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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. It feels like forever since uh,

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Season twenty aired, and now we're onto Bachelorette season.

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Speaker 1: I don't know which one of this is with Jojo.

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Speaker 1: What number is this, Ashley? What was Caitlin was at ten?

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Speaker 1: Geez ten? I think Jojo was eleven. That's just off

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Speaker 1: the top of my head. Okay, well, hey, it's JoJo's

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Speaker 1: season of the Bachelorette airing this week. We're gonna break

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Speaker 1: down her season. Uh you know, a little memory, uh memorial,

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Speaker 1: not a memorial that would be like if that I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess that season is over, so it could be

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Speaker 1: a more. But we're just gonna reflection on JoJo's season

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Speaker 1: of the Bachelor. It was a great season with a

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Speaker 1: great bachelorette who you and I both think the world of. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But first, as all, we'se we're gonna get into some

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Speaker 1: Bachelor hot topics. The list of hot topics this week

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Speaker 1: are some that I know nothing about. As usual, I

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Speaker 1: need you to educate me, and I'm reading the headlines

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Speaker 1: right now and I am incredibly intrigued. So Ashley, let's

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Speaker 1: start with Bachelor hot topics, and then we're gonna bring

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Speaker 1: on some of Joe Joe's uh men from the season.

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Speaker 1: The Bachelorette is set to resume production this according to

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Speaker 1: Variety dot Com and a lot of other sources. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I would say this is the number one hot topic

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Speaker 1: of the week people have asked for the past, you know,

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Speaker 1: three months when they're going to resume with filming The Bachelorette,

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Speaker 1: and the time is here. They won't be filming in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles County, however, they are shooting in a private

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Speaker 1: area in southern California. This is what Variety said. And everybody,

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Speaker 1: cass and crew will be quarantine, temperatures will be taken,

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Speaker 1: everything is obviously going to be isolated. Um, producers feel

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Speaker 1: be limited, and it's gonna be shot on a sound

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Speaker 1: stage basically. Yeah, you know, there's a lot of of

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Speaker 1: details still left. Yeah, it's still like, uh, a lot

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Speaker 1: of details have been left unsaid, but we can assume

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Speaker 1: that the show is right now working towards what is

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Speaker 1: a safe environment. I mean, similar to the PGA Tour,

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Speaker 1: which is one of our best you know, Nascar as well,

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Speaker 1: some of the best examples of public gatherings. At this point,

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Speaker 1: there's been massive precautions taking place, and everybody wants that

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Speaker 1: risk that everybody would get infected would be pretty high.

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Speaker 1: And so, as we just mentioned right now, the headline

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Speaker 1: is at the bachelrette and the production uh team around

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Speaker 1: that are resuming filming and talking about the details and

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Speaker 1: uh and that is more to come soon. But let's

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Speaker 1: stay with Claire for a bit. There's a couple of

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Speaker 1: other headlines that I think are important to touch on.

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Speaker 1: As Claire does begin to um, you know, look towards

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Speaker 1: the resuming of filming or the start of filming, she

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Speaker 1: had mids to googling her Bachelor at contestants and she

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Speaker 1: says she did it with zero Shane. Of course, zero Shaane.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is, I feel like half of those guys,

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Speaker 1: that is that what we're hearing is that they're gonna

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Speaker 1: totally recast again, completely vague, but I heard somewhere that

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Speaker 1: like it could be as little as ten guys originally.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we do know Matt James won't be there.

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Speaker 1: Matt James will not be there. He was originally announced

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Speaker 1: the part of Claire Crawley season, but we do know

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Speaker 1: now he is the next bachelor. So it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a limited number of men. It's gonna be uh in

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Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen virus. Now, actually, I want to get

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Speaker 1: your opinion. It's something I've been thinking about. Do you

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Speaker 1: think this new strategy of a bubble environment, maybe a

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Speaker 1: Do you see this being a problem for Claire and

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a benefit. One. She's gonna

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Speaker 1: new city. She's not going to have any like kitchen dates,

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Speaker 1: um they are going. I feel like it's just without

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Speaker 1: than your average lead, it's going to be very beneficial.

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Speaker 1: And hey, if I could even get if I have

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Speaker 1: I'd be very thankful for this style over that style,

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Speaker 1: I'll probably be making better decisions. Definitely, No, I mean

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Speaker 1: I mean they're going to have, like the content that

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Speaker 1: It's going to have to be the one on one date.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be the group date, It's gonna be the conversations.

