1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: And I said, Lord, save me. That's all I had 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: time to do, and I hit Timber, I hit it. 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: He's like Mom went all. 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: In Part one of American Loggers, we met the cousins 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: Cody and Kalin Vlines, who are multi generational loggers from 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 2: the Ozarks. We heard about both of their fathers, Teddy 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: and Eddie Villines, and how they've lived off the land logging, 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: hide hunting coons, digging, gensing, raising cattle, selling firewood, even 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: using horses and mules to skid logs until the nineteen nineties. 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: This episode is about Teddy Vilines, Cody's father, a humble, 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 2: lifelong logger and a legend in his own right. And 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: once again, this whole interview will be leading us to 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: a single story of danger and an existential moment of clarity. 14 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: I really doubt that you're going to want to miss 15 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: this one. And hey, please check out the new Bear 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: Grease YouTube channel and Instagram where we're putting up fresh 17 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: content all the time. Me and Bear John are very 18 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: excited about this and thanks for all your support and 19 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 2: kind words of encouragement, and thanks for helping us spread 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: the word. 21 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: My name is Klay Nukeoman. 22 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: This is The Bear Grease Podcast, where we'll explore things 23 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: forgotten but relevant, search for insight and unlikely places, and 24 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: where we'll tell the story of Americans who live their 25 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: lives close to the land. Brought to you by to 26 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: Covi's Boots. I'm a cowboy boot man and I've been 27 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: wearing to Covis for years. They're the most comfortable boot 28 00:01:48,920 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: I've ever put on. Good boots for good times. I'd 29 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: like to introduce you to Teddy Velines. He's gonna start 30 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: us with a story about the generation of loggers before him, 31 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 2: one about his father arivelines. 32 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: Well, I need an introduction in this logging Bison. It's 33 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: a family from generations by dad. The first stories that 34 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: I ever heard logging was a little bitty Feller and 35 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: my dad and mom, which they lived on Buffalo Steel Creek, 36 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: and my dad was logging with ain't L. Henderson, Grannie 37 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: Henderson's husband and mom will get up in the morning 38 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: and cook breakfast and get Dad up, and while he 39 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: was eating, she would go to the marn Onners his 40 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: mules and feed him and he get done, he'd get 41 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: on him and he'd ride plumb down to Grannie Henderson's 42 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: to meet Frank. 43 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: This story took place in the nineteen forties. Frank Henderson 44 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: is the husband of Eva or Granny Henderson from episode 45 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: two forty three titled Ozarkian Martyr. She was the last 46 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: hold out on the Buffalo River before it became a 47 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: national park. Grannie is the only woman in the Bear 48 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: Grease Hall of Fame. Granny and Frank's house still stands 49 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: today on public land in the Buffalo National River. 50 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: Ted's father Ari worked with her husband. 51 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: And so one morning she got him up and got 52 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: him ready, and he took off and he got down 53 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: to Grannie Henderson's. 54 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: Frank was no light on. 55 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: He's overslipped, and he went knocked on the door, beating 56 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: on the door. And Frank got up, said, Ari, my 57 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: dad's dame said, what in the world are you doing? 58 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: He said, well, he said, time go logging. He said, 59 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: it's just now midnight, he said, And Dad said, you know, 60 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: they didn't have no alarm clocks or nothing. 61 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 4: They just got up, you know, naturally. 62 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: And so Dad said, he laid on the floor till 63 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: he got daylight, and then Frank went on logging. 64 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: Just stopped for a moment, and imagine a time when 65 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 2: people didn't use alarm clocks, but just got up naturally. 66 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: As Ted described, imagine Ari's wife Cynthia the lions after 67 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: he left her waiting for the sun to rise, only 68 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 2: to eventually realize the night was still young and the 69 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: sun was still hours from rising. Ted continues on about 70 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 2: his dad. 71 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can go on back to my dad a 72 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: wagon and you've probably been down there to the where 73 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: the water comes out past the Harper place. 74 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, down Buffalo. 75 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 76 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: Well Dad had very young mules and his wagon was loaded. 77 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: But he come up from the dug bank coming around. 78 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: But he'd come around and there was a big yellow 79 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: jacket's nest and one mule got in it. Well, they 80 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: jerked the wagon, the back wheel off. 81 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 4: Blow the road. 82 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: They couldn't pull it, and they were hung up in 83 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: that nest and Dad said they were stinging his mules 84 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: to death, big. 85 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 4: Yellow jack huge. 86 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: Well, they just hung up and Dad said the mules 87 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: was breading, throwing fits. He said they was literally stinging 88 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: them to death. He jumped off the wagon, grab him 89 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: a big row and crawled under the wagon tongue the 90 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 1: pin holes and beat the pen out of that tongue 91 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: and let the mules. 