowls,

1918
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 2: Kenny stables only super Bowl, you know, Frip Litnikoff, that

1919
01:30:56,479 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 2: whole team love Hubbard. I've never seen my father so happy,

1920
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 2: and my goal in life always was to make my

1921
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 2: father happy. Because of my father's happy, then everybody's happy.

1922
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 2: Here is no problems. My mother was the direct opposite.

1923
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 2: My mother was a saint. My mother was the nicest

1924
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 2: person who met me in life. My mother loved everyone,

1925
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 2: taught me to love everybody unconditionally, taught me to help

1926
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 2: the less fortunate, taught me to go out of my way.

1927
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 7: Uh.

1928
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 2: It's one of the main reasons I never saved money.

1929
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 2: I could have been a billion a billionaire. I was

1930
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 2: making million dollars when I was fucking twenty three years old,

1931
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 2: and I was pissing away a million one because I

1932
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 2: gave it all away. I had a big entourage, had

1933
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 2: a big friend gathering, and I hung with them. I

1934
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 2: took them to super Bowls. I'd spend fifty thousand dollars

1935
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 2: on Super Bowls. I went to eighteen Super Bowls. We'd

1936
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 2: sit in fucking the best seats in the house, best restaurants.

1937
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 2: I picked up the fucking tab and I'd have parties

1938
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 2: out of my house. And that would be my mother,

1939
01:31:56,360 --> 01:32:01,599
Speaker 2: great cook. So she taught me almost like food's love,

1940
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like I remember when I

1941
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 2: just said to my mother, I said, Mom, I don't

1942
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 2: want to go to school tonight, even as a third

1943
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 2: or fourth grader, fifth grader, sixth grader, would you say, no,

1944
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 2: I don't worry about it. Stay home and we'll play Canasta,

1945
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 2: and we'll play Gin Rummy and we'll play Rummy, and

1946
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 2: I'll make you cheese omelet in the morning, and I'll

1947
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 2: make tuna fish for lunch, and then we'll have chicken

1948
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 2: cutlets for dinner. And that would be my fucking day.

1949
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 2: And that's how I bonded with my mother over food.

1950
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 2: So in nineteen eighty, let's speed everything up. A man

1951
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 2: came on Channel four, which was NBC, and his name

1952
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,680
Speaker 2: was Professor Picks.

1953
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 1: And how old are you at the time? Nineteen eight, okay,

1954
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 1: nineteen Professor Picks.

1955
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 2: He came on TV and he was an accountant that

1956
01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 2: created a short form tax form and he made a

1957
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 2: million dollars doing it, and he took the money and

1958
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 2: put it into computers to pick football winners and stock analysis.

1959
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 2: And he proceeded to talk for fifteen minutes about how

1960
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles Dick the Meal's team. Ron Jawaska was

1961
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 2: the quarterback. They were the darlings of the fucking world.

1962
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 2: I don't know why, I don't know how they were.

1963
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 2: They were supposed to be a very clean team, did

1964
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:36,719
Speaker 2: the right thing. Dick the Meal was above the Fray,

1965
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 2: did it right. The Oakland Raiders were dirty and scum

1966
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 2: and they had ex criminals work for them, and you know,

1967
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 2: they didn't give a fuck. They just wanted to win

1968
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 2: at any cost. And he proceeded to tell me and

1969
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 2: my father, never forget it, fifteen minutes how the Philadelphia

1970
01:33:55,840 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 2: Eagles were going to crush the Oakland Raiders were a

1971
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:02,640
Speaker 2: full point favorite at the time, so it's not like

1972
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:06,799
Speaker 2: he had, you know, some wild thought. Fucking odds makers

1973
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 2: said it, and me and my father will watch in

1974
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 2: this jerk off like fucking clueless moron, an expert, you know,

1975
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 2: explain how that's gonna happen. We said, there is no

1976
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 2: way that's happening. No prayer in no world. And everybody

1977
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 2: in my town, the fathers of the kids, also loved

1978
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:37,600
Speaker 2: the Eagles. Everybody was Eagles. Eagles. Radist killed them. We

1979
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 2: knew the raiders were gonna kill them. We were high

1980
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:43,719
Speaker 2: five and me and my father, I said, pop, because

1981
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 2: it's really weird. Because growing up Jewish, there was a

1982
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 2: lot of pressure that my mother wanted to be a

1983
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 2: doctor or a lay Those are my fucking choices, you know.

1984
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but that's how it was. And

1985
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 2: I said to my listen, I'm not really smart enough

1986
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 2: to be adopted, and I don't have the patience to

1987
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 2: be a lawyer. I can't study. I just can't do it.

1988
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 2: I don't have the patience. I'm out I had. Add

1989
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what I had, but I just could

1990
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 2: not study. If it came to me immediately, I could

1991
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 2: do it. Science. I was great at math, I was

1992
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 2: great at English. Sold studies in twelfth grade is probably

1993
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 2: on a sixth grade level. I got on my SATs

1994
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 2: in tenth grade. I got a five point fifty Math

1995
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:30,679
Speaker 2: three ninety English out of eight hundred and eight sixteen hundred.

1996
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 2: Three ninety English is about as bad as you could be.

1997
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 2: It's almost illiterate. Five fifty is basically average for there.

1998
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 2: So that blew me going to any college. My mother

1999
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:41,800
Speaker 2: wanted me to go to the best college. You know,

2000
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 2: my mother pumped me up, so did my father that

2001
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 2: They always pumped me up and my brother up. They

2002
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 2: loved us. But it wasn't real, you know what I mean, like,

2003
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 2: keep it real. It's not real. It's one of those

2004
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 2: parents that said you could do anything. That's I guess

2005
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 2: you could, but I didn't and I wasn't. So I

2006
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:01,680
Speaker 2: said to my father, listen. Bottom line is I want

2007
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 2: to go into this fucking business. If this jerk on

2008
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,800
Speaker 2: can be this wrong or this not being abusive, this

2009
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 2: expert that got the time on NBC the Friday before

2010
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl prime time, that spot costs gazillion dollars

2011
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 2: because I can't even imagine, and you got it for free.

2012
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 2: If he could be so wrong, Let's go into the business.

2013
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 2: Because my father always taught me defense, running violence, underdogs

2014
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 2: whome advantage toward from my father, like nineteen seventy seven.

2015
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sixteen years old. He's pounding into my head. Now.

2016
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:46,679
Speaker 2: Now gambling is legal now everybody, you know, you teach

2017
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 2: your kid this. If you want to gamble, you would

2018
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 2: teach your kids what I'm But then you know, there

2019
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 2: was no kids gambling. It was only legal in Nevada.

2020
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 2: There was one hundred book makers on Long Island in

2021
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 2: mass speak, in Farmido, in secret, all the towns, they're

2022
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,719
Speaker 2: all mafia. It was all mafia. It's the only book

2023
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 2: makers at the time. Mafia, mafia, mafia. And they didn't

2024
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 2: let kids bet. They didn't let little kids bet. They

2025
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 2: didn't let kids who are under really twenty one bet.

2026
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 2: You could bet, but you'd have to post money up

2027
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 2: and the limits then were very, very small. They wouldn't

2028
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 2: let you get in trouble because they knew you can't pay.

2029
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:27,640
Speaker 2: And then if you found the place that allowed you

2030
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 2: to have credit, you know, they knew you weren't. They

2031
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 2: knew you couldn't pay if you got in trouble, or

2032
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 2: certain players that had what's called a sheet where you

2033
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 2: would work for the book maker, you would get the customers,

2034
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,840
Speaker 2: and you would be almost called a half sheet. So

2035
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 2: fifty percent of the losses during a week, that's your money.

2036
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 2: If the people won, you would run a negative. You

2037
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 2: would run a negative until you got into the positive.

2038
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:58,759
Speaker 2: So a lot of people took shots. They said, fucking

2039
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 2: everybody could bet with me, and if you went bad,

2040
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 2: you just can't bet anymore until you pay. So that's

2041
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 2: what they would do. So I said, I'm going into

2042
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 2: this business. Now. The problem is this. When I went

2043
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 2: into the business, I could not get a merchant number

2044
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 2: to accept payment. Because when I went to a bank

2045
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:25,600
Speaker 2: and I said, listen, I'm gonna I have an expertise

2046
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 2: picking winners on football games, they looked at me like

2047
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 2: I had two heads. They said, okay, but if you

2048
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 2: were living in Nevada, that's fine because it's linging on

2049
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 2: the bottom. But it's not legal anywhere, so we're not

2050
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 2: going to allow you to have a merchant number on

2051
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 2: an illegal business. That's not happening. I said, yeah, yeah, yeah,

2052
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 2: but I'm not the bookmaker. I'm not taking the bet.

2053
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 2: They're like, but where's the point of purchase. Customer doing

2054
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 2: betting illegally, We're not letting it so how I used

2055
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 2: how I got a merchant number, my first merchant number,

2056
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 2: because I had to say I was selling sports appower,

2057
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 2: and then I would able to charge the cart. The

2058
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 2: second problem was nobody would allow you to advertise, nobody

2059
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 2: unless you were specifically in the state of Nevada. So

2060
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,719
Speaker 2: then what I would have to do is I bought

2061
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated customerless and we just randomly Me and this

2062
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:37,640
Speaker 2: guy that was twenty three years older than me. My

2063
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 2: father let me fifteen hundred and he put fifteen hundred in.

2064
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 2: We had two desks together, maybe the size of this bus,

2065
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 2: with a bathroom, and we would just sit there on

2066
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 2: the telephone and fucking call thousands of people a day. Hi,

2067
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 2: how you doing? Do you bet?

2068
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 1: Hi?

2069
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 2: How you doing? Do you bet? And of course ninnercent

2070
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 2: didn't bet. They're like, where'd you get my number from?

2071
01:39:58,439 --> 01:39:59,640
Speaker 2: And you get my number from? When you get you

2072
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 2: know the you know, it was like crazy, you know,

2073
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 2: And the good thing was that you couldn't block someone,

2074
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:08,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like if I had your

2075
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 2: fucking number, I had your number, you know what I'm saying, Like,

2076
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 2: I'll call you three.

2077
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 1: In the final number.

2078
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 2: It's over, right, it's literally fucking over.

2079
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 3: So I mean, I give you my number, and you

2080
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 3: won't he keeps. He sends me NBA pix literally every

2081
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 3: fucking day.

2082
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could run, but you can't hide.

2083
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 2: So then all of a sudden, I started seeing these

2084
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:36,560
Speaker 2: little one by one ads in newspapers. So then we

2085
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 2: were doing so well picking, Like in the early eighties,

2086
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 2: I'm talking I would hit eight out of ten every

2087
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 2: fucking week. So remember now, all you had was a

2088
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:55,680
Speaker 2: Saturday slate, a Sunday slate, no late Sunday game, and

2089
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 2: the Monday. That's it. You had three days, and we

2090
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 2: pound away for those three days, but against the grain,

2091
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 2: against the public, better defense, home teams, home underdogs, more

2092
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 2: violent teams, cover and one outright. Also, when I picked

2093
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 2: the winners, they would direct opposite of what everyone else picked.

2094
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 2: The public picked, the gamblers picked. So not only when

2095
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:28,559
Speaker 2: I won, I got your fucking attention, because like, let's

2096
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:30,640
Speaker 2: say I gave you the better team and they were

2097
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 2: laying seven, they won, they were betting that without me.

2098
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 2: And in the eighties up until probably I would say

2099
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two when ultro sports books just started, everybody

2100
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 2: bet the favorites. Because when you bet a game. You

2101
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:49,560
Speaker 2: don't want to be uncomfortable. You don't want to be like,

2102
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 2: you don't want to be so nervous before the game

2103
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:55,080
Speaker 2: starts that you could get blown out. You want to

2104
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 2: be on the comfortable side. You don't want to be uncomfortable.

2105
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 2: So my system was like fucking gold. It was absolutely gold.

2106
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 2: So I started running these little one by one ads

2107
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 2: saying I know more than you call me. And the

2108
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:11,839
Speaker 2: first name of my first company was Profit Line Sports

2109
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:16,080
Speaker 2: pro PHGT. And we had this like profit with like

2110
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:20,639
Speaker 2: a fucking wizard's hat and a computer at the time,

2111
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 2: like you know, like it was like, you know, it

2112
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 2: was state of the art, and we had a good

2113
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 2: artist and we put this little ad and my phone

2114
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:33,639
Speaker 2: rang off the fucking hook within three months. Within three months,

2115
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:35,760
Speaker 2: we wrote a quarter of million dollars. First year in

2116
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 2: Bizzy wrote one point three million, with our overhead being

2117
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 2: sixty thousand plus our bloodswat and tears. We were fucking

2118
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:46,160
Speaker 2: off to the races. Yeah, we went from So I said,

2119
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:50,719
Speaker 2: this bus the three thousand square feet in twelve months,

2120
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 2: I got forty people worker for me. Now now I'm

2121
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:57,759
Speaker 2: writing three million dollars twenty two years old fucking killing,

2122
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 2: absolutely killing. All of a sudden, I get a lawsuit

2123
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:09,439
Speaker 2: in the mail and it says that I'm being sued

2124
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 2: because not one of my customers, but a gambler sued

2125
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 2: everybody in Nevada that had a license. Because at the time,

2126
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 2: I went to lawyers and I said, I don't want

2127
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 2: to be I don't want to go to jail because

2128
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 2: the common theme of what I did is no matter

2129
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 2: how I told or who I told, what I did

2130
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 2: for a living, They're like, you're a book maker. I'm

2131
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:36,120
Speaker 2: not a book maker. I never took a bet in

2132
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 2: my life, never ever, ever. I didn't want to go

2133
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 2: to jail. Two things I never did was sell coke

2134
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 2: and be a book maker because I could not stand

2135
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 2: being in jail, Like I couldn't last a fucking day.

2136
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 2: You know. I saw those movies You drop the soap,

2137
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,640
Speaker 2: some guy's gonna fuck up your ass. I would rather

2138
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:52,640
Speaker 2: kill myself. I'd rather die. I would not you know,

2139
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:55,160
Speaker 2: not happening. And those are the main things that I

2140
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 2: figured to go to jail for not doing. So we

2141
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 2: had to get a license in Nevada at the time

2142
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 2: to sell pecks. Okay, this guy loses like four hundred

2143
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:12,680
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Gambling was never one of my customers. But

2144
01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 2: he gets a lawyer ensues every person that has a

2145
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:20,680
Speaker 2: license in Nevada. He killed his wife to get the

2146
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 2: insurance money game.

2147
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 3: No shit, So now he caught, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, this.

2148
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 2: Was his defense. He killed her, he got the money

2149
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:38,839
Speaker 2: because then, like then, the insurance company's paid immediately. Scams

2150
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 2: used to work like that in these seventies, in the eighties. Now,

2151
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 2: of course not. Now, they fucking investigate, They don't give

2152
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 2: you a dollar, They wait you out. You know, there's

2153
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 2: no time frame in the money. You know, they'll wait

2154
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:52,080
Speaker 2: you out to make sure it's not fraudulent. Then, you know,

2155
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:54,680
Speaker 2: scams will run every fucking day like this, whatever is

2156
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 2: fires whatever. You know, you know you got paid by

2157
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 2: the insurance companies. The scam were able to beat them

2158
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 2: senseless for you know, good sixties, seventies, eighties, maybe going

2159
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:07,559
Speaker 2: back to the fifties anyway, So I guess this fucking lawyer.

2160
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:10,759
Speaker 2: Lawyer says, well, you're gonna have to go to Nevada.

2161
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:12,800
Speaker 2: I go, I'm never going to Nevada where you got

2162
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 2: to testify. I never testified. Find out how much money

2163
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:19,479
Speaker 2: it's going to cost to settle, So ninety people paid

2164
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 2: the guy seven thousand to just settle. I did nothing wrong.

2165
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:26,200
Speaker 2: I had nothing to do with anything at the pay

2166
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 2: seven grand. But at the time I had a lucrative business.

2167
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 2: Fuck it, let's go. Then I caught a major, major

2168
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 2: break because ESPN in nineteen eighty four all of a

2169
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 2: sudden allowed me to advertise. So they had a they

2170
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 2: had like a TV guide of everything that was on

2171
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 2: HBO and all the major channels, and I was able

2172
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 2: to buy the inside front cover for profit line.

2173
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:59,400
Speaker 1: Sports of the TV guide, like the TV guide.

2174
01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:04,640
Speaker 2: Yes to me, like forty thousand dollars. I wrote like

2175
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:07,760
Speaker 2: a million six off of it. Then they then they

2176
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 2: said in March of nineteen eighty four, you could run

2177
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 2: national commercials a thirty second commercial. I had to make

2178
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 2: story boards and pitch it to these fucking executives. It

2179
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:22,560
Speaker 2: was fucking amazy. It was like great, I bought a

2180
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:24,600
Speaker 2: suit and I looked like a shlub because you know,

2181
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 2: I was like a giant fact. I was like two

2182
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty pounds at the time, so no matter

2183
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 2: what I wanted and look good. So I walked in there,

2184
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 2: but I could sell, and I could pitch, and I

2185
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 2: was not afraid of anything. I was not afraid of failing.

2186
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:41,639
Speaker 2: I was not afraid of no. Your job started when

2187
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 2: the customer said no. In tenth grade, I worked for

2188
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:49,760
Speaker 2: a place that sold unsold airtime for radio stations. Radio

2189
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 2: stations had so much airtime they needed someone to fill it.

2190
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 2: So my boss taught me how to sell. Just randomly

2191
01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 2: make shit up and set and I was able to sell,

2192
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:03,720
Speaker 2: so I knew how to sell. Then I sold. In

2193
01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 2: eleventh grade, I sold maintenance chemicals, office supplies, and we'd

2194
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 2: call these people that needed like cowmnua and you know

2195
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 2: older granules and you know fertilizer, and I knew how

2196
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 2: to sell and that skill set, you know, he taught me.

2197
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 2: Your job starts when the customer says no, and then

2198
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 2: your job starts when the customer says, never call me again.

2199
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 2: It hangs up on you. You call the guy right

2200
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 2: fucking back on redial, and you go listen to you, motherfucker.

2201
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:35,600
Speaker 2: I don't know who the fuck you are, but you

2202
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:37,960
Speaker 2: better give me fucking respect, because I come down to

2203
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 2: your fucking door and smash your fucking face and piece

2204
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 2: of shit, and guy'd be like whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm sorry,

2205
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 2: you know, because like you know, like I got him now,

2206
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 2: I got his phone number. I just threaten the fucking

2207
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 2: guy unless he's a made guy or he's a mafia

2208
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 2: guy's with someone he doesn't know who I am from

2209
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 2: New York. I'm talking like, you know whatever. So I

2210
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 2: got the fucking guy, and then he would have roll over.

2211
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:01,479
Speaker 2: I would send him like a fucking four oh one

2212
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:06,360
Speaker 2: a dayoa fucking test like some fucking testament filament, fucking

2213
01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 2: phishing reel. Or I'd sell them or I'd give them gifts.

2214
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 2: And I was great at it. I was fucking great.

2215
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 2: So so when I sold these people, they said, yes,

2216
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:20,560
Speaker 2: it was unbelievable. So we ran sixty thirty second commercials

2217
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 2: in March saying our profit line sports is a number

2218
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 2: one sports analyst in the world. We played the game

2219
01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 2: one hundred times in a computer and we decide what

2220
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 2: statistics and analysts work. Call us now. And of course

2221
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 2: I had a big sales force and they were really abused.

2222
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 2: So so HBO cuts off immediately and they stopped using

2223
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 2: national commercial. You could not buy a national commercial after

2224
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:44,240
Speaker 2: I did that, because they were like holy fuck, this

2225
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 2: guy just wrecked our fucking business. It was such a

2226
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 2: bad name because I was so abusive with the people,

2227
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:51,840
Speaker 2: because we sold, you know, we sold hard, like super

2228
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:53,920
Speaker 2: fucking hard. You know, a guy would hang up, We'd

2229
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 2: call again, guy hang up, call again, you know, like

2230
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 2: you know what they made do not calls, and they

2231
01:48:58,000 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 2: made these lists of what I used to do to people.

2232
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:01,559
Speaker 2: I get it, but you know it took me twenty

2233
01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 2: years to do it. But I did, you know, I

2234
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:05,920
Speaker 2: was doing in the eighties. So then all of a sudden,

2235
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 2: USA today, a national newspaper allowed us to fucket advertise

2236
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 2: and it was the craziest thing I've I'd run a

2237
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 2: basic ad, you know, I'd run a little ad, and

2238
01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:21,400
Speaker 2: then there was like twenty little ads. So then I said,

2239
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 2: how do I get rid of this competition? I ran

2240
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 2: a half page add and then somebody ran a quarter

2241
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 2: page add so then I ran a full fucking page

2242
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:32,960
Speaker 2: At sixty thousand dollars in nineteen eighty four. We have

2243
01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:36,840
Speaker 2: a freestanding building that we're on the second floor, six

2244
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 2: on nine Route one O nine in West Babylon. The

2245
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:42,680
Speaker 2: building is still there. Oddly enough, when Jenks came to

2246
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:44,439
Speaker 2: my house, for the first time. That works with tank

2247
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 2: right now.

2248
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2249
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:47,559
Speaker 2: I took him for six hours and I showed him

2250
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:51,560
Speaker 2: every building I owned, every place I went to, and

2251
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 2: he was floored. So you walk into this building and

2252
01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:59,799
Speaker 2: on the left side there was this little office, tiny office,

2253
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:03,680
Speaker 2: smaller than this, and it was these two guys and

2254
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 2: their job. What they did was supply strippers for strip

2255
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:17,599
Speaker 2: clubs on Long Island. And this is like eighty three

2256
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 2: and strippers and strip clubs in the eighties. They were

2257
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:25,440
Speaker 2: like crackers, you know what I mean. They were disgusting,

2258
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:33,760
Speaker 2: very thin, no tits, gross girls, but they were doing

2259
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:36,640
Speaker 2: it for the money. He would send them up to

2260
01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 2: my office and we just fucked the fuck shit out

2261
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 2: of them, you know whatever. We didn't give a fuck

2262
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 2: at the time, twenty you know, you'd suck anything. What

2263
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:48,800
Speaker 2: you know, then just do what you gotta do. All

2264
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 2: of a sudden, one day, this fucking guy in a

2265
01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:58,600
Speaker 2: fucking gazillion dollar suit with gazillion dollar jewelry, he is

2266
01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:04,120
Speaker 2: in the office. They come here. He goes, Yeah, Joey Bang,

2267
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:08,519
Speaker 2: I just got out of jail, did seventeen years. I

2268
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 2: killed five people. He goes, My two guys here, say

2269
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 2: you're a fucking guy. You're a fucking erner. You're a

2270
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:17,639
Speaker 2: fucking jew reclay stewarded jew. You're a fucking earner. He goes,

2271
01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 2: I want to do business now, my partner, I'm twenty two,

2272
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:28,160
Speaker 2: he's forty three. Here's Italian also, and he hated this guy.

2273
01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:30,560
Speaker 2: He says, the guy is a fucking criminal. Guy's a

2274
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 2: fucking loser. And my partner once we started making money. See,

2275
01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 2: my father taught me when I made money, don't show

2276
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:40,559
Speaker 2: you make money, don't don't dress like you make money,

2277
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 2: don't do anything reverse with this guy. This guy's in

2278
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:45,560
Speaker 2: his forties already. He wants to show his dick. You know,

2279
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 2: he's fucking everything that walks. He's going to these p

2280
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 2: W p beatings parents for our partners. He was single

2281
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 2: and he was taking down god, uh fucking fifteen girl

2282
01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:03,599
Speaker 2: crazy PW. And he goes, but I hate your hard

2283
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:07,679
Speaker 2: he's not your own me respect. I'm like, well, listen, listen,

2284
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:10,679
Speaker 2: I'm showing your respect, Joe. I don't want no fucking

2285
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:15,760
Speaker 2: problems here, like whatever. So they he starts having a

2286
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:20,680
Speaker 2: card game downstairs, and we were writing at the time

2287
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 2: about five million bucks on a board that you wrote it.

2288
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:26,760
Speaker 2: The minute guy makes a sale, we like we used

2289
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:29,720
Speaker 2: to sell, like we used to call a person up

2290
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:32,759
Speaker 2: and go listen. Our package is one point five million,

2291
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 2: but all I need from you now is one hundred

2292
01:52:35,880 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand, and you owe me one million, three

2293
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 2: hundred fifty thousand, and I'll work that off picking the winners.

2294
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:49,519
Speaker 2: And some people go, okay, that works. Think about that. Okay,

2295
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 2: that works. I got one hundred and fifty grand sale.

2296
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:55,720
Speaker 2: So we were just killing. We were killing. This guy

2297
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:58,960
Speaker 2: has a card game and one of my and one

2298
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 2: of my managers starts playing in the car game and

2299
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:04,840
Speaker 2: this guy, Jo says, I hate that fucking guy, Tony

2300
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 2: Upstairs's partner. I love the fucking jew but I hate

2301
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 2: the partner. I'm gonna fucking make a move. I'm gonna

2302
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:13,599
Speaker 2: send one of my guys up there. So he sends

2303
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 2: this Lucabrotzi guy up to my office and Joe says

2304
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 2: to me, Stewart, I want you to fucking give him

2305
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:22,800
Speaker 2: a job. What am I supposed to say? I said, yes, okay,

2306
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:25,640
Speaker 2: no problem. This fucking I couldn't even talk. He was

2307
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 2: not there to pitch, he was there to to look

2308
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:30,840
Speaker 2: and I was stupid enough to not take the board down.

2309
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:34,960
Speaker 2: So he told Joey everything. So I get into work

2310
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:38,799
Speaker 2: on a Saturday about ten minutes late, and my partner

2311
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 2: was fucking beat the fuck at him. He had a

2312
01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 2: two pay ripped off. His whole face was bloody. He goes,

2313
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:50,720
Speaker 2: fucking Joey, fucking send someone here to beat me up.

2314
01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:52,840
Speaker 2: I go, how do you know it's Joey? He goes,

2315
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? We know it was Joey

2316
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 2: because the day before we fired this Lucabrotzi guy and

2317
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:00,519
Speaker 2: it was a real hold to do, even getting him

2318
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 2: out of the office. So then my partner now has

2319
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 2: this fucking idea because I went back to my father,

2320
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 2: and my father was friends with my uncle who worked

2321
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:14,680
Speaker 2: for the FBI, and he took pictures. He said, get

2322
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:16,120
Speaker 2: out of the business. What are you fucking crazy, it's

2323
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 2: mafia business. Get out of the fucking business. You got

2324
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:19,519
Speaker 2: a fucking issue here. What are you gonna do? You

2325
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:21,680
Speaker 2: fuck get out of the fucking business. Do something else,

2326
01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 2: anything else, Just kick the fuck out. I said, I'm

2327
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:26,280
Speaker 2: not getting the fuck out. I make a lot of

2328
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:31,360
Speaker 2: money here. So my partner says he knows a friend

2329
01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 2: that's in the mafia. He goes to the friend. Friend

2330
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:37,800
Speaker 2: comes to the office. Friend says, Tony, you come with

2331
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 2: me to Brooklyn. I'm gonna drive to Brooklyn and we're

2332
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:48,320
Speaker 2: gonna meet this guy Rocco. Classic. So in Brooklyn, Rocco

2333
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:52,640
Speaker 2: has like a fucking an apartment in Bensonhurst, but in

2334
01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 2: the basement there's like fucking twenty TVs. And he sits

2335
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 2: down and he tells. My partner goes, Tony, what this

2336
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 2: guy joe He's gonna do is fucking kill you and

2337
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:08,080
Speaker 2: take your fuck moses. That's how it works. So you're

2338
01:55:08,120 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 2: with me now, I'll protect you. So on the way home,

2339
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:19,560
Speaker 2: the people in the car ask Tony what his addresses? Oh, maddress,

2340
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 2: and he thought that was weird, so he gives him

2341
01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:27,760
Speaker 2: a fake address. Okay, Tony comes back and says, it

2342
01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 2: was really fucking weird. I don't know what to do.

2343
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 2: But this guy Joey, they said he's gonna kill gonna

2344
01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:37,920
Speaker 2: kill us. I said, guy loves me. He's not gonna

2345
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:39,840
Speaker 2: kill me, because well, what the fuck is gonna kill me?

2346
01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:41,680
Speaker 2: It's the same as killing you, right, I said, yeah, Yeah,

2347
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 2: we're in this together. I'm not I'm not fucking bailing

2348
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 2: out of you. The next day, same situation. I get

2349
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:53,160
Speaker 2: to work like fifteen minutes late, and they beat the

2350
01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 2: fuck out of my partner and this time they wreck

2351
01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:58,840
Speaker 2: the whole office. Two people. But the problem was one

2352
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:01,600
Speaker 2: of the guys said to him like a Dodo, and

2353
01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 2: I know where you fucking live. You're at this, so

2354
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 2: we're gonna come to your fucking house if you don't

2355
01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 2: give us the money, because what they were asking for

2356
01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 2: was forty percent of our gross money. Before we wrote

2357
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:15,040
Speaker 2: we give them forty percent and then we're good. So

2358
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:20,080
Speaker 2: now he knows it's them because they gave the fake address.