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Speaker 1: And for me, that's what I enjoy about the show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: may have be able to see more in depth conversations

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Speaker 1: that aren't just bachelor speak, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like I think I'm falling in love with you, or

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Speaker 1: in real life. On the first couple of days, definitely well,

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Speaker 1: some things that are definitely needed for relationship. Right now,

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Speaker 1: you remember Ashley? And I know it's a very sensitive subject,

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Speaker 1: especially within the Bachelor world, but what did a Wan

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Speaker 1: Do you know this? Are you asking for your sake?

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Speaker 1: I I think I know it. Okay, so you guys

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Speaker 1: can beat this out. But he said, um, I really

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Speaker 1: definitely there's a reason why we don't hear from Jan

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Speaker 1: that is quite the name. And congratulations to Becka Martinez.

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Speaker 1: her pens tribute to Chris Lane as she reveals they've

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Speaker 1: And Lauren just got really emotional about this, and she

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Speaker 1: your good friend Carly Wattle and uh Evan Bass, who

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Speaker 1: want any more kids. We've always wondered if they're going

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Speaker 1: to or not, but they said they're done. Their exact quote,

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Speaker 1: this is when people won't believe me that it's not scripted,

427
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: like stuff like that's happening. You're like, nobody will ever

428
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: believe me that this chat is real? Yeah? Well yeah,

429
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: the best stuff was always I remember being like, where

430
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: are the cameras right now? There's one when we got

431
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 1: to Argentina and we ended up getting so drunk because

432
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: like the mal beck wine was the flowing. There was

433
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: no cameras, so we just sat and played poker for

434
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: like four hours straight and we got I got only

435
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: I can't speak for anybody else, but I got so

436
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,959
Speaker 1: and I remember a producer was like, you need to

437
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: go to bed, and I was like, and the next

438
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,719
Speaker 1: day was my one on one and that's why everyone

439
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: was like, WELLS looks nervous. I didn't. I wasn't nervous.

440
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: I was thinking I was gonna throw up, and soon

441
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: Wills went home. Well, you also talked about how you

442
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: thought that you were going to get the first impression

443
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: rose so much so that you actually stood up as

444
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: Jojo walk to you. Can we like know more about

445
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: what you guys talked about, because I feel like you

446
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: were in a focal point at that point. For Well,

447
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: the dialogue was is that like I had the best

448
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: intro amongst the guy that's not fair you brought a

449
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 1: band with you and I was like yeah, man, So

450
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: like that was the dialogue amongst the guys just in general.

451
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: And then we had like you don't see it, but

452
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: because like Daniel gets drunk and jumps in the pool

453
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: and like Jordan makes that with her, So there was

454
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: like bigger storylines. But I was followed around by all

455
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: for one the entire night. So, like I would walk around,

456
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: they'd just be singing acapella behind me, and I was

457
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: just like, this is badass. I got like this band

458
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: behind me. So when I hung out with Joe Joe, uh,

459
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: they were sitting behind us like serenading us. And she

460
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: was like, is this what your life is like? And

461
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: I was like, every day we got I got a

462
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: new band that just follows me around. We go to subway,

463
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: you order a sandwich, They'll be band singing in the background.

464
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: And she thought it was so funny, and I was like,

465
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: this is good. I had a good intro. We had

466
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: a really good conversation. I didn't know that like people

467
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: were making out with their night one like jumped. So

468
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I got this for sure. And so yeah,

469
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: when she comes around the corner, I get up and

470
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: I'm like and then walking and I was like, Okay,

471
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: it's awkward. Hurts. Uh, Well, well, you know you came

472
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: onto the show already, Uh with a very successful career

473
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: in Nashville as a radio host. Uh. You know, you

474
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: consistently gotten awards in Nashville for your time there and

475
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: then you come on this show and life is kind

476
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: of I mean, I think for anybody out there, this

477
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily has changed your life, it's enhanced it in

478
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: every way. For anybody out there that's kind of needing

479
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: caught up on what's gone on over the last what

480
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: is it four years since your time on the Bachelorette,

481
00:27:54,640 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: what's been going on? Uh? Did some laundry today of um,

482
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: what's been going on? So yeah, if you're not caught up.

483
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: I after my season the Bachelorette that I went on

484
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise where I ended up making out with

485
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: your co host here. Hi didn't work out, but I

486
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: ended up scoring like a pretty cushy gig with Uh.