92 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 4: Loose, go free. 93 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: Well, when he got to the house and pulled his 94 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: clothes off, they counted fifty or fifty one places. Blood 95 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: was running out of him, besides all the stings that 96 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: he had got laying under there of beating that out, 97 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: and one. 98 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 4: Of they hadn't sunk. 99 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: But that's the type of men that I growed up under. 100 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: There's no quit, no backup, and you better not. I 101 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: mean that was just instill and me and my brother 102 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: read like little but our whole lives and we knowed 103 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: how to push each other trigger, I guess, because if 104 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: you would stub up, say I ain't gonna quit, I'm 105 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: gonna do it when the others wanting to quit, try 106 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: something well, doesn't make you mad, and it would either 107 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: get done or bust. Dad worried about everything. He was 108 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: the most particular man. Had to be done right, and 109 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: it had to be done in a hurry when he 110 00:06:55,360 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: said move. But that's where I got Maya and these boys, 111 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: Cody and Kaylen growing up. You treat everybody fire, you 112 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: treat their place just like at yours. 113 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 4: Don't leave trash. And that's why. 114 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: I was brought up in logging business. 115 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 4: But that was and then six. 116 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 1: Years old, I started following Dad in the logwoods, carrying 117 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: the maising stick gas and on Me and Ed, Kaylin's 118 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: dad two years older. By nine years old. First year 119 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: EDB drives the mule. I'd carry the skid dogs and 120 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: hook the logs because Dad and Litchy and eight nine 121 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: years old driving on mule, Me and Ed skidding logs 122 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: every summer time. Fourteen fifteen, you've done a man of 123 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: split and stave boats cutting timber. We roll them up, 124 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: skid poles up to two ton trucks get stuck, no 125 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: skinder know nothing. 126 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 4: You'd have to unload the logs. You'd hook mules to. 127 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: The front of it to try to pull it down. 128 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: Chains in your due whole getting tied to the tree 129 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: or a big old poles stuck under you. It was 130 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: rough life, but that was how that was how you 131 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: made a living. 132 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 4: Yes it was. 133 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: I mean in the old days it was hard physical. 134 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: But I was just telling I did everything but crosscut, 135 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: saw and wagon. They hadn't quit that long when I 136 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: was going to the woods with Dad. Because Dad talked 137 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: about the first two men saw. 138 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: Did he ever run too? 139 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 5: Yeah? 140 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 4: Two men in chainsaw and I did. 141 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: We skidded logs with mules places of steep that you 142 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: would skid them and dump them off of one bank 143 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: to another too steep to skid over, and then go 144 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: down reskid them up and then take them to the 145 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: truck and stayboats. Back then you made it by hand. 146 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: We could attract Kinston. My uncle Zev and my brother 147 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: Hillard and Dad all had trucks. We made twenty one 148 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: loads of stables off of forty acres. 149 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: Many days we. 150 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: Have busted two loads of stay boats and get out 151 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: two three loads of logs. And that was with three 152 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: grown men and me sixteen year old down a grown 153 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: man because me and Dad busted both of them. Load 154 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: them behind. One hundred and eighty is the lowest you 155 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: ever put on a truck up to two fifteen to twenty 156 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: all manual, and you pushed them from the ground up 157 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: to the top of the truck. We get up and 158 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: be at either casts or clarks full at daylight, unload 159 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: them and be back to the woods and start the 160 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: same old. Yeah, And that's how me and they had 161 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: bought our first car. Summertime. We go to the woods 162 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: and help them and we'd meet a crew in haul 163 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: hay sometimes midnight one o'clock we get done and we 164 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: got a cent and a half a bell. And that 165 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: summer we made enough we went in and bought a 166 00:09:58,640 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: car together. 167 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 2: Ted and his brother Ed would have bought that first 168 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: car around nineteen seventy three. I've heard Kaylin say that 169 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: Newton County, Arkansas is thirty years behind the times, and 170 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: I think that checks out when you hear Teddy talk. 171 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: He's only sixty nine years old, but his life sounds 172 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: like he was raised in the nineteen thirties, but his 173 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: childhood was in the nineteen sixties. In his teenage years 174 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: in the nineteen seventies, I was. 175 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: Doing it to raise the family, my dad. I mean, 176 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: that's what they did, farmed and wintertime. I mean, like 177 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: I say, you you didn't have no equipment, You didn't 178 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: get to work a lot in winter. You cut for wood. 179 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: Me and Ed coon hunted and back then in falls, 180 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: Jed sang you could. We bought many groceries through the 181 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: winter on coon hides, and Jim saying, because we're getting 182 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: logged now, we're poor. When men heard first got married, 183 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: this cold going to be when he got to the log. 184 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: Teddy's wife, Marie is sitting across the room from him, 185 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: listening to this story. She and Teddy will have been 186 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: married forty nine years in June. 187 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 4: We would drive out. 188 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: The little story out there, a soda pop across the quarter, 189 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: a mountain dew. We dig up a quarter, go out 190 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: turned by, which is a mile and a half out 191 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: the road, get a soda pop and split it for sweetening. 