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Speaker 1: We welcome you to this edition of the Official Titans Podcast,

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Speaker 1: better known as the OTP. My name is Mike Keith,

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Speaker 1: joined by Amy Wells. Hello, Titans Radio's Dave McGinnis, and

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Speaker 1: from Titans online dot Com, Senior writer editor Jim Wyatt.

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Speaker 1: Like Keith, glad to be here. Jim Watt has a

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Speaker 1: lot of papers spread out. He's preparing for the broncos.

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Speaker 1: I gave him some some data this morning, a look

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Speaker 1: at the Titans new roster, and I do rosters for

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Speaker 1: obviously for both teams. With the Titans new sort of

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Speaker 1: look based on the changes to the main roster and

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Speaker 1: to the practice squad, there have been some changes in

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Speaker 1: different ways. Obviously, Daylon Dawkins stays on here, but the

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Speaker 1: print that we use for his name changes because he's

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Speaker 1: on the active roster, so he goes from practice squad

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Speaker 1: to active roster. David Quizenberry flips the other way question

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Speaker 1: Barry was on the active roster and now he's on

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Speaker 1: the practice squad. But Titan's have a new kicker, Dave McGinnis.

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Speaker 1: They say goodbye to Cairo Santos after an OH for

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Speaker 1: four performance, which you said was the first in twenty

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Speaker 1: two years since cole Ford for the Raiders, Yes, nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety seven. It's a club you don't want to be in. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's club you don't look that. That's

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Speaker 1: the life of a kicker in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these guys really exist in a different orbit

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Speaker 1: than any of the other players in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: When there's a select there's a select group of them

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Speaker 1: and kickers. I mean, we've been really blessed since I've

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Speaker 1: some real stability to kickers, and a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: this goes on around the league a lot. Once you

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Speaker 1: get into that carousel of kickers, I mean it rotates

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Speaker 1: and and they're like golfers. I mean, you know, if

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Speaker 1: you follow the PGA tour it all, sometimes you see

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Speaker 1: the best golfers in the world started hitting that thing

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Speaker 1: miles deep into the woods. You know, they lose their swing,

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Speaker 1: they lose their confidence. Uh, it becomes a mental thing,

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Speaker 1: and uh you know, somebody else has to come in

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Speaker 1: And it was the right move. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 1: saw it coming. I mean because you couldn't see it coming.

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Speaker 1: Because Carlo San Santos was very accurate in practices. He

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Speaker 1: was very accurate in games other than missing one kick.

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Speaker 1: I remember watching him in Jacksonville in pregame and he

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Speaker 1: was kicking him from sixty two sixty three yards through

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Speaker 1: But it went fast with him had a bad day

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Speaker 1: and everyone asking well, why Cody Parkey And the reason why,

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Speaker 1: I think it is because that's who was in here

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Speaker 1: out with him. Now his job is to coming here

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Speaker 1: kick and Denver on Sunday. You just don't want to question.

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Speaker 1: That's the whole thing, and that's what the Titans haven't had.

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Speaker 1: It's been like we're in field goal range, go kick it, whoever,

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Speaker 1: whether you're Al del Greco or Joe Nedney or Rob

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Speaker 1: You don't think about it. This is your kicker. We're

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Speaker 1: not changing kickers every week. You look around the league

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Speaker 1: at all the kicker stories and you kind of go,

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Speaker 1: we don't have a kicker story when you do, when

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Speaker 1: you do, it's not funny, it's absolutely right. And I

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Speaker 1: you know, I heard Amy Well say this, and she

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Speaker 1: But she's one hundred percent right. Once she said that

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Speaker 1: she's one hundred percent right. And then if you listen

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Speaker 1: didn't quite feel right. Then I started trying to adjust.

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Speaker 1: And again I go back to the analogy. If you

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Speaker 1: and that's what happened. Well, and kickers are so regimented.

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Speaker 1: and he was talking about this situation from a player's

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Speaker 1: after that that suddenly they've lost confidence in this player,

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Speaker 1: So it changes the way that everybody approaches the game

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Speaker 1: depends on my livelihood do That's just that's just life

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Speaker 1: And Amy summed it up. It's exactly right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: But his overall year was solid. And then he had

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Speaker 1: And so the Titans, as we mentioned, promote Dalen Dawkins,

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Speaker 1: We've talked about Jim White's mailbag on this podcast more

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Speaker 1: in four of the five games, and it makes it

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Speaker 1: a very different style of play for what you want

429
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Speaker 1: to do. I want to turn the conversation to Taylor

430
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: to one right now, not for that for another reason.

431
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 1: So now he's been in the news, as you may

432
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: be aware, but I want to ask you Jim White,

433
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 1: second week back now second week finally getting to play

434
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Speaker 1: with Roger Saffel, something he didn't do in training camp

435
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: because he ran with the second team. Nate Davis gets

436
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 1: a second We assume we don't know yet, but he

437
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: could get a second straight start. That five could play

438
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 1: together again this week after practicing all week. Could we

439
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: hope that they're much more in sync against a Bronco defense,

440
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: which is formidable, you would hope. So, you know that

441
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: that should be a benefit to have those guys finally

442
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: bible to build some chemistry and some cohesion. But guy's

443
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: gonna have to play better. I mean. Roger Stafold stood

444
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Speaker 1: at his locker on Monday and after some people questioned

445
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 1: whether he was trying to pass the buck on Sunday,

446
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: he said, Hey, I've used to giving up one sickle season.

447
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 1: I've given up two in multiple games this year. So

448
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 1: he has to play better, you know. Yes, it's great

449
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: to have Taylor wan bike. He's gonna to play better,

450
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: and he did on Sunday. I didn't get the sense

451
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: that he played especially well. He got the holding call

452
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: ride of the gag, which is a blatant call. He

453
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 1: should have been penalized for a roughness penalty into that play.

454
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: I thought, and uh, and then got into a Twitter

455
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: squabble that we've kind of touched on on money. He

456
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: just needs to concentrate and play football and play better.

457
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what he's here for, and I

458
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: think across the board, I mean, I think that goes

459
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: for everyone. Nate David is going to get better. He

460
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: hasn't played a whole lot. I have optimism toward him

461
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: as he moves ahead. But Ben Jones has had to

462
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: deal with guys on each side of him dealing with

463
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: inconsistencies and one guy's in one week, one guy's out.

464
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: Got to give him credit for at least anchoring the

465
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Speaker 1: line and keeping some trying to keep things on track.

466
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Speaker 1: Jock Conklin, I think would tell you he needs to improve.

467
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: So while it's good that those guys are all back,

468
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 1: you know they've got to perform better and you can

469
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: start building some chemistry, and I think they're probably I

470
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: would think that Taylor, in the wake of maybe not

471
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: playing that well and then being called out, I hope

472
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: those guys get ticked off and kind of play like

473
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: it because some of the stuff that we brought the mailback,

474
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that's kind of feel. Then there's

475
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: this as the passion is missing, and why is this

476
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: team not more upset after games like that, Well, after

477
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: what happened on Sunday, where you get beat the opposing

478
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: team's fan base kind of rubs in your face. Opposing

479
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: teams players rubs it in your face or two and three, Uh,

480
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: get mad and start playing like it. Yeah, you know.

481
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Speaker 1: Let me let me just say one thing about my

482
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: friend Jim White. Hope is not a strategy. Okay, resolve

483
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: as a strategy, go get it done and that you know,

484
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: and that that's that's what that that's what you do

485
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: in the National Football League if it doesn't go right,

486
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: and it never is going to go right. Having there's

487
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: been one team in the history of the league it's

488
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 1: gone undefeated, Am I correct? Correct? Okay? So I mean

489
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: they tell you about it every year, so how would

490
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 1: you ever remember? Yeah, So, look, you have to bounce

491
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: back in the National Football League and you have to

492
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: be able to put yourself get yourself back up on

493
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Speaker 1: the floor, individually, collectively, and then then as a group.