2359
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 3: So he's now different, two different gangs coming at him now.

2360
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:24,480
Speaker 2: Right.

2361
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 3: So, by the way, quick pen your buddy, your partner

2362
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 3: has to stop showing up to work on time since

2363
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 3: I'm showing a burlernutes like fifty minutes, like, don't pitch

2364
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:36,480
Speaker 3: your feating at all.

2365
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 2: So so now we've got a real fucking problem. That

2366
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 2: a five million dollar business. Now, in those days, the

2367
01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:49,040
Speaker 2: big customers paid us in cash. They would put one

2368
01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:52,280
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars in a fed Ex, and

2369
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:57,840
Speaker 2: certain weeks we had three four hundred thousand dollars in cash,

2370
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:02,800
Speaker 2: just on which. Of course, you know we're blowing the money.

2371
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 2: We're going to Atlantic City. I couldn't lose the money

2372
01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:09,000
Speaker 2: quick enough. I couldn't buy enough coke. I couldn't give

2373
01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:12,360
Speaker 2: it away to my friends. I couldn't wait to go

2374
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:18,480
Speaker 2: to sporting events, paying top dollar shows. Everything restaurants. Walk

2375
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 2: in La Cirque, La Perigord, laburnadn matred d. Here's a

2376
01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 2: thousand fucking I want that table. We weren't even dressed.

2377
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:28,520
Speaker 2: You got it, mister fine. I tip everybody two hundred.

2378
01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:32,640
Speaker 2: I'd spend ten thousand. La Cirque, La Perigord, Laburnadin, all

2379
01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 2: the top restaurants in you know, in New York's Park Steakhouse,

2380
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:39,200
Speaker 2: every one of them, Smith Lenski's, every fucking one of them.

2381
01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:42,040
Speaker 2: They knew me because I fucking, you know whatever, I

2382
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 2: bought my way in. You know, I didn't have the rep,

2383
01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:46,360
Speaker 2: but I did want to get think of a flying fuck.

2384
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:48,800
Speaker 2: They treated me better than they would have treated Paul Newman,

2385
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:54,920
Speaker 2: A big star. Didn't matter. So my uncle says, if

2386
01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:56,200
Speaker 2: you're not going to get out of business, you got

2387
01:57:56,280 --> 01:58:00,280
Speaker 2: to call security. From here. You gotta get guards so

2388
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:03,840
Speaker 2: my father. It was the greatest because my father is

2389
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:07,240
Speaker 2: an army veteran too towards to Germany, and he was

2390
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:10,400
Speaker 2: a complete side guy. Complete. He comes there with his

2391
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:14,919
Speaker 2: friends and they bullet proof every one of my windows

2392
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:19,600
Speaker 2: with this plexiglass that was bulletproof. He puts starters in

2393
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 2: all of our cars so that we could start the

2394
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 2: car from the top of the office, because he says,

2395
01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:28,160
Speaker 2: that's what they do. They're gonna blow the car, and like,

2396
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 2: you know's whatever, this is nut. We sleep at the office.

2397
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:39,240
Speaker 2: We get two security cars on guns walk around with

2398
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 2: us everywhere we go. For two weeks, they build a wall.

2399
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 2: Now where to get into my office, you have to buzz.

2400
01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:52,160
Speaker 2: There's a guy sitting there with a shotgun in full view.

2401
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 2: They buzz you in under odd desks. Everyone shotguns unlimited ammunition.

2402
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:02,840
Speaker 2: I never shot a shotgun in my life. Nine even

2403
01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:04,760
Speaker 2: half the people there. You know what I'm saying, Like,

2404
01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:07,000
Speaker 2: if we had to shoot it, there's no way I

2405
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 2: would have had to take in a shotgun. I thought

2406
01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 2: about it in my head. I would take shotgun and

2407
01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:12,640
Speaker 2: bee person with it. I'm not that right, literally, there's

2408
01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:18,600
Speaker 2: no way. And Sandy at the time is working for me,

2409
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:23,400
Speaker 2: Her father is working for me, Her sister in law

2410
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:26,760
Speaker 2: is working for me, her brother in law is running

2411
01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:30,120
Speaker 2: the business. So this is like a psycho family operation. Here.

2412
01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:33,680
Speaker 2: There is a serious fucking situation and we're making too

2413
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 2: much money. Like you know, I'm like, it's too easy money.

2414
01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:41,560
Speaker 2: And I'm picking fucking winners left and night too, mind you,

2415
01:59:41,760 --> 01:59:45,760
Speaker 2: I'm picking fucking every winner every Super Bowl. I catch

2416
01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:50,520
Speaker 2: every Monday Night underdog, I catch every Sunday Underdog. I'm like,

2417
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:55,080
Speaker 2: fucking unconscious. People can't wait for me to give the

2418
01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:58,560
Speaker 2: picks out. Yeah, fuck, I'm giving to pick out on Tuesday.

2419
01:59:58,720 --> 02:00:00,920
Speaker 2: Because I saw the games already, I was able to

2420
02:00:01,120 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 2: click immediately. They're flying a Vegas with a one hundred grand,

2421
02:00:04,480 --> 02:00:08,000
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty thousand. They're borrowing money from Shylocks

2422
02:00:08,440 --> 02:00:12,000
Speaker 2: at two to three points a week, taking that money

2423
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:14,240
Speaker 2: going to Vegas to beout the games. Because I was

2424
02:00:14,400 --> 02:00:18,800
Speaker 2: that good at that time, so I had a major following.

2425
02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:21,839
Speaker 2: I was number one in the country, in the fucking country.

2426
02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:24,040
Speaker 1: So then.

2427
02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:29,800
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, after about six days, one of

2428
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:33,480
Speaker 2: the guys sitting there at the door with the he goes,

2429
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:36,520
Speaker 2: you can't live like this guys, listen, I'm gonna send

2430
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:42,400
Speaker 2: someone to your office. They'll solve this fucking problem. So

2431
02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:46,000
Speaker 2: I said, good. This guy comes in with a fucking cigarette,

2432
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:49,520
Speaker 2: just like a pure fucking movie. Me and my partner

2433
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:51,600
Speaker 2: behind our desks. This guy goes, I'll solve your problem.

2434
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:57,120
Speaker 2: Solve your problem. Twenty five thousand. What twenty five thousand,

2435
02:00:58,000 --> 02:00:59,600
Speaker 2: we'll give it that to you right now. No, no, no,

2436
02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:04,920
Speaker 2: twenty five thousand for life. Every year, and once a

2437
02:01:05,040 --> 02:01:08,040
Speaker 2: year you go to a Christmas party and you give

2438
02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:14,360
Speaker 2: the boss five grand I'm like, we're in. We're in now.

2439
02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:19,160
Speaker 2: Most people said to us, most people that I went

2440
02:01:19,240 --> 02:01:21,760
Speaker 2: to after I did the deal, they said, listen, the

2441
02:01:22,160 --> 02:01:24,360
Speaker 2: same as the other two. They're gonna take over your

2442
02:01:24,400 --> 02:01:28,120
Speaker 2: fucking business, you stupid fucking jew. Are you crazy? What

2443
02:01:28,200 --> 02:01:31,760
Speaker 2: are you doing? It's gonna go so bad, so quick.

2444
02:01:33,360 --> 02:01:35,640
Speaker 3: Okay, oh, like we just I had to piss so

2445
02:01:35,800 --> 02:01:37,200
Speaker 3: bad ahead, but don't tell you.

2446
02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:40,720
Speaker 1: I'm out. I'm out. We're literally gonna sit in silence. Yeah,

2447
02:01:46,120 --> 02:01:48,280
Speaker 1: oh god, I'm.

2448
02:01:48,240 --> 02:01:49,320
Speaker 2: Never a bo dull moment.

2449
02:01:49,360 --> 02:01:52,400
Speaker 1: Guys, for an hour, I know, I know, I love it.

2450
02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:54,920
Speaker 2: I can't wait.

2451
02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:59,960
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Speaker 3: Okay, so I think it's one of those deals where

2466
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:40,680
Speaker 3: there we don't have Yeah, let's jump back in.

2467
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll lose any moment of thought.

2468
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:43,520
Speaker 3: You're right, you're right doing this?

2469
02:02:44,320 --> 02:02:45,760
Speaker 1: No, okay, all right, cool, go ahead.

2470
02:02:46,720 --> 02:02:54,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So now he says this is the plan because

2471
02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:57,879
Speaker 2: they know that Tony, my partner, is not with anybody

2472
02:02:58,320 --> 02:03:02,080
Speaker 2: because they smacked myund They asked him if he was

2473
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:05,760
Speaker 2: with anybody? He said no, Then he reached out to

2474
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:10,120
Speaker 2: a second place, which smacked him around. So both places, no,

2475
02:03:10,920 --> 02:03:13,840
Speaker 2: he's not with anybody. So here's the plan. The guy goes, listen,

2476
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:16,960
Speaker 2: this is what we're gonna do. I'm gonna bring my

2477
02:03:17,120 --> 02:03:19,360
Speaker 2: guy back here because the guy that we met was

2478
02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:20,720
Speaker 2: not the guy.

2479
02:03:21,120 --> 02:03:23,120
Speaker 1: The one that you're gonna pay twenty five for life.

2480
02:03:23,200 --> 02:03:28,080
Speaker 2: Correct, okay, correct. So he brings his buddy, and his

2481
02:03:28,200 --> 02:03:29,720
Speaker 2: buddy says to me, this is what we're gonna do.

2482
02:03:30,360 --> 02:03:33,920
Speaker 2: We're downstairs right fuck me now, okay, And here's what

2483
02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:37,080
Speaker 2: the story is. You've been with me since seventh grade.

2484
02:03:37,880 --> 02:03:43,320
Speaker 2: You had a problem selling tickets, and I solved the problem,

2485
02:03:43,480 --> 02:03:45,960
Speaker 2: and you fucking with me. And it's on record, and

2486
02:03:46,040 --> 02:03:49,760
Speaker 2: it's on order, and I put it on order. I said, listen,

2487
02:03:50,040 --> 02:03:52,560
Speaker 2: why can't you go down without me? He goes, don't

2488
02:03:52,600 --> 02:03:54,440
Speaker 2: worry about it. I'm not gonna do anything. I'm just

2489
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:57,080
Speaker 2: gonna talk to him with we know this shit. We've

2490
02:03:57,120 --> 02:04:02,000
Speaker 2: done this before. I'm like, okay. And the things I

2491
02:04:02,120 --> 02:04:06,640
Speaker 2: did in the late in tenth, eleventh, twelfth grade is

2492
02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:11,640
Speaker 2: I sold concert tickets. I got the first five rows

2493
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:16,680
Speaker 2: for every show at the NASA Coliseum, Madison Square Garden,

2494
02:04:17,200 --> 02:04:22,280
Speaker 2: all of Jersey, all of CONNECTI all Philadelphia, I in

2495
02:04:22,840 --> 02:04:25,440
Speaker 2: I think eleventh grade. Me and Sandy bought Seventh Throw

2496
02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:31,080
Speaker 2: Center for Genesis at Madison Square Garden for the then

2497
02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:33,840
Speaker 2: there were three tour Gabriel left. It was the first

2498
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:36,200
Speaker 2: album they came out without Peter Gabriel. Don't know if

2499
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:40,040
Speaker 2: you're familiar with Genesis, Phil Collins and whatever. So and

2500
02:04:40,120 --> 02:04:42,720
Speaker 2: that was our favorite album. And as it turns out,

2501
02:04:43,440 --> 02:04:45,880
Speaker 2: follow You, Follow Me was our wedding song. So we

2502
02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:48,440
Speaker 2: paid this guy forty dollars each. I didn't have the

2503
02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:52,040
Speaker 2: money at the time. She paid. I paid Dutch and

2504
02:04:52,160 --> 02:04:54,640
Speaker 2: we said Seventh Throw Center. We meet this guy, and

2505
02:04:54,720 --> 02:04:59,120
Speaker 2: this guy says to me, I need you to bring

2506
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:02,480
Speaker 2: down people to wait online for me. It's either the

2507
02:05:02,640 --> 02:05:05,080
Speaker 2: night before we wait online from like eight at night

2508
02:05:05,440 --> 02:05:09,880
Speaker 2: until the show goes on sale, or six o'clock in

2509
02:05:09,920 --> 02:05:12,879
Speaker 2: the morning. You have people online, and then we filtered

2510
02:05:12,920 --> 02:05:16,960
Speaker 2: people in where you are. I said, okay, So I

2511
02:05:17,080 --> 02:05:20,840
Speaker 2: sold concert tickets and I sold pot only two things

2512
02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:23,640
Speaker 2: I ever did in high school and my first three

2513
02:05:23,720 --> 02:05:25,800
Speaker 2: years of college. I went to NASA Community College right

2514
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:26,839
Speaker 2: cross the Colosseum.

2515
02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:28,720
Speaker 1: So I.

2516
02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:35,280
Speaker 2: Was very popular and very valuable because if you wanted

2517
02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 2: to see a fucking show, you had to go through me. Now,

2518
02:05:39,520 --> 02:05:41,280
Speaker 2: none of my money, I didn't use any of my

2519
02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:44,400
Speaker 2: money for anything. This guy would give me the money

2520
02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:49,080
Speaker 2: pay each person either a first five roer cent a

2521
02:05:49,160 --> 02:05:53,320
Speaker 2: ticket for free, or one hundred bucks. So I sold

2522
02:05:53,360 --> 02:05:56,960
Speaker 2: concert tickets and we had a lot of wars with

2523
02:05:57,160 --> 02:05:59,680
Speaker 2: people because there would be people sitting online for a

2524
02:05:59,800 --> 02:06:03,040
Speaker 2: day ease and we would just literally I got football

2525
02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:06,760
Speaker 2: players to work for me. We would literally there would

2526
02:06:06,760 --> 02:06:08,280
Speaker 2: be like a list of like six hundred people that

2527
02:06:08,280 --> 02:06:10,000
Speaker 2: have been there for four days. I would literally walk

2528
02:06:10,040 --> 02:06:11,960
Speaker 2: up to the line, let me see the list. They

2529
02:06:12,040 --> 02:06:13,720
Speaker 2: go yes to sign here, take the list with a

2530
02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:16,200
Speaker 2: bit the fuck up, and then my football players would

2531
02:06:16,240 --> 02:06:21,040
Speaker 2: literally take these metal like barricades and squish them against

2532
02:06:21,080 --> 02:06:23,600
Speaker 2: the wall. We would filter like forty people in front,

2533
02:06:23,800 --> 02:06:25,760
Speaker 2: and then we put the barricade back and we go,

2534
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:27,760
Speaker 2: what the fuck you want to do? You want to

2535
02:06:27,800 --> 02:06:30,160
Speaker 2: fucking let's go? You want to fucking go? And a

2536
02:06:30,200 --> 02:06:32,760
Speaker 2: couple of times they beat this living fuck out of people,

2537
02:06:33,240 --> 02:06:35,720
Speaker 2: like literally like like should have gone to jail, shit,

2538
02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:38,520
Speaker 2: left them for dead. But then you know they were scared,

2539
02:06:38,920 --> 02:06:43,760
Speaker 2: so they didn't call the cops. So this guy says, listen,

2540
02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:47,680
Speaker 2: here's the deal. I helped you when you're having problems.

2541
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:51,240
Speaker 2: You're fucking with me, you've been with fucking me. I said, okay,

2542
02:06:51,280 --> 02:06:54,600
Speaker 2: but I don't want to go downstairs hereuse you gotta

2543
02:06:54,600 --> 02:06:57,960
Speaker 2: come down. It'll be very mellow. So I go down

2544
02:06:58,480 --> 02:07:02,920
Speaker 2: with this guy and the other guy stays upstairs, and

2545
02:07:03,120 --> 02:07:08,400
Speaker 2: he literally the second he walked in, just threatens the

2546
02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:10,760
Speaker 2: fuck out of this guy. He's like, oh, to fuck

2547
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:12,920
Speaker 2: you think you are. You're making a move on him.

2548
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:16,880
Speaker 2: He's fucking with me. Check on record, he's on fucking record.

2549
02:07:16,960 --> 02:07:19,920
Speaker 2: He's fucking with me. Who the fuck are you? And

2550
02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:22,440
Speaker 2: then this guy's like, oh, whoa, whoa. I didn't know

2551
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:24,960
Speaker 2: what you know, And that's how it went down. I

2552
02:07:25,040 --> 02:07:27,080
Speaker 2: didn't know how am I supposed to know.

2553
02:07:27,320 --> 02:07:27,800
Speaker 7: I didn't know.

2554
02:07:27,880 --> 02:07:30,920
Speaker 2: I hate his fucking partner, disrespect me. He doesn't say

2555
02:07:30,960 --> 02:07:34,440
Speaker 2: hello to me, this and that, and I'm literally sitting

2556
02:07:34,480 --> 02:07:37,720
Speaker 2: there thinking I'm getting shot. I'm literally getting shot here

2557
02:07:37,880 --> 02:07:39,720
Speaker 2: because he has a gun with him, he has a

2558
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:42,480
Speaker 2: gun on him. I know the other guy has a gun.

2559
02:07:42,520 --> 02:07:44,840
Speaker 2: He's already killed people. He's been he just got out

2560
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:48,480
Speaker 2: of jail, and I'm sitting there like like, I swear

2561
02:07:48,480 --> 02:07:51,120
Speaker 2: to God, my heart has never beat so fucking fast.

2562
02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:58,480
Speaker 2: But he backed down, back down, So then that really

2563
02:07:58,600 --> 02:08:01,360
Speaker 2: gave me the license. Now to just have a license

2564
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:04,640
Speaker 2: is deal? A licensee? Just go my It was my

2565
02:08:04,800 --> 02:08:07,600
Speaker 2: dream come true, Like I could do whatever the fuck

2566
02:08:07,720 --> 02:08:10,520
Speaker 2: I want. And if I got a beef, this guy's

2567
02:08:10,600 --> 02:08:13,720
Speaker 2: gonna fucking come and fucking tell you to fuck yourself,

2568
02:08:13,760 --> 02:08:17,240
Speaker 2: because it's on record that I'm with him. And his

2569
02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:22,720
Speaker 2: guy was like fucking like like a big guy, like,

2570
02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:26,240
Speaker 2: oh he on like three fucking bars and queens two

2571
02:08:26,320 --> 02:08:29,160
Speaker 2: bars in New York. And every time I met that guy,

2572
02:08:29,360 --> 02:08:32,320
Speaker 2: I was always super scared because he was always making

2573
02:08:32,360 --> 02:08:33,800
Speaker 2: a move on me. He's like, what can we do

2574
02:08:33,880 --> 02:08:35,280
Speaker 2: to make money? What can we do to make money?

2575
02:08:35,360 --> 02:08:40,400
Speaker 2: Like he didn't like physically make something happen, But every

2576
02:08:40,520 --> 02:08:42,320
Speaker 2: time it's a come on, can't you cut me in?

2577
02:08:42,640 --> 02:08:45,840
Speaker 2: What's the story? What's the deal? And I just kept

2578
02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:48,200
Speaker 2: him in the arms distance. I never was late with

2579
02:08:48,320 --> 02:08:52,120
Speaker 2: the money. I always went to the the Christmas parties

2580
02:08:52,600 --> 02:08:54,880
Speaker 2: and he'd be like, you know, he'd introduce me to

2581
02:08:54,960 --> 02:08:59,080
Speaker 2: everybody like, this is a this is a barry thy things,

2582
02:08:59,160 --> 02:09:02,040
Speaker 2: just gotta jail killing five people. He only has five

2583
02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:04,240
Speaker 2: things because he fucking got his hand cut off and

2584
02:09:04,280 --> 02:09:06,240
Speaker 2: fucking jail and be like, this is a fucking jew.

2585
02:09:06,360 --> 02:09:08,040
Speaker 2: Stewart a jew. He's a fucking ern it for us.

2586
02:09:08,080 --> 02:09:12,920
Speaker 2: That's how they introduced, Like Hi, how you doing. And

2587
02:09:13,120 --> 02:09:16,160
Speaker 2: this went on for like three years. Then all of

2588
02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:19,680
Speaker 2: a sudden, the guy that was the first guy that

2589
02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:23,320
Speaker 2: we met that wasn't involved with mafia says he needs

2590
02:09:23,320 --> 02:09:28,680
Speaker 2: a job, let's come work with me. And for some

2591
02:09:28,800 --> 02:09:32,000
Speaker 2: reason I unconditionally trusted it. I did not think anything

2592
02:09:32,080 --> 02:09:35,160
Speaker 2: bad would happen, and it did it. This guy became

2593
02:09:35,200 --> 02:09:39,080
Speaker 2: my best salesman, he became one of my managers and

2594
02:09:39,240 --> 02:09:44,040
Speaker 2: has my back to this fucking second. So my partner

2595
02:09:44,880 --> 02:09:49,240
Speaker 2: did not like this guy. He didn't like him, didn't

2596
02:09:49,240 --> 02:09:53,720
Speaker 2: trust him. So he opens his own office, takes half

2597
02:09:53,840 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 2: my crew were still partners, and goes like to hounds

2598
02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:02,680
Speaker 2: down the road, builds a state of the art office

2599
02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:08,400
Speaker 2: and he's doubling what I write, doubling me. Can't figure out.

2600
02:10:08,280 --> 02:10:10,640
Speaker 1: How well, all of a sudden, was it a bad

2601
02:10:10,680 --> 02:10:11,480
Speaker 1: breakup with you? Too.

2602
02:10:12,200 --> 02:10:15,400
Speaker 2: No, no, because he would never rob for me. There

2603
02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:18,200
Speaker 2: was no robbing about First of all, I'm close enough

2604
02:10:18,280 --> 02:10:20,520
Speaker 2: to this guy. Can't rob me because this guy fucking

2605
02:10:20,640 --> 02:10:24,600
Speaker 2: you know you can't. You know he knows it, but

2606
02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:27,640
Speaker 2: he just wanted to be the guy and he didn't

2607
02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:33,400
Speaker 2: like the situation. Okay, fine, he goes to this place

2608
02:10:33,440 --> 02:10:35,760
Speaker 2: and he's doubling my business. I can't figure out how.

2609
02:10:36,360 --> 02:10:39,120
Speaker 2: So what he's doing is just banging people's credit cards.

2610
02:10:40,040 --> 02:10:43,640
Speaker 2: He's randomly just fucking hitting him. Guy would pay two

2611
02:10:43,760 --> 02:10:45,360
Speaker 2: fifty for a week and then say no, I want

2612
02:10:45,400 --> 02:10:48,200
Speaker 2: to stop, and he'd have like two hundred of these people.

2613
02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:51,560
Speaker 2: He would just hit their cards for two fifty every single.

2614
02:10:51,600 --> 02:10:54,440
Speaker 1: Day, every day, even if they didn't want it.

2615
02:10:54,640 --> 02:10:57,240
Speaker 2: They had no idea, how about this? How about this?

2616
02:10:57,760 --> 02:11:01,680
Speaker 2: Only fifty percent of the money charged back? Only fifty

2617
02:11:01,720 --> 02:11:06,440
Speaker 2: percent charge back. People didn't even look at their credit card,

2618
02:11:06,480 --> 02:11:10,640
Speaker 2: they just paid it. It was like surreal. Eventually we

2619
02:11:10,760 --> 02:11:15,280
Speaker 2: lost all merchant gums. And I said, you're fucking that's ridiculous.

2620
02:11:15,560 --> 02:11:17,120
Speaker 2: How have you been doing this? You know you know

2621
02:11:17,200 --> 02:11:20,920
Speaker 2: how to sell, fucking sell. We make enough money selling you, scumbag,

2622
02:11:21,320 --> 02:11:24,840
Speaker 2: I said, we're fucking done, and he went a separate way,

2623
02:11:25,800 --> 02:11:28,400
Speaker 2: and then I kept my people and I did not

2624
02:11:28,560 --> 02:11:30,360
Speaker 2: hire any of the people that were with him back,

2625
02:11:30,880 --> 02:11:33,120
Speaker 2: just fucked them because they with scams in it. With

2626
02:11:33,160 --> 02:11:35,720
Speaker 2: these I'm like, how didn't you tip me off? You

2627
02:11:35,800 --> 02:11:38,440
Speaker 2: know this, that's a fucking felony. You're going to jail

2628
02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:42,240
Speaker 2: for what you just did. Thank god, I had enough

2629
02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:47,960
Speaker 2: money that I paid every single charge back, so even

2630
02:11:48,080 --> 02:11:51,600
Speaker 2: though they knew it was crazy, I paid it back.

2631
02:11:52,080 --> 02:11:55,880
Speaker 2: And they were embarrassed that they were so vulnerable that

2632
02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:57,880
Speaker 2: they could be whacked out for tens of you know,

2633
02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:01,120
Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars in theory you didn't catch it.

2634
02:12:04,040 --> 02:12:08,120
Speaker 2: Sandy was working at the time before she became my

2635
02:12:08,160 --> 02:12:13,880
Speaker 2: full time bookkeeper at Bank of America, I think it

2636
02:12:13,960 --> 02:12:18,240
Speaker 2: was Bank of America, and the FBI comes to her

2637
02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:23,120
Speaker 2: house fund and out comes in her fucking door and

2638
02:12:23,240 --> 02:12:27,040
Speaker 2: starts grilling her about used to work at the bank.

2639
02:12:27,840 --> 02:12:33,240
Speaker 2: What happened here? Your boyfriend just you know, you had

2640
02:12:33,280 --> 02:12:36,320
Speaker 2: two million in chargebacks? What you know? Would you know

2641
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:42,360
Speaker 2: were you on the inside and her mother going out

2642
02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:45,200
Speaker 2: with her four years at the top of my mother goes, listen,

2643
02:12:45,880 --> 02:12:48,760
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of my fucking house. You don't

2644
02:12:48,800 --> 02:12:50,840
Speaker 2: listen to you don't talk to my fucking door to

2645
02:12:50,920 --> 02:12:54,160
Speaker 2: go fuck yourself. You got something to fucking say, get

2646
02:12:54,200 --> 02:12:57,000
Speaker 2: me a give me a fucking warming, otherwise go fuck

2647
02:12:57,040 --> 02:13:00,840
Speaker 2: yourself and throw them out. And they never came back.

2648
02:13:02,120 --> 02:13:04,960
Speaker 2: So I could have been in a lot of trouble

2649
02:13:05,120 --> 02:13:08,480
Speaker 2: because you know, in other words, that I was still

2650
02:13:08,840 --> 02:13:10,680
Speaker 2: half partners with this guy at the time when all

2651
02:13:10,720 --> 02:13:13,880
Speaker 2: these stratege backs came in. I made it good and

2652
02:13:13,960 --> 02:13:17,920
Speaker 2: then that was it. So I escaped a very very

2653
02:13:18,120 --> 02:13:22,680
Speaker 2: big problem with that. And then from that point forward

2654
02:13:22,720 --> 02:13:25,920
Speaker 2: it taught me. So taught me to be squeaky clean

2655
02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:29,520
Speaker 2: with credit cards. Like squeaky clean, there was no bullshit.

2656
02:13:29,600 --> 02:13:32,760
Speaker 2: You know, you never overcharged a card like in those days.

2657
02:13:32,840 --> 02:13:35,600
Speaker 2: People would say, put it on the card and would

2658
02:13:35,640 --> 02:13:39,040
Speaker 2: get the code. They go, STU, hold the code, and

2659
02:13:39,120 --> 02:13:41,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna send you cash at the end of the

2660
02:13:41,040 --> 02:13:44,280
Speaker 2: week because they got paid in cash. Those days. It

2661
02:13:44,400 --> 02:13:47,280
Speaker 2: was cash. Everything was cash. There was no checks, there's

2662
02:13:47,320 --> 02:13:49,960
Speaker 2: no nothing else. There was no PayPal, there was no zell.

