1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Phill Hi, this is Chase U Lee. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: This is the Phillies Show. Rubin Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: Todd z Olecki. Hi, everybody, It's the Philly Show. It's Friday, 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: Friday morning, January twenty third, twenty twenty six. Ruben, you 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: are on Simon in Clearwater. 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: I'm sorry folks for a few folks who I know. 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: Is a nice day yesterday? What fifty degrees? 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: I know you're getting smoked with some serious weather here 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: coming up. I'm in Clearwater. I'm probably gonna get stranded 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: here on Sunday, probably have to come back on Monday. 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: Not sure, but I will tell you this, it's gorgeous here. 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Be jellous, be jelly jellie. 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 2: We are. We are preparing for the snow up here. 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: We asked you guys on Thursday for your Phillies questions, 15 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: and I can tell you we got more questions for 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: this episode than we ever have for any time we've 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: asked for questions. I think that talks about the show, 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: but also just fans have a lot of questions about 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: the Phillies offseason, and so let's jump right into it. 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: And what would what would you guess was the number 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: one topic or the theme of it was are they 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: really content? Or the Phillies really content? So I want 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: to go over some of these questions and get your guys' 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: opinions on them. All right, this is well, start with 25 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: Intimidator twenty one on X why after having two hundred 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: million dollars available for Bobashett, are they content with what 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: they have? It's a blatant lie. They are not serious 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: about winning, Jim, I'm going to start with you. 29 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 4: Well, I actually I don't think they're content. I think 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 4: that's GM speak. I don't think any good competitor in 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 4: any field, especially athletics, is content until you're riding down 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 4: Broad Street holding up a trophy and brushing off confetti 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 4: off your shoulders. So I think that was GM speak. 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 4: And I'm kind of a I judge a guy by 35 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 4: actions more than words. I mean, they made a play 36 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 4: for Bobachett. That told you right there they weren't content 37 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 4: with their offense, So I think you'll uh. And as 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 4: far as having that money ear mark for bow and 39 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 4: then not using it elsewhere, part of it went to JT. 40 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 4: And I think they'll have other budget if they need 41 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: to tweaker around the edges. But I'm not content. The 42 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 4: fans are not content. And I'll tell you what, I 43 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 4: don't think they're content. I think that was gmsp Gruben. 44 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they're content either. 45 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: I think it was more of a matter of you know, 46 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: and I'll speak on behalf of uh, you know, maybe 47 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: Topper and you know, talking about you know, some of 48 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: the new players and the fact that they've brought in 49 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: some they're gonna be bringing in some and using some 50 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 3: young players. That's great, But what is the manager really 51 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: going to say publicly? Is he going to slap the 52 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: front office in the face and say, you know what, 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: I don't like this team. 54 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: This is terrible. 55 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just not gonna happen. I'm sure that 56 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 3: the manager and the front office and everybody in that 57 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: organization would like to have done more war in this offseason. 58 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: I was surprised, frankly, and I talked about it before 59 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 3: the season was over, before the offseason excuse me started 60 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: that they were gonna have to change things around, and 61 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: they and they probably should, but they haven't been able 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 3: to do that. They did bring back two very good 63 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: players and that they already had obviously you know, people 64 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: are gonna be saying they ran it back, which is 65 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: by and large pretty true. The fact of the matter is, though, 66 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: that they did improve their bullpen. I do think that 67 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: they've made some changes and they are bringing in a 68 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: decent young prospect that they're hopeful can can be an 69 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: everyday player. But I am sure, knowing that front office 70 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: and knowing Dave Dombrowski, that they would have loved, loved 71 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: to have done more. 72 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely so, it'll just to give you a kind of 73 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: a gist of some of the other content theme questions 74 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: we've got de Volver I r n X. It's clear 75 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: that the most the Phillies are bringing worst roster into 76 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Why would they say they feel good 77 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: about their chances? Jim