1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas, and 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: we continue our journey through the seven Deadly Sins. This 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: week we're looking at a little something called gluttony. I 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: feel like you have to do that every time we 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: talk about one of these sins. Yeah. Well, well, of course, 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if the true glutton would be able 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: to like it would be more of a muffled food 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: joked laugh right, food falling down the face, kind of 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: a you know, wine spilling all over the one's body 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: kind of a thing. Wine spilling. Wow, Yeah, I guess 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: it does have sort of like a boccus like yeah 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: evocation there. Yeah, it makes me think of on Futurama, 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: they have a there's a robot called hedonism Bot, and 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: he his legs are the legs of like a reclining chair. 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: It's like in a reclining state with a bowl of 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: grapes on his chest and as a very Roman air 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: to him. But yeah, so so gluttony is is the 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: sin that's typically associated with massive consumptions of food being 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: really into food, enormous feasts, feast without end and uh. 22 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: If we look to the pages of Dante's Divine Comedy, 23 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: we see we see gluttony show up in both Inferno 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: and Purgatory, and Inferno the pit of the eternal suffering. 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: At the center of the planet, we see a circle. 26 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: This is the third circle, guarded by Cerebus, the three 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: headed dog. You know, the dog is a good symbol 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: of gluttony, so and a dog with three mouths is 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: let's like triple gluttony, right, But but in this circle, 30 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of interesting because it's not what if 31 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: you're not familiar with Dante, it's it's not quite what 32 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: you might imagine for a punishment of glutton's uh. All right, 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: So you have rain hale and snow falling just like 34 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: crazy rain hale and snow, all right, and it's just 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: pummeling the gluttons who are just they're just like held 36 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: to the ground by it, and there's just mud everywhere. 37 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: They're they're wallowing like pigs in this mud. That's kind 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: of they may or may not be excrement. There's um 39 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: that they're described in very doglike terms. And so this 40 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: is where the gluttons are punished now in purgatory, whereas 41 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: we discussed before, this is the mountain that connects Earth 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: to heaven, and souls that aren't quite bad enough for 43 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: hell when they need a little polishing before they can 44 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: get up into heaven, they have to climb this mountain 45 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: terrace by terraces. In each terrace they remove a sort 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: of a layer of grimy sin from themselves, so they're 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: transcending their sins. Right on the sixth terraces of Purgatory, 48 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: you will find these emaciated spirits with sunken eyes, you know, 49 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: all the way back in the and the sockets and 50 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: their their faces are said to resemble the letter M. 51 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: That's how swollen and sunk. Not swollen, but that's how 52 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: sunk in their faces are. And so they're just suffering 53 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: excruciating hunger and thirsts. So in life they had all 54 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: their fill. So if they're going to work off this 55 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: layer of gluttony, they're gonna have to get used to 56 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: the idea of going hungary. I like how Dante just 57 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: dove into the gird task wasn't scared of it. Um 58 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: And but that is part of the human condition, right 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: and um as uh Orson Well says, gluttony is not 60 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: a secret vice. You can see it all over you 61 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: and on the surface. You know, we discussed in the 62 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: past with the most recent one, we did envy, and 63 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about how India is not a fun sin. 64 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: Gluttony is is one that, at least on the surface, 65 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: seems a lot more fun because because I mean, I 66 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I I really like food, 67 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: Like food is not just something I'm just kind of into. 68 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: I really enjoy an excellent meal. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And 69 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the reason why we really 70 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: really enjoy our hardwired yea, and to actually over enjoy 71 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: it sometimes. Yeah. And the thing that gets me about 72 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: gluttony is that there's this level of gluttony that we 73 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: encounter an inferno and impurgatory, this this medieval idea of 74 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: just you know, obsessive feasts and all this, but there's 75 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: like a space age level of gluttony that is only 76 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: possible in this day and age, Like it's a level 77 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: of gluttony that was unimagined in Dante's time well exactly. 78 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: And and and let's even say, like Henry the Eighth right, 79 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: could that's that's someone who could afford to be gluttonous, right, 80 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: had a bunch of resources, master glutton, I wouldn't. I 81 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: would imagine it's fair to say that. I always think 82 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: of him with like huge turkey legs in both hands, 83 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: just waving them around. But in today's world, we can 84 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: all be Henry the Eighth right, I mean, gluttony is 85 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: at our fingertips everything that we've ever wanted, particularly food wise, 86 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: um libations available. You can at least be a glutton 87 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: on you can as far as bad food goes, you can, 88 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: and you could actually be a professional glutton if you 89 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: wanted to. And this would come into play in competitive eating. Yeah, yeah, 90 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: this is what I'm talking about. Competitive eating. There are 91 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: these different levels of your enjoyment of food. There's sort 92 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: of like, I'm eating because I need nourishment for my body, 93 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: and then there's this level I'm eating because I really 94 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: enjoy these tastes and I enjoy the sensation of eating, 95 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm enjoying the the sun a purely sense level. 96 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: But when you start looking at competitive eating, it's it 97 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: seems devoid of either of those things. It is eating 98 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: purely for the act of eating, like and you hear 99 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: some comments, like one of the dudes we're gonna talk 100 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: about here says that he got into it because he 101 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: really likes chicken, and if he really likes the like 102 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: he likes the flavor of things. But still, there's no 103 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: way you're enjoying the flavor of like thirty eight hot 104 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: dogs in a row, you know, and you're certainly not 105 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: eating that for your your well being. It's something completely 106 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: removed from those two necessities. Well, it's eating to an 107 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: absolute obsessive degree to degree um. And I think most 108 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: people are familiar with Chakaro Kobayashi. He is the usually 109 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: a person that you think of when you think about 110 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: stuffing like three and sixty three hot dogs in your 111 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: mouth and under an hour, um, and getting paid handsomely 112 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: for it. But who the person we're going to talk 113 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: about today. His name, um, well, actually he goes by 114 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: a wing a door and you just refer to him. 115 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: He his specialty are his chicken chicken wings. And there's 116 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: a documentary film by Errol Morris called Elwing a Door 117 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: and like a seven minute deal. Yeah, it's not very long, 118 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: it's actually pretty it's worth checking out. We'll link to 119 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: it on the blogs are on the Facebook, but it 120 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: focuses on this five time champion of the Philadelphia wingboll 121 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: Bill Simmons, and how he prepares for these competitions. It's 122 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: just insane. Yeah. I would be tempted to classify him 123 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: as a power glutton. Yeah, yeah, a power if you 124 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: think about a power lifter, he guess that kind of 125 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: powerlifter vibe, except he's he's only lifting things enough to 126 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: stuff in his mouth right, right, and stuff to the 127 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: degree that it's just purely unholy, unholy. And they talk 128 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: about this actually in the documentary, to to the extent 129 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: that he says that he has almost accidentally eaten one 130 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: of his digits his fingers. Yeah, like he said, he 131 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: claims that his his hands are covered with scars because 132 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: he'll just will get so into the I guess he's 133 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, he's achieving flow. He's a transcendent experience for him. 134 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: But it's to the point where he's biting his hands 135 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: and leaving scars because he's eating chicken wings in this 136 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: state of mind focused. Let's talk about how he trains. 137 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: He eats fifteen pounds of food to day when he's training, 138 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: and he drinks three gallons of water day, just sending 139 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: his stomach, right, that's the point of that. And ten 140 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: pounds of tutsie rolls a week. Yeah, this was especially 141 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: growth test because he's not just eating one and then 142 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,559 Speaker 1: swallowing it. Now, he's he's throwing him in his mouth 143 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: and forming them into a massive baseball sized mass of 144 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: tutsie rolls, A giant tutsie roll cut? Is that the 145 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: word like a like a cow choose its cut. Well, 146 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: then there's some vomiting involved there, he's not doing that, right, Well, 147 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: we don't really know. Well, I mean he's doing some vomiting, 148 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: but not in this situation. So he's he's two in 149 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: these tutsie rolls up in there, his baseball size mass 150 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: in his mouth, and then he swallows that. And he 151 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: says it's all about a strengthening his jaws so that 152 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: he can really chomp and chomp during these competitions, but 153 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: also like widening his esophagus right right, And he likens 154 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: it to a snake swallowing a rat. Yeah, he's like, 155 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, if you're eating for you know, your own enjoyment, 156 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: then you should totally chew your food. But competition different story. 157 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: Like chewing is for chumps. Yeah, chewing is for chumps, 158 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: And and and only that he's such a pro that 159 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: when he masters this, he moves on to dog bones, Yeah, 160 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: masticating them normal when and I'm equating a baseball made 161 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: air tutsi rolls its normal human food here. But but 162 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: but this becomes just too mundane for him, so he 163 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: moves on to his dogs chew toys. And he ends 164 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: up like, what is a five pound bag competition of 165 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: raw hide bones? Yeah, and he says he claims that 166 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: he never gets full and that he feels that he 167 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: has an eating disorder. Yeah, because five pound bags of 168 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: raw high bones like these are the if you've ever 169 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: been around a dog chewing one of these things, these 170 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: are those things that the dog too and it makes 171 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: that loud clacking noise that makes your own teeth hurt. 172 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: That's what this guy works on. Yeah. Yeah, and um 173 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: pops I actually has a really interesting article on competitive 174 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: eating and they're talking about what actually happens when when 175 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: you're doing this to your body, and they say that 176 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: muscle stretch when they relax right in the stomach, and 177 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: when we eat a big meal, our stomach muscles relax 178 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: so much that they send a message to the brain, 179 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: which interprets the signal to mean, hey, you've got a 180 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: full belly. Um that our brain stops is from eating anymore. 181 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: That's what normally happens. But they say a good training 182 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: regimen for competitive eating deadens this communication, causing the signal 183 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: to the brain of the brain itself to become less 184 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: responsive to the large volume of food. And this is 185 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: according to Douglas Seidner, m d. Program director for Clinical 186 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: Nutrition at the Cleveland Clinic. So it's kind of mind 187 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: over matter. Yeah, yeah, it's mind over manning, mind over 188 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: mind over anything. That you eat yourself into a numbness 189 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: and you deaden your urge to up eating, which is 190 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: just incredible, incredible. It is one way way to put it. 191 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: L Wing a door. He's he's pretty amazing and he 192 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: has some or or when he is his I'm not 193 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: sure if he's active at the moment, but when he 194 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: is active sometimes he is accompanied to the eating platform, 195 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: the gluttony ring, whatever you wanna call it by he 196 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: has he has a valets who are called the wing 197 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: at the wing at Yeah, so if anyone is particularly 198 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: taken with this man, you can probably get in touch 199 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: with them and see about becoming a wing at and 200 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: be one of his wing women. Yes. Yeah, and that 201 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: not only do they cheer for him, that they actually 202 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: sort of ore backup counters for him, right, don't they 203 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: sort of? From from what I remember, they actually are 204 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: counting the amount of food items that he's stepping down 205 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: his gullet, helping to corroborate his win. Yeah, because you're 206 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: gonna need somebody to keep track of that. I mean, 207 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: like when I'm swimming or doing yoga. You know, it's 208 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: like I can't keep track of how many laps or 209 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: how many sin citations have done. It's like I need 210 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: somebody else. Does tell me now we're at number five 211 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna get wrong. So you need some lamb ats? Yeah, 212 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: I need some. But the reason why I bring it 213 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: competitive eating is because this actually sort of informs the 214 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: conversation on gluttony, and not only just gluttony, but obesity 215 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: and um, how our body actually responds to eating. It's 216 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: really pretty fascinating. Physician Jane jack Wang of Brookhaven National 217 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: Laboratory and his colleague Nora Volcal observed that ABC and 218 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: drug addiction alter the same brain circuits UH. In their studies, 219 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: Wang and Volcal found that both drug addicts and obese 220 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: people are usually less sensitive to dopamine's rewarding effects. So, 221 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: as we all remember, dopamine is a neurotransmitter. It delivers 222 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: the high that we feel um our brain perceives when 223 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: we eat food or we were to say, if you 224 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: have drug addic or to have some cocaine. Um. So 225 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: this means that both drug addicts and um obese people 226 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: have to chase after a stronger dose of food or 227 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: drugs in order to get a decent bump of that dopamine. Yes, 228 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: that whole trait chasing the dragon type thing, when we've 229 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: all heard examples of it with like an extreme case 230 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: like like heroin, where you an individual individual have that 231 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: first taste of heroin and it'll be this amazing, just 232 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: overpowering experience, but they never get that same experience again, 233 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: like the rest of their lives then is assuming they 234 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean and hopefully they're able to get away from it, 235 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,599 Speaker 1: but if they don't, the rest of their lives is 236 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: about chasing that high, chasing that that dragon that they 237 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: met that first time. Right, And it's really interesting to 238 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: see this in food and obesity, and and see that 239 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: that's increased or excessive stimulation just creates more decent citation 240 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: with dopamine. And then yeah, again that vicious circle kicks 241 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: in and you've got increased desire and decreased payoff at 242 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: the same time. I have to say I did have 243 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: a really good, like brunch sandwich of this place, and 244 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: then they caught it a Napoleon complex. I don't know why, 245 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: but but it had breathe and bacon or Canadian bacon. 246 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: I'm not sharing like fig spread. It't was sounds like 247 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: this really nice toasted bread. The first time I had 248 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: it was amazing, and then I went back to have 249 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: it again and it was it was it was all right, 250 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: and then it's like each time it's like a little 251 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: a little further removed from that original experience. My own 252 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: meager comparison to that was the sandwich on stilts or something. No, 253 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out why I'm telling it 254 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: that the Napoleon I don't know, it's really At one 255 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: time I had to order it and there was a 256 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: short person at the table and it was really kind 257 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: of weird because I was like, I'll have that sandwich, 258 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, and he just made it even more like yeah, 259 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: and then it became even more of a thing. The 260 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: server was like, what sandwich? That sandwich? Oh, the Napoleon, 261 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: the really short one. Stilts to make it feel better. 262 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: It would be cool if it were on stilts. But well, yeah, 263 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: My point is the sandwich was dope, and that it 264 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: actually I mean, yeah, nice, nicely done. So um Whang 265 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: looks into this problem of obesity and addiction and he 266 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: actually asked him of his while tears in a study 267 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: to come hungry. The torture experiment horrible. It's horrible. He 268 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: has them to describe their favorite meals while he heaps 269 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: up that meal in a nearby microwave so that the 270 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: waft of the smell of it, let's say, the Napoleon sandwich, 271 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: is clearly being transmitted to their brains. And then they 272 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: show a pet scan of the volunteers brains during this 273 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: whole process, and they see that the motivation part of 274 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: their brain goes nuts, okay, and then the orbital frontal cortex, 275 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: which is implicated in decision making, also lights up. And 276 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: then they find that the in the brains of obese people, 277 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: the regions that regulate sensory information from the mouth and 278 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: the tongue are even more active than than other people. 279 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: And they figure out that sensory processing is elevated. Um, 280 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: this is the oh that tastes good part, right, but 281 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: the reward sensitivity is a lower So now this reminds 282 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: me a lot of our podcast about children and Halloween 283 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: candy and about how darn experience sugar in a in 284 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: a kind of different sensory realm than adults do, and 285 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: then most adults do. And in this the experiment that 286 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: really highlights this this idea that that obase individuals or 287 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: individuals with this sort of with this heightened appetite. I mean, 288 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: they are experiencing the food in a different way, which 289 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: which is which I think is a helpful way to 290 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: look at it, because it's easy for someone to to 291 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: look at someone else's problems with food, um and or 292 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: weight and say, oh, what's the matter with you? Why 293 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: can't you control yourself? Why why don't you eat just 294 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: one such the piez instead of four? You know, But 295 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: but if you if you think of it in terms 296 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: of a different sensory experience, it becomes harder to really 297 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: have that kind of judgmental attitude. I think, yeah, absolutely. 298 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: I mean understanding that the brain is actually getting rewired 299 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: so that it has less control um in these situations. 300 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: And in fact, this was explored even more by a 301 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: New York Times sort are called called the Fat Trap, 302 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: and what they found is that weight loss and weight 303 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: control depends. It still depends of us on the simple 304 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: equation of eat less and exercise more, right, but for 305 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: some people it's a lot more complicated. Right, So we 306 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: talked about the brain being changed in that instance. Um. 307 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: They were talking in this article of the Fat Trap 308 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: about something called post diet syndrome, and it's essentially a 309 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: state that your body enters once it's lost at least 310 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: ten percent of its body weight. It becomes biologically altered. 311 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: It's really fascinating. There's a guy named Joseph Proyeto and 312 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: he's a physician at the University of Melbourne and he 313 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: kept wondering why his really really motivated and committed patients 314 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: would gain back at least eleven pounds of the on 315 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: average thirty pounds that they had lost. And these guys 316 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: were like super diligent. Um. The patients that he was 317 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: working with, they had food diaries. Um, they still exercise, 318 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: they did all of this stuff, um. And they were 319 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: on a localori diet essentially at first. But you know, 320 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: they followed up with him for a full year and 321 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: he kept thinking to himself, why do they keep gaining 322 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: this back? Um? And journalist Herapote Parker Pope, who wrote 323 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: The Fat Trap, started to think about this too in 324 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: her the context of her own life, and she started 325 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: to look at all these different factors, um, that could 326 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: be responsible for the inevitability of weight gain. You know, 327 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: no matter if you're abuse or not. But it makes 328 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: it incredibly difficult for people who are obese to maintain 329 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: their weights throughout their whole lives. And we'll talk a 330 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: little bit about why that is when we come back. 331 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: All Right, we're back talking about the post diet syndrome. 332 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: The body has has realized that something is a miss, 333 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: and it's trying to replenish the stores and it breaks 334 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: down in an interesting way. It's the research has found 335 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: that there's a gastric hormone called grillan, often dubbed the 336 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: hunger hormone, and it's about higher There's another hormone associated 337 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: with suppressing hunger called peptide double y, and it also 338 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: ends up leveling out pretty low. Levels of lepton, a 339 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: hormone that suppresses hungered increases metabolism, also remain lower than expected. 