2663
02:13:50,280 --> 02:13:52,120
Speaker 2: It was you know, fucking you got paid in cash

2664
02:13:52,160 --> 02:13:54,800
Speaker 2: with a book maker and you paid whatever you were

2665
02:13:54,880 --> 02:13:58,600
Speaker 2: doing in cash and he kept what he would do

2666
02:13:58,680 --> 02:14:01,400
Speaker 2: also when you were when he still with me at

2667
02:14:01,400 --> 02:14:03,720
Speaker 2: the time, if they didn't pay after five days and

2668
02:14:03,800 --> 02:14:06,280
Speaker 2: we'd have like eighteen thousand on the wall because we'd

2669
02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:08,800
Speaker 2: have the customers like their sheets on the wall, he

2670
02:14:08,840 --> 02:14:12,040
Speaker 2: would go put her all through. And at the time

2671
02:14:12,120 --> 02:14:14,840
Speaker 2: I was okay with that because the deal was you're

2672
02:14:14,840 --> 02:14:17,960
Speaker 2: paying cash, you owe me the money. If you don't

2673
02:14:18,120 --> 02:14:19,960
Speaker 2: have the cash, then I'm putting the credit card through

2674
02:14:19,960 --> 02:14:22,640
Speaker 2: because I don't have your money. And then and then,

2675
02:14:22,880 --> 02:14:24,400
Speaker 2: so I should have seen the riding on the wall

2676
02:14:24,440 --> 02:14:25,720
Speaker 2: that when he went on his own, he was just

2677
02:14:25,800 --> 02:14:28,920
Speaker 2: gonna randomly just go wild, and that's what he did.

2678
02:14:29,000 --> 02:14:31,320
Speaker 2: And eventually he just went totally out of business. Everybody

2679
02:14:31,400 --> 02:14:35,600
Speaker 2: left him totally out of business. So now we're in

2680
02:14:36,280 --> 02:14:41,880
Speaker 2: let's see nineteen eighty eight. I get married to Sandy.

2681
02:14:42,360 --> 02:14:44,600
Speaker 2: On my honeymoon, I go Italy for two weeks, cruise

2682
02:14:44,680 --> 02:14:49,320
Speaker 2: two weeks, come back, and I say, got to buy

2683
02:14:49,360 --> 02:14:51,480
Speaker 2: a building. Gott I buy a building. So I buy

2684
02:14:51,560 --> 02:14:55,720
Speaker 2: my first building. It was a freestanding, four thousand square

2685
02:14:55,760 --> 02:14:57,880
Speaker 2: foot building. I pay three hundred and sixty thousand for

2686
02:14:57,960 --> 02:15:01,000
Speaker 2: the building. Right now, the building I sold in nineteen

2687
02:15:01,080 --> 02:15:03,880
Speaker 2: ninety five for like six sixty it's worth two point

2688
02:15:03,920 --> 02:15:06,200
Speaker 2: seven million. I fuck, I want to throw up. But anyway,

2689
02:15:07,400 --> 02:15:14,320
Speaker 2: so we buy this building. Now we're absolutely killing. And

2690
02:15:14,440 --> 02:15:17,200
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty nine was the eighty eight I bought

2691
02:15:17,200 --> 02:15:20,640
Speaker 2: the building, eighty eight I got married. Eighty nine we

2692
02:15:20,760 --> 02:15:24,960
Speaker 2: did our first show. It was called the Sports Advisors.

2693
02:15:25,720 --> 02:15:29,879
Speaker 2: We got this idea to go to MERV Griffin's resorts.

2694
02:15:30,120 --> 02:15:33,440
Speaker 2: We pitched MERV Griffin's like second in command guy. He

2695
02:15:33,720 --> 02:15:36,840
Speaker 2: gave us a five thousand square foot suite at MERV

2696
02:15:36,880 --> 02:15:39,680
Speaker 2: Griffin's Resorts. It was called the Griffins Suite through Nerve

2697
02:15:39,800 --> 02:15:43,920
Speaker 2: State with a fucking elevator, five thousand square feet. In

2698
02:15:44,040 --> 02:15:51,480
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine, mind you and Butler. Unlimited food, unlimited everything.

2699
02:15:52,080 --> 02:15:55,760
Speaker 2: They'd fly us from the airport which is in Farmingdale

2700
02:15:57,000 --> 02:16:02,160
Speaker 2: to Atlantic City. We would hang out on a Monday night,

2701
02:16:02,640 --> 02:16:06,200
Speaker 2: film the show on Tuesday, go home Tuesday night. And

2702
02:16:06,680 --> 02:16:13,640
Speaker 2: Jim Klack was the host, and he was a lineman

2703
02:16:13,760 --> 02:16:17,680
Speaker 2: for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and he was great at what

2704
02:16:17,800 --> 02:16:20,720
Speaker 2: he did. He was great, similar to you guys played

2705
02:16:20,760 --> 02:16:24,400
Speaker 2: the game, but could talk like a fucking professional analyst,

2706
02:16:24,520 --> 02:16:28,680
Speaker 2: you know, very glib amazing told stories. You know, his

2707
02:16:28,800 --> 02:16:31,400
Speaker 2: body count was two thousands, so we always bragged about too,

2708
02:16:31,440 --> 02:16:34,280
Speaker 2: how many women he fucked, which was two thousand. I said,

2709
02:16:34,280 --> 02:16:37,880
Speaker 2: how is that possibly? Goll I got a twelve go fucking.

2710
02:16:37,959 --> 02:16:39,680
Speaker 2: It was bossible. I was fucking for women to night.

2711
02:16:39,680 --> 02:16:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, great, that's great. And that was the

2712
02:16:44,120 --> 02:16:50,640
Speaker 2: first year we did the show and sports nineteen ninety.

2713
02:16:51,800 --> 02:16:54,160
Speaker 2: I was partners with a couple of people the first

2714
02:16:54,280 --> 02:17:02,320
Speaker 2: year and nineteen ninety I went on my own nineteen

2715
02:17:02,400 --> 02:17:05,800
Speaker 2: ninety it was the first year I did nine hundred

2716
02:17:06,080 --> 02:17:11,120
Speaker 2: numbers where people would pay me to speak to me

2717
02:17:12,000 --> 02:17:16,720
Speaker 2: and speak live, and my business was high end tickets.

2718
02:17:17,120 --> 02:17:19,440
Speaker 2: We could get a million dollars out of a customer.

2719
02:17:20,760 --> 02:17:23,360
Speaker 2: We would just take half of his winnings. And when

2720
02:17:23,480 --> 02:17:26,320
Speaker 2: we went on a roll, they were happy because on

2721
02:17:26,480 --> 02:17:30,080
Speaker 2: their own they got annihilated, like when people's when people bet,

2722
02:17:30,400 --> 02:17:34,160
Speaker 2: the misconception is that when you bet, when you actually bet,

2723
02:17:34,200 --> 02:17:37,760
Speaker 2: forget about picking anybody could pick. When you actually bet

2724
02:17:37,840 --> 02:17:40,280
Speaker 2: your fucking money and you get your teeth kicked in

2725
02:17:40,400 --> 02:17:43,160
Speaker 2: two weeks in a row, then you get your teeth

2726
02:17:43,240 --> 02:17:46,200
Speaker 2: kicked in three weeks in a row. Then the fourth way,

2727
02:17:46,200 --> 02:17:48,440
Speaker 2: you chase everything because you want to make up for

2728
02:17:48,480 --> 02:17:50,320
Speaker 2: the money, and you get your fucking ass kicked into

2729
02:17:50,360 --> 02:17:53,320
Speaker 2: fourth week, you're like, I got fucking problems. Then you

2730
02:17:53,440 --> 02:17:57,520
Speaker 2: normally start borrowing money is in eighties and nineties to

2731
02:17:57,640 --> 02:18:00,520
Speaker 2: pay what you can't pay, and then you're betting. You

2732
02:18:00,680 --> 02:18:04,959
Speaker 2: reach out for help. So people at that time would

2733
02:18:04,959 --> 02:18:08,920
Speaker 2: pay me anything to win, because because when people bet

2734
02:18:09,080 --> 02:18:12,160
Speaker 2: you don't hit fifty percent, you don't hit forty percent,

2735
02:18:12,320 --> 02:18:17,560
Speaker 2: you hit twenty percent, you get fucking annihilated. You know,

2736
02:18:17,920 --> 02:18:19,760
Speaker 2: as Dave would tell you, as Big Cat would tell you,

2737
02:18:19,879 --> 02:18:22,440
Speaker 2: you know, you lose a lot of fucking money, a

2738
02:18:22,720 --> 02:18:23,400
Speaker 2: lot of money.

2739
02:18:24,240 --> 02:18:25,560
Speaker 3: And so.

2740
02:18:27,920 --> 02:18:31,320
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, the craze, the big crave was

2741
02:18:31,480 --> 02:18:36,440
Speaker 2: nine hundred numbers. Sex phones were on nine hundred numbers

2742
02:18:36,959 --> 02:18:40,240
Speaker 2: where you would pay anywhere between five dollars to twenty

2743
02:18:40,320 --> 02:18:43,720
Speaker 2: five dollars to listen to the girl's talk on a record,

2744
02:18:43,760 --> 02:18:49,879
Speaker 2: a message or live. Dean Warwick did the Psychic Friends

2745
02:18:50,000 --> 02:18:54,200
Speaker 2: Network and they were writing hundreds of millions dollars orf

2746
02:18:54,280 --> 02:18:57,240
Speaker 2: nine hundred numbers. It would be paid like five dollars

2747
02:18:57,320 --> 02:19:01,440
Speaker 2: per minute. And then sports started getting off the wall

2748
02:19:01,480 --> 02:19:03,880
Speaker 2: with nine hundred numbers, and I was always scared because

2749
02:19:04,000 --> 02:19:06,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, there's a ten dollar number, a twenty five

2750
02:19:06,640 --> 02:19:08,800
Speaker 2: dollar number, and a fifty dollar number. That's how I started.

2751
02:19:08,879 --> 02:19:12,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, how can I ever bump the people? Well,

2752
02:19:12,360 --> 02:19:15,840
Speaker 2: ps the first day I ran my ad on the

2753
02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:18,760
Speaker 2: TV show. First day on the twenty five dollar number,

2754
02:19:18,800 --> 02:19:23,720
Speaker 2: I wrote thirty thousand dollars first day, and then I

2755
02:19:23,959 --> 02:19:27,000
Speaker 2: bumped the twenty five dollar number to the fifty dollar number,

2756
02:19:27,040 --> 02:19:29,680
Speaker 2: which wroughte another thirty thousand dollars. So I was riding

2757
02:19:29,720 --> 02:19:34,320
Speaker 2: like sixty thousand a week on nine hundred numbers. All

2758
02:19:34,440 --> 02:19:37,120
Speaker 2: my salesman were super scared right now because like they

2759
02:19:37,200 --> 02:19:39,320
Speaker 2: knew at that moment, I don't need that. This is

2760
02:19:39,440 --> 02:19:42,080
Speaker 2: much clean of business. I just put a three minute,

2761
02:19:42,080 --> 02:19:45,080
Speaker 2: four minute analysis on a record. A message gets fucking

2762
02:19:45,160 --> 02:19:47,600
Speaker 2: hit to the nine hundred number, and you're fucking golden.

2763
02:19:48,840 --> 02:19:52,240
Speaker 2: So we were writing. We wrote like eight million dollars.

2764
02:19:52,959 --> 02:19:55,520
Speaker 2: We wrote four million, six million, eight million, back to

2765
02:19:55,640 --> 02:20:00,440
Speaker 2: back to back, and the show is just absolutely murdering.

2766
02:20:00,720 --> 02:20:03,000
Speaker 1: It was all off the TV show and this is

2767
02:20:03,080 --> 02:20:04,119
Speaker 1: you going so low.

2768
02:20:04,640 --> 02:20:07,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm alone right now. All my fucking money, all

2769
02:20:07,400 --> 02:20:10,480
Speaker 2: my money, so I'm like, this is nuts, this is

2770
02:20:10,640 --> 02:20:12,600
Speaker 2: I got the world by the bulls. And then all

2771
02:20:12,640 --> 02:20:20,199
Speaker 2: of a sudden, this fucking scumbag rupert murder Channel five,

2772
02:20:20,560 --> 02:20:24,120
Speaker 2: Fox five says, I want to get into the NFL game.

2773
02:20:25,440 --> 02:20:28,200
Speaker 2: I want to fucking take the NFL. Should the NFL

2774
02:20:28,280 --> 02:20:33,160
Speaker 2: programming from CBS? And he makes an absurd offer and

2775
02:20:33,280 --> 02:20:35,600
Speaker 2: takes it from CBS and he puts it on Fox five.

2776
02:20:35,920 --> 02:20:39,960
Speaker 2: But here's the problem. He has no sports channels. I'm

2777
02:20:40,000 --> 02:20:43,440
Speaker 2: in like every sports channel in the country Thursday night,

2778
02:20:43,840 --> 02:20:47,039
Speaker 2: Friday night, Saturday morning, Sunday morning, I'm in like sixty

2779
02:20:47,160 --> 02:20:49,800
Speaker 2: sports channels. We have a budget of like one hundred

2780
02:20:49,840 --> 02:20:53,840
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars a week. He buys all the

2781
02:20:53,879 --> 02:20:55,640
Speaker 2: sports channels and throws me off.

2782
02:20:56,520 --> 02:20:57,160
Speaker 3: Do you not like you?

2783
02:20:58,000 --> 02:21:01,680
Speaker 2: No, he needed it for his NFL program and at

2784
02:21:01,720 --> 02:21:06,240
Speaker 2: the time ninety three is when he started, he bought

2785
02:21:06,280 --> 02:21:08,280
Speaker 2: them all ninety three, threw me off, and then in

2786
02:21:08,440 --> 02:21:12,200
Speaker 2: ninety four he actually had it where he owned the

2787
02:21:12,280 --> 02:21:19,120
Speaker 2: NFL programming. There's nothing I could do. Nothing I could

2788
02:21:19,120 --> 02:21:22,320
Speaker 2: do because the NFL at the time, gambling was like taboo.

2789
02:21:22,480 --> 02:21:24,800
Speaker 2: You couldn't even say that, you know, like think about it,

2790
02:21:24,879 --> 02:21:27,240
Speaker 2: now it's you know ninety four. It was like, you know,

2791
02:21:28,000 --> 02:21:32,680
Speaker 2: no way. So then I started scramming. So then I

2792
02:21:32,800 --> 02:21:36,400
Speaker 2: had to retake back the nine eight hundred business and

2793
02:21:36,520 --> 02:21:39,800
Speaker 2: try to make it go live. And the Internet was

2794
02:21:40,120 --> 02:21:43,920
Speaker 2: just a thought. We went to like ten separate seminars

2795
02:21:44,080 --> 02:21:46,440
Speaker 2: on the Internet, and the Internet was like the most

2796
02:21:46,600 --> 02:21:48,760
Speaker 2: obscure thing. You would go to this fucking meeting and

2797
02:21:49,480 --> 02:21:52,400
Speaker 2: now it's like you live on it. But then people

2798
02:21:52,440 --> 02:21:54,560
Speaker 2: would talk about we have these we have a way

2799
02:21:55,000 --> 02:21:58,360
Speaker 2: that throughout the world, we have this thing that it's

2800
02:21:58,400 --> 02:22:02,279
Speaker 2: gonna be there and everybody's going to be there. So major, major,

2801
02:22:02,480 --> 02:22:06,240
Speaker 2: big players dumped so much money into the Internet. In

2802
02:22:06,400 --> 02:22:11,200
Speaker 2: ninety five, lost their fucking dick. Ninety six, they chased

2803
02:22:11,200 --> 02:22:16,040
Speaker 2: it again, got murdered ninety seven, got murdered ninety eight.

2804
02:22:16,040 --> 02:22:19,520
Speaker 2: It blew up. So these people who were on the

2805
02:22:19,600 --> 02:22:24,280
Speaker 2: balls of their ass almost bankrupt, became millionaires. And I

2806
02:22:24,520 --> 02:22:28,240
Speaker 2: was not ready for I could not understand it. I

2807
02:22:28,440 --> 02:22:32,879
Speaker 2: didn't have the skill set at the time. In nineteen

2808
02:22:33,080 --> 02:22:38,400
Speaker 2: ninety and ninety one, I advertised on score phones. I

2809
02:22:38,480 --> 02:22:41,680
Speaker 2: advertised in two hundred score phones in two hundred different cities.

2810
02:22:42,160 --> 02:22:46,680
Speaker 2: They gave scores odds lines, injury Reports, weather reports. They

2811
02:22:46,760 --> 02:22:49,360
Speaker 2: also jammed nine hundred numbers in it, and I would

2812
02:22:49,400 --> 02:22:51,920
Speaker 2: have the first thirty seconds, going, Hi, Folcus is Steve

2813
02:22:51,920 --> 02:22:53,520
Speaker 2: Fineman right now? I have the lock of the year.

2814
02:22:53,520 --> 02:22:54,760
Speaker 2: I have a game that can't lose. I have a

2815
02:22:54,800 --> 02:22:56,720
Speaker 2: game you can bet your children's eyes on. Called me

2816
02:22:56,760 --> 02:23:00,640
Speaker 2: now at eight hundred, and that was I was able

2817
02:23:00,680 --> 02:23:04,039
Speaker 2: to soften the blow of losing all my TV networks

2818
02:23:05,640 --> 02:23:08,400
Speaker 2: to Rupert Murdock. So I still had my show, but

2819
02:23:08,480 --> 02:23:10,400
Speaker 2: my budget went from one hundred and fifty thousand to

2820
02:23:10,680 --> 02:23:15,080
Speaker 2: thirty thousand. I was in very select networks and not

2821
02:23:15,200 --> 02:23:20,280
Speaker 2: the biggest ones. But I was on Scorephones. I was

2822
02:23:20,360 --> 02:23:24,520
Speaker 2: doing good, doing good enough. So in nineteen ninety three,

2823
02:23:24,600 --> 02:23:27,640
Speaker 2: the person that owned the score phones, he loses like

2824
02:23:27,800 --> 02:23:32,160
Speaker 2: four million dollars gambling in like four months in Vegas.

2825
02:23:32,240 --> 02:23:35,640
Speaker 2: He just went on the worst fucking you know, full

2826
02:23:35,760 --> 02:23:38,320
Speaker 2: tilt end. Ever, he says to me, still, I want

2827
02:23:38,320 --> 02:23:41,000
Speaker 2: to sell you the business, Like, why would you hold

2828
02:23:41,040 --> 02:23:43,119
Speaker 2: me your businesses, it's a fucking great business. I'm paying

2829
02:23:43,120 --> 02:23:45,360
Speaker 2: you a million to a year. You're fucking He goes,

2830
02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:50,879
Speaker 2: I got in trouble. So we come to an agreement.

2831
02:23:51,120 --> 02:23:56,640
Speaker 2: Four million dollars, put a million down, finance three million. Fine.

2832
02:23:57,080 --> 02:24:00,320
Speaker 2: It's a steal. It's fucking like stealing money, and say

2833
02:24:00,400 --> 02:24:07,279
Speaker 2: no to it. I worked as a landscaper for William Schwindler.

2834
02:24:08,400 --> 02:24:10,960
Speaker 2: He was the co founder of Grumman Aerospace. He was

2835
02:24:11,040 --> 02:24:14,320
Speaker 2: partners with Leroy Grumman. They built all the fighter planes

2836
02:24:14,600 --> 02:24:17,959
Speaker 2: in World War Two. He was the engineer. His claim

2837
02:24:18,000 --> 02:24:20,440
Speaker 2: to fame was in the movie Apollo thirteen worth Gary

2838
02:24:20,480 --> 02:24:23,240
Speaker 2: Sonice and Tom Hanks when they were stuck up in

2839
02:24:23,280 --> 02:24:27,280
Speaker 2: the fucking air. There's a scene in the movie with

2840
02:24:27,360 --> 02:24:29,480
Speaker 2: his two big tables and this guy comes in and

2841
02:24:29,560 --> 02:24:31,360
Speaker 2: throw a shit on the table and says, you're the

2842
02:24:31,360 --> 02:24:33,840
Speaker 2: smartest people in the world. They're gonna come through the

2843
02:24:33,840 --> 02:24:38,360
Speaker 2: atmosphere and burn the fuck up. We need to figure

2844
02:24:38,360 --> 02:24:40,959
Speaker 2: out how to save them, and you're the smartest people

2845
02:24:41,080 --> 02:24:44,000
Speaker 2: to figure it out. This guy saved them. When they landed.

2846
02:24:44,080 --> 02:24:46,080
Speaker 2: In real life, they drove right to his fucking house

2847
02:24:46,200 --> 02:24:49,880
Speaker 2: which is now my house, and thanked him. Vice presidents

2848
02:24:49,920 --> 02:24:52,840
Speaker 2: were in my basement during World War Two while he

2849
02:24:53,080 --> 02:24:57,360
Speaker 2: was building the fucking fighter planes to fight the fucking Germans. Okay,

2850
02:24:58,200 --> 02:25:04,400
Speaker 2: so I when we got caught swimming in his pool

2851
02:25:04,480 --> 02:25:08,120
Speaker 2: in sixth grade, and instead of him giving us hard time,

2852
02:25:08,160 --> 02:25:10,959
Speaker 2: he goes, next year, will hire you. So he hired

2853
02:25:10,959 --> 02:25:14,360
Speaker 2: me and my brother and like four friends. Oh lasted

2854
02:25:14,440 --> 02:25:16,960
Speaker 2: like four months because we ran around. We did nothing this.

2855
02:25:17,240 --> 02:25:19,040
Speaker 2: We worked for this guy Bill and we were in

2856
02:25:19,120 --> 02:25:21,480
Speaker 2: this greenhouse on the property of a seven point eight acres.

2857
02:25:21,480 --> 02:25:23,720
Speaker 2: It was absolutely fucking incredible. It was a one point

2858
02:25:23,760 --> 02:25:26,320
Speaker 2: eight acre side field. It was three point two acres

2859
02:25:26,360 --> 02:25:28,200
Speaker 2: in the back and we were on two point five

2860
02:25:28,240 --> 02:25:30,920
Speaker 2: eight acres. He had a nineteen hundred square foot nineteen

2861
02:25:31,000 --> 02:25:34,160
Speaker 2: thirty six English tutor. He had a barn, he had

2862
02:25:34,200 --> 02:25:38,560
Speaker 2: a tool shed, he had a chicken coop, horse stables,

2863
02:25:39,520 --> 02:25:43,039
Speaker 2: twenty by sixty in the ground pool next to the pool,

2864
02:25:43,080 --> 02:25:46,760
Speaker 2: men's bathroom, men show, women's bathroom, women's shower. Three million

2865
02:25:46,800 --> 02:25:51,039
Speaker 2: dollars in trees, psycho fucking trees, maple trees, oak trees,

2866
02:25:51,879 --> 02:25:53,880
Speaker 2: in human It was like you were at a fucking arboreator.

2867
02:25:54,400 --> 02:25:58,480
Speaker 2: The house was take your breath away. We worked there

2868
02:25:58,520 --> 02:26:01,039
Speaker 2: four months, got fired and I told the guy day one,

2869
02:26:01,160 --> 02:26:02,920
Speaker 2: I said, when you die, I want to buy your house.

2870
02:26:03,520 --> 02:26:06,040
Speaker 2: Fucking guy dies, said, I buy his fucking house. Nineteen

2871
02:26:06,120 --> 02:26:09,280
Speaker 2: ninety So in nineteen ninety four, the way I got

2872
02:26:09,320 --> 02:26:12,640
Speaker 2: the million dollars was my house is on a two

2873
02:26:12,680 --> 02:26:16,560
Speaker 2: point five acre piece that it's one acre zoning. The

2874
02:26:16,640 --> 02:26:18,840
Speaker 2: one point eighty cassade field next to me is one

2875
02:26:18,920 --> 02:26:22,160
Speaker 2: acre zoning. The back three point two acres is seventy

2876
02:26:22,200 --> 02:26:25,560
Speaker 2: by one hundred zoning. So I built eleven houses. I built,

2877
02:26:25,959 --> 02:26:28,600
Speaker 2: I made a cul de sac, I got the roads approved,

2878
02:26:28,680 --> 02:26:30,400
Speaker 2: I put the roads in, I put the sewers in,

2879
02:26:30,840 --> 02:26:34,039
Speaker 2: I plotted the land out named after my oldest son,

2880
02:26:34,120 --> 02:26:36,960
Speaker 2: Sean Michael, and I flipped it and I took that money,

2881
02:26:37,240 --> 02:26:41,720
Speaker 2: bought the score phones. Score phones were fucking killing. Nine

2882
02:26:41,800 --> 02:26:44,320
Speaker 2: hundred numbers were killing. I have the eight hundred numbers,

2883
02:26:44,800 --> 02:26:47,320
Speaker 2: even though I lost the TV show, which would have

2884
02:26:47,360 --> 02:26:50,720
Speaker 2: made me probably a twenty thirty fifty million dollar a

2885
02:26:50,920 --> 02:26:53,320
Speaker 2: year guy, because it was just growing, growing, grown, because

2886
02:26:53,320 --> 02:26:55,040
Speaker 2: the TV show is just off the fucking wall. It

2887
02:26:55,080 --> 02:26:58,200
Speaker 2: was the only show. It's the only fucking show. And

2888
02:26:58,280 --> 02:27:00,560
Speaker 2: that's where I built my reputations being so and being

2889
02:27:00,680 --> 02:27:04,880
Speaker 2: entertaining and screaming, yelling because I knew that gamblers gambling

2890
02:27:05,160 --> 02:27:08,560
Speaker 2: in reality is only and only should be for the

2891
02:27:08,720 --> 02:27:13,320
Speaker 2: rich to have fun and lose money. Gambling equates to

2892
02:27:13,560 --> 02:27:18,160
Speaker 2: losing money. Gambling equates to having fun and losing money.

2893
02:27:18,360 --> 02:27:20,520
Speaker 2: There is no winning. You could say, stew somebody wins.

2894
02:27:20,640 --> 02:27:24,080
Speaker 2: Nobody wins. They've never won, they never will win. Two

2895
02:27:24,160 --> 02:27:26,920
Speaker 2: types of gamblers. A gamble who says he's a winner,

2896
02:27:27,760 --> 02:27:30,360
Speaker 2: he's a lawyer, and he's a loser, or just a

2897
02:27:30,400 --> 02:27:34,440
Speaker 2: straight up gambler that's just a loser. So that's the

2898
02:27:34,560 --> 02:27:39,680
Speaker 2: reality of gambling since the beginning of fucking time. Now

2899
02:27:40,360 --> 02:27:47,119
Speaker 2: DraftKings FanDuel me, barstool you anyone that's not what we say,

2900
02:27:47,840 --> 02:27:50,280
Speaker 2: We fucking get on that. We gave a hunt, We

2901
02:27:50,320 --> 02:27:53,560
Speaker 2: give one hundred percent to be entertaining, to be funny,

2902
02:27:54,040 --> 02:27:56,800
Speaker 2: to be enjoyable, to take you out of your miserable,

2903
02:27:56,959 --> 02:28:01,080
Speaker 2: scumbag fucking life that sucks cock and you can escape.

2904
02:28:01,959 --> 02:28:06,280
Speaker 2: But the reality is, eventually gambling is gonna ruin everything.

2905
02:28:07,400 --> 02:28:11,480
Speaker 2: Gambling being legal is gonna ruin children, It's gonna ruin everyone.

2906
02:28:11,560 --> 02:28:16,119
Speaker 2: It takes. It teaches you such bad habits, and God

2907
02:28:16,240 --> 02:28:20,640
Speaker 2: forbid you win early, and you win quick, and you

2908
02:28:20,760 --> 02:28:22,960
Speaker 2: got a bankload of money. That's the worst fucking thing

2909
02:28:23,000 --> 02:28:24,680
Speaker 2: that could happen The best thing it can happen is

2910
02:28:24,720 --> 02:28:26,800
Speaker 2: you gamble and you go in hard and you get

2911
02:28:26,800 --> 02:28:29,680
Speaker 2: your fucking teeth king kicked in. So then you learn

2912
02:28:30,400 --> 02:28:34,280
Speaker 2: I love gambling. I'm gonna gamble forever. Let's take a

2913
02:28:34,320 --> 02:28:36,720
Speaker 2: couple of zero so for what I'm gonna play. So

2914
02:28:36,920 --> 02:28:39,840
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with gambling every fucking day. Nothing wrong

2915
02:28:39,840 --> 02:28:45,080
Speaker 2: with it. I suggest it. Do it, but be irresponsible

2916
02:28:45,360 --> 02:28:48,640
Speaker 2: because you're never winning, and it's going to ruin your life.

2917
02:28:48,959 --> 02:28:51,000
Speaker 2: Not only will it ruin your life, it will ruin

2918
02:28:51,280 --> 02:28:55,280
Speaker 2: how you go about every decision in your life, whether

2919
02:28:55,320 --> 02:28:59,199
Speaker 2: it's how you treat people, whether it's women, whether it's business.

2920
02:29:00,080 --> 02:29:04,040
Speaker 2: He goes gambling is quick fix, quick fix. Wow, in

2921
02:29:04,160 --> 02:29:06,240
Speaker 2: two hours, I get a bug a boatload of money.