you mentioned, he already addressed this. 78 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: He said, are they seeing something we do not? Or 79 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: is it just GM speak to calm down the heat? 80 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: Danny c on X. 81 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 2: Do the Phillies really think us fans are that stupid 82 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: that we aren't going to notice they're running it back? 83 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: Nick LEBLOCKI on X. You get the gist by now. 84 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: Why are the Phillies scared to make moves? There's no 85 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: excuse for this offseason. It's been a continuous trend. Now 86 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: Steve Garrison on Facebook, are you guys con Are you 87 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: guys content with the team the way it is because 88 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: the fans are not mean? 89 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like to have seen them. You know, we 90 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 4: started talking about Boba Shed like on November first, like 91 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: before the you know, the World Series barely ended. We 92 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 4: were talking about what a good fit he was. So 93 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 4: you don't get him, You don't augment the lineup, you 94 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 4: don't get that right handed back you're looking for. How 95 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 4: can you could be content? But at least, at least 96 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: if they're running it back, they're running back a pretty 97 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 4: good pitching staff, a pretty good offense, a team that 98 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 4: won ninety six games, not running back a seventy two 99 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 4: win team. Right, you know, they're not buried in some 100 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: type of rebuild. They're still gonna have a chance. They're 101 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 4: still gonna be one of the top six teams in 102 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 4: the National League. I'd be stunned if not in the postseason. 103 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 4: And it's about not making errors and running the base 104 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 4: is better, and not pressing and pressing your way right 105 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 4: out of October and gripping the bat handle. I'm not 106 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 4: doing anything. Leave a ton of runners on in scoring position. 107 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 4: It's about performing in October. Yeah, Ruben, go ahead. 108 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Okay, So Rubin, this is the 109 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: last one that you could you could kind of maybe 110 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: answer this. This is from Sean Siffel on Facebook. Does 111 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: the front office have internal discussions about how unhappy their 112 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 2: fan base truly is? I don't mean this sarcastically. Is 113 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: it something that is discussed. They obviously tried to get Bashett, 114 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: but when that fell through, it feels like they just 115 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: paniced to re sign real Muto and then gave up. 116 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: So generally speaking, do you guys in the office, when 117 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 2: you're in your war room or in your office, go, 118 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: oh my god, man, fans are pod right now, Rubin? 119 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 2: As I imagine that is at least mentioned, even if. 120 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: I think it's discussed. 121 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: But I don't think that you don't make moves because 122 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: the fans are pissed off. You make moves because you 123 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: want to try to make the team better. Your job 124 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: is to make your team better at all costs and 125 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: and do what you can within your parameters. You know, 126 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: it's obvious that you know, Bobaschett was like an added 127 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 3: piece and extra piece a special piece. And and you know, 128 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: as far as you know, as the money is concerned, 129 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 3: they'd be willing to like bite the bullet, you know, 130 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: financially a little bit more on the player like that. 131 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: But it had to be the right fit for them, 132 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: you know, the Bellingers of the world and the Tuckers 133 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: of the world. Putting that kind of money into a 134 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: player like that, I don't think it was the right 135 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: fit for them for the money. Bobachhett under the circumstances 136 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 3: was and uh And I think that that's why they 137 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: were making a run at him. I don't know that 138 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 3: the JT thing was necessarily a panic move. Was certainly 139 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 3: a move that they had to make because they needed 140 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: that freaking catcher who could who could you know, manage 141 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: this this ball club. 142 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: And he's a really good one. 143 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: I see so many folks on social media talking about 144 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: his decline as far as you know, blocking and framing 145 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: and all this. Bs the man is one of the 146 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: best and most athletic catchers in the game, ok, folks 147 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: in the game. And he's also one of the most 148 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: dedicated leaders of this team. 149 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: That means a lot. 150 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: You don't put hard to put a price on that 151 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: did they overpay for him, Yes, do they have the player, Yes, 152 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: it is important that he's on the on the team, Yes, 153 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: and uh and I think he does make them a 154 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: better player. Regardless of his decline offensively, the man is 155 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: an outstanding defender and he is dedicated to winning baseball 156 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: games and has proven that he can win. 157 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: Well said, Well said, I that that word jumped out 158 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 4: at me panic sign. It was not a panic signing 159 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 4: if you did not have this guy. Look, I would 160 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 4: love to have that over Shed. I'd love to have 161 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 4: had him both. But you know, if you don't have 162 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 4: d T, you're gonna miss him enormously. You can argue 163 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 4: that third year is going to be difficult to swallow, 164 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: but you're trying to win the World Series in twenty 165 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 4: twenty six. You need that guy behind the plate. There's 166 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 4: more to this game than offense. It's nice, it glitters, 167 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 4: it's what you get paid for. But the little things 168 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: that guy does are pretty amazing. Todd and I went 169 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 4: up to Lehigh Valley last night and Topper was up 170 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 4: there and he just said, you know, if you have 171 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 4: a catcher with bad body langu whige, he can undo 172 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: your whole team and JT's body language is so good 173 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 4: and he never panics, and the team feeds off that, 174 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 4: and that's a good thing. 175 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: That's great. 176 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: You just say this. 177 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,359 Speaker 3: Let me just say this because I'm getting on my soapbox. 178 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: There's no player on the team that is more important 179 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: than the catcher. Okay, he is involved. If he's an 180 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: everyday catcher, he's involved in every single play of the 181 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: game on the defensive side of the ball, and he 182 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 3: controlled what happens on the field with your pitcher, it 183 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: is something that is so essential to the success of 184 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: a team. You don't have a good catcher, you know, somebody, 185 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 3: have somebody who can run a game. 186 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: You are done. 187 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: Okay, that's the fact. 188 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: All the teams that have success have guys who can 189 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: run a game and command that position well. And JT 190 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: is an important part of what the Phillies' success has 191 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: been and why they've been successful over the last few years. 192 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: How many times have you heard a pitcher say I 193 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: did shake off JT once all game? Or how many 194 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: times have you heard a pitcher say, I only shook 195 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: off JT once and that's when I threw that fastball 196 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: and they got hit into the left field seats and 197 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: I won't do that ever again. 198 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 4: So and how many times does Zach Wheeler say, I've 199 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 4: gotten better because of JT real mudo because I can 200 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 4: put all my focus on it, executing the pitch, because 201 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 4: I know when there's a runner on first base, he's 202 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 4: got it. 203 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: I don't absolutely. So if you're watching us on YouTube, 204 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: we're almost at ten thousand subscribers, please hit the subscribe 205 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: button and help support the show, and of course go 206 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 2: to the Philly showshop dot com. But Jimmy, you mentioned 207 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: the Lehigh Valley event last night was great. We went 208 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: up there, saw some friends, chatted a little bit, great event, 209 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: a lot of fun. We talked to Toper for a 210 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: little bit, talked to Tom McCarthy was up there. Uh 211 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: talk with those guys, and yeah that and Preston Mantically 212 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: was up there and yeah, that was a great little 213 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: comment by Robbie that during a Q and A about 214 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: JT body language, no panic, that's why he's so important. 215 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: And JT when they did announce him being re signed, 216 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: there was in that audience at least there was one 217 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: big loudhoot. Somebody was a real big JT fan in 218 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: that audience. So I want to mention that. All right, 219 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 2: So all the other questions pretty much fit into like 220 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: two buckets. The rest of the way, about the outfield 221 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 2: and about the starting rotation. Where do you guys want 222 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: to start? Well, ask a few on these any preference. 223 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 4: Get the uh, We'll get the painful stuff out of 224 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 4: the way first, go with the outfields. 225 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: With the field stuff. Okay, So this is from This 226 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: is from Aaron Wheeler on Facebook, and I think you 227 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: know one of us can answer this question in one sentence. 