340 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: And then you have a whole host of other hormones 341 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: that are associated with hunger metabolism and they're all significantly 342 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: changed compared to pre dieting levels. Yeah, it's sort of 343 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: cocktail that your cocktails of hormones that get messed with 344 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: in this post diet state, right, so that that grayllin 345 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: is higher, that hormone that tells you that you're hungry, 346 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: so you're more activated in terms of like, hey, I'm 347 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: feeling kind of hungry in your post diet scenario. And 348 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 1: again the left in and the peptide why why are 349 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: both decreased, and those are the things that helps suppress 350 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: your appetite. Another odd finding is that in some post 351 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: diet subject, muscle fibers were acting like slow twitch muscles. 352 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: A slow twitch muscles are actually responsible for less burned calories. 353 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: So you're seeing this other weirdness happening in the post 354 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: diet scenario. And then there's again going back to the 355 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: brains of post dieters, um they were studied by researchers 356 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: Rudolph Libel and Michael Rosenbaum at Columbia University and f 357 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: m r I was used to track the brain patterns 358 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: of people before and after weight loss while they looked 359 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: at objects like grapes, gummy bears, chocolate, broccoli, cell phones, 360 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: and yos, just to put in a couple of non 361 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: food items right and after weight loss. When the dieter 362 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: looked at food, the scan showed a bigger response in 363 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: the parts of the brain associated with reward and a 364 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: lower response in the areas associated with control. Again, that's 365 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: the same thing that we were talking about before, and 366 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: the implication is that the body induces cravings by making 367 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: the person feel more excited about food and giving him 368 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: her less willpower to resist high calorie treat a body 369 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: wants to reset at the higher weight. So I mean, 370 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: how this actually susses out is that it really gives 371 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: someone who's in a post diet scenario caloric disadvantage. And 372 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: what I mean by that is that you could be 373 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: subject a for instance, who is two hundred and thirty 374 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: pounds and you're eating three thousand pounds or three three 375 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: thousand pounds. That's a lot that's even more than l 376 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: winger um three thousand calories a day. But then you 377 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: drop down to one and in order to maintain a 378 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: weight of a hundred and ninety pounds, you eat twenty 379 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: three hundred calories a day. Your counterpart who has not 380 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: been in a dieting scenario, who is weighs a hundred 381 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: ninety pounds, actually could have two hundred and fifty to 382 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: four hundred calories more per day than you to just 383 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: maintain their weight. So that's what this is. This is 384 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: how this is all sort of shuffling out, is that 385 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, when you're in this post diet state, which 386 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: by the way, it could last up to six years um, 387 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: your body really is not going to burn as many 388 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: calories and automatically wants you to reset as opposed to 389 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: your your your counterpoint who isn't dieting at that same weight, 390 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: so you have to burn more and more calories. And this, 391 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: I think is is the sticking point of why people 392 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: continue to creep up on the scales throughout their lives 393 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: or yo yo diet because your your body is sort 394 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: of working against you. Yeah, and it really really becomes 395 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: an issue of like sort of knee versus body, and 396 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: which is which is kind of a false idea because 397 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: we are our bodies and as we discussed before, what 398 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: our guts doing affects what our brain is doing to 399 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: a level that you can't just cut one off from 400 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: the other. But it's also not this situation of um, 401 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: I am you know this is all about me, I 402 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: am going to lose this weight. It becomes this this 403 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: knee and what I want versus the needs of my 404 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: body and the sort of the ideas of my body. 405 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: And it's not our body just trying to be terrible 406 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: to us. I mean how we evolved, right, Like we 407 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: have these you know, big thick brains that require a 408 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: lot of energy. It's sort of like the firefox of browsers, right, 409 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: takes up a lot of energy. But it makes sense 410 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: that we have gluttony hardwired into us because at some 411 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: level we need it. Our brain evolved for us to 412 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: eat an excess in order to survive. Yeah, I mean, 413 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: we we live in a an environment now that is 414 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: rather far removed from from what we originally evolved into 415 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: where we can go and we can in most most 416 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: of our listeners anyway, you're in a position where you 417 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 1: could go out today and you could probably eat just 418 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: as much as you possibly wanted to. There's there's there's 419 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: nothing that that would stop you, and our bodies aren't 420 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: really evolved to deal with that. Right. We didn't know 421 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: that buckets of chicken were just available for you know, 422 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: the drive through. We thought we had to forge for 423 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: this stuff. Now did we mention this? That El wingadore 424 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: the that Errol Morris originally shot the videos an extra 425 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: because he was he was shooting a promotional video for 426 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: KFC Kentucky Fried Chicken we didn't talk about and that's fascinating. 