2922
02:29:06,480 --> 02:29:09,480
Speaker 2: But that's not how life works. Well, Stu, I'm going

2923
02:29:09,560 --> 02:29:14,600
Speaker 2: to study, Stu. I had this said, Listen, gambling is

2924
02:29:14,640 --> 02:29:16,600
Speaker 2: for the rich to have fun and lose money. And

2925
02:29:16,720 --> 02:29:26,400
Speaker 2: that's it, and that's the rule. So right, nineteen ninety

2926
02:29:26,480 --> 02:29:30,360
Speaker 2: seven was my biggest year. I write eight million, Live

2927
02:29:30,879 --> 02:29:35,119
Speaker 2: with people. From my first building, which was four thousand

2928
02:29:35,120 --> 02:29:38,000
Speaker 2: square feet, I flip it into a second building which

2929
02:29:38,040 --> 02:29:39,400
Speaker 2: is now eight thousand square feet.

2930
02:29:40,360 --> 02:29:43,119
Speaker 1: So perfect perfect sitting duck for the Internet to take

2931
02:29:43,160 --> 02:29:43,440
Speaker 1: you down.

2932
02:29:44,280 --> 02:29:47,440
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Dump all my money into the building state of

2933
02:29:47,480 --> 02:29:52,760
Speaker 2: the art, rocking and rolling. The Internet comes and wrecks

2934
02:29:52,840 --> 02:29:57,800
Speaker 2: me because now people can charge one dollar for what

2935
02:29:57,879 --> 02:30:03,720
Speaker 2: I'm charging one million, because now the Internet is the

2936
02:30:03,760 --> 02:30:08,960
Speaker 2: wild West. They're just lying about their record, They're just

2937
02:30:09,240 --> 02:30:13,080
Speaker 2: lying about that past performance, and I can't compete because

2938
02:30:13,080 --> 02:30:16,440
Speaker 2: they're doing national TV. I can't lie. People think I lie.

2939
02:30:16,720 --> 02:30:19,000
Speaker 2: I can't lie. What are you talking about? I'm in

2940
02:30:19,120 --> 02:30:22,960
Speaker 2: front of you every day now. Certain times when I

2941
02:30:23,040 --> 02:30:25,800
Speaker 2: get my teeth kicked in, I do not go on

2942
02:30:25,920 --> 02:30:28,600
Speaker 2: and go I got my teeth kicked in. That's about

2943
02:30:28,840 --> 02:30:31,400
Speaker 2: the only thing I do that could be looked at

2944
02:30:31,440 --> 02:30:34,920
Speaker 2: as manipulative. But I can't lie. I've never lied about

2945
02:30:34,959 --> 02:30:38,240
Speaker 2: a record. I don't lie about jack shit. What happens

2946
02:30:38,360 --> 02:30:44,640
Speaker 2: is I get a bill in the mail from eight

2947
02:30:44,760 --> 02:30:47,440
Speaker 2: and ten. How the nine hundred numbers worked is aight,

2948
02:30:47,560 --> 02:30:55,920
Speaker 2: and T pays you ninety days after the money comes in,

2949
02:30:56,840 --> 02:30:58,800
Speaker 2: and then they wait in another twenty days. So let's

2950
02:30:58,800 --> 02:31:00,960
Speaker 2: say I write it money in septem I do not

2951
02:31:01,080 --> 02:31:03,680
Speaker 2: get the September money October, November, December. I get middle

2952
02:31:03,720 --> 02:31:09,039
Speaker 2: of January, they hold twenty five percent for chargebacks twenty

2953
02:31:09,080 --> 02:31:14,360
Speaker 2: five percent, and then they take six percent for their fee.

2954
02:31:15,879 --> 02:31:20,959
Speaker 2: How about this chargebacks were seventy five percent? No shit,

2955
02:31:21,240 --> 02:31:24,040
Speaker 2: They did not have the ability to block payphons. So

2956
02:31:24,160 --> 02:31:26,240
Speaker 2: how about a payphone and a fucking bar. Everybody's called

2957
02:31:26,240 --> 02:31:30,040
Speaker 2: my nine hundred numbers. We don't know it. Eighte and

2958
02:31:30,080 --> 02:31:32,800
Speaker 2: t's paying me. They loost like forty million dollars in

2959
02:31:32,920 --> 02:31:35,000
Speaker 2: a day, and they almost went out of business at

2960
02:31:35,120 --> 02:31:37,960
Speaker 2: and T and I got a fucking monster bill. I

2961
02:31:38,080 --> 02:31:40,959
Speaker 2: owed them like gazillion dollars and I had to pay

2962
02:31:40,959 --> 02:31:45,760
Speaker 2: it because I was personal on that. So the Internet

2963
02:31:46,480 --> 02:31:49,880
Speaker 2: and that wiped me the fucking I was done. I

2964
02:31:49,920 --> 02:31:52,880
Speaker 2: had a shot to be a billionaire, one hundred million

2965
02:31:52,920 --> 02:31:55,600
Speaker 2: dollar guy with ten million a year coming in me,

2966
02:31:56,200 --> 02:31:59,039
Speaker 2: fucking living large, going to Atlantic City every fucking day,

2967
02:31:59,480 --> 02:32:03,200
Speaker 2: hanging with Donald Trump, hanging with Marlon Maples when he

2968
02:32:03,320 --> 02:32:05,400
Speaker 2: was fucking around on his first wife, fucking Marla. I

2969
02:32:05,520 --> 02:32:07,160
Speaker 2: was right there, tried to fuck us. She said, no,

2970
02:32:07,560 --> 02:32:09,160
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't actually say I want to fuck you,

2971
02:32:09,240 --> 02:32:11,959
Speaker 2: but I like was flirting, and she fucking looked at

2972
02:32:12,000 --> 02:32:14,400
Speaker 2: me like, come on, please, and went fucking Donald Donald

2973
02:32:14,600 --> 02:32:16,440
Speaker 2: was when Donald opened his casino. I was one of

2974
02:32:16,480 --> 02:32:18,680
Speaker 2: his top guys there. Got one hundred thousand dollars current

2975
02:32:18,720 --> 02:32:21,760
Speaker 2: line lost in thirty minutes, got another hundred thirty minutes.

2976
02:32:22,440 --> 02:32:26,720
Speaker 2: He had a executive room where he had the high roller,

2977
02:32:26,879 --> 02:32:30,280
Speaker 2: where he had the restaurant. This restaurant coach Arizade, and

2978
02:32:31,080 --> 02:32:33,400
Speaker 2: right from the high roll, you walked right into the

2979
02:32:33,440 --> 02:32:36,800
Speaker 2: fucking restaurant. And the way Donald made all his money

2980
02:32:36,879 --> 02:32:39,720
Speaker 2: at the casinos. His plan was to buy the casino

2981
02:32:39,920 --> 02:32:42,880
Speaker 2: and run it into the ground and bankrupt it and

2982
02:32:43,040 --> 02:32:44,800
Speaker 2: rebuy it back from the bank at ten cents on

2983
02:32:44,840 --> 02:32:46,920
Speaker 2: the dollar. Because he knew that he had them buy

2984
02:32:46,959 --> 02:32:49,000
Speaker 2: the balls. He did it like seven different times. Brilliant,

2985
02:32:49,280 --> 02:32:52,560
Speaker 2: brilliant fucking move. I mean ruthless. I mean people who

2986
02:32:52,640 --> 02:32:54,960
Speaker 2: invested with him got teeth kicked in. But he didn't

2987
02:32:55,480 --> 02:32:57,840
Speaker 2: because he knew the law. So he played the game.

2988
02:32:58,879 --> 02:33:03,520
Speaker 2: So he was first to give me what anyone that

2989
02:33:03,680 --> 02:33:07,600
Speaker 2: was a high roller, unlimited rooms. I was able to

2990
02:33:07,640 --> 02:33:10,120
Speaker 2: get seven eight rooms for all my friends. I was

2991
02:33:10,200 --> 02:33:12,959
Speaker 2: able to get free food, rooming board. I was drinking

2992
02:33:13,440 --> 02:33:20,039
Speaker 2: ten bottles of crystal a night, free limos, free plane free.

2993
02:33:21,040 --> 02:33:25,560
Speaker 2: So that's how I rolled. So the Internet and the

2994
02:33:25,680 --> 02:33:29,760
Speaker 2: nine hundreds destroyed me. Now I got a real bad

2995
02:33:29,920 --> 02:33:33,680
Speaker 2: name for myself because they did it like that. I

2996
02:33:33,800 --> 02:33:35,840
Speaker 2: kept screaming that I could win, and I could win,

2997
02:33:36,000 --> 02:33:39,360
Speaker 2: and I could win. I'm guaranteeing winners. So I said,

2998
02:33:41,000 --> 02:33:45,440
Speaker 2: let me do this. Let me get professional athletes to

2999
02:33:45,520 --> 02:33:49,840
Speaker 2: work for me, and they'll be the face of my companies,

3000
02:33:50,959 --> 02:33:54,720
Speaker 2: and then we'll have a crazy sales force selling hard

3001
02:33:54,840 --> 02:33:57,280
Speaker 2: under them. It's got to be a home run. So

3002
02:33:57,480 --> 02:34:03,480
Speaker 2: I get bum Phillips, I get Craig Morton, and I

3003
02:34:03,640 --> 02:34:06,720
Speaker 2: get Truck Knox. All three are work for me. I

3004
02:34:06,800 --> 02:34:10,720
Speaker 2: think at the Patra margin thirty five thousand, immediately laid

3005
02:34:10,720 --> 02:34:14,480
Speaker 2: it that immediately. Truck Knox immediately gives me the money

3006
02:34:14,520 --> 02:34:16,080
Speaker 2: back within a week because he said the NFL will

3007
02:34:16,160 --> 02:34:18,920
Speaker 2: not allow him ever into the Hall of Fame if

3008
02:34:18,959 --> 02:34:21,640
Speaker 2: I do this. Because this is like in the nineties,

3009
02:34:21,800 --> 02:34:25,920
Speaker 2: like this is not now. Now everyone has it, so

3010
02:34:26,640 --> 02:34:29,480
Speaker 2: they were useless. No one gave a fuck about Craig Mooreton.

3011
02:34:29,520 --> 02:34:31,160
Speaker 2: They didn't care that he took the Giants to the

3012
02:34:31,240 --> 02:34:33,840
Speaker 2: Zoop Bowl. He would played Giants Super Bowl, Bronco Super Bowl,

3013
02:34:34,080 --> 02:34:36,680
Speaker 2: you know, took two different teams heatdn't. They didn't give

3014
02:34:36,680 --> 02:34:40,640
Speaker 2: a fuck. They did not care about bum Phillips. I

3015
02:34:40,760 --> 02:34:43,160
Speaker 2: caught a bad break, which was a good break for

3016
02:34:43,200 --> 02:34:47,560
Speaker 2: their family, bad break for me. Wade Phillips becomes like

3017
02:34:47,760 --> 02:34:54,240
Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator of the Denver Broncos or the Buffalo Bills,

3018
02:34:54,240 --> 02:34:56,880
Speaker 2: one of the two at the time. So then I'm

3019
02:34:56,920 --> 02:34:59,760
Speaker 2: running half page adds. One of my companies was named

3020
02:34:59,840 --> 02:35:04,800
Speaker 2: in side information Sports. So it was a Monday night game,

3021
02:35:04,920 --> 02:35:08,320
Speaker 2: Colts are playing. I think the Bills. I think it

3022
02:35:08,440 --> 02:35:12,520
Speaker 2: was the Bills. Can I say it was the weekend

3023
02:35:12,560 --> 02:35:15,520
Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving? And I say, listen, I've got inside information

3024
02:35:15,640 --> 02:35:20,600
Speaker 2: on this game. Bumb Phillips spoke to Wade Phillips and

3025
02:35:21,200 --> 02:35:25,000
Speaker 2: gave me the game. It's a lock, it's fixed, bet

3026
02:35:25,040 --> 02:35:30,039
Speaker 2: everything you want on it. So and no one call

3027
02:35:30,800 --> 02:35:35,000
Speaker 2: spent like literally a quarter of a million dollars advertising

3028
02:35:35,120 --> 02:35:39,480
Speaker 2: the game one hundred and something to this bozo, does

3029
02:35:39,560 --> 02:35:42,240
Speaker 2: it work? The deal with Craig Morton said, I don't

3030
02:35:42,240 --> 02:35:44,400
Speaker 2: give a fuck about the NFL. They fucked me. They

3031
02:35:44,440 --> 02:35:48,000
Speaker 2: didn't give me health insurance. He really railroaded me. Fuck

3032
02:35:48,040 --> 02:35:50,800
Speaker 2: the NFL. He let me say anything. He didn't give

3033
02:35:50,840 --> 02:35:53,560
Speaker 2: a fuck. Hung out with him and his wife in

3034
02:35:53,680 --> 02:35:55,680
Speaker 2: the city. We went to plays. We were very close.

3035
02:35:56,480 --> 02:35:58,840
Speaker 2: Bomb Phillips, on the other hand, you know, he was

3036
02:35:58,959 --> 02:36:02,360
Speaker 2: pretty straight up. You know, Houston had a big reputation,

3037
02:36:02,840 --> 02:36:05,119
Speaker 2: very stand up guy. Great guy met him and his wife.

3038
02:36:05,360 --> 02:36:08,000
Speaker 2: They came here. We partied. David the fucking best. You

3039
02:36:08,200 --> 02:36:11,520
Speaker 2: cannot drink as much as bum Phillips, like like we were.

3040
02:36:12,240 --> 02:36:15,360
Speaker 2: He literally drank like six hundred dollars worth of liquor

3041
02:36:15,440 --> 02:36:18,160
Speaker 2: in front of us, like it was crazy. You know,

3042
02:36:18,200 --> 02:36:20,120
Speaker 2: I had like a big Christmas party. This guy did

3043
02:36:20,200 --> 02:36:22,240
Speaker 2: not stop drinking and you couldn't even tell it was drunk.

3044
02:36:22,360 --> 02:36:24,840
Speaker 2: Like he wore big cowboy, had boots the whole cake

3045
02:36:24,879 --> 02:36:27,680
Speaker 2: at The greatest guy of the deal with bum Phillips

3046
02:36:27,840 --> 02:36:31,560
Speaker 2: is his wife is excuse me. His daughter was a

3047
02:36:31,600 --> 02:36:35,920
Speaker 2: hotshot lawyer. So before I ran the AD, I would

3048
02:36:35,959 --> 02:36:39,560
Speaker 2: have to send her the AD, fax it to her.

3049
02:36:39,760 --> 02:36:42,280
Speaker 2: She would click it, send the facts back. I'd put

3050
02:36:42,320 --> 02:36:45,560
Speaker 2: it there as documentition. Go this one time, I said,

3051
02:36:45,600 --> 02:36:47,360
Speaker 2: fuck it, I'm getting killed here. I'm gonna take a shot.

3052
02:36:47,480 --> 02:36:50,760
Speaker 2: I did it. Okay, six o'clock in the morning.

3053
02:36:50,879 --> 02:36:53,520
Speaker 1: This is where you said this game's lockets fixed this. Yeah,

3054
02:36:53,600 --> 02:36:54,360
Speaker 1: put your house on it.

3055
02:36:54,480 --> 02:36:57,920
Speaker 2: Yes, six o'clock in the morning. Three weeks later, get

3056
02:36:57,959 --> 02:37:02,959
Speaker 2: a knock on the door. Hi, how you doing. You've

3057
02:37:02,959 --> 02:37:07,040
Speaker 2: been served? NFL served me with papers this fucking thick.

3058
02:37:07,360 --> 02:37:12,600
Speaker 2: It was like a foot fucking high suing me because

3059
02:37:13,520 --> 02:37:16,960
Speaker 2: not allowed to do that. Can't do that, you're you know,

3060
02:37:17,200 --> 02:37:19,280
Speaker 2: the integrity of the game is on. Now, how does

3061
02:37:19,360 --> 02:37:22,160
Speaker 2: this fucking kids do finer? You know, have a link?

3062
02:37:22,160 --> 02:37:25,240
Speaker 2: Would bump Phillips and if and I would have never

3063
02:37:25,400 --> 02:37:28,760
Speaker 2: said that. But now Wade Phillips was coaching a professional team.

3064
02:37:28,840 --> 02:37:32,600
Speaker 2: I think it was the Bills, and uh, they fucking

3065
02:37:32,680 --> 02:37:36,840
Speaker 2: sued me. So now, oh my god, I'm in real trouble.

3066
02:37:37,120 --> 02:37:39,400
Speaker 2: You know, I'm in really fucking trouble. So I get

3067
02:37:39,520 --> 02:37:42,920
Speaker 2: the number one lawyer at the time in New York,

3068
02:37:43,240 --> 02:37:46,960
Speaker 2: four hundred and thirty five dollars an hour. Every time

3069
02:37:47,080 --> 02:37:50,680
Speaker 2: I called him, he builled per minute. So if I

3070
02:37:50,879 --> 02:37:53,680
Speaker 2: just wanted to talk to him, and I kept talking

3071
02:37:53,680 --> 02:37:55,120
Speaker 2: to him because I didn't want to go to jail,

3072
02:37:55,120 --> 02:37:58,000
Speaker 2: and it looked like I was fucking dead talk to him.

3073
02:37:58,560 --> 02:38:00,560
Speaker 2: So we went in. We had this meeting and the

3074
02:38:00,680 --> 02:38:03,160
Speaker 2: meeting was this guy, the lawyer was supposed to talk

3075
02:38:03,160 --> 02:38:05,480
Speaker 2: to them. We were going to negotiate. Well, I just

3076
02:38:05,560 --> 02:38:07,520
Speaker 2: walked into the me and I said, listen. I literally

3077
02:38:07,560 --> 02:38:10,120
Speaker 2: pulled my hands down. I said, listen, I got a

3078
02:38:10,160 --> 02:38:12,080
Speaker 2: six inch dick. I say, I have a ten inch dick,

3079
02:38:12,160 --> 02:38:16,080
Speaker 2: but it's six. And I just told them everything, and

3080
02:38:16,240 --> 02:38:20,560
Speaker 2: I just pleaded my fucking case and they said, okay.

3081
02:38:21,600 --> 02:38:28,280
Speaker 2: They said, you're never allowed to hire NFL players ever again.

3082
02:38:31,320 --> 02:38:36,680
Speaker 2: We want retractions times three of what you spent on

3083
02:38:36,840 --> 02:38:40,960
Speaker 2: the ads. So they had a copy of like every ad.

3084
02:38:41,120 --> 02:38:43,400
Speaker 2: So let's say, I mean, I think the exact number

3085
02:38:43,520 --> 02:38:45,120
Speaker 2: was like one hundred and sixty grand I had to

3086
02:38:45,160 --> 02:38:50,920
Speaker 2: spend triple them in retractions every week running Inside Information.

3087
02:38:51,080 --> 02:38:54,760
Speaker 2: Sports has never spoken away, Phillips has never spoken about

3088
02:38:54,840 --> 02:38:58,560
Speaker 2: Phillips has nothing to do with this. And it fucking

3089
02:38:58,720 --> 02:39:02,920
Speaker 2: wiped me. So a combination of the Internet, combination of

3090
02:39:03,040 --> 02:39:07,840
Speaker 2: nine hundred numbers, combination of the lawsuit really fucking whacked me.

3091
02:39:08,560 --> 02:39:13,520
Speaker 2: So from nineteen ninety nine to two thousand and six,

3092
02:39:14,879 --> 02:39:19,360
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm a suicide. I did not pay

3093
02:39:19,440 --> 02:39:23,000
Speaker 2: my mortgage for seven years out of eight years I

3094
02:39:23,160 --> 02:39:26,480
Speaker 2: was in foreclosure. Of four years, I had no fucking money.

3095
02:39:27,200 --> 02:39:30,240
Speaker 2: I didn't have enough money to buy fucking gatory or

3096
02:39:30,640 --> 02:39:33,200
Speaker 2: bottled water. I used to take a fucking thing and

3097
02:39:33,320 --> 02:39:36,360
Speaker 2: put water on the tap, fill it up and give

3098
02:39:36,360 --> 02:39:40,920
Speaker 2: it and bring it to my kids. And meanwhile I'm

3099
02:39:40,959 --> 02:39:44,360
Speaker 2: walking around like everything's great, because part of the game,

3100
02:39:45,120 --> 02:39:48,280
Speaker 2: part of business, part of confidence is that you've got

3101
02:39:48,360 --> 02:39:51,600
Speaker 2: to walk around, Hey, everything's great, doing great, grinding it

3102
02:39:51,680 --> 02:39:53,680
Speaker 2: out great. And every day I'd be on the phone

3103
02:39:53,720 --> 02:39:55,960
Speaker 2: eighteen hours a day, calling people up, eighteen hours a day,

3104
02:39:56,040 --> 02:40:01,680
Speaker 2: just grinding, grinding, grinding, grinded. Now, thank god, I still

3105
02:40:01,800 --> 02:40:05,360
Speaker 2: use my system, and it grinded enough. When is out

3106
02:40:05,480 --> 02:40:10,000
Speaker 2: where I got hot? I got hot for two, three,

3107
02:40:10,280 --> 02:40:13,040
Speaker 2: four months in a row, and it would be enough

3108
02:40:14,200 --> 02:40:18,200
Speaker 2: to make a living, to stay alive. So I was in.

3109
02:40:18,520 --> 02:40:21,040
Speaker 2: I was didn't pay my mortgage, didn't pay nobody for

3110
02:40:21,120 --> 02:40:28,600
Speaker 2: four months. I borrowed like like three million from mafia

3111
02:40:28,680 --> 02:40:31,400
Speaker 2: on the street because I had a great reputation, saying

3112
02:40:31,520 --> 02:40:35,600
Speaker 2: like three points a week. That's nine thousand a week

3113
02:40:35,800 --> 02:40:40,320
Speaker 2: in like just fig nothing comes off the top. I

3114
02:40:40,440 --> 02:40:42,400
Speaker 2: borrowed like from two million dollars from every friend I

3115
02:40:42,440 --> 02:40:49,879
Speaker 2: haven't met my life and in nineteen ninety seven, which

3116
02:40:50,000 --> 02:40:51,680
Speaker 2: was my best year at me and Sandy, we made

3117
02:40:51,840 --> 02:40:54,760
Speaker 2: two point four million on the books. I didn't pay tax,

3118
02:40:56,920 --> 02:41:00,680
Speaker 2: and then I didn't pay taxes ninety eight and where

3119
02:41:00,680 --> 02:41:03,520
Speaker 2: I'm probably made like four hundred grand, four hundred brand.

3120
02:41:05,440 --> 02:41:08,080
Speaker 2: He was in a seven million dollar hole. Went to

3121
02:41:08,160 --> 02:41:12,800
Speaker 2: some tax attorneys and they said, Stu, you gotta go back.

3122
02:41:13,480 --> 02:41:16,080
Speaker 2: You gotta wipe everyone out. I can't wipe people out.

3123
02:41:16,160 --> 02:41:18,119
Speaker 2: These are all my friends, my best friends, my mother,

3124
02:41:18,320 --> 02:41:21,120
Speaker 2: my father, my grandmother. You know, I borrowed from everyone.

3125
02:41:21,160 --> 02:41:24,800
Speaker 2: I can't do it. And then I just somehow, like

3126
02:41:25,000 --> 02:41:28,600
Speaker 2: battle testing got fucking hot, and from two thousand and

3127
02:41:29,160 --> 02:41:37,199
Speaker 2: five to two thousand and eleven, I hit it every

3128
02:41:37,320 --> 02:41:42,680
Speaker 2: fucking penny because you got hot every fucking penny, grinded

3129
02:41:42,720 --> 02:41:48,640
Speaker 2: it out, beat the board twenty twelve, figured out the

3130
02:41:48,720 --> 02:41:53,160
Speaker 2: internet twenty and thirteen. I put free games on the

3131
02:41:53,200 --> 02:41:58,440
Speaker 2: internet twelve thirteen, fourteen, and I hit a solid sixty

3132
02:41:58,680 --> 02:42:03,680
Speaker 2: two percent in every fucking sport, in every fucking sport

3133
02:42:05,320 --> 02:42:13,680
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. Back two thousand and sixteen, Big Cat and

3134
02:42:13,959 --> 02:42:20,520
Speaker 2: PFT just start their ascension and they're doing funny things

3135
02:42:20,600 --> 02:42:25,560
Speaker 2: at barstool and they run an ad where they imitate me.

3136
02:42:26,240 --> 02:42:30,359
Speaker 2: Big Cat imitates one of my old commercials. PFT imitates

3137
02:42:30,400 --> 02:42:33,840
Speaker 2: one of my commercials, and they use my actual eight

3138
02:42:34,000 --> 02:42:38,240
Speaker 2: hundred number, my actual number. Wolves of my phone's light

3139
02:42:38,360 --> 02:42:41,320
Speaker 2: up and I write, like fourteen thousand dollars out of

3140
02:42:41,400 --> 02:42:43,480
Speaker 2: the blue. I have no idea. And then all of

3141
02:42:43,480 --> 02:42:46,040
Speaker 2: a sudden, my son's friends said, you Ron Barstool, You're

3142
02:42:46,080 --> 02:42:49,920
Speaker 2: on barstool. You're like, who the fuck is barstool? The

3143
02:42:50,000 --> 02:42:53,240
Speaker 2: weirdest thing. My neighbor who bought my one point eight

3144
02:42:53,240 --> 02:42:55,280
Speaker 2: eight is sidefield. They sold it to one person. They

3145
02:42:55,320 --> 02:42:57,880
Speaker 2: built a beautiful house. I held on to two point

3146
02:42:57,920 --> 02:43:00,840
Speaker 2: five eight eight is nineteen ninety three, like a probably

3147
02:43:00,879 --> 02:43:03,720
Speaker 2: a million three into the house in the pool, made

3148
02:43:03,879 --> 02:43:06,680
Speaker 2: forty three hundred screen forty three hundred square feet, minted

3149
02:43:06,720 --> 02:43:09,200
Speaker 2: it out, fixed everything up, state of the art whatever.

3150
02:43:11,920 --> 02:43:16,400
Speaker 2: He's a he's an orthodontist. Ria, Maria, you know barstool.

3151
02:43:16,440 --> 02:43:20,840
Speaker 2: Ria mother worked works for him. She worked for him

3152
02:43:20,840 --> 02:43:26,160
Speaker 2: for thirty years. And so Ria now says I can

3153
02:43:26,240 --> 02:43:28,040
Speaker 2: get a hold of stew So they bring me to

3154
02:43:28,120 --> 02:43:32,720
Speaker 2: the office. The first time that I met Deportnoy in

3155
02:43:33,440 --> 02:43:36,920
Speaker 2: the bottom of the old office, you know, in in

3156
02:43:37,080 --> 02:43:39,640
Speaker 2: New York. And he comes down and he's in a

3157
02:43:39,760 --> 02:43:42,360
Speaker 2: hoodie and he has a he has like a head

3158
02:43:42,440 --> 02:43:46,760
Speaker 2: on and unassuming. I had no fucking idea. He comes

3159
02:43:46,959 --> 02:43:49,360
Speaker 2: right up to me a stew he doing I'm a

3160
02:43:49,400 --> 02:43:52,520
Speaker 2: big fan, and I said thank you. I thought he

3161
02:43:52,600 --> 02:43:54,640
Speaker 2: was like the garbage man. I thought he was like, like,

3162
02:43:54,920 --> 02:43:57,160
Speaker 2: who the fuck you? I have no idea. I couldn't

3163
02:43:57,200 --> 02:43:59,480
Speaker 2: really figure. I couldn't tell because I wasn't really familiar.

3164
02:44:00,120 --> 02:44:04,280
Speaker 2: Go upstairs and I cut a promo with Big Cat

3165
02:44:04,640 --> 02:44:11,160
Speaker 2: and PFT. They had an idea Donald Trump would not

3166
02:44:11,600 --> 02:44:17,800
Speaker 2: pick the college basketball bracket for March Madness because baracka

3167
02:44:17,879 --> 02:44:19,960
Speaker 2: but Obama did it for eight years and he fucking

3168
02:44:20,000 --> 02:44:23,080
Speaker 2: hated him, like he fucking still hates him. He fucking

3169
02:44:23,160 --> 02:44:25,400
Speaker 2: hates him. He says, fuck this, I'm not doing it.

3170
02:44:26,000 --> 02:44:28,360
Speaker 2: So Hank, it's an idea. Puts a wig on me

3171
02:44:29,840 --> 02:44:32,720
Speaker 2: and dresses me up red tie, you know, exact suit,

3172
02:44:32,879 --> 02:44:36,240
Speaker 2: white shirt, and I scream and yet like I'm I'm

3173
02:44:36,320 --> 02:44:41,160
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and it blows the fuck up, blows up.

3174
02:44:41,480 --> 02:44:43,359
Speaker 2: They had me on for a couple of more skits.