228 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: Being this late into the offseason, could you see the 229 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,479 Speaker 2: Phillies just keeping net Castiano's for a trade to be facilitated, 230 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: you'd have to eat almost all of his twenty million dollars. 231 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: And I'd rather just have him platoon and left with 232 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: Brandon Marsh At this point, he will be a zero. 233 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: That would be I would say, there's a zero. 234 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: That's bad happening. 235 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: Don't forget. 236 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: I would not want him to to platoon. He would 237 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: be miserable, miserable in platoon. 238 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: Okay. This is from George David on Facebook. What do 239 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: you think the price point would be to bring back 240 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: Harrison Vader? Would it significant? Would it be significantly less 241 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: than the ten million dollars that his mutual option than 242 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: his mutual option at the end of the season. You 243 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: guys have any thoughts on Harrison Vader possibly coming back. 244 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: I have thoughts on Harrison Vader coming back. 245 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: I don't want him back unless it's really cheap, because 246 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 3: I want them to hold powder for something that they 247 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: really need later on at the trade deadline. 248 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: I like Harrison Bader what he did for that. 249 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: Team, but I don't want him back on this team 250 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 3: because I need to give Justin Crawford an opportunity. Number 251 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 3: one and number two. You got to hold some powder, 252 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: as far as some numbers are concerned. Uh, for five 253 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: million dollars, Yeah, for six million dollars, Yeah, something like that. 254 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: That's not gonna affect what I can do at the 255 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: trade deadline. 256 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: But frankly, I mean, if you want to infuse some 257 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: youth into this team and find out whether or not 258 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: Justin Crawford can play in the major leagues and be effective, 259 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: then I don't sign. Then I don't sign batter and 260 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: I think we'll be unhappy if he comes back on 261 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: a on a deal that's less than the number that 262 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 3: he turned down. 263 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 4: And Todd, you and I were talking about this yesterday, 264 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 4: you kind of need to if you're going to inject 265 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 4: Justin Crawford in there, you need to find out if 266 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 4: he can play center field. And uh because if he 267 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 4: plays left field this year, and you know, you get 268 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: Batter to play center, but he moves on as he's 269 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 4: gonna be able to go back to center. So find 270 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: out now if he can play center field and if 271 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 4: you have to move him to left field in the 272 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 4: future rather than vice versa. I mean, all along we've 273 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 4: had an eye on Batter. He's wanted a three year deal, 274 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 4: but I think we've said all along, if it's an 275 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 4: inexpensive one year deal, then maybe. But I think that 276 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: there is a real desire to see what this kid 277 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: can do in center field. Unless he comes to spring 278 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 4: training and it's really clear that he's not a center 279 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 4: field or he can't play center field, which I don't 280 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 4: think is going to happen, then you could maybe get 281 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 4: better if he's still out there. But I do believe 282 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: they want to see what Justin Crawford could do in 283 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 4: center field. Test them there right away. 284 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: I absolutely agreeing. King Diddy Iddy says, why do you 285 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: think why did the Phillies think Adolei Scarcia is an 286 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 2: upgrade batting average to twenty seven last year batting average two, 287 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 2: twenty four and twenty four. Not a World Series type 288 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: of outfield, And I think a lot of it is 289 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: because they needed somebody relatively inexpensive to replace Nick Cassianos. Listen, 290 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: they want to move on from Nick. I mean that 291 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: tells that says a lot. Gonna eat twenty million dollars 292 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: to move Nick Castianos out of the clubhouse. They don't 293 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: want him back. He does not want to be back. 294 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: They wish it wasn't at this point. They wish he 295 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: was a very productive player and happy to be here. 296 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: But they just want to move on from Nick Castianos. 