487
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: With Paradise, they let me go back every year and

488
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: be the bartender and give advice and make drinks. Interrupting,

489
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: What was your favorite season to bartend for? I mean,

490
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: b I P four with my first season doing it

491
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: was the best, but it was also the worst because

492
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: it was the sea that there was the scandal and

493
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: the shutdown, but it was it was one of those

494
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: things that like you know, like tragedy and like chaos

495
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: kind of like really bond people. Um, and that's what

496
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 1: happened that season. We were all like really bonded because

497
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: we all went through a weird thing that like no

498
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: one hopefully will no one ever after experience again. But

499
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: we were like it was we were quarantined. We got

500
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: shut down for ten days. We couldn't do anything. We

501
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: had to all hang out together. There's no filming. That

502
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: was your first quarantine. I know it will say I

503
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: got good at quarantine. Then I remember because I live

504
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: in a different I live in like a different hotel

505
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: than everyone else does, and so it's like six days

506
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: I was all of myself and I remember calling up

507
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: alone and I was like one of the EPs, and

508
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, can I come hang out with everybody?

509
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm really lone me And they're like, oh, you're not

510
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: about you. Yeah, but anyways, Yeah, So I did the

511
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: Paradise Bar attending gig and then at some point in

512
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: the middle there, I convinced um a girl to get

513
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: engaged with me or named Sarah Highland you probably know

514
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: the show Modern Family. Um, we uh were happily engaged.

515
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: And then I'm just still working and doing you know,

516
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: podcasts and hosting gigs and all that kind of stuff,

517
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: staying busy. That's about it. I always talk about how

518
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: Ben really needed The Bachelor to find Jess because if

519
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: it weren't for him in his blue checkmark and you know,

520
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: being a reliable figure, she probably wouldn't have ever responded

521
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: to him on Instagram. Uh, do you and Sarah ever

522
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: go and think about ways that you would have possibly

523
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: met if it weren't for The Bachelor? Do you guys

524
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: think you would have found each other? I do not

525
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: think we would have found um because I've seen but

526
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: her d ms look like and it is crazy, So

527
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: there's no way that she would ever have seen me

528
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,719
Speaker 1: amongst the myriad of thirsty dudes out there. Okay, so

529
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: your blue checkmark really helped to but also her being

530
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: a Bachelor fan really helped. Yeah. I don't know if

531
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: the blue checkmark did anything. I think it was she

532
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: was a big fan of the show. She's like bascher

533
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: Nation since like day one. Um, and yeah, I think

534
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: that she she liked me. And then, um, I think

535
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: that she like when I became the bartender and was

536
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: like giving like sweet advice things. She really liked that.

537
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: And so she was the one who tweeted me first

538
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: and then I d M R after that, and then

539
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: you know, the rest is history. Oh man, it's crazy

540
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: to see. It's awesome to celebrate. Uh, well, we love

541
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: you here, we appreciate you. I do know you have

542
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: a project with I Heart going on right now. Uh

543
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: for anybody out there listening to him about it, Yeah,

544
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: I do. Um, I do a couple of different podcasts,

545
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: but they want to do if I Heart is called

546
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: Wells Cast, and um, it's really fun. So I'm I've

547
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: always been kind of fascinated with how people become successful,

548
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: whether you're a musician or an actor or what it

549
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: could be any a governor, it could be anything. Um.

550
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: I've always been super interested in the steps that people

551
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: have to take to get to those places because it

552
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: is and happen overnight. Like overnight, success does not exist

553
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: even when it seems like that. Uh, it takes years

554
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: and years of work. And and there's a lot of

555
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: people out there that asked me a question like, you know,

556
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: how did how did you get to this point? And yes,

557
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: like the Bachelor at helped move move things along maybe

558
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: fashion the normally would, but I worked really really hard

559
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: and radio and and I I grind it out and

560
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: I hustled and I did all that kind of stuff

561
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: and was, like you said earlier, it was a very

562
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: successful DJ in in Nashville. And uh, there's a lot

563
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: of really thingous people that have those stories that um,

564
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: I would like to I like to find out about

565
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: in showcase. And for those people out there trying to

566
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: figure out and hack the system and and and crack

567
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: the code as to how to become successful, it's a

568
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: good podcast for that. It shows, um the steps you

569
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: need to take and and the hustle and the drive

570
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: that you need to have to become successful. So if

571
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: you want to listen to that, it's called The Wells Cast,

572
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: and um it's fun. And then I also talked to

573
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: really really really funny people. We have comedians, musicians, actors, everything. Um,

574
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 1: so it's entertaining. Well, you're always entertaining. We love you dearly.

575
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: Congratulations on your relationship with Sarah and vice versa to Sarah.

576
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: She's a lucky girl, You're a lucky guy. And we

577
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: look forward to hearing the updates on when and how.

578
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: I know that. Uh, the COVID Night teen has changed

579
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: your plans quite a bit here recently, and so we'll

580
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: look forward to getting you back on soon with an

581
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: update on when and how you guys are going to

582
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: be getting married. With that, it's wells, Adams, Wells, thanks

583
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: for coming on. Thanks guys. Al Right, guys, we have

584
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: a Grant Kemp on the line. We haven't seen him

585
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: since his engagement to Lace. I'm Bachelor in Paradise. Welcome

586
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: to the podcast, Grant, Thank you, Thank you for having me.

587
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: I'm excited to be here. It's been a while since

588
00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: I've been able to talk to you guys. How you

589
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: guys doing. We're good? How are you good? I can't complain?

590
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: So what have you been doing over the past four years?

591
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: We we haven't seen you on any other Bachelor shows

592
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: and we're wondering what happened. Well, actually we did. I

593
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: did because you are a Bachelor in Paradise with Jared,

594
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: but most people don't know that. Um, your best Bachelor

595
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: in Paradise Australia with Jared. Yeah yeah. The last the

596
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: last show I did was Bachelor Paradise Australia. Was actually

597
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: their first season of it. Um, so yeah, I did

598
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: that show. I ended up leaving the show with a girl.

599
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: Things didn't end up working out. Um, I kind of

600
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: walked in on her cheating on me, But that's a

601
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: whole different story. Didn't she then become the bachelor right

602
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 1: in Australia? He did, actually, Yeah, So basically what happened

603
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: was the whole scandal went down in l A when

604
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: I when I flew her out, I walked in on

605
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: or cheating on me with one of my friends. And

606
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: then she flew back to Australia like the next day,

607
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: and like I could tell that the producers are kind

608
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: of had a plan for her to be the next bachelotte,

609
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: be cause they had asked her before, but she couldn't

610
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: do it because she had like a boyfriend or something

611
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: like that. And so I knew they had her like

612
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: kind of in the running for it if she were

613
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: to break up with me, And that's exactly what happened.

614
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: So they made her the next bachelorette. Um, and she

615
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: put out like a fake story about me, um to

616
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: try and cover up the fact that she cheated me.

617
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: It was yeah, it was already too late for them

618
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: to change who they chose as the bachelorette when my

619
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: side of the story came out. So um, yeah, I

620
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: mean she caught a whole bunch of heat for it,

621
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: and like all this stuff came out the first episode

622
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: of her season about her cheating on me and he

623
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: becoming old. Yeah, that was that was pretty hectic. I

624
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: was on the h Kyle and JACKIEO Show in Australia,

625
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: which is like basically the same thing. It's talking to

626
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Seacrests about how he got cheated on. So like

627
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: the whole country knew about it going into her season,

628
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: which was crazy. Wow, I'm surprised I didn't have you

629
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: make a little surprise appearance on her season after that. Yeah,

630
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: I mean it did come up, like it was such

631
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 1: a big deal that the users did have to make

632
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: people talk about it because guys were in the house

633
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: talking about it like, yo, she cheated on Grant like

634
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: blah blah blah it so it was such a thing

635
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: they had to have it be part of one of

636
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: the episodes and she ended up sending a bunch of

637
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: guys home because of it. Wow. Now, yeah, Grant, we

638
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: just recently had lace on the podcast and she admitted

639
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: to still having her her tattoo that do you still

640
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: have yours? Um, I don't, I don't have mine. I

641
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: actually actually covered it up when we broke up, I

642
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: covered up with the Black Rose ironically, but it's interesting. Yeah,

643
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: it was no shade against her, you know, I just

644
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: it would be moving on, you know what I mean.

645
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: I didn't really make a big deal of it, but

646
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: um yeah, I mean I technically still have it, but

647
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: it is covered up. When you think back on your

648
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: Bachelor experiences, is there anything that you would do differently

649
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: you know what? Actually, no, I mean I wouldn't. I

650
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't take back any of it. Um. I. I definitely

651
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: really am glad that I made the choice that I

652
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: did on the show. Um, I think I did the

653
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: right thing when it came to everything I did on

654
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: all the shows that I was on, you know, Um,

655
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: I was people people were kind of expecting me to

656
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: get engaged in Australia. When I left the show with

657
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: my expert, Jared definitely came back and he was like,

658
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: I think that Grant's gonna get engaged again. Yeah. No,

659
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't do that again, especially on TV,

660
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: unless it's like, you know, no, I just didn't take

661
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: that chance, and it's trying to take that chance once,

662
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: but it's like I don't know about taking it twice.

663
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: Especially not being as as confident with that relationship because

664
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: I was the first one. I mean, thank goodness he didn't, right, Yeah, yeah,

665
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: because what would happened before you came on? We had

666
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: wells on and we were talking about behind the scenes

667
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: with Chad, who has a huge part into you know

668
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: this episode. Yeah, do you have any other behind the

669
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: scenes crazy us from Chad like him eating park Bones

670
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: that we didn't see you on TV? Oh, like from

671
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: Jorjo's season. A lot. There's a lot that happened like

672
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: between us on Jujo's season and on Paradise too because

673
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: of the lates thing, you know what I mean, Because

674
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: they was talking to Chad before Paradise started, so that

675
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: was like a whole that stuff thing in the beginning

676
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: of that too. But I mean I think I don't know. Um,

677
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: remember there was there was a couple of moments in

678
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: the house in Pennsylvania when it was really early in

679
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: the morning and there was like no cameras, Like me

680
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: and Chatter were just arguing. It was like super heated,

681
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: and it ended before they could get a bunch of

682
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: cameras over there. But I remember we almost like fought

683
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 1: in the kitchen while somebody was like making vacant or something.

684
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: It almost like Chad obviously has a huge part uh

685
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: in the episode? Are are you two shocked by that

686
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: a little bit? I mean, I'm surprised that he was

687
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: such a focus. I mean, I don't know. I mean,

688
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: the way he does things is so explosive that it

689
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: made sense that, like he was a big part of

690
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: the episode, you know what I mean, just because he

691
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: caused so much commotion that it was kind of you know,

692
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: production couldn't really ignore that, right, Yeah, I have to agree.

693
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: When I think of Jojo season, I think of obviously

694
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: Jojo and Jordan, how sweet they are. But I also

695
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: then think about Chad, like I just think that he's

696
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: like the second man character, which is kind of unfortunate

697
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: for Jojo. Honest yeah, I mean he sort of was

698
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: because he knew how to mess with people and like

699
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: he he really knew how to get under people's skin.

700
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, it was entertaining, to

701
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: be honest, I mean, to have people blowing up like that,

702
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: people love the season on reality, you know, do you

703
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: think that he is the most villainous villain of Bachelor history? Honestly, yeah,

704
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, I'm not even gonna yeah,

705
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: because I can't. I mean, you have to think about

706
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: there's not really anybody else that's left that lasting of

707
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: an impression on a season, because you can't bring up

708
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: JoJo's season and not have some you say, oh what

709
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: about that chat? Guy like you? It's like it's like

710
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: the second thing people say after you hear the word

711
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: Jojo season, you know, the well, let's switch gears for

712
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: one second away from JoJo's season because we know that

713
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: life has moved on for you. Uh, we were familiar

714
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: with the fact that you have started a music career

715
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: that you've been working on now for a few years.

716
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: Has this always been a passion of yours? You know?

717
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: I know you just released a new single with James Kennedy.

718
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Where did this come from? Well, I've always

719
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 1: I've always made music almost my whole life. I've been

720
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: making music since I was like little, but um, I

721
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: just never I always did a bunch of songwriting and

722
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I never really released a song. Um

723
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: and after you know, being on a couple of seasons

724
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: of you know, our shows and stuff like that, I

725
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, why wouldn't I just use

726
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: this as an opportunity to just release some music, you know.

727
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 1: So every everything's been going really well. I'm actually super excited.

728
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: I have some collabs on the way with some some

729
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: pretty big artists that I'm super excited about. And yeah,

730
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: I mean things have have definitely been moving in the

731
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,959
Speaker 1: right direction. And like, I can't think the Bachelor Nation

732
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: enough for kind of giving me that platform and and

733
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: actually taking my music seriously when it comes to me,

734
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, not just doing reality TV and doing music

735
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: as well. You know, so I'm super happy about that.

736
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: Does your music career mean we will no longer see

737
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: you on any reality shows? Um? I mean, I don't know.

738
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say never. I mean there was a show

739
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: that that I, um, I was interviewing to be on

740
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: that wasn't on ABC, that I ended up not doing.

741
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: And then uh, there was actually supposed to be something

742
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: in May. Uh. I don't know if I'm allowed to

743
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: talk about it, but yeah, I mean it was Summer

744
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: Games I was I was planning on going on. Actually

745
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: you know that whole thing got canceled because of coronavirus.

746
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: You know, I mean I probably would have popped out,

747
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: and he did on another show. You know, but um, yeah, hey,

748
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 1: maybe summer games will happen next summer when the actual

749
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: Olympics happen. Yeah, would be awesome now, we hope. So

750
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: we'll grant thanks again, best of luck with your your

751
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: music pursuit. Thanks for coming on, thanks for giving us

752
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: your time. Alright, guys, I'll talk to you. And finally

753
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: the podcast today. Uh, we have a familiar name to

754
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: the almost famous team. It's Luke Pelle. Luke is joining

755
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: us right now. What's up dude? Hello? Hello, Hi, So Luke?

756
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 1: Is it weird to watch this season back? I still

757
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: watched it back thinking like, man, I don't know how

758
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: Luke didn't get to run her up, and I don't

759
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: know how he didn't become the Bachelor after this. Ah. Man,

760
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: there there's so many things we don't know about every season,

761
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: and they're full of surprises. No, it was, it's gonna

762
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: be cool. I don't really think I watched early the

763
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: first time around all the episodes because I was either like,

764
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: you're on Twitter or you're like talking with other people

765
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: watching it or whatever. So it'll be cool to kind

766
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: of watch the highlight reel. I guess tonight. So you

767
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: didn't watch when you're a season originally aired, why not?

768
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: Jared didn't really either. I feel I find that guys

769
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: don't watch more than girls don't watch. You know, I

770
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: had intentions of watching it, just there was so many

771
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: distractions that it just didn't I didn't. I got to

772
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: watch a little bit here and there, but it was

773
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: like snippets of it, and almost for me, it became

774
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 1: more entertained to watch it on Twitter as people would

775
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: like live tweet, throw up the memes like whatever that was.

776
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: It was very engaging on there, and then you know,

777
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: what was happening on TV was just enough to get

778
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of content to go back

779
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: to Twitter with it. It was kind of funny, are

780
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: you just I mean, when it comes to what's your

781
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: relationship with the show, does it still excite you or

782
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: is this something that you would rather have just never happened. No,

783
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: I would I would never go to the point of

784
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: saying I wish it never would happen. Um, you know,

785
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: obviously for me that it was up and then downs.

786
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: I was, you know, my first experience start of the

787
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: gay for this Bachelorettes, and I was so positive and

788
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: so fun and like I had you know, just a

789
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: coincidental you know, organic connection to Joe Joe and so

790
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: all those things uh that led up to my first

791
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: experience and made it up of that it was cool,

792
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: you know and fun and positive everything came out of it. Uh.

793
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: And then of course you know, went back for the

794
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: Old Winner Games experiment uh, and you know that was

795
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: overall it was a cool experience for me. But then

796
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: I had, you know that press at the end of

797
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: that in about a ten second um after show, uh snippet.

798
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: You know, I'm like falling, uh to a villain status almost,

799
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: So you know, I had to kind of weather that,

800
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,959
Speaker 1: you know, calculate what what's happened like is is what

801
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm being perceived as? Really who I am? Did I

802
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: do something wrong? Like all those kind of things. So

803
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: I was on both sides of the spectrum of having

804
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: a very positive experience and then a negative experience with it.

805
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: So um. But at the end of the day, I

806
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 1: think everything happens for a reason, and I'm so thankful

807
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: for you know, the time that I spent, you know,

808
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: shooting those shows and the relationships even more importantly that

809
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: that were built during that time. So, so did you

810
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: have any trepidations when they asked you to come on

811
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: and do an interview with Chris Harrison since the last

812
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: time you're on the show left, you know, uh, you're

813
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: feeling a little villainized. Um, I didn't really, you know,

814
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 1: I felt like, uh, it, time kind of goes by

815
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: these shows. There's ups and downs, and I think that

816
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, people, you know, it gets kind of gets

817
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: sensationalized sometimes like in the moment and then like three

818
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: years later, and unless people perpetuated on purpose, like you know,

819
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: there's like the guys like Chad Johnson who like decided

820
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: he wanted to be a professional villain for the rest

821
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: of his life, you know what I mean, Like if

822
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 1: you're just hey, you know, that was a time period.

823
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: That was an experience that we were all going through.

824
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: I may have said this or didn't say that or whatever.

825
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: Then you know, wounds wounds hill, and I think that

826
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: you're like, ah, you know, I was kind of cross

827
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: with you guys for a little bit. It might have

828
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: been bitter for a little bit, and then you know,

829
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean you get over it and like, yeah, that

830
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: was still a fun experience and I learned about myself

831
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be so Yeah, I was

832
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: excited to catch up with Chris. You know, it is

833
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: one of the things that have happened from the reunion

834
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: shows and the Bachelor Goats so far. This is giving

835
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: people a voice who maybe didn't have the best experience

836
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: on the show. And I think it's honestly, I think

837
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: it's such a positive thing. Comes to mind as you

838
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: Louke and Olivia, uh, you know, great people who need

839
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: that redemption. Yeah. Absolutely. I saw the clip um where

840
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: they actually had you and Olivia talking, uh from from

841
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: your season Ben, and and that was I had that

842
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: same revelation. I was like, Wow, this is actually really

843
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: cool because you know, I had talked to her through

844
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: the years about you know, she had some deeply rooted

845
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: uh you know, pain from the whole experience, and so

846
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: to kind of see that redemption door open and open

847
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: that conversation up, I think, what's such a healthy thing

848
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: and and and really cool that this is this is,

849
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, playing out like this. So the where do

850
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: you sit now? Then? I mean, what's your relationship status

851
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: are you? Are you out there mingling dating? Are you

852
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: in a relationship? Yeah? You know, so through it's it

853
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: it feels weird to talk about it because now everything's

854
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: coming back up, and so I kind of gotten used to,

855
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, having a private relationship, not being uh you know,

856
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: publicly criticized or whatever analyzed by my relationship status and whatnot.

857
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 1: Because I was in a two year relationship, um, somebody

858
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: who I love very much and and and made plans

859
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: for the future with and all those things, and um,

860
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 1: you know, a few months ago it kind of came

861
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: to a point where it didn't make sense anymore. And

862
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: of course we're going through you know, there's a lot

863
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: of things happening in life, and it's never you know,

864
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: just a cookie cutter situation. And we had COVID and lockdown,

865
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: and we're dealing with all these different things, um that

866
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: are going on. But uh, you know, uh, we we

867
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: decided to end that relationship, um, and and trying to

868
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: work on it for a while and do that that

869
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: thing and um. So yeah, so really I guess where

870
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm at currently. I'm working on myself. I'm just trying

871
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: to that that was a big, a big shift for me. Um.

872
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: It's not just you know, I was in I was

873
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: in a long term, very committed relationship, and so you know,

874
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm in a place where emotionally, I'm just trying to

875
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: just say, hey, what what is the next season of

876
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: life for me? Look like? How can I be prepared

877
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: for that? Um? You know, and and and be able

878
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: to be open and and and to move on you know,

879
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: and and so anyway, that's kind of where I'm at,

880
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: just working on myself and and focusing on on the

881
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: future right now. Did quarantine help you musically? Did you

882
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 1: have a lot of time to concentrate on that. Um?

883
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 1: I did get to do some work with the music

884
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: stuff during quarantine, of course. UM, you know, all the

885
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: publishing companies and things here in Nashville, we're taking precautions

886
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: and so instead of uh, you know, writer's meeting up, uh,

887
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: you're doing zoom rights and things like that. So that

888
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: actually made it a little tougher talk. I talked to

889
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: a lot of songwriters that were like, yeah, man, you know,

890
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: because it's kind of you kind of want to get

891
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: the chemistry right in the room. You've got two or

892
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: three people, but maybe you know each other, maybe you

893
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: haven't met before, and you're trying to say, oh, let's

894
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: write a song. And there's just so many little variables

895
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: that go into that and so uh the zoom you know,

896
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: piece of it did add some complications. But um, since then,

897
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, we've they've they've opened up the restrictions and

898
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: we've gotten back to uh being able to hang out

899
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: with other songwriters and and kind of do it like

900
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: we used to do. So Um, yeah, it's it's been

901
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 1: fun and been good overall, but uh, definitely uh tough

902
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: for Nashville as an industry and as a town, the

903
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: entertainment industry as a whole because of all the public

904
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: venue shutdowns and everything. Um, for all the guys that

905
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: were touring and all of that stuff. So and I

906
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: guess like you guys been were you'all were still doing

907
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: the Bachelor on the live on stage thing when this

908
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: pandemic happened. Oh yeah, man, I was twenty shows in

909
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: and rented my house out in Denver, got to move

910
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: back in with my parents for a bit. Life life

911
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: changed quickly for me. Oh my gosh, that's crazy. How

912
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: so how twenty shows of how many were we're on

913
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: the calendar sixties six stops? We uh, we went up twenty,

914
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: which is about the whole West coast. So we started

915
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: to work towards the Midwest, and we were going to

916
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: get to about thirty shows in the middle, you know,

917
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: in in the Midwest, and then starting the East coast again.