3175
02:44:43,560 --> 02:44:46,800
Speaker 2: Blow up. Everyone fucking loves me. I go against Larry

3176
02:44:46,879 --> 02:44:50,320
Speaker 2: the Goldfish. I have this skit where I'm like, fuck

3177
02:44:50,440 --> 02:44:53,320
Speaker 2: this goldfish, You're not still finer, and I try to

3178
02:44:53,480 --> 02:44:55,880
Speaker 2: die in the tank to kill the goldfish. It's just

3179
02:44:55,920 --> 02:44:59,120
Speaker 2: when they started that big cat and pft, like fucking

3180
02:44:59,760 --> 02:45:03,000
Speaker 2: tag me, and then it blows up and then I

3181
02:45:03,080 --> 02:45:07,760
Speaker 2: go directly against the goldfish. When the Patriots played, uh

3182
02:45:07,840 --> 02:45:11,240
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons, and the fish took the Falcons, and

3183
02:45:11,320 --> 02:45:13,000
Speaker 2: I took the Patriots and that's when they were down

3184
02:45:13,040 --> 02:45:15,280
Speaker 2: twenty eighty three and they won. And then all of

3185
02:45:15,320 --> 02:45:20,080
Speaker 2: a sudden, I got a call that July and Dave says,

3186
02:45:20,160 --> 02:45:25,760
Speaker 2: Stu me, my father and my uncle used to watch

3187
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Speaker 2: you in the nineties. We love you. We love your

3188
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3189
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Speaker 2: to rebranded Barstools Sports Advisors. And then that's how I

3190
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Speaker 2: ascended with BARSCEOL And that's how you know, the rest

3191
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Speaker 2: is history. That's how I got there.

3192
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Speaker 1: God damn, yeah, what is the story?

3193
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Speaker 3: Fucking incredible?

3194
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Speaker 1: Can I get a t O Can I get a timehouse?

3195
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3196
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

3197
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3218
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Speaker 3: I believe the boys. We're going to deliver it to

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3220
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Speaker 1: You have to post went out last week.

3225
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Speaker 3: Okay, so more solid. So it goes to the post

3226
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Speaker 3: from last week because I did not remember they had

3227
02:47:16,120 --> 02:47:18,240
Speaker 3: to predict the games where it is predict the games. Oh,

3228
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Speaker 3: it's okay, that's not happened. Hey, download Rumble. Subscribed to

3229
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3230
02:47:25,560 --> 02:47:28,160
Speaker 3: It was unassuming seeing Dave so just had no idea

3231
02:47:28,200 --> 02:47:28,640
Speaker 3: who he was.

3232
02:47:29,200 --> 02:47:32,119
Speaker 2: He left, and then and then someone that I took

3233
02:47:32,160 --> 02:47:33,520
Speaker 2: with me there to go up says, they go, God

3234
02:47:33,520 --> 02:47:35,680
Speaker 2: bless you. They said, do you realize that was fucking day?

3235
02:47:35,720 --> 02:47:39,200
Speaker 2: Wouldn't I? Like, oh my god, No, I had no idea.

3236
02:47:39,240 --> 02:47:42,760
Speaker 2: What a fucking the biggest loser ever. I think he

3237
02:47:42,840 --> 02:47:44,560
Speaker 2: held it against me for the rest of his life,

3238
02:47:44,959 --> 02:47:46,840
Speaker 2: you know, not that he gets. He doesn't really care. Yeah,

3239
02:47:47,000 --> 02:47:49,920
Speaker 2: you know, he's not like that. But I was embarrassed.

3240
02:47:49,920 --> 02:47:53,280
Speaker 2: I would have definitely thought about it by a totally

3241
02:47:53,320 --> 02:47:55,560
Speaker 2: different way. I would have pitched myself. I would have said,

3242
02:47:55,600 --> 02:47:57,720
Speaker 2: can we do dinner? You know something, you know whatever,

3243
02:47:57,879 --> 02:48:01,520
Speaker 2: But that was it because like they you like, I'm

3244
02:48:01,560 --> 02:48:02,320
Speaker 2: your biggest fan.

3245
02:48:02,400 --> 02:48:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's crazy.

3246
02:48:03,879 --> 02:48:04,960
Speaker 3: Him and his dadd used to watch you.

3247
02:48:05,360 --> 02:48:06,320
Speaker 2: Him his dad and his uncle.

3248
02:48:06,560 --> 02:48:07,080
Speaker 3: That's wild.

3249
02:48:07,640 --> 02:48:11,000
Speaker 2: One of the reasons that Barstool's sports exists is because

3250
02:48:11,080 --> 02:48:14,280
Speaker 2: of me. Because first of all, he had his father

3251
02:48:14,400 --> 02:48:17,520
Speaker 2: was a lawyer, so he had what we would call

3252
02:48:17,560 --> 02:48:21,480
Speaker 2: he yidisha cup. He could speak like the wind. Neighbors

3253
02:48:21,520 --> 02:48:23,760
Speaker 2: thought that through his father in reality, and he had

3254
02:48:24,040 --> 02:48:26,120
Speaker 2: the biggest set of wolves in the fucking world, Like

3255
02:48:26,240 --> 02:48:27,680
Speaker 2: no one has a bigger set of wolves in him.

3256
02:48:28,080 --> 02:48:30,720
Speaker 2: And he's and he's brilliant. Like people think he's just

3257
02:48:30,840 --> 02:48:33,560
Speaker 2: some fucking Dodo. He's the smartest fucking guy in the

3258
02:48:33,640 --> 02:48:36,240
Speaker 2: room all the time. Every time, like you know, he's

3259
02:48:36,280 --> 02:48:39,160
Speaker 2: painted in the corner is like some misogynistic fucking you

3260
02:48:39,240 --> 02:48:42,360
Speaker 2: know wha That is so not true. He goes he

3261
02:48:42,480 --> 02:48:46,560
Speaker 2: can go against any CEO in the world, any lawyer,

3262
02:48:46,720 --> 02:48:49,920
Speaker 2: and he holds his own. He knows the law.

3263
02:48:50,320 --> 02:48:52,840
Speaker 3: He knows the law, and he knows how to like

3264
02:48:53,640 --> 02:48:56,080
Speaker 3: how to catch you when you're saying certain things and

3265
02:48:56,200 --> 02:48:57,600
Speaker 3: you're like gets one around you.

3266
02:48:57,720 --> 02:48:58,119
Speaker 2: You're dead.

3267
02:48:58,200 --> 02:49:00,240
Speaker 3: He just figures it out. He's the greenly smart doesn't

3268
02:49:00,240 --> 02:49:00,800
Speaker 3: he doesn't even have.

3269
02:49:00,840 --> 02:49:03,680
Speaker 2: Credit, No, not at all. He's the greatest counter puncher ever,

3270
02:49:04,120 --> 02:49:08,400
Speaker 2: greatest counter yeah, counterpuncher, yeah, ye ever ever, ever, he

3271
02:49:08,480 --> 02:49:10,200
Speaker 2: doesn't start the fight, he'll end the fight.

3272
02:49:10,360 --> 02:49:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. When you're when you're talking about meeting all

3273
02:49:13,959 --> 02:49:15,680
Speaker 3: these guys, all these made dudes who are like in

3274
02:49:15,760 --> 02:49:17,720
Speaker 3: the mafia and all that. What ended up happened to

3275
02:49:17,800 --> 02:49:19,880
Speaker 3: these cats because he had to pay twenty five thousand

3276
02:49:19,920 --> 02:49:20,360
Speaker 3: dollars for this.

3277
02:49:20,920 --> 02:49:23,600
Speaker 1: That was that was the question. A you're still paying it.

3278
02:49:24,040 --> 02:49:27,200
Speaker 2: So what happened was this? When I told you that

3279
02:49:27,520 --> 02:49:29,640
Speaker 2: the guy came to work for me, he became my

3280
02:49:29,720 --> 02:49:34,439
Speaker 2: best salesman, he ran the place the main guy died.

3281
02:49:36,040 --> 02:49:38,440
Speaker 3: And that was it, really and that was fucking it.

3282
02:49:38,600 --> 02:49:39,760
Speaker 3: How many years did you have to pay?

3283
02:49:42,040 --> 02:49:47,120
Speaker 2: A decade? Yeah, yeah, a decade basically ball protection. And

3284
02:49:47,400 --> 02:49:50,879
Speaker 2: what would happen was I was one of the worst

3285
02:49:50,920 --> 02:49:53,080
Speaker 2: gamblers you ever started in your life, Like I would

3286
02:49:53,160 --> 02:49:55,720
Speaker 2: like the minute, like when I went on Pardon My

3287
02:49:55,879 --> 02:49:58,320
Speaker 2: take the first time with Big Cat the Ft and Hank,

3288
02:49:59,000 --> 02:50:01,800
Speaker 2: you know, they would degenerate gambles. They were fucking firing,

3289
02:50:01,879 --> 02:50:04,000
Speaker 2: they were betting everything they owned. They were just going

3290
02:50:04,680 --> 02:50:06,880
Speaker 2: and I said, listen, guys, the only way to make

3291
02:50:06,920 --> 02:50:09,600
Speaker 2: money is to bet one game a week. They were like,

3292
02:50:09,640 --> 02:50:11,520
Speaker 2: one game a week, we bet ten games a day.

3293
02:50:11,879 --> 02:50:13,400
Speaker 2: I go, oh, there's no way for you to ever

3294
02:50:13,480 --> 02:50:16,440
Speaker 2: make money. You know, one game a week is the way.

3295
02:50:16,560 --> 02:50:21,080
Speaker 2: So I know that from experience, because I would lock

3296
02:50:21,240 --> 02:50:23,600
Speaker 2: into a week and I'd have one best bet Saturday,

3297
02:50:24,200 --> 02:50:28,280
Speaker 2: one best bet Sunday, and that should be it. But

3298
02:50:28,720 --> 02:50:32,000
Speaker 2: the minute I called in that one bet, I would

3299
02:50:32,040 --> 02:50:34,240
Speaker 2: be a I would be like, all right, give me this,

3300
02:50:34,440 --> 02:50:35,920
Speaker 2: give me this, give me this. All of a sudden,

3301
02:50:36,080 --> 02:50:39,640
Speaker 2: thirty bets similar to what they do and get murdered.

3302
02:50:39,720 --> 02:50:42,600
Speaker 2: My number one play would always win. Everything else would lose.

3303
02:50:43,080 --> 02:50:45,800
Speaker 2: You come out even no, I just get I get killed.

3304
02:50:45,920 --> 02:50:47,800
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I get killed even worse.

3305
02:50:48,000 --> 02:50:49,040
Speaker 1: So then I get shocked in.

3306
02:50:49,200 --> 02:50:51,280
Speaker 2: Then I get shut off from bookmakers, and I'd got

3307
02:50:51,400 --> 02:50:55,240
Speaker 2: another bookmaker, and I just kept running debts up, major debts,

3308
02:50:55,640 --> 02:50:57,760
Speaker 2: And then what would happen is we'd have to go

3309
02:50:57,840 --> 02:51:00,879
Speaker 2: to a sit down and they don't know with anyone.

3310
02:51:01,320 --> 02:51:04,840
Speaker 2: So I'd walk in and they'd be like, don't fucking

3311
02:51:04,879 --> 02:51:08,680
Speaker 2: tell me he's with you because then they're not allowed

3312
02:51:08,680 --> 02:51:11,879
Speaker 2: to take my action. They literally, so I walked away

3313
02:51:11,920 --> 02:51:16,480
Speaker 2: from a good million handbocks of losing that you goes,

3314
02:51:16,520 --> 02:51:17,160
Speaker 2: I was working.

3315
02:51:18,640 --> 02:51:24,560
Speaker 1: Which people, my people, here's the third round, like the

3316
02:51:24,879 --> 02:51:26,160
Speaker 1: final round, the final month guy.

3317
02:51:28,080 --> 02:51:32,880
Speaker 4: Question number two, can't lie? Said the game was fixed?

3318
02:51:33,000 --> 02:51:34,680
Speaker 4: Book it Buffalo bills right?

3319
02:51:36,560 --> 02:51:38,720
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not served.

3320
02:51:38,800 --> 02:51:40,840
Speaker 1: But you never necessarily answered the question if you had

3321
02:51:40,879 --> 02:51:41,800
Speaker 1: the inside.

3322
02:51:41,520 --> 02:51:44,120
Speaker 2: If you had an inside track, they knew I did it.

3323
02:51:44,200 --> 02:51:47,200
Speaker 1: So you essentially lied about having the conversation with bum Phillips.

3324
02:51:47,800 --> 02:51:49,080
Speaker 3: But you said earlier you don't lie at all.

3325
02:51:50,360 --> 02:51:53,120
Speaker 8: Oh no, I definitely lied that were there NDAs involved

3326
02:51:53,160 --> 02:51:56,720
Speaker 8: with this legal meaning you had to sign NDAs if

3327
02:51:56,760 --> 02:51:58,320
Speaker 8: it were to ever be brought up again, say a

3328
02:51:58,440 --> 02:52:00,840
Speaker 8: bus with the boys, you have one hundred percent.

3329
02:52:00,920 --> 02:52:02,400
Speaker 1: You have to say no, I never talked to bump

3330
02:52:02,400 --> 02:52:03,080
Speaker 1: Phillips one.

3331
02:52:03,080 --> 02:52:04,320
Speaker 2: Hundred percent because you're no.

3332
02:52:04,440 --> 02:52:04,480
Speaker 6: No.

3333
02:52:04,640 --> 02:52:07,000
Speaker 2: Well, they didn't ask that. They just said I'm never

3334
02:52:07,280 --> 02:52:12,200
Speaker 2: allowed to have NFL players work for me and use

3335
02:52:12,320 --> 02:52:14,640
Speaker 2: them as the face of my company.

3336
02:52:14,840 --> 02:52:21,160
Speaker 1: How many NFL players would bet with you? You see?

3337
02:52:21,360 --> 02:52:23,280
Speaker 2: You see then they would go on to assume names

3338
02:52:23,280 --> 02:52:26,360
Speaker 2: because you would go to jail. So I don't actually know.

3339
02:52:26,640 --> 02:52:28,120
Speaker 1: But that you were aware of. You don't have to

3340
02:52:28,160 --> 02:52:29,520
Speaker 1: say names, but a lot.

3341
02:52:29,400 --> 02:52:33,320
Speaker 2: Of hockey players like Ken Daniko. He called me out

3342
02:52:33,360 --> 02:52:36,039
Speaker 2: of the blue. He called me the year they won

3343
02:52:36,120 --> 02:52:40,000
Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup closer from the Pittsburgh Penman locker room, like,

3344
02:52:40,080 --> 02:52:42,040
Speaker 2: how the fuck you're not fucking Candanico? What are you

3345
02:52:42,160 --> 02:52:44,640
Speaker 2: talking about? I said, you're gonna know you're playing in

3346
02:52:44,680 --> 02:52:46,320
Speaker 2: two hours. He goes, yeah, I know, I'm calling from

3347
02:52:46,360 --> 02:52:49,040
Speaker 2: the locker room. Went on an insane role with the guy,

3348
02:52:49,440 --> 02:52:53,760
Speaker 2: one of my four million bucks, major fucking role, major role.

3349
02:52:53,920 --> 02:52:57,320
Speaker 1: Betting on games with him, like him, involved, like him, him,

3350
02:52:57,360 --> 02:52:58,560
Speaker 1: playing the game, like his team.

3351
02:52:59,040 --> 02:53:01,600
Speaker 2: No, never hockey, football, okay, got he would be.

3352
02:53:01,640 --> 02:53:03,200
Speaker 3: He would pay you to get the picks and then

3353
02:53:03,240 --> 02:53:03,840
Speaker 3: he would go back.

3354
02:53:03,959 --> 02:53:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, never hockey.

3355
02:53:05,280 --> 02:53:07,880
Speaker 2: We never spoke about hockey, but he gave me and

3356
02:53:07,920 --> 02:53:10,760
Speaker 2: my brother tickets. We went to every home game that year.

3357
02:53:11,280 --> 02:53:13,480
Speaker 2: I sat next to his wife and his sister for

3358
02:53:13,560 --> 02:53:16,240
Speaker 2: the championship game when they clinched, they were they won

3359
02:53:16,320 --> 02:53:20,000
Speaker 2: the They won two games in Detroit and then game

3360
02:53:20,120 --> 02:53:23,040
Speaker 2: three and four, the Stanley Cup was at home, and

3361
02:53:23,160 --> 02:53:25,879
Speaker 2: we sat next to his wife and his uh sister.

3362
02:53:26,000 --> 02:53:27,560
Speaker 2: We weren't allowed to tell who we were. Was the

3363
02:53:27,920 --> 02:53:30,240
Speaker 2: most crazy thing ever hanging out with that, he goes,

3364
02:53:30,600 --> 02:53:35,400
Speaker 2: I didn't say boom y army yager in the nineties.

3365
02:53:36,959 --> 02:53:39,400
Speaker 2: It was a big bet and it loost like a

3366
02:53:39,480 --> 02:53:40,119
Speaker 2: million bucks?

3367
02:53:40,360 --> 02:53:41,360
Speaker 1: Or were he what did he do?

3368
02:53:43,440 --> 02:53:45,520
Speaker 2: He was one of the greatest players that literally one

3369
02:53:45,520 --> 02:53:46,480
Speaker 2: of the greatest hockey players.

3370
02:53:46,520 --> 02:53:47,480
Speaker 1: Not as much of a hockey.

3371
02:53:48,120 --> 02:53:54,920
Speaker 2: Hockey came wearing, all right, Hockey came to me a lot.

3372
02:53:54,959 --> 02:53:56,840
Speaker 2: There was a lot of hockey players hockeys.

3373
02:53:56,920 --> 02:53:59,160
Speaker 3: Hockey players are djens, for sure.

3374
02:53:59,080 --> 02:54:03,320
Speaker 4: Right, But NFL players come to you not that literally

3375
02:54:03,879 --> 02:54:07,600
Speaker 4: none literally, not one that I could drop a name.

3376
02:54:08,040 --> 02:54:10,000
Speaker 2: Basketball, not one that I could drop it.

3377
02:54:10,160 --> 02:54:11,160
Speaker 1: How about Fosketball?

3378
02:54:11,240 --> 02:54:12,600
Speaker 2: Not one that I could drop a name.

3379
02:54:12,959 --> 02:54:15,960
Speaker 1: Not that yet, I mean if you literally have none? No,

3380
02:54:16,400 --> 02:54:18,360
Speaker 1: what about referees?

3381
02:54:19,800 --> 02:54:23,120
Speaker 2: Never never like that. There was never anything like that.

3382
02:54:23,400 --> 02:54:25,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was never some shoeless Joe Jackson type stuff

3383
02:54:25,640 --> 02:54:25,920
Speaker 3: going on.

3384
02:54:26,080 --> 02:54:26,520
Speaker 1: Now Never.

3385
02:54:26,720 --> 02:54:29,160
Speaker 2: I was never like involved with that. I don't think.

3386
02:54:29,200 --> 02:54:32,160
Speaker 2: I don't think it actually even existed that I know of, Like,

3387
02:54:32,320 --> 02:54:35,360
Speaker 2: you know, like I was not like like I never

3388
02:54:35,440 --> 02:54:37,960
Speaker 2: knew about it. Like there was an Arizona college basketball

3389
02:54:38,000 --> 02:54:41,400
Speaker 2: betting scandal that one of my cousins best friends was

3390
02:54:41,520 --> 02:54:44,240
Speaker 2: there in Arizona and his roommate was doing the fixing,

3391
02:54:44,560 --> 02:54:47,280
Speaker 2: and they called me and told me this. But two

3392
02:54:47,320 --> 02:54:49,920
Speaker 2: of the three games they gave me lost, So I

3393
02:54:50,000 --> 02:54:52,680
Speaker 2: was like, you're a fraud. Eight months later it all

3394
02:54:52,760 --> 02:54:55,039
Speaker 2: came out he was fucking telling the truth. They threw

3395
02:54:55,120 --> 02:54:56,920
Speaker 2: the game. But I, you know, like in other words,

3396
02:54:56,920 --> 02:55:00,640
Speaker 2: I never trusted it. Like everybody wanted to be a handicapper.

3397
02:55:00,920 --> 02:55:03,879
Speaker 2: Everybody wanted to have an opinion, and they would call

3398
02:55:03,959 --> 02:55:06,160
Speaker 2: me and they wanted to work with me picking games.

3399
02:55:06,200 --> 02:55:08,240
Speaker 2: But I knew they had no idea. You know, they

3400
02:55:08,280 --> 02:55:10,320
Speaker 2: were clueless. There's you know, they didn't know what the

3401
02:55:10,360 --> 02:55:12,840
Speaker 2: fuck they were doing. You know, they didn't know what

3402
02:55:12,920 --> 02:55:16,440
Speaker 2: they were doing. Like I ran a couple like I

3403
02:55:16,560 --> 02:55:20,400
Speaker 2: ran in Let me think, how is in the eighties?

3404
02:55:20,560 --> 02:55:25,320
Speaker 2: Probably I was. I ran double strip ads in the

3405
02:55:25,400 --> 02:55:29,000
Speaker 2: New York Daily News and the Boston Herald, and I

3406
02:55:29,120 --> 02:55:31,800
Speaker 2: spent like twenty five a week, twelve five each paper.

3407
02:55:32,240 --> 02:55:34,640
Speaker 2: So you'd open up the paper and they would have

3408
02:55:34,920 --> 02:55:38,160
Speaker 2: all the analysis of the sports games and I would

3409
02:55:38,240 --> 02:55:40,959
Speaker 2: run a strip ad at the bottom, and that would

3410
02:55:41,000 --> 02:55:46,440
Speaker 2: fucking do amazing for me, absolutely amazing. And Rick Riley

3411
02:55:46,680 --> 02:55:53,720
Speaker 2: of Sports Illustrator came to came to me and he

3412
02:55:53,879 --> 02:55:58,440
Speaker 2: wrote about me, and he'd fucking annihilated me. Oh my god,

3413
02:55:58,600 --> 02:56:00,560
Speaker 2: Like that was the last time I've spoke to like,

3414
02:56:00,640 --> 02:56:03,360
Speaker 2: you know when you hear these stories, I said, one thing,

3415
02:56:03,480 --> 02:56:06,040
Speaker 2: we ated a Mottos and Amityvillet great meal was me,

3416
02:56:06,320 --> 02:56:10,440
Speaker 2: him and Sandy. And then when it came out, the

3417
02:56:10,879 --> 02:56:17,160
Speaker 2: appsolutely destroyed me. What happened was one of their customer.

3418
02:56:17,600 --> 02:56:21,400
Speaker 2: They paid me as a customer and I hit like

3419
02:56:21,480 --> 02:56:23,800
Speaker 2: forty percent. I was cold. They caught me for like

3420
02:56:23,840 --> 02:56:26,280
Speaker 2: a three of me. I got fucking terrible and they

3421
02:56:26,440 --> 02:56:31,440
Speaker 2: destroyed me in the Sports Illustrated destroyed me. Then also

3422
02:56:31,640 --> 02:56:35,680
Speaker 2: I got fined by the Daily News ten thousand Department

3423
02:56:35,760 --> 02:56:40,000
Speaker 2: of Consumer Affairs. I think it was eighty late eighties,

3424
02:56:40,400 --> 02:56:43,480
Speaker 2: maybe ninety. They hit me with a fine because I

3425
02:56:43,600 --> 02:56:47,199
Speaker 2: was too aggressive with my ads. The person who wrote

3426
02:56:47,240 --> 02:56:51,200
Speaker 2: the ads to me. First week, I went seven, and

3427
02:56:52,360 --> 02:56:55,080
Speaker 2: so I posted last week seven and zero. Now my

3428
02:56:55,200 --> 02:57:00,520
Speaker 2: advertising agent next week put two weeks ago seven. I

3429
02:57:00,560 --> 02:57:04,400
Speaker 2: didn't go seven or no that week, but it was posted,

3430
02:57:05,200 --> 02:57:07,400
Speaker 2: so they immediately took the fucking ad down and finally

3431
02:57:07,520 --> 02:57:11,640
Speaker 2: like ten thousand dollars. So people to this day, like

3432
02:57:11,800 --> 02:57:14,680
Speaker 2: when they write bad about me, they say, STU, fine,

3433
02:57:14,680 --> 02:57:16,440
Speaker 2: it was fine ten thousand dollars in the department because

3434
02:57:16,879 --> 02:57:18,880
Speaker 2: it was like nineteen ninety what do we We're in

3435
02:57:19,000 --> 02:57:21,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four right now. But you know, so there

3436
02:57:21,320 --> 02:57:25,600
Speaker 2: was certain things that I ran the company and certain

3437
02:57:25,640 --> 02:57:30,840
Speaker 2: things that like salesmen, uh, salesman said that you know,

3438
02:57:30,920 --> 02:57:33,280
Speaker 2: I would say, keep it clean, walk the line, but

3439
02:57:33,360 --> 02:57:35,640
Speaker 2: they went over the line. So in reality, when you

3440
02:57:35,720 --> 02:57:38,879
Speaker 2: say did I lie? Were there things I did wrong?

3441
02:57:39,000 --> 02:57:43,560
Speaker 2: I'm responsible? So yes, I didn't do things wrong, certain

3442
02:57:43,600 --> 02:57:46,760
Speaker 2: things not premeditated, not on a daily basis, but it

3443
02:57:46,840 --> 02:57:47,640
Speaker 2: was fucking done.

3444
02:57:48,200 --> 02:57:50,960
Speaker 4: The and you almost just understood that the line was

3445
02:57:50,959 --> 02:57:52,560
Speaker 4: always going to be crossing in some way, and you

3446
02:57:52,840 --> 02:57:54,160
Speaker 4: more g s be like, I don't want to hear

3447
02:57:54,200 --> 02:57:54,440
Speaker 4: about it.

3448
02:57:54,720 --> 02:57:56,880
Speaker 2: Correct, you know what I'm saying, You know, keep it

3449
02:57:56,879 --> 02:57:59,000
Speaker 2: as clean as possible, but you know, whatever, you do

3450
02:57:59,080 --> 02:58:03,680
Speaker 2: what you gotta do. The when Rick Riley wrote about me,

3451
02:58:04,760 --> 02:58:08,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I caught the worst break fucking possible. So

3452
02:58:08,640 --> 02:58:11,039
Speaker 2: let's say it was in Sports Illustrate A big deal

3453
02:58:11,879 --> 02:58:15,160
Speaker 2: the cover of that issue that I was in was

3454
02:58:15,160 --> 02:58:19,520
Speaker 2: the one that Magic Johnson got aides, So it was

3455
02:58:19,640 --> 02:58:23,480
Speaker 2: their biggest yeah fucking issue ever.

3456
02:58:25,520 --> 02:58:28,920
Speaker 3: So like everybody read it, everybody fucking read it.

3457
02:58:29,720 --> 02:58:30,680
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that now?

3458
02:58:30,720 --> 02:58:32,800
Speaker 3: And knowing like it's you know, people have those like

3459
02:58:32,920 --> 02:58:34,720
Speaker 3: shots and you look at that as part of like

3460
02:58:34,760 --> 02:58:35,879
Speaker 3: your reputation.

3461
02:58:36,200 --> 02:58:40,720
Speaker 2: You know something. I'm in a whoores business. I'm in

3462
02:58:40,800 --> 02:58:43,520
Speaker 2: a ninety nine percent of the people that are in

3463
02:58:43,640 --> 02:58:47,039
Speaker 2: my business of scumbag's, low lives and thieves. From day one,

3464
02:58:47,160 --> 02:58:50,400
Speaker 2: they lie. From day one, they double saw I games,

3465
02:58:50,400 --> 02:58:53,400
Speaker 2: they get half one side half another. From day one,

3466
02:58:53,720 --> 02:58:58,520
Speaker 2: they book make They say, I know the book maker.

3467
02:58:59,040 --> 02:59:01,760
Speaker 2: I'm good like. They'll say, can you bet one hundred

3468
02:59:01,760 --> 02:59:03,640
Speaker 2: thousand on this game? No, I can only be ten thousand.

3469
02:59:04,440 --> 02:59:08,200
Speaker 2: They'll give a number, which is them sitting right next

3470
02:59:08,200 --> 02:59:13,360
Speaker 2: to themselves, the book maker. They change their voice, they

3471
02:59:13,440 --> 02:59:14,879
Speaker 2: pick up the phone. They go, yeah, what the fuck

3472
02:59:14,920 --> 02:59:19,080
Speaker 2: you want? Who fuck sent you? Fuck you? Yeah, yeah,

3473
02:59:19,720 --> 02:59:21,200
Speaker 2: you want to bet one hundred thousand games? Send me

3474
02:59:21,200 --> 02:59:23,000
Speaker 2: a quarter of a million? Yeah you got you got

3475
02:59:23,000 --> 02:59:24,800
Speaker 2: a quote a million credit. You can bet up to

3476
02:59:24,800 --> 02:59:27,280
Speaker 2: a quarter of a million. They send them money and

3477
02:59:27,360 --> 02:59:30,760
Speaker 2: then they either lose, they give them a game for

3478
02:59:30,840 --> 02:59:34,240
Speaker 2: the whole amount, and if they win the game, the

3479
02:59:34,320 --> 02:59:36,640
Speaker 2: phone on it gets disconnected, and so does this guy's

3480
02:59:36,640 --> 02:59:39,240
Speaker 2: phonema get disconnected. If they lose the game, it's a

3481
02:59:39,440 --> 02:59:43,440
Speaker 2: wash and they just stole them on. So I've never

3482
02:59:43,520 --> 02:59:44,120
Speaker 2: done any of that.