427 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: And so he was like, this is the dude, because 428 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess this was I forget the exact 429 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: time frame that I guess. This was in that era 430 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: of the double down where KFC is like unhealthy food 431 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: for the wind, let's let's market it this way. So 432 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: so Morris is like, this is this is the dude, 433 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: This is the patron saint of double downs. So he 434 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: shoots this video with and he's like, this dude is 435 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: so interesting. This is such a fascinating glimpse into really 436 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: the heart of gluttoning my words, not his. Uh, he 437 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: had to shoot this tim Inte extra where he's just 438 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: talking to wing a door about about it and I 439 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: love that. And as you had mentioned earlier when we 440 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: were talking about this, but you have to see him 441 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: in action with the wings, getting his glutton chops on 442 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: Clinton chops, which is I guess what you call the 443 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: smears of orange hot wing sauce. They're on the side 444 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: of your face when you're fully engorging yourself on chicken wings. Yeah, 445 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: as a vegetarian, because I have never had glutton chops. 446 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: Are there? I might have had soy glutton chops? Are there? 447 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: Soy based or do you think they're vegetarian inter vegan 448 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: eating competitions? No, but you know again, if someone's out 449 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: there and they want to explore that, there you go. 450 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: There's an idea. Yeah. I think it's just sort of 451 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: empathetical to the whole vegetarian vegan thing. Yeah. I could 452 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: be wrong, though, I think it tends to be. Well. 453 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the future of gluttony, because there's 454 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: always a future for gli Yeah, I mean, you know what, 455 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: Like I said, we've reached the space age of gluttony 456 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: with the eating competitions, But I think humans could be grosser. 457 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: I think we have it in ourselves too to do 458 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: more well. I think that you know, there's there's the 459 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: possibility that we could actually create the vomitorium. Right. We 460 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: used to think that in room in times that there 461 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: was something called a vomitorium that we would eat And 462 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: maybe there was a vomitorium, but it was it was 463 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: not a place where you throw up your food so 464 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: you can eat more. It was just an architectural flourish, 465 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah, yeah, that people mistook for like this 466 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: big communal place where you just threw up after you yeah, 467 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: which is a factless gluttonous idea of that doesn't exactly exist. 468 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: But in the future we might actually be able to 469 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: manage food in a way that we could overeat and 470 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: in a way get rid of all of this access 471 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: and that is through lefton Again. We talked about left 472 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: in as being something that could uh that is very 473 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: helpful and appetite suppression, and scientists at Columbia University have 474 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: conducted several small studies looking at whether in injecting people 475 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: with lepton can override the body's resistance to weight loss 476 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: and help maintain a lower weight. And this is in 477 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: a few small studies, left injections seemed to trick the 478 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: body into thinking it's still fat and after left in replacement, 479 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: and this is really interesting. Study subjects burned more calories 480 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: during activity, and in brain scan studies, left in injectons 481 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: appeared to change how the brain responds to food, making 482 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: it seem less enticing. So you would like stick a 483 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: syringe of lefton in one end and a meatball sub 484 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: in the other, and and they would they would balance 485 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: each other, right, right, they just cancel each other. But 486 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: of course this is a sort of a new treatment 487 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: and not something that's been widely studied and is probably 488 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: years away for use. Right, she took on for cheese steak. 489 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: Why did they go from meatball? Cheese steak as much grosser? 490 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: Do you think that's more glad as the meatball? Yeah? Yeah, 491 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's basically the same. Both are lots of 492 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: meat and some cheese on giant pieces of bread. But 493 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: there's something about the cheese steak that's a little vialer. 494 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: I guess maybe because it's protein on protein, I guess. Yeah. 495 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: It seems like there's a show I was watching and 496 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: it was like they were profiling these different chefs and 497 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: their favorite foods in different cities, and like every city 498 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: has its own cheese steak. I feel like I've done 499 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: this rent before, but I have a thing against cheese sticks, 500 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: all right. I think we're gonna have to have a 501 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: Science of Cheese Sticks podcast coming up. Um. Here's another 502 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: thing that is that on the cusp of our understanding 503 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: and perhaps harnessing this information, something called brown fat are 504 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: fat cells that consume calories and release heat. Yeah. And 505 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: if you're not driving or riding a bicycle or anything 506 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: like that, you can you can probably reach up around 507 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: your neck and you can sort of feel yourself a 508 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: little a little brown fat, right, because that's where the 509 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: human body tends to store it doing it right now, Yeah, 510 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: we have a nice little padding there. Um. It is 511 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: important because researchers actually think that, um, this could help 512 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: turn white fat into brown fat, and you could actually 513 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: burn more calories and you could possibly do the spy 514 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: exercising they have seen in subjects that exercise can create 515 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: brown fat out of white fat. Yeah. And this brown 516 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: fat is remarkable because rather than storing excess energy, the 517 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: fat actually burns through it right. Yeah. And and previously 518 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: we kind of only thought that it was like a 519 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: rodent or human newborn thing. Rats are babies, one of 520 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: the you know, they were the only ones who who 521 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: are really that into it. And we would and generally 522 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: if you would see a lot of brown fat in 523 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: the human, an adult human, it meant that there was 524 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: some sort of generally, there was some of the kind 525 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: of health ailment going on that unbalanced things. Yeah, but 526 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: they have a much better understanding and this, I mean, 527 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: this is only like three years old information right now, 528 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: we're still figuring out. Yeah, like there that they even 529 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: figured out that brown fat exists in adult humans. And 530 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: again to go back to the rodents. Um. At first, 531 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, they thought, okay, well, rodents can't shiver and 532 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: they use brown fat to keep warm, and so do 533 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: human infants, who also don't shiver very well. And then 534 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: they thought, well, once humans lose their brown fat after infancy, 535 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: the shivering response kicks in and we no longer have 536 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: a use for the brown fat. And that is not true. Um. 537 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: They actually found found that younger women have more brown 538 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: fat than say, older men, Thinner people have more brown 539 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: fat than um than larger people. So they're still trying 540 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: to figure it out. And figure out how to actually 541 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: manipulate it for own use. And it's one of those things. 542 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: Could be problematic though, because the people who have the 543 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: most active brown fat are generally individuals with cancer or hyperthyroidism. 544 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: So right, and again hypothrotoism in cancer, assuming that you 545 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: probably have whittled down to a weight that's not that 546 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: is no longer healthy. Right, So yeah, it's got its limits, 547 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: but that could be an interesting future in terms of 548 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: fighting off gluttony. Another possibility. This would be far future. 549 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: And I feel like I've mentioned this example before, but 550 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: an Ian m Banks culture series, the denizens of the 551 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: culture who you know, they've been genetically advanced to the 552 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: point where they can they can release random drug like 553 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: chemicals into their body just thinking about them. Uh, they 554 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: have these you know, the benevolent robots that look after them. 555 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: But they can also bypass food or beverage. So like, 556 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: if an individual wants to have another cocktail that doesn't 557 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: want to feel the effects of that cocktail, they can 558 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: bypass it straight through. Well not straight through, well, that 559 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: would it be the effects of that cocktail later on? 560 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: I mean you still want to hit the reward center, right, 561 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: I think they would just you would get the taste 562 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: would be like chewing a food and then spitting it out, 563 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: or I guess it would be a little they would 564 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: get like a little bit of the I got the 565 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: impression it was. It was like, I want to enjoy 566 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: this food, but I don't want to actually digest it 567 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: and I don't Or I want to enjoy this beverage, 568 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: but I don't want to actually take into the alcohol 569 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: into my system. So it's like they have a separate 570 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: line just for purely recreational food and beverage. I like, 571 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: that's just like two different digestive systems in a way. 572 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: The one digestive system doesn't really work. I'm just trying 573 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: to think how we can fit this into our own 574 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: little uh worldview in the future. Possibility of having two 575 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: different digestives systems, Yeah, I mean, of course there are 576 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: other possibilities too in terms of the future of gluttony, 577 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: Like imagine being able to plug yourself into a virtual 578 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: environment where you just eat all you want. Yeah. With that, 579 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: with that, say, you you know, I wonder if that 580 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: would chick in again with the reward center and openmine, 581 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: if that would be released situation. Maybe maybe it's it's 582 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: such a far future possibility, like you would have to 583 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: we're talking, we would be talking more than just like 584 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: strapping in some goggles and some haptic gloves and you know, 585 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: going through a city made out of cheeseburgers. It would 586 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: you would have to have a much more like neurologically 587 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: plugged in system for that to take place. And by 588 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: that point, who knows what else would have figured out? Well, 589 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: and then do you think in that realm that more 590 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: people would become competitive eaters? That's my question. Maybe, but 591 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: it would be a crazy like the competition would just 592 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: be off the charts. I mean, how would you even 593 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: clock that. I don't know, I don't know somehow someway 594 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, you know this will come out like a 595 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: couple of weeks later, but that we were recording this 596 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: on ash Wednesday before a lot of people will go 597 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: into like some sort of Lenten fasting or saying I'm 598 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: not gonna eat fried foods except on feast days kind 599 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: of a thing. So, but that's kind of that's that's 600 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: kind of perfect. Yeah, yeah, talking about sins and lent 601 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: and gluttony. Shall we bring the robot over? Yes, bring 602 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: the robot over with his fat sack of mail. All right, 603 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: and this this is rather fitting as well. We heard 604 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: from a listener by the name of Aaron. Aaron all 605 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: right sin and says hello, Robert and Julie. I just 606 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: finished listening to your Absolute Disgust podcast in which you 607 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: mentioned the Kloaka bot, which you have just to specify, 608 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: because I guess we do mention that creation a lot. 609 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: Last week, I was lucky enough to take a trip 610 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: to Tasmania for my twenty fifth birthday, Happy Birthday, and 611 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: whilst I was there, I visited the Mona Art Gallery. Um. 612 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: It was here I got to experience the Kloaka Bot 613 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: for myself, close up and somewhat personal. Upon arrival of 614 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: the gallery, I wasn't too familiar with Wim Delvo's work, 615 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: so when I walked into the room that contained the bot, 616 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: I was a bit caught off guard. There was a 617 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: quote in some of the information that was given to 618 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: me about the bot that pretty much sums up the 619 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: artwork for me, and it was a bit tedious to 620 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: watch and stinks. Um. I was captivated by the contraption 621 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: as it looked like something could have come out of 622 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: the original wallet Willy Wonka film, and once I realized 623 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: what the piece was, I was intrigued to find out more, 624 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: but I also was soon impulse to get out of 625 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: the room quickly. I can only describe the smell as unsettling. 626 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't a smack in the face stinch, but more 627 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: of an unearthy, grumbling deal in the back of your 628 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: throat kind of smell. Um that, as much as I 629 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: wanted to explore the machine more, I couldn't stay in 630 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: the room. Uh. There were a few other smaller versions 631 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: of the cloak a bot. My favorite was kloak A 632 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: number five that we're in a separate room that I 633 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: mustered up lung capacity to do a quick trip round 634 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: to peak at all the inner works of these machineries. 635 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: It was a smell a yet intriguing experience. And then 636 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: she goes on to point out that her perhaps her 637 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: only major disgust these mangoes. You know what, I actually 638 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: understood that what's really because they're slimy um, and they 639 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: don't for me. They don't pack the punch of like 640 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: a peach or you know, some other fruit in the 641 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: same category. Uh well, I mean I love mangoes, that 642 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: they are a bit temperamental. They're one of those fruits 643 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: when you buy them that and you will never really 644 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get. Like a banana, banana is 645 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: pretty consistent. I mean assume that you can tell on 646 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: the outside what a banana is probably doing on the inside, 647 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: and and you know what you're in for. But like 648 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: a mangoes, kind of like a cantaloupe, the candleop is 649 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: one of those where sometimes sometimes the candlop is amazing 650 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: butt al, though sometimes it's just kind of yeah, just 651 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: to payoff is not so great. I get this, we 652 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 1: shouldn't see anything about sliminess, but I understand it from 653 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: that perspective. But apparently in Australia that makes for a 654 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: bit of a un Australian, very UnAustralian odd personal fruit, 655 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: the golden fruit. Right, she's been shunned for an unliking him. 656 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 1: We'll presumably I would say, well, may me your man 657 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: goes then, but that would be disgusting because by the 658 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: time I got here, would they would just be grotest 659 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: package full of insects and slide. Anyway, She closed by 660 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: saying love listening to your podcast, along with lots of 661 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: other podcasts from you folks at hs W, thanks for 662 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: blowing my mind on a weekly basis. So yeah, but 663 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: that was an excellent to you know, definitely hear about 664 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: and more about like firsthand knowledge of the clay butt. 665 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: I love that people are out there meeting it for us. Well, 666 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: it's on my bucket list now. I've heard so much 667 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: about it and I've read so much about it. I 668 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: just I've got to see it in the flesh. Yeah, 669 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: poor choice affords. All right, Well, there you go. Gluttony. 670 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: We would love as always to hear your input on 671 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: this topic. What is your perception of gluttony? What is 672 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: your experience with gluttony? What do you think about professionally 673 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 1: eating contest? Have you ever participated in one? And uh 674 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: and what do you think about a nice friendly vegan 675 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: eating competition? Is that against everything that you can stand for? 676 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: Or would it be kind of interesting? I don't know. 677 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: You can find us on faceboo. Look it is stuff 678 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: to blow your mind and uh oh, we're also on Twitter. 679 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: You can reach out to us there at Blow the 680 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: Mind and you can always send us an email to 681 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: Blow the Mind at Discovery dot com. 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