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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us again for another episode of Nightcap.
Speaker 2: I'm your favorite AUNC Jhannon Sharp, he's your favorite, number
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Speaker 2: with us. It's greatly greatly appreciated. So let's get right
Speaker 2: into it, O Joe. The Lakers beat the Nuggets one
Speaker 2: nineteen to one oh eight, snapped the eleven game win
Speaker 2: streak the Nuggets were on. They had won seven straight
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, and if I'm not mistaken, the Lakers
Speaker 2: hadn't beat the Nuggets since December of twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: and they extend the series to a game five, which
Speaker 2: would be Monday. Back in Denver, Lebron James thirty point.
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis had a monster night. He had twenty five points,
Speaker 2: twenty three rebounds, he led the team and assists. D
Speaker 2: Low twenty one points after over the other night Austin
Speaker 2: Reeves twenty one points, and still Nikola Jokic was incredible
Speaker 2: again thirty three points, fourteen rebounds, fourteen assists. Despite Jamal
Speaker 2: Murray is only shooting thirty eight percent from the floor,
Speaker 2: he's shooting twenty five percent from the three and they're up.
Speaker 2: That just goes to show you is not when you
Speaker 2: shoot back, it's when you shoot bad. Because come fourth
Speaker 2: quarter in those first three games, when they needed him
Speaker 2: to make big plays in big shots, he's hitting Yoki.
Speaker 3: You're gonna do what Yokis does.
Speaker 2: So all we can ask Anthony Davis to do play
Speaker 2: him to a stand still, Lebron. That means you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to play a Murray to a stand still or
Speaker 2: exceed what he does. I said, okay, guys, now, let's
Speaker 2: make it three on three. Austin Reeves, de lo RUI.
Speaker 2: You got Aaron, Gordon, Calwell, Pope and Murray. They got
Speaker 2: outplay them and for the first time those three outplayed
Speaker 2: their three.
Speaker 1: Right, I think, yeah, I think I think that was
Speaker 1: the difference in this game. Obviously where Russell d Low
Speaker 1: d Low playing playing well this game and not having
Speaker 1: an offer, and obviously Reeves also had a good game
Speaker 1: as well, and they closed out the second quarter. In
Speaker 1: the third quarter when they did have a lead, they
Speaker 1: had a They had a good third quarter as opposed
Speaker 1: to the to the previous three games before the third
Speaker 1: quarter was really really bad, where obviously twenty point lead
Speaker 1: was blown in a game where they shouldn't have won.
Speaker 1: But tonight they finished, They finished really well, and I'm
Speaker 1: hoping they can the same, keep the same momentum, even
Speaker 1: though even though they're gonna be in Denver, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be difficult and Denver is gonna want to close it out.
Speaker 1: But just let's make the series interesting. Let's make it interesting.
Speaker 1: And I mean, who knows what can happen. Obviously Denver
Speaker 1: being the better team, obviously a d playing like a monster.
Speaker 1: Lebron is gonna do what he does. But I have
Speaker 1: a feeling if the supporting casts for the Lakers outside
Speaker 1: of Ad and Lebron continue to play the way they
Speaker 1: played the night, they have a chance. Maybe not the win,
Speaker 1: maybe not the wind, but at least make the series interesting.
Speaker 2: This is the great This is the greatest playoff series
Speaker 2: I've ever seen Anthony Davis play. Most ends of the court,
Speaker 2: He's given you the points production, he's given you, the rebounding.
Speaker 2: He's going up against the best player in the world
Speaker 2: and he's played him to a standstill. Now we know
Speaker 2: he's not going to have the assist total that Yolk
Speaker 2: has because they don't run their offense through Ad. They
Speaker 2: normally run their offense. A lot of their offense is
Speaker 2: run through Nicola Jokic, and so he's gonna always be
Speaker 2: up there. He's gonna always be somewhere between nine and
Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen assists. You understand that. But you got to
Speaker 2: a keep him off the glass. You've got the out rebounding,
Speaker 2: and you probably got to stay pretty close to him
Speaker 2: in points. And tonight yok had thirty three to fourteen.
Speaker 2: He missed some shots normally around the rim that he
Speaker 2: normally makes. Thirty three points, fourteen rebounds, fourteen assists. But
Speaker 2: it was Anthony Davis and Lebron andd Lo and Reeves
Speaker 2: did what we've been asking them to do for the
Speaker 2: entire series.
Speaker 3: So Lebron James scores.
Speaker 2: Thirty, Anthony Davis has twenty five points, twenty three rebound,
Speaker 2: six assists, in which he led them in that category.
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, d Low had twenty one points.
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves had twenty one points, and they hold off
Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets force a game five back in Denver.
Speaker 2: Nikola yokis thirty three to fourteen fourteen and Murray's is
Speaker 2: still struggling shooting the ball from the floor and the
Speaker 2: three point line. But the best part about this, they
Speaker 2: didn't let this thing get within three, let this thing
Speaker 2: get tied up, because we know he's more than capable
Speaker 2: of taking this game over. So the Lakers stayed off
Speaker 2: elimination and they forced a game five and the Nuggets
Speaker 2: eleven game win streak against them, including seven in the postseason,
Speaker 2: and the Lakers hold on and win.
Speaker 3: Game five is Monday in Denver.
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis this postseason, he's averaging third at one point
Speaker 2: sixteen rebounds, a block and a half a game, sixty
Speaker 2: two percent field goal percentage. You see, and this is
Speaker 2: why so many people get on Anthony Davis. Now, look
Speaker 2: who he's going against. That's the best player in the league,
Speaker 2: and you've given up thirty one sixteen, a block and
Speaker 2: a half on sixty that's the expectations. That's why I
Speaker 2: get upset the ad because you see the skill set.
Speaker 2: You see it, it's on display.
Speaker 1: And matter of fact, the fact that it's on display.
Speaker 1: And remember what Lebron said. I'm not sure if it
Speaker 1: was at the beginning of the season when there was
Speaker 1: a question that arise from my blue from a reporter
Speaker 1: and he said, this was Ad seen. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: this is This is why, because even Lebron knows what
Speaker 1: ad is capable of doing in situations like this. Obviously
Speaker 1: riding to the occasion against you, you saying the best
Speaker 1: player in the NBA, and hell, thirty two points first game,
Speaker 1: thirty two points, a second game, thirty three points, the
Speaker 1: third game twenty five. Tonight, you can't ask no, you
Speaker 1: can't ask for nothing else.
Speaker 2: With sixteen thirty one sixteen a block and a half
Speaker 2: on sixty two percent field goal the problem is they
Speaker 2: need to make sure they keep him active in because
Speaker 2: think about it, he only had one field.
Speaker 3: Goal attemp the other night, in.
Speaker 2: The fourth quarter, in the fourth quarter right the other game,
Speaker 2: he only had four field goal attempts.
Speaker 3: Now give him five, give him six, feed him yo,
Speaker 3: look yo, Kic.
Speaker 2: What Yogic tries to do, He tries to wear you
Speaker 2: down on the other end because he knows he's a
Speaker 2: defensive he's not a defensive guy. So he's going to
Speaker 2: try to take it out of you on the other
Speaker 2: end while you're dealing with him.
Speaker 3: So, Anthony Davis, what you need to do is.
Speaker 2: Take it out of his ass when he has to
Speaker 2: guard you on the defensive meeting and make him suffer.
Speaker 3: Go at it. Go at it.
Speaker 1: But I love what you go ahead, Hey, since Joker
Speaker 1: is not not a defensive guy, obviously he's an offensive guy,
Speaker 1: spectacled on offense.
Speaker 3: Yes, is he?
Speaker 1: Is he a liability on defense or no, he's not.
Speaker 2: For the simple fact he gives you so much offensively, Okay,
Speaker 2: I mean, and he's gonna because I mean, he's gonna
Speaker 2: get rebounds.
Speaker 3: He gives you opportunities.