3483
02:59:44,760 --> 02:59:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't do that.

3484
02:59:47,160 --> 02:59:49,800
Speaker 2: So compare it to ninety nine point nine percent of

3485
02:59:49,840 --> 02:59:52,760
Speaker 2: people in my industry, even when I was rolling in

3486
02:59:52,840 --> 02:59:55,440
Speaker 2: the eighties and nineties. Like, let's say I've been squeaky,

3487
02:59:55,760 --> 03:00:05,480
Speaker 2: squeaky clean since Squeaky Clean two thousand and one. Squeaky

3488
03:00:06,040 --> 03:00:08,400
Speaker 2: you know, there is never because it's because the only

3489
03:00:08,440 --> 03:00:11,119
Speaker 2: person you're dealing with is either me or my son Alex.

3490
03:00:11,160 --> 03:00:14,160
Speaker 2: That's it. That's literally, it's the only people you'll ever

3491
03:00:14,200 --> 03:00:18,680
Speaker 2: speak to. And uh, I never did that.

3492
03:00:19,400 --> 03:00:21,920
Speaker 4: So basically like you're in a scumbag game, but you're

3493
03:00:21,959 --> 03:00:24,279
Speaker 4: as you try to be as as good as possible

3494
03:00:24,320 --> 03:00:25,920
Speaker 4: in this correct exactly exactly.

3495
03:00:25,959 --> 03:00:26,920
Speaker 1: Oh he's a good scumbag.

3496
03:00:27,520 --> 03:00:31,560
Speaker 2: But when I'm talking the eighties and night right now, now,

3497
03:00:31,600 --> 03:00:34,600
Speaker 2: you go to jail, right, you go to jail. You

3498
03:00:34,720 --> 03:00:35,240
Speaker 2: can't do that.

3499
03:00:35,360 --> 03:00:37,760
Speaker 4: You know, there's no you've had the ability to like

3500
03:00:37,879 --> 03:00:42,520
Speaker 4: hustle and sell and you know, manipulate the brain into

3501
03:00:42,600 --> 03:00:44,840
Speaker 4: being able to sell, like get your product across?

3502
03:00:45,040 --> 03:00:45,880
Speaker 1: Would me trust me?

3503
03:00:46,480 --> 03:00:48,880
Speaker 2: Like I like? In other words, two years ago on

3504
03:00:48,959 --> 03:00:52,600
Speaker 2: Barstool Sports devices, you know had I won the overall

3505
03:00:52,640 --> 03:00:54,800
Speaker 2: record and I was fifteen wins, four losses, two ties

3506
03:00:54,879 --> 03:00:59,520
Speaker 2: on my mortilocks. People set me money every week that

3507
03:00:59,640 --> 03:01:01,360
Speaker 2: I know ever heard of that. I don't even know

3508
03:01:01,440 --> 03:01:03,360
Speaker 2: who they are saying, Stu, I love you. I bet

3509
03:01:03,400 --> 03:01:05,520
Speaker 2: your mortal wiz, Stu I want. I went in like

3510
03:01:05,640 --> 03:01:08,560
Speaker 2: nine in a row, like and I was yelling about

3511
03:01:08,600 --> 03:01:12,080
Speaker 2: it like so this year I was nine nine and

3512
03:01:12,160 --> 03:01:14,400
Speaker 2: one on the Mortal Wocks, I mean not horrific, but

3513
03:01:15,000 --> 03:01:18,960
Speaker 2: like on the overall games, I was fucking terrible, you know,

3514
03:01:19,080 --> 03:01:23,560
Speaker 2: like forty terrible because uh, it just didn't work for me,

3515
03:01:23,879 --> 03:01:26,920
Speaker 2: like like I told, like on Barcelo Sports Advices, the

3516
03:01:27,000 --> 03:01:33,120
Speaker 2: public one sucker money one teams that had injuries. I

3517
03:01:33,520 --> 03:01:36,760
Speaker 2: like the teams with the injuries. I like the inferior team.

3518
03:01:37,160 --> 03:01:39,959
Speaker 2: I like the dog shit team. I like the team

3519
03:01:40,040 --> 03:01:43,480
Speaker 2: that cannot win. I'm gonna be on that team. This

3520
03:01:43,680 --> 03:01:46,440
Speaker 2: year didn't win. This year I looked like a full

3521
03:01:46,520 --> 03:01:49,000
Speaker 2: certain times because the next day, I go, didn't you

3522
03:01:49,080 --> 03:01:51,959
Speaker 2: know there was five injuries here? Didn't you know the quarterback?

3523
03:01:52,000 --> 03:01:55,760
Speaker 2: You know whatever, But normally that worked for me. So

3524
03:01:56,480 --> 03:01:59,160
Speaker 2: I've been doing this so long, Like I tease about it,

3525
03:01:59,240 --> 03:02:02,120
Speaker 2: but I'm got. I measured my success by the decade,

3526
03:02:02,400 --> 03:02:05,000
Speaker 2: not the week, month of year. You know, I didn't

3527
03:02:05,080 --> 03:02:06,360
Speaker 2: roll off a turn up truck and all of a

3528
03:02:06,400 --> 03:02:08,240
Speaker 2: sudden I'm stu finer, you know. Like in other words,

3529
03:02:08,360 --> 03:02:10,320
Speaker 2: you know, people don't pay me millions of dollars a

3530
03:02:10,440 --> 03:02:13,040
Speaker 2: year because I'm a fucking jerk off. They pay me

3531
03:02:13,080 --> 03:02:16,720
Speaker 2: because they know in not only are their sons have

3532
03:02:16,879 --> 03:02:19,920
Speaker 2: made money with me, but their fathers have made money

3533
03:02:19,959 --> 03:02:23,400
Speaker 2: with me, and it could be going back to their grandfathers.

3534
03:02:23,520 --> 03:02:26,400
Speaker 2: I have three generations. He's put on a masterclass, right

3535
03:02:26,440 --> 03:02:29,080
Speaker 2: and have fucking gone through with me. Yeah, So in

3536
03:02:29,120 --> 03:02:31,400
Speaker 2: other words, fuck yeah, it wasn't my best football year.

3537
03:02:31,600 --> 03:02:33,360
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean it's not gonna be my best basketball

3538
03:02:33,440 --> 03:02:36,600
Speaker 2: year upcoming. But for I, you know, I did not

3539
03:02:37,040 --> 03:02:39,720
Speaker 2: have a winning year. You know, I'm not afraid of that,

3540
03:02:40,000 --> 03:02:42,680
Speaker 2: you know, doing this since nineteen eighty, not afraid of that,

3541
03:02:43,080 --> 03:02:45,920
Speaker 2: not afraid of that. I've been fucking my my dick

3542
03:02:46,040 --> 03:02:49,480
Speaker 2: has been on the line for forty four fucking years.

3543
03:02:50,200 --> 03:02:53,920
Speaker 3: When you start betting, like how big of it would

3544
03:02:53,920 --> 03:02:56,640
Speaker 3: your units get in your peak when you would go betting.

3545
03:02:56,280 --> 03:03:00,320
Speaker 2: One hundred hundred and fifty thousand game. Really yeah, yeah,

3546
03:03:00,760 --> 03:03:04,400
Speaker 2: getting my dick kicked, getting fucking hammered.

3547
03:03:05,200 --> 03:03:07,520
Speaker 3: Why whenever you talk to a season gambler, it's always

3548
03:03:07,640 --> 03:03:11,680
Speaker 3: like negative town, Like Big Cat Dave, all those guys

3549
03:03:11,720 --> 03:03:13,880
Speaker 3: are like negative about gambler, But you still fucking do

3550
03:03:13,959 --> 03:03:14,400
Speaker 3: it every day.

3551
03:03:14,680 --> 03:03:19,080
Speaker 2: Well, because it's first of all, it's very competitive, like

3552
03:03:19,400 --> 03:03:21,320
Speaker 2: like we spoke like I don't know if we were rolling,

3553
03:03:21,400 --> 03:03:24,240
Speaker 2: but we spoke about Dave. Dave is one of the

3554
03:03:24,360 --> 03:03:28,040
Speaker 2: smartest humans that have ever wonkeucking Earth. Dave has a

3555
03:03:28,160 --> 03:03:31,320
Speaker 2: yiddishire cup, which you know means that he's so glib.

3556
03:03:31,400 --> 03:03:33,800
Speaker 2: He could talk on any subject whether he knows anything

3557
03:03:33,800 --> 03:03:37,440
Speaker 2: about it or not. Balls of Stone. His father was

3558
03:03:37,480 --> 03:03:41,000
Speaker 2: a lawyer. He thinks like a lawyer. He thinks analytically.

3559
03:03:41,640 --> 03:03:43,959
Speaker 2: He thinks he wants to back you into a corner.

3560
03:03:43,959 --> 03:03:46,200
Speaker 2: See you can make a mistake and then he's the

3561
03:03:46,320 --> 03:03:52,120
Speaker 2: greatest counter puncher ever. But the motherfucker is so competitive.

3562
03:03:52,560 --> 03:03:56,080
Speaker 2: He got extremely lucky being born in Massachusetts. He caught

3563
03:03:56,320 --> 03:04:01,800
Speaker 2: six fucking Super Bowls, he caught the Celtics Championships, he

3564
03:04:01,920 --> 03:04:07,360
Speaker 2: caught the Boston Bruins Championships, he caught the Boston Red

3565
03:04:07,480 --> 03:04:12,720
Speaker 2: Sox from jerkoffs and perennial losers to being arguably winning

3566
03:04:12,760 --> 03:04:17,200
Speaker 2: the most fucking World Series in any team since two

3567
03:04:17,240 --> 03:04:19,800
Speaker 2: thousand and four. So, in other words, he has so

3568
03:04:19,959 --> 03:04:22,880
Speaker 2: much winning under his belt, and that motherfucker is so

3569
03:04:23,040 --> 03:04:25,520
Speaker 2: competitive and the hardest thing in the world to do

3570
03:04:25,840 --> 03:04:30,240
Speaker 2: is win money game. Big Cat big win. Very smart.

3571
03:04:30,720 --> 03:04:33,600
Speaker 2: He looks like you know, plays the dummy role, plays

3572
03:04:33,640 --> 03:04:36,680
Speaker 2: like Amadodo. You know that motherfucker is super smart. He

3573
03:04:36,720 --> 03:04:39,920
Speaker 2: has a photographic memory. He knows everything about everything. He

3574
03:04:40,280 --> 03:04:42,520
Speaker 2: never says he doesn't know unless he knows it, and

3575
03:04:42,640 --> 03:04:45,120
Speaker 2: he fucking knows it. It's like, pft. Those guys are

3576
03:04:45,160 --> 03:04:48,000
Speaker 2: scary smart. You think they just you know, two swinging dicks.

3577
03:04:48,000 --> 03:04:50,400
Speaker 2: It's the reason that fucking you know they write three

3578
03:04:50,480 --> 03:04:52,560
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand a week on fucking Pardon Might

3579
03:04:52,600 --> 03:04:54,320
Speaker 2: Take It's in on one podcast in the fucking world.

3580
03:04:54,520 --> 03:04:59,680
Speaker 2: There's a reason that they're so fucking great. Big Cat

3581
03:05:00,680 --> 03:05:05,920
Speaker 2: so competitive, hates to fucking lose. Hates to lose. It's

3582
03:05:05,959 --> 03:05:11,240
Speaker 2: a detriment to anybody in life. I hate to fucking lose.

3583
03:05:12,360 --> 03:05:15,240
Speaker 2: If I'm walking in an airport with Sandy and I

3584
03:05:15,320 --> 03:05:17,880
Speaker 2: don't like the fucking person to my right, I'm going

3585
03:05:17,920 --> 03:05:20,360
Speaker 2: on that fucking escalator before that. I don't give a

3586
03:05:20,440 --> 03:05:23,320
Speaker 2: fuck if they're eighty years old, if they're fucking limping,

3587
03:05:23,720 --> 03:05:26,520
Speaker 2: if they're crippled, if they're in a wheelchair, I just

3588
03:05:26,800 --> 03:05:31,039
Speaker 2: fucking competitive. I'm fucking cutting them fucking off. It's a detriment.

3589
03:05:31,440 --> 03:05:38,320
Speaker 2: I don't like to lose. So gamblers, especially successful men

3590
03:05:38,640 --> 03:05:43,240
Speaker 2: and women who have either inherited money through death, accident, luck,

3591
03:05:44,160 --> 03:05:46,760
Speaker 2: who have built their businesses up from nothing and now

3592
03:05:46,840 --> 03:05:52,720
Speaker 2: are worth thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions Dave's case, hundreds

3593
03:05:52,760 --> 03:05:56,840
Speaker 2: of millions. They don't back down. They don't fucking that

3594
03:05:57,040 --> 03:06:02,720
Speaker 2: in any walk of life. They don't back down. Gambling

3595
03:06:04,200 --> 03:06:09,240
Speaker 2: is unbeatable. That doesn't mean that these competitive people that

3596
03:06:09,440 --> 03:06:12,640
Speaker 2: own seventy car lots and I'm making two million a week,

3597
03:06:12,680 --> 03:06:15,840
Speaker 2: they go teammates playing Team b HO A fuck. Am

3598
03:06:15,879 --> 03:06:17,680
Speaker 2: I not gonna be able to figure this fucking out.

3599
03:06:18,040 --> 03:06:21,360
Speaker 2: I got a fifty percent shot. They don't realize, they don't.

3600
03:06:21,720 --> 03:06:24,360
Speaker 2: They don't realize they don't. And that's really what it is.

3601
03:06:25,440 --> 03:06:34,280
Speaker 2: I had a pamphlet that in nineteen ninety two, I

3602
03:06:34,440 --> 03:06:36,840
Speaker 2: was sending a quarter of a million dollar, quarter of

3603
03:06:36,879 --> 03:06:39,280
Speaker 2: a million pamphlets out every two weeks that gave the

3604
03:06:41,320 --> 03:06:46,160
Speaker 2: schedule rotation of the games. It was called the Vegas Rotation.

3605
03:06:46,879 --> 03:06:49,560
Speaker 2: The reason the schedule was critical if you're a gambler,

3606
03:06:49,959 --> 03:06:54,480
Speaker 2: is I sent it to bookmakers, and then bookmakers sent

3607
03:06:54,600 --> 03:06:57,360
Speaker 2: it to their clients because like on a Saturday, or

3608
03:06:57,480 --> 03:07:00,360
Speaker 2: like on a Sunday, there's no fucking internet. How do

3609
03:07:00,440 --> 03:07:02,880
Speaker 2: you know this? How do you know the schedule of

3610
03:07:02,920 --> 03:07:05,880
Speaker 2: the games? So if you called the bookmaker in the

3611
03:07:05,959 --> 03:07:08,480
Speaker 2: old days, eighties and nineties, is what you would hear.

3612
03:07:08,840 --> 03:07:11,840
Speaker 2: I would go, uh stew one thirty one, all right,

3613
03:07:11,920 --> 03:07:16,040
Speaker 2: ste lines of six Patriots of seven Steelers, A four,

3614
03:07:16,520 --> 03:07:19,520
Speaker 2: uh nix the six and they would read it right

3615
03:07:19,600 --> 03:07:21,800
Speaker 2: in a fucking row at the speed of light. Unless

3616
03:07:21,879 --> 03:07:25,120
Speaker 2: you have the schedule, which was called the Las Vegas rotation,

3617
03:07:25,360 --> 03:07:28,560
Speaker 2: you're fucking dead. You have no idea. So you would

3618
03:07:28,600 --> 03:07:31,440
Speaker 2: have to write the lines in the book. So I

3619
03:07:31,560 --> 03:07:35,200
Speaker 2: had the book, so I used to inundate the advertising

3620
03:07:35,840 --> 03:07:39,000
Speaker 2: with my nine hundred numbers and my eight hundred ads.

3621
03:07:40,640 --> 03:07:48,920
Speaker 2: So offshore sports books were opened in nineteen ninety. First time,

3622
03:07:49,760 --> 03:07:53,720
Speaker 2: first time you could bet orf sure, first time you

3623
03:07:53,879 --> 03:07:57,880
Speaker 2: had any shot. Besides local bookmakers, the only place that

3624
03:07:58,000 --> 03:08:01,000
Speaker 2: you could advertise nationwide would be an Orferra sports bok

3625
03:08:01,600 --> 03:08:09,680
Speaker 2: Dave Buden opened a place in Panama called s d

3626
03:08:10,440 --> 03:08:15,240
Speaker 2: B Global and it and it stood in it UH.

3627
03:08:15,400 --> 03:08:20,879
Speaker 2: The initials were for here. Dave Steve Budden Okay opened

3628
03:08:20,879 --> 03:08:25,680
Speaker 2: a place in Panama, and Panamanian government stole four million

3629
03:08:25,720 --> 03:08:27,760
Speaker 2: dollars from him, put a gun in his fucking head

3630
03:08:27,840 --> 03:08:29,600
Speaker 2: and said get the fuck out of town. And they

3631
03:08:29,720 --> 03:08:32,080
Speaker 2: just robbed his fucking money. They literally said we're not

3632
03:08:32,200 --> 03:08:34,720
Speaker 2: letting you. Just get the fuck out. They moved to

3633
03:08:35,480 --> 03:08:39,680
Speaker 2: Costa Rica. They're about to go out of business in

3634
03:08:39,720 --> 03:08:43,280
Speaker 2: Costa Rica because they cannot figure out how to advertise

3635
03:08:43,640 --> 03:08:47,400
Speaker 2: the newspapers, the TV will not allow ads. In the

3636
03:08:47,560 --> 03:08:53,840
Speaker 2: United States. I put a half page ad for Budden

3637
03:08:54,760 --> 03:08:59,320
Speaker 2: in my pamphlet and he wrote fourteen million dollars the

3638
03:08:59,360 --> 03:09:03,360
Speaker 2: first year off of my end. The offshore of sportsbook

3639
03:09:03,400 --> 03:09:08,160
Speaker 2: business was started by me was started by me. What

3640
03:09:08,280 --> 03:09:10,960
Speaker 2: do you mean by started by you, there would have

3641
03:09:11,040 --> 03:09:13,720
Speaker 2: been no offshore fucking sportsbook business. Because he was the

3642
03:09:13,800 --> 03:09:16,760
Speaker 2: first person there got thrown out of Panama, so everybody

3643
03:09:16,879 --> 03:09:20,120
Speaker 2: heard about it. They were not going over there. And

3644
03:09:20,200 --> 03:09:21,800
Speaker 2: then he went to Costa Rica and he was the

3645
03:09:21,800 --> 03:09:24,520
Speaker 2: first and he was the first big business. He was

3646
03:09:24,560 --> 03:09:26,720
Speaker 2: the first sports book, the number one sports book where

3647
03:09:26,920 --> 03:09:27,840
Speaker 2: people in this country.

3648
03:09:28,080 --> 03:09:30,119
Speaker 1: He basically got connected with him, called him.

3649
03:09:31,800 --> 03:09:36,200
Speaker 2: For illegally can send money offshore and you couldet and

3650
03:09:36,280 --> 03:09:38,640
Speaker 2: that was the first big offsho of sports book. So

3651
03:09:38,760 --> 03:09:41,959
Speaker 2: I used to make money on advertised. I advertised for him,

3652
03:09:42,400 --> 03:09:45,560
Speaker 2: and he also advertised on my score phones. So I

3653
03:09:45,720 --> 03:09:48,680
Speaker 2: was like the first to really push your show of

3654
03:09:48,680 --> 03:09:50,960
Speaker 2: sports books. I was the first to get it off

3655
03:09:51,000 --> 03:09:55,200
Speaker 2: the fucking ground and then eventually became like mainstream. But

3656
03:09:55,400 --> 03:09:58,880
Speaker 2: then he eventually got arrested and he had to he

3657
03:09:59,000 --> 03:10:01,879
Speaker 2: had to sell us everything, and you know, he didn't

3658
03:10:01,879 --> 03:10:03,360
Speaker 2: go to jail, but he had to pay like some

3659
03:10:03,720 --> 03:10:07,439
Speaker 2: exorbit like four million dollar fine and then he eventually,

3660
03:10:07,640 --> 03:10:10,160
Speaker 2: uh he passed away. He was a good guy.

3661
03:10:10,600 --> 03:10:11,760
Speaker 1: Did you know he was going down?

3662
03:10:12,400 --> 03:10:15,160
Speaker 2: Uh No, he called me one day because because he

3663
03:10:15,200 --> 03:10:20,840
Speaker 2: said he goes he because he used to have his

3664
03:10:21,120 --> 03:10:24,000
Speaker 2: lawyers told him it was legal as long as he

3665
03:10:24,200 --> 03:10:29,600
Speaker 2: followed the money laundering laws. You weren't allowed to money launder.

3666
03:10:30,160 --> 03:10:32,800
Speaker 2: He thought it was legal. So all the money he made,

3667
03:10:33,720 --> 03:10:35,640
Speaker 2: the way he got caught was he paid taxes on

3668
03:10:35,760 --> 03:10:40,520
Speaker 2: it back into this country, lived in Miami, paid taxes

3669
03:10:40,560 --> 03:10:43,240
Speaker 2: on it, made like ten million back to back ten million,

3670
03:10:43,320 --> 03:10:45,840
Speaker 2: ten million, and then they arrested him because you weren't

3671
03:10:45,840 --> 03:10:46,760
Speaker 2: allowed to be a book maker.

3672
03:10:47,879 --> 03:10:49,600
Speaker 3: You literally weren't allowed to be a book So he

3673
03:10:49,720 --> 03:10:51,119
Speaker 3: was actually trying to do it the right way.

3674
03:10:51,320 --> 03:10:54,240
Speaker 2: I got said he and he got fucking nailed. If

3675
03:10:54,280 --> 03:10:55,959
Speaker 2: he left all the money in Coustorc, they wouldn't even

3676
03:10:56,000 --> 03:10:58,960
Speaker 2: fucking know he brought it back and paid taxes on it.

3677
03:11:00,959 --> 03:11:03,440
Speaker 3: That's fucking nuts with a two for the money. Yes,

3678
03:11:04,120 --> 03:11:07,080
Speaker 3: So how does is what process of how you?

3679
03:11:07,360 --> 03:11:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll get to know that, Okay. So during my

3680
03:11:10,680 --> 03:11:13,480
Speaker 2: nine hundred number reign from nineteen ninety to ninety five,

3681
03:11:14,080 --> 03:11:17,680
Speaker 2: I had a lot of people that work for me

3682
03:11:18,720 --> 03:11:24,959
Speaker 2: that were quality score phone announcers and good enough handicappers

3683
03:11:25,440 --> 03:11:30,040
Speaker 2: that they fed these nine hundred numbers. One of the

3684
03:11:30,160 --> 03:11:32,879
Speaker 2: kids that work for me, Brandon link.

3685
03:11:34,920 --> 03:11:36,400
Speaker 1: Link l I n K.

3686
03:11:37,360 --> 03:11:39,680
Speaker 2: He worked for me, and he was my top guy.

3687
03:11:40,320 --> 03:11:42,800
Speaker 2: I had a nine hundred eighty six oh thirty to ten,

3688
03:11:43,480 --> 03:11:45,320
Speaker 2: and then I had a nine hundred and eighty six

3689
03:11:45,560 --> 03:11:47,600
Speaker 2: H three L three H. So I had a twenty

3690
03:11:47,640 --> 03:11:49,640
Speaker 2: five dollar number that wrote three million dollars a year,

3691
03:11:50,080 --> 03:11:52,560
Speaker 2: and then I had a fifty dollar number that I

3692
03:11:52,680 --> 03:11:55,640
Speaker 2: bumped to that wrote two million dollars a year. He

3693
03:11:55,760 --> 03:11:58,360
Speaker 2: wrote about two and a half million. Then I had

3694
03:11:58,480 --> 03:12:01,560
Speaker 2: like another eight people work for me that wrote like

3695
03:12:01,640 --> 03:12:06,640
Speaker 2: two million combined. So he was the best of the rest,

3696
03:12:07,320 --> 03:12:10,640
Speaker 2: not me, because I was too finer, and I won

3697
03:12:10,720 --> 03:12:16,600
Speaker 2: a lot at that time, Thank god, he went into

3698
03:12:16,720 --> 03:12:23,640
Speaker 2: a horrific losing streak. I'm talking ten percent for nine months.

3699
03:12:26,360 --> 03:12:30,560
Speaker 2: So I said, Brandon, you're a great salesman, you have

3700
03:12:30,720 --> 03:12:35,080
Speaker 2: a great articulate voice. I'm gonna have my brother in

3701
03:12:35,200 --> 03:12:39,080
Speaker 2: law give you the games and you're gonna feed them

3702
03:12:39,120 --> 03:12:45,400
Speaker 2: on your numbers. And that worked for about three months,

3703
03:12:45,600 --> 03:12:50,440
Speaker 2: and then when the business quadrupled because Kevin was winning,

3704
03:12:51,680 --> 03:12:55,840
Speaker 2: Brandon lost his fucking mind. So had what a a

3705
03:12:55,920 --> 03:13:01,360
Speaker 2: Porsie time nine hundred king on license plates role. So

3706
03:13:01,920 --> 03:13:04,600
Speaker 2: one day come to the office and he was like

3707
03:13:04,640 --> 03:13:07,760
Speaker 2: my best buddy. People hated him because he hung with me.

3708
03:13:08,240 --> 03:13:10,280
Speaker 2: He went every day, he hung with me, went to

3709
03:13:10,320 --> 03:13:14,480
Speaker 2: all the sporting events with me, went to Super Bowls,

3710
03:13:14,520 --> 03:13:19,040
Speaker 2: went to Broadway, ate out to dinner every day. At

3711
03:13:19,080 --> 03:13:24,240
Speaker 2: my house, the salesman upstairs were on the phone pounding away.

3712
03:13:25,000 --> 03:13:27,640
Speaker 2: So downstairs we have two satellites and five TVs in

3713
03:13:27,680 --> 03:13:31,000
Speaker 2: my office. In nineteen eighty seven, think about that. Nineteen

3714
03:13:31,040 --> 03:13:33,280
Speaker 2: eighty seven, Bars didn't even have it. I had two

3715
03:13:33,320 --> 03:13:35,520
Speaker 2: satellites on the roof. To get the NFC games, you

3716
03:13:35,600 --> 03:13:37,400
Speaker 2: had to have one satellite. To get the APEC games,

3717
03:13:37,440 --> 03:13:40,160
Speaker 2: you had to have another. And I was way ahead

3718
03:13:40,160 --> 03:13:42,879
Speaker 2: of my time, state of the art. So he would

3719
03:13:42,959 --> 03:13:44,960
Speaker 2: literally hang out with me and watch the games. And

3720
03:13:45,080 --> 03:13:47,039
Speaker 2: he was best friends with my brother, and they would

3721
03:13:47,040 --> 03:13:48,959
Speaker 2: fuck whores and they would do a lot of things.

3722
03:13:50,640 --> 03:13:55,600
Speaker 2: So he gets pissed and he writes this long letter

3723
03:13:55,680 --> 03:13:59,840
Speaker 2: to me, and he gives me the Rowles back and says, listen,

3724
03:14:00,000 --> 03:14:03,040
Speaker 2: I was fucking bullshit, made you a ton of fucking money.

3725
03:14:03,480 --> 03:14:07,400
Speaker 2: How is your boy? You fucked me? Blah blah, leaves

3726
03:14:07,440 --> 03:14:17,080
Speaker 2: me goat that was nineteen ninety five, goes to like Australia,

3727
03:14:17,160 --> 03:14:21,080
Speaker 2: for two weeks, then comes back and he's both broke.

3728
03:14:21,640 --> 03:14:27,080
Speaker 2: He caties at the River Era Country Club. I'm trying

3729
03:14:27,080 --> 03:14:29,879
Speaker 2: to get ahold of them. Can't find him, no matter

3730
03:14:30,040 --> 03:14:32,920
Speaker 2: what I do. Can't find the fucking guy. Can't get

3731
03:14:32,959 --> 03:14:37,920
Speaker 2: a whole of them. Detectives, friends, given fifty grand cash.

3732
03:14:38,000 --> 03:14:39,520
Speaker 2: Find this fucking guy. I want him to come back

3733
03:14:39,520 --> 03:14:41,720
Speaker 2: to work for me, because he left me in ninety five.