494
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Speaker 1: That's what you do. And you don't do it by

495
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 1: hoping about it. You go do it. But he shouldn't

496
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: could make a difference. He should makes all the difference

497
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: in the world. And getting what I mean. Luan hasn't

498
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: practiced for a month. Nate Davis missed four or five

499
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: weeks whatever it was. That's why that's why you've got

500
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Speaker 1: to practice field, and that's why they're out there all

501
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: the time working on You can't do anything about what

502
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: has happened in the past, the fact that Taylor Luan

503
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: was not here, Okay, he's here now. He's here now,

504
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: and that when he's got to play like the three

505
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: time pro bowler. I mean, I think that's what Jim

506
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: saying is. But would we have a better chance to

507
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: see a more accurate look at him based on the

508
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: fact that he's gotten work under his belt now and

509
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: now he's probably back into some sort of routine. Yeah,

510
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's I don't care how good your heart,

511
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 1: it's hard coming off the street after not playing football

512
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: for a month and all of a sudden being thrown

513
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: in as to where you're playing. I mean, you know,

514
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: there's an instance in the game where they didn't he

515
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: and Roger didn't pass off a game, you know, and

516
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: and it resulted in a in a pressure and then

517
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 1: later on in the game they had the same game

518
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: they passed it off perfectly. So you want to be

519
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: able to do it every time, and that's what the

520
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: practice field is. For let's talk about big people. Big

521
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: jeff is Jeffrey Simmons. He is eligible to come off

522
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: the non football injury list, which is the same in

523
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: terms of the regulations as the physically unable to perform.

524
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Speaker 1: By being put on NFI to begin the season, he

525
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: had to miss the first six games. He is eligible

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Speaker 1: to begin practicing on Monday. People are very excited about

527
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Speaker 1: that possibility. Explain the regulation of what he can do

528
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: after Sunday well as early as Monday. He can be

529
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: on the practice field working and put himself in a

530
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: position to play and without having to be activated initially,

531
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Speaker 1: right and based on what we saw during the course

532
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Speaker 1: of training camp and based on what we've seen in

533
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Speaker 1: that time since, I fully expect him to be able

534
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Speaker 1: to do that right when the window opens up. And

535
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: some people I think scoffed at questions right before they

536
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: cut down to fifty three of whether or not Jeffrey

537
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 1: Simmons could be on there, And I think that that

538
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: was of scenario that was pondered, because that way you

539
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: would have had to wait until after week six. You

540
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: could have started a practice in week three, in week

541
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Speaker 1: four and then getting him in even sooner than a

542
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: Week seven game, but ended up placing him on the

543
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: NFI where they're now dealing with the Certainly the guy

544
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: lives where you can't practice until next money by expecting

545
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: to practice next Monday. And I do think it's a

546
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: realistic scenario that he's out there playing against the Chargers

547
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: the very next Sunday. At the moment that he begins practice,

548
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: you have three weeks to make a decision. But the

549
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: truth is he could play. From a rules and regulations standpoint,

550
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: they could activate him. He could play against the Chargers

551
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis if he does that, having never practiced with

552
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: the Titans, which he has not. He's done things, you know,

553
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: in terms of his rehab. But he was not involved

554
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: in OTA's he was not involved in mini camp, he

555
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: was not involved in training camp. He has not been

556
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: able to practice for the last six weeks. But unlike

557
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: a suspension type situation, he's been in the building. He's

558
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: been here working. How hard would that be for him

559
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: to play against the Chargers a week from sun? Well,

560
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: let's just keep her powder dry, Okay, But that's why

561
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: I'm asking a question, how powder dry on it that

562
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: they're doing. They are doing exactly what they need to do.

563
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: And that's why when you have someone coming off in FI,

564
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: you've got a three week window, right, That's why that

565
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: that's why you do that. And they're going they're not

566
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: going to rush him in there until he is ready

567
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: to play. And I think that what you do my

568
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 1: experience of having brought these guys back, you want them

569
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: at least to go through a couple of weeks of

570
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: practice just to get back into it and start seeing it.

571
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: You start to ramp up because when he first immediately

572
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: goes out to practice, the first time he's on the fields,

573
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: he's not he's going to be testing it. He's not

574
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: going to be going full speed. He's not going to

575
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: be going full at it. And there's a there's a

576
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: lot to it as far as the speed of it

577
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: when it ramps up from practice early on to later

578
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: on practices, and then if you're ramping up into a

579
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: ball game. So he's on a on the right track.

580
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: They've done the right thing with him. We've all watched

581
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: him out there work with Mike Vrabel, we watched him

582
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: work with Todd, We've watched him work with all of

583
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: these guys. We've watched headed the training. So who's doing

584
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: a great job, and we've seen all of this, but

585
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: there's a difference between being able to come back and

586
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: being ready to play a game. Well and two, Coach

587
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: Max point, the last time that he was in a

588
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: football practice or the last time he played a football game,

589
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: was in college. The speed of the game is dramatically

590
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: different at the professional level. So not only is he

591
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: testing an injury, not only is he trying to, you know,

592
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: actually do this game plan and everything that he has

593
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: been taking mental reps on. I think he knows it,

594
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: but to actually execute it is another level. And then

595
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: to execute it at great speed that he is not

596
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: used to is a different layer. But to your caution,

597
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: you're saying, if he does begin practice on Monday, as

598
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: a Titans fan, don't assume that he plays against the charge. Yes,

599
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: that's that's my point, and if he does, it's great

600
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: for everybody. But if he does, it will be because

601
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: he's ready to and they will they will ascertain that

602
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: out here. But don't just assume because he practices, he

603
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: comes back and ready to practice, that he's going to

604
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: immediately play that week. And the other part of it,

605
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: too is I'm guessing he'll be on some sort of

606
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: pitch count. Oh sure, in terms of what he gets

607
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: to do. So if you're preparing for a game, can

608
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: you take him into a game knowing you've only got

609
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: him for so many snaps? Anyway? Is that best to

610
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: try to win this particular game when you don't have

611
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: to activate him for three weeks? Well, in here, then

612
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: that's why you have that three week period, because if

613
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: he's activated on Sunday, do you understand you don't get

614
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: another guy just because he's coming back. You gotta take

615
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: somebody off. And then now how many how many defensive

616
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: line It all has to work. It all has to

617
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: fit together, okay. And so when you take somebody into

618
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: a ball game, and you know, if I'm taking somebody

619
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Speaker 1: in as a defensive lineman, he can only play this

620
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: many snaps, will guess what somebody else is going to

621
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: have to play more snaps to make up for those snaps.

622
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: So it all has to fit one strategy questioned them.

623
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: The Titans have largely been through the course of the year,

624
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: a team that's played two defensive linemen. It's largely Ben

625
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: Jones and Casey, and then they've played five defensive backs.

626
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: If and when Simmons comes back and he's able to help.

627
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: Does he rotate with those guys or do you refunction

628
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: a package if your DMPs where you have all three

629
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: of them on the field more often. Well, the reason

630
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: you've played four two five, it's because you've played a

631
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: lot of eleven personnel teams. Okay, I mean that's you

632
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: know you're getting You're this team that that that we're

633
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: playing this week, they have a fullback. I mean, they

634
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: run a lot of twenty one personnel where you're gonna

635
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: need people down front. You're gonna need people down front

636
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: to be able to go in and take on a

637
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: fullback and do those things. So it's it's personnel matchup packages.

638
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: That is the reason they've been playing so much four

639
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: two five. Because even if people play twelve personnel, which

640
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: is two tight ends and two whiteouts, one of those

641
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Speaker 1: tight ends normally in the National Football League now is

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Speaker 1: just a big receiver that that that's moved out. But

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Speaker 1: if you if you go into this ball game, it's

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Speaker 1: just I mean, this is the same offense of San

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Speaker 1: Francisco's offense. If anybody's watched San Francisco's offense, what they're doing,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're playing there, they've you know, Shanahan has

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Speaker 1: always played with a fullback. Well, that's exactly what's going

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Speaker 1: on right now. They're playing with a fullback. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're playing with a guy that's gonna that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a fullback in there. So that makes a difference defensively

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Speaker 1: how you game plan and how you deploy your personnel.

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Speaker 1: But Ken Simmons play a different position on the defensive

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Speaker 1: line than de Quan Jones and Jurrell Casey to where

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Speaker 1: you could end up with all three of them on

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Speaker 1: the field at the same time. In terms of his

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Speaker 1: skill set, well absolutely. I mean he can play a

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Speaker 1: three technique, he can play a shade, and I mean

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Speaker 1: he could play a five technique. I mean he can

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Speaker 1: do whatever he wants. I mean, and I'm serious when

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Speaker 1: I say that, because when I vetted and watched this guy,

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Speaker 1: I came into your office before we even drafted him,

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Speaker 1: and we're just watching and I said, here's the dude,

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Speaker 1: And now he's our dude. Yes, I like that. Pretty exciting.

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Speaker 1: Be good to get him in there coming off a win.

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Speaker 1: Who by the way, in terms of places you go,

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Speaker 1: where do you rank Denver empower Field Yeah. What's cool

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Speaker 1: is this is the first time we've been there. What's

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Speaker 1: the twenty thirteen, Yes, since the fifty one to twenty

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Speaker 1: eight seven degree game, So there's so much newness to it.

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Speaker 1: Always look forward to going and uh uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: certainly there's some special places around, but we just have

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Speaker 1: been there so infrequently. I'm I'm really looking forward to

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Speaker 1: the to the trup. I'm I'm glad we're going on

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Speaker 1: Sunday and not tomorrow. You know, the forecast tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: Denver is a high thirty low of twelve with snow

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Speaker 1: when it's eighty there today, they're talking about a sixty

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Speaker 1: degree drop from the high today to the low tomorrow

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Speaker 1: and snow and then for Sunday back to seventy. That'll

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Speaker 1: Messenger Sciences. Yes, Denver it is the best visiting locker

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Speaker 1: room set up in the league. Why is that? Because

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Speaker 1: it's it's massive, I mean, and they do I mean

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Speaker 1: and when they when they did, that's redid that stadium.

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Speaker 1: They put so much thought into that and as a

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Speaker 1: as a as a visiting team. You know, I've never

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Speaker 1: worked for Denver, but I played there several times. When

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Speaker 1: in the new one, you pull your buck us right

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Speaker 1: up to the door of the dressing room. You open

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Speaker 1: the bus door and you're right there, okay, And then

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Speaker 1: when you go in, you know sometimes when you're in

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Speaker 1: a visitor's locker room, you know, you know, Hawsey and

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Speaker 1: his equipment guys have got to work with a little

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Speaker 1: cramp space. And then you've got that. It is the

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Speaker 1: best visiting locker room in the National Football League. Space room.

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Speaker 1: You can have defensive meetings, you can have offensive meetings.

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Speaker 1: The coach's dressing room is I mean, it is set

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Speaker 1: up for the National Football League. That's my take on it.

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Speaker 1: Where do you rank it. I've never been to Denver.

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Speaker 1: This is my very first time. It's top five for me,

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Speaker 1: and I tell people if you're gonna make a trip,

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Speaker 1: this is one of the five you should make because

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Speaker 1: the atmosphere is it's it's a college and pro atmosphere combined.

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Speaker 1: Now to me, to me, it is it is up there.

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Speaker 1: To me, to me, my top three as far as

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Speaker 1: if you want atmosphere as a visiting just to go

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Speaker 1: see Denver's one, Green Bay's one, and see as one.

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Speaker 1: I have Kansas City in there too. It's loud in Kansas.

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Speaker 1: It's loud. It's not as beautiful. No, but they're parking

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Speaker 1: lot situation with well, I know, but the baseball is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: The design of what they did to build the baseball

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Speaker 1: stadium and the football stadium together fifty years ago. Fifty

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Speaker 1: years ago they came up and so the tailgating is

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Speaker 1: unreal there. But I'm I'm looking at it from a

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Speaker 1: visiting coach aspect because the visiting locker room at Kansas

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Speaker 1: City trash. I mean it is. It's not fabulous. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's one of it's it's one of those where you

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Speaker 1: better know your buddy real well because you're really close.

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Speaker 1: I'll just say that I don't like stadiums where I

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Speaker 1: have to walk too far to get places. Kansas City

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Speaker 1: you've got a haul, and Green Bay you've really got

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Speaker 1: a haul. I'll tell you what I was. I almost

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Speaker 1: died in Green Bay. All that walk in you get

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Speaker 1: your workout. I like the convenient ones, all right. Jim Watt.

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Speaker 1: Tell people how they can follow you on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: day Wyatt Sports on Twitter and Instagram. Amy Wells at

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Speaker 1: Titans Amy am I E all right? You can follow

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Speaker 1: coach McK and I on Titan's Radio with Amy We'll

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Speaker 1: be on the air at two thirty Central Time on

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Speaker 1: Sunday from empower Field at Bile High. Just feel like

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Speaker 1: you have to be a big voice guy to say

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Speaker 1: that I'm not, but I wish I would. You are

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Speaker 1: my power field at bile High two thirty Central time,

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Speaker 1: three twenty five kickoff, So make your plans for being

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Speaker 1: around the radio. Gather as a family and build a

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Speaker 1: fire for coach Dave McGinnis, Amy Wells and the great

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Speaker 1: Jim Watte. I'm Mike Key. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: listening to today's edition of The Oath Two People