Speaker 2: The difference in this ball game, O Joe, if you
Speaker 2: go back and look at it, the Lakers won the
Speaker 2: rebounding battle. The Lakers with only one behind in the
Speaker 2: offensive rebounding. Normally, they were getting whitewashed on the on
Speaker 2: the glass. They were losing the offensive rebounding by six
Speaker 2: by seven. Now you only lost it by one. You
Speaker 2: won the rebounding battle. And so as long as you
Speaker 2: can win the rebounding battle, because you can't keep giving
Speaker 2: great good teams. Great teams constantly looks at you. It's
Speaker 2: kind of like at our sport. On third down, you
Speaker 2: let you let a team go get sixty percent on
Speaker 2: third down? Oh you got him? Yeah, you keep let
Speaker 2: the team Okay, it's third down, all right, first down,
Speaker 2: we gotta a third down, first down. Eventually, that's gonna
Speaker 2: catch up with Yojo because they're gonna turn those those conversions.
Speaker 3: They're gonna turn those into points. Right. So congratulations to
Speaker 3: the Lakers.
Speaker 2: Something that I did not think I would be saying
Speaker 2: is that the Lakers forced a game five Lebron got.
Speaker 2: This is probably the most agitated I've seen him on
Speaker 2: a call with Mert when the swung and the ball
Speaker 2: went out of bound and he said, I didn't touch it.
Speaker 2: Challenge it. And normally normally they deferred to their franchise player,
Speaker 2: the great players. If Johannis want somebody, if he does this,
Speaker 2: whether they think it or not, they're gonna challenge it.
Speaker 1: Challenge it, right, yo Hey, Mike and Lung's.
Speaker 3: Gonna challenge it. Steph Curry says this, They're gonna challenge it.
Speaker 2: And so he was so agitated he was going that
Speaker 2: Darwin Ham they backdoor get a layup and he he
Speaker 2: was like, uh uh, he's like when I say, when
Speaker 2: I say challenge it challenging because they did.
Speaker 3: They did.
Speaker 1: They did the second time they did with d Low
Speaker 1: with d Low and that ball went out and he
Speaker 1: hit that finger Darwen in hesitate that second time and
Speaker 1: they got and they got the ball.
Speaker 3: They got the ball.
Speaker 2: It had to have gone out the way he said,
Speaker 2: because for Lebron to get that animated, Yeah, that ball
Speaker 2: had a going off of him. Do you understand what
Speaker 2: people would have said, So for him to get as
Speaker 2: animated and as dejected as he did when they didn't
Speaker 2: challenge it and they got a bucket on the I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I ain't even need because I don't
Speaker 2: know why they didn't even reach it because the referee
Speaker 2: handed the ball so quick to the Nuggets because they
Speaker 2: was away because if you look at it, go back
Speaker 2: and look, the camera didn't even really see the back
Speaker 2: door until at the very end because the official gave it.
Speaker 3: To him so quick.
Speaker 2: Right, But they hold on the wind not a big
Speaker 2: that glad that played didn't come back to buy.
Speaker 1: Them Oh choe, yes, sir.
Speaker 2: The Celtics beat the brakes off the Heat. The Heat
Speaker 2: wasn't on today, one zero four to eighty four. After
Speaker 2: franchise record twenty three or forty three from the behind
Speaker 2: the arc and the game to victory, the Heat went
Speaker 2: back to looking ordinary. They shot nine of twenty eight
Speaker 2: from the three.
Speaker 1: That's why we lost. You just said it. You just
Speaker 1: you just you just said why we lost shooting nine
Speaker 1: for twenty three from the three when we didn't look
Speaker 1: like that at the last game and we shot them.
Speaker 1: We beat the Celtics at their own game last time.
Speaker 3: We played them, y'all.
Speaker 1: Did I mean? Hell? I mean, there's there's not much
Speaker 1: I can say. Obviously, we have to shoot a high
Speaker 1: efficiency in order to beat them, especially with the absence
Speaker 1: of argument. I mean, he is our best player.
Speaker 2: Right, Jimmy, Yeah, I would say bam. But okay, I
Speaker 2: get what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, yeah, you get what I'm saying. So you
Speaker 1: you you got to shoot. You got to shoot a
Speaker 1: fishing from the field when when he's out across the board.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're, we're They just have the better team,
Speaker 1: they have the the better matchups. It's just it's not fair.
Speaker 1: And if we're gonna win. We got we got to
Speaker 1: be a fishing man. And I mean it to me.
Speaker 1: It pains me to say this.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't think we have a
Speaker 1: chance anymore.
Speaker 3: Yah, you got a chance to make me my money? Okay,
Speaker 3: I tell you what I do. Ojoe?
Speaker 1: What WHOA?
Speaker 3: Come on?
Speaker 1: Come on? Come on? We bet owe you money?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no owe me yet? You don't owe me yet.
Speaker 2: Now I'll let you buy. We been five hundred A yeah,
Speaker 2: we been five hundred. I owe you one hundred. I'll
Speaker 2: let you bow, so that'll be four hundred and five.
Speaker 5: Win.
Speaker 3: You can buy it right now for three hundred.
Speaker 1: Wait, I bet on the series, right you did? We
Speaker 1: only's two? Well but see what two to one one? Oh?
Speaker 3: We're good? Were good? Were good?
Speaker 1: Look good good, We're good. Because listen, we're not gonna shoot.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna shoot nine to twenty eight or whatever
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 3: You are gonna shoot twenty three or forty three either?
Speaker 1: Oh you you you think we're gonna have a repeat
Speaker 1: what you just saw tonight.
Speaker 2: No, but I don't think y'all go shoot the franchise
Speaker 2: play our record twenty three.
Speaker 1: Either okay, say less, say less, best still on best
Speaker 1: still like okay, okay, okay, you want to creasey, do
Speaker 1: what whatever you want. Man, listen, make it light on yourself. Baby,
Speaker 1: that these pockets over here run deep, because I don't
Speaker 1: spend no money. So whatever you want to do, make
Speaker 1: it light on yourself. Huh. Throw it on the floor
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna pick it up.
Speaker 3: Were you want to.
Speaker 2: You want to put another five on it, We'll put
Speaker 2: another five on it.
Speaker 3: Then good. I mean, I thought I thought that. I
Speaker 3: thought I feed. I thought I feed. Got stuck because.
Speaker 1: You put another five on it, then put another for you.
Speaker 1: You got the right one, You got the right one.
Speaker 1: Scared money, don't make no money?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. I like that. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1: I know you know that. I know exactly what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do.
Speaker 3: We bet all. They said we bet two hundred, so
Speaker 3: that's bet another two hundred.
Speaker 1: So you try to jim me, try to jip me.
Speaker 1: I thought you try to steal my money.
Speaker 3: Man takes what we did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, chat, I appreciate that. I appreciate that's love. I
Speaker 1: appreciate y'all.
Speaker 3: Hello. I think what do we better? We bet something?
Speaker 2: Okay, you owe me four hundred from this year betting
Speaker 2: on your boy because Darius Tony and Zach Wilson, you
Speaker 2: better your boy.
Speaker 3: So I was up.
Speaker 2: I was so I was up. I'm still up. Actually,
Speaker 2: actually I bet you we bet five hundred. You owe
Speaker 2: me four hundred.
Speaker 1: So I was down one hundred, right, Okay, So now
Speaker 1: about about to be a You're taking the money. You're
Speaker 1: taking the money from football season, and you carrying over
Speaker 1: like you're doing the math problem. You carrying over the
Speaker 1: over the money. That's how it works to the next bet. Yeh, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: say let's I.
Speaker 3: Mean, have you ever got anything on credit? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, my face is clean, especially here in Miami. Yeh,
Speaker 1: get a lot of things on credit.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, that's what you do. So they carried over if
Speaker 2: you don't play the bill, Like what week they running
Speaker 2: all over to the next week when you get some
Speaker 2: more stuff. So the Heat lose to the Celtics one
Speaker 2: o four to eighty four and it's a two to one,
Speaker 2: so Boston seize his home court back the MAVs look
Speaker 2: hollo on.
Speaker 3: The MAVs took a two to one series lead.
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook, J Washington with both dejected after Chippy played.
Speaker 2: Kawhi is questionable for Sunday's Game four after short and
Speaker 2: game three. He did very little to inspire confidence that
Speaker 2: that knee inflammation will allow him to save the Clippers.
Speaker 2: Eg had his worst field goal percentage to five ratio.
Speaker 2: He gave the Clippers two losses. He has as many
Speaker 2: files ten as made field goals out of twenty five attempts.
Speaker 2: Hard had more turnovers in game three five than in
Speaker 2: the first two games combined.
Speaker 3: It's just this is just not a good matchup for them, Ojoe.
Speaker 2: For the simple fact those two guards they don't have
Speaker 2: an answer for right, and their bigs are active. So
Speaker 2: they get to the get to the they get start
Speaker 2: getting in the land, and you start focusing on them,
Speaker 2: and then they just lob it up and they go
Speaker 2: lively and they go gaffer boom, boom boom. And with
Speaker 2: Paul George playing the way he's playing and Kawhi limited, well,
Speaker 2: you need the beard. See now, after the first game
Speaker 2: we've been getting James Harden. I told y'all, y'all they
Speaker 2: need James RDT, y'all needed this beard.
Speaker 1: That's not nice.
Speaker 3: That's not nice.
Speaker 1: But go ahead, and.
Speaker 3: So that's what and that's what's happening.
Speaker 2: So in order when you're one of your best players,
Speaker 2: and I believe Kawhi is the best player when he's down,
Speaker 2: other guys have to step up their play. And right
Speaker 2: now they're not getting that kind of production from PG.
Speaker 2: They're not getting that kind of production from James, and
Speaker 2: Russ got himself in foul trouble, and you know, he
Speaker 2: didn't really give him that that energy off the bench
Speaker 2: that we know he's capable of, right.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, obviously Rush Rush was overe over seven
Speaker 1: from the field, he had nineteen minutes played, and he
Speaker 1: was suspended for his antics, obviously ejected and yeah, sar ejected,
Speaker 1: but he was ejected or forrest antics obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: not being able to control his emotions. Will that affect
Speaker 1: the Clippers in the next game, even even though he
Speaker 1: didn't give him much to night. We know what Russell
Speaker 1: is capable of doing. In order for them to actually
Speaker 1: win this series. I think they're gonna need contributions from
Speaker 1: every from everywhere, from every one for that matter. And
Speaker 1: obviously the Beard, the Beard or James Harden, whichever one
Speaker 1: you want to you want to call him. We hope
Speaker 1: he can play like he did. Was it game one
Speaker 1: for game two? Yes, yes, yes, yeah, we need we
Speaker 1: need him, especially with Kawhi being limited. We need the
Speaker 1: Beard to play at the highest level he can.
Speaker 3: You need.
Speaker 2: What you need is Paul George to be what he
Speaker 2: said he is, which is playoff p We know he
Speaker 2: can get it going. We know he's capable of giving
Speaker 2: you an efficient twenty plus. We know he could get
Speaker 2: in the thirties. We've seen him go score forty. This
Speaker 2: that's Paul George right here. With Kawhi being limited and
Speaker 2: potentially out, you're not getting past You're not getting past
Speaker 2: the maverage.
Speaker 3: You're not You're not.
Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to find a way to get
Speaker 2: somebody more involved to go along with James Harden.
Speaker 3: And when James Harden plays well, he needs another guy. Now.
Speaker 3: The got great production in the first game.
Speaker 2: Remember the first game, Zubas gave him twenty and fifteen,
Speaker 2: which was a career playoff high.
Speaker 1: But a big man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what you need.
Speaker 2: If one of my guys give me something, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: need somebody that I'm not even really expecting a whole
Speaker 2: lot from. I don't need him to give me something
Speaker 2: at also, like you say, I'm gonna need him to
Speaker 2: put something on it, and right now lately they haven't
Speaker 2: had anybody to put anything on it. And so you
Speaker 2: see Luca, you see Kyrie doing what they do. But
Speaker 2: Lively has come in and he's been very active. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think he had probably about six dunks. I mean
Speaker 2: he was dunking everything. And that's what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to finish and leave no doubt. So that
Speaker 2: series is two to one.
Speaker 1: One yeah, two one MAVs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it doesn't it doesn't look good for Kawhi.
Speaker 2: And look, Kawhi is never going to be the same.
Speaker 2: There's only so many times that a doctor can go
Speaker 2: into the body. But that adversely affected you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same part of the body at that yep, yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, that's unfortunate.
Speaker 3: The Suns go down three to oh.
Speaker 2: The timber Wolves are one win away from winning the
Speaker 2: first playoff series since two thousand and four. The song
Speaker 2: The Son's Home Crowd booed the team, Katie. They expect
Speaker 2: so much out of us, They pay the harder money,
Speaker 2: and they deserve to react how they want.
Speaker 3: To react.
Speaker 2: It's on enough players to use it as fuel and
Speaker 2: hopefully it ignites us for the next game. I've never
Speaker 2: been swept the day of my life, said Bradley Beal,
Speaker 2: who's caored a team by twenty eight points. I'll be
Speaker 2: damned if that happens.
Speaker 3: What you think? I like it. I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it from Brad.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 1: I like what. Talking is one thing, but being able
Speaker 1: to go out there and execute it is a whole another.
Speaker 1: And there's a young fellow out there in Minnesota, a
Speaker 1: man name ant Man who ain't playing no games. He not,
Speaker 1: he ain't playing no games. The night thirty eight points.
Speaker 1: Shoot hell, and in the clutch time you know, talk
Speaker 1: about you talk about closing out the game. He had
Speaker 1: eighteen and the fourth nine boys, five assists, eleven for
Speaker 1: eleven from the free throw line. Yes, man, he ain't
Speaker 1: coming to play. He ain't going to play, and he
Speaker 1: means business. You saw you saw what he was doing, right, Yeah, he.
Speaker 3: Was doing a number on them, That's what he was doing.
Speaker 3: Hold on, I'm trying to find.
Speaker 1: Out you know, you know what that means. I'm not
Speaker 1: allowed to say on here, but it's not I'm working
Speaker 1: on a cursion. But man, man, it's a real deal.
Speaker 3: Man that work. Oh he given them work for sure.
Speaker 1: You down three to zero. Listen. I don't know what
Speaker 1: more Kevin Durant could do. I don't know what more
Speaker 1: Booker can do. I don't know more what more brand
Speaker 1: bial can do. And when you look at it, when
Speaker 1: I look at it, I think of the Minnesota Timberwolves
Speaker 1: as a two headed monster and man and cat. And
Speaker 1: when I look at the Suns on paper, to me.
Speaker 3: It's supposed to be a three headed monster.
Speaker 1: They I mean the hell they are. And when I
Speaker 1: think about the series, let's say you didn't know basketball,
Speaker 1: but you just look at you look at the rosters,
Speaker 1: and the first thing you're gonna say is, well, I
Speaker 1: would say, even though my basketball knowledge is nowhere near
Speaker 1: like yours, are some of the people in the chat
Speaker 1: that enjoy it. I would say, Oh, yeah, the son's
Speaker 1: gonna win. This Son's gonna win this win this series
Speaker 1: just based off the names on paper in general, and hell, you.
Speaker 2: Know, you know what's happened to know, Joe, they were
Speaker 2: minus twenty seven on the rebounding. They got our rebounding
Speaker 2: fifty to twenty three. There was minus ten on offensive rebounding.
Speaker 2: They gave up fifteen. They got five of their own,
Speaker 2: so what they but see the size. And when I
Speaker 2: tell people, I was like, oh man, you know, I said,
Speaker 2: but at some point in time, they're gonna miss KD.
Speaker 2: I don't care how great your shooters are. At some
Speaker 2: point in time, you got to stop somebody. At some
Speaker 2: point in time, you gotta grab a rebound once the
Speaker 2: opposing team misses. If you force a misshot and you
Speaker 2: don't secure the rebound, you haven't actually done anything. The
Speaker 2: possession does not end until you grab the rebound. As
Speaker 2: long as they get the rebound, you ever done anything?
Speaker 2: You forced the misshot?
Speaker 1: Okay, and that's crazy, man, man, most thirty point playoff
Speaker 1: games and Wolve's history was seven. Well actually he's only
Speaker 1: played oh yes, seven. Kevin Kevin Garnay has seven as well.
Speaker 1: But and it's played thirty three fewer games, you know,
Speaker 1: god Lee, So this series is open and basically, what
Speaker 1: do the sun you need to do to get back
Speaker 1: in the series? Do even have a.
Speaker 2: Chance rebound rebound because but see they add a disadvance,
Speaker 2: because think about it, you got seven to go beart,
Speaker 2: You got seven foot cat.
Speaker 1: God Dan well cat seven foot Yeah, dude like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah cat, yes.
Speaker 2: Man, And you got nav you got nas Reed coming
Speaker 2: off the bench. He's probably sixteen.
Speaker 1: So you might as well just chalk it up for
Speaker 1: the Sun. So obviously, if the Suns get swept like this,
Speaker 1: are they blowing up the team or.
Speaker 2: How you gonna blow it up? Think about what you
Speaker 2: gave up to get Kevin Durant. You gave up Michael Bridges,
Speaker 2: you gave up Cam Johnson, you gave up a lot
Speaker 2: of your pieces and all basically all your first round picks.
Speaker 1: So what Bill Howe right, you have no choice but
Speaker 1: to run it back.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I don't know. I mean where is KD?
Speaker 2: Where does KD want to go? I mean I was
Speaker 2: so I thought he wanted to go there. I'm sure
Speaker 2: he did.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: God, they hit him a solid and put him in
Speaker 2: a place where he could win. He had Chris Paul
Speaker 2: last year, that book. Last year, they had Aton and
Speaker 2: they didn't get it done. So I'm just trying to
Speaker 2: figure out where can he Where can they shipping that
Speaker 2: they're gonna get value, because you're never gonna get the value.
Speaker 3: You're never gonna get the value for one of those.
Speaker 1: Guys, right, not not that kind, No, no, not that
Speaker 1: but I mean, if any if they want to ship
Speaker 1: him somewhere and they can use Amazon Prime, bring them
Speaker 1: on down to Miami, Come on down to Miami.
Speaker 3: You know what they gonna want.
Speaker 2: They're gonna say, give us Bam, give us Jimmy Butler
Speaker 2: and Tyler Hero.
Speaker 1: Oh, come on, man, he can't get you. The can't
Speaker 1: get the whole goddamn house.
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, So what you want? What you want me
Speaker 2: to take? You want me to take Kevin Love.
Speaker 1: You definitely can't take the hard and soul that Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 3: Okay, well you can't take the hard and soul.
Speaker 1: Okay, But I'm that's just that's just that's just me in.
Speaker 3: Case I want it. I don't want it. Whatever you
Speaker 3: got off, I don't want it.
Speaker 2: Give me Jimmy Butler, give me Bam, give me Tyler Hero.
Speaker 3: I'll give you Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2: That ain't happening because guess what. The Sons have zero
Speaker 2: playoff wins this season. They got zero first round picks
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five through twenty thirty. They got zero second
Speaker 2: round picks from twenty twenty four to twenty thirty.
Speaker 3: So what are they going to trade?
Speaker 2: Let mess your question, Yes, sir, like the old lady
Speaker 2: say in my hometown, what you want me to get
Speaker 2: it with?
Speaker 3: Ask the mouth? Come on, man, what what did?
Speaker 2: What do they have to offer back? And then tye
Speaker 2: somebody to say, Okay, yeah, yeah, we won't that.
Speaker 1: That's tough, man, especially with what they had to give
Speaker 1: up four KD you would expect, you would expect more. Hey,
Speaker 1: they made it to the playoffs, but they got there
Speaker 1: and haven't won of these games. And then you run
Speaker 1: into a jigger, a juggernaut. They're young and hungry of
Speaker 1: a young animal. Young hungry animals by the name of
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards ain't playing no games at all.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing.
Speaker 2: In order for you to get Kevin Durant, I mean,
Speaker 2: if Kevin Durant wants to leave, you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: give You're gonna have to give up because in return, I.
Speaker 3: Want some draft capital.
Speaker 2: But I also want players right now that can help
Speaker 2: me win.
Speaker 3: I can't just take you.
Speaker 2: I just can't take draft picks. Oh Joe, I need
Speaker 2: some player. I need players right They got to think
Speaker 2: about it. This is their team for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 3: They got no draft picks. None.
Speaker 2: They got one second round pick this year. After that,
Speaker 2: they got no draft picks until twenty thirty. Mm hm,
Speaker 2: So I don't know what what what can you offer?
Speaker 3: Now? I gotta k I got you ain't got no
Speaker 3: draft picks.
Speaker 2: So now, if you want Kevin Durant, somebody that gives
Speaker 2: they're gonna want. Okay, you want KD. I want two
Speaker 2: or three of your best players, and I'm gonna need
Speaker 2: some first round picks because.
Speaker 3: That's what they gave up two or three two or three? Ash?
Speaker 2: What did what did Phoenix give up to get Kevin Durant?
Speaker 2: I know they we know. We know they gave up
Speaker 2: Michael Bridges. We know they gave up we know they
Speaker 2: gave up Cameron Johnson. We know they gave up substantial
Speaker 2: damn near all the draft picks. I mean, if they
Speaker 2: don't turn this thing around, this might be the biggest
Speaker 2: mistake since Aesop gave his kingdom away for a horse.
Speaker 1: But you know this is the first year, though, right, it's.
Speaker 3: The second year.
Speaker 1: Ah shit?
Speaker 2: I mean, how long y'all think? How long you? I mean,
Speaker 2: you make it seem like Katie twenty five.
Speaker 1: No, I know, I'm I'm thinking it's their first year altogether.
Speaker 3: So I was, uh, KD came at the trade deadline
Speaker 3: last year. Him book was already.
Speaker 1: There, Okay, So I was trying to say the chemistry,
Speaker 1: maybe the chemistry of playing together and understanding each other,
Speaker 1: it isn't where it should be yet, KD.
Speaker 2: This is what they gave up to get KD. They
Speaker 2: gave up Michail Bridges, Cam Johnson, J. Crowder and four
Speaker 2: four unprotected future first round.
Speaker 3: Picks four four.
Speaker 1: But you know what, you know what. You can't even
Speaker 1: you can't even say, you can't even talk shit, damn
Speaker 1: cursing already got dogget. You can't even say anything bad
Speaker 1: because this is KD. Were talking about one of the
Speaker 1: most prolific scores in the history of the game. Yes,
Speaker 1: so you understand why they gave up, Yes, I mean
Speaker 1: why they gave up what they did. Yes, and just
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate from a business standpoint on why it didn't work.
Speaker 1: The only way you know what, you know, you know
Speaker 1: what you get as a player though.
Speaker 2: Yes, but the only way you can pay it off
Speaker 2: they gotta win a championship because if they don't win
Speaker 2: a championship, they're crippled for the next for the next
Speaker 2: five years. I'll telling crippled because you have no assets.
Speaker 2: What can you trade? You gonna trade book? You gonna
Speaker 2: trade bill? I mean you're not gonna trade book Bill.
Speaker 2: You might be able to trade bill. M What did
Speaker 2: they give up? What did they give up to get Bill?
Speaker 2: They had to give up something to get Bill.
Speaker 3: Who is.
Speaker 1: Sons ownership? Who's who's Who's whose owner of the son?
Speaker 3: You know, you know Sar ended up selling that. I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know the guy off the top of my head. Oh, Joe,
Speaker 2: it's on the new ownership for sure.
Speaker 1: See you see, you see what with whoever the new owner,
Speaker 1: whoever the owner is for the Sons, it's what you
Speaker 1: call going all in. That's going all in.