918
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: You know, So, Luke, I would love to say that

919
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: I am a touring expert. I'm unlike you yet. I'm trying,

920
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: but I do get a taste of it life on

921
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: the road. Yeah, it's an interesting, interesting experience for sure.

922
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, twenty that's a that's a lot of

923
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: You've got a good taste of it. You're only a

924
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: third of the way. But Luke, I want to end

925
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 1: on a very silly question. Your villain Chad, as we've

926
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: talked about, is now in the porn industry. How shocking

927
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,959
Speaker 1: or not shocking is this move? You know, I think

928
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, maybe that's a full circle moment

929
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: for Chad. Maybe he was destined for the porn and

930
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: this tree. I don't know. Uh, the chat that i've

931
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: you know, met on the Bachelor back then, you know,

932
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: you you could have told me he was in the

933
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: porn industry like when I met him, and I would

934
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: have believe right that was that was Jad Johnson. Um.

935
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't I wouldn't say that you

936
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: know who knows the best of luck to Chad and

937
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: whatever his aspirations in life are. I'm not one to

938
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: judge him, but that that sounds like a very interesting

939
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 1: career shift that he's taken on. But I actually look

940
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: and this is I don't think Ashley, we've ever actually

941
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: talked about Chad's on the career on the podcast. I

942
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: don't know why. I mean, it's maybe just because we

943
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: brush over it. But yes, that is uh that that

944
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: you know what? Hey, as we celebrate Joe Joe's season

945
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: of the Bachelorette and all of her men, we also, um,

946
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: we got to celebrate the successes of each Luke, we

947
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: celebrate your successes. We wish the best for you. Uh,

948
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on, Thanks for sharing your time

949
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: with almost From his podcast by Luke, I have a

950
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: great week. See hey, Ben, I thought that I should.

951
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: I can give you a little info as to how

952
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: Chad's life is going because I had him on the

953
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: where are we going with this? Actually I had him

954
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: on that how much do you know about where his

955
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: life is going? At ib on me? I don't get

956
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: a podcast about a month ago. And so he's moved

957
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: to Vegas and He's basically trying to be like the

958
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: Heffner of porn, where well, you know, I guess Hefner

959
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: was in charge of porn, but like more in like

960
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: a video centric way, and he um is trying to

961
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 1: like make a playboy house there, but like it would

962
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: be a porn house and like yeah, and then porn

963
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: stars come, they like rent a room, and then they're

964
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: like it's a whole house of porn. You know, Ash,

965
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot to say about this obviously.

966
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: You know, Chad's life and my life don't cross past

967
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: too often. He does randomly like tweet some weird stuff

968
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: to me when he gets angry at something, or you know,

969
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: he asked me to fight him, but I don't. I

970
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: don't really like keep up with Chad. It's you know,

971
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: it's I'd say. All I have to say to that

972
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: is this. One of the best parts about Bachelor Nation

973
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: is is everybody goes off and does their own individual

974
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: things post show, and we get to see that through

975
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 1: these recaps and reunions. Um is, we get to get

976
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of a sneak peek about where life

977
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: is at for all of these past contestants. But I'll

978
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: have to listen that. I'll listen to all very interesting.

979
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: D's never been anything but nice to me personally. Uh,

980
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: so we will turn it down and and he he

981
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: did not hold back. I got it's definitely an almost

982
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: ex rated podcast. You know, he's always been nice to me.

983
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: That's the part that's Uh, it's been surprising. Anytime he

984
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: came on the podcast here or when I've seen him

985
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: in person, he's always been Uh, he's been kind, you

986
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: know your way. Yeah. The tweets just always just the

987
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 1: tweets just always, you know, make me, make me giggle. Hey,

988
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: Ashley again, congratulations to Jojo Fletcher. Uh. Her and Jordan

989
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: Rodgers were supposed to be getting married this year, obviously,

990
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: as we saw an interview with Chris Harrison that has

991
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: been delayed due to covid um. But we celebrate Jojo.

992
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: She is a tremendous human with a kind soul, a

993
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: great heart. She's hilarious, she's one of a kind. She's

994
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: somebody that we both care about a ton uh and

995
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: as somebody that is iconic in the bachelor world and

996
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: will be forever. So Hey, congratulations with Jojo, and then

997
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: also congratulations with Jojo and Jordan's on their future relationship

998
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: and their future marriage. Hey, Ashley, great podcast, You're the best.

999
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week with another recap episode with

1000
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,720
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1001
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,440
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