3734
03:14:42,120 --> 03:14:47,280
Speaker 2: He set up someone to take over his spot, and

3735
03:14:48,040 --> 03:14:54,120
Speaker 2: ninety five I wrote eleven million, ninety six, fourteen million,

3736
03:14:54,320 --> 03:14:56,840
Speaker 2: ninety seven to sixteen million. So in the letter, he says,

3737
03:14:56,879 --> 03:14:59,640
Speaker 2: I'm not fucking you. You're well set to go on

3738
03:14:59,720 --> 03:15:03,320
Speaker 2: your You're never gonna miss me, but I can't work

3739
03:15:03,320 --> 03:15:06,360
Speaker 2: for you no more. And he was right, but now

3740
03:15:06,520 --> 03:15:08,400
Speaker 2: I'm killing It's all like, let me get a hold

3741
03:15:08,400 --> 03:15:14,400
Speaker 2: of this fune. Yeah I can't find him, and yeah,

3742
03:15:14,440 --> 03:15:16,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't even make this fuck it up.

3743
03:15:16,680 --> 03:15:19,160
Speaker 2: So I have like two hundred and twenty film part

3744
03:15:19,200 --> 03:15:22,320
Speaker 2: time people working for me. It's before the Internet killed me.

3745
03:15:22,400 --> 03:15:24,440
Speaker 2: It's before the nine hundred numbers went in the toilet,

3746
03:15:24,520 --> 03:15:27,240
Speaker 2: seventy five percent chargebacks, before I had to borrow money

3747
03:15:27,280 --> 03:15:29,880
Speaker 2: and go into bankrupt not bankruptcy, but you know, destitute

3748
03:15:29,879 --> 03:15:33,280
Speaker 2: for seven years and can't paid a mortgage. Why do

3749
03:15:33,360 --> 03:15:35,760
Speaker 2: My salesman comes down and goes, you're not gonna believe this.

3750
03:15:37,320 --> 03:15:42,320
Speaker 2: My cousin owns a security firm an Arizona and to

3751
03:15:42,480 --> 03:15:47,320
Speaker 2: keep proparazzis away from stars. And Dustin Hoffman and Renee

3752
03:15:47,400 --> 03:15:50,680
Speaker 2: Russo are riding horses in Arizona at the Grand Canyon

3753
03:15:51,520 --> 03:15:54,120
Speaker 2: and they over hear Dustin open say, I'm playing this

3754
03:15:54,360 --> 03:15:56,840
Speaker 2: Jewish guy Stu Finer in New York in a movie

3755
03:15:58,080 --> 03:16:00,320
Speaker 2: instead a salesman. Don't be a fa Get the fuck here,

3756
03:16:00,360 --> 03:16:02,040
Speaker 2: you jerk off. What are you out of your fucking you?

3757
03:16:02,160 --> 03:16:02,720
Speaker 1: Do you? I mean?

3758
03:16:02,959 --> 03:16:05,800
Speaker 2: Are you fucking Is this a joke? He goes. I

3759
03:16:06,120 --> 03:16:11,360
Speaker 2: swear to fucking God. Renee Russeo's husband, Danny Gilroy wrote

3760
03:16:11,400 --> 03:16:15,160
Speaker 2: the screenplay, and I swear to God there's no mistake here.

3761
03:16:16,360 --> 03:16:20,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, get me fucking Danny Gilroy's number. Guy gets

3762
03:16:20,480 --> 03:16:23,240
Speaker 2: me Danny Gilroy's number, called Danny Gilroy on the phone.

3763
03:16:23,280 --> 03:16:27,560
Speaker 2: Rene Russo's husband, I go listen to you, low life cocksucker, motherfucker.

3764
03:16:27,680 --> 03:16:31,920
Speaker 2: I'll fuck your wife on fucking National TV. Who the

3765
03:16:32,000 --> 03:16:34,640
Speaker 2: fuck you to play to fucking write a movie about

3766
03:16:34,680 --> 03:16:37,440
Speaker 2: fucking me. I'll sue your cocksucking balls and I hang

3767
03:16:37,520 --> 03:16:40,520
Speaker 2: up the phone. Leave my number. Call me. I am,

3768
03:16:41,480 --> 03:16:46,360
Speaker 2: I am telling you. One minute later, Brandon calls me

3769
03:16:46,760 --> 03:16:49,840
Speaker 2: after two years, can't find a kid still, What are

3770
03:16:49,879 --> 03:16:52,959
Speaker 2: you doing? You can't threaten Danny Gilroy. You're gonna blow

3771
03:16:53,000 --> 03:16:56,800
Speaker 2: the whole thing up. Blow what thing up? Asshole? And

3772
03:16:56,920 --> 03:17:01,800
Speaker 2: he tells me the whole story. He Caddiedne. He caddied

3773
03:17:01,959 --> 03:17:05,960
Speaker 2: Danny Gilroy Renee Russo's husband, and Dustin Hoffman at the

3774
03:17:06,040 --> 03:17:09,360
Speaker 2: River Over a country club. He lined Danny Gilroy up

3775
03:17:09,360 --> 03:17:13,600
Speaker 2: for a fifty foot pot that he sang. Dustin Hoffman

3776
03:17:14,320 --> 03:17:17,480
Speaker 2: on the spot gave him twenty thousand dollars because during

3777
03:17:17,520 --> 03:17:21,120
Speaker 2: the eighteen Holes, he pitched his story about him working

3778
03:17:21,200 --> 03:17:26,560
Speaker 2: for me. I go, well, listen, there's no fucking way

3779
03:17:26,680 --> 03:17:28,800
Speaker 2: you're gonna do this without me. He goes, I'll come

3780
03:17:28,840 --> 03:17:32,480
Speaker 2: back to work for you and we'll make it happen.

3781
03:17:33,080 --> 03:17:34,840
Speaker 2: He came back to work for me as if he

3782
03:17:35,040 --> 03:17:41,320
Speaker 2: never stopped, became a superstar again working for me. Sits

3783
03:17:41,400 --> 03:17:46,000
Speaker 2: on Dustin Hoffman's desk ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand

3784
03:17:46,000 --> 03:17:49,040
Speaker 2: and two thousand and one, hands it back, says, I

3785
03:17:49,080 --> 03:17:53,080
Speaker 2: can't do the project. Danny Gilroy, Renee Russo, Shop the

3786
03:17:53,200 --> 03:17:57,040
Speaker 2: fucking thing two thousand and two, three four, two thousand

3787
03:17:57,080 --> 03:18:04,000
Speaker 2: and five. Jim Robinson that owned Morgan Creek Production, Last

3788
03:18:04,040 --> 03:18:05,959
Speaker 2: House on the Box finally says, let's do the movie,

3789
03:18:06,800 --> 03:18:10,680
Speaker 2: and they got Dustin Hoffman. They out totally out. They

3790
03:18:10,760 --> 03:18:14,480
Speaker 2: got al Pacino to play me, Matthew McConaughey to play Brandon,

3791
03:18:14,640 --> 03:18:19,640
Speaker 2: Renee Russo to play Sandy, Jeremy Piven to play my

3792
03:18:19,720 --> 03:18:21,920
Speaker 2: brother in law, Kevin Duffy that ran the fucking place,

3793
03:18:22,920 --> 03:18:25,320
Speaker 2: and the customer that we took for a ton of

3794
03:18:25,400 --> 03:18:28,640
Speaker 2: money was a mon de sante. And in the movie,

3795
03:18:29,280 --> 03:18:31,680
Speaker 2: they made me sign off all the rights and everything.

3796
03:18:32,080 --> 03:18:35,320
Speaker 2: The sports advisors in that movie al Pacina, Matthew McConaughey,

3797
03:18:35,320 --> 03:18:40,640
Speaker 2: and Jeremy Pipper on my TV show, So two weeks

3798
03:18:40,800 --> 03:18:48,240
Speaker 2: before the movie fucking airs all the sudden, Brandon says, fuck,

3799
03:18:48,240 --> 03:18:52,640
Speaker 2: you're not letting me in al Pacina. Wasn't you what

3800
03:18:52,680 --> 03:18:54,160
Speaker 2: do you mean? It was? It me? It's my movie.

3801
03:18:54,200 --> 03:18:56,800
Speaker 2: I fucking signed off. This is my fucking TV show.

3802
03:18:57,560 --> 03:18:59,720
Speaker 2: He does not let me do all the interviews that

3803
03:18:59,840 --> 03:19:05,400
Speaker 2: he does. At the time, I went partners with Dave

3804
03:19:05,520 --> 03:19:08,640
Speaker 2: Boudin's son, Steve Budden. He became a total drug addict,

3805
03:19:08,760 --> 03:19:11,600
Speaker 2: lost all his fucking money, and he was some entitled

3806
03:19:11,720 --> 03:19:15,440
Speaker 2: fucking scumbag. Really, the worst of the worst, to your face,

3807
03:19:15,440 --> 03:19:17,440
Speaker 2: would hug you, kiss you, and then try to fuck

3808
03:19:17,440 --> 03:19:19,920
Speaker 2: your wife behind your back. You know, the biggest thief ever,

3809
03:19:20,080 --> 03:19:22,480
Speaker 2: which is most of the time what happens when the

3810
03:19:22,640 --> 03:19:25,400
Speaker 2: father has money or your family has money, and then

3811
03:19:25,480 --> 03:19:28,200
Speaker 2: the son is just fucking you know, he's married into

3812
03:19:28,280 --> 03:19:30,200
Speaker 2: it and like he thinks he's nick Shock, he's got

3813
03:19:30,240 --> 03:19:35,800
Speaker 2: his father whatever to do whatever. And it wasn't all

3814
03:19:35,920 --> 03:19:39,760
Speaker 2: ugly with Steve Buden because he got sportsbook dot Com

3815
03:19:39,959 --> 03:19:43,680
Speaker 2: and sports dot Com. He got million dollar deals for

3816
03:19:43,920 --> 03:19:46,920
Speaker 2: me to advertise on my score phones. When I bought

3817
03:19:46,959 --> 03:19:50,920
Speaker 2: the scorephones from Jerry McConn. That went bad. So it

3818
03:19:51,080 --> 03:19:53,560
Speaker 2: isn't like all bad. He didn't fuck me totally, but

3819
03:19:53,640 --> 03:19:58,720
Speaker 2: he eventually fucked me. So and then he goes into

3820
03:19:58,760 --> 03:20:01,640
Speaker 2: business where Brandon and Fox Brandon because he says to me, STU,

3821
03:20:02,400 --> 03:20:05,680
Speaker 2: don't worry about it. We set up a website for Brandon.

3822
03:20:06,000 --> 03:20:09,200
Speaker 2: We changed Brandon's name to Brandon Lang dot com. And

3823
03:20:09,320 --> 03:20:11,880
Speaker 2: at the time, I went into the Internet and I

3824
03:20:11,959 --> 03:20:15,760
Speaker 2: started doing really good with websites. So Steve comes to

3825
03:20:15,800 --> 03:20:18,959
Speaker 2: me and says, let's split Brandon run. We're gonna take

3826
03:20:19,200 --> 03:20:24,080
Speaker 2: every customer that advertises and pays Brandon Lang, and we're

3827
03:20:24,080 --> 03:20:26,600
Speaker 2: gonna just push a bit to stewfinder dot com and

3828
03:20:26,720 --> 03:20:29,200
Speaker 2: all these other websites we own. So we use Brandon's

3829
03:20:29,360 --> 03:20:31,760
Speaker 2: site as a lost leader Brandon Avenue, and we took

3830
03:20:31,800 --> 03:20:34,480
Speaker 2: all the customers. So I made like six million dollars

3831
03:20:34,520 --> 03:20:38,760
Speaker 2: off of it and forever. Eventually Brandon came around, and

3832
03:20:38,879 --> 03:20:41,119
Speaker 2: eventually Steve wrote a book and said, yeah, of course,

3833
03:20:41,680 --> 03:20:44,480
Speaker 2: Apputuna was find It And the movie was a scruntled

3834
03:20:44,520 --> 03:20:48,080
Speaker 2: employees standpoint on work of for Sue. You know, that

3835
03:20:48,280 --> 03:20:51,320
Speaker 2: was fucking what happened with the movie. So that's the

3836
03:20:51,440 --> 03:20:55,280
Speaker 2: whole movie story in a nutshellan Well, I'm gonna watch

3837
03:20:55,320 --> 03:20:55,680
Speaker 2: that night.

3838
03:20:55,760 --> 03:20:58,920
Speaker 4: God, it's a good one because basically it's because it's

3839
03:20:58,920 --> 03:21:02,240
Speaker 4: Brandon Lang in the movie, right. Brandon Link is Brandon Lang, right,

3840
03:21:02,840 --> 03:21:07,240
Speaker 4: and it's it feels like the hiccup of him going

3841
03:21:07,320 --> 03:21:09,680
Speaker 4: on this dry spell and then your brother in law

3842
03:21:10,520 --> 03:21:12,920
Speaker 4: making forcing him to give brand into the picks and

3843
03:21:12,959 --> 03:21:14,600
Speaker 4: he had to do and then you you know, hit

3844
03:21:14,680 --> 03:21:16,840
Speaker 4: it big and he got pissed off and left. They

3845
03:21:16,920 --> 03:21:19,560
Speaker 4: more so made it about getting too close with the family,

3846
03:21:19,600 --> 03:21:21,600
Speaker 4: getting closer to your wife, you thinking that the cheating

3847
03:21:21,680 --> 03:21:23,640
Speaker 4: things going on. And then that's why he writes a letter,

3848
03:21:23,720 --> 03:21:25,160
Speaker 4: gives the role X back and all the watch and

3849
03:21:25,200 --> 03:21:28,120
Speaker 4: everything else, because it's like, hey, we're we're both going

3850
03:21:28,160 --> 03:21:30,640
Speaker 4: down a bad way. Al Pacino's going down a bad way,

3851
03:21:31,120 --> 03:21:33,080
Speaker 4: trying to do private you know, all this stuff. Not

3852
03:21:33,200 --> 03:21:36,959
Speaker 4: trying to like ruin the movie, but correct, it's really

3853
03:21:37,040 --> 03:21:37,640
Speaker 4: it's awesome.

3854
03:21:37,680 --> 03:21:38,320
Speaker 1: You'll really like it.

3855
03:21:38,440 --> 03:21:43,720
Speaker 2: The scene in the movie in the restaurant, that restaurant,

3856
03:21:44,120 --> 03:21:47,039
Speaker 2: what I think he fucks Jamie King I think her name.

3857
03:21:46,959 --> 03:21:52,920
Speaker 1: Is where al Pacino sets that up? No, no, no, no, no, no, he.

3858
03:21:53,080 --> 03:21:56,119
Speaker 2: Fucked this girl in in this restaurant. Well, I don't

3859
03:21:56,120 --> 03:21:57,720
Speaker 2: remember how it was played in the movie.

3860
03:21:57,760 --> 03:22:00,480
Speaker 4: Where at where in the movie Brandon thinks it's him

3861
03:22:00,560 --> 03:22:02,760
Speaker 4: gaming her up, But really al Pacino said that.

3862
03:22:02,879 --> 03:22:05,240
Speaker 2: Up right, Okay, what really happened? It was it was

3863
03:22:05,280 --> 03:22:09,920
Speaker 2: a restaurant called Nanny Ilvalletto sixty first between lex and Park. Yeah,

3864
03:22:10,240 --> 03:22:12,560
Speaker 2: the two restaurants we ran in is that restaurant and

3865
03:22:12,640 --> 03:22:16,840
Speaker 2: Smith Lenski's. We went there almost every night with twenty people.

3866
03:22:17,560 --> 03:22:20,720
Speaker 2: I'm spending like sixty eight thousand a night on dinner,

3867
03:22:21,120 --> 03:22:24,040
Speaker 2: like because I had unlimited money and I didn't have

3868
03:22:24,240 --> 03:22:26,480
Speaker 2: the Yeah, I was never good with saving it. And

3869
03:22:27,320 --> 03:22:29,080
Speaker 2: I live like I'm gonna die tomorrow. It's how I

3870
03:22:29,200 --> 03:22:30,959
Speaker 2: do it. It's not a great way to be it's

3871
03:22:31,000 --> 03:22:32,680
Speaker 2: not a great way to be married to me or

3872
03:22:33,280 --> 03:22:35,800
Speaker 2: whatever of financial advisors, but that's how I do it.

3873
03:22:35,959 --> 03:22:38,840
Speaker 2: So you know, like if I died at thirty, I

3874
03:22:38,879 --> 03:22:40,680
Speaker 2: had a great life. So I'm living like I'm gonna

3875
03:22:40,680 --> 03:22:45,000
Speaker 2: be sixty three. January thirty first, same birthday's PFT day

3876
03:22:45,040 --> 03:22:49,200
Speaker 2: before Big Cats January thirtieth. And then Craig Cotton is

3877
03:22:49,240 --> 03:22:53,000
Speaker 2: January thirty first, and Josh whatever that Josh the uh

3878
03:22:53,400 --> 03:22:56,440
Speaker 2: who's the kid that does BFF with Josh Richards is

3879
03:22:56,520 --> 03:22:58,720
Speaker 2: January thirty first. His birthday's the same as Oz too.

3880
03:22:59,240 --> 03:23:02,480
Speaker 2: But so I got sick. I got thirty three years

3881
03:23:02,560 --> 03:23:04,400
Speaker 2: of a role that I never thought I was gonna happen.

3882
03:23:04,400 --> 03:23:06,120
Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna die at thirty because I

3883
03:23:06,280 --> 03:23:08,879
Speaker 2: just had the perfect life. You know, I could deal

3884
03:23:09,000 --> 03:23:11,600
Speaker 2: with losing money gambling, I could deal with the sit downs,

3885
03:23:11,720 --> 03:23:14,520
Speaker 2: I could deal with all the craziness because I just

3886
03:23:14,640 --> 03:23:16,400
Speaker 2: had so much fun, you know what I mean, Like,

3887
03:23:16,520 --> 03:23:18,879
Speaker 2: no one had as much fun. You couldn't have as

3888
03:23:18,959 --> 03:23:21,920
Speaker 2: much fun as I did. You couldn't bring an entourage

3889
03:23:22,040 --> 03:23:26,240
Speaker 2: forever everywhere every night, like I hit the super Bowl

3890
03:23:26,520 --> 03:23:33,360
Speaker 2: every night for almost thirty fucking years. But Brandon, what

3891
03:23:33,520 --> 03:23:34,160
Speaker 2: was the point with that?

3892
03:23:34,240 --> 03:23:36,200
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I just I was just saying it looked

3893
03:23:36,240 --> 03:23:38,119
Speaker 4: like some of the Hollywood they made it more about

3894
03:23:38,160 --> 03:23:40,039
Speaker 4: the white situation than the other words.

3895
03:23:40,480 --> 03:23:46,360
Speaker 2: The movie is specifically seventy percent fake, thirty percentury, like

3896
03:23:46,480 --> 03:23:50,280
Speaker 2: every Hollywood movie. But it really is how Brandon felt,

3897
03:23:50,600 --> 03:23:54,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. He is a disgruntled employees

3898
03:23:54,680 --> 03:23:57,240
Speaker 2: standpoint on him working.

3899
03:23:57,040 --> 03:23:59,280
Speaker 1: For me, on him thinking he's coming up, he's the

3900
03:23:59,320 --> 03:24:00,680
Speaker 1: real one. He's at her, but the.

3901
03:24:02,959 --> 03:24:07,480
Speaker 2: Games from him away. That was his only contention. Nothing else, YEA,

3902
03:24:07,600 --> 03:24:10,760
Speaker 2: my only like. And then he used to like Brandon

3903
03:24:11,040 --> 03:24:14,440
Speaker 2: used to get food for the office upstairs, which he

3904
03:24:14,520 --> 03:24:18,960
Speaker 2: thought was beneath him. So one day we get a

3905
03:24:19,040 --> 03:24:22,760
Speaker 2: tcby order and Brandon is getting the order, and my

3906
03:24:22,920 --> 03:24:24,920
Speaker 2: brother comes down and says, Kevin Wan should go upstairs

3907
03:24:25,720 --> 03:24:30,720
Speaker 2: and get the order. And Brandon was like, fucking get

3908
03:24:30,879 --> 03:24:34,040
Speaker 2: the order, and what my brother cracks him across the

3909
03:24:34,120 --> 03:24:37,200
Speaker 2: face and moves his nose from here to here. He

3910
03:24:37,280 --> 03:24:39,800
Speaker 2: still has problems with his nose. So of course we

3911
03:24:39,920 --> 03:24:43,320
Speaker 2: go to the hospital. The doctors are going, you got

3912
03:24:43,400 --> 03:24:46,680
Speaker 2: to soothe this fucking guy right now. You could put

3913
03:24:46,760 --> 03:24:48,360
Speaker 2: him in jail. This you're gonna problemse here for the

3914
03:24:48,360 --> 03:24:50,760
Speaker 2: rest of your life. You're gonna eat surgery, You're not

3915
03:24:50,800 --> 03:24:53,800
Speaker 2: gonna be able to breathe right. And I'm listen to this,

3916
03:24:53,920 --> 03:24:57,440
Speaker 2: and I fucking call my guy up. I said, you

3917
03:24:57,520 --> 03:24:59,360
Speaker 2: better get to this fucking place quick because we've got

3918
03:24:59,360 --> 03:25:03,240
Speaker 2: an issue here. So he tells Brandon on the fucking table,

3919
03:25:04,120 --> 03:25:08,440
Speaker 2: you fucking you've broken nose, the last fucking problem you're

3920
03:25:08,440 --> 03:25:11,600
Speaker 2: gonna fucking have. Thank God, because my brother would have

3921
03:25:11,600 --> 03:25:13,480
Speaker 2: gone to jail definitely.

3922
03:25:14,600 --> 03:25:16,119
Speaker 1: So, yeah, you've had to make a couple of calls

3923
03:25:16,160 --> 03:25:17,360
Speaker 1: over your during your time.

3924
03:25:17,440 --> 03:25:19,040
Speaker 2: Oh, I've had to make like forty calls that I

3925
03:25:19,080 --> 03:25:21,039
Speaker 2: can't tell any of them. That's the only soft one

3926
03:25:21,080 --> 03:25:23,120
Speaker 2: I can tell. Yeah, I've made a lot of calls.

3927
03:25:23,320 --> 03:25:25,440
Speaker 1: You can make calls till I have no choice.

3928
03:25:26,320 --> 03:25:28,400
Speaker 2: I've made a lot of things, yeah, a lot of

3929
03:25:28,600 --> 03:25:32,640
Speaker 2: really disgusting, ugly like holy fuck, Like how how can

3930
03:25:32,720 --> 03:25:35,240
Speaker 2: you deliver it yourself? And you do what you gotta do?

3931
03:25:35,760 --> 03:25:38,840
Speaker 2: You know, certain ship gets scary. You know, I put

3932
03:25:38,920 --> 03:25:43,480
Speaker 2: myself in some bad spots. But it is what it is,

3933
03:25:44,920 --> 03:25:45,880
Speaker 2: you know, it is what it is.

3934
03:25:46,120 --> 03:25:49,760
Speaker 1: A line, right, how do you feel like you're your outlook?

3935
03:25:50,879 --> 03:25:54,400
Speaker 4: You know, principles, philosophy, whatever's changed since those times were

3936
03:25:54,440 --> 03:25:55,920
Speaker 4: all of this stuff basically.

3937
03:25:56,200 --> 03:26:02,680
Speaker 2: Like in other words, I haven't insane attitude of gratitude.

3938
03:26:02,879 --> 03:26:06,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the way you are like embracing the positivity,

3939
03:26:06,440 --> 03:26:08,840
Speaker 4: the way that people understand Stu Finer in the barstool

3940
03:26:08,840 --> 03:26:11,560
Speaker 4: sports world. It also sounds like it's a very different

3941
03:26:11,640 --> 03:26:15,119
Speaker 4: Stufiner that is in this world of gambling, the mafias,

3942
03:26:15,200 --> 03:26:15,800
Speaker 4: the everything else.

3943
03:26:15,840 --> 03:26:16,920
Speaker 1: Like I've had, I've had.

3944
03:26:16,840 --> 03:26:23,520
Speaker 2: Twenty years, almost thirty years removed from that. Think about

3945
03:26:23,520 --> 03:26:28,279
Speaker 2: that most of the stoolies, most of my peers weren't

3946
03:26:28,320 --> 03:26:32,160
Speaker 2: even born yet. Well, we're young, Like I'm the oldest stoolie.

3947
03:26:32,200 --> 03:26:35,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be sixty three. You know, I don't Act

3948
03:26:35,160 --> 03:26:39,040
Speaker 2: sixty three, Act like I'm fucking twenty three. But so

3949
03:26:40,240 --> 03:26:43,720
Speaker 2: I have an extreme attitude of gratitude. I have insane

3950
03:26:43,879 --> 03:26:48,000
Speaker 2: wisdom due to failure after failure after failure. To never

3951
03:26:48,080 --> 03:26:51,840
Speaker 2: lose your enthusiasm. You know, I have an overall scope

3952
03:26:51,879 --> 03:26:56,160
Speaker 2: on gambling where kids call me all the time that

3953
03:26:56,480 --> 03:27:00,000
Speaker 2: like my business is the hardest business in the world,

3954
03:27:00,240 --> 03:27:03,680
Speaker 2: because it is it. Like I ever get people, STU,

3955
03:27:04,240 --> 03:27:06,840
Speaker 2: I want to pay you never gambled in my life.

3956
03:27:07,240 --> 03:27:10,280
Speaker 2: This is the first time. Let's go. I never get that.

3957
03:27:11,160 --> 03:27:18,879
Speaker 2: Never I get train wrecks. STU. I'm stuck Xyz, STU.

3958
03:27:19,160 --> 03:27:22,920
Speaker 2: I got murdered at a min a really bad spot. STU.

3959
03:27:23,600 --> 03:27:24,960
Speaker 3: I lost money.

3960
03:27:25,200 --> 03:27:28,400
Speaker 2: I did not have my first thing, I say to them,

3961
03:27:28,560 --> 03:27:33,280
Speaker 2: which is so counter productive for my businesses. Hey, listen,

3962
03:27:33,680 --> 03:27:36,240
Speaker 2: gamblings for the rich stout fund lose money. I mean,

3963
03:27:36,800 --> 03:27:39,720
Speaker 2: you're fucking a psycho. How about going to gambles anonymous,

3964
03:27:39,959 --> 03:27:42,840
Speaker 2: don't ruin your fucking life. I don't need your money now.

3965
03:27:42,879 --> 03:27:44,520
Speaker 2: I went to said that when I was in my twenties,

3966
03:27:45,000 --> 03:27:48,080
Speaker 2: and I say it for the last fifteen years. So

3967
03:27:49,080 --> 03:27:52,480
Speaker 2: I'm trying to dig someone out of a hole and

3968
03:27:52,560 --> 03:27:55,800
Speaker 2: they're putting me in a spot that I gonna win

3969
03:27:56,280 --> 03:28:03,400
Speaker 2: right fucking now, and that's impossible. That's impossible. There's no

3970
03:28:03,520 --> 03:28:07,200
Speaker 2: way to help someone. If all I ever did was

3971
03:28:07,240 --> 03:28:11,600
Speaker 2: get someone from scratch, I could manage a bankroll. I

3972
03:28:11,720 --> 03:28:14,240
Speaker 2: can understand the whole thing. I got a shot. I

3973
03:28:14,320 --> 03:28:18,480
Speaker 2: got no shot. These people are already destroyed. They're hammered

3974
03:28:18,959 --> 03:28:21,560
Speaker 2: because people on their own think they could win, and

3975
03:28:21,640 --> 03:28:24,720
Speaker 2: then people chase thinking they could win. Then they're gonna

3976
03:28:24,720 --> 03:28:28,240
Speaker 2: ask their dog, their mother, their father, the banker who

3977
03:28:28,360 --> 03:28:30,840
Speaker 2: they like, and they're gonna bet those games. Then they're

3978
03:28:30,840 --> 03:28:34,000
Speaker 2: gonna watch some fucking jerkwof shows and they're gonna get

3979
03:28:34,040 --> 03:28:38,520
Speaker 2: hammered again. You can't go on any sports channel right

3980
03:28:38,600 --> 03:28:43,560
Speaker 2: now and not get a handicapper or an analyst that's

3981
03:28:43,680 --> 03:28:48,560
Speaker 2: played the game that's literally staring at you telling you

3982
03:28:48,879 --> 03:28:51,280
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. Now, he's not telling you to bet

3983
03:28:51,400 --> 03:28:55,800
Speaker 2: on it, but he's so confident in his analysis that

3984
03:28:55,959 --> 03:28:57,560
Speaker 2: you do bet on it, and then you get hammered,

3985
03:28:57,920 --> 03:29:01,360
Speaker 2: and then they fucking come to me gonna do I mean,

3986
03:29:01,680 --> 03:29:06,600
Speaker 2: you're already dead. So it's a really tough tough business. Now,

3987
03:29:07,480 --> 03:29:12,800
Speaker 2: I do get people who have unlimited money, trust fund people,

3988
03:29:13,879 --> 03:29:18,160
Speaker 2: people that are responsible. I do get them. But that's

3989
03:29:18,240 --> 03:29:21,640
Speaker 2: like twenty percent of my business. Eighty percent of my

3990
03:29:21,720 --> 03:29:27,000
Speaker 2: business is train wrecks that I pray to God I

3991
03:29:27,120 --> 03:29:31,320
Speaker 2: can get hot tonight for the guy because half of

3992
03:29:31,360 --> 03:29:33,880
Speaker 2: the people go, listen, I got one shot, I got this.

3993
03:29:34,480 --> 03:29:38,120
Speaker 2: I'm dead if you don't win, and I'm losing for

3994
03:29:38,200 --> 03:29:42,640
Speaker 2: that guy forty percent. I'm losing for that situation, guaranteed

3995
03:29:42,760 --> 03:29:48,160
Speaker 2: forty percent of a time, guaranteed sixty percent is insane winning.

3996
03:29:48,680 --> 03:29:52,360
Speaker 2: That's inhuman winning. Now you're put in a position where

3997
03:29:52,400 --> 03:29:54,800
Speaker 2: you're in a fucking out you have to win. So

3998
03:29:54,959 --> 03:30:00,200
Speaker 2: it's a really tough business. So my point of my attitude, dude,

3999
03:30:00,280 --> 03:30:04,240
Speaker 2: is that my experience being on this earth so long.

4000
03:30:04,400 --> 03:30:08,160
Speaker 2: I'm a father afore, I'm a husband being. You know,

4001
03:30:08,440 --> 03:30:11,600
Speaker 2: no matter what I performatively talk about my body count

4002
03:30:11,680 --> 03:30:13,440
Speaker 2: and who I you know, I'm married to the same

4003
03:30:13,520 --> 03:30:15,760
Speaker 2: fucking girl a ten years of the day. I got

4004
03:30:15,800 --> 03:30:18,840
Speaker 2: no prenuptial I am not a fucking really good looking

4005
03:30:18,920 --> 03:30:21,080
Speaker 2: at all. I don't have a big dick. I do

4006
03:30:21,240 --> 03:30:23,720
Speaker 2: eat ass and and eat pussy. I'm great at it.

4007
03:30:23,800 --> 03:30:26,160
Speaker 2: But you know, nobody's going, Wow, I'm gonna fuck that guy.

4008
03:30:26,240 --> 03:30:28,720
Speaker 2: So I'm with one person. You know what I mean,

4009
03:30:28,760 --> 03:30:31,240
Speaker 2: I'm really that's who I am. You know, I'm a father,

4010
03:30:31,680 --> 03:30:35,640
Speaker 2: I'm a husband, and I have a lot of knowledge

4011
03:30:35,720 --> 03:30:39,360
Speaker 2: because of my failures and my psycho bad experiences, so

4012
03:30:39,520 --> 03:30:44,959
Speaker 2: that most people's life suck. That's the cold, hard reality

4013
03:30:45,000 --> 03:30:50,760
Speaker 2: of life. Life is. Life is very hard, very difficult.

4014
03:30:51,720 --> 03:30:52,120
Speaker 3: It is.

4015
03:30:54,240 --> 03:30:57,000
Speaker 2: Painful. So what I try to do is give a

4016
03:30:57,040 --> 03:31:03,039
Speaker 2: little brevity to gambling, brevity to life, be super nice

4017
03:31:03,120 --> 03:31:07,640
Speaker 2: to people. I help the less fortunate. I do so

4018
03:31:07,920 --> 03:31:11,160
Speaker 2: much that I will no one will ever know, including

4019
03:31:11,200 --> 03:31:13,600
Speaker 2: my wife, what I do for people because I was

4020
03:31:13,680 --> 03:31:16,960
Speaker 2: taught in the overt is anonymous rooms when I went there,

4021
03:31:16,959 --> 03:31:19,320
Speaker 2: because I was two sixty two and I got down

4022
03:31:19,360 --> 03:31:21,680
Speaker 2: to one thirty nine because of the rooms, they taught

4023
03:31:21,720 --> 03:31:23,840
Speaker 2: me what to do. They taught me. I'm eating over

4024
03:31:23,920 --> 03:31:29,080
Speaker 2: my feelings and problems of feelings, so that I know

4025
03:31:29,720 --> 03:31:34,480
Speaker 2: how hard life is and that most people do not

4026
03:31:34,760 --> 03:31:40,120
Speaker 2: ever catch breaks. Most people have an unsatisfied life. So

4027
03:31:40,240 --> 03:31:42,760
Speaker 2: I try to tell people to be great, take no

4028
03:31:42,840 --> 03:31:45,520
Speaker 2: shit from no one. You can do it. But like

4029
03:31:45,560 --> 03:31:49,240
Speaker 2: in other words, the reason I was successful, first of all,

4030
03:31:49,240 --> 03:31:51,840
Speaker 2: I was with the same girl. She's my bookkeeper. Her

4031
03:31:51,920 --> 03:31:54,120
Speaker 2: father worked for me, her brother in law work for me,

4032
03:31:54,200 --> 03:31:56,680
Speaker 2: her two sisters work for me. So I was married

4033
03:31:56,840 --> 03:31:59,359
Speaker 2: into that right, that's number one. And they helped me tremendously.

4034
03:32:00,080 --> 03:32:03,560
Speaker 2: So I didn't stray like I could have. Like she's

4035
03:32:03,640 --> 03:32:05,840
Speaker 2: been with me to all the sporting events, she's been

4036
03:32:05,840 --> 03:32:09,480
Speaker 2: with me to all the craziness. She's there. That is invaluable.

4037
03:32:09,520 --> 03:32:11,440
Speaker 2: That's number one. Otherwise I would have crashed and burned.

4038
03:32:11,640 --> 03:32:13,960
Speaker 2: No to ways about it. It's not a fucking you know,

4039
03:32:14,000 --> 03:32:16,240
Speaker 2: I would have had babies and I would have got sued,

4040
03:32:16,640 --> 03:32:22,280
Speaker 2: who knows whatever. But the point is that I was

4041
03:32:22,360 --> 03:32:26,440
Speaker 2: taught that you have to help the less fortunate and

4042
03:32:26,640 --> 03:32:29,880
Speaker 2: never get found out you can't. You can't say I

4043
03:32:29,959 --> 03:32:33,680
Speaker 2: did this for someone look at me, because it doesn't count.

4044
03:32:34,480 --> 03:32:39,720
Speaker 2: It doesn't count. So your my plight in life, my

4045
03:32:39,920 --> 03:32:43,360
Speaker 2: reality of life is that I fucking am I want

4046
03:32:43,400 --> 03:32:45,680
Speaker 2: to treat the garbage man the same way I'll treat

4047
03:32:45,680 --> 03:32:50,560
Speaker 2: I walk into that fucking barstool, New York office, first

4048
03:32:50,720 --> 03:32:54,240
Speaker 2: New York office, second, Chicago, I say hello to everyone,

4049
03:32:54,480 --> 03:32:57,080
Speaker 2: I look everyone in the eye, I shake everyone's hand.

4050
03:32:57,840 --> 03:33:00,600
Speaker 2: I don't remember half of their fucking names. But I

4051
03:33:00,720 --> 03:33:02,640
Speaker 2: make sure that I say hello and I look at

4052
03:33:02,760 --> 03:33:09,040
Speaker 2: me on and they know that I am real and

4053
03:33:09,160 --> 03:33:13,000
Speaker 2: they can rely on me, because, as you know, you

4054
03:33:13,120 --> 03:33:15,680
Speaker 2: guys get the world by the bulls. You were gifted

4055
03:33:15,760 --> 03:33:22,120
Speaker 2: with such intelligence, you can articulate, you have insane social skills,

4056
03:33:22,680 --> 03:33:26,439
Speaker 2: you have an insane reputation, and you were phenomenal athletes.

4057
03:33:27,080 --> 03:33:29,960
Speaker 2: No one has that, you know, no one really has that.

4058
03:33:30,000 --> 03:33:32,160
Speaker 2: That's why you are who you guys are. You know,

4059
03:33:32,440 --> 03:33:35,880
Speaker 2: I got the ability. I bounced back from tragedy and

4060
03:33:36,000 --> 03:33:39,320
Speaker 2: circumstances that should have taken me out so many times.

4061
03:33:39,680 --> 03:33:42,720
Speaker 2: If I made the wrong step certain times, if I

4062
03:33:42,879 --> 03:33:46,960
Speaker 2: went like certain times, I was late to certain situations

4063
03:33:47,040 --> 03:33:51,200
Speaker 2: that fourteen people died. I should have been there. I

4064
03:33:51,520 --> 03:33:54,680
Speaker 2: was not there. I could have been smacked around with

4065
03:33:54,840 --> 03:33:57,680
Speaker 2: my partners when mafia came after, I was not there.

4066
03:33:58,560 --> 03:34:00,959
Speaker 2: I got sued by the NFL. That could have gone

4067
03:34:01,480 --> 03:34:06,160
Speaker 2: so bad and so wrong. I went bankrupt, not bankrupt,

4068
03:34:06,200 --> 03:34:08,800
Speaker 2: but I was balls broke. I didn't pay my mortgage

4069
03:34:08,840 --> 03:34:11,600
Speaker 2: for four years. They didn't come after me. Somehow I

4070
03:34:11,760 --> 03:34:13,879
Speaker 2: was able to just constantly talk on the phone every

4071
03:34:13,920 --> 03:34:15,840
Speaker 2: month to the people. I'm gonna make it happen. I'm

4072
03:34:15,840 --> 03:34:18,040
Speaker 2: not gonna beat you. I'm living here and i'm you know,

4073
03:34:18,600 --> 03:34:22,240
Speaker 2: playing the game. Outwardly, everything's okay. Inwardly, I'm fucking dying.

4074
03:34:22,840 --> 03:34:27,080
Speaker 2: Then I got a fucking modification and on my mortgage

4075
03:34:27,400 --> 03:34:30,480
Speaker 2: and I went there the next month for another three

4076
03:34:30,640 --> 03:34:32,680
Speaker 2: fucking years, and I was able to pull it off.

4077
03:34:33,160 --> 03:34:35,119
Speaker 2: So I had a six hundred and fifty thousand dollars mortgage.

4078
03:34:35,400 --> 03:34:38,400
Speaker 2: They put like a million one on Twitter. It was

4079
03:34:38,440 --> 03:34:42,240
Speaker 2: like a million seven. Right now, I owe like twelve

4080
03:34:42,240 --> 03:34:44,200
Speaker 2: payments left. I own the fucking house. Take a two

4081
03:34:44,200 --> 03:34:47,160
Speaker 2: million dollar house? Can I get it? I don't know how.

4082
03:34:47,959 --> 03:34:50,880
Speaker 2: So the point is that you have to believe in

4083
03:34:50,959 --> 03:34:55,520
Speaker 2: yourself unconditionally. You can't rely on no one. You really can't.

4084
03:34:55,560 --> 03:34:57,920
Speaker 2: Let people say it's great to have good friends and

4085
03:34:58,400 --> 03:35:02,320
Speaker 2: people to help you, Yes, but no, it has to

4086
03:35:02,440 --> 03:35:06,920
Speaker 2: come from you. You have to make your own life.

4087
03:35:07,320 --> 03:35:10,560
Speaker 2: You have to make your own success. You have to

4088
03:35:10,680 --> 03:35:13,320
Speaker 2: do it because there's so many fucking opportunities out there

4089
03:35:13,400 --> 03:35:15,879
Speaker 2: right now, especially with the Internet, you could reach the world.

4090
03:35:16,080 --> 03:35:19,000
Speaker 2: You got a good idea, it's easier than ever right now.

4091
03:35:19,560 --> 03:35:21,400
Speaker 2: But you still have to have the bulls to do it,

4092
03:35:21,720 --> 03:35:24,120
Speaker 2: and you have to be able to deal with the

4093
03:35:24,160 --> 03:35:26,760
Speaker 2: people that come after you say your low life, say

4094
03:35:26,800 --> 03:35:30,360
Speaker 2: you're a scum big the better you do. Listen, people

4095
03:35:30,720 --> 03:35:33,920
Speaker 2: hate people that are successful. They really are. It's nuts,

4096
03:35:34,320 --> 03:35:37,879
Speaker 2: it's fucking crazy, you know. Like people say, don't read

4097
03:35:37,920 --> 03:35:40,879
Speaker 2: the comments, Dave and Big Cat and PFT first time

4098
03:35:40,920 --> 03:35:43,920
Speaker 2: I met him, don't read comments. I read every fucking comment,

4099
03:35:44,560 --> 03:35:48,560
Speaker 2: every comment. I delete any fucking person that that fucking

4100
03:35:48,720 --> 03:35:51,560
Speaker 2: is a scumbig, I hide it and I delete it.

4101
03:35:52,520 --> 03:35:58,840
Speaker 2: Every comment, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, every fucking comment. I've never

4102
03:35:59,000 --> 03:36:01,880
Speaker 2: not read a comment because you're not gonna piss on

4103
03:36:02,040 --> 03:36:04,920
Speaker 2: me in my fucking house, and my social media is

4104
03:36:04,959 --> 03:36:07,880
Speaker 2: my fucking house. I worked hard at that, you know

4105
03:36:07,920 --> 03:36:10,280
Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm sixty three fucking years old. No

4106
03:36:10,680 --> 03:36:12,360
Speaker 2: one's ever said, hey, s too fine is the greatest

4107
03:36:12,360 --> 03:36:15,279
Speaker 2: guy ever, you know, like barstool loves me and that stuff.

4108
03:36:15,640 --> 03:36:20,360
Speaker 2: But no newspapers, no media fucking ESPN never picked me up.

4109
03:36:20,959 --> 03:36:24,000
Speaker 2: Fox never picked me up, No media outlever picked me up,

4110
03:36:24,280 --> 03:36:26,640
Speaker 2: No newspaper picked me up. As matter of fact, they

4111
03:36:27,959 --> 03:36:30,280
Speaker 2: tried to put me in my grave. So, in other words,

4112
03:36:30,840 --> 03:36:32,880
Speaker 2: I've dealt with a lot of adversary, but I'm not

4113
03:36:32,959 --> 03:36:35,440
Speaker 2: gonna read about it. You're gonna piss on me on

4114
03:36:35,560 --> 03:36:38,720
Speaker 2: my fucking on my social that's my backyard, that's my life.

4115
03:36:38,879 --> 03:36:41,040
Speaker 2: I built that up. I got one hundred and seventy

4116
03:36:41,080 --> 03:36:44,120
Speaker 2: thousand fucking followers on Twitter, and my Twitter has been

4117
03:36:44,160 --> 03:36:47,480
Speaker 2: taken down three fucking times, and I've been shadowed. I

4118
03:36:47,640 --> 03:36:51,120
Speaker 2: was the ultimate shadow band. They shadow banned me, they

4119
03:36:51,240 --> 03:36:53,879
Speaker 2: created the word to shadow band me. My Instagram has

4120
03:36:53,879 --> 03:36:55,400
Speaker 2: been taken down twice. I got one hundred and thirty

4121
03:36:55,440 --> 03:36:59,160
Speaker 2: five thousand followers on Instagram. Those are hard numbers, you

4122
03:36:59,240 --> 03:37:02,039
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Because I'm not deportingly I think

4123
03:37:02,080 --> 03:37:04,480
Speaker 2: I am, but I'm not. I'm not fucking big cat,

4124
03:37:04,600 --> 03:37:07,400
Speaker 2: not pft. I'm not you. I'm not you. You know

4125
03:37:07,400 --> 03:37:09,720
Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm really not. But I bring enough

4126
03:37:09,760 --> 03:37:12,720
Speaker 2: to the table that every day I work hard, every day.

4127
03:37:12,800 --> 03:37:15,880
Speaker 2: Everybody knows what I eat, what I do, when I

4128
03:37:15,959 --> 03:37:18,720
Speaker 2: take a shit, when I fuck my wife. And that's

4129
03:37:18,800 --> 03:37:22,920
Speaker 2: my game. So my point is that you don't rely

4130
03:37:23,080 --> 03:37:25,600
Speaker 2: on nobody. You want something to happen, you fucking do it.

4131
03:37:26,040 --> 03:37:29,160
Speaker 2: It's the barstool way. Barstol ain't gonna do shit for you.

4132
03:37:29,360 --> 03:37:32,120
Speaker 2: They're really not. You could work the forever and be

4133
03:37:32,240 --> 03:37:36,320
Speaker 2: a nobody and make no money. What did Brianna do? Brianna?

4134
03:37:36,640 --> 03:37:39,120
Speaker 2: Literally I remember it like it was fucking yesterday. She

4135
03:37:39,360 --> 03:37:42,600
Speaker 2: was some scared little fucking intern, and I went out

4136
03:37:42,600 --> 03:37:44,680
Speaker 2: of my way. I mean, obviously because she was beautiful,

4137
03:37:44,959 --> 03:37:47,120
Speaker 2: but just I mean, but she doesn't look like she

4138
03:37:47,560 --> 03:37:49,960
Speaker 2: did then now, you know. But I went out of

4139
03:37:50,000 --> 03:37:51,880
Speaker 2: my way to say, hey, Leke, you're gonna fucking be great.

4140
03:37:51,920 --> 03:37:54,680
Speaker 2: You give it one hundred percent, fucking two hundred percent,

4141
03:37:55,000 --> 03:37:57,720
Speaker 2: like anytime, like for example, people would walk into that office,

4142
03:37:57,760 --> 03:38:01,039
Speaker 2: and I watched it. It really told me, fucking crazy, Brianna,

4143
03:38:01,080 --> 03:38:02,960
Speaker 2: can I take a picture with you? Meanwhile, Grace is

4144
03:38:03,040 --> 03:38:06,640
Speaker 2: sitting right at the fucking desk next to her, and

4145
03:38:07,080 --> 03:38:09,880
Speaker 2: Grace never blinked. I watched a couple times she put

4146
03:38:09,920 --> 03:38:12,720
Speaker 2: her head her head down because you know, like she

4147
03:38:12,800 --> 03:38:15,199
Speaker 2: didn't get the buzz. Any time I took a picture

4148
03:38:15,240 --> 03:38:17,240
Speaker 2: of Brianna, I said, fucking Grace, come in the picture.

4149
03:38:17,600 --> 03:38:21,120
Speaker 2: So I'm aware, but again I'm sixty two years old.

4150
03:38:21,360 --> 03:38:24,480
Speaker 2: To be aware like that, you have to see a lot.

4151
03:38:24,760 --> 03:38:28,760
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot, so you know my message would be,

4152
03:38:28,959 --> 03:38:31,520
Speaker 2: like my model, My MO is to fucking you rely

4153
03:38:31,720 --> 03:38:34,920
Speaker 2: on yourself. You trust yourself. No one's better than you.

4154
03:38:35,560 --> 03:38:37,840
Speaker 2: My point that I was talking about when I started

4155
03:38:37,879 --> 03:38:42,000
Speaker 2: the business, me and saying, we worked nineteen hours a

4156
03:38:42,160 --> 03:38:48,760
Speaker 2: day for over fifteen years, seven days a week. There

4157
03:38:48,879 --> 03:38:51,160
Speaker 2: was no difference. I did not go to people's weddings.

4158
03:38:51,760 --> 03:38:54,080
Speaker 2: I did not go to people's birthday parties. I did

4159
03:38:54,160 --> 03:38:58,359
Speaker 2: not go to backyard barbecues. I fucking worked like an animal.

4160
03:38:59,400 --> 03:39:02,600
Speaker 2: So I know how it is to work. And you

4161
03:39:02,840 --> 03:39:06,800
Speaker 2: have to sacrifice, and the sacrifice is painful, and the

4162
03:39:06,879 --> 03:39:09,920
Speaker 2: sacrifice is deep, and you're going to lose friends and

4163
03:39:10,000 --> 03:39:13,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna lose friend tips. But to be successful, that's

4164
03:39:13,040 --> 03:39:16,200
Speaker 2: the presure back. That is similar to pricere pay and

4165
03:39:17,000 --> 03:39:21,800
Speaker 2: and people hate. Jealousy is crazy. It's fucking crazy. The

4166
03:39:21,879 --> 03:39:24,920
Speaker 2: better you do, the more people hate you. Well said,

4167
03:39:25,200 --> 03:39:29,680
Speaker 2: you know it's it's so that's my amo. Fuck man,

4168
03:39:30,320 --> 03:39:32,000
Speaker 2: it was great after you me and you probably put

4169
03:39:32,000 --> 03:39:33,680
Speaker 2: it in. There's two thirty eight right now. We probably

4170
03:39:33,680 --> 03:39:34,600
Speaker 2: put an eight minutes total.

4171
03:39:35,120 --> 03:39:35,840
Speaker 1: Always might be I.

4172
03:39:35,879 --> 03:39:38,840
Speaker 3: Think that would the under on that. Yeah, yeah, say

4173
03:39:38,840 --> 03:39:41,280
Speaker 3: maybe we thought for five minutes. It's incredible to hear

4174
03:39:41,280 --> 03:39:42,320
Speaker 3: your story and it's.

4175
03:39:42,200 --> 03:39:44,680
Speaker 2: Incredible at list. I'm so blessed, I really am.

4176
03:39:44,800 --> 03:39:46,720
Speaker 1: It means I know there's a lot of gaps and

4177
03:39:47,080 --> 03:39:48,200
Speaker 1: you go on and on and on.

4178
03:39:48,320 --> 03:39:50,400
Speaker 2: I can speak for another five you, no question, but

4179
03:39:50,440 --> 03:39:50,840
Speaker 2: I feel like.

4180
03:39:50,879 --> 03:39:52,520
Speaker 1: We've got a good front to back cover.

4181
03:39:52,680 --> 03:39:52,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

4182
03:39:52,920 --> 03:39:54,920
Speaker 2: And it was really and it can come back anytime.

4183
03:39:55,640 --> 03:39:57,600
Speaker 3: I remember meeting you and then now I didn't know

4184
03:39:58,160 --> 03:40:00,280
Speaker 3: obviously your background and all that, and will kind of

4185
03:40:00,280 --> 03:40:02,320
Speaker 3: film me in it was back in New York, and

4186
03:40:02,400 --> 03:40:05,280
Speaker 3: then obviously seeing you on Barstool Sports Advisors in the

4187
03:40:05,320 --> 03:40:08,000
Speaker 3: top dog energy. It's incredible to see you turn on

4188
03:40:08,080 --> 03:40:10,800
Speaker 3: the energy and also the gratitude. You're a very genuine

4189
03:40:10,840 --> 03:40:13,160
Speaker 3: person's it's very nice to finally get to know you

4190
03:40:13,160 --> 03:40:13,600
Speaker 3: a little bit.

4191
03:40:13,840 --> 03:40:14,120
Speaker 2: Thank you.

4192
03:40:14,320 --> 03:40:14,880
Speaker 1: This is awesome.

4193
03:40:15,000 --> 03:40:15,240
Speaker 2: Thank you.

4194
03:40:15,320 --> 03:40:18,400
Speaker 1: So the show was called initially The Sports Advisor.

4195
03:40:18,120 --> 03:40:22,200
Speaker 2: These Sports Advisors, and Dave said, I want to rebrand it.

4196
03:40:22,720 --> 03:40:24,280
Speaker 1: And you're the guy to deal with because we want

4197
03:40:24,320 --> 03:40:25,040
Speaker 1: to bring back all that.

4198
03:40:25,080 --> 03:40:27,440
Speaker 2: I want to bring back your show, you know, and

4199
03:40:27,560 --> 03:40:29,560
Speaker 2: he said, and he literally said to me, my son

4200
03:40:29,680 --> 03:40:32,160
Speaker 2: was still pissed to this fucking day. He said, what

4201
03:40:32,240 --> 03:40:35,600
Speaker 2: do you need? You know, meaning, how much money?

4202
03:40:35,640 --> 03:40:36,080
Speaker 3: What do you need?

4203
03:40:36,640 --> 03:40:38,720
Speaker 2: I was like, fucking Dave, can I run two commercials

4204
03:40:38,760 --> 03:40:40,800
Speaker 2: on the show like I used to? He goes, Yeah,

4205
03:40:40,800 --> 03:40:43,160
Speaker 2: he goes, That's all I fucking need because I'll make

4206
03:40:43,200 --> 03:40:46,600
Speaker 2: my own money. Like it's probably a bad move. I

4207
03:40:46,680 --> 03:40:49,000
Speaker 2: probably should have hit him for a salary, and then

4208
03:40:49,000 --> 03:40:50,720
Speaker 2: I would have probably got a couple million dollars worth

4209
03:40:50,760 --> 03:40:54,720
Speaker 2: of penstock. And you know I missed out on that

4210
03:40:55,080 --> 03:40:58,520
Speaker 2: because I'm not shocked like that. I'm just not, you know,

4211
03:40:58,920 --> 03:41:00,760
Speaker 2: I you know, I'm a quick to make a decision.

4212
03:41:01,920 --> 03:41:06,240
Speaker 2: But I was so grateful, you know too, I'm like,

4213
03:41:06,760 --> 03:41:10,920
Speaker 2: fucking Dave fort Noy just fucking called me. I gotta

4214
03:41:10,959 --> 03:41:13,760
Speaker 2: respect that, you know what I mean? And if I

4215
03:41:14,040 --> 03:41:17,760
Speaker 2: can't make my own way off of that, then I'm

4216
03:41:17,800 --> 03:41:20,240
Speaker 2: not too funny, you know. Then what the fuck I've

4217
03:41:20,280 --> 03:41:23,080
Speaker 2: been talking about my whole life, you know what I mean? So,

4218
03:41:23,320 --> 03:41:25,200
Speaker 2: I mean, so I got you guys the book. Bet

4219
03:41:25,280 --> 03:41:28,120
Speaker 2: you I can okay, This book, you know, tells the

4220
03:41:28,200 --> 03:41:30,680
Speaker 2: whole story. And then guys, I got two more here

4221
03:41:30,720 --> 03:41:33,800
Speaker 2: for you guys too, And then I got Then I

4222
03:41:33,879 --> 03:41:37,560
Speaker 2: got the cum towel, which is a fabulous piece of merchandise.

4223
03:41:38,080 --> 03:41:42,760
Speaker 2: Hello mister, Hello, Hello, Hello. And it's a great read.

4224
03:41:43,040 --> 03:41:45,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you take a ship and that book will

4225
03:41:45,360 --> 03:41:47,680
Speaker 2: be you know, an hour and a half. You got

4226
03:41:47,680 --> 03:41:49,480
Speaker 2: the whole fucking book under your under your belt. And

4227
03:41:49,520 --> 03:41:51,760
Speaker 2: then most of the time, you know, because you guys

4228
03:41:51,840 --> 03:41:54,800
Speaker 2: love gambling and love the roller coaster. It's a great story.

4229
03:41:54,800 --> 03:41:57,480
Speaker 2: You'll read it twice. It's just fucking great, you know.

4230
03:41:57,840 --> 03:41:59,320
Speaker 2: And then there's a lot of things I didn't talk

4231
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Speaker 2: about that are in the book. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, I didn't want to bring up. But you

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Speaker 2: know it's in the book. It's black and white. Everything

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Speaker 2: going to happen is black and white.

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Speaker 1: Read.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you, ma'am.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good read.

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Speaker 1: Speciate Uh yeah. You sharing all this with this my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Do you have fun on busting with the boys the best?

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Speaker 2: This is the fucking best.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: So pumped.

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Speaker 4: I remember listening to your episode on spint and Chicklets

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Speaker 4: actually and shut by the way, shut out the boys

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Speaker 4: for these jerseys. We just did a sambagger and a

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Speaker 4: podcast with them. Um, but I saw your interview on

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Speaker 4: Spin Chicklets. I was like, this dude's a fucking riot.

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Speaker 2: Those guys are the best. I fucking love them and

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Speaker 2: they love me. I love them. I mean, the grinders

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Speaker 2: the greatest. They fucking worked. They dick off, no issue,

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Speaker 2: no two ways about it.

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Speaker 3: Look the only way to be successful, right, There's no

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Speaker 3: other way.

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Speaker 2: To do it. Otherwise everyone be successful. People are not

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Speaker 2: willing to work seven days a week, twenty four hours

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Speaker 2: a day.

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Speaker 3: They really not.

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Speaker 2: And there's only way to do it. It's just not

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Speaker 2: and go work for someone and deal with it. True.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, brother, phenomenal podcast stars, thank you, Big Hooks,

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Speaker 3: Tony Kisses.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, good, okay, Yeah, that was awesome