Speaker 2: These guys don't normally come become available, and so when
Speaker 2: they do become available enemy And I think people understand.
Speaker 2: I don't think, uh, people are upset that the son
Speaker 2: made this move. Nine times out of ten, most teams
Speaker 2: make this move. Matt Ishba. Matt Ishba. He was on
Speaker 2: the Michigan State team that won the national championship. Okay,
Speaker 2: so he was on that team, Matt Ishba and I
Speaker 2: get it. I get I get why he did it.
Speaker 2: You're getting KD. You're paying him with Bradley Bill too,
Speaker 2: offensive Juggernauts. But for whatever reason, o Jo, it hasn't
Speaker 2: worked out. And the only way to pay this thing off,
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to win a championship.
Speaker 3: Right man.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Next next year might be the year. Next year might
Speaker 1: be the year.
Speaker 3: So think about this.
Speaker 2: At one point in time, the Sons picked up Bradley
Speaker 2: Bell for Chris Paul Landry Shaman for future first round
Speaker 2: pick swap and six future second round picks.
Speaker 3: So that's what they gave up to get Chris Paul. Damn,
Speaker 3: I mean to get up Bradley.
Speaker 1: Beal if you Bradley Bradley like that too, now.
Speaker 3: Man, man, you got your damn mind.
Speaker 2: Ain't no way in hell I'm giving up four future
Speaker 2: first round picks and six pick swaps and six future
Speaker 2: second round picks for Bradley Bill.
Speaker 1: Then Bradley Bill is like that.
Speaker 3: He liked that. I like Bill, But think about what
Speaker 3: you just said, Oh Joe, they have no picks, no picks.
Speaker 3: I give you that, Okay.
Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Bengals have no first to second round picks
Speaker 2: until let's see twenty five, six, twenty nine, until twenty
Speaker 2: twenty nine.
Speaker 3: How are you feeling about that?
Speaker 1: Yes, away, hold on, hold on now, they stay with me,
Speaker 1: now with our current roster, Yes, I'm feeling good, especially offensively,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing.
Speaker 2: It's even worse because in basketball you only have two rounds,
Speaker 2: so they got no picks. So now what I'm gonna do,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do you one better. The Bengals got no
Speaker 2: picks for the next five years. You could even with
Speaker 2: your current roster.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't like that. We're gonna We're gonna need
Speaker 1: to improve in certain areas exactly, thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay, they can't improve because in order for you to improve,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to either trade Bill, Kevin Durant or
Speaker 2: or or Book.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Book ain't going though, God damn well mm hmmm. Well, honestly,
Speaker 1: you really can't afford afford to lose any any of
Speaker 1: them right now.
Speaker 2: And you but here's the thing. Now, Kevin Durant, we
Speaker 2: know Kevin Durant to move. Kevin Durant ain't got no
Speaker 2: problem Kevin Durant got frequent fly miles. He left O
Speaker 2: K Seed to go to Golden State. He left Golden
Speaker 2: State to go to Brooklyn. He left Brooklyn to go
Speaker 2: to Phoenix. So we know he ain't got no problem
Speaker 2: being on the movie. Kevin Durant is so journal right, So.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what the sons are
Speaker 3: gonna do.
Speaker 1: There a.
Speaker 3: They're a hard place on Joe. They caught there between.
Speaker 1: A pool.
Speaker 3: At a part. I don't know which why I got
Speaker 3: to do what you got to do one another, but
Speaker 3: I might mess myself on Joe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but either way you go both of them stink.
Speaker 3: See see now now you get it? Now, you getting it?
Speaker 2: Now, you understand what that gave up to put this
Speaker 2: roster as we see it together. And now because it's
Speaker 2: not paying out and you, I think you're gonna probably
Speaker 2: see less and less guys because it's not having to
Speaker 2: the immediate ramification and teams are going to be more
Speaker 2: less and less likely to want to give up future.
Speaker 2: And I get it that commodity, but like man, this
Speaker 2: could seriously handicap us. The team that's in the best
Speaker 2: position is okay, see m M because they got like
Speaker 2: eight nine first round picks, they got like thirteen second
Speaker 2: round picks, and they got the youngest roster.
Speaker 3: Right, they got the Now they got the artillery to
Speaker 3: go get to Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, that'll be that'll be nice.
Speaker 2: Question is that Kevin Durant want to go back to
Speaker 2: OKC because they got the artillery, they got the draft,
Speaker 2: they got the draft compensation. Now you're not getting Shay,
Speaker 2: you're not getting Chat and you're not getting Jay Williams.
Speaker 3: Now the other on you anybody else you won't and
Speaker 3: figure you on five first round huh.
Speaker 1: Hey, that'll be a good one though, Shy Chat and
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant and j will Yeah, for sure, that's nasty.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, who's the big? Who's the big? And okay,
Speaker 1: see chat chet hunger who had the fire? Be too
Speaker 1: little to be the fire?
Speaker 3: Strong?
Speaker 2: But they ain't got no, that's that's what they got.
Speaker 2: That's what they play. He's a stretch five.
Speaker 3: Man. Everybody ain't joeling be not damn I know.
Speaker 1: But he ain't got no weight on him. Oh, he's
Speaker 1: just straight up and down.
Speaker 3: Now with the way the game is played. Now, he's fine,
Speaker 3: he's fine. He ain't gonna be down there because ain't
Speaker 3: really no banging.
Speaker 1: He ain't banging down there. Okay, you're right, you're right right.
Speaker 1: The game is Shane. The game is Shane is a
Speaker 1: shooting game. Now, you're right, bad and like he ain't
Speaker 1: got to deal with no shock or nothing.
Speaker 3: No hell noah and joying.
Speaker 2: Look you try every time Joel and B get the
Speaker 2: ball and you come get it out of his hand
Speaker 2: because you know he ain't gonna do nothing with Joel
Speaker 2: and B. Right, Yeah, that's like a mosquite on the
Speaker 2: elephant and he just oh, Jeorge time by first segment.
Speaker 1: Yes good.
Speaker 2: Kirk cousins position as the Atlanta Falcons starting quarterback of
Speaker 2: the for the foreseeable future has not changed after the
Speaker 2: team stunning first round draft selection of Michael Pennix Junior.
Speaker 2: According to the new head coach Raheem Morris, Falcons selecting
Speaker 2: Penix Junior with the eighth overall pick on Thursday night,
Speaker 2: The choice set shock waves across the NFL, since Atlanta
Speaker 2: had just signed Cousin to a frigid deal last month.
Speaker 2: Four year contract worked up that one hundred and eighty million,
Speaker 2: with one hundred million of that guaranteed at the Falcons
Speaker 2: post draft media availability Saturday, Marris milped it any kind
Speaker 2: of quarterback controversy. We came up with a decision. This
Speaker 2: is what we planned to do. And Kurt does not
Speaker 2: have to look over his shoulder every time he throws
Speaker 2: a bad pass like that's a lot. That's not the case. No,
Speaker 2: he ain't got to do that. But them fans gonna.
