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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Oh come back again out number three Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 2: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us

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Speaker 2: on this fantastic Monday as we roll through the blockbuster

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Speaker 2: revelations of Thursday, Friday and then the weekend and explain

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Speaker 2: to you why they matter so much. I am Clay

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Speaker 2: Travis buck Sexton left and is at the doctor right now.

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Speaker 2: He will be fine. He will be back with us

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Speaker 2: tomorrow and we will be back rolling.

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Speaker 1: As a duo.

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Speaker 2: For now, I'm going to finish out the program with

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Speaker 2: all of you. I'll open up phone lines eight hundred

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Speaker 2: I want on those calls. I want intelligent questions surrounding

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Speaker 2: the revelations that have come out about the Biden crime

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Speaker 2: family since Thursday, when the House Ways and Means Committee

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Speaker 2: released I think it's fair to characterize as blockbuster testimony

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Speaker 2: from a man named Gary Shapley and also from an

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Speaker 2: associate of his, as well as corroborating evidence to support

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Speaker 2: the allegations that he brought forward, which I believe are

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Speaker 2: so consequential Joe Biden will not be the nominee in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. I think that this is going to

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Speaker 2: continue to build, and I think it is going to

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Speaker 2: turn into such a consequential pyramid of lies that Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden is not going to be able to be the

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Speaker 2: nominee in twenty twenty four. Some people disagree. Buck in

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Speaker 2: the first hourcourage you to go listen to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: We discussed this. Buck does not think it's going to

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Speaker 2: rise to that level because he believes there is so

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Speaker 2: much lying that goes on associated with the Department of

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Speaker 2: Justice and this entire rubric that has been used to

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Speaker 2: protect democrats and positions of power. I understand that argument,

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Speaker 2: I disagree with it. A layout here where I think

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Speaker 2: we are headed will take some of your calls. We'll

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Speaker 2: have some fun here. I would encourage you, as always go

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Speaker 2: subscribe to the podcast. You can search out my name

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Speaker 2: Klay Travis. You can search out Buck Sexton. Click could subscribe.

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Speaker 2: I know it is travel season, it is vacation season.

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Speaker 2: A lot of moms, grandma's, aunts, uncles, everybody on the road,

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Speaker 2: and you may want to be able to take this

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Speaker 2: show with you wherever you may be across the.

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Speaker 1: Country or around the world.

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Speaker 2: You can do it with the podcast, or you can

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Speaker 2: also go download the iHeartRadio app and you will be

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Speaker 2: able to listen to us anywhere. That includes my dad, who,

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Speaker 2: at nearly seventy nine years old, just got an iPhone

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Speaker 2: and now can send text messages for the first time

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Speaker 2: in his life. Congrats Dad. He may even be able

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Speaker 2: and right now be streaming the show from his own phone, which,

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Speaker 2: as the Travis family would say, is an incredible accomplishment

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Speaker 2: because back in the day, my dad refused to let

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Speaker 2: us get a remote control for the television because he

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Speaker 2: was afraid that it would make us lazy if we

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Speaker 2: didn't have to get up and go change the station

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Speaker 2: by twisting the dial. We also had rotary telephones in

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Speaker 2: the Travis household for my entire young adulthood and all

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Speaker 2: the way up till I've left for college. So we

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Speaker 2: of an earth shattering moment. Only took them about twenty years,

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Speaker 2: all right, So let's break down exactly what we got

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Speaker 2: going on here, and by the way, questions smart questions

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Speaker 2: too eight hundred and two two two eight a two

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Speaker 2: Because I'm always in my head, So all of you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm always in my head trying to figure out how

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Speaker 2: to convince people of the stories that matter and why

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Speaker 2: the arguments that we're making are correct. So I'm always

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Speaker 2: thinking to myself, how do I win? How do I

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Speaker 2: win an argument? You persuade a jury, how do you

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Speaker 2: win an election? You persuade the majority of the people

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Speaker 2: out there voting that your argument for any particular case.

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Speaker 2: In fact, the entirety of any campaign is just a

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Speaker 2: storytelling contest, right who can tell the most captivating and

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Speaker 2: person to be the ultimate decider of every major issue

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Speaker 2: in America for the next four years. Every presidential election

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Speaker 2: I would submit to you is just a storytelling contest.