297 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: And so that kind of tells you a lot that 298 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: they're they're willing to do that. They're hoping that he 299 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: can bounce back. 300 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, Garcia Garcia fit. I mean he had had that 301 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 4: ten million dollars salary slot. I guess you'd call it 302 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 4: where Kepler was, So he fits that. They're taking a 303 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: chance that the power is going to be there. They 304 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 4: need a right handed power back. They're taking a chance 305 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 4: that he could come close to what he did in 306 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 4: twenty three. I don't know if he can. He's been 307 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 4: you know, you know, offensively bad the last two years 308 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 4: with ops is in the mid sixes I and that's 309 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 4: not going to help you if he interests you along 310 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 4: at any point. He's a better defender in right field, 311 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 4: and they're taking a taking a flyer that the bat 312 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 4: can come back, you know, we'll see. I mean last 313 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 4: year the out field was near the bottom defensively and 314 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 4: below average offensively, and it's not improved this year. So 315 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be an area that they continue 316 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 4: to look to improve throughout the season. Maybe not right 317 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: out of the gate, maybe not right now, but definitely 318 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 4: throughout the season. It's it's gonna be under review. 319 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: Here's the reality. 320 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: Okay, had had Harrison Bader taken the ten million dollars, 321 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 3: you wouldn't have a dolls Garcia. You would had Harrison 322 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: Bader playing center, you would have Martian right, and you'd 323 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: have Crawford and left. But had he taken it, they 324 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: wouldn't have a dollars Garcia. Simple that simple math. And 325 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: and I think they had to, you know, try to 326 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: look for a low risk, high reward guy with an 327 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: ex SU's an excellent defender. So he's got some pluses 328 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: and he's got some serious power, and they're hopeful that 329 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: you know, Kevin Long Kaylon could do some work with 330 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: him to make him just an overall better hitter. 331 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 4: And guys, Bader could move soon here because Bellager's off 332 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 4: the board and he was kind of he's kind of 333 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 4: net in the packing order, so he could move before 334 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 4: the snowstorm hits. 335 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: We'll see, and it sounds like I mean, of course, 336 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: isn't that surprised, But Bader is still looking for a 337 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: multi year deal. You know, we said one year after 338 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: Bader he's not looking for a one year deal right now. Okay, 339 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: one question about like just the general offense from dumpster 340 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: fire on X. The Phillies need right handed power badly. 341 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: Au Haniel Suarez is a free agent. Alec Bohma is 342 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: a free agent at the end of the season, most 343 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: likely won't be back. Why can't you trade Boem and 344 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: signed Suarez short term? It makes too much sense in 345 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: his mind? Is that anything that you know, You've gotten 346 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: a lot of questions about au Hanyo Suarez. You know, hey, 347 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: go out and get a big bat. 348 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: You know, the power makes a lot of sense. I mean, 349 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: he hit almost fifty home runs last year. You know, 350 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 4: it's right handed bat. There's a lot of you know, 351 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 4: he would have made a lot of sense last uh 352 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 4: last summer if you could have done something. It's it's 353 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 4: hard to fit him in. He's more of a DH 354 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: but played him third base. It's just a lot of strikeouts. 355 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: And do you want to inject more strike couts into 356 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 4: a high strikeout lineup. I think that's the thing that 357 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 4: they're pondering. But the power is is more than intriguing. 358 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: Agree. 359 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I've got some background noise here, guys, 360 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 3: and I apologize for that because they're they're blowing some 361 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 3: leaves over here. 362 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: On the field. 363 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: But I will tell you we're doing something. You might 364 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: have to cut this out, Todd anyway. 365 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: The coin the matter is that you know, Lehoniosare is, 366 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 3: while he's a very very good power hitter, he's not as. 367 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: Good a hitter as Alec Poe. Alec Bohm is a 368 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: much more pure hitter. 369 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: And I think they're hopeful that Alec Bohm can can 370 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 3: go back to that one hundred RBI type season that 371 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: will help them win baseball games. 372 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 4: He hit under two, he hit under two hundred in 373 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 4: Seattle over like fifty five games down the stretch. It 374 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 4: showed some power, but he hit under two hundred. 