Speaker 1: Boom, that's a lie. You know, you know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: You already know what's gonna happen. Anytime you draft the quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's how you already know what's going to happen. I
Speaker 1: said it. Everybody told me I was wrong. Obviously you
Speaker 1: didn't like the logs behind it. Night I explained exactly
Speaker 1: what it was. He's coming off of injury. His tenure
Speaker 1: there is not going to be that long, maybe one
Speaker 1: or two years, and passing the torch on to Michael
Speaker 1: Penning Jr. That's exactly what it is. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's excuse me. I don't want to say it's
Speaker 1: common sense because it might not be common to certain
Speaker 1: people because they still are confused by the logic of
Speaker 1: the pick. And I'm telling you what they're doing. Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins is great. He's great. He's always great in the
Speaker 1: regular season, in the regular season. So we we want
Speaker 1: we want some of that. We want some of that
Speaker 1: regular season magic. And see what we can do. See
Speaker 1: if you can get to the playoffs with what we
Speaker 1: have here. You got Drake London, you got b John Robinson,
Speaker 1: you got Kyle Pitts and a very very nice supporting
Speaker 1: cast that you that you can work with. Right, let's
Speaker 1: see what we can do. You got a year, maybe two,
Speaker 1: and the torch is going to pass on the Michael
Speaker 1: Pennon Jr. Now, if you play, if you play bad
Speaker 1: this season and the fans become unsettled, no matter what
Speaker 1: mister Raheem Mars says. I respect him to death, but
Speaker 1: you will be replaced. You will be replaced, and they
Speaker 1: will they will. They will throw brother brother Pennix to
Speaker 1: the sharks. That's what I call it when a rookie start,
Speaker 1: I call it throwing them to the sharks. But you
Speaker 1: better know how to swim.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, uh, I don't know the record of
Speaker 2: russ right now. Got the record eighty five million. Can
Speaker 2: you imagine sign a quarterback to that kind of deal
Speaker 2: and cutting them after one.
Speaker 3: Year because even if you trade it, that's still dead
Speaker 3: money in your cap.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be it's gonna be very very interesting.
Speaker 2: I think had had you know what Ojo had they
Speaker 2: not paid Let's just say they gave a two year deal.
Speaker 2: Let's just say they gave a two year beat deal, yes, sir,
Speaker 2: or a three year deal, because you want to pro
Speaker 2: rate it out, and it was somewhere around ninety million.
Speaker 2: But the fact that they went four years at one
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty and they gave fifty at the time
Speaker 2: of signing, and they're still gonna got another fifty to
Speaker 2: give him.
Speaker 3: That's why people scratchingate, like with Dane.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, just listen again, we understand the
Speaker 1: quarterback situation across the league in general. In general, there
Speaker 1: are many, many teams, many teams that don't have quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So they had the jump at the opportunity for a
Speaker 1: quarterback that is phenomenal offensively in the regular season, because
Speaker 1: if you look at what he's done in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: most people were like, well, what the hell did you
Speaker 1: do that for? I tell you, well, look at what
Speaker 1: he does during the season. That's why they did it.
Speaker 1: Not only did they do it, you had to overpay
Speaker 1: for it because where the market is based on his
Speaker 1: resume throughout the past, even though he had no playoff
Speaker 1: with well, yeah, he doesn't have a playoff one, right,
Speaker 1: I think he got one. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: but there's really no.
Speaker 3: Joe, Yes, sir, what kind of what kind of called
Speaker 3: rail guy? Uh?
Speaker 1: Maybok and a GLS SLS five hundred whatever the hell?
Speaker 2: Okay, Reil got it. Reil got a Maybok, real goals.
Speaker 2: Reil goals out and buys another Maybop and pays two
Speaker 2: million dollars for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you go like, damn baby, that's that's no.
Speaker 2: Let's say a.
Speaker 3: Used Maybop what is like five years old? She pays
Speaker 3: two million for.
Speaker 2: It, right, and then next month she goes out and
Speaker 2: buys another mayboll What you're gonna say.
Speaker 1: Why are you paying that kind of money for a
Speaker 1: depreciating asset?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 2: See, that's what people are saying. Kirk Cousins in his
Speaker 2: mid thirties coming out from Achilles injury, and it's not
Speaker 2: like you getting Tom Brady a guy or Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 2: even ift' that's the top.
Speaker 3: But let's just say he's.
Speaker 2: Gonna they're getting someone that has five.
Speaker 3: Six playoff wins.
Speaker 2: Okay, people might say, but okay, but damn, they're like,
Speaker 2: hold on home, y'all paying this man like he Mahome,
Speaker 2: y'all paying this.
Speaker 3: Man like he Burrowed, like he Payton Manning of Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: You know it's funny. He's not Brady Burrow or or Manning.
Speaker 1: But look at his regular season numbers. Oh yeah, look
Speaker 1: at his regular seet numbers. You're gonna be like, what
Speaker 1: the you know what? And that's where he's able to
Speaker 1: command and warrant the money that he got from the
Speaker 1: Falcons even with no playoff success.
Speaker 3: But see what do you see what you said? Now?
Speaker 2: Dak put up them same kind of the same kind
Speaker 2: of regular season numbers, and they kill it. Lamar Jackson
Speaker 2: win m VPS. He don't win in the postseason, they
Speaker 2: kill it. You see what you just said about Kirk Cousins, Yes, sir,
Speaker 2: he ain't never had the regular season like Lamar.
Speaker 1: And Paul Lamar.
Speaker 3: He can't win.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousin ain'ven thought about going to a Championship game.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. But it's funny with the media. I'm obviously
Speaker 1: fans too as well. Why is Dak and Lamar? Why
Speaker 1: is Dak and Lamar held at a different standard when
Speaker 1: it comes to playoff success as opposed to Kirk docthor.
Speaker 3: You know why he would have stopped playing? We got,
Speaker 3: we got.
Speaker 2: We even got to answer that, Okay, okay, I'm just
Speaker 2: curious they complaining about the money they gave Dik and
Speaker 2: talking about well he got for me.
Speaker 3: I look at a loss as a loss.
Speaker 2: I mean, whether you lose by one or you lose
Speaker 2: by Yeah, Dak hadn't played his last playoff game. They
Speaker 2: lost what twice to San Francisco, and they lost to
Speaker 2: and they lost in the fashion in which they lost,
Speaker 2: especially against Green Bay. But y'all, y'all make it seem
Speaker 2: like Kirk Cousin going to the NFC Championship game. He
Speaker 2: has not, right, he has not. Yeah, So at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, expect expectations should be the same.
Speaker 2: When I pay a guy that kind of money I've
Speaker 2: expected him to get, I'm expecting the results to come
Speaker 2: along with that. Because what you said is absolutely true,
Speaker 2: and that's the problem with all the quarterbacks. But I
Speaker 2: mentioned Lamar, Dak and Kirk and Cousins. In the regular season,
Speaker 2: we see the numbers that they put up, but we
Speaker 2: did see Lamar Goo getting that three hundred yard passing
Speaker 2: game in one hundred yard rush game. We just see
Speaker 2: Dak throw for four hundred until it was late in
Speaker 2: the ball game because at the start of the fourth
Speaker 2: quarter he had seventy three yards. And we see cousins them,
Speaker 2: So that's why people be on them. They're like, bro,
Speaker 2: I just saw you throw for four hundred yards.
Speaker 3: I just saw you do this. I saw you do that.
Speaker 3: Where where is where is that Cousin? Where is that Lamar?
Speaker 3: Where is that Dak?
Speaker 2: Right Whereas we've seen the homes throw for four hundred yards?
Speaker 2: But says, you know what, this isn't the type of
Speaker 2: game that I'm gonna throw for four hundred and then
Speaker 2: go boom boom, boom boom throws for one throws for
Speaker 2: one eight ninety with three four touchdowns. The thing is
Speaker 2: is that the really great quarterbacks understand early in the
Speaker 2: game what the game is going to call for. This
Speaker 2: game is gonna call for me to be a game manager.
Speaker 2: Ojoe I can't turn the ball over, and I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna have goudy numbers that they look at. Mahomes his
Speaker 2: last two, last two players, last two super Bowls he hed.
Speaker 2: But this one went in the overtime, so he had
Speaker 2: a little bit more. But if h Gobain look at
Speaker 2: the game against the Eagles, he had less than twenty yards,
Speaker 2: but every possession in the fourth in the second half, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown,
Speaker 2: he'll goal, we win, we win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's bastly that's what they expect from you.
Speaker 1: You know what that was right? That was he was
Speaker 1: a game manager. He was a game manager.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: For some reason that that word, that phrase, that analogy
Speaker 1: is taking connotation is frowned upon by the quarterbacks when
Speaker 1: it's really not a bad thing.
Speaker 2: The greatest game manager has been Tom Brady. Because Tom
Speaker 2: Brady within within a couple of series, can he understands
Speaker 2: what type of game he needs to play in order
Speaker 2: to win. Yeah, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: to out gun okay, Oh man, these defenses, Oh no,
Speaker 2: we cannot turn the ball over.
Speaker 3: No, no skip scooping scores nothing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You got to pick and choose when to be a
Speaker 1: gun Slinger and when to be a game manager.
Speaker 2: Ke On Coleman's presser goes viral two point oh hell,
Speaker 2: have a hell of a press conference for the Buffalo Bill.
Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to a key On Coleman's presser.
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Speaker 5: Man? You forgotten what the score in Michigan for two years?
Speaker 5: Guess why I got this wrong though? Yeah, I know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. You got a guess You're gonna be
Speaker 5: wrong though, But guess na misis? What do you mean?
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Speaker 6: I take it up personally. I might go get some
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Speaker 6: like my mom. I get my coat in the summertime.
Speaker 6: Come on, now, you got to shop to season a
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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? Who is starting with oh
Speaker 5: we can go my bad hood up this.
Speaker 6: All right? Bro, I'm ja making Sean who we ain't
Speaker 6: trying to set him up? Who who we got going first?
Speaker 3: Hey, he's just he's just been talking with three minutes
Speaker 3: about this thing on.
Speaker 2: Hey listen, I like him, I love I love that's
Speaker 2: by guy.
Speaker 1: His energy, his aura obviously uppear and that started at home. Yes,
Speaker 1: that discipline. He's sitting there talking about everybody laughing and joking.
Speaker 1: He he well you're coming. You just came to the NFL,
Speaker 1: You just got drafted, and you already got it up here,
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to spending your money. So if
Speaker 1: you already like that, if you already financial the conscience
Speaker 1: like that. But we ain't got to worry about him
Speaker 1: now if you take that same energy that we just
Speaker 1: saw in that press conference and you implement it on
Speaker 1: the field and be the same dog I'm used to
Speaker 1: seeing the FSU man shoot game over man.
Speaker 2: He can be special because he because you hear the
Speaker 2: way you talk, So that means advertisers and sponsors love
Speaker 2: to get behind him.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he got the personality, he got charisma. You see.
Speaker 3: The thing that I like about him is the thing that.
Speaker 3: A lot of athletes make mistakes, O Joe. You know
Speaker 3: what they do? What's that They spend money they haven't
Speaker 3: received yet. Come on, talk now, and that's where you're
Speaker 3: running to the problem. Come on, talk now. Am I
Speaker 3: spending what I don't even have? But I'm gonna get it?
Speaker 1: But you don't have it because you gotta borrow it.
Speaker 1: So guess when you borrow it, you guess what you
Speaker 1: got to do. You got to pay it back.
Speaker 2: You're gonna pay back some money with interest when you
Speaker 2: could just wait and you ain't gotta pay for no interest.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: You see that. People don't understand. Well, you know the
Speaker 3: interest rate. So what's your interest rate? Interest rates? Seven
Speaker 3: eight percent?
Speaker 1: So I got a question. You know, most of the
Speaker 1: time your agent give you, your agent give you a loan.
Speaker 1: Right now, you got to give you back to your agent.
Speaker 1: So you think the agent charges interests as well or
Speaker 1: whatever they give you, they just allow you to pay
Speaker 1: just that back. I'm just curious how do you think
Speaker 1: that worked.
Speaker 3: I've never take you out a loan. I took that
Speaker 3: a loan from my brother.
Speaker 1: So I mean, before I'm about I'm talking about before
Speaker 1: you get drafted down the agent, know the agent, and
Speaker 1: know where you're going.
Speaker 3: And yeah, they probably go.
Speaker 2: They probably go. They're probably going to a bank. They
Speaker 2: probably going to a bank and getting and getting a
Speaker 2: loan against future earners. So yeah, hell yeah, I'm assuming.
Speaker 2: Now I could be wrong, O Joe, but I'm assuming
Speaker 2: he's going to get a line of credit. Mm hmm, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I got you, I got I don't think. I don't
Speaker 2: think he wait and got a line of credit because
Speaker 2: he told you. You get where I got this from?
Speaker 2: And they got him in a bunch of colors too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, got got his head on right and start that
Speaker 1: started home. That that's from mama, that's from mom my, Mom,
Speaker 1: and old boy. That's that's all. That's all parenting right there.
Speaker 1: The discipline is overad there. But I know you're gonna
Speaker 1: see this even though you got your head on right.
Speaker 1: But you put in too much work. You put in
Speaker 1: too much work to get to this point in your life.
Speaker 1: You gotta treat yourself. You gotta treat yourself what you
Speaker 1: wanted to get. Oh, it's on him, it's on him.
Speaker 1: You gotta think that's it's been a childhood dream of
Speaker 1: his to get to this point in life for one
Speaker 1: to be able to take care of yourself. Most importantly,
Speaker 1: take care all the people that made the sacrifice to
Speaker 1: make sure you got to this point, Mom, dad, whoever
Speaker 1: else that is immediate family, It might be coaches who know.
Speaker 1: I don't know his personal circle. But you have to
Speaker 1: treat yourself for finally making it for all the hard work.
Speaker 1: You got to take care of yourself. But sure, I
Speaker 1: ain't even worried about you, because just listen to your talk.
Speaker 1: You got your head on right, but you got to
Speaker 1: You got to treat yourself to something nice, man, something
Speaker 1: you've alids dreamed of and then didn't take a back
Speaker 1: seat and playball. That's it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I had a FOURD little blazer with closed seats that
Speaker 2: was taking care of myself because we ain't never had
Speaker 2: anything better than that.
Speaker 3: So that was good. You know, my brother guy, I graduated,
Speaker 3: Why did not not that that year? I got it.
Speaker 2: I got a Rolex the year after my first year
Speaker 2: because I went back to Savannah State and got my degree,
Speaker 2: and my brother got me got me a roly with
Speaker 2: the Jubilee bracelet. Uh band, So uh yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: I bet I just love him. I just love his kid,
Speaker 2: and I love his I love his mindset, I love
Speaker 2: how he thinks. You know, I remember a lot of
Speaker 2: guys that came in my draft. Oh Joe, right, I mean, bro,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna seventh round, you sixth rounder.
Speaker 3: You ain't made that much more money than.
Speaker 2: Me, and you getting path finders, and you getting a
Speaker 2: Cherokee grand You remember the Cherito Creek. They used to
Speaker 2: have a limited Cherokee. So the black one had black rims,
Speaker 2: the red with that red rims, the white hair.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell is he doing?
Speaker 3: We had a dude that was a free agent. He
Speaker 3: went and got one.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Did he make did he make the team?
Speaker 2: He was on practice squad. Okay, so his whole his
Speaker 2: whole check. Oh, practice squad wasn't making money like him
Speaker 2: now he got on there. That was nineteen ninety. Things
Speaker 2: a little different back then. Hell yeah, if I was
Speaker 2: making sixty three, ain't nowhere in hell he was. He
Speaker 2: probably making half.
Speaker 1: That mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, and then you got where you're gonna stay.
Speaker 2: Yeah that you gotta have a you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: my my apartment back then was fined five fifty mm
Speaker 2: hmmm dank five fifty two bedrooms.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now you now you see why I slept at
Speaker 1: the stadium in my first two years. I want to
Speaker 1: spending Now, I wasn't spending none of that.
Speaker 3: D Dan Ree will will have at you, but they
Speaker 3: would never know you there.
Speaker 1: I was in the players lounge. Player lounge had everything
Speaker 1: you know. You know, it's plus you know this two thousand.
Speaker 2: And First of all, how you gonna be there? Because
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know how your coaches did it,
Speaker 2: but I coached you. Wasn't leaving them coaching, leaving ten
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock at night. Coaches don't walk through the locker
Speaker 2: room though. I remember my first year, first year I
Speaker 2: had Dick lee Bow. Dick Labo was cool. Dick Lebow
Speaker 2: might be one of.
Speaker 1: The coolest coaches Everick Bow was walking through the locker room.