192 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: Time for rough But I always had a pack of hounds. 193 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: We had visitors all through the company. We never thought 194 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: about it. She just I mean, was that was life 195 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: back then? Never one hungry, You paid your bills grow. 196 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: But Logan was. Logan was a living. There's nothing that 197 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: I like better than to walk through Virgin forest, big timber, 198 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: ride through it. But Logan was a living. But I 199 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: hate clearcutting, select cut. It's what my whole life. My 200 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: dad worked on his reputation, honest, he never was out 201 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: of timber. When me and ed want in business, people 202 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: knowed him. But we did the same. And I've never 203 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: been without on my word. We signed one contract in 204 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: my lifetime of logging. It was a huge track that 205 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: others was involved. We had to sign papers. The rest 206 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: of it's men in shake word of mouth. 207 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: The handshake business of the Vilion's logging company is still 208 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: in effect today, but the shake is coming from Cody 209 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 2: and Kaylin. This family's reputation has held for three generations. 210 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 2: And if they say they're gonna do it, even if 211 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: it hurts them, they do it. And man, when I 212 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: hear that kind of character, I get excited. There are 213 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: some flashy things in life that our culture wants to celebrate, 214 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: but how about we celebrate genuine character. Do you remember 215 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: what Eddie Valyines told Klin on the last episode. He said, 216 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: if you're really being honest with people, you probably won't 217 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: get rich, You'll just get by. Do you remember him 218 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 2: talking about being content? That was powerful stuff. Don't be 219 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: duped by the trends of the age in a world 220 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: that lacks character's strong character will stand out and its 221 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: potency is so ancient that there is no doubt that. 222 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 3: It will always rise to the top. 223 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: Back to Teddy but anyway, Yeah, the log and then 224 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: in the night as we got our first skidter and 225 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: well before that, he's talking about the winstruck. When we 226 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: got our first winstruck, man ed, we thought that was 227 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: the greatest thing that ever was because We didn't have 228 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: for real much skided folk. I mean when mand was young, 229 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: about fourteen fifteen sixteen. People just I mean, that's stand back. 230 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: Men would load logs. 231 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 4: We worked together. 232 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: We'd rolled up, hunted everything together, the same size, a 233 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: little bit of gas, but we could. 234 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: Load them so fast. 235 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: And of course them old big butts on big logs, 236 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: you know we'll gain ground. Well, you could grab that 237 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: in and spin it backwards, and other shove and keep 238 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: that log straight. We could put them on in trucks. 239 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: We got where we'd walk the skid poles and you 240 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: had to stack them on trucks. You had bush poles 241 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: on the trucks and stack them. We'd walk them skid 242 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: poles and roll them up the mothers just and we 243 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: get to the mill, we take the people just stand back. 244 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: We didn't looad the load of logs just as. 245 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: Fast as work together. Little, but that's all we know. 246 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 4: And dads say, boys, he said, you know too little. 247 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 4: He said you're going to kill yourself. But we watched him. 248 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: You know, we just laugh and you thought you was 249 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: in your prime. 250 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: Teddy knows that I've come here to hear one story. 251 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: One that Cody said I had to hear, and once 252 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: again it's about danger in the logwoods. But before he 253 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: gets to the big one, he tells me a few others. 254 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: This one involves the bluff, which there are a lot 255 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: of in Newton County. 256 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: I can tell you fine little story when I was 257 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: logging by myself one time, I was cutting around big 258 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: high bluff and timber the tops of it. You know, 259 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: they was kind of falling hanging off the edge of 260 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: the bluff around too. The are well, I'll just go 261 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: turn top them, you know, walking well, of course I 262 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: wanted to run, knock, slash, I mean, and I fell 263 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: one and I run out on a couple of little 264 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: old limbs about big around. As you lag to top 265 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: that tree, I happened to look down, and I am 266 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: scared to death of heis that bluff had made a 267 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: v and I was standing on two little limbs looking 268 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: down at least fifty to seventy foot off of that bluff, 269 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: and I froze panicked. It comes terrified, But that had 270 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: I'd fill the top where it just bed, and son 271 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: I liked, had never got back out on hard drown. 272 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: This next story, on the surface, you might think it 273 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: highlights how tough teddy is and it will do that. 274 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: But to me, it really highlights how serious these guys 275 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: are about getting the job done. 276 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my wife's over there. Like I said, there's 277 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: so many accidents. Let me tell this about my arms. 278 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: Lord Bob self had no I had a guy help me. 279 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 5: We got a load. 280 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: A couple other guys was on the same track, and 281 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: I go haul our logs. Well, I run the chainsaw. 282 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: It's twenty four each bar long bar and used to 283 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: it and I way off in the canyon there. I 284 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: run down and both of them was up on the 285 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: hill working. 286 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 5: Well. 287 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: The chainsaw was sitting earth and I had to got 288 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: me some standards before go to loading. I jumped off, 289 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: grabbed that chainsaw and cranked it. And there's a limb 290 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: just right. I standing in the road, just right for standards. Well, 291 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: I reach over to cut that off. Well, hit the 292 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: twenty each bar instead of twenty four. Well, when I 293 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: towed it up there, the end of that bar tip 294 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: hit that limb and kicked back. 295 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 4: The handlebar was broke on the chains off. The chain 296 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 4: brake was broke, hit. 297 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: Kicked back, rapped on my head and I dodged it 298 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: and it went through cut my shoulder and the chain 299 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: was still running inside my shoulder, cutting me hold it here, 300 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: trying to up here with my head. The chain brake 301 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't stop the chain, and I finally got my finger 302 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: and got it shut off, and I had to slide 303 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: it out of my arm, and that muscle just fell 304 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: off down well, I held it up there. They got 305 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: down there and he took and cleaned my shirt out 306 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: of my cousin best could cut my shirt and tied 307 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: that mustle up. I got on the loader, loaded me 308 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: a load of logs, come flumb. It took me at 309 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: least an hour bore to get to the bill wasn't hurting, 310 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: wasn't bleeding bad. I got to the meal un dumped 311 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 1: a load of logs and I said, sow this up 312 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: for me, and they got some butterfly stitches whatever. 313 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 4: And taped that up. 314 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: I got back in the truck, went back out there 315 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: and hauled me another load of logs. And the old 316 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: boy that was helping me, I means big cattle man 317 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: and stuff. And I left my big truck sitting there 318 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: and I drive my work truck there so he could 319 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: drive anyway. Just worked out and I pulled up her 320 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: depart my big truck. It's nearly dark, and I hollered 321 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: at him and I said. 322 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 4: Come here and sow this up. I said, you got 323 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 4: some stitches? Do you show kews up? 324 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: Well he looked at that and he gave me the 325 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: awfless cussing that I've ever had, and he said, you 326 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: get to the doctor. Well, I come home, and she 327 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: took me. 328 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 4: To the Never did hurt bad. The worst thing was 329 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 4: them cleaning that up. But I got a big scar. 330 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: That muscle just fell off. 331 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: How many stitches did they do you remember? 332 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 5: Oh? 333 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 4: No, it's plumb across my scars. 334 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 5: Six seves. 335 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 4: Love, it's with the bar. I mean he was running. 336 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: That is a wild story. 337 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 2: And Caln once told me about his dad, Eddie, working 338 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 2: for over a week with a broken ankle, the bone 339 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 2: almost pushing through the skin, but refusing to go to 340 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 2: the doctor. He used Klan's ankle brace from basketball and 341 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: sensed it tight and hobbled around in the logwoods until 342 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,479 Speaker 2: his family made him go to the doctor. There's a 343 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 2: fine line between glorifying foolishness and toughness, and I'd say 344 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: these guys have weaved back and forth over that threshold 345 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: most of their life. But they just knew they had 346 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 2: to get the work done so that their families could eat. 347 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: And I don't know this, but I doubt Teddy and 348 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: Eddie had very good health insurance, and you might have 349 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: felt that burden before I know that I have. Here's 350 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: a story from Cody about his dad back when he 351 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: had a temper. 352 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 5: We were Kingston, wasn't it. 353 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, probably to this day the worst place I've ever 354 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 6: been as far as logging goes. 355 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 5: We were butting in a new road. 356 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 6: There's a little o' holly there, and it was rough, 357 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 6: and there's some bigger ox and there was a giant 358 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 6: sycamore tree. The only way to get it road in 359 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 6: there was right through the middle of that sycamore tree. 360 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 6: We could catch tree, that one, no big deal, but 361 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 6: we couldn't get that stomp out a little five aweight caterpillar. 362 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 5: S kitter, which is not a very books kitder. So 363 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 5: we got the bright idea. 364 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 6: I don't know how we got the cable up there, 365 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 6: but we got the cable way up in this sycamore tree, 366 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 6: way up in it, and I was gonna go out 367 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 6: the road pull while he worked on the stump on 368 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 6: this thing with a dozer and where we're gonna bang 369 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 6: it all out at once, because that o' five wasn't none. 370 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 5: We're close to bank enough to push this tree. 371 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 6: So I get out there and I'm mucked onto a's 372 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 6: pushing on the stump and we got it to moving. 373 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 5: We got to moving enough. I thought I was doing 374 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 5: some good. Well. The road we had to build around there. 375 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 6: To that point wasn't very wide, and I'm sitting in 376 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 6: the middle of this new road and before I realize it, 377 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 6: I'm getting off toward the side of this thing and 378 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 6: it's pretty pretty good bank THRT. But I'm trying to 379 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 6: get this tree out, and before I know it, I'm 380 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 6: in a bond. This kidder's fixing the turnover, so I 381 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 6: stopped with tensions was kind of getting high anyway. We 382 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 6: was almost get this tree out, you know, uh, and 383 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 6: he's wanting me to pull. 384 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: I's high tempered back then he's wanting. 385 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 5: Me to pull. 386 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 6: He's pushing and he's screaming at me to pull. Well, 387 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 6: Frankydal was working with us at this time. I told 388 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 6: you about Frank, and Frank was on the ground and 389 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 6: Frank's telling me to pull, pull, pull, and then Frank 390 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 6: stops telling me to pull because he says, I'm gonna 391 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 6: turn over. And Dad comes off of oz and here 392 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 6: he comes, and I said, before you even get on there, 393 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 6: thatsucker's gonna turn over. He went right by me on 394 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 6: the skinner he went, and you know what happened next? 395 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 6: Me and Frankidell are standing there, I mean when, and 396 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 6: Frank's mushka got out of the way. 397 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 5: And I'll never forget this as long as I live. 398 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 6: This is just one of those people that know Frankodale 399 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 6: can see this picture. Frankidell's smoking one of them over 400 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 6: USA goes, he let one up, and I'm standing there 401 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 6: side him, and we're standing there in the road and 402 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 6: Dad turns the skinny over and he went from okay, 403 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 6: he's like this. He went over on his side, up 404 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 6: on its top and over on the other side. He 405 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 6: turned it over. I mean it when when it didn't 406 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 6: go you know, I turned I turned the tractor over 407 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 6: one time and it was like slow motion, you know, 408 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 6: it just I just laid it over on its side. 409 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 5: When this skinner turned. 410 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 4: Over, it ended on its top. 411 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 6: It was one hundred miles an hour. No, it went completely. 412 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 4: Over yes, and landed on its top on the other side. 413 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, because you came out like a grass squirreld. But anyway, 414 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 6: this skinner goes boom boom boom. I mean it flopped 415 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 6: and I'll never forget as long as all the Frankie 416 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 6: ells down there. He never got excited. He never even 417 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 6: took a fast step. He smoking those cigarette that scared 418 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 6: landed and he went, I'll be dank. And about the 419 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 6: time frank said that Dad's head comes up out of 420 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 6: that scary it don't have no doors on it. No, 421 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 6: I mean this is a pretty old school rig. It 422 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 6: was a little grapple, but didn't have a doors on it. 423 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm scared to death that he's got a 424 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 6: leg hanging out of door whatever. His head pops out 425 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 6: the other side and he comes out the cable broke 426 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 6: the cables hanging in the second Moore tree. In a 427 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 6: matter of less than five minutes, we got the dose, 428 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 6: are hooked on the skinner. We turned it back up 429 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 6: on his wheels and we go back to. 430 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: Lock it back down on steep hel I mean, it 431 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: was just like we did it every day. But I 432 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: was hanging on no doors and I was clutching everything 433 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: because I was fraidy. That told me out it's tight. 434 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 1: And when I come to a stop, I was standing 435 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: on my head. It's the way I wound up. My 436 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: feet stuck straight up and I was on my head 437 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: when a skinner quit roller. 438 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: That's a wild story. And I liked it when Cody 439 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 2: said that Teddy came out of the skitterer like a 440 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 2: gray squirrel. This has finally led us to the story 441 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 2: that I came here to hear about. 442 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: The story You want to it too, that stuck along. 443 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: Probably this one has got more purpose. It means more 444 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: to me because it showed me who I was and 445 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: he was the one that's in control of this. 446 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 6: There was a stretch there where it was just me 447 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 6: and him, just the two of us, a pretty long stretch, 448 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 6: and but we were running two trucks, two big trucks. 449 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 6: We're on a pretty good sized track, I mean a 450 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 6: big piece of lamb. And it took a I mean 451 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 6: you had to dive around and you got to this 452 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 6: bluff and there's only one gap in this bluff. On 453 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 6: top of that bluff was one hundred and twenty acres 454 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 6: forty forty forty. We were at the back, so we're 455 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 6: three quarters of a mile in there. I had a 456 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 6: hydrolcoleague on my skitter that was giving me fits. I 457 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 6: couldn't find it. One day I noticed that it was 458 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 6: a little more web back there, so I got downe 459 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 6: skinning logs, and Dad's loading trucks and I thought, I'm 460 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 6: gonna find it, high yall league while he's loading these trucks. 461 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 5: So I get in there and I find it. 462 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 6: So he gets the trucks loaded and I'm on were 463 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 6: fighting with this high y'all coach. Well, I'm under the 464 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 6: skidder and have been for forty five minutes. And he said, 465 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 6: we made out here. It's going to rain. And I said, 466 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 6: let me get this fixed. I've almost got it. I 467 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 6: finally got a foul, so I'm still under there, gone 468 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 6: with it gone. He said, we gotta get out here. 469 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 6: It's going to rain. I said, I almost got it. 470 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 6: Finally he said we got to go. So we jumped 471 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 6: in the truck. I was in the front. And when 472 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 6: I say truck, not talking about a trailer truck, ten 473 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 6: wheeler with a pup truiler both. 474 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 5: Of us and we head out there. 475 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 2: It's important to note that both log trucks are fully 476 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: loaded with over eighty thousand pounds of timber. 477 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 6: And I think we're going to make it, cause it's flat. 478 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 6: It's flat all the way across the top. You get 479 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 6: to that bluff, go down the gap in the bluff, 480 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 6: and it's a pretty good grade down through the field 481 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 6: and you'll kind of level out again. 482 00:26:59,359 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 483 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 6: I'm thinking the whole time, we're gonna get off here 484 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 6: before it starts raining, Like one hundred yards. 485 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 5: Before I get to that gap in the bluff. 486 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 6: It starts raining, and I'm talking about doctor old boy 487 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 6: old robbing them long drops. I mean, it starts poured, 488 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 6: and I break off the gap in the buff and 489 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 6: my jake break's on. I don't realize it, but my 490 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 6: jake break has been on this whole time. Well, that's 491 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 6: not good if it's slipped. I took off fighting. Oh, 492 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 6: I reached up there and killed the jake. I probably 493 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 6: slid ten foot, Max, I just barely slid. 494 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 5: And when I killed the jake break, I was fine. 495 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 5: I w wasn't. 496 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 6: He'sing off the hill. I don't think another thing about it. 497 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 6: I'm halfway down the hill. I ain't had no more trouble, 498 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 6: and I reached down in the floorboard to get up drink. 499 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 5: I had a bottle of water sitting in the. 500 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 6: Floorboard, And when I reached down to get that bottle 501 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 6: of water, I looked out the passenger side of that truck. 502 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 5: He's passing me light rate of speed. It looked what 503 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 5: it looked. 504 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 6: It looked like we were on the interstate and he's 505 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 6: just blowing my doors off. But he's on their our 506 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 6: hands out of nowhere, he's out in the grass. But 507 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 6: the first thing, and I'll never forget this as long 508 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 6: as I as long as I live, when I seen him, 509 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 6: it was like he's going forty miles an hour. 510 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 5: There's not a tire on that truck turning. They're all 511 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 5: locked up. He's sliding. You can take it from there, 512 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 5: and then I'll tell the rest of it. 513 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: Back up a little show you the hard headed stubborns. Yes, 514 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: he was fooling that line. And I've seen that cloud 515 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: and I had a bad feeling. I just which I 516 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: was like, my dad is nervous, fancy, but I just 517 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: had a feeling. 518 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 4: And I never told him it was super dry. Yes, 519 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 4: it was super dry. 520 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: Was a cloud, and I was getting mad at him, 521 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: which you can't tell him nothing. 522 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 4: Just like he did. 523 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: He had to fix that line when I did, And 524 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: like he said, and it's a it's. 525 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 5: A good grade. 526 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 4: It's it's a tenth. 527 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: Of a mile from the top of that to the 528 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: bottom of the field. 529 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 4: And it came. It wasn't belonger. He was a white out. 530 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: It was absolutely white out. And when I broke over it, 531 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: and he hadn't slid just a little bit. And the 532 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 1: truck I was driving, the tars were hard, I mean, 533 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 1: didn't have tread. But when I touched where he had slid, 534 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: that truck left shot like you'd shot out of a cannon. 535 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: He didn't just when it slid, and I drove thousands 536 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: of loads of logs out of the woods. I won't 537 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: say I'm a good truck driver, but I've done it 538 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 1: since sixteen years old, all kinds of conditions. And I 539 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: thought then myself, I mean, I tried everything, but it left. 540 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: And I know Jake brek ain't I flipped the Jake 541 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: break nothing. 542 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 5: He pulled. 543 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 6: He pulled out on the grass. Keep them hitting me. No, 544 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 6: I didn't. I didn't pull nothing. I had no control 545 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 6: the road. It just took off the road kind of 546 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 6: curved left when you fell off the hill. 547 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 4: The tracks, I. 548 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 5: Mean the road we made you just missed me then. 549 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 4: And I pulled the level of trailer. 550 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 5: Nothing. 551 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: I tried to gas and by then I was done. 552 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: I thought, I can I can handle this, I can 553 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: control it. 554 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 4: I thought about. 555 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: Gas and tried that you couldn't shift gears. I tried, 556 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: and it was going and I half over the hill, 557 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: and I know there was one old tree out there 558 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: in that field. There's a cemetery out there, big old 559 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: tree out there. And I thought, my only hope is 560 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: to turn this thing over in the field because at 561 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: the end of that there was nothing but huge timber 562 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the field, big sycamore. I knowed 563 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: what kind of temper and I know when I hit that, 564 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: I was a dead man. I mean, I realized, and 565 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: that was war Eagle. And when you went through the timber, 566 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: you went off bluff and war Eagle. 567 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 4: All that hit my. 568 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: Mind when I was at least forty mile an hour, 569 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: and I thought, the only way I'm going to live 570 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: if I hit that tree out there, that's one tree 571 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: his right's hard. You couldn't And I cut the wheels 572 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: as hard as I could cut him, and nothing happened. 573 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: And this little road coming around to the cemetery and that, 574 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: and then it was Timber. I just cut the wheels 575 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: back straight and I said, Lord save me. That's all 576 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: I had time to do. And I hit Timber. And 577 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: the first one I hit was a big tall for simon, 578 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: not a field for salmon. It was twelve fourteen inches. 579 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: At the stop I hit it, it's like a bomb 580 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: went off. I shird it off and he went by 581 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: my window, the top end first and the button and 582 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: I went. It shirred the mirrors off right in the doors, shirt, 583 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: my stacks off of the truck. It towed when I 584 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: hit it told me out of the sea, and it 585 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: told me right back in the seat. I grabbed a 586 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: stirring wheel and I thought that Timber and I drugged. 587 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: There was Timber running me and I went through that 588 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: and hid the clearing, and I thought, next. 589 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 4: To his war eagle, I'm going off in it. 590 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: I can't remember it's the bluff here, or hopefully it's 591 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: And I drug enough Timber. I come to a dead 592 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: stop in that little opening, and Cody was at my 593 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: door barely by the time I got and he couldn't 594 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: get in, and he got in on the passenger side 595 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: and we sat there and water was absolutely running under 596 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: that truck, so deep, and and he he said, I 597 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: don't want my truck. He's still they're not He said, 598 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: I jerked the brake on it. I wouldn't plumb off 599 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: the hill. And he come running. 600 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 6: He when over and see him going by me because 601 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 6: I knew what was going on. As I was going 602 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 6: out the door, I jerked the bricks and I'm running. 603 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 6: I mean, it's raining like crazy, and I'm running down 604 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 6: across I feel and why I'm running. I'm screaming, Lord helping, 605 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 6: Lord helping. And it was like, I mean, it's poor, 606 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 6: poor and rain. But it was like it was dead silent, 607 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 6: like there's no noise at all until he hit the woods. 608 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 6: When that truck hit the woods, it was like they sounded. 609 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 5: Like a freight train. 610 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 6: I mean, it was like a tornado just instantly, just 611 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 6: the office rack that you've ever heard, and all like 612 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 6: it sees the back, you know, all those he's going 613 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 6: through the timber. I don't know what I'm gonna find 614 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 6: when I get there. And I went running up to 615 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 6: the driverside and he's in there and I say I 616 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 6: can't get in. So I run around and go between 617 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 6: the truck and the training and I bail up in 618 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 6: the passenger side. 619 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 4: Not a scratch on me. 620 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 5: He just sat there look at me like, not what's 621 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 5: not a bruise? 622 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 4: Not a scratch. 623 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: But I split all that huge timber that if I did, 624 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: of course it told the truck and I had I 625 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: drugged trees under the trailer, big old root wads, and 626 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: it bent the house and axle housing on the truck. 627 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: I mean the whole big axle housing with the pumpkin. 628 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 4: It bent one of them plumb back. 629 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: And the Lord spoke to me, I've got to the point, 630 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: which I was always self confident, I mean do and 631 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: I thought I could do. 632 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 4: You got to leave the Lord out. 633 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 5: Of the picture. 634 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 4: He spoke to me. 635 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: He said, Bud, you ain't in control of your life. 636 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 1: You think you can got control. You don't have control 637 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: he does. All I had time to do was say, Lord, 638 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: save me. 639 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 2: The question could be asked, what's the vow you in 640 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: a man knowing who's in control of his life? Why 641 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 2: is that life changing? And I think it goes back 642 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 2: to essential truth. If you think you're in control, but 643 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: you're actually not. You're living in a disconnected state from reality. 644 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 2: Acknowledgment of truth beyond just the intellectual aligns us and 645 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 2: shifts the very place from which we see our life. 646 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: The acknowledgment of God's control in a human's life has 647 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 2: the power to change everything. And Teddy wouldn't know it, 648 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: but this would set him up for what was going 649 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 2: to come later in his life. 650 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 3: Back to the story. 651 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: But you could look and the grass was, oh six ads, 652 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: she's tall. You could look up through that field and 653 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: the grass was you could track it. It was straight 654 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: as you took errol and shot it. And I want 655 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: about eighth of a mile before I stopped. And we 656 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 1: estimated forty to fit, not to exaggerate, but easy, forty 657 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: to fifty million hour that I was sliding eighty some 658 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 1: thousand pounds off of steep hill slip grass. I found 659 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: out that he is the one man's not in control. 660 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: There's somebody mightier than him that's giving breath of life 661 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: and keeps him every day. It's been a good life, 662 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: lots of close calls. God's been good to us, these boys. 663 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 4: It's in the blood. 664 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: From the first story I heard my dad and in 665 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: the woods, and but they're doing it right, I can 666 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: say they honest. You can go to the woods, name 667 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: trash and treat like it would if it's our on. 668 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 6: When people when you talk about a lot of a 669 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 6: lot of people, the first thing I think about is 670 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 6: old boys and so he got hurt bad in the 671 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 6: logwoods there eno even got killed. That's not what I 672 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 6: think about. I mean, there's been way more good days 673 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 6: than we sit here and tell all these stories. I mean, 674 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 6: you tell the you tell the cool stuff of what 675 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 6: people want to hear about, turning scares over and wrecking 676 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 6: trucks and all that stuff. There's way more days. There's 677 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 6: way more good days, you know what I mean. There's 678 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 6: been way way more good days where you went to work, 679 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 6: everything went smooth, you sat down at lunch time. You know, 680 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 6: I can remember being kids when Dad and Eddie was 681 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 6: working together. 682 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 5: You know, we sat down at lunch. 683 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 6: And there's way more of those days that good days. Yeah, 684 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 6: you know, those are actually the memories I have that 685 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 6: I think about when I think about logging. 686 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: It was fun times, fun, you worked hard, yeah, but 687 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: I mean you sit down and talk, yeah. 688 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 4: Enjoyed. 689 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: As we closed our conversation, Teddy reflected on his father 690 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 2: and how he missed him. I thought it was interesting 691 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 2: that he brought this up. 692 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 3: Now. 693 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: Most thing I missavand I do to this day, which 694 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: men Dad got. 695 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 5: I was the. 696 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: Youngest, the baby, and when he was older, I was 697 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: with him, helping him, you know, up to them. But 698 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: go in the old house of her and he could 699 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: look straight ahead and he'd cut his eyes on around 700 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: and they'd come in the door and he's in a 701 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: good mood. He'd get his eyes at you, a little grin, 702 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: and I can I can see that to this day. 703 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: I never once in my life ever hear my mom 704 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: or dad tell me they love me. Didn't have to 705 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: I never never heard him. But he didn't have to 706 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: be told, Caddle. It was just a lifestyle. 707 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 5: Then. 708 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 4: It's been a good lie blessed life. A lots of 709 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 4: hard word to the last few years. 710 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: I spent more time outside than I was ever in 711 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: a house because me and Ed was in the woods 712 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 1: coon hunting at night. That's why it hurts bad now 713 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: to be cooped up. 714 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 3: Cooped up, he said. 715 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 2: In early December twenty twenty five, Teddy was diagnosed with 716 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 2: a fairly advanced melanoma cancer. It's times like these that 717 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 2: stabilization only comes from knowing and trusting who's in control. 718 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 2: And if you have ever wondered about Eddie Villines, Teddy's brother, 719 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 2: Caylin's dad, who spoke of being content and wondered why 720 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 2: he wasn't on this episode, it's because four years ago 721 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: he was diagnosed with the rare and debilitating form of dementia. 722 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,240 Speaker 2: Eddie is just seventy years old and he's still hanging 723 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 2: on like two pieces of stove would split from the 724 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 2: same log. Eddie is just as good and strong man 725 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 2: as his little brother. 726 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: I know that, and I thank the Lord every day. 727 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: God has been I think better than me than anybody 728 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: in the world. I can tell that I should have 729 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: been dead. He's brought me through it till now on 730 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 1: this and man, he's been good to me, so this too. 731 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 2: Please pray for Teddy and Eddie the lines, and it's 732 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: my prayer that you and I can have the same faith, joy, 733 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 2: hope and contentment in the midst of life's challenges, which 734 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 2: inevitably will come. 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