375 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: Correct. If if you love, if you love swinging miss 376 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: and Chase in the Phillies lineup, then you really would 377 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: like to add a you han you and I'm not. 378 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: That's the point is that you'd be living getting rid 379 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: of one of your best, high contact, high average guys 380 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: for more swing and miss, more chase, more power, but 381 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: more swing and miss, more Chase. And if you hate that, 382 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: if that makes you mental, then he's probably not a 383 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: great fit for you. Okay, a couple more, we'll wrap 384 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: this up. This is from David Jay on X what 385 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: is their back who are their backup starting pitchers or 386 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: what is their backup starting pitcher plant and the event 387 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 2: one of the regulars goes down for an extended period. 388 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: Rob Thompson has said a few times, uh recently in 389 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: recent days, Zach Wheeler is hoping to be ready by 390 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: opening day. Not sure that that's gonna happen, but yeah, 391 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 2: if what happens, if Lazarda goes down or so many tweaks, 392 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 2: a hammy, or a couple of guys go down in 393 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: spring training. That is something I think they really need 394 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: to try to address because the options that they have 395 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: if one or two of those guys goes down is 396 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: kind of scary. You have Alan Ron Hell, Geene Cabrera, 397 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: you know, a couple other guys, but nobody that you go, Okay, 398 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: you don't have you don't have Andrew Painter waiting in 399 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: the wings because Andrew Painter is probably going to open 400 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: the season in the Phillies rotation. Are you guys concerned 401 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 2: about the rotation depth right now? 402 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 4: Absolutely? And I think more will be coming in here 403 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 4: as sprint training really bears down on us. I think, 404 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 4: you know, they've talked about continuing to kind of you know, 405 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: add around the fringes and around the edges, and I 406 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 4: think that really is going to be in the starting 407 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 4: pitching area. I expect them to add somebody who can 408 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 4: be a swingman and pick up some innings in rotation. 409 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 4: Should they need Taiwan Walker, you know, probably your number 410 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 4: five star. Very becomes very important. 411 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: Is there a Spencer Turnbull out there? Is there one? 412 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: Because that's the priority right now. 413 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 3: If I am the general manager, I am hell bent 414 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: on bringing more starting pitching in somehow, some way, right now, 415 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: they see how it lines up, they see Wheeler coming, 416 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: they see you know, Painter being the guy. 417 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: If you're a free agent, everybody knows it. There's a 418 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: five guys that are already in the rotation. 419 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 3: But if I'm a starting pitcher, I'm thinking one of 420 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: these guys gets tweaked, I got a chance to step 421 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: right in. So it would be a really appealing place 422 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: for me if I was a if I was a 423 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 3: free agent out there who's sort of on the fringes, 424 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 3: and I think that's got to be the priority for 425 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 3: Davim Browski right now. 426 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: To me, it certainly would. 427 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean Walker Buehler is still out there, you know. 428 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: I don't know if they look at him as a 429 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: swing guy the bit. The really good swing guy to 430 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: get would be Nick Martinez, who's been incredible in the 431 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: bullpen and been pretty pretty effective in the rotation. So 432 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 2: let's see. Got some questions about this. This is from 433 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: Mike C on Facebook. The Phillies weren't interested in Freddy Peralta. 434 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: I think they were interested in Freddy Peralta. I mean, 435 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: who wouldn't be interested in pretty Peralta. But they don't 436 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: have the package of prospects that could have landed them 437 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: Freddy Peralta without unless you wanted to give up Miller Crawford, 438 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 2: you know, and then where are you there? You're kind 439 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: of home. 440 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 4: That's got two top one hundreds. They got two top 441 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 4: one hundred prospects for you know, Freddy Pearlton's a good pitch. 442 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 4: I'm sure there was interested, but I just don't think 443 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 4: they have the wherewithal in prospects to get them, or 444 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 4: they do, but they don't want to give them up. 445 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: You know, you need those guys. You need to get 446 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 4: some young guys in here. Crawford, Miller, Painter, those guys 447 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 4: have to get into this aging lineup real soon to 448 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 4: bring the average age down and balance out your payroll 449 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 4: a little bit and sustain this thing. You need some 450 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 4: young players. That's one of the reasons Boba Schett was, 451 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 4: you know, so intriguing. Aside from the very productive. 