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Speaker 2: And ultimately, every single crisis, every single major conflict, every

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Speaker 2: and you either believe it or you don't. So let's

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Speaker 2: start here. There are two compelling stories that are being told, Okay,

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Speaker 2: every act. There's three stories, right, his story, her story,

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Speaker 2: His story, her story, the truth, three versions of the truth.

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Speaker 2: Here I would submit to you these stories are such

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Speaker 1: So which one is true? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Here are the two story tellers, one storyteller, Joe Biden,

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Speaker 2: Merrick Garland, Hunter Biden. Their story is this. This is

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Speaker 2: the story that Democrats would tell you. Hunter Biden, drug

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Speaker 2: so many different American foreign adversaries, from whom Hunter Biden

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Speaker 2: pocketed tens of millions of dollars for himself and entities

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden is a beloved father, and all he was

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Speaker 2: trying to do was make sure that Hunter wasn't addicted

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Speaker 2: to drugs. And Joe Biden was never involved in any

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Speaker 2: of the millions of dollars that Hunter Biden made, never

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Speaker 2: knew anything about Hunter Biden's business interest And when Joe

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Speaker 2: don't want to be involved in anything relating to my

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Speaker 2: son or any investigation surrounding him. Merrick Garland, you are

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Speaker 2: a steward of American public life. I know that you

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Speaker 2: care only about doing the right thing. You and your

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Speaker 2: Department of Justice conduct this investigation without any unfair or

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Speaker 2: bias treatment in my son's direction.

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Speaker 1: I trust you to do that. Joe Biden said that.

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Speaker 2: Merrick Garland said, you got it, Joe, I'm never going

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Speaker 2: to consider the fact that your son is a drug

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Speaker 1: I am going to.

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Speaker 2: Apply the full scope of American justice to Hunter Biden,

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Speaker 2: and we are going to treat him the exact same

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Speaker 2: as we would anybody else. There will be no preferential treatment,

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Speaker 2: no sweetheart deal. I will not be involved at all

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Speaker 2: in managing this investigation.

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Speaker 1: And lo and behold after five years five years.

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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden gets an absolute sweetheart of a deal. He

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Speaker 1: Okay, that is one story.

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Speaker 2: That is the story that Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Merrick Garland,

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Speaker 2: you find that to be an uncompelling story. Okay, that's

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Speaker 2: their story. Other story, thanks to the fact that Gary

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Speaker 2: Gary Shapley has come forward and said that the entire

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Speaker 1: Investigation was rigged.

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Speaker 2: That everything inside of your government that your taxpayer funded

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Speaker 2: an independent investigation. That David Weiss told Shapley and six

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Speaker 2: charges in both California and Washington d C. Against Hunter Biden,

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Speaker 2: that that had been rejected by the Department of Justice,

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Speaker 2: And that there was in fact not an impartial and

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Speaker 2: That in the words and I'm reading from the Wall

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Speaker 2: be held accountable for twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen tax crimes.

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Speaker 1: They allowed hunter.

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Speaker 1: Now those are the two stories, right.

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Speaker 2: You can have an opinion on which story you consider

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Speaker 2: considering those two stories. You have to consider the motivations

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Speaker 2: Misbehavior associated with our child would not lead to consequences.

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Speaker 2: Because that is certainly a motive of Joe Biden, that

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Speaker 2: would be pretty significant motivation to why why would Merit

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Speaker 2: young man who is more likely to lie. Conflicting stories here,

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Speaker 2: both of them can't be telling the truth. The person

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Speaker 2: individuals Biden and Garland, who might well be in prison

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Speaker 2: It's not always the case that a liar is easy

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Speaker 2: those apply to Biden and Garland and Hunter. None of

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Speaker 2: them that I can see, really apply to Shapley, two stories.

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Speaker 2: One person is telling the truth, someone else's lying. Who

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Speaker 2: they are guilty of the biggest lies in any of

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Speaker 2: Prosecuting the case against Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Merrick Garland,

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Speaker 1: So what should happen?

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Speaker 1: It's a big part of this discussion. Okay. Now, let's

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Speaker 2: That is, Hunter Biden got a sweetheart deal predicated on

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Speaker 2: Her name is Mary Ellen Norieka and I might not

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Speaker 2: This is not a very complicated case. All of the

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Speaker 1: Going to cover these allegations.