Speaker 1: Martin Lewis second year, he was cool. Just met him,
Speaker 1: you know, Boom. Nobody had any idea.
Speaker 3: They always knew. I was the first one.
Speaker 1: They practiced at that stadium every morning.
Speaker 3: Ojo. But you have to understand, back then they had
Speaker 3: expanded the man.
Speaker 2: Look here, bro back then, when I played the player line,
Speaker 2: you might can get ten people in there, and the
Speaker 2: players lounge was where you actually ate that was.
Speaker 3: That was the players lounge. It was I mean, guy
Speaker 3: really signed the locker. Yeah, it wasn't like it is now.
Speaker 1: Oh joey oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Our play as lounge was nice, big TV, cable box,
Speaker 1: pinball machine, arcade machine. Uh. There was a PlayStation. It
Speaker 1: was a PlayStation in two thousand and one that I
Speaker 1: forgot what PlayStation was out. Somebody had a PlayStation up there.
Speaker 3: You had everything, so all.
Speaker 1: The amenities, says, if I'm living at home, is there cafeteria? Shower?
Speaker 1: What the hell am I going to rent a place
Speaker 1: where the rookie with everything I need right here?
Speaker 2: There was no cafeteria. They brought the food in every
Speaker 2: single day. Huh yeah, they brought the food in every
Speaker 2: single day. And name, y'all ain't have a cafeteria.
Speaker 3: No, hell no, my my not my first.
Speaker 1: Hell no, we had no.
Speaker 3: We didn't have no cafeteria the whole while I was there.
Speaker 1: Wait, how did y'all eat? They brought it in, Oh
Speaker 1: like cater They catered the food y'all. Yes, okay, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I honest.
Speaker 3: And at the end. They take all that out there,
Speaker 3: so you've been home rhythm mofo oh Joe.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Guys, now get breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Speaker 2: They got everything you piscatar a. I don't eat fish.
Speaker 2: I like salmon, I like try.
Speaker 3: I like see.
Speaker 1: They got it everything.
Speaker 2: They need to get such and such, need to get
Speaker 2: eighteen great, you know needs these get more protein. Blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. They making the shakes for you. They could
Speaker 2: get Hey, could I get a can? I get two omeles.
Speaker 2: Let me get a little cheese, Let me get some bacon,
Speaker 2: Let me get some mushroom.
Speaker 3: They doing that right there, Oh for you.
Speaker 1: They got everything. Listen, nah that that that the inside
Speaker 1: of that bangles locker room now and amnities that they
Speaker 1: have shake machines, all the healthy stuff, all the red
Speaker 1: all of it's crazy. It's bananas. It's bananas. And obviously
Speaker 1: I didn't we had a nutrition iss back then when
Speaker 1: I was playing. I ain't no disrespect. I ain't paid
Speaker 1: them no mind because you already know what I was eating.
Speaker 1: I ain't pay them to mind. Hell, ke Man, did
Speaker 1: you see that on Twitter today? You see what his
Speaker 1: diet is yeah, clip and listen. No, no, he ain't listen.
Speaker 1: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If it ain't broken,
Speaker 1: if it saying like pooping the cop, if it's not broke,
Speaker 1: pooking the cour eight McDonald's all season long, look at
Speaker 1: the type of season you had. Don't go out there
Speaker 1: and listen to Cooper Cup. And I mean that all
Speaker 1: with all due respect to the triple crown winner. If
Speaker 1: it's not broke, don't fix it. I can't if if
Speaker 1: keon Coleman's play is equivalent to that press conference and
Speaker 1: that confidence he has, young bull Bey top top ten
Speaker 1: easily within his second year. All it has to do
Speaker 1: is if if it matches up, if the talking to
Speaker 1: play matches up on Sunday, and look who the quarterback is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know you know the ball coming. Guys,
Speaker 2: y'all are coming. They looking at guys today and they
Speaker 2: look at all that money. You do realize that when
Speaker 2: I got in the league, there was no free agency,
Speaker 2: so there was not guys got I mean a million
Speaker 2: dollars was as ton of money. You gotta realize what
Speaker 2: some of these guys are making in a year. The
Speaker 2: owners bought their franchise for what these guys make in
Speaker 2: a year.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm broh.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I know ninety seemed like a long
Speaker 2: time ago, but everybody didn't have kitchens.
Speaker 3: Everybody catered, you had the food brought in. There was
Speaker 3: nothing like now.
Speaker 2: Uh now Baltimore what uh my last year in Baltimore,
Speaker 2: I think my last year they had they were prepared,
Speaker 2: you know have you know you want scramble egg, you
Speaker 2: know you want egg, you want arms and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But it was simple stuff. It's not like it is now.
Speaker 3: The way it is now. You literally everybody can go
Speaker 3: order whatever they want mm hm.
Speaker 2: Pancakes, French told whatever, they got, waffle makers, they got
Speaker 2: whatever you want.
Speaker 3: Whatever you we go to a restaurant and or look
Speaker 3: at the menu and order.
Speaker 2: They have it at these facility, well a lot of these,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say all, but a lot of these facilities.
Speaker 3: I know they have it at the Broncos. Now, I
Speaker 3: know the.
Speaker 2: Ravens have it, But it wasn't like it. It wasn't
Speaker 2: then like it is now. And so that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's why people athletes are getting better. They get better knowledge,
Speaker 2: they got better nutrition, they got better training. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, So you should improve. That's called evolution,
Speaker 2: that's called advancement.
Speaker 3: It's not a knocking.
Speaker 2: I'm not begrudging them because guess what, guys in the
Speaker 2: seventies had it better than guys in the sixties, and
Speaker 2: the guys in the eighties had it better than guys
Speaker 2: in the.
Speaker 3: Sixties and the seventies and so forth, and sold. So eventually,
Speaker 3: that's that's what you get.
Speaker 1: Keep getting better.
Speaker 3: Look at the basket, but look at the basketball guys.
Speaker 2: Look how great these guys are playing a lot later
Speaker 2: in their career, not just Lebron.
Speaker 3: Look at Steph Curry. Look at Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant number are better post a chilly surgery then
Speaker 2: they were prior. Yeah, that's signings, that's medicine, that's technology.
Speaker 2: Guys know how to eat, they know how to train.
Speaker 2: They getting that hyperbaric chamber, they get their blood measure.
Speaker 2: You eat specifically for your Hey, it's a science. When
Speaker 2: they say you, what's the guy name for the Raiders,
Speaker 2: the left headquarterback. I can't think of his name off
Speaker 2: the top of my head. But his dad he didn't
Speaker 2: never had a big mac his dad trained him. Now
Speaker 2: they got these guys. Now, oh Tom Marinovich that was
Speaker 2: his name, Oh from usc Yes, yeah, he came out
Speaker 2: of You have to be todm y rinderviitch hey. But
Speaker 2: now on chow these guys, what do they have on yoe?
Speaker 2: You ain't know nobody on your team that got a
Speaker 2: personal chef?
Speaker 3: Did you.
Speaker 1: Back then?
Speaker 3: I bet you four five guys per team not got
Speaker 3: personal chefs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, added expense to me, I consider it to be unnecessary.
Speaker 1: But whatever works for you and you you you feel
Speaker 1: that you need to do, I'm all for it.
Speaker 2: I'm all for it. But here's the thing. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put a studio in my home. People say
Speaker 2: that's an added expense.
Speaker 3: No, it's not.
Speaker 2: Nightcare pays bills. Your body is what pays them bills.
Speaker 2: Your body is what helps you make that money. So
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get somebody. Because here's the thing. That is
Speaker 2: what I always tell people by eating out that restaurant
Speaker 2: is cooking for a thousand people. My chef cooking for
Speaker 2: one exact amount of protein, the exact amount of carbohydrates, everything, sodium,
Speaker 2: everything to the tea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what McDonald's did for me, whatever took care
Speaker 1: of me from the tea. McDonald's doted my eyes and
Speaker 1: crossed my t's, which is why I was who I was.
Speaker 3: I liked it.