452 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 3: Bat lest we forget John Duran was traded for some 453 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 3: young players that would create depth for this team. When 454 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: you start trading for players over time. I went through 455 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: it through in nine, ten and eleven. There's not an 456 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: unlimited amount of prospects down there are that are super appealing, 457 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 3: and so if you don't have a ton of those 458 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 3: players you wish you did, then it makes it very 459 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 3: difficult for you to make these kind of moves because 460 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 3: you don't have ten top one hundred prospects and no 461 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 3: one's gonna want your thirtieth prospect on your list. It's 462 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 3: it's not gonna happen, and it's difficult to create that depth. 463 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: And uh, you know, at this stage, the Mets had 464 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 3: a little bit more for you know, for their team, 465 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 3: and so for that one year deal, and the Mets are. 466 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: Desperate for pitching, no pitching, and they're really desperate to 467 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: get him, so they had to make that move. 468 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: One other off outfield question I wanted to jump back 469 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 2: to it I missed. This is from Zach Hopkins on X. 470 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: How long of a leash do you think Justin Crawford 471 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 2: will have assuming he breaks camp as the opening day 472 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: center fielder. Does this also effectively block Johann Rojas from 473 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 2: a major league spot? How long of a lee I 474 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: think they got to give Justin Crawford a very very 475 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: long runway. I mean, if he just if he's hitting 476 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: two fifteen at the end of April, everybody, you gotta like, relax, 477 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: take a deep breath, calm down. They got to give 478 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: him more than a month. I mean, if he's hitting 479 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: one twenty, that's something different maybe, But they got to 480 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 2: let this guy's They got to see if he can 481 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: play and hit his you know, produce at the big 482 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: league level. 483 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 4: Agree, I mean, okay, he's going a new time to adjust' 484 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 4: gonna need time to believe that he belongs here. All 485 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 4: young players need it. I think if you can go 486 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 4: out there and really play some good defense for you 487 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 4: contribute there and and just don't look overmatched in you're 488 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 4: at bats, you know, don't you know, look like you're 489 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 4: lost in the in the surf, you know, out at 490 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 4: the beach and during a storm. So that's where they're 491 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 4: gonna have to really read him and communicate with him 492 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 4: and know where he is mentally and just let him 493 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 4: breathe and let him adjust to the level and let 494 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 4: it let it come out. But you can't make a 495 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 4: judgment in a week, can't make a job. I don't 496 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 4: think he can make a complete judgment in a month. 497 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 4: You've got to run him out there. That's why you 498 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 4: bat him at the bottom of the order and have 499 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 4: quality at bats. Don't chase and see what happens. 500 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a combination of things. 501 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: If he really looks overmatched defensively and overmatched on the 502 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: offensive side. 503 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: It might be a shorter leach, But I think they 504 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: got to give him some runway. And it's really important. 505 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: That he plays a decent, if not at least an 506 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: average center field if he's really struggling offensively, because you 507 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 3: don't want those things to affect each other, what have you. 508 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 3: He can't have a combination of a guy hitting a 509 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: buck fifty and also struggling defensively. That's not gonna help 510 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 3: the team. That's not gonna help anybody. And if that's 511 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 3: the case, which I've seen with Dave Dombrowski did with 512 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 3: a catcher with the with the Boston Red Sox, uh 513 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: several years ago where and I'm brainlocking on the on 514 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 3: the switching and catcher when I was a coach there. 515 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 3: I mean, he was there for about a week or so, 516 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: and he struggled offensively and defensively, had no way to 517 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 3: to really help out the team a really strong prospect, 518 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 3: and ended up making him a left fielder. They got 519 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: him out of there within two weeks because it was 520 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 3: just it was it was too much of a I mean, 521 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 3: too important a position. 522 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: In at the catching position. And I have to remember 523 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: the name. 524 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 4: Was trade for yes, oh swineheart. 525 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: It was it Waslake Swihart, Is that right? 526 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 3: I really liked him a lot, good athlete, but but 527 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: defensively he was just sort of overmatched and uh, great kid, 528 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 3: but he never he you know, it was just too 529 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 3: detrimental to the team. And centerfield is in a really 530 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 3: important position. 