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Speaker 2: They are propagandists protecting the Biden regime. They aren't going

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Speaker 2: impeachment hearings will be covered. They did it with jan six,

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Speaker 1: Force people to cover it.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is where if you heard Buck and I

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Speaker 1: People are busy. I've got three kids.

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Speaker 2: If I didn't do what I do for a living,

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Speaker 1: But this is politics, man, this is nasty. You either

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Speaker 2: This is not a tough call. You look, I laid

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Speaker 2: worst Attorney General in United States history. That's going to

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Speaker 2: be his legacy because I think he is a total

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Speaker 2: whimp and I think he has been run roughshod over

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Speaker 2: by the Biden White House, and he has allowed Hunter

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Speaker 2: Biden to get a breath taking Lee breathtaking Lee corre

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Speaker 2: plea deal because he insisted that there be no consequences

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Speaker 2: for the Biden crime family. Effectively, Merrick Garland is, in

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Speaker 2: my always humble opinion, the equivalent of a mob boss.

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Speaker 1: Lawyer.

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Speaker 2: He's out there doing the dirty work to make sure

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Speaker 2: that his criminal syndicate doesn't go down. That's Merrick Garland.

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Speaker 2: So are you going to hold them accountable? The judge

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Speaker 2: shouldn't allow the plea agreement, which in my opinion, would

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Speaker 2: lead to the appointment of an independent special counsel.

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Speaker 1: Does that judge?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 1: What we're talking about here is spine balls, the willingness and.

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Speaker 2: Ability to stand up to people in positions of power

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Speaker 2: and say I'm going to do the right thing. Does

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Speaker 2: the judge have balls? Does Kevin McCarthy have balls? Does

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Speaker 2: the Republican Party have the testicular fortitude to do what

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Speaker 2: must be done? I know a lot of you out

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Speaker 2: there saying I don't know kind of feel the same way.

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Speaker 2: But it's not a hard call. It's an easy choice.

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Speaker 2: Must be impeachment of both Merrick Garland and Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: And also there absolutely positively must be a rejection of

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Speaker 2: this plea agreement. That's what must happen based on the

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Speaker 2: evidence that is outstanding right now. It's not a hard call.

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Speaker 2: It is a challenging call to stand up to people

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Speaker 2: in positions of power, but the actual facts and the

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Speaker 2: law it's not remotely complicated. I'll close out with your calls,

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Speaker 2: fire away with whatever questions you may have. Appreciate all

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Speaker 2: of your calls, as I promised I would some. Let

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Speaker 2: me go ahead and pull these up in front of me,

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Speaker 2: and let's start with Jim in Denver.

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Speaker 1: Jim, what you got for me?

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. Clay, Hey, you just alluded to it when

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Speaker 3: I call it the call screener. My question was is

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Speaker 3: it legal for the judge overseeing the Hunter Biden plea

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Speaker 3: deal to put the deal on pause depending all this

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Speaker 3: new revelations last week?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Not only is it, thank you for the call. Not

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Speaker 2: only is it legal, I think it's legally imperative that

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Speaker 2: she do so. Again, the judge has to sign off

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Speaker 2: on the deal that has been reached between the United

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Speaker 2: States government and Hunter Biden and his attorneys. Given the

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Speaker 2: revelations that have come out from Gary Shapley that specifically

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Speaker 2: say that this was not an independent investigation, in fact,

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Speaker 2: that the investigation was obstructed in favor of Hunter Biden,

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Speaker 2: I do not understand how any federal judge in the

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Speaker 2: country could sign off on this plea agreement. I think

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Speaker 2: she must reject it, and I think the likely outcome

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Speaker 2: of a rejection would be a newly appointed special counsel.

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Speaker 2: I think that Merrick Garland would have to recuse himself,

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Speaker 2: given that he might well and should be under impeachment

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Speaker 2: proceedings himself. Therefore, he would not be able to oversee

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Speaker 2: this at all. That to me is the natural result

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Speaker 2: if this federal judge, who is a Trump appointed federal judge.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you her name one more time, because she

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Speaker 2: is in position to rectify this injustice. Mary Ellen Noriyaika.

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Speaker 2: I might be mispronouncing her last name. If so, I apologize.

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Speaker 2: I do not know her, but she was appointed by

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump in August of twenty eighteen. She took office.

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Speaker 2: She has been there for almost five years. She has

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Speaker 2: to sign off on this plea agreement.

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Speaker 1: She should not.

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Speaker 2: Do it at all. Okay, who is up next? Who

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Speaker 2: should I take next?

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Speaker 1: To you?

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Speaker 2: Owl in Johnson City, Tennessee?

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Speaker 1: Which got for us?

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Speaker 4: Hey? Hey Clay, Yeah, I was kind of ask something

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Speaker 4: similar based on what you said. If this judge rejects

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Speaker 4: this plea, and let's say Marrek Garland and Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: they start facing impeachment, would who would appoint the Special

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Speaker 4: Council at that point? Because that's I mean, does the

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Speaker 4: House do that or.

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Speaker 1: Who would be So it's a great question.

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Speaker 2: I am not an expert to be fair in the

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Speaker 2: Independent Council Statute. My understanding is that the Independent Council

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Speaker 2: Statute is designed to deal with executive branch conflicts, and

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Speaker 2: therefore it would need to be appointed by someone in

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Speaker 2: the executive branch.

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Speaker 1: Now, there's nothing to prohibit. In fact, that is what.

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Speaker 2: An impeachment investigation and trial would be from the legislative branch,

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Speaker 2: effectively undertaking their own investigation.

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Speaker 1: Right, So, that is what impeachment would be.

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Speaker 2: It's why it's important, it's why it needs to be

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Speaker 2: in primetime, much like the January six hearings were. And

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Speaker 2: for those out of you out there that say, well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the point of the impeachment would be.

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Speaker 2: It's because people get influenced by it. Right, You and

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Speaker 2: me and many of the people out there in the

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Speaker 2: country knew, having studied and paid attention to the January

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Speaker 2: sixth cases, that the January sixth primetime hearings were a

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Speaker 2: show trial designed to effectively be a third impeachment trial

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Speaker 2: of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: But they weren't.

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Speaker 2: Some independent voters tuned in and were influenced enough that

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Speaker 2: Democrats did not suffer the drubbing that many, including me,

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Speaker 2: thought they would in the twenty twenty two midterms. I

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Speaker 2: think that's because Democrats adroitly carried the message of democracy

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Speaker 2: in peril through the primetime hearing surrounding January sixth. There

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Speaker 2: are lots of persuadable people out there who know nothing

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Speaker 2: about Hunter Biden, who know nothing about Joe Biden, who

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Speaker 2: still think, if they know anything about the laptop at all,

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Speaker 2: that it was Russian disinformation. We have to correct those

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Speaker 2: people's misapprehensions, their belief in falsehoods. That's what a prime

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Speaker 2: time impeachment hearing of Merrick Garland and Joe Biden would do.

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Speaker 2: Not going to get removed from office, but it helps

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Speaker 2: to tell the story that otherwise is not being told

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Speaker 2: by mainstream propaganda media still trying to protect Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: Kurt in Tarahoe, Indiana. What you got for us?

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Speaker 5: Hey, thanks taking my carl to your point, I believe

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Speaker 5: that everything you said is absolutely true. As a black

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Speaker 5: conservative here in the Midwest. One of the things I'm

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Speaker 5: concerned about is to your point, again, that wouldn't it

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Speaker 5: take something like an impeachment to get all of this exposed?

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Speaker 5: There are a whole lot of people of my skit,

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Speaker 5: of my race who are still horsewoveled by. If you

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Speaker 5: don't vote from me, you're not black Biden yep, and

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Speaker 5: probably for the crook that he is, that the crime

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Speaker 5: boss that he is.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 4: That's all.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the call, Thank you for listening to

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Speaker 2: give you a heads up. Wesley Hunt is going to

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Speaker 2: join us. He's a Texas congressman west Point Grad. He

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Speaker 2: made this exact case. He shared several different black famous

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Speaker 2: individuals that were accused of crimes very similar to Hunter Biden,

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Speaker 2: except they actually went to prison for them. You want

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Speaker 2: to talk about how much the rig job was in

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Speaker 2: He's going to talk to you about some of those

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Speaker 2: famous individuals charged with very similar crimes to Hunter Biden

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Speaker 2: tax evasion. They got sent to prison, some of them

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Speaker 2: for years. I think that's something that cuts through the

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Speaker 2: noise for a lot of independent black voters. Remember a

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Speaker 2: lot of black men out there open to Republican arguments

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Speaker 2: like our last caller.

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Speaker 1: Big discussion tomorrow,