531 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna close with this since 532 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: everybody we started the show by everybody, a lot of 533 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,959 Speaker 2: questions about you know, how upset fans are? I got too? 534 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: These are more comments. I really think this. I have 535 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 2: his card on X. Can everyone just take a breath. 536 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: This is a ninety six win team last year, even 537 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 2: with Wheeler going down, NOLA completely ineffective, not having a 538 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 2: closer until August, and the majority of our lineup barely 539 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 2: hitting their body weight for a lot of the season. 540 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 2: Everything's going to be fine. I mean, how about that? 541 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: You know that this is shocker on So yeah, Craig 542 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: Grove on X, is all the negativity about the Phillies 543 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 2: off season warranted? If the Bashett thing wouldn't have happened. 544 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: I e. 545 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: He signed JT signs in December at the winter meetings 546 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 2: or Bobachett signs early. Would the fan base be more content? 547 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: Would you guys see it differently? I believe so. I 548 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: believe there would be a little bit of Look at 549 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: the Mets did a lot of exciting things. The Philly 550 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 2: is the only thing they really did was bring back Schwarburn, JT. 551 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 2: You know they they you know they got Brad Keller, 552 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: they traded Strom, Castillas is gone. Did they really get 553 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 2: But I agree. I think the fact that they were 554 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 2: so close to Bashett has people just and I get it. 555 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 2: I get that frustration. You wanted to you wanted a 556 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 2: great player, you wanted an injection of life into the 557 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 2: lineup and and all that excitement. But I think there 558 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: is some truth of that there. 559 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 4: There's still plenty to like about this team. Plenty to 560 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: like about this team. 561 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: Uh. 562 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by this comment. It's really it's kind 563 00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: of cool. 564 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 3: But I will say this, the fans would have been 565 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 3: pissed off regardless, because the fans have an expectation now 566 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 3: of this team that is pretty grand. Yos and that's 567 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: okay because it's a really good team and they were 568 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 3: expecting to you know, over the last few years, David 569 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 3: Browski's brought in like a sort of a big name player. 570 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: It's Turner, it's Harper, it's shorter, it's you know, it's 571 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: somebody Lozardo who people didn't realize was a really big 572 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 3: time player. So their expectation is that it's much higher 573 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 3: than that, and I think they would have been pissed 574 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: off regardless. 575 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 2: There we go. 576 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 4: That's what the word fan comes from. Fanatic. You know, 577 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 4: they're people are fanatical, they're emotional. You know, they's spent 578 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 4: a tough stretch, the Eagles going out, Phillies lose out 579 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 4: on but shed people are emotional. They want to see 580 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 4: a winner. 581 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: So it is ever enough until they win a World Series, 582 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: my friends. That's how it works in Philadelphia, and that's 583 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: the reality. 584 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 4: And they're not satisfied until they do that. You know, 585 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 4: the owner's not satisfied till you do that. And I'll 586 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 4: tell you what Dave Debroski said, he was content. That 587 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 4: was GM podium zoom speak because he's gonna keep trying 588 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 4: to do something to to win World Series. Because this 589 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 4: is a guy. I mean, they all want to win 590 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 4: a World Series and it could be a lot worse. 591 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 4: I will tell you two weeks here, three weeks before 592 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 4: spring training, there are a lot of clubs out there 593 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 4: that would trade rosters with the Phillies tomorrow. 594 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: There's a long time the truth. 595 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So absolutely all right, Rubin, enjoy clear water. Jim 596 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: and I are going to get the salt ready, go 597 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: to the store, get the eggs and the bread and 598 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: the and the making chili. 599 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: Make some chili on Sunday or the left. And there's 600 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: nothing left. 601 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 4: There's nothing left. 602 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: There's nothing left. So all right, everybody, enjoy your weekend. 603 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: We will be back next week. 604 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 4: Smell you litle always. 605 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: Now you're Jimmy. 606 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 607 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: Territory Network. Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube and 608 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts.